Go nuts 4chan

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>>28807160
ok

Got 'em

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>>28807160
Tyrantrum looks like a dragon.

>>28807160
dragon =/= dragon type

>>28807160
Did you wander in from redd.it

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MH is worse desu
>Unicorns, flying forest squid islands, whales, and gooey skeleton squids are dragons
>This isn't

>>28807217
TITO DICK MAN BABY

>>28807264
HE RAISED PHIL AND LOVES THE LADIES

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>>28807264
WHY ISNT IT A GRASS TYPE

>>28807160
Why isn't Flygon in the picture?

>>28807160
There is no pokemon that looks more like a "dragon" than Noivern.

>inb4 wyverns aren't dragons
They're the same fucking thing.

>>28807160
I'm ok with Kingdra, Noivern, lugia and the posion one that I forgot the name

>>28807160
Dragalge and Kingdra make sense (sea dragons)
M-Ampharos makes sense when you consider its japanese name
Noivern is literally a bat dragon. Neither one nor the other. It's interesting and a good design, and it makes sense.
Vibrava is a dragonfly. should've been Bug/Dragon, but whatever.
Tyrantrum is a T. rex, which is definitely worthy of being labeled a dragon.
Goomy makes sense when you learn its origins.
Shelgon I would omit because it's a transitory stage for definite dragons.
Altaria? I got nothing.
A-Exeggutor has some origins that make sense as a dragon, though it's pretty far-fetched. I appreciate the diversity.
Charizard is only not a Dragon-type because it's a starter. They also rectified this with MX-Charizard.
Gyarados could definitely have been a dragon, but they wanted to keep it an exclusive typing in gen 1.
Aerodactyl has Gyarados' answer, and additionally the clause that fossils must be Rock-type. They decided it would best be served as a Rock/Flying-type. I also question why you would consider Noivern or Tyrantrum as questionable and not Aerodactyl.
Lugia is perfectly fine as a non-dragon and I don't see why you would actually consider it one.

>>28807333
Clearly not because one group is named "dragons" and the other is named "wyverns".

your such a bitch man

>>28807273
IT'S

>>28807413
All wyverns are dragons, not all dragons are wyverns.

>>28807398
>bat dragon
It's a wyvern

>>28807398
>Vibrava is a dragonfly.

Antlions aren't dragonflies.

>>28807423
(U)

>>28807398
Altaria is a cloud that dragons

>>28807424
THE

>>28807453
Wyvern ~= dragon

>>28807459
>Pokémon can't have multiple origins

>>28807493
Agreed

>>28807248
Rathalos is a wyvern you dip, it's the same thing

>>28807510
I'm not saying they can't but the Trapinch-Vibrava-Flygon lines are very clearly based off antlions and their winged adult forms.

>>28807510
>Wyvern ~= dragon
True
>Wyvern ~= Bat-dragon
False

I've been discussing this with some people
And it has been decided that what makes a final stage dragon is that it has a long neck

middle and first stages can be whatever

>>28807494
NUTSHACK

>>28807494
NUTSHACK

>>28807510
>>Pokémon can't have multiple origins
Except, that's not how it works, you fucking idiot.
There is nothing dragonfly-like about vibrava that isn't already found in adult ant lions.

>>28807527
However, I propose:
Wyvern ~= Noivern ~= bat-dragon
y/n?

>>28807543
>>28807534
Dammit

>>28807528
Turtonator

Chinese dragon fucking when, don't let me down drampa please evolve

>>28807544
K then I guess it makes literally no sense or something

Thanks for giving a better answer, I'm sure they just accidentally made it Dragon-type anyway.

>>28807573
what about fug?

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>>28807248
That's a wyvren.
Listen up, dragons have 4 legs. Wings aren't important. When they do have wings it's usually on their back.

Wyvrens, however, always have wings as their front limbs, and only only have two legs. A lot of people get it wrong because nobody gives any absolute fuck about fantasy anatomy, but this is the defining traits of both regardless of what medium portrays it as.

The defining traits of an Ettin is that it is a giant with two heads. Some games and stories portray it as just a giant, some portray it as just a guy with two heads, but that just means those stories took liberties with it and are wrong.


