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PTCG/O General : Meme Deck Edition

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Old: >>31272492

New? Check the pastebin for advice on starting the game, client information, a guide on the various theme decks/products you can redeem in-game and more.
>http://pastebin.com/gPEnw6GW

You can also check this FAQ:
>http://i.imgur.com/HoY1IaG.jpg

How to progress in PTCGO, tl;dr edition:
>complete all Trainer Challenges (Cheat Engine's speedhack strongly recommended to speed up AI games)
>play through using Basic decks to unlock them for versus play
>farm Versus Mode theme ladder for Tokens and Tournament Tickets
>Enter Theme format tournaments whenever possible
>enter Standard/Expanded ticket tournaments and accept that you'll lose
>you'll get tradable tournament chests and sometimes tradable packs
>DON'T OPEN THEM
>Instead, trade them for the cards you actually want for a deck you want to build, most cards go for like 1-3 packs each.
>Public trade is like the GTS, if you want proper results, put up your own offers.
>if you don't know what deck you want to build yet, see http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/tcg-competitive-play.156/ or check out tournament results for a list of viable decks http://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pokemon/state-province-championships-2016/decks/week-four/

To see what your PTCGO stuff is worth, look on the PTCGO forums in the trading section. Top Cut & other big trading companies will typically overprice cards, expect to get lower
>http://forums.pokemontcg.com/forum/33-in-game-item-exchange/

Tips for Code Giveaways:
>Post them as an image with the QR code covered. Don't just post it as plain text because of bots lurking threads

>Your Old Cards
No one wants them

TotT: Share meme decks
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OP here. Stall & mill Trev deck:

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

##Pokémon - 8

* 4 Trevenant-EX PRC 145
* 2 Trubbish BKP 56
* 2 Garbodor BKP 57

##Trainer Cards - 45

* 4 Professor Sycamore STS 114
* 1 Delinquent BKP 98
* 3 Pokémon Catcher BKP 105
* 1 Parallel City BKT 145
* 3 Ultra Ball DEX 102
* 2 Faded Town AOR 73
* 1 Heavy Ball BKT 140
* 1 Team Flare Grunt XY 129
* 2 Floral Crown GEN 126
* 3 Crushing Hammer GEN 60
* 1 Super Rod NVI 95
* 4 Puzzle of Time BKP 109
* 4 N NVI 92
* 2 Float Stone PLF 99
* 2 Team Rocket's Handiwork FAC 124
* 2 Lysandre FLF 104
* 1 Enhanced Hammer PHF 94
* 1 Max Potion BKP 103
* 4 VS Seeker PHF 109
* 3 Trainers' Mail AOR 100

##Energy - 7

* 7 Grass Energy Energy 1

Total Cards - 60

****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******
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>>31331943
Seems like that deck is easily countered by a Pokemon Ranger. Also I get what you're trying to do, but Houndoom/Bunnelby just does it better.

TotT: I've been trying to run that Full Retaliation Gyarados deck but I can never seem to get it set up. Lost pretty hard last time I tried it at LCS but I managed to beat my son's Yveltal deck so ???
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>>31332167
agreed with this post

use houndoom or bunnelby for a guaranteed 2 card discard, or u can do durant for 4 cards
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>>31332167
Was it your wife's son?
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I've been playing Snorlax GX/Xerneas BREAK online a lot lately. Oddly enough, the toughest opponent for the deck isn't even Garbodor locking out Hypno, but Raikou/Electrode. I think I've only won once against it when even Mega Mewtwo is pretty much 50/50.
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Here's all the codes I have:
Boundaries Crossed 1
Next Destinies 12
Plasma Storm 12
Plasma Freeze 15
Legendary Treasures 1
XY Base 2
XY Flashfire 1
XY Furious Fists 4
XY Phantom Forces 5
XY Primal Clash 11
XY Roaring Skies 17
XY Ancient Origins 10
XY BREAKThrough 17
XY BREAKPoint 19
XY Fates Collide 19
XY Steam Siege 14
XY Evolutions 63
Season 1 Rustboro Gym Challenge
Box Sets
Hoopa Collection
Tyrantrum EX Box
Gallade EX Box
Kyogre EX Tin 2
Mega Absol Box
Mythical Mew Box
Mythical Celebi Box
Mythical Meloetta Box
Hoopa EX Tin 2
Volcanion/Magearna Treasure Tin
Alola Collection Sun
Alola Collection Moon
Snorlax GX Box
Mega Salamence EX Box 2
Mega Garchomp EX Box
ETB Charizard
ETB Blastoise
ETB Roaring Skies 2

Trying to sell all of these in one lot;price me, because I want to know what happened to rates.
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>>31333146
do it yourself you lazy nigger
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>>31333146
Sell them individually fàm, you can get more money that way, you'll never get a good price when you sell bulk
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>>31333146
>XY Evolutions 63
you must really love trash
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>>31332167
>>31332677
we're not trying to win, we're trying to meme.
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>be me
>really want a Magearna tin
>saw one the other day while walking by
>go in
>none left
>really want to buy a tin anyway
>2 Machamp EX tins next to each other
>stand there for 10 minutes thinking about which one to choose
>finally decide for the one on the left
>pay
>"good luck with the pulls"
>go home
>4 non holo rares

That's why I buy cards online, at least you can't blame yourself for choosing the wrong one
Also, the tin had a "Full Machamp TCG online deck" code inside. So I guess I'll start playing some online TCG now.
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>Buy "gears of fire" theme deck at walmart
>try farming theme deck versus games
>3 opponents in a row concede when my starting 'mon is volcanion
whats the dealerino here
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>tfw 70 Evolutions codes
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>>31336264
pull anything nice?
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>>31336264
Enjoy nostalgic junk famalam
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>>31336892
>>31337114
I'm not that big into online TCG, but I don't want to waste them. For what real life price would 70 codes go? If it's more than 20 I'll sell them, if not I'll use them for myself.
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jfc
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>>31335905
Yeah, it's even worse when you're making "content" and you don't get any good pulls on camera. Bought a Steam Siege elite trainer box and got jack squat. $40 down the drain.

