Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

POKÉMON MOVIE SPECIAL SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_Movie_19_Premiere_Commemoration_Special[H264_720P][212D0552].mkv.torrent

XY&Z37 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_037_The_Finals!_Satoshi_VS_Alan!![H264_720P][429D17E9].mkv.torrent

XY&Z15 POKÉTV SEGMENT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_015_A_Brigarron_from_the_Wilderness!_The_Tree-planting_Robon!!_PokeTV_segment[H264_720P][46EE6A1F].mkv.torrent

XY&Z38 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=841536

XY&Z39 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=843882

XY&Z40 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=845935

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z41: ATTACK ON MIARE GYM! THE CITROID FOREVER!! (SEPTEMBER 8TH)
>Citron VS Xerosicy! Who will win this battle where their pride as scientists are at stake!? And after this fierce battle, Citron is forced to make a difficult choice!

>Summary:
>Serena sets off to rescue Hari-san together with Manon and Platane. They end up in deep trouble when they are attacked by the Flare Gang's Admins, but then a reassuring ally appears! But just who is it? Meanwhile, Citron has snuck into the Prism Tower in order to recover the Miare Gym, and is now finally confronting Xerosicy!

>Voice cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Mayuki Makiguchi: Serena
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mariya Ise: Eureka
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Kensho Ono: Alan
>Mikako Komatsu: Manon
>Hiroshi Tsuchida: Platane
>Hideaki Tezuka: Fleur-de-lis
>Tsuguo Mogami: Xerosicy
>Fumiko Orikasa: Carne
>Kenichi Suzumura: Daigo
>Akeno Watanabe: Pachira
>Kensuke Sato: Lizardon
>Kenta Miyake: Onvern
>Kiyotaka Furushima: Fiarrow
>Noriko Shitaya: Yancham
>Mika Kanai: Nymphia
>Chinatsu Akasaki: Horubee
>Hitomi Nabatame: Harimaron
>Miyako Ito: Pumpjin
>Karin Nanami: Correa
>Sayuri Hara: Momiji
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration

UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 49 (Sep 11th)

XY&Z -MOVIE VER.- (SATOSHI)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6d63pkrvpvcqry3/XY%26Z_MOVIE_VER_%28Both_Sizes%29.zip

THE PIKACHU SONG (PIKACHU)
http://www.megafileupload.com/7hw9/The_Pikachu_Song.m4a

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA SOUNDTRACK
http://www.filedrop
per.com/movie19soundtrack

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA
CHAPTER 1: http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8
CHAPTER 2: http://imgur.com/a/cGC71
CHAPTER 3: http://imgur.com/a/l6bs1

>>28281219
>Give me the fucking titles!
You don't have to tell me twice but during the stone age

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Best girl incomming

Ready for more non-excitement in this rollercoaster of disappointment that XYZ is?

>>28281219
Wait, come to think of it, when does Pokemon Fan release? I legit forgot.

>>28281322
>posting from a phone

>>28281338
>Xerosic throws out Malamar
>Clemont uses Luxray, Bunnelby, Chespin, Heliolisk, Magneton and Magnemite all at once
Yeah, really excited.

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>>28281506
>Baiting sharks with cats

>>28281358
>posting from a phone
Not him but i'm eating a Pizza with a friend and i'm posting on my phone

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Soon

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Soon

>>28281593
>>28281612
Weird.

>>28281593
>>28281612
Not going to happen and you know it

>>28281593
>>28281612
They will be together, either they're both going to be in Alola or not going to be in Alola

I had a dream that Cilan appeared, but in a superhero alterego after witnessing both Blaziken Man and Ash-Greninja, Cilan became a superhero connoisseur and dressed up as a Mightyena.

In addition, Iris fought Essentia. One of them had a Mega Venusaur.

>>28281612
Im praying they have Serena win Ash over and go to Alola with him, but its not very likely.

New Pokefan when

>>28281735
September 20th

Amour was pointless

>>28281726
It's not likely that she's going to go alone with Ash to Alola. Or she stays in Kalos. They're not going to make it canon or make people think it's canon any time soon

>>28281689
>Mightyena.
That doesn't suit Cilan at all. Interesting dream though.

>>28281752
>Tierno not lying

>>28281755
It's not like they'll be alone when they get to Alola.

As for canon, they'll make it.

>>28281649
I'm pretty sure you only meant the first one.
Dawn wouldn't get a hair cut after the Chimchar cut.

Since we will probably never get action waifu, anyone looking forward to action loli until we get the chicken in November?

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>>28281910

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Right, we're nearing the end of XY so post your top 5 battles.

1 - Greninja VS M-Sceptile
2 - Greninja VS M-Gardevoir
3 - Pikachu VS Lucario
4 - VS Olympia
5 - Pikachu VS Aegislash

>>28281910
>expecting Shauna to do action

>>28281871
>>28281902
Thanks for the laugh anons

>>28281871
She's just too passive to make a move, even when people in Kalos expressed support for her. They just didn't help her out much in pursuing Ash. She really needs a push in taking an active role in Ash's life. As she is right now, she expects a miracle to happen and it isn't going to happen any time soon as long as she's still set in her passive ways. I get the impression that she feels content where she is right now.

