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Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>Newfag Airing/Viewing Order Guide for XY:
http://pastebin.com/anb9qe55

>Sun & Moon Anime Information
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_sunmoon/story/
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgAz7gMg35pB_fSF91D0JCZ3uvYkEQC9G

Next episode:
>SM3 - Good Rotomorning, I am the Rotomdex, Roto! + SM4 - Enter Rowlet! I Got a Pokémon in Alola!! [Nov 24th]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_sunmoon/episodes/

Upcoming episodes:
>SM5 - Popplio, Do Your Balloonest! [Dec 1st]
>SM6 - Togedemaru: Prickling and Tingling! [Dec 8th]

Shit people will ask:
>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z and SM. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>30037342

SM1 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_Sun_&_Moon_001_Alola!_New_Islands,_New_Pokemon!![H264_720P][90771713].mkv.torrent

XY&Z45 RAW:
http://pocketmonstersraws.fansub-torrents.com/[PM-RAW]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_045_One_Last_Battle_with_Satoshi!_Serena's_Choice!![H264_720P][24B7451C].mkv.torrent

XY&Z46 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=862007

XY&Z47 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_047_No_End_to_the_Zeros!_Till_the_Day_We_Meet_Again!![H264_720P][EB1C0BCC].mkv.torrent

XY&Z SPECIAL 1 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=867058

XY&Z SPECIAL 2 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=869085

SM1&2 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=871854
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NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS SUN & MOON 3: GOOD ROTOMORNING, I AM THE ROTOM ZUKAN, ROTO! & 4: ENTER MOKUROH! I GOT A POKÉMON IN ALOLA!! (NOVEMBER 24TH)
>Satoshi and Pikachu's new partner, the Rotom Zukan, makes its debut! And Satoshi gets his first Pokémon in the Alola region!?
>Also, the new data broadcast system starts, and we have extravagant prizes as well
>And Abareru-kun appears too

>Summary:
>"Good Rotomorning, I am the Rotom Zukan, Roto!"
>Satoshi receives a new Pokémon Zukan from Professor Kukui. Incredibly enough, this Pokémon Zukan is an amazing Pokémon Zukan that can speak human language, called the "Rotom Zukan". Satoshi and Pikachu immediately go to the forest with the Rotom Zukan. Meanwhile, the evil organization known as the Rocket Gang arrives in the Alola region on orders from their boss Sakaki, and...?

>"Enter Mokuroh! I Got a Pokémon in Alola!!"
>One day, Satoshi meets a hungry Mokuroh, a Grass Quill Pokémon. In an attempt to get it, Satoshi and the others chase after it into the forest. But the forest contains the habitat of the Woodpecker Pokémon Tsutsukera! Satoshi and the others watch Mokuroh and the Tsutsukera with great interest, but then the Rocket Gang show up!

>Data Broadcast:
>The "Pocket Monsters Sun & Moon" data broadcast is filled with features, like "PokéProblems"; quiz questions related to the episode, and "PokéMeter", which shows QR codes you can read with the "Pokémon Sun/Moon" video games! Push the d-button on your remote while the show is airing.
>"PokéMeter":
>If you fill the meter all the way while the show is airing, a special QR code will be displayed. Read this special QR code and register it in the zukan in the video game "Pocket Monsters Sun/Moon"!
>"PokéProblems":
>Answer 4 quiz questions by using the colored buttons on your remote. If you get a question right, you'll get 3 points, but even if you get it wrong, you'll still get 1 point. If you get at least 10 points total, you get the chance to win a prize!
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>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Daisuke Namikawa: Rotom Zukan
>Kei Shindo: Lilie
>Kaito Ishikawa: Kaki
>Reina Ueda: Mao
>Hitomi Kikuchi: Suiren
>Fumiko Takekuma: Māmane
>Keiichi Nakagawa: Professor Kukui
>Unsho Ishizuka: Principal Okido
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Kenta Miyake: Sakaki
>Risa Shimizu: Joy
>Rikako Aikawa: Ashimari
>Mika Kanai: Togedemaru
>Chika Fujimura: Amakaji
>Chinami Nishimura: Nyabby
>Abareru-kun: Anime Cheerleading Chief

UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 60 (Nov 25th)

SM5 - Popplio, Do Your Balloonest! (Dec 1st)

SM6 - Togedemaru: Prickling and Tingling! (Dec 8th)

POKEMON XY&Z CHARACTER SONG PROJECT COLLECTION VOL 2:
https://my.mixtape.moe/buzdoe.zip

ALOLA!:
https://mega.nz/#!ABsWQTbY!d1ILUTYt2IyO6hW97_Jk8YY9BVuvEdrHAu8J2uMwYR0
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>people love new season now

What the fuck happened
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>>30052212
They realized it wasn't entirely the "lel funne moments" the trailers had advertised by actually watching the damn thing.
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>>30052183
>Don't like touching Pokémon
>Go to school to learn about Pokémon

Okay
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>>30052212
They dont, they just like the new girls, and the dick is stronger.

