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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>Newfag Airing/viewing order guide:
http://pastebin.com/anb9qe55

>Sun and Moon Anime Preview
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_sunmoon/story/index.html

>Movie 19: Volcanion and the Ingenious Magearna [Jul 16th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWtBDuxrcS0
Excerpt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMWw5xiwW8

>LET'S GO SEE GEKKOUGA IN THE THEATER! SPECIAL GEKKOUGA VIDEO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj-34tfTiqo

Next episode:
>XY&Z44: We Start at Zero! Clemont's Decision!! [Oct 6]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_xyz/trailer/

Upcoming episodes:
>None listed

Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.

>What's the point of watching it anymore?
To enjoy the ride.

>Will Serena win da Ash?
Never give up until the very end.

>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>28544386
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POCKET MONSTERS 44 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_-_044_-_Paras_and_Parasect[H264_SUB][F7D3A8D8].mkv.torrent

MOVIE 1 TRAILER SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_Movie_1_Trailer_1[H264_SUB][518DF777].mkv.torrent

XY&Z37 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_037_The_Finals!_Satoshi_VS_Alan!![H264_720P][429D17E9].mkv.torrent

XY&Z38 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=841536

XY&Z39 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=843882

XY&Z40 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=845935

XY&Z41 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=847987

XY&Z42/43 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=850249

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z44: WE START AT ZERO! CITRON'S DECISION!! (OCTOBER 6TH)
>The incident caused by Flare has come to an end, and the Kalos region starts getting restored little by little. Clemont is also busy restoring the Gym and repairing the Citroid. On the day before the Gym is finally going to reopen, a boy comes to visit Clemont. The boy tells him that he challenged the Citroid to a gym battle once and lost against it, and that he has now come for a rematch...

UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 50 (Sep 18th)

XY&Z -MOVIE VER.- (SATOSHI)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6d63pkrvpvcqry3/XY%26Z_MOVIE_VER_%28Both_Sizes%29.zip

THE PIKACHU SONG (PIKACHU)
http://www.megafileupload.com/7hw9/The_Pikachu_Song.m4a

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA SOUNDTRACK
http://www.filedrop
per.com/movie19soundtrack

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA
CHAPTER 1: http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8
CHAPTER 2: http://imgur.com/a/cGC71
CHAPTER 3: http://imgur.com/a/l6bs1
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Alain needs his own series.
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What if there is ship bait with Mallow, Lillie and Lana? Could we even survive the waifuwars on top of the usual shitting on the show?
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>>28546005
Reminder that this will never be canon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-yIiu69850
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Music for Alola:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjiOtouyBOg
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>>28546086
He literally just had one.
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>>28546090
Triple shipbait

Imagine the waifuwars
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>>XY&Z45: Serena's Decision! I will stay with Satoshi!!
>>XY&Z46: A Confession Under the Stars! Ash & Serena Unite!!
>>XY&Z47: Accident in Lumiose City?! Satoshi and Pikachu in Hospital!!
>>XY&Z48: Satoshi and Pikachu Wakes Up!! Celebrations Commence!!
>>XY&Z49: The Heartbreaking Truth!! Satoshi Has Brain Damage?!
>>XY&Z50: Farewell, weird Kalos people! I am going to Alola to study!!
>>XY&Z51: Real Satoshi's Funeral, I will always love you!
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>>28546090
Satoshi is asexual.
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>>28546086
The Alan Show already ended.
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oh hey guys hows it going
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>>28546005
Did Shudo come back from his grave to haunt us?
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>>28546086
He should've been the one to go to Alola.
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>>28546100
A full one.
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Who /Lana/ here?

She's the best SM girl around, why do you not like her?
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Why do people still try to pretend as though this franchise has any kind of artistic integrity whatsoever? As if it isn't just a packaged product designed solely to appeal to as wide of an audience as possible?
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>>28546086
t. Tomioka

Shut the fuck up and go write for other anime that actually let you do your thing rather than having to conform to the most retarded status quo ever, you actually have some talent.
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>>28546110
Satoshi is for cute island boys.
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SOMEONE PLS KILL ME
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>>28546090
>Could we even survive the waifuwars
You've just survived multiple waifuwars, another one wouldn't hurt.
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Am I the only one who got used to the new Ash?
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>Ash is now the constant comedic relief character and only rarely has some serious scenes
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What did Lysandre mean by this?
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>>28546142
>Tomioka.
>The responsible for the Alan takeover.
>Talent.
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We matrix now boiz
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>>28546152

>another one wouldnt hurt
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>>28546110
No he just hasn't hit puberty or received any sex ed yet.
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From somebody who has actually watched all the battles and know how much work each mon did in their battles

ULTIMATE TIER
Pikachu, Charizard, Greninja, Infernape, Sceptile

GREAT TIER

Snorlax, Swellow, Krookodile

GOOD TIER

Heracross, Gible, Kingler, Squirtle, Bulbasaur, Pignite

MEDIUM TIER

Talonflame, Donphan, Buiziel, Quilava, Staraptor, Noctowl, Glalie, Hawlucha, Tauros, Bayleef, Gliscor, Muk, Corphish, Quilava

BAD TIER
Unfezant, Noivern, Goodra, Palpitoad, Leavanny, Boldore

SHITTY TIER
Snivy, Torkoal, Oshawott, Totodile, Scraggy, Torterra
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>>28546156
It's growing on me.
Surfin' Raichu here we go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjiOtouyBOg
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>>28546164
Nuttin
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>>28546107
This is now my headcanon.
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>>28546164
>I must stop the SM series from happening under any circumstances
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I honestly found this finale a bit boring but Alan was based as usual no complains for a moment there he felt like the MC with the love interest
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>OP forgot the thread title
It's sudoku time
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>>28546161
B-but it's comfy and fun anon!
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>>28546165
I can't tell whether he was responsible for Ash losing the league or if he intended otherwise. He wrote the Ash Greninja episodes so I suspect he wanted to actually do something with it instead of the immense disappointment it ended up being (both in the league and in the TF arc).

Also, he wrote the Ash/Paul rivalry, so yeah, he knows his stuff when he wants. Had Ash won over Alan and the Flare arc been better in some regards, I'd be singing his praises now.
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WHERE THE FUCK IS MALLOW
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>>28546186

>Glalie
>Medium Tier
>It still hasn't lost any single battle (only 2 times it was KO'd was in a tie)
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>>28546131
Lysandre's dead must be pokemon's most graphic dead scene ever

Seems like something out of DBZ
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>battling 101 class
>double battle tournament time, winners gets a special item
>lillie gets paired with satoshi
>lillie becomes pale at the thought of battling
>satoshi guarantees they'll win
>lillie sents out vulpix, satoshi chooses pikachu
>lillie quickly mops the floor before pikachu does a thing
>satoshi dumbfounded, lillie says she still hates battling
>proceed to win the tournament
>"lillie sugoi!"
>"ya-yamete!!!"
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She's a squid, she doesn't love you!
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So, can we all agree that Alan was best character in Pokemon?
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I was waiting like a retard the whole episode for Alan to say Dragonnn Claww so i could scream at my PC but NO he just spammed flamethower all the time
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>>28546255
Alain is the equivalent of a paper bag with shit inside. Dog shit.
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>>28546216
Good thing the op pasta has a backup of the title so catalog searching still works
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>>28546107
>>XY&Z52: Back in Pallet Town! Who is this weird frog? Oak'd!!
>>XY&Z53: Kenji at Kasumi's Gym? Missed Him Again!! Oh Well, to Alola!!
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>>28546231
Little busy right now.
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WHY WONT YOU HELP ME????
>WHY WONT YOU HELP ME???
WHY WONT YOU HELP ME???
>WHY WONT YOU HELP ME???
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>>28546232
SHIT you're right. Glalie should be moved to GOOD and borderline GREAT
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>>28546231
In the kitchen where she belongs.
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Also, I've never seen a character so screwed over from the climax of a story such as Shota was since Wally in Pokespe.