That said, even trolls and goblins have a far stricter adherence to what constitutes as a troll or goblin in design than dragons do. Because it's entirely fantasy it's basically just a meme in the actual sense of the word and as such varies in interpretation from person to person, culture to culture, but still adheres to some common idea of what constitutes it as what it is.

As another example, there are many different varieties of Pepe yet you know instantly that each one is a Pepe. What constitutes as a requirement for it to be Pepe? The colors? Being a frog? The hand gestures they make? There are variations which do not match any of those things and yet the person posting it is still a dumb frog poster.

>>28807570
check again
turtonator has a long neck

>>28807605
>has a neck
>it's a dragon

WOW

Gyarados isnt a real dragon type because its based off of a Japanese windsock that was demoted from its dragon status

>>28807581
It's a dragon type because Gamefreak decided to give it a dragon type.
Dragonflys aren't even associated with dragons in Japan.

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>>28807602
>Listen up, dragons have 4 legs.
"No"

>>28807602
>dragons have 4 legs
Anon, dragons doesn't exist irl
the meaning of dragon change from culture to culture

>>28807248
Yes, but monster hunter has some mint dragons that do meet classic criteria (see: Fatalis, Alatreon, Guanzorumu, Lao Shang Lung, Mizutsune...)

>>28807678
That's not a dragon and the painter was obviously a retard, sorry.

>>28807581
It's a Sand Dragon that's also based on an Antlion.

>Pokémon can't have multiple origins

You fucking retard.

>>28807678
That's a wyvern.

>>28807715
is george a dragon? steve is definitely a wyvern

>>28807160
Is that executor real?

>>28807715
Mizutsune is a Leviathan and Lao doesn't have wings
Captcha: Huntsman

i wish we had some pokemon based on those really goofy depictions of medieval dragons
y'know, that ones that almost look more pitiful than fierce

>>28807602
>people are arguing against this
For what pvrpose?
>>28807703
Of course, but what culture do you think we're talking about right now? Obviously not the ones where that's not true.
>>28807753
Also /this/. Fucking hell the sea bunny cucumber argument has gone on for so long and it's still a part of this board

>>28807715
fatalis and alatreaon is the most dragonish of them all

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>>28807777
More like captcha those quads

>>28807771
Do you live under a rock or something

>>28807602
>Dungos and Draggies says it so its the definition of draggin

>>28807628
a LONG neck

>>28807790
Like Druddigon?

>>28807793
>Obviously not the ones where that's not true.
What did he mean by this?

>>28807528
charizard?????

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>>28807741
>>28807756
Sorry, it's not called "St. George and the Wyvern"

>>28807810
So Lapras is a Dragon type now? How about Furret?

Nevermind your theory is clearly bulletproof and I'm a retard for even questioning it.

>>28807810
see
>>28807815

>>28807829
yes he should be a dragon, they corrected at least half of that with his mega
did the same thing with ampharos
also sceptile's neck actually gets longer when he gains dragon type

>>28807840
>HURR it doesn't count!! Stop questioning my flawless logic!

>>28807835
you are failing at basic logic
all A are B does not imply all B are A

>>28807602
But then why is Deviljho a wyvern?

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>>28807790
So like this?
Oh wait, I'm sorry. This is a "wyvern" according to some anons, despite having been called a dragon for centuries.

>>28807273
JACK'S COOL AND LAZY, HE'S STILL LEARNIN

>>28807840
uh druddigon has a long neck

>>28807825
Where his statements if wyverns and dragons are incorrect. They aren't to my knowledge, but I don't remember origins of things at 3am excuse me
>>28807829
>X grows spikes and goes black
>becomes dragon type
>Y gets overhauled to look like a wyvern
>doesn't become a dragon type
It's a fiery lizard, my dude. At least Y got the best design.

>>28807878
nope

>>28807865
Where is there even a basic correlation being made here? Not all dragon-types have long necks, not all pokemon with long necks are dragons. You're literally grasping at straws.

>>28807886
>3am
where are you?

>>28807907
Scandi let me sleep aight

>>28807160
Zard and Gyarados has Dragon-typed Megas to make up for it. Aerodactyl is a pterodactyl, not a dragon.