And they said Serena is waifu bait.
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>>30052212
Stockholm syndrome
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>>30052183
>link to old thread goes to VGC general
Time for you to commit sudoku, OP
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>>30052212
I just watch for the Z-Moves and already got disappointed by how the 2nd episode's wasn't nearly as good as the 1st
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>>30052212
Dumb frogposter.
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>>30052266
>>30052222
CHECKED
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>>30052212
>Frogposter thinks he's in any position to call anything shit
Fuck off
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If Serena appears in S/M and flirts with Ash, will Lillie or Mallow get jealous?
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Serena who?
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https://twitter.com/AshandSerena/status/800180642117926914

this triggers the serenafags
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>>30052183
Old thread:
>>30047342
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>>30052183
>filename
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>>30052388
>>30052439
Fuck off Ash
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>>30052439
Because she's in love.
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Threadly reminder that TPCI are hacks for our newfags and dubfags
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz5IHg4r4ME&feature=youtu.be
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Holy shit literally 10/10 episode
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>>30052191
>>"Good Rotomorning, I am the Rotom Zukan, Roto!"
Stopped reading there, this season is dead.
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>>30052439
Get out from /padt/ Ash, now is Aino's anime.
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>>30052499
SM Anime and its dub are going to be overrated for a while, trust me, it won't be for another 15 or so episodes before it begins to lose steam fast and people realize it's not as good as they feel it is.

Also that title reads like something TPCi would shit out, which is not good. Seems like the dub is forcing the Japanese Version to dumb itself down, honestly.
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>>30052499
That phrasing is literally taken from the games. It's not just a random pun the anime writers pulled out of their asses.
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>>30052585
Oh, I thought they were going full TPCi-like myself, good to know that's not the case: still, easily the worst title of the 4 for SM so far.
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>>30052246
She believes the more she knows about pokemon the more courage she will get to overcome her fear.
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>>30052616
Ick. I honestly don't think the SM Anime is as good as people are hyping it up to be one bit: I'm not saying it's bad, but it's overrated so far.
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>>30052246
>don't like
She can't touch them, that's different.
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When will the Alola Vulpix egg hatch?
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>>30052655
She must get it first and the egg Ash delivered is not Alolan Vulpix's egg.
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>>30052638
it's pretty good so far
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The Pokemon Center stores in Japan are doing a big Alola Vulpix event in December, I expect Alola Vulpix to debut in Christmas or around that time.
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Just started watching this and the show gives me the impression both Mallow and Lillie like Ash. Is this confirmed?
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Will Mallow end up with a Tsareena? Cause I am loving that mon so far

SUCK IT SABLEYE
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>>30052703
Thanks for proving my point: being comedic and overly goofy 90% of the time doesn't necessarily make it charming, especially since this type of Ash was more fleshed out in OS already.
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>>30052750
She will evolve it to Steenee, I doubt we will see Tsareena.
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>>30052716
Cool
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You're fully in charge for the inevitable anime "relaunch" late next year to advertise Stars. What changes do you do?
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>>30052741
Nope.
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>>30052716
>tfw trying to get snow warning vulpix
This fucking game
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>>30052716
You can't get it normally?
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>>30052741
Mallow likes Ash but not lillie. A show producer said so on twitter.
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>>30052799
Force the animators to draw Satoshi as cute as he is really meant to be
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>>30052799
Pokemon + Aikatsu Stars crossover
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>>30052780
Despair..but also...despair
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>>30052799
Satoshi goes out to travel through Alola. The companions are Lillie and the newly introduced Chicken-chan. Satoshi does the comedic relief stuff while Lillie and Chicken are yuriyuri with each other.

>>30052814
>>30052816
It's a merchandise event, "Alola Rocon Ice Festival".
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>show producer said so on twitter

This is probably one of my favorite memes in recent history
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>>30052859
>Chicken-chan
>not Serena dressed up in Chicken-chan's clothes
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>>30052492
Finally others see the light.

If only pokemon was consistently this good. A fork in the road is also 10/10 material.
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>>30052881
Who are you quoting dumbshit
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>>30052764
What are you talking about? People liked how the first episodes have a few "overly goofy" moments since that was the main prediction about the series.
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>>30052894
>defiling based Selene/Moon with old and busted Serena

You sit in the time out corner and think about what you've done
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>>30052833
>Mallow likes Ash but not lillie

Why?