>>28281938
I was actually talking about Bonnie, but I'd kill for action Shauna.

>>28281958
She's already been having an active role in Ash's life without having to push much. She's pretty much what fixes him and you have him going around saying what she said once just like she uses what he said once.

>autists are still devoting this much of their spare time spamming the same pasta bait again and again in a thread dedicated to something they don't like
It's just sad at this point.

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>>28281972
>calls Bonnie a waifu

>>28281955
t. Tierno being bitter again

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Why is she so cute?

>>28281933
I agree with you, but I would place Clemont vs Ash in the last place.

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>>28282190
Because anon, she's in love

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>>28282335

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>>28282329
>not liking wood jammed into Aegislash's tight hole

>>28282190
Because she is a thirsty ho

I'm frustrated by XY, it had so much promise. It generated in us so much excitement to end in a disenchanting coda.

>>28282117
She still spills her spaghetti whenever she gets a chance to bond with Ash. She still blushes from time to time. Just listen to the song Candy Girl and that basically describes her current situation. She wants to establish a strong bond with Ash but she's still spilling her spaghetti.

>>28282149
No, Serena is the waifu, Bonnie is the loli. I specifically mentioned action loli in my previous post.

>>28282396
I liked that battle a lot, but I think Lumiose Gym battle was worthy of mentioning.

Can anyone post me the data broadcast image for the upcoming Pokemon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7swR8MATA0
Do you have any expectations with Alola?

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>mfw im both an ashfag and an alainfag and i fucking love the current episodes

feels good man you should try it

>>28282485
It's Malamar for this week, Lucario for the 1-hour special and Greninja for the episode after that.

>>28282511
Thanks.

>>28282509
Have a reply, young man.

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>tfw you know titles are coming
>tfw you know they may either calm down the raging seas or cause the storm that will be remembered for ages
>tfw you don't know when, but they are coming

Anticipation eats me ALIVE
WAAKE MEE UUUP

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>>28282590

>>28282590
I know everything will end in shit. They can't surprise me.

>>28282590
>cause the storm that will be remembered for ages
That already happened. Should the titles confirm Serena is leaving, the resulting shit-flinging will be ten times less severe than the league loss. There honestly shouldn't be any at all because it's a foregone conclusion.

>>28282655
Here's your (You) young man.

>>28282428
>She still spills her spaghetti whenever she gets a chance to bond with Ash.
>still manages to bond anyway
>episodes show them bonding anyway and they get shown as having a strong bond
No, really, what are you even trying to say?

>>28282706
Really? I'm not fishing for (You)s, I'm being rational. Can you tell me with a straight face you're not expecting Serena to be dropped after what happened in the league?

>>28282451
You called Shauna action loli.

>>28282743
Why hasn't she confessed yet? She's running out of time.

>>28282782
Again, what are you trying to say? Serena staying/going's in the middle and it's like you don't know about time and place for confessions.

>>28282752
No one actually knows what's even going to happen.

Rationally speaking, SM's already pretty much fucked everything.

>>28282782
No appropiate moment so far and she a beta

>>28282886
>she's a beta
>Ash does the moves instead

>>28282752
I wouldn't say there's a 100% chance Serena gets dropped, but it's definitely more likely that she gets dropped. Comparing her to the other girls is a bit flawed since she actually has a canon crush on Ash.

>>28282857
>Rationally speaking, SM's already pretty much fucked everything.
How?

>>28282752
I don't think the league is directly related to Serena. I don't think it makes any difference whether he wins or loses.

>>28282960
He probably means the games in terms of usual conventions, which should affect the anime.

>>28282975
They're not directly related in that one thing doesn't lead to the other story-wise, but in terms of the series being deathly afraid to move away from the status quo one inch, it's certainly a sign.

>>28282975
The league bullshit was a demonstration that nothing will change in the anime.

>>28283013
>>28283020
>status quo dictates that Ash beats his rivals after initial losses
>Alan still wins in the end
In a way they did fuck with the status quo. Next region doesn't even have gyms, let alone a league.

>>28283013
>>28283020
>muh patterns

How certain do you think anything is going to happen with a 100% chance? All we've got right now is just speculation but not a shred of direct evidence. There is no official confirmation of a green light on the next gen series yet.

So what, he just lost a league, at least he got second place. If they stuck to muh patterns, he would've still been stuck at 4th or 8th place.

>>28283083
>>28283097
>the way he lost changed slightly
Then the way Serena will get written off will change slightly, don't you think? :^)

>>28283097
If Serena's character/crush was a result of Iris not being received well, why would they risk dropping Serena for another girl who likely won't be as popular? Nothing will compare to the hype of Amourshipping for the next girl.

>>28283119
Yeah, they write her off of XY by having her go into SM.

>>28283097
He became a Frontier Brain at the end of AG. Then he escalated into the second position in the Sinnoh League. In BW he was demoted because it tried to be a complete reboot of the series that failed. XY was the real continuation of Ash being increasingly competent and excellent trainer. But they decided to keep the status quo by making him lose against the Stu.

