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Gen 4 or Gen 5?

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Gen 4 or Gen 5?
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Check this 5
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Gen 6.
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The one without shit starters, pokemon, characters, story, villains, and rivals, 4
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>>30893424
So gen 5 then.
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Gen 5 is trash lol
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>>30893430
even gen 5 retards have to admit their starters are shit
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>>30893424
No, Anon, you can't drop them both.
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>>30893408
5
4 was rather slow and I dislike the added evos and prevos.
Gen 5 also had very amusing online (I miss negotiations) and was the first gen to give me motivation to complete my Pokedex, and a reward worth finishing the battle facility.
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>>30893447
But will gen 4 autists admit barry is a shit rival?
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>>30893447
Serperior is my favorite grass starter. Fun to use too.
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>>30893444
Triple 4 confirms
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>>30893447
How does that change the fact that everyone admits the pokemon, characters, story, villains, and rivals were all shit in 4?

Well except for Sinnohfetuses.
Who conveniently forget how shit Barry was in the story.
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>>30893459
>>30893472
nope
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gen 5 was shit and your minuscule fanbase will never change that
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I will now predict the outcome of this thread in a single image.
I prefer 5 I guess, the moving sprites made the formerly static pokemon seem much more "alive" despite the warping.
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>>30893474
>Grass whistle
>He's more annoying than Overly happy hau and retard friendship is magic gen 6 "rivals".
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>>30893489
>doesn't'\ even bother to post his pathetic excuse of "rivals"
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>>30893474
>Who conveniently forget how shit Barry was in the story.
Also, no items.
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>>30893502
Better than Gen 5 """"""""""""rivals"""""""""""""""
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>>30893494
Edge lord was great.
And Bianca was at least cute.
Not to mention their theme made me really happy.
Meanwhile D/P/P soundtrack put me to sleep and is so unremarkable outside mountain pianos.
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>>30893488
Me too.

Surely this thread won't devolve into a minority of autistic retard proclaiming their shitty gen is anything but terrible.
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>>30893507
Hugh's pretty good, what are you talking about
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>>30893507
Who were better than Barry?
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>>30893511
Still terrible rivals and no amount of memeing will convince people that gen 5's OST was anything but mediocre.
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>>30893519
MUH SISTER'S PURRLOIN
I H A V E TO GET MY SISTER'S PURRLOIN
DID I TELL YOU ABOUT MY SISTER'S PURRLOIN YET
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>>30893519
>>30893523
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
FUCKING GEN 5 HANDHOLDING AUTISTS
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>>30893524
>Still terrible
>Barry still exists
Lol, and you can't convince me D/P/P had one good track. You're a cute little sinnohfeatus you know that?
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>>30893514
And you perfectly emulated my image. Thank you, I expected nothing less from /vp/.
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>>30893524
Who needs memes when you can listen to the best pokemon soundtrack?
Hugh's theme is certainly one f the best rival themes as for everything else they radiate the energy you expect from pokemon.
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>>30893541
barry makes gen 5's """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""rivals""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" look god-tier
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>>30893539
Ironically it had less than 4. I mean keeping the secret potion was bad enough.
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>>30893539
>Implying Gen 4 didn't start the handholding
Lmao.
>>30893548
Hahahaha, you're cute when you're memeing.
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>>30893543
You;re welcome for perfectly emulating how much of a failure gen 5 was.
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"forest"

>>30893557
Gen 5 made it part of the gameplay though

fucking cuckold handholding autist
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>>30893558
Just so you know it "failed" because it followed gen 4. Which was widely regarded as the worst gen.
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Gen 5 is fucking shite

only like 14 autists on /vp/ think othersise
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>>30893574
>Not posting pinwheel forest
You cucks can't even meme right.

>>30893585
(you)
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>>30893585
Gen V is the 2nd most loved and 2nd most hated my duder
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>>30893581
You're in denial.

Not only is gen 4 regarded as one of the best gens, but it's also one of the best selling gens.

Gen 5 is regarded as one of the worst gens and IS the WORST selling gen.
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>>30893541
>One of the strongest teams in the franchise
Actually matures over the course of the game
>Isn't a dick but doesn't heal your Pokemon before every fight
Barry is great, you have awful taste
also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGE2hzmz7W0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALbsX5oXHc8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEvuu73sdhc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiCpFkybzeI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0AwE8EjpDs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RRFoVhotwg

Your taste is objectively trash
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>>30893574
>posting lostlorn when we know the entire forest was Zoroark's illusion
>not pinwheel
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>tfw never played gen 5 and only come to these threads for the shitflinging
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>>30893558
I was referring to the autistic screeching, which mindlessly repeating how much you hate (x) gen is. Notice how I have not resorted to posting goldface compilations or claiming a gen was awful with zero reasons to back it up, but simply posted a relaxed answer to the OP. Blindly attacking is not terribly productive.
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who /likes gen 5 buts hates unovafags/ here
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>>30893608
just you
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WHY DID GEN 5 SELL SO BAD, BROS??????????????