Speaking of...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx0kJ3ZoX6M
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>>31337148
You can sell them online for about a quarter or so each, I think
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>>31337200

13 minutes ain't shit
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>>31331938
****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

##Pokémon - 17

* 2 Shaymin-EX ROS 77
* 3 Sceptile-EX AOR 7
* 3 M Sceptile-EX AOR 8
* 2 Spinarak AOR 5
* 2 Ariados AOR 6
* 1 Mew-EX LTR 139
* 2 Staryu BKP 25
* 2 Starmie EVO 31

##Trainer Cards - 35

* 1 Delinquent BKP 98
* 3 Trainers' Mail ROS 92
* 3 Sceptile Spirit Link AOR 80
* 1 Giovanni's Scheme BKT 138
* 1 Skyla BKP 122
* 1 Professor's Letter BKT 146
* 1 Super Rod BKT 149
* 2 Lysandre AOR 78
* 4 Professor Sycamore BKP 107
* 1 Shrine of Memories PRC 139
* 2 Forest of Giant Plants AOR 74
* 2 Level Ball AOR 76
* 3 N NVI 101
* 2 Float Stone BKT 137
* 4 Ultra Ball FAC 113
* 4 VS Seeker PHF 109

##Energy - 8

* 8 Grass Energy EVO 91

Total Cards - 60

****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******

If they can't OHKO you, you can endlessly heal your Mega Sceptiles by retreating and attaching energies with Jagger Sabber. Starmie EVO fetches them from the discard so you can keep going. Just take the L vs Volcanion though.

Also feels good to autowin vs frogs.
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>>31336207

It's a tournament-tier Theme deck, no one is going to deal with that bullshit in Versus.
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>>31331938

I lately mixed mega mewtwo y with typhlosion and talonflame

you just need to start with talonflame
set up your energies any fire ex pokemon
use nina boyz and evolve mewtwo into mega mewtwo y, the typhlosion there is just a support for quicker clean up
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>>31337449
Kek, watching people pull garbage always makes me feel a little better about myself

At least I prevented some kid from choosing the box I did and getting disappointed
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Snorlax GX x2
Drowzee x2
Hypno x2
Remoraid (BT 32) x2
Octillery (BT 33) x2
Xerneas x3
Xerneas BREAK x2

15 Pokemon

Fighting Fury Belt (BP 99) x2
Max Elixir (BP 102) x2
Energy Switch (Gen 61) x2
Super Rod (BT 149) x2
Crushing Hammer (Gen 60) x1
Enhanced Hammer x1
Team Flare Grunt (Gen 73) x1
Fairy Garden x3
Wally x2
Skyla x1
N x2
Lysandre (AO 78) x2
Professor Sycamore (DP 107) x3
Ultra Ball (FC 113) x4
VS Seeker x4

32 Trainers

Double Colorless Energy x4
Fairy Energy x9

13 energy
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>>31337449
Are you the adult or the child?

And why don't you move the three rear cards to the front so that your final card that you display is the rarest?
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>bite the bullet and buy 4 Shaymin off ebay
>2 weeks later
>roaring skies gets a reprint

kill me senpai
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>>31340918
what' the going rate atm? $35?
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>>31341071
Seem to still be going for $40+.
Bought mine at $55, $55, $49 and $72 for a FA.

If you give it a month when the reprint gets distributed you'll see the price go down I'm sure.
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>>31341312
Jesus that's loads
I wouldn't have bother getting the FA because I don't think it looks that great
Maybe that's just because I don't like the sky forme design
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>>31341389
I've got this thing where I want at least 1 FA of a card if its available.
What kind kills me is that I've got 8 months worth of standard to have fun with him.
TCG is a money hole.
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>>31340918

We're in this together anon.
I bought a play-set of FA for 64 each and though I got such a deal.
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>>31341535

What kind of decks are you looking to build, anon?
I've got a Despair Ray M Gard, M Gyarados, M Scizor, M Blastoise, M Venasaur and Volcanion deck in the works.
Maybe even a Brilliant Arrow M Gard.
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I have some ideas for new cards, tell me what you think about theme and what you'll like to do with them if they were real (Also if they're too broken, too shit, etc), thanks a bunch :)

Minior GX (Fighting) 200HP

Ability: Shield Down
This pokemon cannot have a special condition if there's less than 10 damage counters on it.

(Fight)x3 (Inco)x1 Meteor Tackle 90+
This attack does 60 more damage if there's at least 10 damage counter on this Pokemon,

(Fight) x2 (Inco)x3 GX Sparkling Starrain 120+
This attack does 100 more damage if there's at least 10 damage counter on this pokemon. Recover all health on this pokemon

Retreat (Inco)x2
Weakness (Grass)

cont
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>>31341829
>(inco)
Hostia tio el Madrid gana lel liga.
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Shuckle (Grass) 80HP

Ability: Solid Shell
All attacks on this Pokemon will do 30 less damage (before applying weakness and resistance)

(Grass)x2 Berry Explosion 30x
This attack does 30 damage times the number of (Grass) energy attached to this Pokemon. Heals 10HP each two (Grass) energies,

Retreat (C)x4
Weakness (Fire)
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>>31341874
Incolore, im french sorry
I meant Colorless
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>>31341619

The first deck I copied was Despair Ray M Gardevoir. Very fun and waifumon to boot. I then bought into the M Mewtwo / Garboder deck and bought some extras to play the fairy variant as well since I had some fairy tech from the Gardevoir deck.

I really wanna try Yveltal or Volcanion but I want to hold off buying more singles till Sun and Moon drops.
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Ladyba (Grass) 40HP

(C)x1 4 Punches 10x
Flip 4 coins, this attack does 10 damage for each heads.

Retreat: (C)x2
Weakness: (Fire)


Ledian (Grass) 70 HP

(Grass)x1 6 Star Strikes 20x
Flip 6 coins, this attack does 20 damage for each heads.

Retreat (C)x2
Weakness (Fire)
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Aether Employees (Trainer-Support)

Switch your Pokemon and heal it 30HP


Terrain Seeds (Trainer-Tool)

This Pokemon gets -20 damage taken and +20HP if there's a Stadium in play

Ride Pager (Trainer)

Discard an energy and search for any Pokemon in your deck

Aether Paradise (Trainer-Stadium)

Pokemon cannot be forced to switch from the oppenent.
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This is it for now I need some sleeps, please r8 and h8
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>>31341829
>>31341898
>>31342060
>>31342176
You need to work on the wording, the foreign language is showing badly.