>>28283097
>>28283097
>If they stuck to muh patterns, he would've still been stuck at 4th or 8th place.

This reaching. I don't even know why they bother to mention the Champion league when we'll never see Ash stomped by the first E4 member at the very least.

>>28283166
>He became a Frontier Brain at the end of AG
He didn't. He beat the battle frontier and was offered a position, not anyone's position, but he declined it.

>>28283097
>If they stuck to muh patterns, he would've still been stuck at 4th or 8th place.

That's stupid. It doesn't matter where exactly he places in the hierarchy of losers, the point is that he never wins. That's the pattern.

Serena is the same deal. Even if there is more romance involved than before, it's still not gonna go anywhere.

>>28283119
>>28283133

Again, that's still speculation. So far Serena getting axed is what most people believe or think. It's possible, but anything can happen at this point. I mean they brought back Wobbuffet for XY. They might not introduce anyone new as part of the main cast, who knows what is going to happen. AG series had a debut in November, but everyone knew months in advance that Misty was going to leave because we've had official confirmation.

>>28283187
>Even if there is more romance involved than before, it's still not gonna go anywhere
It's romance involved in the first place. When they actually throw it onto characters it leads somewhere especially when they push it.

>>28283187
>Ash gets into the second place of the Kalos League.
>Still a loser.
Are you Argentinean? They are the ones who come out with this kill or be killed shit.

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>>28283187
When they do some romance and they actually have it affect the characters it tends to go somewhere. Or did you say this because of Misty?

>>28283187
>it's still not gonna go anywhere
>it's been going somewhere

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>>28283208
>When they actually throw it onto characters it leads somewhere
Yeah, just like Ash's rivalries, right? He always beats his rivals, even if it means breaking the status quo.

Oh wait

>>28283133
>risk dropping Serena
>likely won't be as popular

Where are you getting this idea that Serena is particularly popular? She's still less popular than Dawn in the east, and Misty in the west, despite the romance element. "Better than Iris" is hardly an achievement, and not enough reason to keep her around at the expense of marketing all these new semen demons.

>>28283202
They probably revealed the AG cast early because that was the first ever female character replacement in the anime's history, and they wanted to prepare at least Japanese fans for Misty's departure.

Back in 2002 the writers had no idea how people would react to a new female companion in the show, it was a huge risk at the time. Prior to May's debut nobody knew how she'd be received.

>>28283307
Misty's not any more popular in the west than the other girls, you're just talking about the people who only watched the early seasons because of the fad. Being the best known isn't the same as being the most popular especially with the active fanbase.

>>28283307
And where did you get the idea that she isn't?

>>28283234
This issue that no one ever brings up how adept Ash is outside of Max in other leagues. This is like being silver in the olympics and no one offering sponsors or anything.

>>28283234
Second place means jackshit to the anime itself, Ash didn't even get a silver trophy. They could've had the battle be the semifinals instead and nothing would've changed.

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>>28283208
>>28283269
>always leads somewhere
Yeah, like Brock and Professor Ivy, right?

It MIGHT lead somewhere, but only when it's on disposable characters, like May and Drew. Likewise the romance actually affects Serena, but it has no effect on Ash. Serena helped him a few times as a -friend-, but romance clearly had nothing to do with it from his perspective.

Ash is not gonna get tied down to one bitch, especially one as average as Serena.

>>28283234
They call me Cebollita

>>28283307
>She's still less popular than Dawn in the east
They're actually the same when it comes to popularity. If you're talking about couples then Ash/Serena beats out Ash/Dawn. Misty being popular in the west is pretty much from nostalgiafagging because Japan only goes with HGSS Misty.

As for your marketing, Some new character and an old character already look roughly the same.

I wanna slit Alan's throat.

>>28283300
>'it's been going somewhere' as a reply to 'not gonna go anywhere'
will be adding that to my list of favorite replies from shipfags, alongside 'no', 'wrong', 'not true', 'except it has', 'except it hasn't', 'except no', 'except yes', 'watch the show', and 'using arguments makes you a retard'

>>28283311
They revealed the DP and BW cast pretty early. XY was confirmed on late June, it's main cast was revealed on September 15th.

>>28283307
I don't think Alan is a real rival to Ash. He's meant to be someone like Aria or Zoey, someone a main character can never beat. His only real rival was Shouta.

>>28283097
>There is no official confirmation of a green light on the next gen series yet.
Yes there is, we got an ad for merchandise that mentioned "the new anime series".

>>28283423
Which makes you wonder why they're keeping the S/M cast so tightly lipped. Either they don't want to reveal the backlash of Serena leaving too early, or she really is staying and the writers don't want to reveal that too early either.

>>28283392
>like Brock
>Brock
And you goofed.

Also, for the record, "as a friend" is what they did with Dawn, not Serena. What they did with Serena helping Ash is pretty much what they do with couples in manga and anime.

>>28283311
AG itself was accidentally leaked, I believe due to someone finding a not-well-enough hidden promo picture that had been uploaded to the TV Tokyo site in advance.

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Never forget
https://twitter.com/hinopika/status/768762413961256960

>>28283392
So you just don't like Serena or are you a haremfag?