SURELY IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE BETTER TASTE THAN EVERYONE ELSE... RIGHT?????????????????
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>>30893594
>Worst selling
>When RSE exists
>>30893598
Barry looks like shit, he has a indie dev scarf, a retartded hair style, and the blotchiest looking shirt I've ever seen. His "growth" doesn't excuse him being an annoying twat half the game asking for 1,000,000$. Fuck off with the "barry is mature" meme.
Also all these songs sound alike.
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>>30893594
>but it's also one of the best selling gens
Yeah no. Selling a paltry 1mil over RS despite being on a system that had no pokemon game and with nearly double the users just goes to show how poorly it did in comparison.

Not to mention GF went into full damage control after they received complaints about the region design and horrid cross gen evos.
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reminder that gen 5 will never get remakes because everyone hates it :)

>inb4 i don't want it to get remakes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

k :)
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>>30893408
Let's see. People despised gen 5 because it introduced Vanillite, Klink, and Trubbish, and had ugly fucking sprites and people despise gen 4 because it introduced awful retcon evos and was slow as balls to the point of idiocy.

No one likes either one, especially on /vp/.
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>>30893634
Reminder that ur mum didn't try for another kid because everyone hated you.
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face it unovatards: people hated gen 5

it's the ONLY gen that people fucking HATED

you are a minority: a black sheep: and ugly duckling of the franchise
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>>30893617
Pretty sure the 3ds was out at the time it came out.
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>>30893456
>I dislike the added evos and prevos.
>I dislike Porygon-Z
>I dislike Mamoswine
>I dislike Weavile
>I dislike Glisgor
>I dislike Togekiss
>I dislike Magnezone
>I dislike Mismagius
>I dislike Honchkrow
>I dislike Froslass
>I dislike Glaceon
>I dislike Leafeon

I dislike your taste
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>>30893649
Gen 4 says hi.
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Just to wade in as handholding is something being brought up a lot as a negative of later games.

Handholding has been a trend throughout basically all AAA developed video games since about 2008. Don't blame pokemon games for the time they came out. Look past the handholding, look at the game as a whole, including all of the post game systems that are put in there for the more, for lack of a better word, "hardcore" pokemon audience that browses /vp/
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gen 5 had a really nice UI, the little extra features like when the music changed on the gym leader's last pokémon were really neat too.
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it's like I'm really on /v/
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>>30893645
this meme doesn't make sense because i'm not even the youngest guy in my family

fucking unovafags
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>>30893649
People hated gen 6 more lol
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gen 4 since that's when we got gen 2 remakes

and gen 5 is not bad it is emo as fuck but it has the best story

all the regions are cool except gor hoenn seriously fuck everything in hoennexcept regirock and his bros they are cool
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>>30893655
gen 5 stands up on its chair and screams """"""""""HIIIIIIIIIIII EVERYONE HATES MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE""""""""""""""""""""
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>>30893651
BW came out a few months before.
2 was like during the first or second year? Which is why it had the dream radar as quickly companion game.
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>>30893624
>Barry looks like shit
Shit opinion
At least he isn't a generic anime character like Charon, Bianca, and Hugh.
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>>30893670
hard truth: everyone outside of /vp/ hates gen 5 and loves gen 4 and 6

sorry m8, you're in the minority
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>>30893664
Don't take it personally anon, this thread is about shitflinging to get it out of our systems. Nobody here is actually serious.
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>>30893671
Again, gen 4 says hi.
The complaints about it are the reason we have eviolite, megas and overly linear games.
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>>30893444
>pass in 2016
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>>30893654
I like Porygon-Z and Magnezone, but I hate the eeveelutions and Togekiss doesn't fix much of what was awful about togetic aside from removing the legs and neck. Froslass and the rest I don't "hate" but they're rather forgettable and didn't really need to exist. They ended up "revitalising" some lines but just made the original even more obscure.
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>>30893678
>Nerd
>Booby lady
>Edge lord
>Generic
You're making me laugh here anon.
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>>30893688
your opinions don't mean shit in the general public

gen 4 is often regarded as one of the best while gen 5 is often regarded as the worst
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>>30893684
>Nobody here is actually serious
I am
The only things of value Gen 5 introduced were Triple Battles, Rotation Battles, ALL of its music and a handful of Pokemon.
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>Any main game
>story

What story is this you are talking about? I dont se3 any.

Go to Mystery Dungeon if you wanna discuss story. Makes me kek when story is part of discussion for a better gen, they're all honestly bland (4 probably the most, but still nothing)
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gen 4 was good

gen 5 was polarizing (love it or hate it) meaning it was a shitty generation of pokemon
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I don't dislike any gen
except for maybe 6

AMA
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>>30893703
Is this sarcasm?
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>>30893408
Never played 5 but honestly 4 just was so washed out and stale it made me take a break until SM.
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>>30893721
Gen 5 is even worse. Be glad you didn't play it.
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>>30893715
can you eat pokebeans without getting fat
is your favorite color green
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>>30893704
>your opinions don't mean shit in the general public
They aren't my opinions. They're the opinions of the fanbase.

You can clearly see the drastic change between 4 and 5 in regards to what I listed. Also people loathed the gen 4 frontier when it was revealed because it again was an element carried over from 3 that was severely downgraded.