Aether Employee is just Olympia? Ride Pager seems OP. Ledyba/Ledian is meh. Shuckle to heal for every two energies is just weird and out of sync with everything else in the game.

Paradise seems not broken but umm.. unenforcable? Like what are you stopping here - ropes, Lysandre, the works? It's interesting at least but probably would create some too powerful strategys and toxic gamestyles.

I do like the other two. Terrain Seeds sounds neat as a kind of updated Charm, and the over/under Minior damage counters is a nice concept and seems well balanced too. You might have to OHKO it, but since it's a GX attack it's a once-off. I like it a lot.
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Anyone proficient with PSA grading? want to know if a card i got is worth sending in. If its going to get a fucking 4 or something i wont bother
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What were they thinking?
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>>31343728
Let's fuck up some peoples wallets.
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>>31343728
"lets make uxie cost fuckloads"
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I'm confused. Steam Up says it applies before weakness/resistance. So shouldn't a basic Fire attack that does 10 damage be increased to 40, which is then boosted to 80 if the target has a x2 weakness?
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>>31343849
Yeah, you did that right. When it says before applying weakness and resistance you add up the Base damage and all damage multipliers like steam up first. Then X2 for weakness.
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>>31344050
I wonder why I only did 70 damage on TCGO then.
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*snores to KO*
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What's popping /tcg/bros? Some things to keep in mind right now for the online players:

>VS Ladder restarts today
Get the rewards you're the closest to reach! Also what FA would you want to be the final reward for the upcoming ladder?
>New bundle in shop
See pic related. I bought it for the sleeves and the coin, they're pretty neato imo.
>Triumphant still in the Legacy Tournament rotation.
Will stay there 'till next Monday, spend your coins while it's worth it!
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>>31347812
>Also what FA would you want to be the final reward for the upcoming ladder?

Colress, Juniper, or Maxie.

Maybe Team Rocket's handiwork, but I'd probably never use it, or see it very often.
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>>31347812
I got my last reward from tier 2. I could probably get the first one in tier 3 if I played for several hours and got lucky but I'm not going to bother at this point.
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>>31347812
Do they say anywhere when vs. rewards reset? I literally started a couple of days ago...
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>>31349125
VS Ladder has a countdown above the bar showing your progress.
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>>31344356

What attack did you use and what was the defending Pokemon?
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>>31347812
two more wins for 1170 and that will do me. Top prize is shit and 2k points requires having no life outside of playing.
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>>31331938

someone would trade 2 talonflames from this volcanion set and one typhlosion from yx set? :/ I have almost nothing tradable...or I'm stupid I have 15level
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>>31351352
>I have almost nothing tradable...or I'm stupid I have 15level

Once you hit level 16, booster packs you win from daily challenge will become tradable.

In the meantime, enter a tournament using tickets. You will win packs/chests which you can trade. Trade these profitably to get enough packs to trade for the cards you want.
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>>31351970

but tournaments are shit... they are enforcing on us xy-evolutions set...
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>>31352432

You don't have to open the packs. Just use packs to trade for cards you want.

If you can figure out a profitable trading strategy, you can just play a few tournaments and then just use your profits to buy cards.
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[M][C] Shining Arrow: Does 50 damage to 1 of your opponent’s Pokemon. (Don’t apply Weakness and Resistance for Benched Pokemon.)
[M][M][C] Sol Fang: 170 damage. This Pokemon can’t use Sol Fang during your next turn.

>>31343728
ROS is getting rereleased you know
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>>31349517
[C] Righteous Edge: 20 damage. Discard a Special Energy attached to your opponent’s Active Pokemon.
[C][C][C] Berserk: 80+ damage. If your Benched Pokemon have any damage counters on them, this attack does 70 more damage.
[C] Great Revolution GX: Shuffle your hand into your deck, then draw 10 cards. (You can’t use more than 1 GX attack in a game.)
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>>31352671

looks like daddy
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>>31352773

omg...
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Whats the pack value for the 2013 champion sleeves/deck set famalam?
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>>31351246
>he doesnt gent
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>>31353262

PKTC thread says they charge 6 for the sleeves + box + coin, so I'd say 4-5.
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>>31353347
this meta is monotonous enough without trading out rock-paper-scissors for heads or tails for hours on end.
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>they keep releasing sleeves and deckboxes at a rate which perfectly equals my coin collection rate

kind of annoying desu, I kinda want some extra spending coins for when S&M comes out
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>finally tweaked deck to consistency
>brother no longer wants to play

i guess it's time to take it to local league
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>>31354230
I just want primary colors like in worlds
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>>31354230

by the way, anyone knows if they are going to fix RNG for the prizes? I'm tired of getting nothing for winning my duels...
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>>31354775

the rng is fine, it's the system itself that sucks
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>have a RS pack
>think for about 30sec whether or not I should open it or save it to trade
>fuck it I'll open it
>pic related
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First for make item lock great again
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>>31355052
cheers senpai
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>my landorus exs plummeting in value

fug
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>>31356921
>Using landorus ex
Lol
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>deck plays like a gigantic piece of shit
>wins 90% of its games
>80% of those wins are through pure stalling
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>>31340918
Hahahaga
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Versus ladder has reset.

>>31357468
only six draw support when decks seem to be going for seven or even eight probably contributes to the sluggishness. I guess Giovanni counts now and again. I would dump one of those Flare grunts for another N.

An extra ball instead of one bike or mail could help too. Level for the early Carbink seems the obvious, but Heavy or Repeat maybe?
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>>31356921
looks like landfill anyway
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>>31356921
>my phanpys plummeting in value
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>>31331938

JTH8880 can someone just trade? I put 26 cards for 3 I need... but I don't want waste coins on packs...maybe I will try these tournaments for prizes... pfffff...I hate packs drops...
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>>31359760

if only we could buy codes for certain cards...
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Who's dick do I have to suck to get Shaymins on PTCGO.
People are asking 100 Packs of Evolutions or 40+ of ROS
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>>31360016
well evolutions is trash
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>>31359760

Are you the guy from >>31352432 here?