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Long hair Serena best Serena.

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>>28283485
Back in 2002 on Bulbagarden, Archaic and his cronies were trying to claim May was actually Misty, just with her hair dyed brown and with new clothes. They couldn't comprehend Misty leaving and they said May's face looks like Misty's (even though every anime girl has the same face) so they thought she dyed her hair.

Haha. I almost wish I could go back in time to 2002-2003 and see all the butt-hurt Misty fans all over again. Oh who am I kidding? Its the year 2016 and they haven't changed in over 15 years.

>>28283537
Fuck off, Scott.

>>28283417
Holy shit, Paco. You've gone off the deep end.

>>28283508
What's this?

>>28283392
>Likewise the romance actually affects Serena, but it has no effect on Ash.
The subplot's affected both and the development of the two characters because of one another is part of the romance. I mean, what, you think it's all kissing or some shit?

>>28283516
My opinions on Serena have nothing to do with her leaving. I'm just stating the facts.

>>28283477
When will you autists understand that romance has to be MUTUAL to form a relationship? Serena sees Ash as a romantic interest but Ash only sees her as a friend, and her help doesn't go beyond friendship.

>>28281593
I would love it when she returns but after what they did to Serena it's better if Dawn stays away so they can't ruin her.

>>28281612
Never.

>>28283537
>Birch in the background acting out the "Why can't I hold all these [x]" meme

>>28283582
Dawn and Serena are both necessary as part of their character development. The writers are gearing for a harem end.

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>>28283577

Fun fact: Its already been 6 years since DP ended. Its been 6 years since Ash lost to Tobias and Dawn left.

My god how time flies. I sometimes feel like the end of DP was only like 2-3 years ago.

>>28283577
>When will you autists understand that romance has to be MUTUAL to form a relationship?

It's been years: the correct answer to your question is obviously 'never'.

>>28283577
m8, are you so autistic that you don't see that the relationship has affected both characters and that it affects their personalities. Your friendship help has been with Dawn and they've clearly had Ash show difference between his relation with Dawn (the literal definition of a friend) and Serena.

>>28283631
>personalities
>serena
my sides

>>28283577
>Ash is not gonna get tied down to one bitch, especially one as average as Serena.
>basically the character that they have Ash be affected the most by and the one they did a subplot with
I'm pretty sure rather than facts it's one of the two things I listed.

>>28283631
The relationship hasn't affected Ash romantically. Only socially retarded autists disagree.

>>28283618
Cutting hair is regression, it doesn't progress anything. It's only symbolism for "hardship" and other emo stuff to cut your hair while ruining the character's looks.

>>28283694
Serena only cut her hair just so she looks different enough compared to Dawn. Apparently cutting one's hair is such a big deal in Japanese culture.

>>28283671
What is with your constant use of the word "have?" You could have just phrased that as "character that affected Ash the most" but instead you use the most convoluted fucking phrasing. It's been bothering me for years.

Check your fucking ESL.

>>28283681
They clearly show Ash seeing Serena as more important which is how things develop to romantically.

I mean I don't know if you haven't gone outside but that's how they happen.

>>28283729
>They clearly show Ash seeing Serena as more important which is how things develop to romantically.

If you call that bone throw romantic development you need to watch more media. That's more a forged bond at best.

>>28283790
His point is its noticeable for the Pokemon anime.

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>>28283726
>use "have" once
>get called ESL because I've been "using it for years"
Okay.

>>28283831
>MGTOW.
Oh, hahahah, oh boy. No.

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>>28283790
Clearly it isn't like your favorite author, Stephenie Meyer's, work.

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>>28283881
NO

>>28283841
>use "have" once
It fucks your whole sentence structure. Your style in unmistakable, I've seen it many times and it reeks of ESL.

The content of your posts is painful enough to read, you don't need to fuck up the syntax too.

>>28283881
>Tierno imagines doing hurtful things to Shauna (in response to Serena not wanting him)

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>>28283959

>>28283959
>complains about greentext's sentence structure
>talks about sentence structure while fucking up
No, really. Okay.

Just gave up on the show and watch something else. That way the Nips won't be able to hurt you.

>>28284004
Describe the structural errors, ESL. This should be funny.

>>28284010
Did they hurt you?

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>>28283392
Can I peg you?

>>28284042
Are you an anime?

>>28283729
>They clearly show Ash seeing Serena as more important

Is this where Ash starts picking his nose? I need a good laugh.

>>28284032
>Your style in unmistakable, I've seen it many times and it reeks of ESL.
I never specified it was structural errors, I just said "fucked up", ESL-kun.

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>>28283904
>Clearly it isn't like your favorite author, Stephenie Meyer's, work.

Please don't even. Staring into each others eyes isn't fucking romance either, heck romance is not something I hunt for. The point is romance is a two way street. Two friends where one is fawning over the other is admiration at best. If the second party never does shit the romance never begins in the first place.

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YOUR ALOLA OT3 CRASHES INTO A NEW THREAD!! KALOS WAS A MISTAKE!!! NOT EVEN THE NEW TITLES WILL SAVE YOU!!??