Also for some reason this thread is making me want a tuna sandwich.
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>>30893708
And hidden abilities, and unique items, and good online access.
>Using that copypasta list from that one fag on /jp/
Holy shit you can't be serious? Are you baiting me?
>>30893718
I dunno? Is it? Does Barry actually look good to you? Does his color scheme not scream obnoxious?
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>>30893732
no
no
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>>30893414
Gen 4 confirmed superior.
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>>30893727
Yeah I couldn't really care less dude, wasn't planning to since the online is probably dead. Just was adding my 2 cents about gen 4 because it was a crushing letdown after 3.
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>>30893741
goddammit I thought you were daniel
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>>30893740
To be fair Barry was designed to be annoying.
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>>30893753
In all honesty Gen 5 wasn't hit too hard by the loss of online.
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>>30893764
That really aggravates me more. Why did GF think he was a good idea? Other than him Platinum was one of the funnest entries for me.
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>>30893740
>Abilities that are only obtainable through obnoxious means such as chaining 900 Pokemon or whatever the fuck mirage spots were
>Unique items
What? You mean like the Protector, Up-Grade, and Magmarizer?
>and good online access
Platinum had fine online.

>Does his color scheme not scream obnoxious?
It screams "Creamsicle", there is literally nothing wrong with Barry's design. Meanwhile literally every fucking Gen 5 character looks like they're ripped from Kingdom Hearts.
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>>30893769
Ok
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>>30893574
You really are retarded, aren't you?
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>>30893408
4
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Dumb question. I can transfer pogies between BW1 and BW2 right? Im thinking of getting White since I've only played Black 2. Should I bother or nah?
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>>30893753
>Just was adding my 2 cents about gen 4 because it was a crushing letdown after 3.
The best gen was a letdown after the worst gen?
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>>30893777
>Platinum had fine online.
He's referring to the fact that gen 4's online was extremely buggy. Especially when it came to trading.
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>>30893777
Air balloon, assault vest, weakness policy. GEMS.
All of those items came out in gen 4 dumb dumb.
Platinum had SLOW access. But it was better than D/P

Barry is an AD/HD induced monkey man, his trainer animation is retarded, and his design makes me hurl every time I see it.
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Cant every fucker here just be happy about every gen you fat filthy jobless fucks?
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>>30893794
>worst gen
that isn't gen 6
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>>30893794
4 can't be the best, it made the game worse. Even the minigames were affected.
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>>30893802
Gems were 5 but you could find them easily in the overworld.
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>>30893574
"forest"
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>>30893824
I should have said the items he listed came out in 4th gen, the items I listed came out in 5th gen.
I need to word better my posts.
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"volcano"
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>>30893809
>can you autists stop being autists
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>>30893708
If your taste is actually this shit then please go take a walk on the freeway while blindfolded right now.
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>>30893408
We discussed it two days ago already.
Pretty what /vp/ fav gen is.
Numbers dont lie.
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>>30893844
Ah fair enough
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>>30893802
Air Balloon, Assault Vest, and Weakness Policy are not unique by any means. Gems are pretty good though.
Up-Grade came out in Gen 2

>Barry is an AD/HD induced monkey man
He's a hyper kid
>his trainer animation is retarded
He's a hyper kid
>and his design makes me hurl every time I see it.
Again, he's still a trillion times better than ditzy blond, *adjusts glasses* anime nerd, and a poor man's Silver.
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Gen 5=Gen 4 > Gen 7 > Gen 3 > Gen 1 > Gen 2 >Gen 6

Platinum and BW2 are the best games in the series
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>>30893850
Bots and shitposters do however.
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>>30893850
>reddit invasion
YEAH NO fuck off
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>>30893794
Yes it was. I was expecting not much from it and it underdelivered in every aspect. The only thing that was better was it had online, everything else not so much, it also had a strange feeling, idk how to describe it, washed out? Like a thin film of "drabness" was over everything, making it duller and slower? Hence why I dropped the series for a while there.
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>>30893858
Gen 4 > Gen 2 > Gen 7 > Gen 6 > Gen 1 > Gen 5 > Gen 3
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>>30893850
THIS
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>>30893459
Barry's actually my favourite rival. No idea why.
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>>30893863
>>30893866
>bots even though it had a required captcha
>le gen4 reddit meme
Pls
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>>30893874
How can you like gen 4 but not like Gen 5?

Makes no sense. Are you just arguing for the sake of it?
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>>30893874
>gen 6
>not last
opinon discarded
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>>30893867
But what about the fact that the spritework was a trillion times better than in gen 3? And that it reintroduced Day and Night? And the much, MUCH better starters and Pokemon designs? And the first taste of 3D the series got? And the great music? And the fact that 70% of the game wasn't surfing?
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>>30893850
Feels good being so much superior.
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>>30893885
>bots even though it had a required captcha
Yeah because a captcha ever stopped any bots.
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>>30893886
One was great and the other was awful.

>>30893888
>le epic gen 6 was da wurst maymay
This is the most forced meme since Milhouse
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4 hands down
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>>30893856
Right, dubious disc came out in 4th gen.

