Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

POCKET MONSTERS 44 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_-_044_-_Paras_and_Parasect[H264_SUB][F7D3A8D8].mkv.torrent

MOVIE 1 TRAILER SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_Movie_1_Trailer_1[H264_SUB][518DF777].mkv.torrent

XY&Z37 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_037_The_Finals!_Satoshi_VS_Alan!![H264_720P][429D17E9].mkv.torrent

XY&Z38 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=841536

XY&Z39 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=843882

XY&Z40 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=845935

XY&Z41 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=847987

XY&Z42/43 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=850249

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z44: WE START AT ZERO! CITRON'S DECISION!! (OCTOBER 6TH)
>The incident caused by Flare has come to an end, and the Kalos region starts getting restored little by little. Clemont is also busy restoring the Gym and repairing the Citroid. On the day before the Gym is finally going to reopen, a boy comes to visit Clemont. The boy tells him that he challenged the Citroid to a gym battle once and lost against it, and that he has now come for a rematch...

UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 50 (Sep 18th)

XY&Z -MOVIE VER.- (SATOSHI)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6d63pkrvpvcqry3/XY%26Z_MOVIE_VER_%28Both_Sizes%29.zip

THE PIKACHU SONG (PIKACHU)
http://www.megafileupload.com/7hw9/The_Pikachu_Song.m4a

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA SOUNDTRACK
http://www.filedrop
per.com/movie19soundtrack

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA
CHAPTER 1: http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8
CHAPTER 2: http://imgur.com/a/cGC71
CHAPTER 3: http://imgur.com/a/l6bs1

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Flying to the new thread, looking forward more XY&Z episode titles and maybe more subs.

Thread song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-yIiu69850

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Best girl

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>Upcoming episodes:
>None listed
I'm genuinely triggered
Muh titles when?

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>>28548724

>>28548740
Pokemon Fan is officially out in 5 days.

>>28548740
Probably because the next episode is three weeks away. I suppose we'll be getting broadcast listing soon, won't we?

Will Lillie win da Ash?

>>28548696
>Tomioka self-inserts as Alan
>gives himself a loli waifu who hugs him in the span of three episodes
>she doesn't even get mad when his edge pushes her away and keeps supporting him
>reacts to him ten times more openly than Serena towards Ash
>Ash is going to end up ditching Serena while Alan and Manon will stay at Sycamore's lab and live a comfy life of Pokémon research and fugging every night
At least one person is happy about all this.

post yfw when no more serena.

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Long hair Serena best Serena.

And I will even miss short hair Serena after seeing that horrible SM trailer.

Sup senpai, how would you like your Ash?

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>>28548727
She most certainly is.

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>>28548772

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>>28548751
When should we expect leaks?

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>>28548780
Like this

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Was it "Satoshi, I'm waiting" or "Satoshi, we're waiting" dammit! ADAMANT!

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>>28548780
N-naked.

>>28548790
In 3 or 4 days

>>28548814
It'd mean the same in this situation, wouldn't it?

>>28548764
In a few weeks, she'll have a better chance than Serena...

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>>28548818
L-lewd.

>>28548837
Did Puni-chan die at the end of 1 hour special?

Hey /padt/. I left after the league.

Is the SM anime going to be done by different animators? I don't follow that sort of thing, but I do remember some of the animators speaking out against having Ash lose all the time.

>>28548837
Umm, no?

Guys, what if this new Satoshi ends up just being his son, also being named Satoshi and also starting with a Pikachu?

That's totally possible still, right?

Being in denial over this is becoming increasingly difficult.

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>>28548780
Like this.

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Quick recap of today.

Finally the shitty, overdramatic, cookie cutter, corny, and plot hole infested mess of flare arc is done and we got the new sm trailer.

Let's see

>Fluid animation
>Fun Ash instead of the edgy faggot Ash
>No more dumbfrog
>No more Serena
>Skull gang looks great
>Team rocket get mimikyu and bewear

That's great and all

>No chicken-chan

Whoa they dropped the ball there, didnt they? Oh well I'm a mallow missile now.

>>28548857
No.

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Why did Lillie look so friendly and open in the preview?

This doesn't bode well for the prospect of interesting characters, instead of everyone being super nice like XY.

Anyone else excited for silly ash? I thought making him a typical Japanese stubborn man was a little boring, especially combined with serena

>>28548764
Lillie getting killed or being sent into alien dimension for eternity.

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>>28548862
>Is the SM anime going to be done by different animators?

They haven't announced anything of the sort so it's unlikely but not impossible.

>>28548837
Thoughts about the trailer Adamant?

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>>28548849
C-can't help it.

>>28548857
>>28548870
No.

>>28548885
Why does ash look like a fucking faggot?

It's XYZ fault that SM looks shitty. That means they spent a lot of money on XYZ and had not much profit, resulting in budget cuts.

>>28548814
There's no pronoun here, which is typical for Japanese. Just base it off her tone.

>>28548889
If I want that silly retard stuff I would watch some Western show like Eek! The Cat or something. This shit needs to stay away from anime.

>>28548727
The problem with her is that they're never going to attempt anything like Amour ever again. I can imagine so much saltiness when she leaves.