Like I said, don't rely on pulling the cards you want. Get hold of some tradable packs and use these to buy the cards you want. You are going to remain frustrated unless you start doing this.

Whether you just play tons of tournaments to win packs, or just get a few packs and use a profitable trading system to make more packs doesn't matter. The point is that people will generally only trade good cards for packs or other good cards. If you open packs, you're almost certain to pull junk that people won't want to trade for.
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>>31360101

I understood that, but maybe someone don't care about these 3 *rollseyes*
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>>31360101

I got 2th place and 2 packs but I cannot offer them for a public trade...
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well stop rambling man and tell us what you want and what you're offering. You need two Talonflame and one Typhlosion right? Going rate is somewhere between one and two packs for each of those, or other cards worth that. So what are you offering? No-one is going to just give you good cards for shit.
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>>31360303
ok I see I must mark them what a mess
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>>31360348

pack or 2+ for 1 of a 2th stage mons where only one is useful for searching... lel
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>>31360379

people are selling their insides for an shitty iphones so...
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>>31360379
that's just what they're worth, supply & demand. Well good luck, I ain't helping you with that attitude. Try reddit.
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>>31360016
Open a lot of packs, I got 2 FA Shaymin after +70 packs
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>>31360426

reddit is just as 4chan full of idiots who are angered on the whole world for no reason, I'll just wait or try later with boosters
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>>31360426

like you ever would... how old you are 10? I doubt it would make him even at least angry
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>>31360437

more important tip is; don't open your packs, just save them until you will get 50 or more because there's a chance that RNG will works with luck for you
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>>31360503
I've given guys in here "welcome to the game" set-up trades full of beginner staples and a few EXs and packs for next to nothing, but they didn't come in like the world owed them something. Not today.
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>>31360652

do you really think I give a shit? really? I'm not a fucking kid...if not you then somebody else...I just want 3-4 stupid cards XDDDD I don't care about retarded EXes
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>>31360557
I was talking about the untradeable packs
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>>31360694

this mement when you made rap song...
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liveliest thread all week
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More of these SM1 cards are dropping over on Pokebeach
--
Altar of the Moone – Trainer
Stadium

All Pokemon (both yours and your opponent’s) with [P] or [D] Energy attached to them have 2 less Retreat Cost.

This card stays in play when you play it. Discard this card if another Stadium card comes into play. If another card with the same name is in play, you can’t play this card.
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>>31360875
>Altar of the Moone
>SM1
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Thinking about going to the SM pre-releases next week.. What's all the good shit to (Hopefully) pull from those pre-releases?
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>>31360875

I wonder when they remove prize cards and will just replace them with badges and make decks 10 cards smaller...because this game is retarded...stupid prizes can ruin your deck
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>>31360948

Gutting out Prizes from the TCG would ruin the TCG and objective/purpose of battles and matches though.
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>>31360948
do you not think that the chance of having an imperfect deck adds a but of skill to the game as you are not just relying on having built an unbeatable deck?

>>31360999
he's suggesting prize tokens instead trippy
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and that fucking ability
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Lurantis – Grass – HP100
Stage 1 – Evolves from Fomantis

Ability: Sunny Day
As long as this Pokemon is in play, each of your [G] and [R] Pokemon do 20 more damage to your opponent’s Active Pokemon.

[G][G][C] Solar Beam: 80 damage.

Weakness: Fire (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2
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>>31361027

Okay. Fill me in.

What's " [R] " and " [G] " is Grass, right?
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>>31361084
R is Fire, because F was already taken.
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>>31361025

I just want play with my strategy and not bother if I will get right prize to win or lose because this game is retarded
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>>31360942
for the promos, anything but Bruxish. Oranguru probably best of the four.
As for the rest, FA Lillie & HR UltraBall will be the money cards, probably the SR Energies too. but plenty more decent shit like most of the GXs but especially Decidueye will be in demand. Lots of good shit though.
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>>31361096

as good as well they could just let us have 20 card prize decks and 40 card main decks
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>>31361124

What's the "HR" in the Ultra Ball stand for? What does it do and what do Lillie and those SR Energies do, also what's the "SR" stand for?
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>>31361027
>Fight Song reprint but for two types
>can be used with Lurantis GX
>can be summoned with Shiinotic

So Lurantis GX's first attack with CB and this guy out swings for 90 for one energy while accelerating two. Mega Beedrill also goes from 40 to 60, which combined with lurantis GX puts a one two punch from 200 to 240. Not bad.

Pretty solid card.
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>>31361096

You could could just run that one Psychic with the Ability that reveals your prizes you know.
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>>31361179

or town map but this is waste of space and it can land into the prizes
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>>31361162
the raritys of cards are Common, Uncommon, Rare, Ultra Rare, and Secret Rare. Secret Rare (SR) card numbers go over the count for the expansion. Like pic related is numbered 110 from a 108 card set.

SM is introducing another level of rarity called HR (not sure yet if that means Hidden Rare or more likely Hyper Rare), but they are even rarer prints of cards you can get in the set already. e.g. there will be three prints of Espeon-GX all in this set, and they all do the exact same thing, but some are rarer than others so will end up being worth more.

Check this page for what all cards in the set do: http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Collection_Sun,_Collection_Moon_leaked_online
you can see the rare prints at very bottom.
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>>31361096
would a town map not help?
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>>31361272
You know, this being gone will fuck hugely with the meta. However, since the first fucking full art secret rare item they did was an unnecessary Ultra Ball reprint, I wouldn't be surprised if we see a FA VS Seeker soon.
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>>31361027
Lurantis might be shit in game but in tcg this is gold
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>>31362156

Not with Garbodor and, come Sun & Moon, Alolan Muk in in the format.
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>>31362216
Alolan muk blocks basics not evolutions
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>>31362339

Well Garbodor is still in the format, so Lurantis will still be shit until it's gone.
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>>31361436
No, we need the experts. this is a job for team rocket.
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>>31361444
Well this is the most consecutive Standard formats it's been included in since the card was made. Either a reprint, a new card that does the same/similar thing or we enter a brave new meta of more careful supporter use.
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>Genting is back on the TCGO because new ladder.