I was a hyper kid, I actually do have AD/HD But he still annoys the crap out of me, Cheran and Bianca only wanted to journey with you, one leaves half-way and the other had a decent team. And edgelords are the best rivals. Silver, Huge, and Gladion are my faves.
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>>30893850
Reminder Gen 4 only won because of HGSS. Sinnoh sucks.
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>>30893459
Yes he is, but he's not as annoying, and pointlessly easy as Bianca
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>>30893905
Your opinion is pretty bad anon. I have to assume from your comic thing that you are also a /co/ user? That would make alot of sense for your shitty taste.

Anyone with a brain that appreciates gen 4 could also appreciate gen 5 for what it brought and how it revitalized the Pokemon games. Truly a masterpiece and the most complete game.
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>>30893899
Wow look at all that area you can't explore
Its almost like the one on the right was bullshot for trailers from a game that came out when technology was better
But don't worry, the D/P remakes will look mch better than any Gen 5 game
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>>30893850
>120+ votes difference
>gen5 more dislikes than likes
Literally btfo
Too add salt to the wound this is was the only board that used to love bw back in the day when it was even more hated.
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>>30893905
>liking casualized garbage
shit games with a shit remake of a mediocre game. At this point your defending it to be a contrarian
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Gen 5 > Gen 4 > Gen 7 > Gen 2 > Gen 3 > Gen 1 >Gen 6
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>>30893885
Yeah tell me how many bots are posting on 4chan?
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>>30893945
Yeah its pretty obvious that guy is baiting. He hasn't made any arguments.

Its just " WAHH gen 4 is the best and gen 5 is garbage"

Thats all he can say so I think it is safe to assume that he is just arguing to bait other.
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>>30893935
>>30893952
What is posting sprites going to solve?
Is this helping the argument or harming it?
Is there an argument even here? Or are you just posting cause memewar threads?
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>>30893850
Gen4 was always number 1
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>>30893892
You also have to consider the
Rehashed story
Downgraded and casualised bases and contests
Input lag in the underground
Glitchy online
Drop in framerate
Unappealing pokemon designs
Convoluted region
Advertised evos locked until the postgame

Also the surfing segments were longer than they were in RSE because of the abysmal surfing speed and encounter rate.
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Just a reminder that hg/ss were gen 4, some of the best pokemon games ever made
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This>>30893955
Meant for>>30893898
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>>30893874
>Gen 1 over anything when even the shittiest Gens have improvements
>Gen 6 not closer towards the bottom
>Gen 2 that high

wew lad
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>>30893892
Sprites didn't make much difference to me, they just looked like different poses. Day and night are no huge selling point or hatred icon, it's a pretty minor feature I didn't even notice.
I fucking hated the starters, especially the fuck ugly monkey, god I hate monkeys. The Pokemon themselves contributed to the dull feeling especially the strangely pasty, plastic looking ones that couldn't really compare to the ones I saw before, except for the legends, Palkia was cool. The music was forgettable and I missed the water. The 3D models were fucking awful, especially when so much of the game was still sprites so it was an ugly fucking mishmash of both.

Honestly looking back now I can't remember why I played through the whole game, it pissed me off so much after 3.
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>>30893966
Most of this is to start memewar consolewar tier shitpost threads.

Anyone who actually enjoys Pokemon and judges them objectively would like both gen 4 and gen 5. There is no reason to hate one and love the other.

People have been trying to force so many shitty memes here since its a relatively small board. There is some faggot trying to force this diaperbeam stuff in every thread. Literally baby's first forced meme
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>>30893850
Holy shit. missed the votes but damn this is a non contest.
Would have voted for gen4 as well but they dont need it haha.
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>>30893955
You should probably check /b/ once in a while.
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>>30893933
>appreciate gen 5 for what it brought
Gen 5 brought the most linear region yet, the worst starters in the series, the worst pokemon and character designs, the worst metagame in weather wars and genies, one of the worst postgames in the series until PWT came around, the worst graphics in the series after gen 1, cringeworthy story, pathetic """""rivals"""" that heal you before every fight, field medics, bargain bin ripoffs of existing pokemon like Audino and Conkeldurr, the worst villainous team, and probably more shit that I'm forgetting.
Gen 5 was trash and more people agree with this statement than disagree with it.

>>30893945
Gen 6 was easy as fuck and OR/AS were bad because R/S/E were bad. Its still better than the bug-ridden mess that was gen 1, the Fakemon games that were B/W, and the watery hell that was gen 3.
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>>30893962
I like Gen V, but what's your point? The game that came later looks better than the one that came earlier?

