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/vpwt/: It was me, Zoroark! Edition

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>discuss writerly struggles with fellow writefriends

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Previous Thread: >>28164129

Check out the catalog for a directory of fics from fellow writefags,
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PtN4D_9CSw8JJ9uO6v0oQqdtKEkS8aFAvfxqI96XfSE/edit?usp=sharing

>Can I post NSFW fics?
Absolutely! There are no rules against NSFW text links.

>How should I post my fics?
Please, for the convenience of everyone involved, link to a host like Fanfiction.net, Pastebin or Google Docs rather than dumping your fics in text posts. This not only keeps the thread tidy (and keeps you from getting an infraction for spam), but it also provides a more permanent place to store your work.

>Can I add a fic I wrote to the catalog?
Sure! Check the catalog for the submission link. In there, you can find a link to a Google Form - fill out all the necessary information and it will be submitted for review automatically. Technology is incredible!

We're also looking to collect ideas for fanfics as a resource for stumped writers. Feel free to throw an idea out there; someone may choose to use it themselves!

Ideabin: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X072SSWulcC6RJRrPA6v9XtyohRybvMBl6Fh49wHsRw

Topic of the Thread: What kind of balance do you think characters should have in terms of strengths and weaknesses, good character traits and bad, and many other examples?
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eye wan 2 fug zoroark
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>>28287441
Regarding TOTT; do you think it's too autistic to have some mons blind, def, lose a limb, etc. due to some tragedy or other circumstance?

I don't mean anything gay, like an excuse to have an eyepatch or anything, but something as simple as a psychic type losing the ability to hear and going insane from only hearing thoughts.
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Fic recap:
Ee4ee's one shot about a jealous starter pokemon and a new mon. SFW
http://pastebin.com/MZ25741X
Another involving Braixen massage. Suggestive yet SFW
http://pastebin.com/sCuW2qZV

Pawn's Illumise mating season story. NSFW
http://pastebin.com/cLXZMQgz

Mimiga's Festival of strings. SFW
http://pastebin.com/5RSgcRXy

Anon's Electrifying Tales of Raichu fic. Looking for feedback. SFW
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jYiQuXfXEJOA_meKU8C-TZ12kxXDVuIrd0NFWpYcry8/edit?usp=sharing

traipsingexodus's new fic of Only Viridian. SFW
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12134785/1/Only-Viridian

Updated fics:
Ee4ee's Big Shoes to fill chapters 4-6
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12125737/4/Big-Shoes-to-Fill

Solar's Gift of the Protector chapter 13.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10121590/13/Gift-of-the-Protector-Radiant-Heart
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>>28287596
It only seems reasonable that after years of battling, a Pokémon might sustain a serious or irreparable injury. Just look at boxing. So no, if you write it properly and don't do some "this is Blayde my Bisharp OC he has an eyepatch because a serial killer stabbed him in the eye somehow" garbage, then I wouldn't call it autistic at all.
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>>28288083
There's a blind lucario in my story who wears an eyepatch and has lost all his limbs from a battle with weavile. Is that autistic?
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There's only one right answer to the TotT, and that is...

Whatever makes sense for the character, really.
Meaningful faults should make sense for the character. Slapping ones on randomly is bad form. Just give them what they should logically have.

>>28287596
Not on principle, no. But it is easy to fuck up.

There's a very fine balance that needs to be struck. It needs to be a part of their character, but it can't define their character.

Focus too little on it, and it IS tacked on.
Focus too much when the story doesn't call for it, and it takes away from the story. In addition that if you don't understand the disability well enough, you come off as a bit...McFarlanesque, for lack of a better term.

If you want an idea of how to do a disabled character well, look up Johnny Joestar. Everyone's favorite asshole.
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>>28287441
ToTT: Man this question feels like I'm not going to answer it properly.

The short of it is: the balance is entirely up to the role they fill in the story. Goods and bads to a character come up as I write (and sometimes in planning or in retrospective looks at the work as a whole) and overall I don't try to force them any one way other than making sure they don't become Mary-Sues.

Let's use Johannes as an example:

>Acts as the primary point of reference for understanding the world; is a researcher so his knowledge of pokemon behavior is considerable, while his knowledge of battle is small

He tints the lens we view the world in. What is a good characteristic that forms his core?
>Is devoted to Viola and trying his best to better bridge the human/pokemon communication gap

What is his primary weakness?
>Has become terribly disconnected from human society and the original intent of his own work and falls prey to lust

What does this develop into?
>Refocuses his efforts with Viola to make the relationship healthier, refocuses his efforts to align with his job, tries his best to make amends to Eric for his mistakes, promises to do good work in Sinnoh

But what doesn't get ironed out?
>He doesn't resolve the conflict with Talia properly (or realize that fact), gets a sweet gig for the convenience of his boss alone, is a bit of a dick (though he's working on it)

I think this is an okay balance, but he needs work.