>>28548764
How triggered would people be if that actually happened at the end of Sun and Moon?

>>28548885
She was probably talking to the teacher, no need to not be nice to them. She's probably a bitch to her classmates though.

>>28548901
Lillie a qt.

As for the show, it could be fun. I want to wait and see before judging.

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How can one girl possibly be this cute?

>>28548934
>M-MUH ANIMES ARE SUPER DUPER SERIOUS AND NO FUN ALLOWED >:O >:O >:O

>>28548934
>not liking anime comedy

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>"I will do everything I can to prevent the future I saw, Xerosic. That night, when we were experimenting with Mega Energy, and the time wormhole opened...I saw...things. Horrible. Unspeakable things. And I learned that, unless we force it to, the world will eventually end like it. I will...save the world from it, even if I have to destroy it and rebuild it completely. Even if I have to sacrifice myself for the greater good. I will save the Pokemon World from...it."

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Question: Why does everyone cling to Serena so hard? Why do they even want her in Alola? What makes her character worthwhile compared to other girls?

Protip: saying "she's cute" or "she likes Ash" only proves that she's a shallow and uninteresting character. Plus every pokegirl is cute.

>>28548941
Sure if interspecies relationships are a thing in the anime... Otherwise, expect the same thing again.

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>>28548945
>Lillie a qt.

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>>28548780
This.

>>28548971
Iris wasn't cute.

>>28548945
Artstyle is atrocious imho.

But I am going to give it benefit of doubt and watch how it is transitioned from XY to SM.

>>28548971
Her only character treat is craving Ash's dick. But since these faggots keep self inserting on him, that's the only character trait that matters to them. That's why they're so against her leaving, to them she's craving 'their' cock, not Ash's. It'd be sad if it weren't so fucking disgusting.

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>>28548953
I wish I can marry Serena. She would make an ideal wife.

>>28548994
You sound like a kid.

>>28548971
I used to want Serena to go to Alola, or if she wouldn't, at least that the Chicken or Lillie would be the female companions.

After the poster and the trailer, I'm glad that Serena and Chicken dodged the bullet. I can't say the same for Lillie, sadly. Fuck Mallow, though.

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>>28548971

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>>28548994
>implying

Just finished watching 42/43. Wew, I don't think I've ever seen so many anime tropes hamfisted into a one hour special at once.
That was... something alright.

>>28548885
I'm not gonna say I hate the art style without having seen more of it, but I hate the art style without having seen more of it.
I think my biggest problem still though, is that they fumbled a bunch of easy shit, and then the flair arc was some of the most rushed and retarded writing I've ever seen for a plot climax in my life.

I just don't know how to you go so right throughout a series, and then just shit the bed so hard right at the finish line when it's so free and easy.

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>>28548971
I wanted either Serena or Greninja so my boy can finally get some permanent development
And now my dream is dead like Serena and frog

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>>28548994
Objectively wrong.

>>28548941
If it was done properly, I'd be fine with Lillie x Ash as the end game, and Game Freak stopped fucking around. Dawnfags would be sad, Mistyfags would be angry, Serenafags would kill themselves.

>>28548971
>she's friendly
>she's soft spoken
>she's caring for others
Sure Ash steals most of her attention but she cares about her friends.

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>>28548780
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP

>>28548971
Because she's literally perfect.

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>>28549026
>people actually think any other girl will have a canon crush on Ash

Let's do a list of things that will look good in comparison to SM, shall we? I'll start:

>Cameron

>>28548889
Yes. /padt/ is hating on him because he ditched their waifu.

>>28548921
>>28548885
My faggot satoshi doing this faggot look everytime I watch anime. Every fucking day. Every single fucking day this little faggot just sits there and gives me this stupid look on his face.

>>28548941
>tfw Lillie is kept as pet squid in Pallet as Ash travels.

>>28549011
I hate all of them except Lillie. None of them look that great, why bother putting in a brown girl in the show again when people hated Iris? And Lana is bait for pedophiles.

>>28548994
Shit taste confirmed.

That or just racist.

Either way, go bury yourself for eternity.

>>28549008
Then do it Ash.

>>28549026
So they should make Ash interested in tentacles I guess.

>>28548885
God ash looks so damn bad compared to xy

>>28548959
>>28548960
The goofiness is needed to be appealing to a low IQ audience. An anime doesn't need that, and can be good with more serious characters and settings.

>>28549059
Shit taste pls go

>>28549049
Serena isn't that cute. Kind of boring I thought. Why would anyone want a boring girl instead Of a happycute one?

>>28548764
>>28548848
>>28548941
>>28549026
>people still believe that there will be shippings in the ashnime

>>28549004
Eh, several normies I've come across like Serena(girls too) and some of them found themselves sticking to XY because of her, even if they had stopped watching the anime since long ago or never had watched it even.

>>28549072
>An anime doesn't need that
It's good that Japan thinks otherwise.

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>>28549086
Pokemon loves interracial.

>>28549086
>school setting
>no shipping
Maybe not with Ash, but will be here.

>>28548971
She is good looking and being submissive while also being caring, these are things that make her an ideal wife for many people.

