I liked X Y more..

You are not alone.

Who doesn't?

>>30160637
>>30160648
Shit taste

>>30160637
>>30160648
I'm also in the quiet majority who preferred XY

>>30160637
(You)

>>30160670
Back into the bag Nebby!

>>30160670
>>30160681
samefag

>>30160637
Sun and Moon had a more interesting region but X and Y literally did everything else better

the friends were shit in x and y but at at least they didn't waste the first 3 hours of the game with pointless bullshit

>>30160637
you can't even compare x/y to s/m
xy had more content and wasnt rushed as this,i'm kinda sad because alola had potential

>>30160637
Then play X/Y faggot.
Nobody's forcing you to play Sun or Moon.

XY only had better
>routes (more memorable/distinct)
>competitive QOL (Hordes > SOS, Super Training, easier to get right down to breeding)
Everything else SM did better.

>>30160706
>doesn't know how to spot samefagging

Fuck off, newfag

>>30160637
SM > XY
but
ORAS > SM
so
idfk

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>>30160711
>>30160721
>>30160748

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>>30160748
you missed one or two things.

>>30160748
>routes (more memorable/distinct)

I disagree. Kalos has only one memorable route, which is the one after the fairy gym town.

>>30160678
>quiet majority
Nice meme. X and Y were atrocious. Name one thing they did better than Sun and Moon.

How's it feel to be wrong?

>>30160748
I'll give you competitive QOL, but I don't believe the routes were any more distinct. They seemed kinda bland, imo SM had much more memorable enviroments

>>30160722
Game Freak is by shutting down online features.

>>30160771
ORAS are the worst games in the series. Somehow, GF managed to make them worse than the original R/S.

>>30160828
hard to forget them when they are copy pasted for 8 miles

>>30160796
National Dex.

I agree with people saying postgame is lacking, but for the main game, S/M is easily in my top 3 pokemon games

>>30160796
Breeding. Here's a bonus second one: online features. Festival is an abomination compared to the ease of the PSS.

>Kalos nostalgia

Absolutely disgusting. Kalos nearly killed my love for the franchise.

>>30160855
January

>>30160894
>Breeding
>better than in SM

Found the bait.

>>30160796
ROLLER SKATES!

>>30160912
I want my National Dex in the game, not in Pokémon Bank.

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>mfw gen 7 is already great, but they will be improved thanks to Stars
>meanwhile Gen 6 will always be remembered as the worst point of the series

Kalos cucks on suicide watch

>tfw XY got me into the franchise again after dropping when BW came out
I like XY

>>30160924
It's absurdly better in XY if for no reason other than the hatching route was long and unobtrusive. The breeding route in SM is way too short and ends in loading screen on both sides so if you go slightly too far you zone out.

The only thing about breeding that is better in sun and moon is the fact that you don't gain levels or over write attacks. But I'd still happily go back to the XY method in exchange for an actual egg hatching route.

>>30160637
Same
And I'd rank XY in my top 3 least favourite games

>>30160952

>>30160894
I'll give you the PSS. I always forget about it until I try to go online. Breeding features, however, are essentially the same. Super training was tedious, and the who grinding thing sucks in every game. I'll stick with pkhex to get competitive mons.

>>30160930
Roller skates were shit. The fact that you couldn't use the analog stick to live without them was a horrible idea.

>>30160796
>less handholding, no obnoxious cutscenes after ever route the whole game
>interesting city designs. There's nothing close to lumiose city
>overall better regional dex, starters are way better
>online features

I'm sick and tired of the XY is garbage meme. It's not the best game in the series but it's far from the worst

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>>30160637
>mfw shills say that /vp/ still doesn't hate SuMo and doesn't find it even worse than XY
The shill tears are delicious.

Hell at least X/Y had some good routes and some really nice music. I can't recall one good piece of music in SuMo except for the Tapo Kaku encounter.

>>30161010
FUCK OFF! ROLLER SKATES ARE THE BEST!

>>30160994
>hatching route

Literally Poké Pelago. You can leave up to 18 eggs in the hot springs.

>>30160771
Flip the signs and we're golden.

>>30160678
>Quiet majority

How does it feel to be this much of a faggot?

>>30160994
>The breeding route in SM is way too short

Go to the fenced part in the ranch and run in circles with Tauros, retard.

>>30161055
kys Korrina

>>30161020
>interesting city designs. There's nothing close to lumiose city

you gotta try harder than that

the only thing i miss from X & Y is the easy pokemon breeding, i miss my harem of Dittos and im terrified of using PKhex to get me competitive mons

>>30160748
One of the best things about XY is that they had memorable routes, but they never really felt like they were connected all that well, they felt like they were all just separate ideas stitched together randomly.
SM's world actually felt connected. The lack of a lot of route gates probably helped.

>>30160637
Is this the Zelda cycle?

>>30161101
Cry more about how bad your childrens game is little boy

>>30161054
>SuMo

It doesn't surprise me at all that a retard like you can't remember all the great music in these games.

>>30161054
>I can't recall one good piece of music in SuMo except for the Tapo Kaku encounter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9au2MI5OuWg

you're welcome

>>30160748
>routes
Yeah, I fucking loved Route 1.

>>30161020
>interesting city designs. There's nothing close to lumiose city
Lumiose was a clusterfuck is one of the worst cameras ever. The city was full of uninteresting cafes with nothing to do.
>less handholding
But still waaaay way easier than SM.