>>28288148
Tragic more like, the fuck happened?
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>>28288148
...Okay, I'm not saying that it's impossible to make it work...but it is very very unlikely. A blind quadruple amputee does not seem a good idea unless you're going for a "Johnny got his gun" sort of thing. Perhaps dial it back?

As an aside, this is a good time to point out that it's best to not heap on too much tragedy, as it's very hard to see someone as a character if they appear as more of a tool to try and elicit sympathy. And Tragedy Cascade characters tend to be the latter. If you're going to have disabilities, try to not have more than one major one, unless you know damn well what you're doing.
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Well, I'm really interested in writing a fanfic about Pokémon. Already thought of some characters and stuff...Do you guys have any advice with someone who is new to it? I'm a journalist, so writing wouldn't be a problem.
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>>28289034
In my mind, I'm still re-working on my next pokefic. It's still stuck roughly where it was a couple months ago (I literally haven't gotten to write in comfy productive mode in over a month, beset by distractions), but something came to mind very recently that might be a fix for what's stalled it.

But a large amount of my key presses recently have been going to Ee4ee via FFN PM, wherein I provide feedback on BStF that will surely cause a gradual transformation into another pedantic unreadable outcast like myself, except Ee4ee fulfills /r/lemons while I'm simply no fun at all.
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>>28287441
Sooo what are you guys writing about right now?
Or are you just checking out the request/ideas that have been posted?
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>>28289051
there's some useful advice here
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/27624609/#27742699
If you're writing smut (or not) there's some advice here as well
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/27624609/#27634502

Either way this was some useful advice posted in the past
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>>28289168
I was hoping to find some mystery dungeon fanfics, I've only read one so far and I think it was called silver resistance
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>>28289051
Yes. A few.

First, Book mark an online thesaurus and dictionary. You will thank me later.

Second, you can't write it like you would an essay. If you are a journalist, you know how to capture interest, yeah? You're going to need to capture interest without sounding biased or trying to convince us. Because the second you try to convince us, you snap us out of the story.

Three. Your first draft should be shitty. Write a chapter, page, or paragraph if you must. But get that shit down on the paper, and don't worry about if it doesn't sound good at the time. In the days of the computer, it's super easy to rewrite. Just throw DOWN the words in your mind, so you can fix them UP later.
This person says it better than me:
https://wrd.as.uky.edu/sites/default/files/1-Shitty%20First%20Drafts.pdf

And the best advice I can give you is to KEEP WRITING. Write ANYTHING you can. You don't have to show anyone a story you wrote if you don't want them to. It can be your secret. But if you ever have writers block, just open up that dirty little secret and write, write, write.

>>28289168
Working on fixing up Minty's first and second part into something I'm happy with.
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>>28289237
Thanks! It may seem a dumb question, but what's smut?
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>>28289337
Pornography.
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>>28289284
>Catalog
>Boku no Ctrl-f Mimiga
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>>28289337
Sometimes known as porn without plot/"plot? what plot?" also known as pwp.
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>>28289168
Still brainstorming the next chapter for Au Coup Par Coup. Wondering how long I want Only Viridian to run. Probably just three or four chapters really. But it might balloon in size.

And right now I have a doc open with some Jo/Vio fluff in it. Hot cocoa and snow, oh boy. Gonna use it to act as both a fluff and world-building delivery device. Mostly the former I think, the latter will probably just crop up as "oh look, this is how Sinnoh is faring under the recent legislation." Very well, but I'm still working out the fallout.
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I've read that pawn guys illumise story and I loved it. I wanted to ask does he take any request? If so I would like to see something like this 28283037
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>>28289344
>>28289372
Oh, I see. Well, it's not my intention. Even if my characters may have relationships, I don't think it's my kind of story. Btw, I'm thinking on starting wednesday
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>>28289566
Damn it I tough I properly link that.

