/pmdg/ - Pokemon Mystery Dungeon

Side topic: Favorite hold item that isn't the Tight Belt?

>>29172194
goggle specs

>>29172194
X-Ray specs because I like seeing where everything is.

>>29172194
Friend Bow. Firstly, the idea of a bow that makes people more likely to join your crusade is hilarious. It must be really snazzy. Secondly, it's super-useful.

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Kek.TR memes aside,have you read a PMD fanfic recently?

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>>29172455
Shame it's not the best in explorers

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Poochyena is cute! CUTE!!

>>29169459
This would make the ending more heart breaking tbqh

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Otp inbound

>>29168403
>To they indicate what the Pokémon used to be before evolving? As in, if you change 0xA131A8 to Rayquaza's ID then you could "re"learn Rayquaza's moves?
Pretty much. While you could always just edit the moves manually, editing the values to give your mon movesets you want is also convenient, since you could easily relearn moves if you replace them by accident or something.

>tfw no bullet seed for Treecko

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Yurop. If a pokemon you recruited dies during the same exploration it was recruited is it lost or was that just a thing in R/B?

>>29168613
Basically, I used the PPMD tool from Project Pokèmon to unpack a copy of the ROM into a load of .xml files. I know where to find male and female Eevee data, and if I wanted, I could cut out the ability data entirely (or at least set it to null). Problem is, it's an address, and none of the other .xml files seem to have anything relevant.

>>29174408
Region only matters if you're playing SMD.

Also, as long as it joined your team, it'll stay recruited in Explorers

>>29175108
good to know

>>29171612
yo wait wtf, how do you trigger this event?

>>29175144
As far as I know it's totally random. Sometimes you'll just see Munchlax walking through the square. You can't recruit it, but if you have an Apple he'll give you a Munch Belt, which just ups your offenses and makes you hungry quicker. Nothing happened when I talked to him because i had only a Huge Apple, or because I already had a Munch Belt (from Purity Forest)

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>>29174408
Gotcha

>>29173295
>>29171226
The Chunsoft writers are good. They'll figure out a new way to inspire DESPAIR.

Maybe the remaining Duo hook up together, but they only ever really loved you. They end up okay and support each other, but not happy, you understand?

>tfw I won't be able to keep up with this general for the next seven weeks
Good luck with the fangame, /pmdg/. Sorry I can't help.

>>29175528
chunsoft wrote danganrompa

>>29175619
godspeed anon

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>>29175472
Oh wow that was fast. Can anyone can redeem these?

>>29175663
Yup, and PMD was already ultra dark even before Dang It Ron Paul. With a little work, they could even do some of the merchandising they did for that series to PMD. Thing is, I just like bringing it up to waifu/husbando fans because it is a good Monkey Paw topic.

"You will get your love story, but Chunsoft knows they can get away with darker things since no reviewer actually beats the game. Are you sure you want them to do it?"

Captcha just gave a city name sugggestion: Pleasentburgistan

Is ice shard worth it? It has only 3 stars power, is there something I'm missing?

>>29176205
Base move power means very little in Sky.

>>29175076
>Problem is, it's an address, and none of the other .xml files seem to have anything relevant.
An address? I'm confused, I thought you meant you were looking for the address of the code itself. I feel like I'm missing something here.

>>29168316
I was thinking that it wouldn't really be that surprising if the game actually could allow you to have more Pokémon than what the Connection Orb allows. Maybe the dialogue assigned to them is just an ID that you can actually edit, like the one you just found.

>>29172194
>using items
Go vanilla with 40 Reviver Seeds or bust.
Show us them mad skills.

>>29172194
I haven't given it much thought, but think I'm quite partial to the Mobile Scarf. It's so useful for getting through thin walls or over water.

>>29177625
>he doesn't have super mobile

>>29172194
I can't remember its name, but there was a scarf that turned all weather to normal

>>29177658
I've never even heard of that. Is that an IQ skill or an item?