Oh wait, I guess Shota is kind of anime Wally. Makes sense.
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She's going to stay!
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>>28546274
Yeah. Just remember to fix it next thread.
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So are people still gonna argue he's not 10? Because he's very clearly 10 now.
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>>28546300
Serenafags being this desperate is getting pretty sad.
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>>28546255

yes


>>28546249

great fanfic
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>>28546174
>Sex ed episode
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tell me /padt/ how badly did ash fuck shit up
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>>28546300
Not even meme magic will save her.
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How many medals do you have, smartass?
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i'm the only who doesn't like Pikachu new haircut?
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>>28546300
With me!
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>>28546120
Copy that
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>>28546325
He didn't fuck shit up.
His shit was fucked up.
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>Jessie almost said the twerps
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>>28546249
>Lillie actually being an amazing battler

I could get behind that, as long as it doesn't lead to more shipping shit.
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>>28546330
Cute, what does it say
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>>28546330
>medals
Spic please.
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>>28546283
Terufuu needs to do her some justice.
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>>28546120
>"We just got a A+ on our exams!
>"Cool i just saved the world from a genocidal maniac alongside Two Champions, a Elite Four Member, eight gym leaders, some of my companions and the winner of the Lumiose Conference, not to mention i was the Runner-up of said conference, but yeah your A+ is pretty cool sugoi and all that, oh also using the power of previews i learn how to use Z-moves within like a day of arriving here even though you guys don't even have Z-rings yet"
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>>28546325
Your shoop skills are lacking.
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>>28546300
Whatever happens the end of XYZ would be anticlimactic. Serena would likely be forgotten
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>Serena leaves
>not only that but SM looks absolutely SHIT

I hope you're all very unhappy.
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>>28546408
Like ashes championship?
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>>28546186
>swellow
>good tier
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>>28546311
Better denial than suicide
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>>28546427
BTFO
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>>28546424
>Serena leaves.
>Sm looks good.
>Alan is marching towards oblivion.
I'm quite happy.
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>>28546340

>who doesn't like pikachu's new look
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>>28546005
>come back to thread for first time in a while every since that embarrassing league loss

>that trailer

holy shit how mad are you guys lmao?
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>>28546424
>Serena leaves
I'm happy anon. VERY HAPPY
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>Nishiyama was set to animate SM001
>he decided to quit after he was forced to change XY&Z38
>they got his perpetually drunk brother instead
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>>28546131
>Not now...! IT'S NOT THE END YET! Move! YOU MUST MOOOVE!
I think it was his last words....
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>>28546446

>im actually quite happy
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>>28546454
I'm very happy
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>>28546457
>Nishiyama was set to animate SM001
>he decided to quit after he was forced to change XY&Z38

is this fucking true
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>>28546400
>alongside Two Champions, a Elite Four Member, eight gym leaders, some of my companions and the winner of the Lumiose Conference

>Wow it sounds like they did all the work and you just happened to be there
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>>28546429
Swellow was Ash's best AG pokemon after Sceptile. It's actually Ash's strongest bird with the best winrate. In the league, it took down four Pokemon from Katie and Tyson on its own. That's incredible.
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"Corni"
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>>28546424
But I wanted Serena to leave.
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>>28546144
For Lillie's brother.
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>>28546455
wait, shouldn't Citron apear instead of the citroid?
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>>28546474
Probably not, but he did say XY&Z38 was his last episode as animation director. Might just have been hired by other studios for other anime.
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>tfw already immunized against shitty anime
I've trained all my life by watching crappy anime and enjoying it just for the girls. No matter how potentially shit SM is, I'm game.
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>>28546475
>"Yeah sure you keep saying that buddy, i was at ground zero while you guys were studying for your test, i am basically considered a national hero in Kalos now."
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>>28546457
His name is fucking Nishitani. There's nobody named Nishiyama working on the show.
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>>28546475
>"Yeah, that's what a lot of people think. They even think that faggot Alan did most of the work even though all he really did was run in a straight line and nearly get impaled if I hadn't saved his ass"
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Its all finished...
I did it

Adamant, CGO, amourtards, shipfags, basedfags, counter trolls, korrinafags, dubfags, megacharizardYfags, leaguefags, ashfags, homofags, bonniefags....

All gone...

Here I am, standing over my defeated enemies
I ask myself: "was it worth it"?
Yes....it was all worth it
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>Frog prophecy was instead girl with a denenenenene prophecy and now they are making a congratulations dinner for Alan
What's next? they will make Ash fall for him?
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The effort some anons takie to shit on the show is bordering on self-parody.
Who is shitposting the shitposters?
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>>28546279

>Neckikouga.png
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>>28546515
Alright, fucking Nishitani then. You know the one.
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Holy shit based as fuck
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ULTIMATE TIER - mons who have repeatedly been shown to be Ash's strongest with impressive wins against super strong opponents
Pikachu, Charizard, Greninja, Infernape, Sceptile

GREAT TIER - mons who are a notch under the above, with really great winrates
Snorlax, Swellow, Krookodile, Glalie

GOOD TIER - Good winrates and impressive battles, but again, a notch below those above
Heracross, Kingler, Squirtle, Bulbasaur, Pignite

MEDIUM TIER - mons who never been shown to be weaklings, nor have they been shown to be super strong
Talonflame, Donphan, Buiziel, Quilava, Staraptor, Noctowl, Hawlucha, Tauros, Bayleef, Gliscor, Muk, Corphish, Quilava, Gible

BAD TIER - mons who have struggled and never had any impressive and important wins
Unfezant, Noivern, Goodra, Palpitoad, Leavanny, Boldore

SHITTY TIER - mons who lost the majority of their fights and were shown to be true weaklings
Snivy, Torkoal, Oshawott, Totodile, Scraggy, Torterra

Fucking fixed.
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>>28546525
Honestly you're the real hero here. I never took your bait but your perseverance was legendary. Now that I'm over all the shit we got thrown, I'm kinda happy that it paid off for you.
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>YOU'RE NOT WORTHY!
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What if after graduating from school he's allowed to participate in a league tournament?
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>>28546533
>they are making a congratulations dinner for Alan
What the fuck? What's the deal with all this ducksucking? Fucking Hell, he aid the bad guys and now they are hailing him as the only hero fuck this bullshit end end end this.
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It looks like the Origins style, don't see why there's a big fuss over it
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>>28546454
It's different, but intriguing. I'm not mad.

Though I would have preferred something that was more like "XY in Hawaii"
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Watching all the Amourfags get BTFO was amazing at first, but now it just feels empty.
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>>28546578
It looks like Digimon to me.
>don't see why there's a big fuss over it.
People need something to shitpost, you know.
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>>28546591
>yfw the next trailer confirms Serena coming along
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>>28546577
>dinner gets crashed by all the relatives of people Zygarde killed demanding to be handed Alan
>Ash makes some speech about how he was the coolest guy and did literally nothing wrong
>Alan goes "Yeah... sorry" and everyone forgives him
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>>28546533
>>28546577
I don't believe this. Must be some context you're missing here.
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>>28546525
So you will enjoy SM with us or your work is done and you will quit the anime?
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>>28546525
Hail Stale!
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>>28546454
Not yet mad.
First my chance to get genuinely mad will come in December.
But when I'll begin to hate, you'll see it.
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Tell me guys, why does it look that the animation for SM looks like absolute garbage? What the fuck!
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>>28546609
I hope it is. I can't wrap my head around all this fucking asskissing. Alan is truly the worst mary sue ever. He is like a mary sue exposed to Fukushima radiation.
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>>28546604
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>>28546525
what happened to adamant? did he give up?
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>>28546629
Explains how Memezard literally never fainted after Act III.
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>>28546573
That school in OS made you enter the league without badges. But seems like Alola has no competition so far, maybe world championship? Isn't red and other champions suppose to come back in the game?
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>>28546649
Alan must be someone's self insert. It's the only way to explain this excess even for a Gary Stu.
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>>28546591
I no longer feel happy or sad about everything that's going on till now, I just feel exhausted.
Well, at least I'm going to miss XY
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>>28546624
>inb4 some pseudo elitist tells you that the animation is great just the art style is different
>they'll desperately try to defend the art style while intentionally forgetting how good the animation was during XY while not sacrificing art
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>>28546650
Maybe Ash will actually try to build an Alolan league from scratch.
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>>28546591
You have no vision.
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>>28546642
He was here earlier and translated a summary
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Am I'm the only who thinks the new season looks like fun? It's so different from everything, much like the new games themselves

It could end up being good.
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>>28546699
I can kind of picture Lana Kiawe Sophocles and Mallow as a Elite Four, knowing the anime i wouldn't be shocked if Lillie were to be the Champion but ideally Ash would be Champion and Lillie would be the regional professor or something.
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>>28546746
It looks like fun, but it also looks like a huge fuck you to anyone who enjoyed DP or XY.
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>>28546729
Goodbye.
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>>28546699
And he'll still lose it.
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>>28546610
Im done as Stale, that's for sure.
The XY era dies, so does me