>>28548971
Because she is perfection and it's been stated numerous times that she makes the best waifu material. if she leaves I could lose my respect for her

Leaguefags really need to stop pretending they've been here for more than a few months holy shit

>>28549049
And serebii. And bulbapedo. And reddit, neogaf, youtube, tvtropes, twitter, /a/, /v/, the rest of /vp/, spic forums, facebook fanpages...

>>28549113
I could see Kiawe and Lillie, he appears to be the most "mature" of the crowd.

>>28549072
>IQs
>Meaning anything

Yeah buddy and i got the IQ of a adult male in his late thirties when i was six years old, and yet i want to watch SM, guess that means that goofy anime is the best and that no serious anime should ever exist right?

>>28549044
>Greninja jobbing

Is Olympia charlatane.
Her predictions are so fucking off.

So who else thinks that Ash is going to get all three starters again, like season 1? None of the three are standing out as if they will be his one and only starter.

>>28549113
>le SoL school harem meme

You're as retarded as the ones who thought Amour would be canon and that Ash would win a league.

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>>28549128
>Everytime something goes wrong we will call on a new boogieman

My favorite meme.

>>28549086
>shippings in the ashnime
MayxDrew
ViolaxGrant
AlanxManon

It's like you don't even watch the show.

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This is my Satoshi

>>28549035
SM Ash is going to make BW Ash look good, jesus christ.

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>>28548696

what is this expression trying to convey?

>>28549126
>>28549124
>>28549008

See? All these people saying they like her because they want her as a 'wife', despite her literally being a ten year old girl, and the reasoning largely being her perceived submissiveness. No mention of any character traits that make her interesting to watch, just 'she'd let me fuck her', basically.

>>28549146
No, it means you have the mental development of a 10 year old kid.

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>>28549086
?????

I am actually okay with the chicken not showing up now. The art style and animation in SM are HORRENDOUS. Is it even the same animation company?~

>>28549158
Already happened in BW, so that'll be nothing new.

>>28549162
It's pretty fucking obvious this thread has full of faggots that have watched very little of XY in general ever since the league started.

>>28549158
Probably not, Lana was seen with Popplio.

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>>28549164
Kenny and Dawn too

>>28549136
>serebii
>bulbapedo
>reddit
>youtube
>facebook

Stop it anon. I can't take so much autism all at once.

>>28549178
>I'd better construct this elaborate fantasy that I bet all Serenafags subscribe to

>>28549158
The concept art makes it seem like Litten will be his starter. The promo looks as though it will be Rowlet. Who knows? I'd be down for him having all three.

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>Yfw Ash and Manon are almost the same size

>>28549169
BW Ash design wasn't that bad, honestly.
But I see why it triggered people in 2010.

>>28549180
I think they meant main characters.

>>28549178
Ok, I'll be generous with you.

You do realize this thread is full of people falseflagging for shits and giggles, right?

I've been doing it myself, falseflagging as both someone who likes and dislikes SM, Serena and Lillie. Hell, you just replied to one of my posts.

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Press F to pay respects

>>28549179
Sure thing buddy! i bet you are smirking at yourself for such a greaaaaaat come back, say, how does it feel to have the mental development of a edgy 12 year old?

>>28549202
>Essentially quoting people is making up an elaborate fantasy

>>28549182
>>28549089

>>28549158
Lana has Popplio, so 2 at max.

>>28549197
You're on page done by autist, copied from autists, up-kept for autists and manned by autists.
Where the fuck do you think you are?

>>28549219
FA Q
A
Q

>>28549180
Baby-making doujins where?

>>28549216
There's a lot of people of who claim shit like that, you're not going to claim they're ALL falseflagging, are you?

>>28549197
It means the anime fanbase is autistic as fuck, and can only congregate in autistic places, like the ones you mentioned, or this very general.

And the point still stands, a huge majority didn't like the announcement of SM.

>still no subs
It's the only reason I even visit these threads

>>28549158
He's getting Litten.

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>>28549207
True. I've liked all of Ash's designs until SM, but this one makes me want to do pic related.

>>28549252
Not like you really need subs to watch a simplistic as fuck anime like this. If you know what the key words are, you should be able to get through just fine.

So why the fuck couldn't they just let Ash win the Kalos league if they knew they were doing this big reboot?

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>>28549250
>It means the anime fanbase is autistic as fuck
You figured that just now?
More than 50% of the fanbase is a Pedophile or Autistic. The other less than half is a kid

>>28548851
Thank you!

>>28549267
Why winner of the league needs education?

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>>28549178
That's what I figured.

Nothing of value was lost.

>>28549267
Chances are, they were going to.

>>28549246
Look at this. "Leaguefags", "funfags", "shills", and other terms are been used by shitposters falseflagging left and right. I would know, I'm doing it too.

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>>>>>>>>>Iwane will have to animate SM

This is so sad.

>>28549266
You do kind of need subs at this point, though. TPCi's dub is literally unwatchable these days: I'm kinda dreading what that Jew who replaces almost 90% of the OST will do to SM Anime, actually. The script and voices are guaranteed to be shit, but I was kinda hoping it'd be like BW's dub where they left the music alone for the first season before going back to their usual tricks.