>>29177784
lets you walk anywhere and break through walls. Called Absolute Mover in Sky, everything gets it at max IQ in RT, but only Palkia gets it in Sky

>>29175528
Wait hook up as in Dating or "we'll make it through together " kinda way? Also the remaining duo as Mc and partner or Partner 1 and 2?

>>29177873
Ah, that explains why I've never hear of it. I've never played RT, and I haven't gotten Palkia yet in Sky.

>>29177997
Remaining Duo as Partner 1 and Partner 2.

Because no one can be happy if Chunsoft has anything to say about it.

>>29173314
my otp is deerling x me

>>29178376
That sounds pretty good

>>29177205
Basically, the ability data is a hex-code reference to a different place in the code. That other place (probably) can dictate how the ability works. I don't know where that other place is.

>>29175872
I'd live in a place called PleasantBurgerstan

>>29180459
Probably in the rom.
What's the "hex-code" you're talking about.
Is it a two-letter one like 0xFF or some shit, or is it longer?
If it's just a max of two letters/numbers, it's a single byte value that is used as an id for an address or data table or some shit somewhere. If you can't find a table that has all the code addresses associated with each ability id, then you're probably fucked.
If it's longer like 0xFFFF or 0xFFFFFF or some shit, then it probably refers to an address in the rom itself, and the code it's running is at that position in the rom.

>>29178629
>>/o/ut
Must cherish first

>>29181480
>>>/o/ut

>>29180459
I'm still not completely sure what you mean though. I also just read your post on Project Pokémon and it cleared things up a little I guess.
I don't think the ability's behaviour itself is stored with the scripts (I think that's only for story and dialogues? I might be wrong though) and I doubt there's a way to go from the ability ID to the address in the code of the game without a debugger

>the ability data is a hex-code reference to a different place in the code
How do you know this? I thought they were IDs, that's probably why I'm confused

>>29181698
them being IDs means exactly that they point a different place in the code, even if the meaning is not exactly that, it essentially means the same.

>>29172459
Defenders of Warmth was okay/10

>>29182551
Oh, sorry, I get it now. So, as >>29180946 said (as it's just a byte) from the ID it would be possible to find the address for the code. It's clear now, thanks. Keep us updated if you manage to find it.

>>29172459
I've read the one I mentioned last thread and I'm planning to read Ears and Cherish soon

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>>29177205
The game actually does give you more slots/mons than what the Connection Orb allows, with the 3 Pelipper Island teammates and any helper mon you get from Streetpass and Wi-Fi. Not sure if it could actually work, but I was thinking that maybe it could be possible to write in mons with custom dialogue for partners due to the Wi-Fi helper system, and potentially make them permanent allies.

>>29184278
That would be great.

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Ever wonder how Wooper can use Wide Slash?

>>29184489
Those sick blades on its face, man.

>>29168316
I added them here http://pastebin.com/whz5DUmP

>play through the game for this first time
>get to eos
>get to the manaphy sequence
>the entire thing

FUCK YOU IM NOT CRYING YOURE CRYING

>>29185056
It happens to the best of us, anon

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Page 10 bump

>>29187342
looks comfy

>>29187431
I don't have it on this computer, but the anime usually has excellent city designs. The older movies have a great look to them.

>>29187342
What city is that? It looks like it could be Nimbasa.

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>>29173314
Bumping with cutest OTP!!

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Here's a possible route for the questionnaire to go. I still don't know what to with the Bug/Poison/Ghost route.

>>29189527
That's quite a fun questionnarie.

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>>29189672
That's the goal. After people pick the type, I'll leave it to others if they want it to RNG pick from one of the 4 choices.

>>29189817
Is Swablu a Normal, Flying, or Dragon?

>>29189527
>fire type wanting to go to the beach where there is a shitton of water

>>29190307
Looks like Swablu has been seated with the Dragons for now.

>>29190392
I'm used to having BBQs at the beach, and going to the Boardwalk, I decided to put it there.

As a Californian, I wouldn't want people to have campfires in the mountains for a long time.