>>30161133
Strange, it seems to me like it's the XYfags that are crying because SM is getting more attention and is in general more well-liked.

>>30160789
Not really, the show ruined serena. And Chicken-Chan is all around better regardless

>>30161118
Name a city in SM that's even close to as interesting to explore as Lumiose. The towns/cities in SM are pathetic

>>30160979
This
6 was such a drop for me, worst generation hands down
S&M is already better

>>30161054
>X/Y
>good music
>better than SM's soundtrack in any way

Please be bait.

>>30161059
I've gotten into this arguement before about the pelego.

#1 it does not solve the problem of having to run around BEFORE you get the eggs.

#2 You do not want to hatch 18 eggs at once. You want to hatch as fucking few eggs at once as possible to not waste time.

If I leave two pokemon with moderate or poor ivs in the breeder I don't want 18 eggs from them. I want to replace them immediately with their offspring if they have better IVs. There is never a time where I want to hatch that many eggs. And it is quicker and easier to keep the eggs in my party with a flame body pokemon to do that.

>>30161180
or its because we played both games?

>>30161192
every single one of them because Lumiose is dog shit

again, try harder

>>30161211
This guy breeds.

>>30161227
I inject. So who gives a shit.

>>30161054
XY's music was pretty unmemorable too as far as Pokemon music goes.
I don't recall the routes being much better either.

I think SM and XY are pretty equal in those respects honestly. And they're both subpar when you compare them to real pokemon games.

>>30161192
That's because Alola is more about the wilderness than the towns. There may only be one major town per island, but that's really all they need. Lumiose sucked because it was so big. It was tedious to navigate.

>>30161242
>real pokemon games
Are you implying anything past gen 2 is a real pokemon game anon?

>>30161242
meant older pokemon games, not real, but I guess this could apply too.

>>30161242
>when you compare them to real pokemon games

Reddit, leave.

>>30160994
You can hatch eggs in seconds by abusing Tauros in the fenced in area by the breeder club housr

SMfags are still in their honeymoon phase, arguing with them now is pointless.

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>>30161265
>complaining that X is larger

>>30161212
Judging by this thread I don't think half the people sucking XY's dick played SM at all.

>>30161298
It gets better in january when you can pokebank mons

Just because some people liked XY more doesn't mean that they liked it much.

I'm only on the third island but so far I agree. This has to be the most irritating experience I've ever had with a Pokemon game. Between the constant cutscene interruptions, annoying sidecharacters, shitty regional dex and even worse new Pokemon designs, there just isn't a lot to like about Gen VII. Also the festival thing fucking sucks.

And I hear they've removed the bike, the shiny charm and the hatching route too. Horde EV training was great, why did they have to fuck with it? The new SOS thing is annoying as hell, every time I want to catch a Pokemon it inevitably calls a friend before I can throw the fucking ball.

The customisation is a step down from XY as well. It's just fucking singlets and shorts, where's the variety that XY had?

>>30161298
The honeymoon phase will not end due to Stars.

>>30161324
Bingo

>>30161020
>Less handholding
Yet leagues easier then sun and moon

>Interesting City design
Lumiose was a clusterfuck with a shit camera.

>Starters were way better
You got me. I fell for the bait. No matter how slow he SM starters are they are still much better then X and Y starters. Better then baraweasel that is useless the whole game and better then furbait fox that's useless for 3/4 of the game.

>No obnoxious cutscenes
So obnoxious rivals are much better? I bet you want GameFreak to go back to using Sprites too.


tldr; you have shit taste.

>>30161342
>WAAAAAAAAAAAH WHY DIDN'T THEY REHASH THE SAME FORMULA FOR THE Xth TIMEEEE!!!

>>30160637
XY at least had a convenient way to battle online. In sun and moon you have to battle through Festival Plaza and that's just a really clunky thing that they should never have added.

>people still falling for the XY bait

It was announced since way before Sun/Moon came out. The same people trying to downplay everything the trailers revealed for a bit of attention. Now they're trying to paint XY as something better than it was just to get even more and you're giving them. It's pretty obvious when posts like
>>30161342
>The customisation is a step down from XY as well. It's just fucking singlets and shorts
and
>>30161054
>Hell at least X/Y had some good routes and some really nice music

appear. It's bait and you're biting, hard.

>>30161300
>bigger is always better

No, Kalos was better only for breeding.
Am I the only one liking every gen more then the previous?

>>30161369
SM starters are a lot worse than XY tho.
>defending cutscenes every 3 steps
lel

>>30161411
I still like 5 better than 6 honestly, but yeah.

>>30161169
>But still waaaay way easier than SM
Gotta agree with this. Most of the totem and character battles were actually challenging this time. Meanwhile I can't even remember ONE of my team in XY fainting in battle.

>>30161432
>SM starters are a lot worse than XY tho.
said no one ever

>>30161342
The "calling for help" mechanic is way better for EV training than hordes. Scoutland is as fast as the bike without pressing b.
you are literally complaining because they haven't rehashed the tired formula once again.

>>30161342
The bike would be useless in SM, the shiny charm has not been removed, and the autism box>>>> the breeding route. Also mons can be prevented from calling for help. Finish the damn game before bitching next time.

>>30161411
>Am I the only one liking every gen more then the previous?
if you lliked gen 6 more than 5, 4, 3, 2 and 1 yes

>>30160637
same here. i actually like gen 6 games. only thing hated was fight lysande 3 times in a row for no reason

>>30161432
>liking half hour cutscenes talking about "muh deepest lore"

>>30160794
This. The routes were awful and were literally all the same.