I'll watch the anime for sure
And comment from time to time but not longer with the hyper autismo

Maybe I'll have some cameos in hypest moments, but that's it. Stale is done, he has accomplished his mission and it's ready to die

It's been a hell of a battle, but I'm very happy with the results

I just hope someone will take my footsteps and become the terror of the new generation of the anime. I left my throne to the strongest autistic
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>>28546746
Same here. Fuck the haters
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>>28546697
but seriously, my eyes hurts every time I see that piece of crap, it's seems way worse than BW. I hope this somehow becomes more bearable because now this seems like the biggest bitchslap since Ash lost the league
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>People are still shitting on a legitimately good arc (especially considering what they were given to work with from the source material) because Ash lost the league
I understand that you guys are upset but Jesus.
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I hope that they won't reuse animations in SM as much as in XYZ.
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I'll never forget her.
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>Alain helps to cause the problem in the first place by working with Lysandre
>Ash and Greninja locate the chespin, and therefore the method of stopping the thing
>Ash, Alain and several others try and fight to the thing
>Not enough, gym leaders and champ help.
>Get to thing, Alain runs up and takes out the chespin, requiring Ash to essentially stand around like a faggot and just watch
>Doesn't actually work, but Zygarde saves the day in the end anyway
>Alain is the fucking hero, somehow, despite not actually doing anything except running in a straight line to a small pokemon, that Ash could have done just as easily since he was literally right there

Fuck that.
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>>28546134
I love her too bad we didn't get to see her in the trailer...
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>>28546746
I get the same vibe. And to be honest, XY tried to be serious and dramatic and gave us this, a forced drama with Alan, the most boring character, as a protagonist. I prefer Pokemon doing what it does best, a fun, lighthearted romp. Also, i welcome a more relaxed Ash who can show emotions instead of a battled droid.

But the Hive Mind has decided against the show, so we are in the minority here.
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>>28546746
I am looking forward to it, if Ash is reset i may dislike it or just choose to disregard XY in favour of just enjoying the fun, but of course that depends on whether or not i enjoy the characters and humor.
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This anime shits on the games lore harder than ever.

Fucking trial captains are getting schooled by someone who failed to become a trial captain.
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>>28546005
SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT, THIS STYLE SUCKS, SHIT SHIT, POKEMON IS DEAD, WHAT IS THAT SHIIITTTTTTTT??? WHAAAAT?
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>inb4 Lysandre survived
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>>28546591
>now it just feels empty
I told you before.
In a war between hope and despair, when hope wins, all have won.
And when despair wins, everybody loses
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>>28546791
I actually thoroughly enjoyed the TF arc and XY as a whole. But losing the league was pointless and kicking Serena to the curb like this is also pointless, which by itself isn't too bad. But this awful art style goes too far.
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>>28546804
All this... In the end for nothing? It feels so much worse than it is.
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Is there a ship name for Ash x Linne?
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>>28546810
What a load of bullshit. I hate Alan so much. I would take Cameron or Tobias over this dense faggot mary sue.
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>team rocket is going to have a mimikyu

I hope this stays and not just a one off episode, I expect Jessie will have it whilst James may get a Bewear for his gimmick of his pokemon loving him.
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>>28546791
The arc had good moments but also sacrificed lots of things that could've been good. I won't harp on it too much because part of that was obviously due to lack of time. Stuff like Ash Greninja not amounting to anything more specific than any other Pokémon at play though was genuinely shitty, the buildup surrounding it got trashed twice. Where are all the people saying its buildup was always intended to be for the TF arc now?
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>>28546729
i want to fuck serena and braixen simultaneously
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Did Valerie just get cucked by Alexa's sister? Or were they never an item in the first place
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>>28546300
>I like Serena over all the other girls
>After seeing Sun and Moon Anime, I'm not sure I want her to stay.

Maybe its best she stays pure in Kalos
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>>28546824
But XY have always been fun too, it's not until XY&Z when the serious and dramatic stuff kicks in.
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>>28546860
Someone, please bring this lady some salts.
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>>28546900
Those two are so cute together, KIDS WHEN???
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>>28546900
The anime always pushed Viola X Grant, Valerie and Grant never even had implied interaction unlike the games.
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>>28546824
>forced drama
>forced

This is shitposting.
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>>28546746
Nah, lots of people do. I'm sure some people legitimately dislike what they've seen, but a lot of the hate is very clearly Stale and other shitposters.
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>>28546900
Where the fuck is Alexa anyway?
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>>28546865
I mean when they kicked Dawn, May and Iris to the curb it wasn't as painful because we all knew beforehand. But Serena, that made her departure even worse. That's the decision that she might regret making. It's like they all want us to suffer the most and feel despair.
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>>28546909
Agreed.
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>>28546791
While I liked the arc as a whole, it's complete fucking bullshit that Alan, not Satoshi, was the one to save the day at the end AGAIN while Gekkouga did nothing of value AGAIN. It's such a bizarre and just wrong end to the finale.
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where's the link to the preview to SM?
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>>28546107
>>>XY&Z49: The Heartbreaking Truth!! Satoshi Has Brain Damage?!
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>>28546909
Don't worry, she will get cameo.
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>>28546945
She died in Lumiose.
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>>28546942
Stale is the only one shitposting about how bad it looks, the other shitposters are the only ones defending it. Seriously, justify this image to me? Tell me why you think Ash looks better like this than in XY.
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>>28546746
>>It could end up being good.
Of course it can be good.
Art style seems to be real problem, but they can offset that.
For example by not making Ash a dumbass again.
Or giving bearable closure to Amour and not starting new such subplot off the bat.

If they will manage to not waste all those twenty years, I'll accept that.
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>>28546945
Didn't we see her in XY&Z39 when Lysandre made his TV announcement?
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>>28546975
Greninja still did more than Alain actually did. He found Chespin, Alain would have got impaled if Ash hadn't saved him, and even then all he did was literally pick up a small pokemon.

The idea that he was the one that saved the day at all is incredibly forced.
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>>28546122
No, even Shudo would weep in his grave seeing this. He didn't want a rejected Steven Universe SM Ash. OS Ash was nothing like this at all...even BW Ash will probably be less grating than SM Ash. Fuck it all.
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>>28546947
The thing that hurts the most is that she's been pushed to the sidelines since the league started. This is the conclusion that her crush gets? It's bizarre.

>>28546975
Yeah, I really thought we were going to see the orange shuriken again. I can't understand at all what the writers were thinking.
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>>28546992
>Only shitposters and meanies would like something I dislike.
Sure, buddy. We are all to get you.
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>mfw I liked the trailer
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>>28546989
If she's stuck in Kalos, how is she going to get a cameo and a special episode without it being boring? Most people watch Serena just for the Amourfaggotry
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You see this??? This is shipping. This ship has more change of happening than Amourshipping.
SHE EVEN BLUSHED BASED ALAN PROTECTING MANON'S SMILE
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>>28547021
>No, even Shudo would weep in his grave seeing this
That's great. I just hope it would've been cause by Ash winning the league instead.
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Serena's character arc was about getting over her childish crush on Ash. It was never going anywhere, and was never intended to go anywhere. Shippers are just idiots.
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>>28547021
>Steven Universe Ash.
Oh boy. This is advanced autismo.
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>>28547042
>mfw not linking the trailer
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>>28546992
Not him, but I like that they turned Ash into a latino with a mustache and everything.

They've obviously realized how important it is to show varied races from all walks of life. This equality will only boost their ratings and approval which will lead to greater revenue which will lead to better games. How could you literally be this ass blasted over this?
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>>28546998
But they've always waste them every single time.
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>>28546992
He looks different from XY, not worse.
I bet you also freaked out about eyes in 2010, when BW was announced.
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>>28546992
>Stale is the only one shitposting about how bad it looks

wuuu wuut wut?
I haven't said a single thing about the anime, sauf I will watch it in hypest moments or from time to time

Don't fucking lie, stupid piece of shit
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>>28547042
The tears of the faggots crying over this give it a special flavor.
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>>28547032
We still have a couple more episodes to go. At least one of them will be Serena-centric.
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>Smile Status: Protected
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>>28546559

>ultimate tier
>greninja, who did NOTHING IMPRESSIVE against anyone and is pathetic in original forme
>sceptile and infernape in the same tier as charizard and pikachu
>SQUIRTLE, BULBASAUR AND PIGNITE GOOD TIER
>goodra bad tier

Holy fuck, what a shit. >>28546186 is still far more accurate.

