Tomorrow's Trailer

>>28495942
>Starter Split Evos (Leaked evos are Moon exclusive)

This is literally what is making me hyped.
First good choice GF did. An actual reason to get both games.

>>28495942
I hope that's true because I hated the leaked evos other than robinroot. I don't mind popmaid I guess but it's not something I would use personally because I'm not a girl or waifufag.

>>28495983

Your fucking dumb to believe that split evo starters is a thing

The dogs aren't showing up tomorrow.
They are Corocoro exclusives. Contract won't let them be shown for a couple weeks.

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>>28495983
Hopefully this. I like the leaked starters but I wouldn't mind split evos because hey more options, I'm not complaining

>Daywolf
>Nightwolf
They are the same Pokemon just different designs

>>28496013
>Your

Also. Split evo starters will be a thing.

>>28495942
>Starter Split Evos (Leaked evos are Moon exclusive)
Please no, what have we done to deserve all of this, Sun already got AccelRock and Mosquito Man, why does Moon have to get the shitty evolutions of Starters as well?
Still not 100% believing the leaks, though.

>>28496017

This, for fucks sake.

>>28495942
Source: the depths of OP's anal cavity.

Proof or fuck off.

I doubt we'll get all of that but at this point just some clear explanations of what the day/night distinction entails will make my day.

There's way too many stupid things said about that shit lately. I can't believe how hard of a concept "12 hours difference" is to grasp for some people.

>>28496013
If it were any other gen I'd agree but I don't think it would be out of line given that they've kind of shit on most of the other routine tropes of pokemon.

>>28495983
Stop and think how retarded your post was. Fuck off, cur.

>>28495942
Fake

>>28496057
version exclusives are a meme in the age of internet trading anyways. It'll only be annoying in that you'll have to evolve your guy on the other version.

Plus in the age of most of us being adults it's not like we have to wait for santa to drop $40 on the second version. I probably get paid more than that just for taking shits at work over the course of a week.

>>28495983
you say that until the final evos for sun also suck

i hope they dont but its gamefreak. i hope they prove me wrong though

Hope this isn't true because I already preordered Sun but I really want Robinhoot

>Evidence for split evos of the starters

???

Nothing.

>>28496135
Honestly, I don't really see any reason to buy both versions, especially since you can just trade the stuff you don't have from the internet. Plus I have a friend who is getting the opposite version, so I have no need to own both Sun and Moon.

I just kind of hope that whatever pokemon get version exclusive evolutions, they check the evolution based on what version the pokemon originated from, making it easy to just trade an egg to your friend, instead of having to trade the pokemon away when you want to evolve it... Though knowing Gamefreak, it might just be the latter one they do.

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>>28496219

Nothing, other than the fact that Corocoro explicitly stated that the starters and Rockruff have a secret.

>>28496017
no they aren't. corocoro explicitly had "corocoro exclusive" next to the sandcastles and stufful last month, and that is absolutely nowhere to be seen on the wolf pages.

>>28496158
Hopefully. The supposed moon evos are all trash besides owliver queen

>>28495942
>Starter Split Evos (Leaked evos are Moon exclusive)

How so, Robinhoot and Luchalitten maybe but Poppmaid looks like a day evolution to me?

Still want it to be true.

>>28496251
Yes, both have a secret, but they did not say it was the same secret.

They're not going to reveal Rockruff's gimmick and then reveal the same one for the starters weeks later. Anymore than them having unique Z-moves is a secret.

>>28496135

version exclusives are useless because you can just trade on the internet

...

so what youre saying is version exclusives make perfect sense, because people trade pokemon for a reason

>>28496033
>Daywolf
Aaa-AAA-aaa
Fighter of the Nightwolf
Aaa-AAA-aaa
Champion of the Sun

>>28496017
Exactly. Retards don't understand.

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>>28496344
I really fucking hope it's split evo, I really don't like those starters

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>>28495942
>Starter Split Evos (Leaked evos are Moon exclusive)
You keep joking but people actually believe this.

>>28496017
>Sauce is my ass

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>>28496124

>>28496344
>but they did not say it was the same secret
Why would they mention their secrets in the same breath if they weren't the same secret. I could see if it said "Rockruff hides a secret, and the starters hide a secret of their own as well," but it literally said "Rockruff and the starters all hide a secret." This wording implies they share the same secret.