You'd figure they'd be the opposite, with Mallow as the genki sidekick and Lillie as the shy love interest.
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>>30052901
>watching the dub
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You don't deserve a (you) for your meme
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>>30052901
All team rocket episodes are literally perfect in XY so far, 13 more episodes of XY to go now.
Hows XYZ?
I miss Kalos even though Sun Moon are fun
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>>30052932
It's a troll
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>>30052833
>A show producer said so on twitter
Yeah, you are just spouting bullshit.
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>>30052901
Um, what episode was this guys?
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>>30052932
It's pretty evident from watching the first 2 episodes where the relationship is heading. It's another way for producers to have a grip on a section of the audience.
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>>30052412
Will Ash and Lillie have jellyfish babies by the end of the series?
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>>30052906
I did too, but it's not going to work well in the long run: people are going to tire of this Series quickly, mark my words.
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Have you guys seen the new movie? One of my favourites of all I've seen in pokemon. I enjoyed it a lot.
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>>30052951
>Hows XYZ?
They get a really solid one where they fight Team Flare and Zygarde, but they don't do too much outside of that. Chances are they were meant to play a bigger role than they ended up doing, the end of XY&Z feels rather rushed.
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>>30053001
>new
It's half a year old.
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>>30052951
>All team rocket episodes are literally perfect in XY
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>>30052961
Pokeball Factory.
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>>30053001
The dub was fairly bad as usual (Eggman as Volcanion is a wtf), I'll say that much: I have to watch it in Japanese again because I liked it there, but the dub killed it for me.
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>>30053015
You think you know everything dont you Tyrone?
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>>30052987
and what makes you think that? If anything people must be tired of watching the same badget quest for 19 years only to see Ash losing yet again at the end of the season.
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>>30052984
Lille isn't a jellyfish m8
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>>30053053
>watching the dub
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>>30053002
I meant XYZ as a whole but at least they get a good fight episode
>>30053024
I will fight you
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>>30052951
>All team rocket episodes are literally perfect in XY
You don't actually believe that, do you? There are some good episodes but they are their worst in XY.
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>>30052979

Oh well. At least Ash will have another love interest this season which is fine by me.
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>>30053001
It was better than Diancie's movie, and I can't comment on Hoopa's.

I loved Volcanion and Magerna though.
The villain, whose name escapes me was an irredeemable piece of shit and I'm glad he got his in the the end
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>>30053057
We were, but this was not what people wanted in its place: Ash being dumbed down to generic schoolkid was not a good move and it'll show in time how much interest will diminish if little is done to expand a bit outside of this.
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So is this guy a butt-fondler gay or what?
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>>30053094
(you)
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>>30053108
Even when I was a kid watching Hoenn, I knew this dude was gay as hell
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>>30053101
You seem to be speaking for a lot of invisible people.
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>>30052951
>>30052951
>All team rocket episodes are literally perfect in XY so far
Anon, did you even see that awful CHA CHA CHA evolution episode?
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>>30053081
This guy gets it, >>30053073 does not.
SM has the potential to have a shittier TR than XY, though, we'll see because that preview was NOT a good sign.
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>>30053101
They will obviously expand it, anyone who played the games know it also started in school in preparation for the trials which is what Ash said he wanted to do.
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>pic related
>The 'her' part plays while Lillie is on screen

What did they mean by this.
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>>30053073
XY&Z has them in a very classic role, with wacky disguises, a long motto sequence and even a boss fantasy, if that's your thing.
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>>30053134
Keep telling yourself that, buddy. Hypocritical that you guys wouldn't let OS or BW get away with half the shit you do with SM already, honestly.
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>>30053136
>awful
It's fun, fuck you
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>>30053145
She plays part of the villain in the games.
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>>30053145
but who was pokemon?
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Why is it called a Z-Move? Why not use a superlative adjective like "Ultra Move" or "Ultimate Move"?
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>>30052940
it has the same title in japanese you dumb weeb
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>>30053145
They meant you're reaching too hard
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>>30053142
Then I'm interested, but I have a bad feeling Team Rocket are really going to be at their worst here in SM, and yes, that means even worse than in XY.
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>>30053145
The full line is
>The sun and the moon and the Pokémon and her want to go on an intriguing adventure... it seems
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>>30053175
Because they represent the end of a Pokemon when their opponent gets hit by it
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>>30053101
>We were, but this was not what people wanted in its place
speak for yourself m8 I was optimistic from the beginning and it sure as hell didn't fail for me

also you don't need to add : to everything you say, it just makes you come off as a twat

>>30053163
SM didn't make Ash lose his first battle
SM didn't give us shit companions
SM hasn't completely fucked up the plot yet after a disaster
SM kept Based Ash who wants to learn more
SM knows what it's doing

have some faith anon, don't be a narcissist
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>>30052492
Which episode number was this?
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>>30053175
Because that's how they named it in the games, also to remind people there will never be a pokemon Z game.
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>>30053176
You don't have to be a weeb to know how awful TPCi's dub is, Anon.
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>>30053176
The Japanese version doesn't have a CN logo you dumb burger
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>>30053205
>they represent the end of a Pokemon
What? What "end"?
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>>30053224
Bottom left?
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>>30052703
Deja vu
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>>30053211
>SM didn't give us shit companions
let me rephrase that, it didn't give us another Iris

Cilan is a bro
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>>30053249
jigglypuff
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>>30052212
Most people know SM is shit but they know they're stuck with it for 3 years and don't want to drop the show because they're too invested into it. It's like coping with having cancer or something.
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>>30053258
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>>30053246
When they faint and are unable to battle
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>>30053211
I'll give it a shot, but I'm so "meh" on SM so far, it hurts: I don't hate it, but I just don't care for it either, so far.

And the shit companions part is purely subjective as well, so...
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>>30053175
I'm gonna assume cause of Zygarde and to cover for the fact that the only "Pokemon Z" we got was in the anime.