How about some roselia/roserade ass play/playful teasing? The trainer could make some remarks on how his rosepokes ass looks bigger compared to the others of her species which makes her mad/embarrass.
Or you could do a short about a roserade and gardevoir competing to get their masters affection. Which could end with him loving both, just being oblivious or in sex if you can write that stuff.
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>>28289284
Power Trip
A thoughtful take on the PMD premise. Tries to reconcile pokemon as intelligent creatures and wild animals.Lighter tone.Complete at 270k words.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10483318/1/Pok%C3%A9mon-Mystery-Dungeon-Power-Trip

Ears
Written by local writefag Mimiga, set in post PSMD. Features suffering and fluff. Has a sequel in progress.
http://archiveofourown.org/works/7309726/chapters/16602256

If I were Just a Little Braver
Cute/fluffy, abandoned just short of 300k words but still worth reading. Written by local writefag SadIdiot.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10131562/1/If-I-Were-Just-a-Little-Braver

Rebirth
Darker tone. In progress at around 100k words.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11225832/1/Pok%C3%A9mon-Mystery-Dungeon-Rebirth
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>>28289595
You have yet to admit what is your kind of story.
>Trainer's journey.
>Slice of life.
>Human becomes a pokemon. (PMD)
>IRL person enters the game world.
>Pokemon's perspective.
>Canon characters?
>Alternate universe?
>Something else?

Knowing which category appeals to you will make devising a plan easier.
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>>28289153
>except Ee4ee fulfills /r/lemons while I'm simply no fun at all.
Only one! Maybe two, depending on definition.
I'm thinking about not taking anymore even suggestive ones because they don't really engage me.

>>28289168
I'm dumping some ideas for a couple of requests from last thread (one for the content and a second for some flavor) into a notepad file while I futz around with where I plan to take BStF Ch.7-8

Tonight is a 'break from writing' night because I don't want to go to bed later than 5AM for the fifth night in a row. I've written almost thirty thousand words in fourteen days, below my target but I think I can take a single night off.
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>>28289668
You can't just copypaste the pmdg fics, Local writefags aren't even local in the writethread itself. I'm super foreign.
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>>28287596
Perfectly fine if done well.

>going insane from only hearing thoughts
Funny, I'd kind of expect psychics to hold up better than others who lost hearing just by nature of being able to "hear" thoughts to mitigate loss of information.

There's a story or plot point somewhere in a trainer dealing with the loss of privacy involved in playing auditory crutch for their deaf psychic.

The topic of pokemon injuries raises an interesting question in how evolution effects permanent injuries. Some pokemon gain extra limbs from evolving, so would it be reasonable for one to gain lost limbs from it?
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>>28289846
Yeah, my logic is that psychics would have to put effort into using mind reading abilities, otherwise they would have to both hear thoughts and sounds at the same time, running into a big mess.

So if a certian Gardevior waifu mon lost sense of hearing, situational awareness would be a much more active thing, and she would slowly succumb to paranoia, constantly scanning and monitoring thoughts just to stay in touch with those around her.
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>>28288148
Making a blind character is fine. So is making a character with a lost limb. But if you ask me, making a blind character who also lost all four limbs is definitely pushing it. Maybe you should just make him blind, or just make him lose one limb, but don't go all out or else it'll seem like overkill.
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>>28289466
I'm sure plenty of people will be fine having to choose a different vacation destination at which to fuck their Bronzong. They could just travel to degenerate Unova instead of the other Japanese islands.
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>>28290354
Well, I meant more internal fallout - not just people that are unhappy with the restrictions and happy with the legalization, but also dissidents that didn't want degeneracy legalized. Besides, they'd be travelling to Hoenn or Kalos, not Unova. Unova isn't too keen on it themselves.
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>>28289284

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11645253/10/Pok%C3%A9mon-Mystery-Dungeon-Lament-of-the-Fallen

here's a pretty good lesser known PMD fanfic that's A. currently being updated and B. manages to be centered around psychic pokemon that aren't complete bullshit
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>>28287441

>What kind of balance do you think characters should have in terms of strengths and weaknesses, good character traits and bad, and many other examples?

Basically, your characters should be just strong enough to plausibly get past their challenges, but just weak enough for each challenge to be a genuine fight to conquer.

In terms of good character traits and bad, it should be a mix where a character can plausibly land on either end of the karmic scale depending on how far they go down, or have already gone down the rabbit hole of their benign and less benign character traits.

Speaking of striking a balance, I finally closed out my current story arc in my fic. The chapter's a bit shorter than the past few ones have been, though I'm hoping the pacing still held up this time around.