Yecch, I'm starting to wish we could report 'em for collusion.
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>>31363512
What's that? Win trading? How would you even do that in versus?
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outside of the FA, the new vs ladder is lit

get the 2x landorus guys, especially if you ever plan to play in legacy, those are 4 RoS EXes that are the main Pokemons of one of the best deck of the format
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>>31364025
>first or last day or two of current ladder
>play legacy format
>concede if you aren't the one CONTROLLING the coin flip
>if you are, then just wait for your opponent to. Even if they don't.

got up to the second Landorus last night. now i can play legit for the rest of the month. top prize is a shitty FA battle reporter btw.

>>31363512
just avoid Legacy for those two days faggot
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Huh?
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>>31364310
>genting, opponent doesn't concede when my coin is up
>curb stomp their shitpile with my legit legacy deck
>if matched up again, refuse to concede even if their coin is up, and curbstomp every time
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page 10 bump
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>>31364405
Oh!
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>>31365652
my condolences
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>>31365652
>Sammelkartenspiel

Gesundheit.
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>>31365652
hope you pull a dragonite

and.... something else?
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What's the latest or good meme deck that works in standard
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>>31361095
Fighting or Fairy?
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>>31365754
C'mon, it's not THAT bad

>>31365760
Danke!

>>31365793
I'll start opening now, gonna report back when done
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>>31361272
>HoloRare
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>>31362398
>Well Garbodor is still in the format, so Lurantis will still be shit until it's gone.

People said the same thing about Greninja, and even with Garbodor and Giratina it's still one of the best decks in Standard
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Do you guys think Decidueye-GX might be meta?
I think it's pretty good since we still have Forest, as well as things like Lurantis and Vileplume.
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>>31366530
Fighting. The letters were assigned when Base Set was new. Fairy is Y.
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>>31366645
Yes, Evolution is bad for a competitive deck unless the nostalgia drives you to collect them
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>>31367288
Well, I only collect them with my younger brother, so that's alright with me
Those are the ones I really care about. Finally a MCharizard EX which I missed out on in Flashfire, now I can finish with evolutions and move on.
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>>31367393
Open the door, get on the floor
Everybody walk the Bisaflor
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>>31367393
Wow, thats really good, some people get half that in a box
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>>31361272
I play too much Hearthstone and tried to do a comparison to their rarity tier.
C/U > Common
R > Rare
Holorare > Epic
UR > Legendary
FA > Golden Legendary
SR > Not sure, Rare tier perhaps?

Parallel/reverse cards are the "Golden" versions.
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Is there any benefit to leveling past 16 other than cosmetic stuff?
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Just need Fairy Garden to come in, and I think I'm ready to pop my local league cherry
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are there any homebrew formats people play for shits and giggles on TCGO? Kind of bored of standard/expanded after years of the same old shit.

I was thinking about doing something silly along the lines of:

>Expanded
>C/U only
>Max 2 copies of a card (except basic energy)
>Max rarity allowed (ie. FA Lysandre considering Lysandre is an uncommon)

Anyone else homebrew their own rules for TCGO?
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>>31370259
Is that the new meta deck now? It looks like absolute shit tbqh
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>>31340918
I just proxie any money cards
I figure if I ever gay an invite I'll buy them for the tourney and sell them immediately afterwards
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>>31369041
I'd like this answered too
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>>31369041
you got tradeable packs
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>go try genting in legacy
>everyone pretends to be afk when I get the coin but Well Played!s when they get the coin

I just kick all their asses. What fucks.
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>>31373579
>Playing legacy
It's like you want to suffer with all of the meme decks
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>>31373622
You're not supposed to play, you're supposed to surrender if you don't get the opening coin toss to grind points.
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>playing some absolute trash deck
>flip 7 tails in a row on Assist
>finally get heads
>click no on Fliptini reroll
>attack does nothing

Cool fucking coding.
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>>31373622
Who doesnt love memes
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>>31350400
This Klang, and XY Growlithe's Hind Kick.
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Holy fuck the people who play this game are cunts. Kicking the asses of people who refuse to gent and then beg for a gent is so satisfying.
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>>31370871
Ever hear of Gym Leader format?
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>>31373622
The meme decks are fun, though.

Genesect isn't a meme though, it's cancer.
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>>31371816
Way too slow to be the new meta, but probably the only way to be competitive if you want to main Snorlax GX. What improvements do you suggest senpai?
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>>31374080

Agreed. If you're going to gent at least use a Tier 2 deck, not bullshit like Weavile/Eggs or VirGen.
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*heals 9 pages from thread*
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any stream link for Athens?
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>>31374181
Nah i haven't fill me in?
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Tfw no stream
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>>31376890
>Not using full heal
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>be german
>buy Zekrom EX tin off Amazon
>3 days later arrives
>open package
>it's in fucking english despite Amazon description saying otherwise
>open it up anyway
>pull 4 holos and one reverse Zekrom
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>>31377989
Essentially it's like EDH format in Magic.
You choose 6 Pokemon of 1 type and put them all out at the beginning of the game. The rest of the deck is 100 energy, supporters, items, etc.
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>>31374022
Was Reverse Valley in play? It reduces 10 damage after applying weakness and resistance.
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What's the deck to far wins in Standard?
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>>31381727
farm wins*
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defend this
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Why are there so many Gen 4 tins and boosters still laying around but almost nothing from 5th gen?
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>>31381947
only works on genesect-ex and uses more energy than can be replaced each turn
easy
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>>31382003
>gen 4 tins