>>28549267
>if they knew they were doing this big reboot?
Its not a reboot idiot

>>28549267
The better question is: Why the fuck the last 4 episodes?

>>28549222
>Hah, you can't name 10 reasons why you like Serena that means you like her for these 2 reasons

Here's a cool experiment: go ask people for 10 reasons why they like X character in Y series and see what they say. Most of them will struggle, even if's their favorite character. It's a hard question to answer because people don't list traits of a character in their brain and then choose to like them based on those traits. They just like the characters that they like.

>>28549266
You barely need that. I was really behind on the anime, but I watched the livestream of the double episode earlier and was fully capable of following what was happening.

Thinking about just doing that from now on, actually.

>>28549267
Because otherwise the whole Ash goes to school would had been even stupider than it already is.

Well i guess the only hope now is for Gen 8 to bring the style of the anime back to what it was before, since we now know the anime changes drastically from gen to gen.

Problem is that's 3 years away.

>>28549158
Lana is getting Popplio
Mallow is getting Rowlet
Ash gets Litten

>>28549250
A huge majority doesn't like Ash's new face.

Stop cherry picking for a minute and you might notice that we're having these arguments because a large number of people also happens to think S/M looks fun.

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>>28549267
Just because ot has a different artstyle it doesn't mean its a reboot.

>>28549252
SOON

When are some new episode titles revealed?

>>28549299
When lots of different people all give the same, single reason, I'm going to assume it's at least an important part of that character's popularity. Sue me.

Anyone else like the scene today when the sun rose and the victory music played?

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How can Ash do it?

https://youtu.be/_x3eSkGu__8?t=12

>>28549317
O N E P I E C E

>>28549325
HY-
>XY&Z38
O-oh.

Steven returns after 12 years from a one time appearance to a cameo star. He literally was the guest this generation. Neither Iris nor Cilan. And Elite 4 Champion stole Ash's Companion slot, in a good way. Also Looker never appeared.

>>28549267
>"producer-san, we have this plan to make Satoshi win this league, and maybe have a girl like him, and then make him the hero of the evil team arc by giving his Gekkouga a new forme that is more powerful than the one we've been shilling, and..."
>"IMPOSSIBURU! SATOSHI MUST GO TO THE NEW REGION, HE HAS TO ROSE THE REAGUERU! MAKE HIM ROOSE! PREASE UNDERSTANDARU!"

>>28549330
Within 5 days

>>28549311
In the poster rowlet is hiding behind Ash, so it's probably his.

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My normie friend qho doesn't even watch the show wanted Serena to stay just because he wants to fuck her kek how sad.

>>28549299
The first traits that came to your mind were essentially "she'd make a good wife." That doesn't make her an interesting character to watch or worth keeping on the show.

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>barely 30 minutes into a new thread
>already over 150 posts
>threads reaching the bump limit in an hour

THREE WEEKS OF THIS GUYS

THREE WEEKS

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>>28549288
>>>>>>>>>>We'll have wait at least three years to see something on par with Brobowl again

>>28549267
>Planned to have Ash win all through XY
>Set up arcs to hype it up
>Get ready for the big finale
>Already have story set up as if Ash had won
>Exec comes in out of fucking nowhere and forces everything to change because they want Ash in a classroom and league champs don't need remedial lessons
>They have to butcher and bastardize the planned ending

Shit man, I bet there were a bunch of glorious Champ Ash scenes left on the cutting room floor after that. Instead we got The Alan Show.

Hau best not appear. Ugly fucker.

>>28549315
>a large number

The delusion is real. Most people can smell the reset coming, only a few autists are still in denial, hoping the SM anime will be something other than it is shaping to be.

>>28549250
It's either Ash's design, Ash going to school, the art style or Serena not being in Alola. Any of them, pretty much.

>>28549333
People will list the very first things they can think of when they think of that character. She's kind and caring in every episode, of course people are going to say she's kind and caring.

>>28549369
See above, stop shitposting. Do you think every character who would make a good wife is uninteresting?

>they didn't even let Greninja use another orange shuriken in the fight to save the world

>>28548971
I straight up just liked her because she knew Ash from the past and her crush, thats pretty much the only interesting thing about her. It was the closest thing we could have gotten to Ash actually having a relationship with a girl.

Pretty much all pokegirls have been extremely one dimensional.

>>28549386
Brobowl wasn't Iwane, it was Nishitani.
>Nishitani fucked off from the anime
>we will literally never see something on par with Brobowl again

>>28549411
You know it's okay, you can admit you only want her around 'cos you want to fuck her. This is /vp/, you're not gonna get judged that much.

so how disappointing was the finale
i tuned out like most after the league flop

>>28549426
>Alan was the one to save Hari-chan, Eureka the one to kill Lysandre

JOBFROG AND JOBBER ASH

>>28549432
That's even worse.
Fuck...

>>28549430
>Pretty much all pokegirls have been extremely one dimensional.

So are almost all characters in every series.

>>28549426
Why, so that it could do nothing again?

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Say all you want about SM but i'm honestly looking foward to it. Why? Well because after 20 years they are finally doing something new.
>The Alola region looks so far better than Kalos
>God tier SM girls
>Fun artstyle
>Interesting animation
>No Gyms
>No League

>>28549411
>Do you think every character who would make a good wife is uninteresting?
Nice strawman, i.e. shitpost.