You could do the same thing with RBY and SM if you wanted to.
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>>30893998
If you were a true Pokemon fan you could see the positives from each games. You are just trying to force more memewar shitpost threads
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>>30894000
>You should probably check /b/ once in a while
Talking about vp here sweetheart.
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>>30894009
Gen 5 had no positives.
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>>30893996
>There is no reason to hate one and love the other.
Sure there is especially when it comes to 4.
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>>30893850
Why is gen5 hated and loved ?
Seems fucking weird
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>>30894015
Oh so /vp/ and /b/ aren't part of 4chan?
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Can't we just agree that both of them are good?
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>>30894009
>trying to invoke logic in a thread that's a cesspool of people mindlessly screeching about how much they hate Pokemon
Anon you're fighting a losing battle
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>>30894009
I can see the positives from every gen, its just that gens 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, and 7 all have more positives than negatives whereas gen 5 has 1 positive for every 30 negatives
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>>30893424
poke
the game about pockets
literally nothing else
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>>30894035
Sure, all of gen 5 was good and HGSS was good. DPP was trash.
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>>30894035
Sure, all of gen 4 was good and B2W2 was good. BW was trash.
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It feels like I'm in a Devil Survivor thread
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>>30894026
Some people loved that there were no new mon
Some people didn't

Unfortunately the latter thought that carried over to 2 and missed out on a good game.
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>>30894003
> Best sprites
> Biggest Pokedex with a plethora of new Pokemon and abilities
>Best looking overworld
>PWT which alone makes it the best game
>Good battle facilities
> EXP grinding zone
> Hard mode that actually makes good opponents for you post game team.
> Updated non shit back sprites

The only negatives are the starters being ugly and the story, but who the fuck plays Pokemon for story and only Plebs use their starter.

Denying gen 5 was good at all just makes you look stupid anon.

I will admit that gen 4 was also great but denying that gen 5 was great just discredits your opinion because of how ignorant you are being.

Everything that gen 4 did to advance the series gen 5 also built upon and added.
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LEGENDARY WAR GO
>In 4th gen we have
>stupid blue dinosaur
>how is this gay shit a water type?
>The only pokemon weak to both of it's types
>Gay ass not fairies
>My ability cucks any chance at OU
>Secondary suicune
>What is this flaming magma pile of shit?

VS.

>Edgysaurs
>My mom's burning pubic hair
> Ice...thing?
>Flying, frozen, flaming space turkey
>Godzilla's missing electric cousin
>genies (nuff said)
>genies now the 100% more furry dicks
>Ponies
Events don't count this time
START YOUR WAR!
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>>30894038
I just wish people who refused to talk with logic and reason didnt exist. The world would be so much better without these people.

Why are people so dumb?
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>>30893886
>Gen 4 and Gen 5 are the same

Literally the only thing 5 has on 4 is reusable TMs and is otherwise inferior in every way. Region, pokemon, character designs, lore, story, postgame areas, battle facilities, music, rivals, gyms, champion, evil team leaders, even graphics. BW was basically such a step back from Platinum that it's almost unbelievable. B2W2 were better only for the fact that you could finally get non-garbage pokemon and the region was slightly less terrible, but they still only managed to reach the level of 'okay'.

4>7>3>5>6>1>2
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>>30894003
>OR/AS were bad because R/S/E were bad
no it's bad because it's a remake of Ruby and Sapphire with a shitty post game no one liked instead of Emerald, you know the one people actually liked. That's like making a gen 4 remake of the slow piece of shit that was Diamond and Pearl and then lumping on some cringy postgame fetchquest shit
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>>30894074
Probably because they only want to express how much they hate something and blindly shriek it rather than have it be refuted.

Also people love to hate things and hate being argued with.
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>>30894086
Now you know how people felt going into 4 from 3.
Fortunately BW fixed most of its mistakes .
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>>30894061
>> Best sprites
Holy fucking shit my sides
>> Biggest Pokedex
With about 20 good designs
>>Best looking overworld
Both gen 6 and 7 look better.
>>PWT which alone makes it the best game
Nice meme, PWT is fun for a few hours and after that its just another Battle Tower clone.
>>Good battle facilities
Was there even a battle frontier in gen 5? Also movies and musicals were absolute jokes.
>> EXP grinding zone
What? Where? The gen is so forgettable I honestly don't remember.
>> Hard mode that actually makes good opponents for you post game team.
Would have been amazing if you could have unlocked it before beating the game
>> Updated non shit back sprites
Again, holy shit, my sides. Gen 5's sprites are R/B/G level-bad.

I'll even give you another positive in that I forgot about Seasons and its bullshit that they're never coming back
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>>30894086
You are being quite delusional

You are basing you rating on such small details such as rivals, champions, evil team shit. Non of this shit ever mattered in Pokemon

You are refusing to look at the games from a game designers point of view and just basing your opinions and ingame character shit. What matters is the actual game play, graphics, battling, and Pokemon which gen 5 approved upon in every way

Im am leaving this shit thread so dont bother replying to this.
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>>30893651
>came out months before
>advertised to oblivion and back for the months prior to that
>"m-muh 3ds was out"

tapu lel
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>>30894106
DP would have been like that but Platinum and HGSS are better than Emerald and FRLG
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>>30894120
If you didn't even play the games why are you trying to judge them?
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>>30894128
>Platinum
Hoo boy.
You don't know the half of it do you.
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>>30894120
People like you should be disemboweled with a wooden spoon and left bleeding to death in the moonlight.
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>>30894152
poetic.
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>>30894122
>actual game play, graphics, battling, and Pokemon

No, these are all worse, as I also said but you chose to ignore for some reason. From a game design standpoint Platinum is maybe the most finely made game in the series. BW are pretty garbage.
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>People
>are
>taking
>shit
>too
>seriously
>in
>a
>shit
>fling
>ing
>thread
/vp/ never ceases to amuse me. How are you all so stupid and blind to see that every gen introduced something good? I share a board with you memers.
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>>30894161
>All of these are worse
In what way? Mind elaborating?
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>>30894169
DESIGNATED
SHITPOSTING
THREADS
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Have there been fanports of RSE to genIV mechanics?