Where? All I ever see are plasma tins.
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>>31381947

it's not really defensible

it's a singular card that led to a really, really boring standard format and tournament scene where practically nothing competed with it
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>>31382017
>only works on genesect-ex
Not a drawback
>and uses more energy than can be replaced each turn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3y3QoFnqZc
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>>31382022
Each time I visit one of the more Walmart- kind store in my area they still have tons of gen 4 stuff laying around. No idea why. Granted, mostly only the starter ones, Lucario and 2 other non legendaries.
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With which key do I into game chat
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>>31382200
Click your own face
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>>31373579
that shit only works day 1 and final day on the ladder. The rest of the month players be playing.
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>>31382200
>expecting keyboard shortcuts
>these devs
>actively removing/just fucking losing, mouse & trackpad gestures by the patch
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>>31342776
Its a little late but thanks for the review of my work, I'll share more of my inventions later
Also Ride Pager was a mistake, you need to discard an Energy Card FROM YOUR HAND, sorry
I'll note that Terrain Seeds and Minior GX are goods, thanks again
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I built an ok dark/fighting mega tyranitar deck, just improved it with the Phanpy and Donphan from versus ladder. Does anyone have a tyranitar spirit link or two they could trade to me?
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>>31361096
we should really just have 60 card hands as well
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>>31385455
Really if you have the better deck its unfair for your opponent not to let you win
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should i sell my cards to trollandtoad. got a bunch of base fossil and gym challenge 1st editions.
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>>31386742
if they are worth selling at all, they are worth selling on ebay.
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So when does gen 7 cards get released?
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>>31389377
February 3rd
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>>31389436
Nice. Any previews anywhere?
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>>31389478
Bulbapedia has the card list, and I'm p sure that pre-releases are next week.
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In Rainbow Road, do the hilarious double-ultra ball tricks make Dragonite worth running over Kingdra?
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>>31381947
There are a lot of cards that are indefensible from the entire BW era, this included.
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>>31379869
Does it have a semiofficial ban list as EDH did before WotC picked it up?
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This game is pretty boring when you start facing all the meta decks, isn't it?
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Who top 32 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Name a stronger card than this, you literally cannot.
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I NEVER WIN EVENTS DAMN IT
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I bet you fucks are glad this guy and his little brother didn't get a reprint in evolutions
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What's the value of the mewtwo x elite sleeves, also bump
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Friendly reminder to start checking Valentine's sections at your local Targets in case they release the SM pack binders early like they did for Primal Clash.
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>>31396772
I don't expect target to do the same mistake twice famalam, but it's good to know
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>>31397518
I don't think it's really that worth it unless you want the booster packs
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>>31397658
good call
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>>31397518
whats this worth on the client? prices are cray rn
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>>31399029
Idk, you could try to offer maybe 2/3 packs
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>choice band

I've waited half a year. I can finally play Seaking again.
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>>31399269
Anything anti-ex with choice band sounds good famalam, like regice or garchomp for example
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ME DECK. Hopefully there are some new cards to make this good.
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>>31399419
>All those items
So you're not worried about being item locked yourself?
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>>31399562
Not really sure. It's a pretty typical build. So I'm sure it's fine.
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>>31361027
Literally my moms reprint
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>>31360437

>only 70 packs to open two of them

I'm on 130 and got only one.
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>>31399269
LOL
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What's a good meta deck right now? Wanna get back into this TCG, it's fun as fuck.
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So what is the average prerelease like? Considering going to one, but only really for the prerelease kit, I'm not entirely interested in playing while I'm there.
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>Finally get around to getting back into account
>Have to play through shitty tutorial game
>Ugh, glad that's o--
>Another one starts

Holy shit, how many are there?
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>>31403980
I'm also planning to go to a prerelease mainly for codes and a chance for the sr ub 2.0
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>>31403891
I'm kinda in the same position as you, coming back to the game and been looking up top decks last couple of days. from what I've gathered the best decks in standard right now are:

Mega Gardevoir
Yveltal/Garbodor
Volcanion
Mega Mewtwo
Greninja
Darkrai with Giratina-EX and/ or Salamence-EX

There's some other decks too with relatively good results, but these are what I'd consider the top dogs. Pick your poison.
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>>31403980
You show up, pay the $25 or whatever it is, get your kit + packs, and then there's a half hour to open your kit and packs to build a 40 card deck. Energies are supplied by the shop and usually returned. Then, usually after the first round, you get your remaining packs.
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>>31399269
Since they didn't make Choice Band exclusive to non-EX/GX I would expect Volcanion and Yveltal to start running this immediately.
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So I'm bonding with some of my younger family members over the Pokemon TCG. I'd help them create decks, but, I haven't the slightest idea of how to do so. I haven't played the TCG since Fossil so I'm way behind on what's actually good. I'm still missing no retreat Scyther days. So I was going to buy them some themed decks so when they go to the local Pokemon meet up they can play with their own cards. Is there any good theme decks right now I should look for? Any cheap decks I could look into? I know a new format is coming out soon should I just wait for that? If I do wait what theme deck should I pick up? Their favorite Pokemon is Umbreon so I don't know how relevant that is, but, if someone could help me I'd love it.
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>>31404836
No theme deck is good. They're just thrown together out of the set's cards so that literal children to play each other.
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>>31404853
I figured as much, I'm just curious if any are worthy bases to building better decks.
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>>31404865
No. They're all constructed the same. It's better to start from scratch.
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>>31404906
Alright, I'll go look up some budget decks and stuff like that for them then. Thanks for your help Anon.
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>>31404356
I just want some sun and moon stuff early. Only set I've been interested in for a long time.
>>31404630
So you have to play against others? I don't usually like Pokemon fans, I can't imagine what a pre release attracts.
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>>31405373
Yes, you'll have to battle someone, maybe you can let them know and scoop up if you're on a hurry
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>>31399419
That's quite a ballsy move to have that many items. But I do like what you did with the zubat ratio.
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>Get back into my account
>No shaymins, all deck boxes and whatever are gone

Did I get turbocucked by some hacker while I was gone or what?
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>>31407827
Shaymin and Octillery users have bad karma. That's why these things happen.
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>>31407857
t. Poorfag
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>>31408435
The fact that they're busted, there's just nothing interesting about someone drawing through a mountain of cards every single turn.
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>>31404995
The VS Decks seem to be pretty okay. My main deck is actually mainly built from the Mewtwo VS Darkrai decks.