I didn't say every character, I said Serena, because those are her only traits apparently. >>28548971 specifically asked why she should go to Alola and what makes her character worth keeping, and all you could come up with is "she's my wife!"

Case in point.

>>28549426
>they'll give his own special Greninja to Red in Generations, along with his Megazard
> it will actually accomplish shit

What if Generations is actually a big "fuck you" from TPC for disliking those trailers in YouTube?

>>28549426
>>28549441
So is Olympia a fraud? She foretold that jobberfrog would be the one to save the world

>>28549426
>>28549393
>Shit man, I bet there were a bunch of glorious Champ Ash scenes left on the cutting room floor after that. Instead we got The Alan Show

Unforgivable.

Anyone really thought that Ash's story will wrap up in XYZ?
I mean, Japan really loves Ash, Origins flopped hard, so Ash is staying as much as anime airs.

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Post your rare Manons

>>28549456
Could you make it any more clear how new you are?

>>28549452
>this is what 10 year olds and autists actually think

Kek. Enjoy your out-of-nowhere totally-not-the-league tournament, fag.

>>28549459
F U C K

I completely overlooked that. If this doesn't prove that they had to change the story, I don't know what does.

>>28549452
>God tier SM girls
You are just basing this off looks, all pokegirls have looked god tier minus iris and her shitty hair

>Fun artstyle
no

>Interesting animation
no

>>28549452
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>28549274
It's really sad considering how many of these people probably believe in eugenics

>>28549480
>no argument
>ad hominem

Case closed.
Even Serenafags can't defend her shitty, uninteresting characterization.

>>28549480
Wow anon, you really showed him, didn't you?

>>28549436
It started good, then it became the Alan show, then Greninja never do anything and Alan and Zygarde saved the day. Lysandre was awesome.

>>28549452
since when did TPC shills find this autistic place

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>>28549458
>"How could we have Ash-Greninja in the games?"
>"Eh, just call it Red-Greninja."

>>28549352
>Steven returns
>He doesn't recognize Ash, and Ash doesn't recognize him, either that or they won't speak or allude to the fact that they met before
>Anime fans will attempt to justify this to soothe their autism

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>>28549436
Dissapointing? No. But personally for me it was kind of boring. I prefer the League where Ash lost over the TF Arc.

>>28549435
>look mom i posted it again xD

One more time for you because I know it's difficult to read if you're ESL or an Amerifat. Go ask anybody why they like a character and you will get barely more than 1 or 2 traits and mostly people trying to pass things the character did off as traits. People don't decide to like characters by listing their traits and then going, "Yup, this is the character for me."

>>28549456
Here I'll actually quote you so you don't pretend I'm strawmanning again

>The first traits that came to your mind were essentially "she'd make a good wife." That doesn't make her an interesting character to watch or worth keeping on the show.

You did not say "only traits". You specifically said first traits in a response to a post where I also said what I said to the other guy I'm responding to. I know it's hard to not just make shit up when you're arguing but please at least try to remember what you said 5 minutes ago.

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Welp, I guess this is what I get for trying being an optimist.

>>28549545
>Alan took over the protagonist role when he's the one that helped fuck everything up in the series, and Eureka helped Zygarde become hero legendary for the arc as we all expected

someone just
just fire all these writers, and the series director who initiated this

>>28549436
It was pretty hype actually, though they kinda bumbled it towards the end by sucking Alan's dick a bit too much and ignoring Ash and the frog. But it wasn't bad.

>>28549496
No, they saved the world because placing of Shuriken was so important, you know.

>>28549452
Get rid of Team Rocket already: THAT would be something new!

so what was that "ash-greninja will take an important role" prophecy all about

>>28549399
>Most people can smell the reset coming
No shit, happens every season. Some of us think it looks fun because we're not expecting the pokémon series to be /padt/'s romance animu edgy drama action dream.

It looks fun. Hate on it all you like, the rest of us will be giving it a chance.

>>28549436
- Bonnie was all good.
- Zygarde stuff was predictable but also good.
- Clemont's screentime was disappointing but he did get one good scene where Clembot sacrifices itself.
- Serena was disappointing, didn't get to do much and never got to shine by herself.
- TR mostly just reported on what was happening. I don't know why they needed the foreshadowing from Olympia.
- TF scientists and Xerosic got pretty badly shafted.
- Malva switched sides for no adequately explained reason despite foreshadowing that she'd side with TF.
- Lysandre was good but his battle against Ash and Alan on top of Prism Tower was terribly written and choreographed, just Hyper Beam spamming with Ash's jobbermons dropping one by one until Mega Gyarados was eventually overwhelmed through sheer numbers no strategy involved.
- The climax with the megalith, Perfect Zygarde and the gym leaders was really repetitive but well done. By 'repetitive' I mean that it featured Ash and Alan having to reach the inside of the megalith and it went "roots approaching them -> a gym leader taking the hit in their place -> Ash calling out to him/her -> the gym leader telling Ash to keep going -> rinse and repeat ten times".
- Alan ended up rescuing Hari-san and basically looked like the hero.
- Ash Greninja did jackshit that warranted the prophecy and the hype surrounding it.
- Perfect Zygarde killed Lysandre.