Look at how huge that fucking "Z" is. They're screaming at you that this is your "third game"
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>>30053275
This fat fuck is going to be the most annoying part of the new series. I can just feel it.
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>>30053191
Probably but I feel like they are going to be more irrelevant than ever and probably we won't see her interacting with Ash and co since Team Skull has the role of troublemakers.
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Miss me yet?
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>>30053246
He means finishing moves.
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>>30053293
He's tons better than having Lillie in this show and you know it
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>>30053284
Speaking of Season 19, it's got to be the Pokemon dub at its absolute worst:

>Shittiest intro ever in the form of "Stand Tall"

>Worst censorship in the history of dub with 12 minutes changed worth of images

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz5IHg4r4ME

>Worst voice acting in the dub like 17 & 18

>Worst script writing in the dub since DP dub
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>>30053317
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>>30053317
When Lillie turns into a fat fuck herself and gets this weird trollish sounding voice, then sure, he'll be better. Until then, no.
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>>30053317
Are you one of the 58 who voted for him?
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>>30053270
Yeah I'm trying to watch it and I just can't. It's worse than DP. Completely uninteresting to any thinking person. Where pokemon from the start had a much more interesting theme and feel. This is the final abandonment of anything that isn't catching and battling pokemon.

Shudo rolls in his grave.
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>>30053145
>Pikachu: the fuck is wrong with this bitch.
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>>30053294
Then I will actually be very excited for the SM Series if so: the less of Team Rocket, the better for me.
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Lana is best still, right?
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>>30053293
I didn't think he was annoying in the first two episodes
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>>30053258
I've just been in this place before!
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>>30053331
Didn't you already post this?
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Post yfw he cucks Ash again
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>>30053307
>five edgemons and an unfeazant

>>30053317
Lillie is fine as long as Cosmog doesn't show up and her every sentence becomes "muh nebby"

>>30053346
>implying DP was shit
Them's fightin words boy
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>>30053365
Truly a man of action.
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>>30053365
His voice sounds like Gollum's. It doesn't fit.
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>>30053371
Some of us don't live on this website
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>>30053346
Season 1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXAgtpZRBGw

S&M:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTkebZscu1g&t=131s

There's a glaring difference regardless of how one feels on the latter- I don't even hate the SM saga so far, yet I can see Season 1 clearly had more to it.
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>>30053346
>It's worse than DP
It's really nice when you can safely disregard a post when you see it.
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>>30053395
Not really, the dub's voice for Greninja sounds like Gollum, not Nip Sophocles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoLlzpuME0U
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>>30053390
Underage please go. DP was incredibly formularic, dull and low effort.
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>>30053346
>It's worse than DP
Of course, it would be a surprise if SM is even capable to be better than BW.
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>>30053437
>wah wah I cant downvote opinions I hate: the post
That's what you sound like.
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>>30053461
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>>30053408
Season 1 had a lot of truly heartbreaking moments that not even XY had but that doesn't make it a good season otherwise you will see people ranking highly in those rankings that have it as the third or second worst season.
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>>30053461
So was XY, and yet the two sagas are lauded as the best by the fandom...I don't get it.
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>>30053461
The DP fillers were shit, mostly. However, there were not many of them and what wasn't filler was mostly gold.
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>>30053408
>the overwhelming wave of nostalgia that hit me within the first three minutes of that OS clip

God dammit, I didn't ask for this
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>>30053479
I'm sorry you have shit taste, anon.
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>>30053376
>yfw it's four seasons before we hear from him again.

Hopefully he comes back with a less gay scarf.
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>>30053505
Difference is XY at least had high effort animation and some pretty good and interesting episodes. DP was just trash.
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>>30053505
You feel that way because you're 20 yrs old. You'll grow up one day.
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>>30053500
What does a good season have in it, though? Season 1 has a more tolerable Team Rocket than for the entire rest of the Series, Brock wasn't useless fodder like he was in late AG & especially DP, and Misty didn't get sidelined until mid-Johto, either.

Ash was actually a rookie back then so his naivety could be passed off as that: now, though...not so much.
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>>30053376
Do you think he ended up with Tobias?
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Why did it take Alan 3 years to realise he had everything he ever needed in life right there with him from the start?
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>>30053566
What do you think Alan and Manon are doing right now?
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>>30053553
Tobias is too much for Alain.
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I already like SM more than XY and BW desu
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>>30053528
Speaking of things that completely dropped the ball, which loss was more soul crushing? DP or XY
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>>30053408
>I'm Ash from pallet town and I'm destined to be the world's #1 pokemon trainer.

It cuts deep.
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>>30053539
I blame TPCi's shitty dub for people getting the wrong idea about the DP & XY Arcs, considering both are the English dub at its absolute worst (the former in terms of script writing and Brock's horribly changed voice, the latter in terms of literally everything else). You CANNOT appreciate DP & XY unless you watch them in their Original Japanese Format for what they are.
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>>30053588
God fucking damn, now I want an alternate ending where Alain fucks Ash into third place and and Tobias shows up and cucks him in the finals.
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>>30053586
Procreating
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>>30053590
XY. At least you knew Tobias was unbeatable, Alan was just a chuuni prick who Swanna Girl could have beaten with her eyes closed. Ash only lost because executive.
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what are you looking Pikachu?
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>>30053606
>watching the dub
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>>30053362
She always will be
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>>30053635
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>>30053623
This, Ash at least fucked up a legendary, Alain showed up with his weak as fuck Charizard and was written to win against Greninja
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Lillie best waifu.