Because THAT would probably be the best game.
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>>30894169
>every gen introduced something good?

But 5 didn't and that's the point every time it gets bought up
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>>30894120
Moron

You are not being objective at all, You reek of bias for whatever stupid reason.

I play both of these games constantly, they are my favorites. You cannot deny that gen 4 had shitty backsprites

In my play through now I am using Empoleon and Gligar and can't help but notice how bad their backsprites look. So I just looked up their sprites from BW and they are a major improvement

Stop being such a /v/ fag and grow up.
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>>30894159
>Edgy 14 year old likes gen 5
You can embarrass yourself without me, it seems

>>30894130
I fucking wish I didn't play B/W, but alas, I did.
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>>30894169
It's because they want other people to know that what they like is right, and what everyone else likes is wrong. Take toast and bread, for example. Two groups of people like them, and many people like both. However, one side wants to let the other side know that they're superior to them. That's where threads like this started.
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>>30894187
>reusable tms
Are you just going to ignore that? Or are you baitposting my gay nigger?
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>>30894161
That is why you argument is flawed

If you truly like gen 4 then you would also see the strong points of gen 5. There is no reason to like one and hate the other when they are both the highest quality games in the series and very simmilar.

We can only hope the new 3D games will every come as close to the amount of content and completion that gen 4 and 5 had.
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>>30894188
>b-b-bais
Call me when you have a real argument and not strawmen.
The backsprites in Platinum are fine, you have autsim.
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>>30894169
coming from someone who was pretty much a normie who wanted to re-introduce himself to the orld of pokemon at the time...
...gen 4 was unbearably slow, even sitting at my computer desk with an emulator i couldn't keep going
never played gen 5 but im assuming they were also shit
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>>30894194
>>>/co/

Why does /co/ breed the worst of the worst 4chan posters?
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>>30894207
>Liking casualization
hmmmmmm
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>>30894194
impossible to prove im not the same guy, but i can at least confirm you that i think both gen 4 and 5 sucked ass
fugg you.
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>>30894230
GOOD BAIT
HAVE A (you)
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>>30894214
they are fine sure but compared to the updated gen 5 sprites they are greatly inferior.

You are just throwing around buzzwords to force damage control on your own argument. which you basically haven't made. You are just stating you own opinion and ignoring anyone elses arguments on why gen 5 is also great.

GO back to /v/ anon, just leave
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>>30894214
defend this
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>>30894229
>Cartoon reaction images may only be posted on /co/
You
Have
Autism
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>>30894214
>The backsprites in Platinum are fine,
Top kek
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>>30894267
I dont care about your cartoon shit. I care about the content of posts, and the majority of time /co/ posters are the worst of the worst. Childish tumblr manbabies
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>>30893972
>>30893962
>>30893899
>>30893884
>>30893873
>>30893862
>>30893855
>>30893846
>>30893825

So Gen 6 is even better than Gens 1, 2, 4 and 5? That is your argument, it's better just because it looks better.

Eragon looks better than Labyrinth, but I'd rather watch David Bowie as the goblin king than a piece of shit like Eragon ever again. Appearance doesn't equal quality.
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>>30894214
HAHAHAHA retard
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>>30894281
Agreed, This sprite posting is getting us no where. I don't see how it deals with the quality of the games.
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>>30893507
Cheren was a good rival, what are you actually talking about? Just because you dislike a game doesn't mean you have to pretend everything in it is complete shit.
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>>30894293
Why do you have a problem with facts that prove gen 5 has better sprites?

You and me realize this obviously but the retards that are arguing for gen 4 are even refusing to admit the obvious improvements like sprites.

This just proves they a =re arguing for the sake of it not based on facts or objective attributes
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>>30893605
You mean the shit flinging between false flaggers who represent the fanbases like actual semen?
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>>30894293
Good sprites/models are important whether you like it or not. The entire games are about pokemon, if the pokemon look like shit then thats a huge flaw.
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>>30894324
yes
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>>30894331
>Good sprites/models are important whether you like it or not.

Really? Because improved looks are ALL Gen 6 had going for them.
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>>30894323
>>30894331
Platinum had decent sprites for the time, I never really thought or cared about it. It was better than gen 3's with frealigatr butt. Whatever man, it's just a sprite. And for the record, I'm the one who would shill gen 5 up the bum. I just really think it's off topic.
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>>30894354
>>30894360
Do you really not understand that the games will get better technically with every generation and tech improvements?