>>28549590
it played an important role in shattering our dreams

>>28549550
Well, he barely looks like AG Steven, who was pretty much the Character of the Day and nothing more. I guess they just forgot they've already adapted him, like they did with Jimmy/Ethan.

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HEY GUYS LOOK

SUN AND MOON ASH

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>>28549568
Yeah. I try to be positive and everyone hates me. If you all hate Pokemon so much why is this thread still here?

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Serenas character trait was only sucking ash's dick at every turn.

you can't fucking prove me wrong and the fact that serena shippers are angry that she's following trash ketchup to alola is because they self inserted into ash because they all fucking thought "serena will win da ash".

This is why shipping is fucking cancerous and you know it.

200+ replies and still nobody has given another reason for liking Serena than 'she'd make a good wife', but sure, she's an amazing character.

>>28549590
It did all the heavy work

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>>28549590
USELESS FUCKING FROG

>entire thread has loved Serena for two and a half years, shitposting aside
>suddenly a bunch of faggots act like it's just a couple people that like her
>at the same time the league starts and there's newfags all over the thread
Right

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do you think the best girl will make a comeback in the next season?

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>>28549612
He looks like Asuka Sho from SuperBook(1981).

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>>28549274

And I thought all these Manon ass shots were a coincidence

>>28549590
Well, in any other media, I'd praise it for subverting the tired old "Chosen One Savior" trope with there being many saviors united together.

But Pokemon already subverts its protagonists more than enough.

>Ash didn't do anything dumb in the trailer
>people already assume he's a BW-tier retard

>>28549617
>trash ketchup
You need to be over 18 to post on 4chan

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>people hating on Greninja
Kill yourselves

>>28549608
>The japanese forgot, but the american dubbers didn't
This is totally a great show with competent writers

>>28549612
Because some people remember being that hopeful and positive when we were first seeded info on the lighthearted BW Ash, and then it was shit and he was a degraded retard.

>>28549180
>has to go on a million rock climbing trips just to get that BBC
I feel sorry for Viola.

>>28549626
She's very likeable but insecure girl that had lots development through the series that gave us all kinds of feelings and really showed she was more than just another protagonist. She developed into a secure girl ready to do what is necessary. She had more development in her character than any other protagonist before except maybe May.

>>28549659
try and prove me wrong that serena has more than one character trait,

you fucking can't

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>>28549567
You are incredibly retarded.

I didn't say being a good wife makes someone uninsteresting, I said it doesn't make them interesting when it's their only trait.

You still haven't explained what's actually interesting about Serena, which was the fucking question in the first place.

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Alan sure was badass going all "Muh Hero". Backflips and jumps in slow motion. Shit was one of the best parts of the episode. And you know what makes ot even better? That everything will pay off FOR HIM.
>Save Kalos
>Won the League
>Got a girlfriend
HE IS LITERALLY THE MC WE NEED

>>28549636
It's your fault. You overdid it with your serenafagging, so much that the others grew tired of her misaimed fandom.

It's on you.

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>>28549694
>she was more than just another protagonist

yeah she was just a side character

>>28549662
Hawlucha had personality and deserved to be the star.
Frog was narutobait.

>>28549694
I am so happy Pokemon is discarding her, it makes up for other shit characters of that type such as Hinata

>>28549703
>XY&Z was the tale of Pokemon Yuya and his Ruri, the Leprechaun

WANNA BE ZA PERFECT

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>>28549452
>The Alola region looks so far better than Kalos
Not really, the setting is both a hit and miss. It can be tropical and comfy but for a school setting it sucks.
>God tier SM girls
Only Lillie.
>Fun artstyle
If it needs a playful goofy artstyle then it's the same as abstract art: shit
>Interesting animation
It should be interesting by being good.
>No Gyms
Not sure if this can be called a perk, guess those kahuna battles will be an interesting replacement.
>No League
Then there is nothing to train for, but the endgame might be based around battling the Ultra Beast leader.

Only reason to be hyped for it is Lillie and Ultra Beast battles. From what I've seen so far I would rate it 2/10.

>>28549728
So you got nothing huh? Lmao you got proved wrong and instant damage control

>>28549662
I liked him a lot until they started treating him like shit for no reason.

Even Sushi hates the new Ash:

http://evidentlyfishy.tumblr.com/post/150443453672/will-it-be-a-struggle-for-you-to-get-used-to-the

>>28549668
>but the american dubbers didn't

Hmm? They added a line about him recognizing Steven in the English dub?

Regarding Ethan, his battle with Ash was during the narration segment, so his name was not said, but the Japanese guide to the movie listed his name as "Hibiki" instead of "Kenta" (despite using the same signature Donphan).

>>28549742 (You)
K

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>>28549675
Okay.

>>28549749
>It should be interesting by being good.
Well animation is good.
Art is not, but animation is no worse than XYZ's.

>>28549749
>for a school setting it sucks.

It's perfect for a school setting because there's lots of potential for adventures, it's not just the typical urban school drama.

>>28549638
If Serena doesn't, then don't count on it.