>>30160796
They are in the quiet majority, most people love XY, it's just you vocal minority unovabortions/hoennbabbies that shit on it.

>>30161549
>Unovabortions Hoenbabbies
Why are Gen 2 shills so hostile about other games?

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>>30161549
>most people love XY

I don't know what drug you are using but you gotta stop man

I bet you think everyone hate gen 1 too because the same idiots saying they love gen 6 here hate everything gen 1 and gen 2 related

But guess what
/vp/ isn't the entire world
Shocking i know

>>30161342
Fuck bikes

>>30161549
im a hoenn baby and i love x and y

>>30161549
>most people love XY

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>30160979
enjoy your scrapped features

>>30160637
I feel like XY felt like a more complete Pokemkn experience. I don't know which I liked better, though.

>>30160637
That's some shit taste anon

All characters in SuMo suck dick. Characterization was way better in X/Y, we had friends that we actually cared about instead of annoying Hau and Lillie, the plot was intriguing, Team Flare and Lysandre do a great villain combo instead of team wigger and Lusamine, and not having gyms and HMs is fucking stupid, don't call it pokemon then.

>>30161592
x and y has 8.6 user rating on metascore and sun has 7.5 and moon has 8.0 user rating. so...

>30161662
u

>>30161411
>Am I the only one liking every gen more then the previous?

Nah, the silent majority agrees with you. Don't even bother arguing with /vp/, everyone here is a contrarian hipster who don't even make up 1% of the fanbase.

>>30161662
>All characters in XY suck dick. Characterization was way better in SuMo, we had friends that we actually cared about instead of annoying Tierno and Trevor, the plot was intriguing, Team Skull and Lusamine do a great villain combo instead of team flare and Lysandre, and not having gyms and HMs is refreshing

FTFY

>>30161682
>The silent majority
>SuMo sold more than XY which sold worse than BW2
kek

>>30161718
>Lusamine better than Lysandre
>Hau better than Shauna and Tierno
>Trials are good

You don't really believe in this, admit it.

>tfw breeding, EV training and levelling in X/Y was so much easier
I fucking hate the Festival Plaza. Give me the battle mansion, battle restaurants, hordes and nice bikes routes back, you Gamefreak fuckers. S/M would've been perfect if those had been kept.

>>30161662
>we had friends that we actually cared about
No we didn't
>Team Flare and Lysandre do a great villain combo
Lysandre is a pussy and his plan was retarded
>not having gyms and HMs is fucking stupid
How can your stupid ass possibly miss HMs? All they do is waste move slots

>>30161750
The friends in XY were annoying pushovers. At the very least, Hau was able to challenge the Pokemon league.
Also Shauna was a shoehorned love interest that literally only had 1 romantic scene with the protagonist. BW had better character arcs than XY.

>>30161781
>No we didn't

This. The game didn't force us to care, so each of us had a different experience.

If only SM followed that, right Lillie?

i dont understand why people get so overprotective if you say pokemon sun and moon are bad games. pokemon isnt gonna end just because someone says that. pokemon sun and moon will say 17-20 million copies.

>>30161748
>>XY which sold worse than BW2
>this level of denial

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Nope, even BW sold less than XY, much less than B2W2 which sold half of that. I can understand why you'd hate XY, but there is no need to blatantly lie.

Sorry but will not be subscribing to this shitty /vp/ meme.

I had to force myself to finish XY. I played SM for hours and hours straight because I couldn't get enough of it.

>>30161781
>How can your stupid ass possibly miss HMs?

Not him but i'd rather have HMs and actually have routes and stuff to discover with them than shit like Mudsdale that you use two or three times the entire game to progress in the main story only in something that could totally never need it (seriously, you need a horse to cross rocks?) or machamp which you use for a dumb excuse of a puzzle and back in melemele to get literally nothing

>>30161810
>"My point got totally disproven so I'll make believe that I was making a different point all along!"

>>30161750
Lusamine is better than a Cyrus clone, the XY friends were boring and did nothing in the game, and trials are more unique and a breath of fresh air than gym battles

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>People pretending to like XY all along now that it's gen is over

You're not impressing anyone.

>>30161810
Sorry, correction. MOST people didn't. If there's one thing nobody cares about on /vp/, it's Shauna, Tierno and the other kid

>>30161662
It doesn't even surprise me at all at this point that the SM haters are the same people who unironically want HMs.

>>30160637
No you didn't. You're lying

>kalosperms actually defending HMs

kill youselves

>>30161846
>tfw /vp/ is trying to be edgy contrarian and looking like retards doing it

>>30161874
Nah, SOME people like shauna.
Not the other "friends"

>>30161900
>Nah, SOME people like shauna.
no, some people want to fuck shauna, its different
they still hate the character

Ew kalos

>>30161855
literally still better than HMs by miles

>>30161892
This. I've hated HMs since I first played Sapphire, I just resigned myself to assuming they'd never get rid of the fucking things.

Can people stop with the "Breeding and EV training is better in XY" bullshit? This is objectively wrong. The SOS mechanic is way more efficient.

You know XY was shit when people defend it by saying they miss HMs

>"Press A" the game

I'm hoping the excessive storytime railroading and shitmons don't set the scale for future games.