>>28546429
Swellow is Ash's best bird and did a lot in its matches, even at league.
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This timeline sucks
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>>28547090
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>>28547079
No.
AG brought some of the previous good back
So did DP and by a huuuuuuuge stretch BW.
XY took it even further, giving us really competent Ash that made us believe he can really nail it this time.
If SM will fail to do this, we'll need to do something. Maybe even going full sickboyr
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>>28546604
Zyfw she has the same Ash retarded design
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>>28547066
That's what SM Ash looks like. Holy fuck, it's a massive step down from XY Ash's animation. Even Kanto Ash and BWS2 Ash was animated better than this crap.

>>28547063
Ash never won the League, though, so Shudo's probably smug about his continuous losses at this point.
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Anyone here dislike Ash's new art style?
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>>28547032
That really has to be some of the most convoluted writing I've came across. Unless if it's shown Serena gets over her crush on Ash. Serena has been pushed to the sidelines too much and she's back at square one. Shame she wasn't a co-star of the series like Dawn.
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>fat kid is going to be ash's best mate in SM
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>>28547062
I like both pairings. And I don't even like Alan much, but this shit is too cute.
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>>28547036
>people who have the same posting style posting buzzwords and lazily defending the art style against the majority
>on 4chan, where shitposters are all contrarian

Seriously look at this guys post. It's shitposting 101, he doesn't even try to say anything about the art style.

>>28547080
>He looks different from XY, not worse.

lel

>I bet you also freaked out about eyes in 2010, when BW was announced.

I didn't, and that was actually nowhere near as bad as this. Even OS and XY Ash look more similar than any Ash and SM Ash.
>>28547088
And there you go, the shitposters do defend SM.
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>>28546998
>giving bearable closure to Amour
>not waste all those twenty years

I know the series is very difficult to follow, anon, but at some point during those 20 years you probably should have realized that the girl travelling with Ash is never the same.
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>Alan the baby is coming
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>Last league Ash will ever compete in
>Right before a complete reboot of the series to a retarded school setting
>Still not allowed to win
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>>28547132
What? Didn't you read the damn thread, we are in "it sucks it's the worst thing ever bwaaaaa!" phase.
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>>28547132
Me
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>>28546164
He saw that SM was the future, and the only way to prevent it was by destroying and recreating the world.

Lysandre was just trying to save us. He's the hero the anime needed and deserved. Godspeed, you glorious lion-man.
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>>28547154
>still not allowed to be the hero in the villain arc after he wasn't allowed to win the league either
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If the show actively tried to ship Lillie with a character that WASN'T Ash, how would you feel?
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pokemon origins subs got blocked from youtube. how will we watch horrible subs now?
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>>28547156
>hahaha look mom, im making people on the internet mad
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>>28547173
Fine. Plus she isn't human so whatever.
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>>28547144
>Hey guys, Our War Game has shit art, Hosoda a shit.

This is how retarded you are.
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>>28547172
>Despite doing more than the supposed hero did
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>>28547132
Yes, it's atrocious. SM easily has the worst Animation in the entire Anime I've ever seen: praying they up the quality over the Trailer & Poster, but I doubt it.

>>28547139
Can't wait to see what garbage voice TPCi gives him in the dub, since the dub has become a parody at this point.
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>>28547144
>lel
Well, I like how his eyes is not half of his face.
Z-s are worse.
Hair looks alright for me, never cared about sideburns.
I guess it's preferences.
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>that fucking backflip
Damn, Alan is actually pretty /fit/
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>>28547144
I'm going to give it the benefice of the doubt
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>>28546454
I'm not mad.
Just worried.
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ITT: Crybabies.
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Pokemon Origins youtube channel went down just now, is there anywhere to watch the hour-long special subbed?
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>even Rica tweeted about Ash's appearance to try and calm the shit tossing
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>yfw Volt began playing
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Did they specify what time D U B O N L Y releases tomorrow?
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>>28547173
Ecstatic. Even more so if yuri, but that's never gonna happen in pokemon.
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>>28546804
Was this from an episode
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>>28547173
Fantastic. Just stay away from Satoshi.
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>>28547145
I hope for something that won't be a middle finger to all of us.
That she'll be acknowledged.
Even letter written/received by Ash could do.
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>>28547227
>implying it hasn't already
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>>28547219
>not posting what she said
>not linking the tweet

What is the point of your post
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>>28547219
The only I'm watching this shit is by reading Rica's tweet every day a new episode airs
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>>28546086

Go back to write DBSuper, Tomioka.
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>>28547219
It means it's bad in nipland.

I hope the whole fuss will make something better.
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>>28547251
>>28547227
*Non-subtext yuri
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>>28546186
>memefrog
>ultímate tier
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Why was Clemont even in this shot, none of his Pokémon were doing anything when this happened?
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>>28547221
>mfw it will be the last time they play Volt in the show
And it reminds me of how much fun we had before everything went downhill
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>>28546784
>It's been a hell of a battle, but I'm very happy with the results
Hehe, even if my ship Amourshipping didn't became canon i feel happy for you. Anyways this has happened to me four times already with other ships, i can't even been mad anymore, i just don't have anything to ship now, probably i'm going to stay bored until i find my next otp.
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>>28547243
Holy shit for the moment I thought it's SM Satoshi and Pikachu.
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>>28547255
Talking out of his ass to reinforce the hate circlejerk.
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>>28547225
Don't think so, but I can tell Johnny Yong Bosch is literally same-voicing Blue in the trailer. Johnny has all of one voices for all his teenage age plus roles lately. His Brock was also him using the same voice he does for everyone in Origins, so I'm not looking forward to his Blue voice. I have a feeling Lucien Dodge from Origins will be better than him.

At any rate, though, I will say Bosch is a thousand times less grating and better a VA than the Seasons 9-XYZ dub crew TPCi (TAJ/DuArt) cast for the Anime, so the Generations dub should be a thousand times more watchable than the main Anime one at least.
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>>28547243
Which is why he is already shirtless in the thirty second preview, Ash got no time for staying true to one hoe.
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>>28547246
Yeah I mean, he gets letters from Misty, Dawn and May all the time after all.
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THREE WEEKS OF THIS GARBAGE

THREE. FREAKING. WEEKS.

HOW THE HELL IS /padt/ GOING TO SURVIVE
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>tfw no FYUCHA FAITA ending song by Alan.
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>>28546207
Alan is literally the Yuya of the Pokemon Dimension now. Doing backflips and grabbing Chespin like an action card.
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>Red in Generations wins all leagues
>defeats all the regional teams by himself
>he's shown defeating AU versions of Alan and Tobias
>at the end he's shown up older and married to his waifu
>Generations is the way TPC says to the anime fanbase "Here are all the things you would love watching Ash do, but we're making Red do them instead, because fuck you, enjoy your reset."
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Fun fact: Alexa will probably never find out.
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>>28547191
Wow you blew away that strawman completely! OWG was made in 2000, the art style fit the series / movie. XY's character design is better than SM's, so it makes no sense to regress like this without pissing off fans from the previous series
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>>28547287
DP Brock syndrome: Clemont has become useless for the most part in XYZ. It's also what happened to Cilan in the shitty Da! fillers.
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>>28547294
So stale was a mistyfag?
Should've seen it coming
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>>28547312
The point is they went very far trying to differentiate her from others.
I want them to keep up with that.
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>>28547225
Generations looks like it's getting a funimation style dub, like Origins did. So take from that what you will
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>>28547304
>not being in the thread when the tweet was linked

Lurk more newfag. https://twitter.com/rica_matsumoto3/status/776407594113957888
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>>28547316
Only the west cares about Red/Origins/Generations. Nobody fucking likes Ash here.

It flopped in Japan. They're completely fine with Ash.
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>>28547313
Pure. Raw. Shitposting. POWER!
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>>28547227
>implying
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>>28547221
Literally the corniest part of the episode.
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>>28546120
i become meguca?
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So it's safe to say that Zygarde killed Lysandre, right? In addition to Ash and Alan ordering their Pokémon to attack him to destroy his arm device.