>>28495942
>Starter Split Evos (Leaked evos are Moon exclusive)

I still don't get why this would ever happen.

>>28496344
theyre the same secret.

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>>28496621
It actually said

>[Rockruff has] A secret in its little body...!?
>Actually, the 3 starter Pokemon also have a surprising secret...!?

So it's much closer to your 1st example.

>>28496649

What if it just the English version of this Trailer?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oO_P4GX_RA

>>28496649
Why would Alola forms happen?
Why would trials replacing gyms happen?
Why would Ultra Beasts happen?

They're doing so much shit different this time around that split starter evos isn't even that farfetch'd anymore.

>>28496689
[Citation Needed]

>>28496718
Because Japan is also getting news, but already has released that trailer?

>>28496716

>The "surprising secret", surprising absolutely no one at all, is that they have unique Z-Moves.

>>28496749

Pokémon is from Japan.

I expect them to get news faster than us.

>>28496649
because contrarians and denialfags will desperately cling onto any inch of hope they can find

they are going to need it

>>28496716
You got me there.

BUT, I will say that it would seem strange that they just suddenly bring up the starters in that vain when they weren't even being talked about before. It still seems to me that the juxtaposition still implies they share the same secret.

>>28495942
>@NinlendoAmerica

>>28496771
No. It's not going to be an English version of that trailer.

Japan has announced news for tomorrow, too. The linked trailer has already been released so it can't just be that trailer. Whenever it's been worldwide news, it's been new stuff everywhere.

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but if this happens I suppose that the entrys should are in the Rotom Dex. I mean:

>>28496812
Z moves

>>28496827

I wouldn't rule out any possibility of it.

So don't get too hype.

I'm 10% hype right now.

>>28496879
They're not going to reveal nothing for Japan. It may just be footage of the corocoro stuff, but it's not just going to be a week old trailer.

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>Catch Rockruff on Moon
>Transfer him to someone's copy of Sun to get priority rock doge
>Still turns into Wolfman because he's originally from Moon and the game knows that.

>>28496904
>believing it'd be Corocoro stuff, when Corocoro releases the day after.

They aren't going to do that.

anyone know what time the videos being posted? (GMT preferably)

>>28496855
>Rockruff's evolution has a different form depending on which version you're playing!
>Oh, and the starters get their own Z moves
Again, the juxtaposition of these things just doesn't add up. I won't make any claims, but I think people saying Z moves are being extremely pessimistic (not that I can really blame them).

>>28496917
>the game knows
LEAPEST DORE

The only thing that makes me wonder about split ecos is that it has been an unusually long time since the second ecos have been announced.
Usually by now GF would have released info on second ecos by now.

>>28496158
Just don't make the cat a luchadore and I'll be content

>>28496836

rockruffs evo only has one dex number too, theyre forms

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>>28495942
>leaked evos are moon exclusive
This is the only thing that makes me want to believe this is fake. There's no way they'd do this. There'd have to be a way that would make you be able to get the other evolutions because I'm not fucking buying both versions

>>28496771
>>28496827
>>28496879
Holy shit how stupid are you? Japan is getting NEW information tomorrow, and they already have that trailer. How many times do you need it explained to you?

>>28497099
Trade for them. With online trading it will be very easy.

>>28496929
Take a look at August CoroCoro, and the English news that came out in August. Then apologise for being a massive retard.

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>>28495942
Yep Sun & Moon are polar realities where things happen differently.
Night is Day and vise-versa.
Time itself is opposite.

That's why the UB-02' are different, the Totemons and even the starters.
Lugaruga are the same creature but is it's representation of itself in different realities.

It all comes together as the rifts created by the Ultra Beast is connecting all the realities.

It all comes together
The end
The beginning
>IT ALL BECOMES ONE

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>>28496836
>>28497038
>they're forms
So what you're saying is
It's just forms that's the split evolution?
Honestly I wouldn't mind it being cosmetic differences but if it is exclusive and also going to be something like "new typing/BST spread" I will not like that.
>>28497143
I don't think you understand. If I'm going to get a split evolution that's exclusive to one game, if I trade for it, it wont be the nature I'd want, it'd have none of the egg moves I want, and most importantly it can't be nicknamed by me. The problem is that there's extreme exclusivity with this concept. Legendaries I'm okay with since I don't use them unless stated otherwise (VGC) but I'm not going to buy two games just to get a different final evolution.

where's the tweet, OP?