You got me on Lugia and Goomy. Everything else has a reason to be a dragon, whether it's because of its design, the animal/mythical creature its based on, or a foreign language pun.

>>28807264
It's Tito "Dick" Dickman baby fuck off

>>28807889
all final stage dragon type evos have long necks

>>28807887
look again, druddigon has a long neck, the red thing extends part way down his neck
you can tell easier if you look at him from behind

>>28807936
Gyarados' mega is Water/Dark

>>28807944
it's not a long neck, it's just a regular neck

>>28807187
How do I activate them?

>>28807936
Goomy is based on a french dragon snail

>>28807944
>all final stage dragon type evos have long necks

Blatantly false with counterexamples already posted here >>28807840
and here >>28807570

But you're obviously baiting here so you might as well fuck off.

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>>28807741
>>28807756
That's not even the close to the weirdest dragon from that time period
I really want one of these as a bug/dragon pokemon

>>28807977
Aren't those single stages, though? I think that was the op's point.

>>28807995
He's not the OP, and we don't know if Turtonator is single-stage or not. It's not even a testable theory, what decides whether the neck is long enough or not? It's not like Dragonite has a very distinguished neck, or even Garchomp for that matter.

>>28807413
Clearly squares aren't shape, because one group is called "squares" and the other is called "shapes".

>>28807493
Something tells me that it might have dragon wings underneath those cloud coverings. It might also have not-so-well defined dragon scales covering its body. A strange case regardless.

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>>28807956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q3X__QFeGo
take a gander

>>28807977
turtonator

>>28808067
>Dragonite
>Kingdra
>Garchomp
>Druddigon

Feel free to fuck yourself at any time, anon.

>>28808067
It's not a neck , anon
it's his chest
I'm talking about druddigon

>>28808093
all of those have long necks
a long neck is part and parcel of the 'dragon' shape

>>28807160
>>28807160
>>28807160
Altaria is based off a creature referred to both as a mythical bird and a dragon, Dragalge and Kingdra are both based off the idea of Sea Dragons, >>28807160
>>28807160
Altaria is based off a creature referred to both as a mythical bird and a dragon, Dragalge and Kingdra are both based off the idea of Sea Dragons, Noivern is a unique take on a wyvern, Goodra and co. are based on French snail dragons (the Lou Carcolh), Flygon line is based on the life cycle of ant lions (the adult resembling a dragon fly), and Exeggutor is based on Dracaena draco. Aerodactyl is based off a pterosaur and makes just as much sense as Tyrantrum. Lugia's lack of dragon typing is the least of its problems. Charizard gained it anyways. And Gyarados and Mega Ampharos are a mystery to me. Either way end this meme.

>>28807197
Stop that's making me gay

>>28808102
the video kicks in a couple seconds before you get a shot of druddigon from the back

>>28808104
>all of those have long necks

Then 'long neck' by your definition is entirely arbitrary and not a characteristic of the type decided by Gamefreak.

>>28808114
reply more
maybe OP didn't saw your post

>>28808114
implying clouds are dragons

>>28807876
HE'S STILL LEARNIN'

>>28808126
yes this is true
this applies to every argument about what design elements make a dragon type

what makes a dragon type is that a pokemon's type is dragon

>>28808067
sure anon,
and lapras, ho-oh, tropius, cresselia, swanna and Furfrou are dragons as well

>>28807187
I love walnuts

>>28808200
if all cats are mammals are all mammals cats

>>28808213
so, neck size doesn't matter?
glad we agree

>>28808213
But if all mammals have necks they're Dragons. As >>28808104 so eloquently stated, its the long neck that the main characteristic, as opposed to, you know, being based off a mythical animal or something.

>>28808233
you probably get what I am driving at

>>28808270
just curiosity, do you actually think that you convinced anyone that druddigon have a long neck or your neck theory at all?

>>28807759
???
>>28807777
Sorry, Should've double checked
>>28807794
Guanzorumu fits the mold quite well, what do you think of Gogmazios?