Come at me.
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>>30053602
>>30053519
This thread has good taste- I like you guys already.
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>>30053672
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>>30053362
Now can a "girl" that looks like a boy ever come close to being good enough to beat the blonde feminine beauty?
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>>30053546
More importantly, the theme of the show is discovering the world of pokemon through the eyes of a boy. original Ash embodied this perfectly, and they have to keep it because if he grows and changes as a character they can't advertise so effectively, and the theme becomes muddled. Regardless if it doesn't make any sense.

His original personality has also gotten completely lost, he's just an empty shell these days. Even in XY, why do you think people call him battle robot 9000? Because his fanboyish aspirations of being a master have completely taken over as the only aspect to his character other than just doing the right thing.

OS Ash could be selfish and stubborn. And he constantly struggled with his desire to care for pokemon and his desire to win the league. He puts the welfare of his team over winning or having the best composition or strategy and all that, which holds him back. All of that is gone in favor of the battle robot.

The worth of a human should not be reduced to battling pokemon.
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>>30053617
Manon doesn't even know the world is round. How could she possibly understand how procreation works?
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>>30053674
It's Ash's fault for fucking up that badly. Also, a tough-claws X-Zard almost always OHKO's a non-specially defensive Greninja with Dragon Claw
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>>30053175
Zenryoku
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>>30053727
She doesn't need to.
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>>30053718
Those are not panties, it's her dress.
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Is the anime stuck on a cycle of DPs and BWs?
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>>30053739
>implying someone from the crown didn't shoot greninja
Zard would have been OHKO'd by a single water attack
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>>30053761
No.
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>>30053722
>His original personality has also gotten completely lost, he's just an empty shell these days.
This, this is why I'm really not all that hyped about SM Ash right now: don't hate the guy, but doesn't seem like the same character he was at his best personality wise.

Absolutely agreed.
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>>30053759
You're blind
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>>30053674
>>30053623

Nice b8
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>>30053773
Not unless he got lucky with a 5 hit Shuri. The normal 3 hit would've probably left him just under half.
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>>30053635
>Pikachu: She doesn't use underwear, like Dawn.
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>>30053827
Go to bed Manon
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>>30052388
Fucking Serena
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>>30053739
IIRC, Charizard had already taken a tbolt from Pikachu, and Greninja got several solid hits in.

Also Ash Greninja hits like a motherfucking train

Even on top of all of that, the "Z move" should have landed the KO.
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>>30053754
LEWD

post more
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>>30053743
W-Why not?
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>>30053754
Those are not marshmallows
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>>30053823
No, you are blind her legs are coming out of her dress.
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>>30053799
And now I'm just gonna rant because N is the most intensely interesting character they've had in the anime yet and I'm super duper salty about them fucking it up as bad as they did.

They even have it as an episode title "the clash of ideals". N who wants to end cockfighting and free pokemon, Ash who is the ultimate tool of the league. But there is no clash in the actual episode, they completely dance around the issue when they could challenge Ash's ideas about battling and winning, by appealing to his care for his pokemon. And conversely N would also be challenged by the idea that a battling trainer could also care as deeply for pokemon as he does. They kinda do this, but it only falls flat.

Reeeeeeeeeeee
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>>30053895
As long as Alan knows, everything is daijoubu
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>>30053672
Ponytail Lillie was the definitive model, where is it?
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>>30053754
Hot
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>>30053606
I remember finding the sub of DP by accident. Watched every subbed episode and dropped the dub entirely.

I don't think I missed much by watch OS and AG dubbed, watched DP and XY subbed, and skipping BW entirely.
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>>30053875
If Ash didn't make his pokes mixed attackers, he would've won. That's part of his massive fuckup I originally referred to
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>>30053868
>>30053875

Same Charizard that

>Took super effective participle blades from primal groudon and survived
>Beat an E4 member's ace that resisted it's attacks after beating 9 mega pokemon in a row


That Charizard is a fucking powerhouse in all respects, strength, stamina, speed, everything.

It made perfect sense for it to be A. Greninja's downfall
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>>30053606
The dub doesn't change anything. It's not the fucking movie. The nip voices are probably better but that doesn't really improve the substance of it.
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>>30053989
>survived Groudon
>got knocked the fuck out
Ash probably would have beaten it since it wasn't a league.
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>>30053957
That's exactly what the story was for me as well.

You didn't, that's honestly the right pathway to go with the Anime in my eyes, though I watched BW subbed as well but that was probably TPCi's least casualty (though they still fucked up Da! so...).
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>>30054010
The dub changed a lot in both DP and XY Sagas: Ash talked in slang frequently in both, Team Rocket talk in rhymes, alliterations, slang (Meowth's "Dig it, jack," "Oy vey," "Lugs" etc.), only 40% of the Japanese OST was kept in DP's dub and 10% in XY's dub, the intros were half the length in both & changed, and as you've said, the voice acting in Nip is significantly above the dub talent for both sagas.