>>28496344
>unique z-moves would be a secret

All you fags constantly saying this are so obviously retarded. Snorlax and Raichu have unique z-moves, other pokemon have unique z-moves.

That would be no secret.

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>>28495942
Forgetting the Ultra Beasts.

>>28496344
On this principle all Gen 7 Pokemon share a secret, we don't know stats, movepools, evolution levels and evolutions of some.

>>28497195
The alolan forms are exactly that though. New typing/BST spread

>>28495942
Literally the only reason anyone believes in split starter evos is the fake Ballio leak.

>>28496855
Because that's such a surprise? By your logic, why would they not reveal that for the starters at the same time as snorlax?

It certainly won't be surprising then.

>>28497283
I think Ballio is one of the most retarded fakes, up there with roothoot, and I'm hoping for this.

Also, they aren't split evos, it'd be the exact same pokemon, just a different form.

>>28497195
No one cares about what you like,it's just what it is

Lugaruga Midday and Night are the same pokemon.
They take up the same spot.
They can't transfer between form.
They are different type.
Different stats.
Different movesets.

Things change, fuck if they wantd to keep thigs the way you want of remember them we wouldn't have Megas, Alola forms or goddamn Ultra Beast.

>>28497194
The totems are the same across both games, those are ACTUALLY time specific unlike the dogs.

>>28495942
Wow, it might be big tomorrow

I bet they will go into more differences between the two versions. So more new pokemon hopefully.

Cutiefly evo is going to be the Trevenant of the season

>>28497253
They're not gonna show 2 version exclusive ultra beasts in a trailer and not anything else.

>>28497424
The Gumshoos and Raticate totems are version exclusive.

>>28497474
No, they are not you retard. Those ones are actually time specific.

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I've check both NoA twitter and Pokemon twitter, neither of them are saying anything about there being more info tomorrow.

So why is everyone in the thread being retarded and falling for fake announcement?

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>>28497424
>>28497494

Oh gawd a retawd, hath merthy.

>>28497494

Nope, they're version exclusive as well. Feel free to look it up.

Honestly, I'm not even sure why they're bothering with the time-difference gimmick in the first place if everything based on time differences is actually just tied to which game you're playing.

You people are moronic if you believe Dayruff and Nightruff are version exclusive. The wording very obviously was aluding to evolution during in-game daytime and in-game nighttime. Since the games are on a 12 hour difference they very obviously couldn't say"evolve it during the day to get this."

Nightruff is obtainable on Sun and vice versa. Screenshot this.

>>28497531
They said on the 6th that there will be more info on 14th. Probably just corocoro stuff

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>>28497494
surely you b8n

>>28497568

Why would they reveal everything in Corocoro the day before Corocoro releases?

>>28497281
but you can catch them and trade them and breed them. This isn't some evolve them here and you get something different.
>>28497361
I am totally okay with Megas and alola forms.
I am not okay with buying two versions just to get different forms because I'm not made of money nor do I want to do that shit.
>>28497531
Japanese Twitter for Pokémon said something about tomorrow having news.

>>28496460
AROUND 22 WHAT?????

>>28497552

I'll add you to the Denialfag collage.

>>28497602
>Japanese Twitter for Pokémon said something about tomorrow having news.

Why would nintendo of america's twitter advertise japanese pokemon stuff?

>>28497615
Not sure if serious but 22'00 hours is 10pm on Nip time which is when that shit is normally shown.

>>28497615
22:00, so 10pm local

>>28497531

https://twitter.com/Pokemon_cojp/status/774208246164828160

>>28497615
Around 22 nothing time as that tweet doesnt exist.

>>28497215
Learn to read. I meant day/night forms wouldn't be any more secret than Z-moves at this point.

>>28495942
>Leaked evos are Moon exclusive
They're the sun exclusives though.

>>28497631
Who's in denial? I read the same thing as you guys. I'm not hoping against evidence that something is true. I just know how to apply reading comprehension. They wouldn't go through the trouble of adding the time differences and wording the rockruff evo reveal the way they did if it was gonna be version exclusive shit and not involve in-game day and night cycle. Hell nightruff's entire design supports my argument.