>>30161917
Shauna wasn't trying to be your rival, just a girl who hung out with you. truest me she'll get retroactively a bit more love because of the fact all she ever did was want to be your friend, and gave you a second starter, unlike Lillie the MC of the story.

>>30161474
> 'YES, we finally don't need to teach HM's!'
> Now we need a Pokemon with a status move during the main game instead.

>>30162008
>uses EXP shareasy mode
>complains the game is too easy

>>30161936
no. the idea is great, the result is terrible
without forcing you to have a designated member to use HMs they never felt the need to reward you for crossing the "barriers". Alola looks like a fantastic place to explore but not only you never get the chance during the main game because of the handholding, when you finally go and take all the rides to look for something, you find nothing. Without the compromise of HMs, there are no rewards. Say what you want about Kalos but exploration was rewarding there

>>30161846

I'm the opposite. XY was a blast. SM so far is a chore.

>>30162008
it will. every MC will be less and less relevant to the plot, but required to do everything for the gen's OC waifu girl, who will join ash's journey int he anime, and every rival will be dumber and dumber happy go lucky hau's

>>30162010
Lillie gave you a legendary. Shauna gave you a shitmon. If GF wanted to make a likeable romantic interest, they should've implemented a date system and actually given Shauna an arc. As it is, she just comes off a slightly less forgettable than the two dudes that you talk to at the beginning of the game.

>>30162064
You're kidding right? You literally can't even get the Flying Z-Crystal unless you went and explored with new rides.

>>30162064
there was literally nothing to explore in Kalos except a few items you can get using strength

I like XY more. I don't miss needing HMs one bit but they also removed the utility of Dig, Teleport, Soft-Boiled, Sweet Scent, etc... for no reason. There is just no way that the removal of HMs and the removal of actually useful overworld moves is not connected.

>>30162081
Is this why people don't like SM? Because their self-insert MC (who can't talk) isn't the number one most unique and greatest person in the entire world anymore?

>>30162127
The beauty of the region alone was a worthy reward.

Every inch of Kalos was designed with european beauty and style in mind.

>>30162081
>tumblr

>>30162064
HMs always sucked as long as you needed a mon to have them, because it reduced your team slot to 5, or your move list to 3

Alola sucks to explore because it's design is bad, not because of the ride pokemon replacing HMs. Rides are all just HMs with the pokemon built into it and not taking up team space.

>>30162176
pffffffffffffffft

>>30162037
Nigger I'm talking about the cutscenes, handholding and

>>30162064

>>30162176
>PokeFrance
>Didn't get raped by a Pokemuslim
I feel gipped of the experience.

>>30162212
You better quit pokemon now because SM is getting praised by most people for its cutscenes and focus on story.

you're gonna hate gen 8, faggot

>>30160855
>people pretending as if they actually care about the pokedex for the sake of winning an argument
worst. than. hitler.

>>30162194
>Rides are all just HMs with the pokemon built into it and not taking up team space.
But you used HMs to get somewhere and find stuff before

Now you use mudsdale to cross a completely arbitrary patch of rocks once or twice in the entire game just because. You don't even need to use it in one of the routes, there's another path through grass. It's literally useless unless when they force you to just cross a route on it

>>30162227
>PokeFrance
>Didn't get run over by a PokeTruck

Also feel like I missed out 2bh

I only turned on pokemon games for the minigames. No minigames this gen = in the trash it goes.

>>30162176
So kalosperms are pretty much just eurocucks mad that 2 of the best gens (5 and 7) are set in America?

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>>30162176
Can't tell if trolling or actually this stupid

>>30162176
So basically you didn't like the Hawaiian aesthetic, which means your opinion from day one is that you wouldn't like this game, regardless of what the game actually is.

>>30162239
Nebby! Go back into the bag!

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>>30160637
I liked OR/AS the best so far.
Sun and Moon aren't bad though.

>>30162245
Actually go explore with Sharpedo and Machamp. You get basically the same amount of hidden stuff you got from old gens with HMs.

>itt people justifying their shitty purchase whilst having buyer's remorse
or honeymoon period as some people stated

>>30161966
>better than hordes
No. Maybe I have bad luck, but even with the orb, SOS chaining is frustrating.
>Tauros spinning better than a bike
No.
>better than battle maison/Blissey leveling
No.

I like S/M more than X/Y, but they made some frustrating choices concerning breeding. It took half an hour to get a freshly bred mon from 1 -100 in X/Y w/EVs and I can't see anything being quicker in S/M. Feel free to prove me wrong.

>>30161874
Cool. Point still stands.

>>30162268
>best gens (5 and 7) are set in America?

Replace the linear shithole that is Unova with Orre and you are objectively correct.

>>30162347
Its both. Also throw in /vp/ wanting to hate what the general consensus like

>>30162338
There are two places you use machamp outside of the main quest
None of the rewards are decent
Stop lying, faggot

>>30162347
It's 3 years old, how are they still in the honeymoon period?

kalosperms are autistic

>>30160796
X and Y were legitimately the peak of online functionality in pokemon.

>>30162245
Tauros and Sharpedo are literally rock smash
Machamp is literally strength
Lapras is literally surf
Charizard is literally Fly
Mudsdale is essentially rock climb

>>30162160
No they hate being forced to keep accidentally instigate unstoppable cutscenes and not even be allowed the courtesy of controlling the pace of the narrative in the game they are playing.

the problem isn't the story mode is about Lillie and Nebby, the problem is it's only about them and you do nothing beyond 'enable' her plot to advance, because your a mute with no say in anything. it's just consantly stopping you doing things to make you help her. it's not like your going on a journey to explore the ruins as her bodyguard so she can learn about nubby, it's just literally she goes everywhere you are going and 'conveniently' needs to go everywhere your going.

you exist for her plot, not as a part of the plot.