>>29189527
>"Who need it?, It's just for a day..."
>"Suddenly a hornet comes close! What do you do?"
>"Try to befriend it" [Bug option]
>"Scare it away" [Ghost option]
>"Try to land a spit on it" [Poison option]

>>29189817
After doing the questionnaire, you can just wing it GtI style and let the player choose what he "sees" between the four of the type.

>>29189527
What kind of food did you bring?

>Bug
Some greens. Can't be too healthy!

>Ghost
Nothing. Just a refreshing drink is good for me.

>Poison
Desserts! I put them in baggies to protect them.

Yeah/nah?

>>29191245
>Select Spit Option
Feels like that one should receive some special response.

>>29191286
Change it to deep fried candy bars and I could see it becoming the poison option

>>29189817
>No Vulpix

Dropped

>>29172194
Stamina Band
:^)

>>29173473
>using Treecko

>>29191394
Optionally change Psychic and Poison and make the Psychic option be "run away really fast". But would still need a Poison option, maybe "throw junk at him".

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Bump~

>>29191669
>stop using what I don't like!

Why do all the looplets and treasures in SMD sell for jack shit. I go 41 floors into rough tunnel to get the shit never hungry item (no hunger from alliance moves, wow) and when I go to sell it that kikleon only wants to give me 500 for it? Fuck off buddy.

>>29191620
Limited slots, anon. It'd be worse to cut a starter just to shove Vulpix in, and adding a 5th choice would be overkill especially since types like Steel and Dragon don't have any other reps

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>>29195166
>No Phox

Dropped :^)

>>29195224
L-lewd!

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>>29195236
4 u anon :^)

What's the best MD story-wise?

>>29199824
Anything but Rescue Team and Adventure Squad are fair game.

>>29199893
>Anything but Rescue Team
The fugitive part and the legend were great and none of the later games tried to be better than that.

>>29199824
Meme answer is Explorers.
Good answers are RT, GtI and Super.
Probably the best answer is Sky special episodes.

>>29199824
Some of Sky's special episodes for having slightly interesting characters, or Rescue Team solely because the fugitives plotpoint is the only thing remotely original. While having alright characters, Gates' plot is rather basic, and while the start of Super is rather promising, everything falls off a cliff afterwards.
PMD plots in general are only good by Pokemon standards, they're rather average otherwise. Chunsoft can do much better, especially since games like Dangan exist.

anyone else notice vp was getting real lewd today

fuf comic, glaceon bdsm, what is this board coming to (hopefully red status)

>>29193573
>Praise the sun!

>>29203503
>/vp/ becomes red board
>Poochyena porn in every /pmdg/ thread
No thanks

>>29203658
i wouldnt mind but i see your point

though im really partial to cute lewds with the main characters

>>29203728
Unfortunately, you'd run into the 4chan problem that hits every site. As new people come in and see 'cute' lewds, they think they can post harder stuff. You'd end up with a gore thread as new people come in and talk about how violent and dark PMD is compared to the mainline.

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>Cute lewds
My man.

>>29204195
Dah fuck of course I fuck that up.

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>>29204195

>>29204195
.......
Espeon version
you know exactly why I'm asking

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>>29204474
I actually don't know, man. I just got it off one of those cute threads

>>29204195
Link to the original pic?

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>>29204555
That's the full pic, man, sorry.
The artist doesn't appear to make lewds

>>29204544
well, doesn't matter, I just feel like we need an Espeon version

>>29206064
CUTE!

Any cute lewds of Deerling? or Deerling and Turtwig ?

>>29208050
>>>/mlp/

I understand Deerling, but Turtwig doesn't exactly strike me as a Pokémon people would self insert as.

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>that horrifying moment when you think you have to fight kyurem by yourself

I've heard bad things about Gates, but aside from the fact you can't do more than one mission at a time and the choices of Pokemon being severely limited, I like it.
Snivy and Axew cutest duo.

>>29208369
Well, it's not too surprising considering it's a starter choice in PMD.

>>29209672
I don't what to be extra critical or anything, but I still don't see it.