>>28496460
>>28497615
10 PM JST
Meaning in 15 hours and 45 minutes. Go to sleep anon.

>>28497715
see:
>>28495607
>>28496339

>>28497672
It does exist. It's on the Japanese twitter account. They posted it on Sep. 9

>>28495942
>Starter Split Evos (Leaked evos are Moon exclusive)
Nice bait.

>>28497743
http://www.serebii.net/sunmoon/pokemon.shtml

>If it evolves during Daytime, it'll have the standard Midday Form, but if it evolves at Nightime, it'll have its Night Form.

Gonna trust serebii over an ambiguous intepretation of google translate every time. Please screenshot this so when it's revealed you can look back at in your folder and realize how foolish you wete.

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>>28497743
>>28497715

>>28497804
>>28497797
Post another one of those hilarious reaction images again :^)

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>>28497797

>Gonna trust serebii

>>28497597
Because they dont give a shit about corocoro this gen

>>28497846
>gonna trust google translate

At least next time get an anon that can pretend to read moonrunes before you are so sure about your evidence.

>>28497099
Yeah, just like there's no way they'd ditch the gym formula!


oh wait.

>>28497975
or
>There's no way they'd start a new generation without closing up Kalos's loose ends first!

>>28497681
It's not because of evolving at day or night; it'd be the first time ever to have starters evolve into more than one final evolution. That's the real secret.

>>28498021
>They always make a superior 3rd version for the generation!

Pokemon Grey was great y'all.

>>28495983
If this is true (it isn't), it would make moon the absolute shittiest game in the recent franchise history
>fursona wolf
>my tacky grandmas Christmas ornament box legendary
>those God awful starter3's
>forced fucky internal clock shit for plot moments

It's not though. Sun and moon will be the most hype world design/story yet and also have the absolute ugliest shitmon ridden dex yet, too.

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>>28497194
>Sun & Moon are polar realities
That sounds retarded and amazing at the same time.

online pokemon trading has existed for years and you people still care about "version exclusives."

>>28497797
>New images of CoroCoro have come out showcasing more of Lugarugan. In it, it shows the Midday Form being obtained in Pokémon Sun and the Midnight Form being obtained in Pokémon Moon. It also says that Midday Form has a move called AccelRock, which is a priority move, while Midnight Form has got the move Counter. We'll bring more as it comes
>New images of CoroCoro have come out showcasing more of Lugarugan. In it, it shows the Midday Form being obtained in Pokémon Sun and the Midnight Form being obtained in Pokémon Moon.
ebin

>>28498164
Dude, you can evolve your rockruff at either day or night in either version; they're not full-blown version exclusives like we've seen in the past. Just that if you want the night form in your Sun game, you have to wait to evolve it.

Same would be with the starters, assuming secondary final evo forms are a thing.

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Still waiting for pay off for this.

>>28497737

Thanks for the information.

>>28496307
Mermaids are commonly depicted comin out of the water at night, and they have a strong connection to the moon. They particularly enjoy the full moon, which brings high tides with it.

>>28498440
Makes sense; the oceans are influenced by the moon so greatly.

>>28496361
Yeah but version exclusive evolutions is kinda bullshit since I should be able to choose what I get from my base Pokémon. Like not being able to easily train your Rockruff into Midday Lugarugan kind of fucks with people who wanted Moon but like the Midday form. I'm fine with version exclusive Pokemon since there you have nothing stopping you getting the final stage once you get its base form. But version exclusive evolution is much more restrictive.

>>28498596
Read >>>>28498318

>>28498318
>It's that meme again

>>28496013
You have a point but this new generation is fucking insane. If anything split evos would probably be some of the most "normal" changes they introduce.

>>28498515
Yes. Ultimately the leaked starters all have a strong night theme going on.

>>28495942
>NinlendoAmerica

>>28496158
Jokes on you because I like most of the designs so far.

Also I'm not a pussy so if my starter ends up looking the "worst" I suck it up.

>>28498318
>>28498640
>magazine calls them version exclusive evolutions
>"no it's not"

/vp/ I understand that you don't know how to read moon but could at least not pretend to know what you're talking about

>>28495942
>starter split

We don't even have the fucking middle evolutions

>>28498318
Are you illiterate?