>>30160637
I didn't. Not to say that XY are terrible games, I just thought they were disappointing. The plot wasn't really cohesive, Team Flare is a shitty team all around, and quite frankly I couldn't give less of a damn about my "friends".

The only things XY did right were breeding and the Pokemon distribution. Everything else wasn't really that interesting.

>>30162387
You get the fucking Flying Z-Crystal with Machamp, and a TM.

That's so much worse than those awesome Revives we used to get from Strength boulders right?

>>30162160
>tfw the last time a player character in a pokemon game didn't have to save the world was gen 2
>tfw you just wanted to catch them all

>>30162439
I don't think this has been a thing since Gen 3. You're railroaded into a lot of things in all of the games but it's become very, very blatant since then.

>>30162397
>autistic
I don't think you know the definition of that word, little boy

oh fuck off

XY was garbo, please don't give GF the idea that people liked it

>>30162439
>Now you have to spend your journey being constantly coddled by other characters

This wouldn't even be a problem to me, my problem is when I have to coddle a shitty NPC.

Stop me all the time, shower me with praises, challenge me to battles, whatever, just don't make MY STORY be a mere sidequest.

>>30162485
>please don't give GF the idea that people liked it

But anon, the normies love it :^)

>>30162439
Pokemon hasn't been like what you're describing since Hoenn, and even then Hoenn had a lot of railroading.

>>30162426
>Machamp is literally strength
you used to find good stuff while using strength, you don't in SuMo
>Lapras and Sharpeedo are literally surf
despite being a game centered about islands there are no decent places to surf
you don't even need to be hoenn to have better surf rewards than SuMo
>Mudsdale is essentially rock climb
Rock Climb was way less useless than Mudsdale
Give me one, just one, good use of the mudsdale gimmick. something neat you found crossing rocks or how it made sense you wouldnt be able to cross somewhere except if you used a mudsdale. i fucking challenge you

>>30162502
good thing they like SM better, last thing we need is roller skating through france again

>>30162245
Wow, you picked the one ride pokemon that does the least.
Every other pokemon serves the exact same purpose with the exact same amount of usefulness as HMs, with the added bonus of replacing boring key items with riding a fucking POKEMON.
You need to take of your nostalgia goggles if you really believe that you liked HMs more.

>>30162499
As opposed to Shauna.
She was the big love interest in XY btw.

>>30162485
Everyone loves XY outside autismchan

Just the /vp/ contrarians keep spouting memes against it and praising crap like Gen 01, Gen 05 and now Gen 07

>>30161131
We were in it before SM even officially came out. Fastest turn around from games being praised to being hated I've seen

>>30162521
>it's okay to have a stupid gimmick that leads nowhere and had no reason to exist other than pretend it's new content because you ride a horse !!!1

Sorry for not being as easily amused and childish as you

>>30162559
>gen 1

except only people outside autismchan praise that

>>30162588
Why are you playing Pokemon then? It's a children's video game. Go play something else then.

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>>30162081
I can't even be in denial anymore. Fuck this world.

I just wanted to fill my dex, am I asking too much?

>>30162430
This problem cannot be solved as long as the MC stays mute. We either have a plot like the one we have in SM or "random kid stumbles around and eliminates an entire criminal organization and was actually the Box Legend's chosen one" for the umpteenth time.

>>30162588
>Sorry for not being childish while I'm playing a children's video game
Don't you have to update your edgy grimdark fangame, anon?

>>30162523
she has ONE scene in the castle that can vaguely sound romantic foreshadowing if you want to take it that way in x/y that's it.

beyond that all she ever wanted to do was make her pokemon happy and be with her friends.

>>30162233
>praised for laggy cutscenes

>>30162322
>translation: you're completely right and I have no argument
say no more

>>30162666
the cutscenes aren't even "laggy" (lag doesn't apply to framerate, retard"

it's the double battles and totem battles

>>30162686
Please Nebby! For the sake of fuck. Pleeease... go back into the bag!?!

>>30162651
The fireworks scene and "I've never done x with a boy before" scenes were all hints that she's supposed to be your love interest. It was just handled terribly

>>30162634
Revert to BW, problem solved.

If that fails, Pokemon XD.

>>30162692
Why the fuck would you praise the cutscenes? They transition horribly and your character doesn't even react to anything.

>>30162559
PFFFFFF

>>30162740
People were very divided on BW's plot too, that doesn't solve anything.

>>30162634
Never going to happen. Might as well stop playing Pokemon now or learn to tolerate the story because that's the direction we're going in.

Be ready for gen 8 where you don't move for the first half hour of the game.

>>30162634
I agree this is entirely a problem with japan rigidly thinking the protag being mute must remove all sense of agency from him. we don't have to entirely talk full spoken lines or be an entirely created by Gf character we have no say over but we need to feel we are a 'person' within the plot rather a device.

but the other elephant in the room problem is the stuff you need to do to make pokemon better as pure RPG are going to detract and irritate people who 'just' want to catch mons and be the champ.