>>28549713
And by "overdone Serenafagging" you're referring to something besides the blatant falseflag spam that started shortly after the leaugue, of course.

Nah, fuck off.

Dawn struck the balance well between active and pleasant. Unfortunately, she was probably the one who wanted to fuck Ash the least, despite having a very close relationship with him

>>28549742

Mad Mistyfag/Cuckuratard detected

>>28549786
A relatable setting is better for it, who in the first world can relate to having school in some wooden huts like they're African schools?

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Only a miracle can save us

>>28549795
She also had very shitty development and was a shitier reboot of May

>>28549650
It's Ash, He doesn't have book smarts. He has NAKAMA power and wins from being unconventional in battles. Put him in a school setting and you're begging for him to be made to look like a bumbling retard in every single episode.

>>28549701
You have 0 reading comprehension so I'm not going to even bother giving you a serious reply, here's a (You) though.

So is Ash going to lose his special snowflake power since the world just got saved by Alan?

>>28549761
They even bothered to fish out his original dub actor, despite changing studios, something that happened with no other character other than Gary.

>>28549749
It's like they completely dropped the ball this time.

>>28549795
Honestly I always saw Dawn as something of a younger sister figure to Ash.

>>28549795
>tfw there won't be female lead that will be treated as 2nd protagonist and have so much screentime and development
DP was truly unique.

>>28549817
Any school setting is relatable. The environment just makes it more interesting for monster-related adventures.

>>28549856
>Dawn
>development

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA. Screetime she did have but development was Misty tier

>>28549809
How am I a mistyfag?
>>28549790
Yes people who didn't care about Serena had all of those fucking pictures.
They're probably just retards from Serebii, which makes it painfully clear that there are a lot of serenafags

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>>28549795
>who wanted to fuck Ash the least
That's a good thing because not everyone is a shipper cuck so they rather self insert to be the ones who take Dawn.

>>28549703
In a way, I'm glad the guy who won it all was at least a character we all knew since the 1st mega-evo special, and not some last minute ass-pull trainer. If you take into consideration that Ash has to be status quo man, introducing a second mc to be the winner wasn't the worst idea.

What's actually wrong with the new ash? Maybe they'll have some decent writing?

>>28549757
>For one thing, Studio Ghibli is actually filled with skilled people
Holy shit, savage. Kek.

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Manon is honestly the cutest anime girl.

>>28549893
He looks almost nothing like his previous self, and like they changed his archetype / trope into something more carefree and bubbly, like Luffy.

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>>28549836

see
>>28549517

You're the one insisting that being a submissive wife isn't her "only" trait, yet you can't provide any others. You're just conceding that there is nothing interesting about her character.

>>28549883
She developed greatly, it was subtle and not so straightforward as with May/Serena.

>>28549840
Most likely since the writes are assholes

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>>28549918
Manon is fucking precious and I've loved her since day one.

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>>28549918
>implying

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>yfw your pedo boyfriend is going to jail

>>28549883
If you actually watched DP she had development in terms of being more vain/arrogant at the start, then became depressed, and was then more fragile and insecure.

Dawn didn't need as huge a character shift as May or Serena because she was written closer to Ash.

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>>28549982

>jailing Kalos champion and hero

>>28549942
No she didn't. She was literally the same the first episode as in the last. She was literally just a reboot of May but with less development to her character and much MUCH more relaying on her relationship with Ash to make her good but stand alone and her development isn't even close to May's or Serena's

>>28549893
>decent writing

Wishful thinking.

>B-but
>intense serenafagging was just shitposters
>amour spamming was just shitposters
>amour haters were just shitposters provoking serenafags
>serena haters were just shitposters

Damage control: the thread. We get it, only true, respectful, decent, polite, smart serena fans around, anyone else is a shitposter.

>>28549893
I'm hoping they'll at least try to tie in XYZ Ash instead of just having him completely forget about everything that happened in Kalos

Something as simple as
>I've been running around just doing leagues and gyms and even when I was at my absolute best I still lost
>I know I'm a pretty good trainer, what am I missing?
>Fuck it, I'll take a break on a nice tropical island and re-learn the basics. It's embarrassing and degrading, but maybe I'll learn some new shit that will make me a more complete trainer

Ash is like a pretty good basketball player who relies too much on his dunks but probably needs to practice the fundamentals a little more.

Of course they probably won't do that, and he'll just go back to forgetting the entire type advantage system. Pikachu will lose to a level 5 Popplio.

>>28549844
Interesting. What was the line they added?

>>28549893
He's a downgrade.

>Mentor group leader role down to class retard with no book smarts
>Was clearly taller than Shota and Manon, the explicitly stated 10 year olds in XY, now he's down to zero aging again
>Trading sideburns for ROUNDED CHEEK Z's

I'm mad.

>>28550012

This is just wrong, but anyone can have their own onions.

>>28549994
I watched literally the whole DP right between the league episodes to get me hyped you retard. Dawn was good but her development was not even close to May or Serena

>>28550032
Stop being so new.

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>>28549778
buddy.

>>28550047
>it's wrong because I say so

it was not hard btfo you out.

When does sm start?