Every gen will look better than the previous. But since gen 6 has such shitty content it makes it much worse than gen 5 and 4. But there are tards that are even trying to argue gen 4 is better than gen 5 from technical standpoint which makes no sense
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>>30894376
this
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1>4>7>2>3>5>6
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>>30894370
I don't really care. It's like comparing models from the old tomb raider games to the new ones. It's age, not so much "technical" standpoint. Everyone here is just shitflinging anyway, no one actually believes that.
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>>30894251
>You've made no argument
Except I have. Gen 5's metagame was trash thanks to weather wars and genies being so prevalent above all else.
Gen 5's sprites were stretched, distorted, and warped almost beyond recognition.
Gen 5 started the trend of cutscenes every 5 seconds and now we have Sun and moon.
Gen 5 also marked the point in the series where the games stopped being about the protagonist and started being acout the protagonist's friends.
Gen 5 locked you out of 400 established Pokemon for no reason other than to be the "new" gen 1 and it failed miserably.
Gen 5 introduced so many new Pokemon they ended up rehashing older Pokemon, which defeats the purpose of locking the older Pokemon to postgame.
B/W have one of the worst postgames in the franchise, Black City and White Forest are jokes and the Kyurem town has nothing in it.
Hard mode is locked until AFTER you've beaten the game.
Gym leaders are forgettable and weak.
N is obnoxious and has an awful gimmick that makes him the easiest villain in the series.
The plot is obvious and cliche and that wouldn't be that bad of a thing if it wasn't shoved on you every few steps.
Musicals and Movies are one of the worst additions to the series bar none.
The UI of the bottom screen is the worst out of the DS family games and its a damn shame because Gen 4 nailed it in both DPPt and HGSS
The starters are generally considered to be the worst out of the series.
Hidden Abilities are a nice addition but the method of obtaining them is often ridiculous, which is poor design considering most Pokemon are worthless without their HA.
Seasons were a good addition but GF actually thought people would be playing the game for a year afterwards.
Unova is the shortest and most linear region yet.
Most routes in the game are straight lines.
The E4 must be defeated twice to become champion and their teams do not change between fights.

Gen 5 was garbage.
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>>30894376
>5 better than 7
>5 better than 3
>5 better than 2
> 5 better than 1
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>>30894175
Gameplay is railroaded to hell.
Graphics in overworld are ugly mashes of models and sprites that were done seamlessly in Gen 4, and graphics in battle are ugly blurs of pixels.
Battles are pretty much the same but as I said, battle facilities are better in Platinum. Platinum is also harder except for challenge mode in B2W2, which was actually good.
There are like 20 good Unova pokemon.

And story/lore/characters actually do matter in a game like pokemon since they're watch you interact with in your playthrough, and all of these things were done better in Sinnoh. Unova tried to be better but it was forced and very badly written, which is worse than the less heavy but all passable writing and characterisation of Sinnoh. Basically Unova can suck my nuts.
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>>30894400
Weather wars were fun, but yeah fuck genies.
>Stretched
Only if they were attacked.
Cutscenes are 4th gen's fault. Not 5th gens.
Could say the same with "Barry's matureness", cause Dia was just a memorable protag.
>Rehashing when mechanically they function much differently.
Yeah, most first games of a gen have little to no post game. Play BW2 to fix that.
>Pokemon and hard mode
lol
What is every gym leader, who even remembers them at this point? You remember gen 4's gym leaders? I don't.
Barry's pretty obnoxious too. N's just a hippie faggot.
>Plot
>Pokemon
Again, lol.
>Movies are bad
Now listen here you little shit, Sabrina's cleavage was the reason pokemon is videogames.
>UI sucks
LOL I do miss HGSS UI though.
>Bad starters
>What is jhoto
>Seripior is actually really good.
BW/BW2 could have handled it better, but at least it's not grinding hoardes.
>Shortest and linear
>Defending Sinnoh's clunkiness and HM induced madness
>Focusing on routes at all
And gen 4's elite four was just as trash that couldn't even stick to their themes.

"Gen 4 was garbage."
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>>30893825
>>30893972
>>30893899
>>30893884
>>30893873
DPP look like shit.
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>>30894442
>20 good pokemon
Reminder that Gen 4 came out with the first actually trash pokemon, and a bunch of other useless shit mon's nobody uses.
When is this meme going to die?
>Railroaded
>What is being hand held for double battle and your partner heals your team every time
No platinum wasn't even hard at all.
>Graphics are ugly.
It's a city based game, that's my only real argument for that.
And pokemon lore has been trashed, retconned, and been disemboweled so hard that it doesn't even matter at this point.
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>>30894503
>Reminder that Gen 4 came out with the first actually trash pokemon

The difference is that not all the Sinnoh pokemon were even in DP and that most Sinnoh pokemon are good

>What is being hand held for double battle and your partner heals your team every time

A thing that is only mandatory twice in 2 areas, and then compare that to how many random healers are strewn about Unova
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>>30894548
>most Sinnoh pokemon are good
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
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>>30894548
For the time, but now that power creep has come up, how many pokemon from 4th gen are being used competitively? The only one I can think of is garchomp. Most of them are forgettable.