I think the solution is just split the difference, make the x/y s/m style games story light catch em all be the champ. then make colloseum style console games that are much more story heavy and story driven

>>30162755
>endless happy-go-lucky smile
WHY, GAMEFREAK
Seriously what the FUCK

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I liked them all equally.

so basically this is gen 5 again where autists can't stand story and cutscenes and want to be a le lone wolf adventure man who beats 8 gyms, becomes champ, and catches them all while talking to no one or having no motivation

>>30162815
And then we get the Gen 4 remake where people can't stand doing all of that.

>>30162755
Pokémon Hype Machine.

>>30161342
Are you playing on an Old 3DS by any chance?

I've played both games side by side on the O3DS and N3DS and noticed that the O3DS is 10% slower, roughly, which takes the cutscenes from eeeh a bit annoying to downright agonizing

>>30162815
yep
does this mean sun2/moon2 will be GOAT?

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>>30162785
Huh. Kinda like Digimon Story and Digimon World.
>Atlus will never make a Pokemon game

>>30162803
Kek, glad I'm not the only one that noticed that. I also don't like seeing Rotom blinking at me. It took me a few hours to ignore his constant blinking.

>>30162815
I don't mind story, I just dislike when they aren't about me.

>>30162712
she's not your love interest those are just scenes that can imply you could be more later 'if you wanted'

The only time they went mostly overt with attraction implication was in BW2, with that person who is different genders depending which trainer you picked and whose dialogue changes throughout the game.

i would fuck the shit out of Shauna and make her an underage mom, but the game doesn't push her as anything more than a girl you saw fireworks with, so you can probably hit that if you wanted later.

>>30162785
The problem with that is that the people who just want to speed through the game and get right through breeding and battling don't actually care about the story anyway. Whether the story is good or bad is irrelevant to them, and irrelevant to Gamefreak to try and pander to them.

Pokemon is a 20-year old series, they can't just rehash the same plot every game forever, at some point they're gonna have to move away from that and try something new.

>>30162852
>"Why does the protagonist look so bad"
>"It's literally the same place"
>"Where's the gen 4 remake"
>"There's literally no story, wtf."

>>30162233
God this is depressing

>>30162815
>explorerfagging in evil team hideout
>read some optional shit about how they created mewthree

Whereas SM does not let you leave the area until you've pressed A facing every bookshelf.

(((((lore)))))

>>30162992
you can literally do that in the Aether Foundation, it's the only way to find out about Type:Null's backstory

further confirming that you XYniggers just rush through the game like spazzes

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I'm glad that you're enjoy the story, everyone. I've already been appointed the director of Sun 2 and Moon 2 and Masuda-san gave permission to make an even longer story.

Ah, and due to popular demand, Lillie is coming back from Kanto to travel with you!


Please look forward to it!

>>30163043
Thank you based Ohmori.

Please make Guzma a more prominent character. Give him a redemption arc.

>>30163043
Pls less lillie

>>30163043
pls more lillie, she's cute and I love her

>>30163043
nice. i like lillie

>>30163043
What about the cutscenes!? TELL ME ABOUT THEM CUTSCENES!!!!

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>>30160637
>liking any pokemon game
/vp/ stop lying to yourself

>>30161662
Not having HMS is one of the best thing ever. Fuck HMS, they always love to ruin Pokémon. Are you seriously going to try to defend HMS

>>30163043
Literally who

>>30163145
the savior of pokemon

bend the knee, nigger

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>>30163043
Can you get the guy that makes Pokemon Adventures to help you write what happens to Lillie? he's great at writing stories with female protags

>>30162895
true but we're seeing a problem in this gen that both ends are kind getting the shit end.

The people who want more story and a better journey are annoyed the story revolves around a waifu bait and they only exist to enable her, while everything become more and more tedious to get/train until post game. with post game beign basically worthless to them beside grinding.

and the people who don't want the story, are getting stuck in longer unskippable more elaborate cutscenes, longer more annoying gaps between when they can pick the starter for ideal nature//gender, and more and more phoned in post game (EV training isn't post game, forcing it to be harder to do until then doesn't change this fact.) while the online si getting more roundabout, more complicated in needless ways, and more grindy in bad ways.


the are problems iteration fixes, but never will eb as long as GF keeps thinking throwing everything out each gen will work.

>>30163038
They don't let you leave the Extradimensional Research lab on Island 2 until you do this. That is literally all that area was for - for the obnoxious Stranger Things shit story.

>rushing through the game
The beginning is 5mph slow, how can you not want to rush through the game afterward?

>>30163043
This guy is single handedly making a multimillion franchise shit.

At this point I don't care about Pokemon. I just want some other company to make a game that is what Pokemon should be.

>>30163198
Stop fucking lying, retard. Reading the bookshelves are completely optional.

>>30163205
Just go play shitty romhacks, autist.

You can le lone wolf edgelord man who doesn't care about story or other people around him in those.

>>30163205
He's actually making it a lot of money. Most people don't actually share your opinion so GF can just ignore you and not lose anything at all.

>>30163205
>pokemon should be the same thing over and over

that's exactly why sales kept dropping with every new game though, and exactly why SM will be the best selling pokemon game in generations

>>30163205
Fucking faggot.

>>30163287
I have a feeling that Pokémon GO had also something to do with that.

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What I missed about X was the trainer customization. Serena had a ton of choices available to her compared to Chicken, and I missed the hoodie and baseball cap options Calem had. Dying clothes is nice and all, but the clothes themselves don't feel as unique as they did before.