>>28496836
It's a different form. Think of Gastrodon. It looks different but it's still the same pokemon.

The difference is that Sun and Moon are parallel universes like X and Y, so there are some changes here and there.

>>28497099

Honestly the split evo boogaloo is the only reason I can think makes sense for Hau to get the weaker starter

There's still no fucking explanation for that

We don't see shit with Lillie so we don't even know if she battles you with the better starter

>>28498283

Most /vp/ posters aren't very bright.

>>28498842
I find it hard to believe that the girl who doesn't even like Pokemon battling is going to be getting the starter with the type advantage.

>>28499020

When was it ever said that she doesn't like battling?

Regardless, she is still Atleast attending the island trials since it's not just battles

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>>28499351
Not that anon, but it's on her bio.
http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/people-alola/

Are they really gonna withhold the starter evos even longer? It doesn't even seem like a good business move for them to obsessively keep em a secret. Fucking reveal them please, it can only help the hype train worldwide.

>>28498962
a lot of people are terrified of getting hacked mons

>>28499496
They've done the same thing for generations now,.

They were just leaked before.

>>28497194
>the connection universes are from both of the games
>you travel to the other and it has the oposite time of the day
>this is why there're two versions and two ub-02

This kinda makes sense

>>28498307
Oh I'm sorry did you not read the actual link I posted with info on a page he wrote after that entry on the news? Be sure to go back and look at my link, friend. I know it can be a little confusing.

>>28498766
As in can I read moonrunes? No, anon. And neither can you. Throwing moonrunes into google translate isn't a substitute for a translation. Enjoy the slice of humble pie tomorrow.

>>28495983
It's GTS TIME!

>>28498318
hehe xd

>>28495942
>leaked starters are moon exclusive

thank god i'm getting sun

>>28498318
Except we don't fucking know if that's the case or not. The wording in CoroCoro is conflicting.

>>28496073
and the worst is that even some sites didn't understand this concept, and the rockruff evo just made it "harder" to understand

>>28495942
Evolutions will never be Game Exclusive you fucking mongoloid. Those Pokemon still need to evolve in later games/gens and it'd be overly complicated to set up a correlative set for every set of games and would deny the possibility of ever having single, Emerald/Platinum style games again.

Day/Night exclusive evolutions maybe.

Okay but WHEN does the trailer release?

>>28501096
9 EST

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>>28496364
I love this reference

Look at Serebii, guys. Everyone who's been saying it disproves time-based evolutions can't into reading comprehension.
>In it, it shows the Midday Form being obtained in Pokémon Sun and the Midnight Form being obtained in Pokémon Moon.
>The name of the Pokémon Rockruff evolves into is Lugarugan and has a different appearance based on if it evolves in Day or in Night.
See? It doesn't say Rockruff always evolves into Midday in Sun and Midnight in Moon, it says it's SHOWN evolving into Midday in Sun and Midnight in Moon. Which it is.
Plus, say what you might about Joe, he DOES correct his mistakes. If the scans had said Lugarugan's form depends on the version instead of the time, he would have either amended it to the second post or edited his first one.
Finally, the idea of Rockruff always evolving into Midday in Sun and Midnight in Moon just doesn't make sense. Regardless of what's been version exclusive before, >>28501088 is right- evolutions have always been internally consistent. Game Freak wouldn't do something that pointless and confusing when a more intuitive and future-proof option is available.

>>28501260
Not reading this thread, just browsing by.

Holy fuck is this STILL an argument?
I thought we sorted this shit out 12 hours ago. If you don't think its version exclusive, kill yourself along with the gen6.5 fags.

>>28498164
>getting that already
>fuck off with your shit taste
>we have no idea if they're sun or moon
>it applies to both games

Sun has the better UB though

>>28501308
>not reading
Clearly.

After no gyms, type null, ultra beasts, 2? evil teams, alolan formes. all the shit we got this gen...

I find split evos for starters completely believable.

>>28496219

Evidence against it?

>>28501403
That's not how burden of proof works.

>>28497639
Because in theory, only japs know about Rockruff's evolution bc corocoro is not available in the US and internet doesn't exist (nintendo logic). Therefore, the trailer being shown tomorrow is the only way to get the information to us.
Corocoro leaks are not official news for us outside of japan. And that's why they have to advertise the upcoming trailer.