And that's one thing I liked about BW, there's variety among trainer classes. Some are movement based, others used different battle methods. Except breeders, fuck BW/BW2 breeders.
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>>30894565
Not an argument
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>>30894573
I should add "Most 4th gen pokemon that aren't evolutions of previous generation pokemon." Lord knows there's a ton of magenzones and mamoswines out there.
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>>30893802
Air Balloon = Gen 5
Assault Vest, Weakness Policy = Gen 6
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>>30894586
Uh, evolite and rocky helmet then? That works I guess.
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>>30894602
both introduced in gen 5, too
>>
As usual, all Pokemon games are and have always shit with so many flaws.
I have never play any gen before gen 3, so I can said it: gen 4 is better than gen 5. Gen 4 have more post-game as well as possibly allow you to get 445 out of 493 Pokemon that are available in DP. You even have HGSS to trade other Pokemon! Platinum is good game with so many updates, and I really enjoy to completing national pokedex.
BW? Too bad, you have to use our Gen V shitty designed Pokemon only! What, you want more old Pokemon? Go play Dream World! FUCK IT.
Why the hell are out of all non-legendary Gen V Pokemon, Zorua and its line event-only? Why should I care about the story and forced characters, when I only want to play the Pokemon normally?
Do not say that BW2 are the greatest games, they suck. The story suck especially if you didn't play BW first. BW2 still have same problems as BW have: if you want more old Pokemon, go play Dream World. Even though I didn't have enough time for these shitty online minigames. And the post-game is lack, as always.
That is why I hate the idea of making sequels: you can't understand the pointless story without play its prequels. I didn't want SM sequel, SM already suck, Pokemon Bank also suck anyway.
Just give me Sinnoh remakes and the best starters, then I will finally be happy since gen 4.

Rank:
4>7>5>6>3
2 and 1 aren't count because I haven't played it.
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>>30893408
Take everything in Gen 4, refine it, remove shit parts, remove two good things, add a bunch of great things, and you get Gen 5.
The two good things I'm talking about are Sinnoh starters, and Pokemon following you from HGSS. But even Unova starters are better than Johto ones, so the former evens out.
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>>30894635
>and Pokemon following you from HGSS.
You know the kicker here?
That wouldn't have existed without black and white
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>>30893931
They're both annoying as fuck.
Why does GF keep making 'rivals' that I'd rather punch in the face than battle with. Wally, Barry, Bianca, Hau.
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>>3089340
mssd bth xcs m my kybards mssng 1 kys
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>>30894788
ll dbs
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>>30894635
>remove shit parts
So, almost everything?
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>>30893444
Nah, it's better than gen 4, gen 4 was kind of dull.
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>>30894764
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>>30894635
>I'm talking about are Sinnoh starters
I really like Torterra I suppose.

>and Pokemon following you from HGSS
That was really good, I don't know why they never did that again.

>But even Unova starters are better than Johto ones
I don't know, Totodile is pretty fucking boss.
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>>30894818
Tododile is great, but Yellow Human and Meganium are the worst. Emboar and Samurott look God-tier in front of them.
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>>30894635
>Unova starters are better than Johto ones
well fuck you too
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>>30894826
Water alligator and Grass snake are both great. But Johto has an overgrown weasel and a dinosaur with a flower. Compare that to a pig on fire and a samurai otter, you can see the difference.
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>>30893634
Of course the irony of that is that the biggest problem with 5th gen for me was that it's ugly as shit (particularly with those animated sprites), so I'd be all over a remake
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>>30894842
Johto has a flaming feral honey badger and a floral diplodocus. Compare that to a tattooed overweight swine and a sea lion with unwieldable swords that make movement virtually impossible.
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>>30894887
You know, even when you describe them like this, Unova ones sound better.
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>people hated Gen 5
>second best gen in the series after 7

The actual fuck?

Platinum and HGSS are some of the best games but are dragged down by how boring DP were
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>>30894983
>People hated Gen 5
No, they didn't. Only the people who didn't play it did.
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>ITT underages arguing which shitty game was better without having played the original and best games
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>>30895444
I've played them all, kid.
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>>30895507
but you didn't get those trips, did you? ;)
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>>30895444
ITT: People argue which grass is greener.
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>>30893444
> pass user since 2016

relly maeks u tink
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>>30893666
You really need to go outside /vp/ for once.
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>>30894026
Because people voted for both in the poll to trigger Unovafags
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>>30894152
Kek, stay mad, unovacuck.
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>>30894120
solid arguments, friendo
really changed my opinion here
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>>30895980
>cuck
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>>30894983
>muh opinion is fact
Speak for yourself, faggot.
>>30895263
Fact: Gen 5 still sold millions and is the least liked generation. You should go outside your hugbox more often.
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>>30893996
diaper beam lol
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>>30894150
Holy shit they have the exact same head. Were they really that lazy?
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>>30896049
Kek, stay mad, reddit cuck.
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>>30893846
To be fair, DPPt nailed how a volcano is supposed to look like.
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>>30893447
Serperior with Contrary is great.
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