>>28284079
You pick your nose so now you try accusing Ash of picking his?

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>>28284079
Dude are you an idiot? Don't you know picking your nose has major romantic significance in Japanese culture? It shows both awkwardness and a feeling of confidence around the other person, and symbolizes an implicit request to accept you as a lover despite possible flaws and insecurities.

It's a different culture, as a baka gaijin you wouldn't understand. Japanese twitter confirms it, and no I won't spoonfeed you the links.

>>28283577
And Serena seeing Ash in romantic light but not visa versa is the problem with Amour.

>>28284109
Then what's "fucked up" about it?

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>>28284159
>posting the shitty one

>>28284159
I wouldn't hold out for chicken-chan, anon.

>>28284144
>missing the sarcasm with the usage of Stephenie Meyer
But really, the structure's set up in the usual basic way as they do in anime and manga. Just to go about it the second party has done something about it which is how the first party continues.

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>>28284079
Leave nosepicking out of this.

I was going to watch XY anime

Is it even worth it now? Are they ever redeeming themselves for fucking up the pokemon league?

>>28284255
nah

>>28284255
Yes

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>>28284179
>symbolizes an implicit request to accept you as a lover
just as keikaku

>>28284079
>>28284179
t. burgers

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>>28284230
NEVER GIVE UP TIL THE END!

>>28284201
Serena sees Ash in a romantic light while Ash sees Serena as someone important to him on a different level compared to other people.

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>>28284179
>spoonfeed

>>28284335
This

>>28284335
>Serena sees Ash in a romantic light

Absolutely correct.

>Ash sees Serena as someone important to him on a different level compared to other people.

Clemont and Bonnie are just as important to him. He views them all equally. Please take those shipper goggles off.

>>28284335
>'because i said so'

>>28284250
Sorry, I had to duck and dive under the Twilight craze younger. Everyone the used the library reccomended that book, girls and guys.

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Defend d the fact this wasn't a plot point :^)

>>28284386
>>28284387
>show ways to demonstrate she's more important to him
>"nuh-uh, Serena's the same as everyone else because I say so!"

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>>28284264
>>28284279

For real guys, what the chances of the battle between satoshi and alan being rigged and that he actually won? What the chances that being found out and a rematch is demand and satoshi BTFO him? Please, XY look so fucking good, I can't believe they just threw everything away.

Even the Team Flare arc seems good, but fuck I don't want to pick it up still because what happened at the league.

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Post YFW
>Alain joins Ash in Alola
>He brings Manon along
>Alain trains a lot during this journey
>He keeps his team from the league and trains them
>Refuses to battle Ash because his team has 2 regions worth of training as oppressed to Ash's one.
>Manon becomes one of Ash's rivals instead
>Alain becomes more outgoing
>Not as much as Ash, but a little more open
>Cheers Ash on and gives advice and help with training

>>28284458
*as opposed to Ash's one

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>>28284407
Because it looks like shit

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>>28284458
>Alain joins Ash in Alola

>>28284386
>Clemont and Bonnie are just as important to him.
Just the fact alone that Ash wanted Serena to travel with him when he never invited anyone before already says differently. C'mon son.

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>>28284292
Um excuse me I'm clearly an expert on Japanese cutlery given my experience interpreting foreign twitters to confirm my bias, hence I can infer romantic subtext of distinctly platonic actions that would be lost on baka gaijins like that anon

How dare you question my credibility? I don't owe you any proof. Clearly you need to watch more anime that show much more blatant romantic development, which proves me right given the Japanese tendency to mean the exact opposite of what they show.

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What did he mean by this?

>>28284515
t. shitposting burger

>>28284524
He wanted to battle

>>28284524
>This Serena is better than mine

>>28284458
I want him to become the next Gary instead
Ash never beat Gary in Kanto and only did it in the Johto leauge
Alain can take the Island Challenge to find a new purpose in life and get stronger after Team Flare, while Ash takes it to become the very best
Serena and Manon can both cheer them on and have their own contest equivalent too

Though he does become more open and occasionally gives Ash training advice

>>28284524
>"It's okay to be bullied if Serena does it, she knows the safe word."

>>28284455
>what the chances of the battle between satoshi and alan being rigged and that he actually won? What the chances that being found out and a rematch is demand and satoshi BTFO him?

Zero.

All that's left is Ash and Alain fucking around for a few episodes until Zygundam wakes the fuck up and ends it. Then it's goodbye France hello Decolora 2.0.

>>28284602
>Ash never beat Gary
Gary wasn't actually all that much in Kanto.

All bark and little bite.

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>>28284603
Ash is the bully

>>28284437
>show ways to demonstrate she's more important to him

What ways are those? He gave her a ribbon? Okay, that was a friendly gesture. What else has shown he views her as more important? He risked his life and jumped across a ravine to rescue Bonnie. Does that mean he wants to fuck her? The whole Clemont gym battle and their dialogue together. They are extremely close, does that mean he wants to fuck him?

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>>28284630
They're both bullies.
Ash's just more whipped.