>>28547319
What's wrong with his mouth on the bottom right one?
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>>28547315
>XY was actually the tale of Pokemon Yuya and his Ruri, the Leprechaun

Egao ga soko ni aru kagiri
WANNA KEEP ON SHININ'
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>>28547361
Nah he is still alive
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>>28547361
It's the art style
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>>28547339
At least the Generations dub is definitely going to be better than how TPCi handle the main Anime & Movie dubs with DuArt: ironically, 4Kids handled those the best, but then again 4Kids' budget for the dub was much higher than TAJ or DuArt's are.

Can Viz/SDI PLEASE stop having Bosch and Price using the one voice they use for all their roles, though? It's boring and I'm tired of hearing Ichigo and Lu Bu in every damn role they do.
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>>28547353
>implying image related wasn't
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>>28547341
I know she twitted that, but you are using it to install there's a huge outcry in Japan against S&M that will destroy the show and reinstall XY.
It's not gonna happen.
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You know, the artstyle looks kinda like Ponyo.
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>>28547337
>Keep up with that

They will.

By never aknowledging her again.
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>THREE WEEKS OF STALE
>THREE WEEKS OF DUPLICA
>THREE WEEKS OF SCOTT
>THREE WEEKS OF FALSE-FLAGGING
>THREE WEEKS OF BAIT
>THREE WEEKS OF STAY VS GO FOR SERENA EVEN THOUGH IT IS 100% CONFIRMED THAT SERENA IS LEAVING
>THREE WEEKS OF WHINING ABOUT ASH'S NEW LOOK
>THREE WEEKS OF NOBODY WANTING TO ADMIT THAT THE NEW ANIMATION IS EXACTLY LIKE DIGIMON'S ARTSTYLE
>THREE WEEKS OF NEW THREAD WARS, COPYPASTA ERRORS, AND EVERYONE NOT CARING ANYMORE
>THREE WEEKS OF PEOPLE SAYING THEY HAVE ALREADY DROPPED THE S/M ANIME YET THE THREAD FOR THE VERY FIRST EPISODE WILL LIKELY REACH OVER 800 POSTS BEFORE IT GETS ARCHIVED
>THREE WEEKS OF LEAGUE BUTTHURT
>THREE WEEKS OF ALAIN BUTTHURT
>THREE WEEKS OF COMPLETE AND UTTER NONSENSE
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>>28546107
>xy ep 49
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>>28547227
Isn't Dawn x Cynthia pretty much considered canon
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Do they have enough money to keep XYZ quality for SM? If not, then it's understandable that art got messier, animation looks good still.
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>>28547343
>nobody likes Ash here.
I like Ash.
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>>28547353
I got to say that Viola flying with Vivillon was pretty silly considering the situation.
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>>28546161
>Throughout the SM series Ash is just known to be that idiotic fool
>Cue Team Skull/Aether Arc
>None of the other kids know how to deal with criminals or threats
>Pan over to Ash with a serious look on his face
>Saves the day by showing off his serious battling skills
>Bonus points if he gets to bring back his old mon and show them off.
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>>28547401
so the same thing we do every week, then?
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>>28547361
>What's wrong with his mouth on the bottom right one?

In the art style SM is in things like mouth size aren't consistent. I don't mean that negatively, but the whole point of having a style like that is that consistency becomes less important which improves animation quality.

>>28547398
You're the only one who has said anything like that, there was just a big backlash everywhere about the new character designs.
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Give me 10 reasons for why people should care about Serena.
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>>28547401
It's like all of this could've been avoided by the staff not fucking literally everything up by making unpopular choices!
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>>28546186
Nah nigger, here's how it is

>ELDER GOD TIER
Infernape, Pikachu

>GOD TIER
Charizard, Snorlax, Greninja

>GREAT TIER
Bulbasaur, Quilava, Noctowl, Sceptile, Swellow, Buizel, Gible, Talonflame, Krookodile, Pignite, Leavanny

>GOOD TIER
Tauros, Bayleaf, Donphan, Corphish, Glalie, Staraptor, Gliscor, Boldore, Scraggy, Hawlucha, Kingler

>AVERAGE TIER
Squirtle, Muk, Torterra, Snivy, Palpitoad, Unfezant

>SHIT TIER
Totodile, Torkoal, Oshawott, Goodra, Noivern
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>>28547423

Yeah, pretty much.
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>>28547398
Nah SM will just get reduced to a weekly 10 min shorts
And I'm sure they wouldn't use this art style for the 20th anniversary movie right?
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>>28547408
We'll see about the animation, remember that things might change a little in that aspect between previews and final cuts, it happened in XY even.

>>28547415
t. Serena
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Is it "I" or "we"?
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>>28547408
It's Pokemon, they have enough money to do whatever they want, but they choose to make the Anime & Movies based off them soulless, stagnant, unwatchable tripe at this point.

Honestly, if Generations was actually a real Anime and not just 3-5 minute short shit, I'd be more inclined to watch that (the dub is not going to be TPCi's usual shit with DuArt, either, so that's a definite plus).
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>>28547405
It's pretty popular yes, but I don't remember them, or any other yuri couple. going out on a date or kissing on screen.

Now granted, no hetero ship does this in pokemon either, other than some of the parental characters, and even that's pretty limited, so I'm not really all that disappointed about it.
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>>28547395
>Charizard saved Braixen
>Pikachu rode on its back
>even Greninja got carried when it fell from the vines

Wow, I didn't know they brought back Ash's Charizard.
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>>28547401
Let's take a break from this place, anon. follow me to Alola. Let's go ski surfing with Ash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_MWVZBgoxg
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>>28547418
>Throughout the SM series Ash is just known to be that idiotic fool
Stop this meme. He gets Z-ring early and quickly learns how to use it, they're showing him as experienced trainer obviously.
No need for reset, because there is no gyms and rivals.
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>>28547408
That's the thing, they probably don't because while XY didn't flop it also wasn't as successful as it could have been. But even if their budget was supposed to be the same, they certainly aren't paying as much as they were for XY.
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>>28547319
>Hey guys, K-On! has shit art, Horiguchi a shit. Previous Kyoani's shows had better art so it's a regress.

This is how retarded you are.
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>>28547341
I don't understand. What was she trying to do here? That makes it look even worse when you put it next to the other ones like that. I'd expect that image to be something someone from here put together to shit on it.
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>>28547442
>infernape
>over Ash-greninja
>Goodra and Noiven in shit tier

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA how delusional are DPnostalgiashitters? Assmad much?
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>>28547442
Nah, bring Infernape down to God. Only Pikachu deserves the top spot.

Bring down Greninja one spot and replace it with Sceptile.
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>>28547448
If it's the artstyle from now on then yes I'm afraid.
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>>28547080
BW wasn't really a thing to get mad about but at least the his whole design wasn't drastically changed like they did now in SM
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>>28547418
Hm. Hope, the quintessential Human delusion.
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I just don't see how Ash is going to go from the accomplished synchro master to some dumb kid in Alola. How is that even going to work animation-wise?

Will we have the final episodes of XYZ in the new animation style, or will Alola ash be shown in XYZ style and then magically in SM style in SM EP 1?
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>>28547475
Someone remind me where it's actually stated that Z-moves are difficult to perform? For all we know it's literally something a five year old can do, it's just not common outside of Alola. Maybe the crystals are just rare in other places or something.
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>>28547492
>bringing greninja down
>when it literally is his strongest mon
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>>28547343
For you, sir.
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>>28547486
Eh, SM one looks eerily close to BW...
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>>28547486
>I'd expect that image to be something someone from here put together to shit on it.
Wait a minute...
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>>28547442
Torterra and Torkoal are the only mons that deserve to be in shit tier.
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>>28547492
>bring Infernape down to God
You seem to forget how much of a monster he was near the end of DP, he was near unstoppable until Tobias came aroun.
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>>28547508
Probably the second one, just like BW Ash with XY clothes
It will be painful
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>>28546950
maybe Serena will get a cameo/arc in aloha.. unlike iris who is stuck forever in johoto limbo
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>>28547480
>it also wasn't as successful as it could have been.
I wonder if that's why they will revert to SoL Yokai Watch style.
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>>28547535
Biggest feat is Electrivire. Sceptile deserves its spot more.
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>>28547484
>whoa guys they didn't change the art from a 4koma when they made an anime adaptation

To be fair, I'm probably dealing with someone who hasn't even read the manga or doesn't even know it exists. (Look I can strawman too!)
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>>28547508
Maybe a different canon...? Although that's very unlikely.
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>>28547401
>THREE WEEKS OF LILLIE FANCY TEA PARTIES!
You forgot the best part.
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>>28547486
Because she's paid to shill the anime, and the way to do it is praising it even when you know it isn't true.