Festival Plaza also feels terrible compared to the PSS. What I liked about the PSS was that you could continue to play the game normally while still getting trade requests while you play, or quickly access it to get to the GTS or battle a friend, and you could set your own messages rather than being forced to use presets like "I'll get a shiny!" which doesn't help when you're asking for specific Pokemon. I'd rather have the Festival Plaza be something separate instead of trying to integrate both the PSS and the Join Avenue at the same time.

I still enjoyed Moon a lot and thought it was a good game, but these two things were what bugged me a lot.

>>30163255
at this point much as you can aruge he's causing problems the bigger problem that's hurting GF is their own refusal to just start retaining features that worked in multiple gens.

the festival plaza itself is a living bastion for 'ok we did this right prior, let's do it completely differently now even though it isn't guaranteed to work as well."

they HAVE to stop throwing the sink out each gen and start refining features.

>>30163319
Who the fuck plays Pokemon go or has played it in the months S/M was announced?

>>30163221
>forced to go to a library in the game to progress """""story"""""
>you don't even have to read anything this time
>you just watch pixelated waifu bait sit around

>press A to continue

>>30163350
gen 1 nostalgia normies, which would be the ones Nintendo would hope to bait into buying sun and Moon.

we're the constant, they expect us to buy the game by default.

>>30160748
What about better clothes, sitting on furniture, the National Dex and the Amie minigames?

>>30163440
I loved Amie. Seeing my pokemon run around a decorated room/field while other people's pokemon hung out was really cozy.

>>30163476
If Amie also had Refresh's backgrounds and its grooming feature it'd be perfect.

>>30163440
imma be honest, if the national dex being in the bank means you no longer 'need' a living dex for each gen after and just always get full credit only needing the 'new' mons/forms that's better long term.

>>30163378
>praised as deep story

A portion of the Pokemon fanbase is hopelessly retarded.

>>30163562
It would also be a huge slap in the titties for all the people who worked on a living pokedex.
I hope you're right.

>>30163334
Maybe they'll do that when their games stop raking in money because XY proved they can be incredibly lazy and still make a fuckton of money.

>>30160637
Nice joke. X and Y was so bad that it couldn't even get a third game. In fact that had to put all the Z content in Sun and Moon. Honestly the only thing XY has over SM is
1. It was easier to make competitive Pokémon
2. I liked the pokemon designs more(SM designs are still good though)
3. The anime(which even then, still had some problems.)
4. And I miss the old way to fish. That's about all the pros I can give to one of the blandest gens of them all

>>30163324
>that face
I'm more interested in your trainer than any of the shit you said

Ew. The sooner Kalos is forgotten the better.

>>30163707

True it is the only gen not to get a third game

>>30163707
Why is a good anime being counted as a pro when it has nothing to do with the quality of the games?

>>30163707
What does the anime have anything to do with the games

>>30163760
>>30163745
Because he needed to make 4 points instead of 3

>>30163741
I don't want "third games". I want Game Freak to make them right the first time. Not save features for the rehash...

>>30163745
Nothing really. I just wanted to give X and Y 5 pros DESU but couldn't really think of anything so I just put the anime. Also left out the PSS.

>>30163790
They've never done them right the first time except for maybe RB. Some games were barely done at all.

>>30163834
>time except for maybe RB. S
That is the sad reality that I'm starting to accept.

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I'm genuinely not sure how that is possible given how XY was but you do you champ. I'm not mad.

>>30161020
half of these are opinions y'know?

>>30163846
Then accept it already, faggot. Maybe then you'll have some semblance of happiness as you continue playing childrens video games

>>30161474
>Also mons can be prevented from calling for help
How? This was never explained and I just finished the main story.

>>30163930
You're probably right. Thank you.

>>30163324
It takes two seconds to access the Festival Plaza.

>>30163954
Items

Even XY realized itself was shit

>you're the chosen one!! Mega evolve is yours to master! Only you and the lucario fucker can do it!
>Except that guy and that guy. Also your shitty rival can in the end game and is still shit, but we won't bother explaining this garbage game.

>>30163954
status them

>>30160994
you're a fucking retard

>>30164010
They could've legit just made it a new discovery and a new movement sweeping the pokenation.
Maybe mega rings are what makes Kalos' shit corporation relevant

I absolutely adored X even if it was short, I was excited for ORAS but got bored after one gym, now trying to play Sun but there's too many cutscenes and I'm already bored.

What do I do besides kill myself?

>>30164503
You're already dead inside for enjoying the big steaming pile of crap that is Pokemon X

Just put your body to rest accordingly

>>30164503
Did you play Super Mystery Dungeon?

It's more exciting than gen 6 and 7 imo.

>>30163834
Gold and Silver.

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>>30164017
So if you status them, they don't call for help? There's an item that does that? I wish that was ever explained in the game. I didn't even know you could check EVs with Y until I read it on a sign.

>>30160637
Then explain why you cocksucker, don't just leave the fucking thing in the air, you know how /vp/ works.

>>30164655
>Gold and Silver.
crystal is vastly superior than both

and one could argue that HGSS make GSC completely unnecessary

>>30163707
>In fact that had to put all the Z content in Sun and Moon.

What makes you think that SM will have a third game?

And SM is much worse than XY, it's barely Pokemon at this point.

>>30164609
>crap

>>>/r/eddit
>>>/m/iddleschool

>>30164503
Play persona 3

>>30160637
So, which is the superior version?