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>>28284616
>All that's left is Ash and Alain fucking around for a few episodes
Yes please

>>28284645
No, Ash doing the same things with Serena that he does with other people are romantic only with Serena, because I have already drawn the conclusion that he likes her.

>>28284624
If we dont count the Mega specials, Alain wasnt in XYZ that much more either

>>28284668
thanks for being honest, /padt/. I'm sure you feel better now.

>>28281689
> Cilan
> Iris

Did you mean Nightmare?

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>>28284657

>>28284682
No, I mean Gary wasn't all that great in Kanto. They had him on a car and driving ahead and what not but when push came to shove he didn't do much. Alan actually did shoving.

>>28284707
Gary had some of the strongest mons in Kanto. He got knocked out by a much stronger opponent than Ritchie.

>>28284645
>>28284668
>>28284684
>get repeatedly told about the whole deal and why
>"lel nope"
Every time.

>>28283234
We have more thirst for winning something than Ash himself.

>>28284713
I'm not just referring to the league.

>>28284688
Why was this worth being so devastated over?

>>28284688
THAT DRESS IS BEING HELD UP BY HER BOOBS ALONE.

>>28284739
>get your "whole deal" repeatedly debunked
>"lel nope"

Every time.

>>28284782
>thinks pretending to not get it is debunked
>"lel debunked"

Every time.

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>>28284765
Satoshi

>>28284800
>this doesn't make sense and here's why = i don't get it

t. shipfag on the ropes

>>28284630
She was fine on a balloon.

>>28284645
>He gave her a ribbon? Okay, that was a friendly gesture.
>gift after an outing
>Japan thing where doing that signifies the person is important
>writer is Japanese
>audience is Japanese
>difference in behavior when he did it with Serena and other characters
And here I am biting bait.

>>28284818
What about Satoshi? He's...Satoshi.

Ash will emotionally ABUSE Serena

>>28284825
>pretends to say it doesn't make sense after it's been explained and made clear with archive

t. shitposter on the ropes

>>28284859
>Japan thing where doing that signifies the person is important

Yes, she's important to him. Just like Dawn was, like Clemont and Bonnie are, like Brock was, etc.

>difference in behavior when he did it with Serena and other characters

And yet, it wasn't romantic because Ash doesn't do romance.

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>>28284860
Yes

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>>28284880

>>28284887
>Ash doesn't do romance.
He better by the end.

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Serena! Will you be my bridesmaid when I marry Alain?

>>28284921
What is the context of the second one?

>>28284925
He'll get some girl pregnant then dump her to keep going on more Pokemon adventures just like his dad did.

>>28284883
>pretends to say it doesn't make sense
I didn't pretend to say that, I said it. All these mental gymnastics are frying your brain anon.

>>28284859
Giving a gift after an outing is romantic in any culture... unless the person doing it doesn't mean it romantically. Such as when they're an oblivious young boy.
This isn't somehow different in Japanese culture. In fact if you watched more anime you'd know the oblivious young boy is a common trope in Japan with commonly understood tendencies that are somehow lost on you.

>>28284887
This was done on the romance angle and doing that gives more importance to said person. Everyone you listed is on one level and Serena is in another. Then again, you probably know this but still decided to try this for what, 200th time this year alone?

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I get it Serena, there's a ghost behind me. Now quit it or I'm telling Grace.

Are there people who really believe they would insert romance into a kid's show?

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>>28284963
>romance angle
So were scenes in other seasons. Doesn't mean Ash felt romantically about the girl.

You don't seem to understand the difference between superficial romance and genuine romance.

>>28284955
Oblivious young boy as the common trope in Japan doesn't get bashful giving the gift after an outing.

Which, by the way, he's pretty much marking her as more important to others doing the gift giving.

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>>28284938
Which one

>>28284938
She wanted to go with ash and not with clemont

>>28285029
Where have you been over the past 30 years?

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>>28285042

>>28285029
They already added one sided romance into the show. So yes?

>>28285054
Brah, it's all inside your head. It's a kid's show. Go out, take a deep breath. Do some sports, get a girlfriend. Get a life.

>>28285054
Even the earliest cartoon I know to have started in my lifetime had romance in it.

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>>28285074

>>28285067
Are you a virgin? Just asking. But virgins often see romance everywhere even when it isn't there. So, are you?

>>28285092
Wait do you seriously think Serena doesn't like Ash? Are you legitimately retarded?

>>28285035
The one second one in the top row.

>>28285092
Not him, but I'm not obsessed with relationships.

>>28285030
Good job ignoring the rest of the post.

>So were scenes in other seasons.
>You don't seem to understand the difference between superficial romance and genuine romance.
So essentially you use the other scenes that were superficial to call one where they're showing it off as genuine development superficial?

>>28285104
She likes him all right. They are friends. Friendship is the theme of Pokemon after all. If you think they are inserting some kind of romance into it, you are delusional.

>>28285034
>he's pretty much marking her as more important to others doing the gift giving.
"Marking" her? Like an animal marking its territory? Your autism is actually unsettling.
He's thanking her for helping him with the gift, just like he said. If the lemons helped him with it, he would have thanked them.