I can understand if there was an attachment or it was your starter, but still. It doesn't have the same 'oomph' as becoming a fire breathing dragon with Charmander or an awesome Ninja with Treecko.

>>29208671
Only if snivy is the player and axew is the partner

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Not-Grovyle bump

>>29210330
Otp

>>29210330
But of course.

>>29209970
Well he was my MC during my play through he was also my /b/ro in Diamond and he was the TANK

>>29213139
Same here

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tiles, baby!
(grouping them into tile type mostly.)
this is going to be a pain to "automatically" arrange by hand after dungeon generation.

>>29214728
>"automatically" arrange by hand after dungeon generation.
What? Are you talking about setting tiles to the proper shape to go with the surrounding tiles or something else? because if that's it, that's extremely easy.

>>29214728
Quick question , instead of random generation within the game, could we also just make a bunch of maps with random spawn points?

>>29215924
it's not that it's hard, it's just tedious - at least the way I pretend to solve it. that's what makes it painful.
>>29215950
i mean sure why not but it's not really done at all oficially, isn't it?

>>29216006
How do you "pretend" to solve it?
Also if that other anon is talking about static floor maps, I think the Snes Shiren MD did that.
I read somewhere that it has a bunch of static maps for each area and when it loads a floor it just grabs on at random or something.

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>>29216006
I was going to mention that you check out XCOM2's Plot and Parcel Generation. Instead of being 100% random, they have a few big maps (the plot) and then move two or three specific areas within them (the parcel). They have some YouTube videos explaining it, but if you've almost got it done, it's okay.

>>29216098
I don't see why we wouldn't be able to.

as for the solution, tiles are one of three types
passable
solid
liquid (or lava or air or whatever)

and as far as I know, this means I can dungeon generate only thinking about these tile types then apply adjacency rules afterwards.

I give each one a prefix and add the adjacent tiles that are unlike the current type in a way that is has a grammar more or less like
> (p|s|w) u?d?l?r?
sort of, and check that against a lua hashed table
since updates are not every frame and maps aren't that big (no more than 100x100 anyway) speed is of no concern.

>>29216213
I've only just gotten started with grouping tiles.

>>29216362
Of course the solution is tentative. I'm already finding gaps in the way I'm thinking about it lol

>>29216362
Once you started talking about prefixes, you lost me. I've never used LOVE2d, so I don't know if that's something specific to that or some other programing technobabble I'm not familiar with.

Does your engine provide the ability for bit manipulation? When I check if a tile is a wall or floor or water, I just check a single bit associated with each type, and I have my tile ids sorted in a way to accommodate that system.
Any tile with the 5th bit set is a wall tile, and any without the 5th bit set, but with the 4th bit set is a fluid/air. if neither of those are set it's a floor or trap tile.
I also use bit manipulation in determining the tile's shape as well, but I won't go into that unless you want me to.
I don't know how your engine's tile system works, and you're tiles are also larger than mine, so you might need more variety for wall tiles and such, so this system may not work for you. I had to make my tile system from scratch.

>>29216847
My bad, yeah it's very similar to setting bits, except with strings.

I was about to say that lua 5.1 doesn't support binary operators, but then again, Love2D uses LuaJIT, and I actually can't be certain it doesn't, because LuaJIT adds a bunch of extensions to the language.

Thanks for the idea, actually.

>>29216944
If you can't do bit manipulation directly, you could always just check for ranges or something. With id's in a certain range, like 0-16 being floor tiles and so forth.
The function I use for determining the tiles shape could probably be easily modified to not use direct bit manipulation. Adding certain values can be the same as setting a certain bit.
I'm sure whatever system you're using will be fine though. You're not quite as limited as I am in what you can do and how much memory you can use, so you're probably fine with whatever it was you're planning on doing.

>>29216362
Apparently Love2D supports tiles with properties, so you can just generate the floor, check adjacency and set the mobility stuff for each tile in properties.

>>29217387
Well, it doesn't exactly handle tiles by default. Those are usually libraries, I think. Most of them use tiled, as well.