>OG Satoshi
>a better OG Satoshi
>the best OG Satoshi
>dumb Satoshi
>Best Satoshi
>JUST Satoshi
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>>28547508
Thats a good question. We saw Ash in his xy outfit in bw. If it does it would just reminded people how much better the xy design is compared to the shit tier sm Ash.
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>>28547535
>near the end of DP
That monkey was winning Ash gyms almost single handedly as a fucking Chimchar
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>>28547469
>Alan's Charmeleon died at some point
>he replaced it with Ash's Charizard who was flying by
See? Ash did win the league! :^)
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>Three weeks of butthurt, salt, shitposting galore, autismos droning and droning about how S&M raped them in the ass.
I think I will go away some time.
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>>28547542

>BW Ash with XY clothes

Does this exist?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieNaTn2ekCg
Ash already fucking went to school
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>>28547534
Torterra gets too much hate, he got a couple of great wins as a Turtwig/Grotle and people keep forgetting that.
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>>28547532
Compared to the others SM Ash sucks
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>>28547535
And so was Ash-greninja you retarded DPnostalgiashitter but Ash-greninja was way more powerful unlike Infernape beating an electivire as its strongest opponent lmao
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>>28547571
You don't wanna see it
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>>28547486
She got baited into posting a pic with the opposite meaning of the one she thought.
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>>28547221
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>>28547508
It'll work the same way it did from DP to BW.

The latter, of course. The dub will become even worse than in XY, too, lol.
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Reminder that they did this two weeks in a row...
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>>28547523
I may have been too harsh on the frog but goddamn, I can't help but be disappointed. Fine let it keep the spot. But only Pikachu at the top and Sceptile up one spot.
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So wait, are they in the Lumiose Badlands right now?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg9Mrt_1yp8
What do you guys think the average XY fan is like?
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>>28547580
Honestly speaking, almost every reaction to SM has ranged from bewilderment to ragequit. I'd say around 15% of what I've seen have been positive reactions.
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>>28547586
>beating an electivire as its strongest opponent lmao
Oh fuck off, Greninja got a retarded Deus Ex power up and he still failed to beat Xzard.

Infernape won tons of gym battles on his own, he straight up dominated Volkner, Candice and Paul even without a stupid "Mega Evolution".
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>>28547532
OS-DP has the best design.
XY has the best Animation.
BW is...well, BW.
SM is shit design: worst by far.
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They can't argue that the change in style is jarring.

At least when Black and White did it, it was an upgrade.
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>>28547617
>didn't win the league
>didn't become the hero of Kalos

WHAT WAS THE FUCKING POINT OF THE FROG AND THE PHROPHECY?
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>>28547619
Sceptile was actually really bad until it evolved. Now, usually this wouldn't be a problem, but it spent almost all of AG as a Grovyle and only evolved after the league.
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>>28547638
Nah, they were close to Anistar, now they return to Lumiose.
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>>28547642
No anon, they're obviously all shitposters, every last one of them. You can't have a legitimate negative opinion about all this.
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>>28547619
Ash-greninja is his most powerful pokemon by a big margin. It not being able to deafet a above elite 4 tier pokemon doesn't make it any less good. Pull your head out of your ass. It's the only mon in elder god tier.

>>28547648
Assmad DPnostalgiashitter confirmed. Was not hard at all to make you mad as shit lmao.
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>no Amour in the Flare arc
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>>28547673
Ebin bait. We fell for it too! :^)
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>>28547673
>"We saw that a shitty and in general loathed Pokémon is inside the Megalith"
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>>28547675
>Sceptile was actually really bad until it evolved
>Beats Hariyama
>Beats Slaking
>Beats Altaria with a major type disadvantage
>Played a huge part in winning several league matches
Nah, he was still phenomenal even before he hit his final stage
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>>28546186
>half of his unova team is in the shitty tier
>this must be correct
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a483oih5LBk
I'm enjoying the fan reactions to the SM anime
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>yfw THEY KILLED MY BOY
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>All these mad XYfags
I can't wait until Frog Jesus gets hurled into Oak's prison to never be seen again.
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>>28547697
It wasn't really the time, but Serena called Ash using the device twice(did Clemont use his?) and wanted to help Steven and Sycamore once Ash took the lead.
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>>28547682
Maybe here shitposters make it seem worse, but its literally everywhere: the rest of /vp/, /a/, /v/, Serebii, bulba, YouTube, reddit, tvtropes, neogaf, Twitter, spic forums, kikebook pages...
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Perfect Zygarde using Core Enforcer webm where?
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I don't like this art change, but I will give SM a chance, just like I given BW until Ash vs Iris happened.
Who also giving SM chance?
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>>28547747
Even Sushi
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>Sanpei comes back
>"Satoshi, do you remember that scroll with the Hero Greninja we have in that shrine in our village-de gozaru?"
>"Sure, you said he and his trainer used to lead all the other Pokémon."
>"Actually, we find another part of the scroll and it played second fiddle to a Mega Charizard X and his trainer who saved the world. I wanted to tell you that."
>"O-oh."
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>>28547723
SM Anime is going to be shit. The SM dub is going to be shit, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGTQH5n-2OE
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>>28547468
>Hilda x Rosa
Mah nigga
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>>28547673
Olympia couldn't predict image related either.
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Why the fuck do people put Go.odra and noivern so low?

Noivern made a fool out of a god damn Zapdos, tied with a fucking Salamence, won against Duoblade and only lost to Weavile which is literally its ultimate counter and a fucking Mega Gyarados with Dragon Tail that's above even Alan's Mega Charizard X. It's hardly weak. Noivern is easily on Ash's better half of pokemon.

It losing to pokemon that its either at a extreme disadvantage at or that are extremely strong doesn't make it bad. How hard is it to figure this out for yourself? Most of Ash's pokemon has not fought opponents even close to the powerlevel Noivern has fought against.

Go.odra was a big fucking tank. It lost against a pokemon that it could only use two moves against, one which was countered directly and the other being hindered by cotton guard while that pokemon, slurpuff had a huge type advantage. It had no effective move against Bisharp and it literally used an OHKO move to bring it down. Other than that it was pure rape tank.

They have fought literally some of the thoughtest pokemon in the series and people but them in shit tier? Retards
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>>28547799
Fuck, I mixed Japanese human names and English Pokémon names for no reason. Oh well.
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>>28547695
Yeah man, I'll never forget how it found Hari-san and placed a shuriken so Alan can save it and how it can't even finish off a pokemon Pikachu who just destroyed 2 pseudos already weakened. Very impressive and really shows Ash at his most powerful.

More like the most disappointing pokemon by a big margin.
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How to save SunMoon:
>They explain that the school is intended for gifted trainers which would fit with the fact that the students are the Trial Captains and a league runner-up
>Mallow takes the role of the "bro" companion like Brock, Cilean and Clemont.
>since Team Skull appears from the start the show includes a less dramatic but still involving version of the game's conflict with Skull, Aether and the UBs (unlike BW pretending Plasma didn't exist until the very end)
>Lillie is "main girl" not in the sense that she is the love interest but rather that she is the girl directly related to the main story
>the anime includes the Lillie, Lusamine, Gladion family drama
>Gladion acts as main rival
>Satoshi travels with different set of characters. He goes to each island with its respective Trial Leader to take every Trial
>Graduating is just a way to adopt the game's "coming of age" theme, it refers to completing every Trial and defeating the Kahunas.
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>>28547816

Because they are faggots.

All "tier list" makers are.
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This is our new Satoshi
Team Kato will continue to animate a separated Pokemon series
Get hyped!
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>>28547553
Horiguchi's art dosen't look like Kakifly's, but nice try.

Also, what does an adaptation have to do with the artstyle being good or not ?
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>>28547816
If they have no decent onscreen wins, there's no way to gauge their prowess. You can excuse their losses all you want, but that's all we got to see.

Oh, but I guess you can add both jobbing like chumps against Mega Gyarados.
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So which Chespin is better?
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>>28547834
To be honest I don't even care about the school shit right now
I just want my old art style BACK
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>>28547852
Noivern jobbed against Mega Gyarados because it took a hit directly to protect Unclechu.
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>>28547833
So you got nothing but assmadness huh? It is his strongest pokemon. Saying anything else is pure delusion. If you're disappointed or not doesn't matter at all.
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>>28547852

>jobbing

>>>/asp/
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>>28547816
They only won minor fights, like when you think of the most notable wins in the XY anime, you think of Pikachu, Greninja and maybe Talonflame.