>>28285150
I think you are the delusional one

>>28285092
So you're saying that all virgins often see romance everywhere when it isn't there?

>>28285150
Yeah you're right man, Serena only thinks of Satoshi as just a friend. I must have just imagined all of those interviews with the anime staff.

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>>28285074
No, really, where have you been these past 30+ years?

>>28285148
>one where they're showing it off as genuine development

Why? Because it had a "romance angle"? It was superficially romantic because of the fireworks and shit, just like those other scenes with their romantic imagery. It was exactly the same.

How is it "genuine development" when absolutely nothing changed between them or their relationship?

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>>28285115
See >>28285042

>>28285150
Serena is in love with Ash. But Ash only sees her as a friend.

If Ash ever falls in love it will be with an action girl who knows how to fight.

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>shippers are delusional

>>28285256
>being in denial

>>28285256
>people who think Ash is currently in love with Serena
>people who think Serena isn't in love with Ash

Only delusional people in this thread.

>>28285163
>make a retarded post and say he has autism, that'll show him
He thanks her for the help, does it at the end of the outing, and he gets nervous about it. If he were thanking the lemons it'd be a thanks and that's it. It all ties together in the end that makes it romantic using the setting, the meanings, and what happened in the episode.

>>28285293
You forgot people who think Serena will go to Alola.

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>>28285271
>calling shippers delusional is being in denial

this thread has gone past the point of no return

>>28285306
>implying there's no chance of Serena going to Alola

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I keep seeing Dawn is best girl everywhere. I don't know shit about her cause XY is the first Pokemon i have watched. She made a Cameo in BW right? I guess i'll just watch the last episode to see how she is.

>>28285207
Literally the meaning of the ribbon.

>>28285321
All we have to do is look back at the relationship charts. They've held true to this day.

Serena --> Ash: Loves
Ash ----> Serena: Buddies

>>28285333
There's not a single chance she will

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>>28285321

>>28285351
>the relationship charts.
what?

>>28285304
>he gets nervous
>i know this because he scratches his nose
but it doesn't mean the same with shota because i get to pick and choose meanings to fit my headcanon

>>28285240
Friend is pretty much what Dawn was.

He's been different with Serena and actually shown interest.

>>28285356
Yeah there's definitely a chance that she will, even if it's a small one.

People have built such a circlejerk surrounding XY, every single time the anime proves them wrong causes them to throw these threads in disarray.

And I don't blame you. It really seemed, for a while, that XY would be the series that could actually challenge and break the status quo.

>>28285375
>I can't into context of scenes
(You)

>>28285387
>He's been different with Serena and actually shown interest.
When?

>>28285351
"Nakama" isn't exactly an easy thing to translate.

>>28285351
Until development has happened.

>>28285392
Even Ass had a bigger chance to win the league than that, and we all know how that went.

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Reminder Serena only admires Ash, not loves now. She got over him.

>>28285445
t. K-F subs

>>28285340
The ribbon has no meaning to Ash. He's an oblivious shonen protagonist. It's not like he deliberately got her a ribbon knowing the meaning of it, it's just a random piece of junk that he won and didn't need, with the added convenience of being symbolic to the AUDIENCE. Please look up dramatic irony.

>>28285304
>if he were thanking the lemons it'd be a thanks and that's it
>I know this because it confirms my bias

What happened in the episode deconfirms what you said because we know how he got the ribbon and why he gave it to her, none of which imply romance. Meaning to the audience =/= meaning to the character. You people desperately need to stop self-inserting and understand the difference between romantic imagery and genuine romance.

>>28285473
>>28285412

>>28285417
>asks Serena to join when he never asks anyone to
>not interested

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>getting triggered by this
???

>>28285481
You sound sane. What are you doing here?

>>28285544
I've lost control of my life.

>>28285555
Your life will spiral downwards after being on /padt/ for too long.

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okay, but how does he eat?

>>28285555
But you got nice quads so it's worth it.

Also, ever since the league I've felt like a ghost in here. I used to be much more into this, but now I can't tell whether whoever is still heavily discussing is serious or not.

>>28285555
Stu Pickles? Aren't you dead?

Nice fivequads.

>>28285481
Are you seriously acting as if how he got it would affect its meaning when the same occurs in other anime?

The meaning behind it is a cultural thing that was implemented by a writer and noticed by the audience that happen to share the same culture. The meaning behind the ribbon gets shown the episode right after as well as the imagery that was used that previous episode.

>self-inserting
This is actually what I'm wondering about you.

>>28285481
>it's just a random piece of junk that he won and didn't need
Alder's keychain. Ribbon's meaning is what you get in XY60 after you add in the gift's meaning in XY59.

>>28285481
>it's just a random piece of junk that he won and didn't need
I only read this part because of the above post, we're talking about Alan's league trophy, right?

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>>28285464
It's funny how ironically, all the features they've been showing for SM that aren't the main story are things Serena does.

>>28285618
>Are you seriously acting as if how he got it would affect its meaning
Its meaning has nothing to do with whether Ash UNDERSTANDS that meaning. That's the point. Nothing implies that he does. It goes against his character and the episode/rest of the show doesn't change that.