>>28550088
"November"

>>28550033
You do realize that the most probable thing is that they won't ackowledge any past adventure besides "oh I've seen that Pokemon before, I don't know the type, so I will attack it with the least effective one lmao!"

>>28550104
Yeah, I know. Just being optimistic while I can.

At least the games look good.

>>28550011
>hero
>he gathered megaenergy to control Zygarde

>>28550047
Onions? Like, ogres?

>>28550071
Underrated post

>>28550062
Dawn's development had her trying to live up to her mothers name while also carving out her own style. She was also less arrogant and vain as DP progressed.

>commercial breaks showed Charizard, Infernape, Sceptile, and Krookodile, with Ash Greninja as the answer twice
>Ash Greninja fails to beat a weakened Mega Charizard and also does nothing of note during the climax, at least enough to justify Olympia's prophecy
What did they mean by this?

>>28550121

But he saved Harisan, even Manon agrees he dindu nuffin

>>28550129
She compared herself to her mother is not development. Is was there from the start. Saying against her mother or putting it aside and understand that she need to got her own path would be development like Serena telling her mother she didn't want to be a rhyhorn racer which was developed from the start. This was never concluded or anything. It was just there from start to finish. And I didn't say she didn't have development. Just a lot less than Serena and May.

>>28550062
>May
May was boring as fuck and had literally no personality other than getting shit handed to her.

>>28550162
>FUCK THE FANS AND FUCK THE LITTLE BIT OF STORY IT HAD!

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>>28550162
>The execs have forced us to do this
>We didn't want XY to end like this
>Sorry to every one of you Pokemon fans

>>28550162
This probably irks me the most. For all the buildup about that prophecy bullshit and Satoshi and Greninja being special, they really dropped the ball hard with this one.

>>28550040
Nothing, that's just a TPCi apologist. Their dub is shit.

>>>28549761
Cathcart pls.

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>>28550129
>people still bitching about S&M
>when Smugchu is here

>>28550189
>can't beat a zard that KO ten mega evolutions in a row with only a super potion and a berry that cures poison and the last opponent being an elite 4 which he OHKO with blast burn
>literally did all the heavy work in the team flare arch

Still his strongest pokemon by a long shot

>>28549668
The writers in Japan are way better than TPCi's garbage pot of slang, rhymes, and alliterations. They're still shit, but the dub writers are an abomination.

>>28550162
It found Chespin :^)

Alan couldn't have saved Chespin if it weren't for Greninja. Thank you Greninja.

>>28550206
I actually feel this may have some merit.

plot twist: SM Ash frequently calls in oakmons for all kinds of riding shit and stuff

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>"the animation in SM is awful!"
>proceed to post a still of an inbetween as proof

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>>28550266

And thanks Charizard for saving them again. After Serena's shitmon Braixen too.

>>28550186
Yeah, later he suck my dick too, so what? Alan destroyed XY&Z in too many aspects

>>28550245
Oh I agree, the dubbers are shit, but there's a diamond in the shit

>>28550287
>it's one that actually makes the animation look good, too

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>>28548862
David productions is doing it.

>>28550162
>please help us, we want Satoshi to win but the fucking producer-san won't let us

>save us

>>28550287
People are saying and meaning the artstyle is garbage you massive retard. Not the animation

>>28550287
The problem with the SM anime is is that everything looks like an inbetween shot.

>>28550217
I am not arguing that the dub is good, I'm pointing out that even they remembered that a major franchise character already appeared and thought to keep something consistent between both appearences

>>28550287
>it was the best they could find to put in the trailer

Really makes you think.

>>28550294
>Charizard's smug ass face as it's carrying Ash.

It's laughing at everyone.

>>28550302
You realize the obvious reason Daigo was recast in XY was because his original voice was really unsuited for the fujoshit bait direction they were taking him in, right? Have you even seen the original AG episode he was in?

Ash really should have just became a Frontier Brain.

Can you imagine the SM dub?

So who's with me in tearing this piece of shit to shreds on a weekly basis

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>>28550364
DON'T YOU DARE

>>28550337
it's just the first teaser
the first XY teaser just had ash coming out of the plane and a few seconds of the starters being cute

>>28550318
Actually, there is no such thing as an "art style"
Art is a medium that comes in categories, such as anime. But Art can't be "styled" it's just a common misuse of both words

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>>28550314
I swear, I feel so fucking bad for the XY team. Can we contact them in any way to let them know there's some people out there who know this wasn't what they wanted to do?

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>>28550372

I have better things to do anon. But I will screencap some quality when I see it.

>>28550364
Combined with that shit animation it will almost literally be a Western show.

>>28550287
Fluid animation =/= good animation

If they're just animating scribbles then it's not good

It also won't stay fluid, first episodes have the best animations then it declines and you're stuck with average animation and shit art style.

>>28550372
I have better things to do like not watching SM, sorry.

>>28550346
No, if you could clarify that would be nice.
The diamond isn't the actor in the dub, it's the fact that they for some reason brought him back despite refusing to use any of the main cast

>>28550383
>there is no such thing as an "art style"
You are either incredibly pedantic or an idiot.

You can draw things in different styles. Calling it "drawing style" or "aesthetic style" doesn't change the point.