Goodra won big against Clemont yeah, but his contribution in the League was less than stellar.

Noivern simply didn't have enough time to prove his worth, and now he'll end up inside the "wasted potential" bin along with Gible, Boldore, Palpitoad and a couple of others.
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>>28547852
>jobbing against a pokemon literally a elite 4, champion and runner up had gang up on to beat
>jobbing

DPshitters fuck off
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>>28547834
Is this what you'd like to happen, or what you think will happen?
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>>28547914
This doesn't change anything about what I said. They don't have onscreen victories (Goodra literally has none because he wasn't there until the league semifinals).
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ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOTHING.
It was just a fucking excuse to not give him a proper mega or repeat the infernape shtick with torrent.
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>>28547913
Noivern literally outmatching a zapdos and drawing with a fucking salamence proves it's powerlevel is beyond any of the "wasted potential" bin.
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They should have returned to OS-DP art for genwun pandering and Sinnoh remake hints.
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>>28547910
Yeah, read the op dumbfuck.
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So guys, now that Ash lost the league in XY. What's the odds that he's going to be successful this time and win the league once and for all? :^)
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>>28547954
I would've liked it better if it was Torrent and it was able to put up a fight against mega evolutions with it. Would've been much more satisfying that a mysterious power up that's hyped up to hell and back and ends up disappointing massively.
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>>28547951
Why the fuck do you only counter league you retard? You got literally nothing
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>>28547929
Either the former or he's got really, REALLY big load of trust in writers.

I regret being like him during XY
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>>28547954
Was meant as a reply to. >>28547673
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>>28547996
Count*
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>>28547968
>Drawing with a Salamence
Irrelevant, only wins matter.

And who cares if it outmatched a Zapdos?
Only official matches should count.
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>>28548019
>it doesn't count because I say so

Topu keku

You got nothing huh? Jesus, just admit you're wrong DPshitter
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I only have one question
WHY?
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>>28547968
>outmatching a zapdos
>landed a hit
>outmatched
Also, legendary can be weak too.
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>>28547986
Absolutely nil given that he lost his main tool for focusing and escaping self-doubt
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>>28546131
Generation VI was so bad, Lysandre used his Last Resort.
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>>28547996
What else would you count with Goodra? It had all of two official battles beforehand. Oh wow, it blew up TR twice back when it was a Sliggoo and once more as Goodra. That's awesome.
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>>28548038
Nobody knows.
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>>28548019
>it doesn't matter because I say so

Kill yourseld retard

>>28548047
>zapdos is literally unable to hit it
>noivern is faster
>zapdos fell like a bitch
>not outmatching
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Gif of Lysandres' death?
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>>28548038
Budget problems.
Pls understand.
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>>28547986
Negative odds.

Yes, it has gotten to the point where it has become so improbable, we're breaking math.
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>>28546207
Why is Chespin in danger?
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>>28547799
Correction

>He played second fiddle to a Mega Charizard X and his trainer who took all the credit for saving the world despite not really doing anything other than helping to cause the problem in the first place. Just wanted to tell you that.
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>>28547986
>Alola
>League
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>>28548087
>yfw this is a twinkle in her eye, and Ash had gotten her pregnant off-screen
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>>28548073
Legendary Birds aren't even that strong anyway, and there's no proof that Noivern even defeated the Zapdos.

Beating two pseudo legendaries in a single match?

That shit's impressive.
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Serena! you're a better kisser than Yashio-sama!
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So out of curiosity, lets presume the trials aren't a thing or the Kahunas, what would be the driving force behind Ash in SM? will Aether inspire him to leave the school and travel? will he want to meet the other Guardians?
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>>28546207
That sort of fell like I dunno, a Saint Seiya moment? Everybody opens the way for the hero to do his thing.
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>>28548038
Time to bait in new kids.
Can't wait for moment when buttblasted fans after "expiry date" will amount to do something big.
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Will Bonnie become GUNDAM?
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>>28547062
We went a whole series without a beach episode.
>>
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>>28547315
>s
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>>28548122
Yeah, you're good at kissing knuckles.
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>>28548076
NO
THEY SHOULD HAVE GONE THE BLEACH ROUTE
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>>28548116
>aren't that strong anyway

I guess Charizard is weak then. You literally only have "It doesn't ciunt because I say so". You got nothing so time you just stop. You got BTFO
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>>28548162
Cancel it long before it's over?
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Did Steven and Ash even acknowledge each other? They were standing next to one another on the helicopter, I don't think they said one word to each other
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After watching Arc-V from the start I will say this: Alan, for all the shit that he gets, is a much better character than Yuya at the moment.
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explain this
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>>28548177
Yes
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>>28548114
When her eyes glisten most of the time it's a sign of love flowing from her being. See >>28548059
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>>28548140
I've been picturing this for days or weeks with her inside Perfect Zygarde and now with today's episode, Lysandre can pilot that rouge one.
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>"I will do everything I can to prevent the future I saw, Xerosic. That night, when we were experimenting with Mega Energy, and the time wormhole opened...I saw...things. Horrible. Unspeakable things. And I learned that, unless we force it to, the world will eventually end like it. I will...save the world from it, even if I have to destroy it and rebuild it completely. I will save the Pokemon World."
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>yfw people try their hardest to like SM anime just because Serena isnt there
In the end, she won. She blasted your asses so hard that the only way to get rid of her was to have an anime so shitty that no one will watch.
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>>28548131
This is why.
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This is our head writer. Say something to him.
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>>28548172
You still haven't proven why Noivern is so "great" either.

As I said before, Legendary Birds aren't even that big of a deal anymore, probably weaker than an average pseudo legendary.

And who cares if it drew against Salamence, you have to be grasping at straws to bring up useless stalemates instead of actual, concrete wins.
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>>28548208
And that was the last times her eyes glistened
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>>28548221
But I wish she'd stay, anon.
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>>28548227
Yes, something like that.
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>>28548235
Please die for ruining Satoshi's life and dreams.
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>>28548221
Its like burning a kingdom, to be the King of the ashes.
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WebM of Manon getting vine whipped where?
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>>28548087
But the question is did she say I'm waiting for you or we're waiting for you. It was "Satoshi, matteru "
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>>28548241
It wasn't. And maybe this webm won't be the last either.
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So we agree Lysandre did nothing wrong and was only trying to save us, right?
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>>28548241
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>>28548221
This.
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I only have one question left
MY ORANGE SHURIKEN? CARE TO EXPLAIN?
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Wait, they do they realize that they just killed a man? And everyone is okay with this
>Bonne cheering Exia on as he murders Lysandre
What the fuck
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>>28548235
Your show is shit, and you should feel bad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGTQH5n-2OE
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>>28548059
>>28548087
>>28548208
>>28548221
Why is it so depressing? It's so hard to stomach all of this. Many thought that Serena was going to stay but it all crashed hard upon us. It's time to give up and say goodbye to Serena. There was so much potential for her but I honestly don't think that she would be a good fit in Alola. It's just Ash alone with his Pikachu. The dream is crushed.
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>>28548255
"Whoa, you talking shit? But I gave the coolest character with the coolest Pokémon all the glory. Look, they're all black just like me!"
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>>28548221
>>28548296
I think SM looks decent, and I'm glad we have Lillie thee, but holy shit am I going to miss Serena if she's not going
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>>28548105
So you mean that we have to wait three (3) more years for him to compete in another major league?
>mfw being 27 at that time
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>>28548314
Snape, get over yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGTQH5n-2OE
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>>28548280
kek
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>>28548320
Yes, if they aren't scrapping gyms and leagues completely after SM success.
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>>28548260
No.
It's burning the castle to kill a jester.
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>>28548313
One thing is her staying, a very different thing is amour succeeding.
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>>28548306
What's wrong with it? that's how soldiers do during war. Shit like "he's still a human bean!" is cape comics tier stupidity.
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Delicious loli butt
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>>28548320
>being 30 now
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>>28548325
Pls don't bully Snape he is dead.
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>>28548221
>Serenafag calling others assblasted
top kek

What is this leap of logic even? They got rid of Serena so that people WILL watch the show, despite the shittier animation.