>>28808269
all final stage dragons have long necks does not imply that all things with long necks are final stage dragons, that would just be silly

>>28807815
druddigon looks like a fairly stereotypical dragon, though
>>28807756
>>28807759
>it's not a dragon it's a wyvern!!!
autism
both of those have nebulous definitions

>>28808320
You're saying that theres a correlation between final-stage Dragons and long necks, yet there are probably more Pokemon with long necks that aren't Dragon type. In other words, its a completely arbitrary and meaningless observation, not to mention blatantly false given the numerous counterexamples.

>>28808300
of course not
the broader point is that dragon doesn't actually have any intrinsic stylistic content in pokemon world, it's just a type
I think after exeggutor that should be clear

>>28807636
underrated post

>>28807338
Dragalge. The Pokémon that I would have loved if it weren't for the high Sp D which is stupid as fuck

>>28807991
>crowns
>covered in eyes
>no wings and a shit ton of legs
why can't we have dragons this great anymore

>>28808372
nah, exeggutor is a dragon because that "tree named dragon"
like vibrava is a dragonfly (at least part of)
the neck is totally irrelevant

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dragons?

>>28808406
exeggutor is a dragon type because it's hilarious

>>28807534
>>28807543
Shackmind

>>28807160
During the alpha/beta stages of RBY the "Bird" and the "Flying" types were two distinct types, the former can be found in the games data and a lot of NPCs reference "bird" pokémon when talking about flying ones.

I recall reading that the "Bird" type was originally given to all the birdlike Pokémon (Spearow, Pidgey, Doduo, etc), while the flying type was what later became the Dragon type (given to stuff like Charizard, Dragonite and Gyarados).

When the rest of the original Dragon type line was created (Dratini and Dragonair were added later than Dragonite, check the original index numbers), a custom type was created for it, the birdlike Pokémon all became Flying type to avoid redundancy and stuff like Gyarados and Charizard were left with their original "beta" type to also avoid being too broken, since a Water/Dragon Gyarados would have been unstoppable in RBY (no weaknesses since Dragon Rage does fixed damage), same with a Fire/Dragon Charizard, which would have been way too unbalanced compared to the other starters.

>>28807799
Just answer the question cuck

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>>28808416

>>28808686
no, it's not

>>28807264
>>28807217
>>28807273
What's with all this Nutshackposting lately, all of a sudden?

>>28808716
it's epic...

>>28808313
george = gogmazios

>>28808346
define it then you fucking autisma

>>28808789
it's a dumb Youtube meme from what I can tell, from the same sort of people who are really into the SiIvaGunner "lore"

Noivern and Tyrantrum share a lot of characteristics with dragons. Remove them and the image makes its point better.

>>28809059
>>28809059
t rex =/= dragon

>>28809039
i just said they have nebulous definitions retard

>>28809118
"share a lot of characteristics with"

Slap some wings on it and there's no denying it's a dragon. Including it in the same image as obvious joke dragons like Goomy and Exeggutor pulls the punch.

>>28807867

Not that guy, but according to monster hunter lore, Brute Wyverns are wyverns that have evolved to be more terrestrial in nature. While they still possess signs of wyvern lineage they aren't flying wyverns.

Its just the Cassowary of the monster world. Vicious and menacing and completely fucking stupid looking.

>>28807886
>At least Y got the best design
Objectively wrong.

>>28809118
Fun fact: when people first discovered dinosaur fossils, they thought they were dragon bones. Some people even think dino fossils could've started the whole dragon deal thing in the first place.

>>28808416
You got any more?

>>28807160
Lugia always looked like a bird to me. Always wanted him to be water/flying or water/psychic

>>28807160
Lugia's a gay dolphin with hands. Squirtle's more draconic than him.

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>>28809550
you betcha

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>Not muh dragons
>think anything even remotely reptilian should be a dragon-type
Thank the lord whinny shits like those who OPs pic don't work for GameFreak

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>>28809615
You're a friend

>>28808114
Gyarados isn't Dragon-type because it was supposed to be an overpowered "rare type" in Gen 1, and the mega isn't Dragon because being aquatic and being mean are more prominent parts of its design. Mega Ampharos is a terrible Japanese pun.

>>28809678
I kinda figured with Gyarados. Never had a clue on Ampharos but it's always been one of the weirdest Pokemon as it was, I didn't expect it to start making sense.