FFN:
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11084689/40/Fledglings

AO3:
>http://archiveofourown.org/works/3465593/chapters/18232561
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>>28289691
Well, let me try to explain...I will create a region, like it was a country, not related to the games and the series. It will keep the gyms, but kinda different. The requirement will be higher and the conditions will be difficult. Plus, I'm trying to give a story between the characters during the journey, with real life struggles and some kind of fantasy too. The characters will have background history and development, in various areas.

Thing is, I'm planning to create a protagonist, whose father no one knows and his mother was once a skilled battler, who died three years prior to the start. He will have a younger brother and a younger sister to raise with some ridiculous job, and a girlfriend, that is already a trainer. He would dream to be like his mother, but the real life struggles would be problems. Then he will get a call from a Pokémon Professor, who was keeping his late mother's Pokémon, that was going to close his lab and then he would have pay more to keep them in care. The professor then says the only thing who could help him to keep the lab was if some trainer who started a journey with him as a tutor won the national Pokémon league. Then you'll start your journey and stuff, the story will be long and I am focusing on personalities and character development during the chapters
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>>28291131
Sounds like a tall order. But might be cool if you can pull it off.
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>>28291131
Just make sure the MC is actually old enough to legally take care of those siblings. Unless your OC region is legit Bangladesh, CPS wouldn't just not notice a "totally unique and responsible though" teenager taking care of two little kids.
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>>28291602
I'm thinking on maybe 22-26, something in between this
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>>28291131
Something to keep in mind: If you're going with an adult newbie (and you still intend the story to be about the adventures of the journey), the world should probably be more hostile, so that the average trainer starting age is justifiably higher.
The source material claims that 11-year-olds can handle the journey. If that were true in your story, an adult protagonist would likely face little challenge from the journey itself and would also get his shit kicked in by kids several years younger than him.
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>>28291721
Actually, I'm trying to make it pretty dificult. It's another universe, more like real world, where the average age for starting as a trainer would be 18 and stuff.
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>>28291740
That's good. Too many people make their protagonist starting trainers older without adjusting the world.
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>>28291131
I suppose "Trainer's Journey" is the best fit.
Have you decided what will be the moral of your story?
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>>28291803
Actually, no. I will develop this base story I told there within the chapters. There will be a villain team, but more "real life" than the games. Something with the mafia, I think, but I'm still thinking about this part
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>>28291960
Okay. Good luck.
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What about a pokemon universe where you battle for keeps? The same "no running from a trainer battle" rules apply, but you have to turn over any fainted pokemon to the winner if you lose.

Is it too edgy?
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>>28292073
Sounds hard to sustain. If losers get eliminated from the game like that, there won't be enough players for it to work on the scale implied by the source material.

Maybe it'd work in some sort of underground battling circuit.
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>>28292073
>Team Rocket won.
Perhaps I am unimaginative, but I don't see any factor which would encourage any participation.
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https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12125706/1/Dance-dance-revolution

Here's a cute little story I'm writing about Ash and Meloetta. However, I don't want to do a whole Kanto remake, because that takes way too long. The focus in this fic is the romance anyway. Any good ideas in which direction I should take it? Overall thoughts are also appreciated :)
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>>28292073
Maybe a bit, but the main issue is that if that was the case, nobody would battle. And it would take too much to make the system work from a logical standpoint.
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Is giving a character a shiny pokemon automatically donutsteel?
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>>28292565
Not necessarily, shininess is all probability so it's possible for them to happen anywhere. I guess it all comes down to your skill as a writer.
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I see it as: the pokemon is shiny to indicate something is very peculiar about it and that altered coloration only drives it home _or_ the Trainer that finds the shiny does so only after a tremendous amount of work of actively attempting to find one.

The former requires sufficient justification, the latter is justified by bringing the reader along for an exercise in throwing dice that are loaded to the nth power. But this brings up the question: why are they looking for this shiny variant in the first place?
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>>28292669
See, in my mind, there's nothing really special about shinies except their color. Like, someone could accidentally stumble upon a shiny in the wild and, having never seen another pokemon of that species, think that that color is normal for that species. Sure they're obscenely rare, but barely different from normal pokemon when it comes down to it.
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>>28292805
I agree it's just random chance, but I'm basing my view off of anticipating how people would react to someone just having a shiny without the usual "work" involved in getting one. Maybe I'm way off.
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>>28289284
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8561139/1/Pok%C3%A9mon-Mystery-Dungeon-Broken-Ideals

Can be a bit edgy but it is pretty competently written and i like the worldbuilding.
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>>28294250
Nice cotton guard
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