I've played
Blue -> Yellow -> Gold -> Crystal -> Sapphire -> Emerald -> Fire Red -> Diamond -> Platinum -> Soul Silver -> Heart Gold -> White -> Black 2 -> X -> Alpha Sapphire

(If you have similar choices I want to know which was your choice now).

>>30164695
>crystal is vastly superior than both

So?

NOBODY who played Gold Silver in 99 thought that these games were incomplete. They exceeded all expectations and added a bunch of features that we didn't even knew we wanted.

>>30164761
>NOBODY who played Gold Silver in 99 thought that these games were incomplete

Everyone felt Kanto was rushed and empty since GS

People loved the Johto part, Kanto was a nostalgia kick that led to nowhere till we fought Red

Crystal mended the horrible level curve, added more content, fixed the distribution and added the "thing we didnt even knew we wanted" which was gender choice and animation for pokemon which became staples of the game so far and made the previous ones look weird without them

And then HGSS came and fixed everything that crystal left untouched

>>30160850
only fags on 4chan say so. ORAS was great. R/S was great too, but emerald was the best.

>>30164838
>ORAS was great
said no one ever

>>30163711
The only way to get that face is through save editing. Posted it because he's wearing the hoodie.

>>30163973
While that is true, it's not as convenient as the PSS, where you'd get notifications even while you were breeding or played through the story. The communication system is also worse than before.

>>30164701
At this point, were just going by a rumor so in fact, it may not get a third game. I could be completely wrong in the future. Also how did it not feel like a Pokémon game. It had every element that makes a Pokémon game. Is it because gyms are gone(which is extremely dumb thing to say if that's the case. Trial Pokémon replaced gyms and are way more interesting then gyms.)

please don't let this meme opinion take off

XY had better clothes customization and a better bottom screen.

>>30164701
>it's barely Pokemon at this point.
the core of pokemon has not changed at all. you can still catch pokemon and use them in battle.
GF just took out HMs, changed gyms to trials to fit the Hawaiian/polynesian theme, and made the "badges" have an actual use.
It wouldn't be pokemon if you weren't able to catch and train pokemon at all.

>>30164655
Gold and Silver have tremendous issues that are shielded by nostalgia.

>>30164821
>Crystal mended the horrible level curve
nah it's still shit

>>30160637
Honestly miss XY too. Don't know if it's because of the game's overall design(really liked the routes and cities in XY) or because z-moves just aren't that attractive for me. Trials were new and all, but a little meh by the end. Alola's cities missed something.

>I liked it when the climatic fights even the one against the genocidal mastermind had him use only three pokemon!
>I liked souless and boring gym leaders!
>I liked 4 annoying uninteresting faggots tagging alongside me! Sun and Moon didn't had enough of that!.

>>30165669
>>I liked it when the climatic fights even the one against the genocidal mastermind had him use only three pokemon!
What's with all the fucking trainers only having one pokemon each?
What makes them any different from a random wild pokemon encounter?

Reminder that Gen 7 will only continue to improve while Gen 6 was cucked out of a third game that could have fixed everything in the first shitty pair. :^)

>>30166050
Some of them have two Pokemon :^)
But seriously, what the fuck? At least the E4 have 5 Pokemon and Hapu has 4.

>>30166050
>all
Get to the third and fourth island.

>>30160994
Where in the literal fuck are you breeding? You just run in a fucking circle with Tauros near the Nursery. You get to immediately see when you have a new egg too. Tauros takes like, 2 minutes to hatch an egg, WITHOUT flame body. The breeding is so much better in SM if you're not retarded like yourself.

>>30162245
Remember in Kalos when you had to ride a slow as fuck rhydon and mamoswine just to cross their one route with one "hidden" item on it? Don't act like SM did some new shitty thing when XY still managed to do it worse

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>gen 6 fags will never EVER get a good game
>gen 7 fags already got one

>>30166198
I'm just about to finish the second, just doing some autistic obsessive EV training for my fancy new Honedge.

>>30160637
Nah, it was okay but I think X and Y are on the bottom rung of entries in the series.

>terrible slippery roller blade controls
>insultingly easy
>only you and about three other people have access to mega evolution
>aside from Korrina and Valerie, completely forgettable and irrelevant gym leaders
>dullest villains the series has to offer
>worst rivals-sorry, """friends""" the series has to offer
>literally unfinished, no eternal floette, Zygarde's full form is in Sun and Moon

On the other hand I think the starters were among the best and friend safari was fun. Online features in general were more easily accessible. Otherwise, Sun and Moon is much better than X/Y.

>>30165069
Because it's more focused on story than catching, training and becoming the champion.

They didn't even have a league until Lillie's issues were sorted out, it feels like the league was just an after thought, a side quest.

I don't care if it's gyms or trials, as long as the focus is to be the greatest trainer in the region which in SM only happened at the beginning and near the end.

This reminds me of Sycamore telling your friends what "being the greatest trainer" means, that's the stuff I enjoy.

I like X/Y better as well. Story wise.

Difficulty wise, Sun/Moon is harder but who plays Pokemon for difficulty?

>>30166752
>but who plays Pokemon for difficulty?

Everyone

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>>30166819
>Everyone
I heard of being hyperbolic but holy shit.

>>30160794
>>30161532
I prefer XY routes in that even though they're linear, at least you could explore on them.

SM routes are literally straightforward with little opportunities for exploration.

DPPt still has the best routes though.