If there's any sagas the Pokemon dub absolutely butchered, it's DP & XY.
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>>30054016
>Completely ignoring the E4 ace
>Ignoring that it survived after being hit with a SE signature move from what is essentially a mega legendary
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>>30054056
Neither of those are impressive feats at all, an average trainer could do that no problem.
>>
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>>30053931
Nah, man, let it out...I actually agree with you completely on Anime N...
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>>30054056
You know you are arguing with a literal drone, right?
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>>30053989
Not to mention that Ash's Greninja was most likely a physical attacker. The Shuris probably did garbage damage
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So, Adamant will be subbing SM first then the rest of XYZ?
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I get the feeling than even anime Lillie will be super popular herself. I can see Alola Vulpix debut being the stand-out episode of the first batch if they play it more for adorable/touching moments than for comedy.
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>>30053940
>Alan tells Manon he needs her help to "mega evolve"
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>>30054140
Nah
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>>30054023
I lost a lot of my interest after snivy, dropping it a few episodes after the first gym. Watched some of Da! for Noivern. They really wanted to go straight into Kalos.
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DORAGON KUROU
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>>30054121
He said the other day they'd be working on both.
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>ITT: Wasted designs
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>>30054140
Just being a pale blonde main girl gives her a massive boost in popularity.
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>>30054155
Yes, Alola Rocon debut will be a tear-jerker.
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>watched the subs
>see pic related
Are they REALLY referring to Lillie here? Or is this a reference to the "under that girl's skirt" joke from Mezase Pokemon Master?
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>>30054105
I know, but it was fun
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>>30054201
Lillie will be the travel companion confirmed.
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>>30053528
DP in Japanese is great. You must have watched the dub. Aside from Brock, Kenny, and some dull eps toward the middle/tail-end, DP had a lot of well done arcs.
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>>30054192
>yfw it coincides with a sad Eggs episode and an equally sad Idle episode.
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>>30054265
Well that seems very very obvious at this point. I really can't figure out who will be the male partner. The way they worded it in Episode 2 definitely makes it seem like he will be taking the Island Challenge, meaning all the Trial Captains (Lana, Kiawe, Mallow, and Sophocles included of course) would need to be included. And well, those are the only characters other than Ash and Lillie, and Kukui and Oak of course but that would be really weird. So, uh, yeah, any ideas?
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>>30054160
Goddamn I already miss the shonen or even quasi-seinen feel of the Mega Evolution stuff we got in XY and XY&Z. I always wanted a more cerebral, complex Pokemon anime, and I'm sad that it didn't carry over into SM.
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post things you want
>Ash is an UB magnet for some reason
>Guzma recognizes Ash from his leagues and wants him to join team skull because of it
>Pikachu is immediately distrustful of Lusamine
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>>30054327
SM could still turn into One Piece-style adventure comedy promotional shounen.
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>>30054368
Emotional*
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>>30054319
They all travel together, and when they reach the trial site the one of captains help Ash to complete the tasks. After that Ash battles the totem and gets the Z-crystal. Rinse and repeat.
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What was Kukui's Fifth Surprise?
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>>30054368
I guess. I don't want a ton of superficial slapstick comedy like we've got so far.
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>>30054414
The rotomdex
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>>30054355
I want for skull to be total wiggers like they are in the games. Their dialouge is the funniest stuff I've seen in the games in a long while.

This will not happen because I don't think the JPN staff is versed enough in African American culture enough to do such a thing, and because the US staff is literally middle aged white people.

Despair, but also...despair
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>>30054355
>pantsu
>Poplio and Lana entering Super Contests for DP remakes where all my favorite girls from XY return to compete
>more Sophocles fat jokes
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>>30054355
You realize Lusamine is either going to be handled extremely differently from the games, or it'll come out that Aether are the bad guys straight away, right? I mean it's REALLY obvious that Lillie's going to be the female companion for this series of some capacity.
>>30054406
I thought of that myself, and really it is a possibility. But they're all wearing the Trial Captain symbol thingy.
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>>30054406
I hope the wishiwashi fight is exciting at least.
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>>30054355
If anyone mentions the Kalos League, I'm going to happy. Just say something about Ash's performance there and I'll be happy.
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Most captains are just glorified guides in the games anyway. I don't see why they couldn't all travel together.
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What i'm confused about is why are trial captains in school.
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>>30054355
OK here are my hopes for much much later in the series.
>inevitable DP remakes happen
>they finally decide to do the Sinnoh Battle Frontier
>at some point Alan and Manon and Sycamore appear to help Ash with Mega Evolving one of his Pokemon since he basically has a Mega Ring now
I know it sounds like a long-shot but wouldn't this be cool?
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>those crooked looking smiles on Ash and Pikachu's faces
How the hell was this crappy sketch work rescued from the cutting room floor?
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>>30054327
yeah that always bothered me, in the anime they aren't really bound by the rules of the game so much, so the battles can be really clever, Pikachu's improv tail stand thing from the early OS comes to mind.