The writer intends for it to have meaning to the audience, just like when they show Ash and May swimming with a bunch of Luvdisc. That doesn't mean he intends for it to progress their relationship. That's clearly not the intent because, big fuckin surprise, nothing changed.

>>28285655
Alder's keychain is a trinket from a regional champion. It has inherent meaning to Ash as a Pokemon trainer. The ribbon means nothing.

How many times have we had this same Amour argument despite the anime constantly showing us Ash doesn't reciprocate Serena's feelings?

>>28285739
What, you mean you baiting on two machines as always?

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WHY THE FUCK WON'T THOSE NIP NIGGERS GIVE US NEW TITLES?

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>>28285739
Shipfags won't rest until the show finally kills their last shred of hope. It's only a matter of time.

The really bad ones will continue this into the next season though.

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>>28285618
>when the same occurs in other anime?
Somewhere out there is an anime in which a secondary character feels unrequited love for the main character and that is played for cute and giggles. Or a million.

Stale is samefagging again, I see.

How many times have we had this same bait argument despite the anime constantly showing us Ash does reciprocate Serena's feelings?

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>>28285799
>Ash does reciprocate Serena's feelings

Should I just let it go and let autists like this cling to their delusions?

How many times have these shitposters talked to themselves about this exact same thing in order to derail threads?

>>28285821
>I just want more (you)s
Here you go.

You don't have to pretend for anyone's sake. Tell us how you really feel.

>>28285730
>Alder's keychain is a trinket from a regional champion. It has inherent meaning to Ash as a Pokemon trainer. The ribbon means nothing.
The ribbon is literally the gratitude and feelings Ash presented to Serena. It's why he notices it the episode after he gives it and why he was acting nervous.

>>28285730
>if they don't go from acting one way to hugging and kissing then nothing's changed and no progress happened!
No, really. Why do you try this?

Can we talk about something other than amour?

>>28285901
Is meme frog getting Oaked?

>>28285901
Ha no chance mate.

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>>28285901
Maybe if we had some new titles...

>>28285901
Gotta wait until the samefag goes to bed and stops talking to himself.

>>28285901
Tired of baiting after everyone caught on to your game again?

Serena wants to be intimate with Ash, and Ash wants to battle and train.

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>>28285850
The point anon was making is that all useless junk has meaning to Ash, which is why he keeps it, thus gifting it is a big deal. That's not accurate because he only keeps junk when it has meaning. The ribbon didn't.

>he was acting nervous
Scratching his nose isn't nerves. You have clear examples of Ash actually being nervous yet you insist that it's the same thing.

>>28285960
Then Serena says she wants to do something and he drops the battling and training.

>>28285901
Your asking this in the Serena Thread? The Show has become garbage so the only think people want to talk about is Shipping. Just wait until they get BTFO. Then we'll have peace

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>>28285980
Based husbando

>>28285895
>absolutely nothing changed, not even the slightest change in interactions or behavior
>progress happened!

>>28285977
He's thrown away important stuff or given it away without much care, so that doesn't even work as an explanation.

>Scratching his nose isn't nerves.
Scratching his nose and asking if she'd accept the ribbon.

>>28286024
>>absolutely nothing changed, not even the slightest change in interactions or behavior
Seriously.
Why?

>>28285989
>we'll

>>28285989
I think the people "defending " Amour are shitposters. There's no way anyone can truly believe Ash may be developing feelings for Serena or that Amour is endgame given the series and how horribly one-sided it is.

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>>28286049
Being polite to his friend isn't being nervous. >>28285977 is nervous Ash.

Does this seriously look nervous to you?

>>28286095
So Japan is pretty much shitposting, stale?

>>28286104
>Scratching his nose and asking if she'd accept the ribbon.

>>28286095
You're both shitposters.

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>>28286132
>shonen protag scratching his nose = anxiety

Watch more anime.

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new
titles
when

>>28286095
Shippers are delusional what else is new?

>>28286132
If you want to see nervous see Serena's reactions to trying to hold Ash's hand in XY59, or her going up to dance with him before he extends his hand in XYZ12. That's being nervous. Ash scratching his nose is not.

>>28286150
>missing context of scene

Right back at ya.

It's honestly a meme now. Apparently, we "have" to be delusional shippers now.

>>28285989
>series ends up having a disappointing and underwhelming finale
>all there is left to talk is shipping

XY is truly the Bleach of Pokemon. Final Satoshi Greninja when?

>>28286155
>calling people delusional while being delusional

>>28286178
Not before the next Talk no Jutsu towards Ash from Serena.

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Find a flaw.

>>28286168
>context
>this non-romantic gesture is romantic because he's doing it with Serena

Shipfags argument in a nutshell.

Thanks Alan for ruining the show.

>>28286212
The only salvageable thing in this trainwreck.

Post more Braixen.

>>28286216
>context in a scene
>disregard it and call it a day

Your "argument" in a nutshell.

>>28281219
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
>"Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already."

C'mon dude...just fix this part already. It's pretty unprofessional to mislead people.

>>28286212
Where's the stick?

>>28286212
>Casting moves from tools.