>>28495942
>NinlendoAmerica

Pack it up lads, nothing to see here

version exclusive evos are retarded, if they make the starters split-evo, then at least make them a day/night version, not sun/moon versions.

>>28495942
Why did you put speculative things in the OP as if they were fact? Now /vp/ is going to run around considering all this stuff as confirmed.

>>28501403
Burden of proif is with the ones making the claim against the status quo. Status quo, as it pertains to the discussion of Pokemon, is that there is no split evolution or separate forms.

>>28495942
I don't think game freak would limit your starter on version

>>28497195
>What is Deoxys?
>What is Meowstick?
>What is Rotom?

We already have Pokemon with various forms with different stats and all, but they still take just one dex entry, nothing new.

>>28496716

Japanese tends to be very superfluous when translated though. It's why a lot of Western shows stereotype anime as having a lot of goofy phrasing just to express a simple thought. On top of that, it's a magazine that intentionally builds hype, so obviously, they would phrase something in such a way to garner interest in it.

It could very well be the same secret or an entirely new secret, but I really don't think we have enough evidence apart from this oddly phrased statement to know for certain.

>>28497195
That's your problem and some other autistic fags though.Accept it or leave the boat while you can.

>>28502438

And PokeJungle's going to put this in his next article.

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>>28500465
If you say so

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>>28503777
Ash is going to stomp us all like bugs!

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>>28498164
>fursona wolf
some people actually like moonwolf doge

>have the absolute ugliest shitmon ridden dex yet, too.
most people really like the designs

stay salty friend.

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everyone saying version exclusives are useless because online trading exists are fucking retarded. what the fuck do you think people would trade if you could get everything in one game? just starters and fossils? breedjects? everything else would be missed events and tradebacks / evolutions. online trading is still trading with other human beings

>>28501308
rockruff evolution depende on THE TIME IT EVOLVES

there will be midday and midnight in both games you moron

>>28504817
You're retarded.

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>>28496460
Already 14th and its mid day but no trailer wtf.

Stupid japs should kill themselves

>>28498779
Eh, think more along the lines of Meowstic. Gastrodon's forms are cosmetic only, but Mewostic has different abilities and moves based on which form it is.

>>28495942
Masuda's funeral

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>>28497881
>Serebii
>Capable of reading moonrunes
He has people do that for him, numbnuts.

>>28496017
they aren't exclusive

what was said was that Coro Coro has their evolution as a scoop, but otherwise no exclusivity

>>28496917
I thought Horo died of childbirth

>>28505147

Don't worry. We'll see it in a few

>>28500385
But I can read moonrunes.
サン限定進化
サン = Sun
限定 = gentei = limit/restriction
進化 = shinka = evolution

Your next response will be "by Sun it means in the morning!!"

>>28505454
even Serebii already said it's version exclusive, so I dunno why denialfags keep on trucking

>>28505454
Actually,
太陽 = sun in moonspeak
There's no reason to use サン in katakana, unless they want to refer to the Sun version (as ポケモン サン) is the name of the game.

Here's a theory. There will indeed be a day & night cycle in each game, but if you try to evolve rockruff during midday in a copy of moon, for example, nothing will happen and vice versa.

>>28505454

Is there even a point in arguing anymore?

No one listens. The trailer will confirm and they'll still argue.

And then the game will come out and they'll cry about how they were lied to.

>>28495983
>An actual reason to get both games.
Good little goyim, ain't ya?

a whole lot of non-arguments flyin around in this tread.

>>28498307
Where do you see the word "only" in there? All I see is that the information says that "midday form is shown in sun" and "midnight form is shown in moon", not that they're exclusive. It's fairly vague, probably to confuse retards who have already preordered into buying the 2nd version because they preordered moon when they wanted the "sun form" or vice versa.

>>28501260
Any evolution method can be amended for future games- see: Probopass/Magnezone and Feebas

PLEASE DONT LET THE LEAKS BE THE EXCLUSIVE EVO FOR MOON!!! I Fucking hate the Popplio gay siren

>>28499433

>devoured many books

>it was meant literally

>>28507255
then buy sun namefag

>>28507255
I want a big manly water starter i can jack my tiny furret too

What do you mean by Day / Night? All games have day and night.