But if you play the two against each other, Mewtwo tends to win because
>X ball
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Should I wait till the new set/meta to build a new deck? I'm coming back from a break

What from the new set looks good?
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>>31408975
It doesn't matter, the new set doesn't change the meta, nothing from it is particularly good.
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>>31404865
You get a few good Trainer Cards from them and it's alright to get energy from, but in general very few theme decks have any Pokémon at all that are competitively viable.
The Keldeo vs Rayquaza Theme Deck is pretty good for getting a lot of viable cards, although both Keldeo and Rayquaza themselves are only allowed in Expanded format, not Standard.
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>>31409121
>although both Keldeo and Rayquaza themselves are only allowed in Expanded format, not Standard.
Also true for the Mewtwo vs Darkrai box.
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>>31409121
>Keldeo vs Rayquaza

What horse-hater convinced Keldeo he had a chance in hell against Rayquaza?
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>>31409167
Keldeo/Blastoise is actually a bit better in terms of consistency than Rayquaza/Eelektrik.
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>>31409216
Yeah, I used Keldeo vs Rayquaza to demo the Pokémon TCG at an event a few months ago and the Keldeo deck seemed far superior then.
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>>31409278
It would've been a fairer fight if they had left the Keldeo deck the way it was back in the BRC days. But instead of Candy+Blastoise line they cheated it and gave it Archie's (probably because putting Trop Beaches in it would've been hilarious) which is a huge consistency buff for the deck.
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Anyone in socal planning to go to a prerelease this weekend, because I don't want to feel like the only one since it's going to be my first time to an irl thing
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How do I learn the trading racket, I need cards for Standard
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>>31410779
Trade trainers or meme spiders for packs
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>>31409604
Which one are you thinking of going to?
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>>31410939
Just any trainers?

>meme spider
Elaborate
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Most expensive deck in standard? Haven't played since a few months before Evolutions. Main deck was M Gardevoir and secondary was M Scizor, are they still alright or has something stupid surfaced?
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>>31411646
Scizor has fallen out of competition because of Volcanion decks. Which is odd since Gardevoir is possibly BDIF now that Dragonite from EVO boosted it so much.

Other than that, Yveltal/Garb, Volcanion, MMewtwo make up the rest of the top tier. Greninja, Rainbow Road, Darktina, mayyyybe Rayqueza make up the Tier below.
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>>31411788
Are we talking Despair Ray Gard? Was using that for a while because discarding my bench was satisfying as fuck, the general denial was glorious. I'll check the Dragonite, surprised to hear the deck has been elevated that much. Doesn't seem like much else has changed though, sad to hear Volcanion is still holding Scizor back, I had fun with that deck too.
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>>31411062
There was a shit storm of some tradefag buying bulk ariados for 1 pack and reselling like 2 ariados for 1 pack each before the meme spider market crashed, this can be used on wanted supporters and items too.

>>31411050
Riverside famalam
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Why is the trading post chat on ptcgo so cancerous?
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Someone opened all the S&M theme decks and yes, they're all abysmal.

Cute coins though.
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>>31411949
It's not all Dragonite, Yveltal/Garb had established itself as being top dog in the feeding chain of Mewtwo < Gardevoir < Scizor < Volcanion < anything/Garb since there was no legit [L] decks around before EVO landed. But then people started teching to face Yveltal, plus Yveltal got diluted as they teched for the mirror, then all of a sudden Gardevoir was top dog.

Here are the last two results, look at that Yveltal to Gardevoir swing. So gardevoir probably won't last, but as of most recent results yes, it's the BDIF right this minute.

Fort Wayne Top 8 (November PRC-STS)
1. Jimmy Pendarvis – Yveltal EX/Garbodor BPT
2. Andrew Mahone – Yveltal EX/Garbodor BPT
3. Chris Derocher – Greninja BREAK
4. Caleb Gedemer – Rainbow Road
5. Clinton Kirkwood – Volcanion EX
6. Ahmed Ali – Volcanion EX
7. Devon Tilson – M Scizor EX/Garbodor BPT
8. Wesley Hollenberg – Zygarde EX/Carbink BREAK

Dallas Top 8 (December PRC-EVO)
1. Xander Pero – M Gardevoir EX STS
2. Igor Costa – M Mewtwo EX/Garbodor BKP
3. Dalen Dockery – M Gardevoir EX STS
4. Connor Finton – M Gardevoir EX STS
5. Jimmy Zhang – Darkrai EX/Giratina EX/Salamence EX
6. Marcos Garcia – Greninja BREAK
7. Noah Sawyer – M Gardevoir EX STS
8. Alex Krekeler – Greninja BREAK/Talonflame STS
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>>31411949
also yes, Despair Ray Gard. Occasionally seen with Ratatta for the tool removal and Hawlucha for the free Lysandre. I think a straight EX deck is most common? Just with Hoopa/Shaymeme/Dragonite in. I guess look at the decks from results above, most should be online by now.

Scizor is a good one to play on the client now anyway, since Gardevoir is fucking everywhere. Plus lots of SE decks. Plus that Xerneas/Snorlax contraption. There's a Scizor/EVO Raticate deck been doing the rounds too if you wanted a new variant of it. Dump their special energies then punish them for that.

idk about taking it to a legit tourney though.
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This is my first time making a deck since Platinum base set, what can I improve on? Thanks.

http://pastebin.com/AHd0FYTF
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>>31414070
>One of each Pokemon except laperas
>3 Pokemon fan club and Pokemon lady
>Using tierno
>Only using 1 energy of grass and fire
>Not using double dragon energies

Please tell me it wasn't deck wizard
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>>31414503
It was not using deck wizard

>One of each Pokemon except laperas
All of those I have one of, the rest of my Pokémon are all super outdated shit.

>3 Pokemon fan club and Pokemon lady
Yeah, I can quickly find 2 Pokémon. Literally fills my bench within just a few turns.

>Using tierno
Drawing cards is nice

>Only using 1 energy of grass and fire
That's all I need and I've been able to get to them pretty easily, since I only have one Ho-Oh EX and the fire energy is optional (however providing a good ability) I think that it's fair to only have one.

>Not using double dragon energies
I don't have any yet
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>>31415021
Bruh you should really farm theme until you have the packs for a decent deck, or just go on ebay and buy like 30 booster pack codes to trade away for cards to build a deck with.
Also Tierno is the worst form of draw support because it doesn't change the fact that you have a dead hand, it just gives you three more cards. Drop them completely and run 3 Sycamores with 2 or 3 Ns.
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>>31415404
What happens when you have a good hand, but you still want more cards, but you also don't want to lose your hand?
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>>31415458

Then that only shows how new you are to the TCG.
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>>31415458
Then you get a deck with Shaymins. Play hand as much as you can then draw until you have 6. Can't afford Shaymins? Make a mono water deck and use octillery.
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Can someone please post a deck list of a standard Yveltal/Garb deck?
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>>31415570
http://www.pokebeach.com/2016/12/addressing-the-bird-in-the-room

PS: Please feed my Zebstrikas
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>>31404836
>>31404853
>>31404865
This was posted on that other site
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>>31416801
>lists Zebstrika but not Vespiquen

???
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>somebody attempts to chat to me
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>>31404853
>>31404865
what that anon said about the Keldeo/Rayq decks is also true for the Mewtwo/Darkai battle arena decks. you can still get it online here and there. Again, a lot of the cards will be Expanded only, but some good staples in.