The TCG is based on magic, which has a lot of stacking effects and unique abilities that let you plan out and be clever also.

But the actual games themselves are just bog standard shitty turn based jrpg sludge.
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Marijuana is a hell of a drug
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I just don't feel like Ash looks imposing at all with this art style. The way he was drawn in XY and XY&Z was so much crisper, sharper. This art style in SM makes him look like a joke.
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>>30054626
I think it looks cute
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>>30054741
Delete this!
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>>30054741
the animation isn't even that good to make up for it like people claim
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>>30053754
It begins.
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Gouguru Serena actually did it, the absolute madwoman!
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>>30054741
I can't really imagine the dances in the XY style.
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>>30054807
Was two series' worth of animation and art budget used in XY&Z alone or something?
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legs
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>>30054327
>even quasi-seinen feel of the Mega Evolution stuff we got in XY and XY&Z

Lol come on man.
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>best Japanese voice
>best French voice
>best feet
>best girl
>action girl
>most likely to win Ash
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>>30054741
His face looks like he has the downs or something.
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>>30054831
>And the next time we meet, I'll have become a much more bigger woman.
I'm dying

And I totally called he'd turn the kissu into procreation in public. There's not much else that would be suitably lewd
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>>30054831
What did she do? Also this is too lewd.
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>>30054831
Translators! I choose YOU!
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>>30054929
>Lol
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>>30054951
>>30054954
That's the punchline >>30054946

So yeah, she impregnated herself on him

I can give this one an early full translation tomorrow I guess
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Ash looks like he has a mustache here.
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>>30054988
Lewd.

And based
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>>30054988
>I can give this one an early full translation tomorrow I guess
Adamant pls, isn't it like 7:00 in the morning in Norway right now?
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>>30054831
I have no idea what is happening here.
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What would be the perfect ending for SM in your opinion?
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>>30055080
>>30054988
Oh. Nevermind. I get it.
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>>30055080

Serena sexually assaulted a mentally disabled child
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>>30055086
a bit too early to tell, don't you think? Ash winning league maybe.
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>>30054951
>"Hey Satoshi, can I see your 'pocket monster' really quick?"
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>>30054831
There was literally no way this would end any other way.
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>>30054988
>The reason Goguru Misty stopped traveling with Ash is because he got her preggers too
Ash must be stopped, before his dick can entice all the women!
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>>30054584
Because they could be studying to become one. It was said Kiawe passed a test to get his Z ring but that would mean he is not necessarily a trial captain yet.
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When is Ash going to get the Pikashunium Z
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>>30055086
Future Ash comes through the Ultra Wormhole and pulls S/M universe Ash into the Ultra Dimension where every other Ash from the other dimensions have teamed up in order to become the greatest Pokemon Master ever

So like Ultimate Spiderman except it'll be called Ultimate Satoshi
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>>30054831
I really can't wait for him to tackle Alola!
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>>30055163
Where would he get that? Actually it would be a good idea if Ash go for the normal crystals first then for the specific ones.
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>>30055196
He's doing the XY&Z specials first
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>>30055239
but why?!
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>>30053875
Not just a tbolt, that fucker took at least 3 or 4 hits from the same pikachu who soloed a fucking Tyranitar and a Metagross. Aside from the almost 10 hits it took from A-Greninja(the beggining was even in rain dance wasn't it?).
He should have been KO'd before the orange shuriken was even used really.
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I'm a retard, how do subs work? I downloaded the "SM1 SUBS" torrent from the OP, but there don't seem to be subtitles outside of the theme song. I've had this problem before.

Help me, /vp/, you're my only hope. What am I doing wrong?
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Man, I know there's always been differences between characterization in the anime and games, but having played it now, Lillie in the anime is like the polar opposite of Lillie in the games in terms of personality and behavior.
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>>30055313
you have them turned off. check the options in the player you're using
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>>30055313
Which video player are you using? You've most likely set it to not display subtitles by default.
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>>30055338
>>30055342
oh my god now I feel even more stupid. thanks!
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So, I haven't played the games yet and I'm curious...what's the story with Top Keko? Why did it help Ash in the first episode, and what kind of relationship will it have with him the rest of the series?
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>>30055439
He is probably messing around with him. It looks like he won't be that relevant for the rest of the seires.
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>>30055439
TopKek likes strong battlers
Ash probably fits the mold that he likes
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>>30053674
>weak as fuck Charizard
His Charizard beat 10 megas in a row, including an Elite 4's.
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>>30055535
>mega's
>hard
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>>30055514
It feels almost too much like a ripoff of Froakie "choosing" Ash after watching him while hidden in the foliage.
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>Lillie's overwhelming popularity in JP Twitter
I'm expecting a Lillie Nendroid by next year at the latest.
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KAPU KOKEKO
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>>30055577
Maybe once Lillie actually starts making physical contact with Pokemon routinely and says more than a dozen lines, I'll take a liking to her.
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>>30055577
But of course. Look at how hard she's being shilled in the games.
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>watching the 1 hour special
>the show looks like its going to be ok
>the battles will probably be a far cry from the dynamic XY ones

I think it'll be a fun watch overall, but the second they get lazy with battles, I think we're going to be in swooshy background purgatory.