Just because a few autists in this thread worship a shit character doesn't mean everyone does. Just look at XY's ratings.
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>>28548306
Well Steven did and Malva was just like "yeah let's tell Officer Jenny, heh"

>>28548348
What if they have some sort of graduation tournament that serves as a league of sorts?
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>>28548221
>that no one will watch

So many delusions in so little words, but this part is probably the funniest
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>>28548313
And this just doesn't crush amourshippers, it literally destroyed all future ships because it proved that status quo will remain supreme and that the directors doesn't give a single fuck to people who just want this shit to have some fucking progress.

It's sad really
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>>28548313
The optimal true, S score ending was Wrapping up Ash story winning the league, winning the Serena and their son/daugther is the new protagonist. But we got the F bad ending.

TOLD YOU TO DO THE SIDE QUESTS
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>>28548387
>look at the ratings
Fuck off Scott.
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>>28548235
There's no way he is part of this "SM series", right?
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>>28548400
>it literally destroyed all future ships
It destroyed all future ships that make zero progress throughout the season, yeah.

Doesn't stop them from doing a ship right though.
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>>28548318
I don't like the other girls, only Lillie is decent out of them all.

I just sort of have a hard time seeing Serena in Alola even though I wanted her to come. They're not going to have a couple more episodes titles of Amour shipping bait. It's just not fair, it's too cruel for her. Serena will suffer the most of all and she'll never get a happy ending. None of the main girls will but they intended for Serena to take the fall.
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>>28548284
Not Amour. It has nothing to do with feelings of love
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>>28548400
>Implying this wasn't obvious before now

Only amourfags thought she actually had a chance. Everyone else knew you were idiots for hoping.
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>>28548370
>>28548320
>It's well past third myriad.
>Mankind found FTL, sprawled far over the universe, fought in interstellar war.
>"Sa-toshi and his Pik-achu tomorrow start their travel to marvelous region of Betelgeuse!"
>"Stay tuned to know whether he'll succeed in Grand Climb or not"
>"Premium figurines sold separately"
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>>28547723
>Charizard better compete in the fucking league. If there is no Charizard, we riot, we legitimately riot.
But the Charizard that's been shown is from the black Marawak guy, there is no reason for Ash to have Charizard again.
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>>28548414
The ratings support my point that Serena is unpopular, nigger. Calling me Scott is not a rebuttal.
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>>28548419
>inbefore Tomioka is glued to that Dragon Ball Super forever and ever
Why live?
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>>28548320
Christ, 2020 will mark 10 years after BW. I'll be 31
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>>28548450
Are you retarded.
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Why are they so perfect together?
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>>28547749
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>>28548450
>making a big deal out of ratings
Okay Scott.
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>>28548387
>>28548395
We knew that you loved BW so here's BW 2.0! enjoy your new adventures, fillers, useless stuff and Ash losing again!
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>>28548424
And Lillie isn't even human, go figure.
>>
So is Puni-chan dead?
>>
Leaguefags still haven't left, I see.
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>>28548490
Murdered.
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>>28548490
Thanks, have a Dawn in return, if that is your thing.
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Any webm of this scene?
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>>28548450
Do you even know how rating works? Rating has been falling for the sole reason that everybody moves away from tv as a medium and stream it or download it instead. Literally every single show have lower ratings than it had last year. Count everybody that streams it and you would get a whole other number.
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>>28548472
Another brilliant retort.

>>28548492
>disregard evidence because it contradicts your delusion
>ad hominem
tfw amourfags still don't know how to argue

>>28548494
I didn't say it will be good. I said it's better off without Serena regardless.
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>>28548527
No, they left because their duty etc.
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>>28548490
Such a complex design. Lets recap who didn't appear in the anime. AZ, Sina,Dexio, Some town, Diance, Hoopa, Volcanion, Xerneas, and Yveltal.
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>>28548578
>>disregard evidence because it contradicts your delusion

I really hope the irony of this is not lost on you.
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>>28548313
People kept telling you guys exactly what's going to happen, every day for the last three years.
You all refused to listen and called people shitposters for not being illogically optimistic
I'm sorry you had to find out the hard way, I really am.
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>>28548578
>who disagrees with my ratings autism is an amourfag
Cry harder Scott.
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It seems people finally can admit Amour made no progress. Amazing.
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>>28548450
That doesn't support your point, you need a proof like polls or people saying that they hate Serena and that's why they don't watch Pokemon
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>>28548400
>>28548413
Serena just had so much potential, there is a lot they could have taken her character further. She just feels incomplete to me. But the writers really have written themselves into a corner with Serena's canon crush on Ash. If Serena didn't have the crush and the backstory with Ash maybe taking the fall wouldn't be so great. This is just such a travesty, since a lot more people are attached to Serena and receptive to Amour. It wouldn't be easy moving away from Serena but I'm starting to tear up at the thought of it
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I can't believe they wrote out Looker and Emma.
>>28548598
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>>28548598
I'd bet 1$ some of them will appear in SM. Since, you know, it all comes together.
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>>28548598
Some megas too I think.
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>>28548556
>literally every single show have lower ratings than it had last year
That means they all went down roughly equally, which means that you can still measure popularity by comparing them. It's called extrapolation.
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>>28548382
You're right, because Alan Rickman was a boss, but Atsuhiro Tomioka is a hack.
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Will Lillie win da Ash?
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>>28548623
Maybe they'll save it for generations.
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>>28548602
At least we all knew Misty, May, Dawn and Iris were definitely going to leave. They kept Serena's end so ambiguous that people started to speculate that she'll stay.
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>>28548589
So Puni-chan will always be watching over Bonnie then.
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>>28548644
Yeah and compared to other shows Pokemon XY did just fine.
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>>28548644
You can't compare popularity because you can't measure the amount of people choosing to stream or download it instead you retard
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>>28548602
B-BUT MUH XY59 SHOWS SERENA IS SUPER SPECIAL TO ASH. IF YOU DON'T AGREE YOU ARE A SHITPOSTER!
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>>28548652
No. Ash is literally incapable of experiencing physical or emotional attraction to another living being. No ship involving him will ever happen. Get over it.
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>How to fix Ash's design
>Step 1: Make the Z marks smaller...MUCH smaller
>Step 2: Make his smiles smaller, smiling is alright but smiles as large as Ash's look fucking painful, also don't make him have that toothy grin all the damn time
>Step 3: Make his eyebrows larger, they seem a little too small right now
>Optional: Give him back his sideburns
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>>28548618
You don't have proof of the contrary. A tiny sample in one autistic thread is not proof. There is plenty of Serena hate or indifference on this board.

>>28548221 is the initial claim and based on no evidence at all.
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Thread starts with best girl:
>>28548696
>>28548696
>>28548696
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>>28548678
>months of threads spent discussing the 'progress' between Ash and Serena
I'm glad I never got into that. As for what I think, whether there was progress or not is pointless since it will all be trashed in the end.
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>>28548663
No it wasn't, you're just retarded. Her leaving had exactly the same amount of foreshadowing as any other girls.
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>>28548602
It happened with the league, it's happening again with Serena. Give up on these dumbasses.

I'll be over there giving S/M a chance because it actually looks fun for a change.
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I want leaguefags to leave.
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>>28548695
If Serena was going to stay, they would have showed her in the promos. There's literally no reason why she would be hidden. The creators don't care that much.
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>>28548676
Why would more people download or stream this show than others? By all logic the numbers would be roughly the same, or rather the same in proportion to TV ratings.

The shows are directly comparable.
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>>28548760
Age groups retard
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>>28548737
>Muh leaguefags

Maybe if the anime didn't make the badge quest a big deal since AG this wouldn't have happened.
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>>28548796
Age groups only reinforces the low ratings argument. This show is for small children who are not going to stream or download.
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>>28548307
HAHAHAHAHA what a brony faggot
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>>28546086
Every time he says mega evolve I just want to start exploding internally.
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>>28546322
>Sex ed episode
>Brock returns
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>>28546134
>Lana
That's a weird way to spell Wicke.
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>>28546186
Here's the real list

ULTIMATE TIER
Pikachu


POKEDEX / PROFFESSOR OAK'S BACKYARD TIER
Everyone else
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>>28548218
Did he really said this?
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>>28546496
>brother
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>>28547442

Sceptile beat a Darkrai you move my boy to God tier right this minute.
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>>28548490
>"GO, PUNI-CHAN, KILL THAT FAGGOT!!"
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>>28548490
>that RAINBOW ray
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