There is an Umbreon in the new SM set incoming. Not an amazing card but maybe for friendly family matches it could be good. As for waiting for that to drop, you could but, it will be at least two years until the Standard format becomes SM-onwards - theres still going to be a large current pool in addition to SM for the next while.
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>>31417829
>Waiting 2 year for the new rotation

Don't like the current toxic meta?
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>>31417902
The meta isn't toxic.
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>>31412064
>Riverside

Can't help you out there. Sorry bud.
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What booster box should I buy next? Got a Sun/Moon one preordered.
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>>31420161
Roaring Skies is getting a reprint. Breakpoint and Breakthrough have some nice trainers and rares.
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>>31418073
Buying 3/4 shaymemes and putting them in a random deck to make it competitive isn't ""toxic""?
I can't wait until it gets rotated out fàm
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>>31421635
Quit bitching. A bad deck is still bad. If it wasn't Shaymins you'd cry about N.
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>>31421635
Hopefully they've learned what a terrible mistake that card was.
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>>31421777
It's singlehandedly the reason why I can't play irl. Too expensive when I have to buy food etc.
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>Want to get back into the game
>Have a bunch of Mewtwo EX Y and Darkrai and Tina EX
>Recently sold a bunch of Shaymin and SR VS Seekers for high bucks
>Only have non SR VS Seeker left

Can I still win battles if my Deck doesn't have Shaymin?
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>>31421635
You're a dumb cunt.

Toxic:
>X Ball wars
>HTL (literally)
>G Booster
>Quaking Punch
>LTC+Shaymin
>Night March win %

Not toxic:
>people play a card that costs a lot of money

Don't confuse being a poorfag with a meta in disrepair. The only valid criticism about the current meta is that weakness breeds too many autolosses, but that's a fundamental design flaw in the card game. It's also pretty shit they haven't printed a tool removal card but the success of Volcanion and Greninja regardless proves it's not too big of a deal.
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>>31422772
Not until September friendo
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>>31422821
What will the Roaring Skies reprint mean?
>>
>>31422879
That the price of Shaymins will fall and more people will have access to them for 8 months of Standard and a while in Expanded (~2 years?).
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>>31422879
Shaymin EX will be $10 or so cheaper. Same for M Rayquaza dragon.
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>>31422895
>>31422899
But Roaring Skies is confirmed to rotate out of Standard?
>>
>>31422921

Next format is almost sure to be BREAKthrough-on. Keeping RS in standard would mean that only one real set rotates (and double crisis), which is incredibly unlikely.
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>>31422968
Does that mean Octillery will be the next to go after Shaymin?
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>>31423035
I doubt it. Part of why Shaymin was so useful was because it had Sky Return while being colorless. I think decks will either run 4 Sycamore with 4 N, or I wouldn't be surprised if TPCi doesn't create demand for a shitty set by releasing a Shaymin-like basic GX card.
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How much money am I going to invest if I wanna play irl?
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>>31423093

Play IRL? Maybe $40. Compete at a high level? Probably at least $150.
>>
You should be able to look at your prize cards at the start of a game, even if you have to shuffle them afterwards.
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>>31423249
why?
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>>31423289
Because knowing what cards are not in your deck can be important when decision making, and there's really downside that I can think of.
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>>31423307
>Ultra Ball
>Look for what's missing before picking out the pokemon
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>>31423307
there's really no downside*
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>>31423249
It seems like an awfully convoluted rule despite how usefully it may be

And I don't trust anyone to be able to shuffle 6 cards without bias
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>>31423327
It's not convulted. You just look at the cards before shuffling them and putting them face down. Your opponent can shuffle them if they want, just like they can your deck.
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>>31422921
Reprinting Roaring Skies doesn't mean it will magically survive rotation. Just means they're putting it back on shelves.
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>>31423339
Can you shuffle 6 cards without spilling them?
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>>31423441
Yes, it's not exactly hard.
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>>31423462
... i can't
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>>31423249
You can
It's called Ultra Ball
>>
so i want to get into the tgc.

how is meta diversity comepared to YGO/magic? are there like two meta decks or is it a bit more varied?
>>
>>31423519
How do I start the game with Ultra Ball in my hand 100% of the time? Do I get a do-over if the card I wanted to get from my deck isn't there?
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>>31423569
Mate there are multiple cards that let you search the deck, Ultra Ball is just the most ubiquitous, nearly every deck runs a full playset.
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>>31423569
>Do I get a do-over if the card I wanted to get from my deck isn't there?
Obviously not
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>>31423607
I'm aware, but those are imperfect solutions to a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place.
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>>31423633
>imperfect solutions
No matter how eloquently you attempt to put your point across, there's no denying they perfectly allow you to find out what cards are in your deck

Will you complain if your cards are in the wrong order?
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>>31423553
http://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pokemon/pokemon-events/championship-series-event-results/

http://thecharizardlounge.com/tournament-results/
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>>31423716
They 'perfectly' allow you to find out what cards are in your deck on the condition that you draw them and pay costs associated with using them before finding out. You aren't always going to draw them before the information could be relevant, hence why they are imperfect solutions. That's the point, and it has nothing to do with eloquence.
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>>31423784
Play 4 Town Map and 4 Skyla. Or play 4 Here Comes Team Rocket.
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>>31423784
Damn, sure showed me
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NEW THREAD
>>31423924
>>31423924
>>31423924
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>>31420937
Got a Breakpoint delivered today. Got Greninja Break, M Scizor EX, Scizor EX, M Gyarados, FA Gyarados, FA Ho-Oh EX, holo Garb, RA Gyarados EX, and a Luxray Break. Not bad. Not too interested in Roaring Skies, already have a couple of Shaymin EX and nothing else in the set really appeals to me.
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