>>30054831

>tfw never felt bad about Serena leaving until this artist saw her off with an XY tribute

I'm sad now.
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>>30055577
What's the tag for Lillie? I don't get why she's so popular? Decent design sure, but she's just another blonde girl.
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>>30055613
>she's just another blonde girl
Because that. And her role.
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>>30055610
>the battles will probably be a far cry from the dynamic XY ones
You can't be serious, if anything there is big possibility the battles would be even better than the ones in XY. You can even see the difference in animation in SM opening with the Greninja vs Sceptile fight in XYZ OP.
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>>30055613
She is the game's main heroine/co-protagonist.
http://pokemon-matome.net/articles/124426.html
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>>30055692
But will we even get a lot of battles in SM? There's no Gyms, most of the island challenges are not battles, and I don't know how often we'll see Ash or the other characters in serious battles.
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>>30055613
She's Pokemon's Anal Idol
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>>30055613
>blonde
>white
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>>30055744
The trials will be battles, Kiawe already explained the test to get a Z ring was hard enough already and we still have the Kahunas, totem pokemon and a possible league.
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>>30055815
The "test' literally consisted of Ash ordering a few attacks from his Pikachu. That's not that difficult.
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>>30055744
There games have 7 totems battles and 4 kahunas battles.

If the anime does the same the lack of gyms will mean literally nothing.
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>>30055692
OP animation doesn't indicate quality of battles. Battles will probably still be good though.
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>>30055845
Aren't the totems just battling a wild strong pokemon? I can't see the anime doing that, it wouldn't make much sense.
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>>30055856
You just lack imagination
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>TFW Discover Guzma's backstory
kinda reminds me of what the original plan for Ash was
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BURASUTO BAAN when?
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>>30055936
Alan pls leave, Manon has been looking for you.
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>>30055856
Indeed, they wont have an entire episode devoted to battling one wild Pokemon, so the totem battles can be disregarded.

As far as major battles go, that means we have a grand total of 4 Kahuna battles to look forward to in a 3 year span. SM will probably be the series with the most fillers and least amounts of significant battles.

Eh, this is probably why SM will be one of the least liked series once it has wrapped up.
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Anyone else bitter that Misty and Brock were the only companions to last multiple generations? Every main character from AG onward has left as soon as their series ended.

Misty was a main for 275 episodes, and Brock has somewhere around 600+ episodes. Why did they get so many episodes?
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>>30055958
Fuck off, Scott.
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>>30055946
It was always going to be hard to top XY and XY&Z. It would be a shame if SM were to fall THAT much in quality, though.
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>>30055946

"One wild Pokemon"

You DO realize Totem Pokemon calls for help and utilize strategies? They're also more powerful forms a typical wild Pokemon.

The Totem Pokemon ALREADY sound more interesting than a boring gym battle.
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>>30056001
It will very likely top it in terms of humor, and the supporting cast in SM seems nice so far.
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>>30055946
I wish they just didn't give a series a goal once.
If they just left Ash's goal to be to have fun at school, we wouldn't have to hear shit about filler this and filler that for once
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>>30056035
>It will very likely top it in terms of humor
Humor is neither necessary nor sufficient to be a good series.
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>>30056001

Oh yes, because it will be soooo difficult to top waifucontests, Clemont being fucking useless and Serena fawning over Ash every two seconds.
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>>30055946
>Indeed, they wont have an entire episode devoted to battling one wild Pokemon

>group reach the trial site
>Ash has to do some quest to get access to the Totem Pokémon
>after some lelsorandumb jokes he finally gets there
>battle the Totem Pokémon and its lackeys that could very well pull the same bullshit strategies they do in the games
>manage to defeat all of them and get the Z-Crystal
>episode ends

It has the potential to be more interesting than watching a traditional badge quest for the 7th fucking time.
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>>30056046
humor>action
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>>30056060

XYfags will never admit it.

Their precious XY is somehow best series ever despite being mediocre at best.
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>>30056060
I'll believe it when I see it.

>>30056062
More power to you, then.
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>>30056069
If SM could be like XY, I'd trade it in an instant.
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>>30056093
Well, I'm glad they decided not to pander to people like you and made SM as different from XY as they could.
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>>30056127
Its unfortunate. SM seems OK so far, but in terms of Ash XY was the direction to go.
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Who is the main Pokegirl of SM?
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>>30056196
For the game it's Lilie. For the anime it's Mallow.
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>>30056204
She looks like a Corni clone.
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>>30056196
Mallow for now

Lillie after Ash decides to travel
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>>30056223
>>30056223
>>30056223
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>>30056204
>Lillie carries a cute and useless legendary in her bag
>in the middle of the story she goes through CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT and change her entire appearance
Lillie is literally a ripoff of the XY anime
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>>30053307
DORAGON KUROU
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>>30053606

>considering both are the English dub at its absolute worst

They were at their worst under 4kids.
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>>30056001
SM is already better.
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