>>29217439
Tiled is pretty good, and could be used to map out premade rooms as well.

>>29217703
It's true, I'm using it on other projects but with the way I've laid out map data so far you'd only have three tiles and you'd let the engine fill in the details. I mean, it's still usable, but what you'd map in it would not be 100% representative of what the engine would render.

Of course, this is only strictly speaking about dungeons. Nothing yet about the overworld outside of dungeons. Perhaps tiled would be much more useful there.

Anyone have any Meowth replays they're willing to share?

Kind of wish the dungeons were as hard as Sacred Ruins, but it's still a good way to learn how to beat Level 5 dungeons easily.

>>29217824
I was thinking of a more exhaustive approach, setting up the movement properties for every single tile (all ground tiles, all wall tiles, all water tiles, all lavas tiles and all air tiles), generate floors as a table with only the tile type then finally make the actual floor letting the adjacency algorithm change things as needed.

>>29219077
Yeah, we're pretty much thinking the same, I think. If I understand you, your approach is allowing for more than one uh, "liquid" type. In my case, I'm assuming there's only one liquid type per map.

I'm going to start playing Super Mystery Dungeon, few questions:
1. How many dungeons are their?
2. How many endgame dungeons are their?(I.E Lugia's 99 floor dungeon in Red Rescue Team).
3. How much content is there?
4. How hard is i to recruit a Fennekin/Braixen/Delphox

>>29219278
Per map yeah, but they still have different behavior like lava being safe for fire types and the various abilities/moves that can only be triggered on water tiles.

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>>29220038
1. There's 126 dungeons. Can't really remember how many were used for the plot, and how many are endgame only.
3. The game's pretty restrictive until you reach the postgame, which shouldn't take too long. The postgame's when it starts to open up, but there's no real plot to it. You mostly just recruit members through the connection orb system and fight legendary bosses.
4. Postgame only, you talk to Fennekin and Braixen to recruit them, and Delphox is recruited by connecting with Skitty.

>>29171612
So, what emulator do you use? I've tried Desmume on my Chromebook (running Linux), but it regularly drops to 10 FPS and sounds like 10 kinds of crap. I'd guess there's just not enough RAM on this little machine. Got a better emulator, or is Desmume just the best of the worst?

>>29220038
1 a bunch
2 I think there are only one or two 99 floor dungeons
3 They removed RNG missions for some reason, but if you go for 100% and do all the connection orb missons you can get about 100 hours out of it. I can't remember how many hours the story is.
4 If you don't pick it as your partner/MC then I think you have to wait until postgame before they are recruitable.

>>29220494
Desmume is the only one I know of, so if you can't get it to run at a reasonable speed in that, you're fucked.

>>29220494
I use no$gba.

Desmume ran fine for me for the most part but the audio would always slow down to like half speed whenever the screen faded to black. It was so distracting.

>>29220539
>>29220444
Wait
Their are no more random dungeons?

>>29220928
>random dungeons
What are you talking about? Is that a Gates thing?

>>29220971
>no more random dungeons
WELP
My interest in this game tanked. I'll sill play it, but that sucks.

>>29220928
What? Are you talking about that Magnegate thing from gates? No, that was exclusive to GtI.

>>29221089
Random dungeons, as in randomly generated layouts(or in some cases, seeded(I think)).
The earlier games had them. You'd think that Super Mystery Dungeon would as well, considering that it has a lot more potential.

>>29221240
Oh, ok. Then yes. Super has that. Every game has that. That's kinda a main feature of Mystery dungeon.

>>29221361
OK, then. I'm glad we got that cleared up, I apologize for my retardation.

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Keep the thread bumped, guys!

will they have all these new aloan pokemon in the new mystery dungeon game? Will there be another game?

>>29228503
Yes to both

>>29228503
No to both.

>>29228503
Maybe to both.

>>29228503
I don't know to both.

>>29228503
Can you repeat the question to both?

how are you guys holding up with all the leaks goin on?

>>29233815
Peachy, bby.