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>>28809677
anything for you, anon

>>28809772
Aw shucks

>>28808735
:(

>>28809041

It's been a 4chan meme for years.

It's just re-surged recently. If I knew who SilvaGunner was I'm sure I'd know if he was the asshole who did it.

>>28810101
SilvaGunner is a lot of people.

>>28809615
Is that a fart?
Is this colossal, huumanoid dragon with tits and hair, farting with such a high pressure that everyone inside the medieval casstle gets expelled out of it?
And the fat dragon thing gets off on it?
And YOU get off on this absurdly stupid scenario that's way to fucking stupid at face value to even cross the boner-worthy barrier?

I've seen and fapped to cringy shit before, fur and scales included. But I don't see how these pics or you getting a boner seeing them are physically possible in any way.

>>28810695
it's epic...

>>28807398
>Goomy makes sense when you learn its origins.
Care to explain? I haven't played Gen6.

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>>28809615

Y'all trip me out w this shit. Get over it.

>>28813666
French snail dragon is a thing in france mythos, satan.

>>28807991
Now THIS is the type of monsters I love to see. Even dragons can have multiple limbs and no wings as long as they still have that characteristic look, a reptilian beast with horns and spews fire.

It's pretty funy howthese beasts have been portrayed over the years and still in the current days (I'm actually liking the more feathered look they are portrayed with now). I mean hell, France has a snail dragon and even a beast with a lion's head, a tuttle's shell and six legs and it was still a dragon.

>>28813789
Oh, those. Didn't make the connection. Should've been obvious, though, since Kalos is based on France.

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Alola Rapidash, Electric/Dragon confirmed.

>>28807602
Then explain to me and everyone that says the "muh long neck" argument how pick related is a dragon. Yeah, didn't expect this, didn't you ? This is a Tarasque, a French dragon and yes, it's classified as a draconic beast.

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>>28813849
Whops, forgot pic.

>It's a 'only western dragons exist' thread ignoring that the concept of what a dragon is, especially in jape legend is really fucking vague most of the time

>>28813849
>>28813856
You need to stop arguing with them because it's obvious that they're just baiting. Are you retarded or something?

>>28813849
>Tarrasque
>Draconic=Dragon

>>>/tg/ would like a word with you.

>>28807291
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrified_wood

>>28813878
Nah, just trying to let something out. I know there heads are to thick to understand.

>>28807160
How special do you need to be to not realise the dragon type is just for generic dragons after 20 years?

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>>28807160
>4chan
>Not just saying /vp/
>4chan is definitely one entity
Newfag detected

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>>28813858
They're not even as limited in Western myth as these people would like to imply. Dragons have always been very vague the world over. Albeit even moreso in the East. They just want a bunch of Druddigons or something.

>>28807333
Wyverns and dragons are differenr subspecies of Drakes

>Noivern looks more like a dragon than Rayquaza, Salamence, Charizard and Dragonite

>>28807160
Charizard is the only one out of the bottom pokemon that looks remotely like a dragon.

>>28818020
It's all the same fucking thing.

>>28818091
Technically no they aren't the same thing just similar
http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/difference-between-wyvern-and-dragon/

>>28818139
>trying to prove the genetics and anatomy of magic lizards
They're the same damn thing.

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>>28817906
Top kek

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>>28818177
Just like elves and halflings, right?

>>28817906
>yfw you actually play with Alolan Exeggutor's tail in Poké relax or whatever it was called

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>>28818326
Not gonna lie I'd be bothered. Gonna post the rest of that comic btw starting with the beginning

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>>28818447
and 2 out of 3

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>>28807160
>dragon

>>28807160
Lugia - BIRD
Gyarados - FISH
Aerodactyl - PTERADACTYL
Charizard - GENWUN BAIT

none of them are dragons

>>28818461
>>28818447
>>28817906
What's Red doing there? and why does it look like Hau is horrified because of Red/Pikachu?

>>28807291
>sudowoodo
>pseudo-wood-o
he's merely pretending to be a tree

>>28807398
>Tyrantrum is a T. rex, which is definitely worthy of being labeled a dragon.
And the Japanese name for dinosaur is kyoRYU anyway