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Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>Newfag Airing/viewing order guide:
http://pastebin.com/anb9qe55

>****New trailer for upcoming events (Flare Arc)****
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDLz9sHvm5A

>Movie 19: Volcanion and the Ingenious Magearna [Jul 16th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/
Excerpt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMWw5xiwW8

>LET'S GO SEE GEKKOUGA IN THE THEATER! SPECIAL GEKKOUGA VIDEO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj-34tfTiqo

Next episode:
>XY&Z39: Team Flare Attacks! The Zygarde at the Prism Tower!! [Aug 25th]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_xyz/trailer/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8uCsb85u-E

Upcoming episodes:
>XY&Z40: The Shocking Zygarde VS Zygarde! The Breaking World!! [Sep 1st]
>XY&Z41: Attack on Lumiose Gym! The Citroid Forever!! [Sep 8th]
>XY&Z42&43 1 Hour Special [Sep 15th]

Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.

>What's the point of watching it anymore?
To enjoy the ride.

>Will Serena win da Ash?
Never give up until the very end.

>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>28001312
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POKÉMON MOVIE SPECIAL SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_Movie_19_Premiere_Commemoration_Special[H264_720P][212D0552].mkv.torrent

XY&Z17 POKÉTV SEGMENT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_017_Thunder_and_Onvern!_A_Furious_Strike_of_Lightning!!_PokeTV_segment[H264_720P][08A85A9A].mkv.torrent

XY&Z36 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_036_Fierce_Fighting_at_the_Kalos_League!_Gather,_All_of_My_Passion!![H264_720P][53FB69AD].mkv.torrent

XY&Z37 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=839243

XY&Z38 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=841536

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z39: THE FLARE GANG ATTACKS! THE ZYGARDE AT THE PRISM TOWER!! (AUGUST 25TH)
>A Zygarde and lots of enormous plants suddenly appear. And as Satoshi, Pikachu and Alan attempt to get to the bottom of this mystery, the Flare Gang appear before them! And incredibly enough, their target is Satoshi...!

>Summary:
>Miare City is thrown into a huge panic when mysterious enormous plants attack. Satoshi, Pikachu and Alan head for the Prism Tower to find out the cause behind all this. But then the Flare Gang appear before them. Meanwhile, Fleur-de-lis starts telling the entire world about his ambitions...!

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Mayuki Makiguchi: Serena
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mariya Ise: Eureka
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Kensho Ono: Alan
>Mikako Komatsu: Manon
>Hiroshi Tsuchida: Platane
>Hideaki Tezuka: Fleur-de-lis
>Tsuguo Mogami: Xerosicy
>Fumiko Orikasa: Carne
>Anri Katsu: Tierno
>Minami Fujii: Trova
>Yurie Kobori: Sana
>Akeno Watanabe: Pachira
>Masako Katsuki: Gojika
>Chiemi Ishimatsu: Junsa
>Karin Nanami: Correa
>Rinko Natsuhi: Akebi
>Akane Fujita: Bara
>Kensuke Sato: Lizardon
>Kenta Miyake: Onvern
>Kiyotaka Furushima: Fiarrow
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration
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UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 47 (Aug 28th)

XY&Z40: The Shocking Zygarde VS Zygarde! The Breaking World!! (Sep 1st)
>Clemont and the others decide to split into several groups in order to stop Team Flare's plans. Bonnie follows Squishy as it stands up to Z2, which has transformed into its 50% Forme, but the evil clutches of Team Flare close in on them! Bonnie now faces the issue of Squishy also being controlled by Team Flare, just like Z2. Meanwhile, Lysandre shows strong interest in Ash and Greninja.

XY&Z41: Attack on Lumiose Gym! The Citroid Forever!! (Sep 8th)
>The damages caused by the Team Flare incident keep increasing. And as this is going on, Serena heads to the Lysandre Labs to rescue Hari-san. Meanwhile, Clemont sneaks into the Prism Tower and challenges Xerosic to a battle.

XY&Z -MOVIE VER.- (SATOSHI)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6d63pkrvpvcqry3/XY%26Z_MOVIE_VER_%28Both_Sizes%29.zip

THE PIKACHU SONG (PIKACHU)
http://www.megafileupload.com/7hw9/The_Pikachu_Song.m4a

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA SOUNDTRACK
http://www.filedrop
per.com/movie19soundtrack

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA
CHAPTER 1: http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8
CHAPTER 2: http://imgur.com/a/cGC71
CHAPTER 3: http://imgur.com/a/l6bs1
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serena best girl
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ONLY SATOSHI AND HIS LEWD RIBBON COULD TAME THEM
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Is Fla-chan dead?
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Six for Ash's Female Archowl
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Alain won fair and square and is the stronger trainer.

Zard is stronger than memefrog.
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After Flare summaries I'm convinced that Tomioka made Ash to lose.
He is totally Alanfag.
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I'm waiting my kiss~
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>>28007035
>10 years
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>>28007055
Or Alain is a superior trainer.
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Alan san also story hero as Satoshi
Mega Shinka Special main hero
League win important Alan character develop
Please understand
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So XYZ 41 is 3 episodes later.

So by XYZ 39, Ash is already hypnotized/knocked out. It'd be odd to not see Serena already worried, but whatever, let's assume there's nothing.

Then there's an entire other episode, XYZ40, where Lysandre "shows strong interest in Ash and Greninja." I mean, there has to be something here. Ash can't possibly be captured for both episodes, and I doubt Serena is doing jackshit. It's only until the next summary in the next episode that she gets the objective to help Manon. But at the absolute worst, ash would at least be saved by the first half of XYZ 41. This still leaves a half episode for Serena to have a new objective other than "muh satoshi" and go help manon since they seemed to bond on a minimum level when manon finally returned.

I mean, it sounds lame, but summaries always leave out the juicy details. None of this really says all that much because who the fuck knows what's gonna happen. But whatever, I only truly expect a standard good-bye ending so the fuck does it matter.
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Serena soon to become worst girl and absolute worst waifu

Wow so much for the non-climactic end, enjoy the rest of the ride
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>>28007059
Why do clothes like that exist? Why is there buttons on serena's coat or that girl's pants
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>>28007090
For cute
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>>28007077
>implying Ashfags know what character development is
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>put in new summaries
>still mess up copypasta

Whatever. There's no point in deleting such a slow moving thread anyway. Just fix it next time when you make the next thread 12 hours from now OP.
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>>28007090
Ask Satoshi

>>28007082
Anon it's quite clear that Ash will be captured near the end of ep 39
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>>28007116
That's what you faggots get for rushing so no one puts back the "It sure looks that way" on the op
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>>28007117
I didn't not say that. What are you implying?
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Alan fought to protect this smile.
She wished upon Jirachi

Ash never stood a chance
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He likes the leprechaun because she looks like a little boy!
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Giovanni disappeared from the show or something?
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So will the ninja village have no part to play in the whole prophecy? Also I noticed rewatching some old episodes that the water shroud had some pretty neat defensive capabilities like being able weaken thunder punch. Maybe ash has more to learn
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>yfw XY&Z becomes Berserk
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Well at least Leprechaun suffering will end and she gets a new caretaker along with our champion and savior Alain.
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You know what'd be funny: If this was actually all a bait and switch. Post-Flare Arc finale would be a flashforward to a year and Ash is competing in the finals again.
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Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.

>What's the point of watching it anymore?
To enjoy the ride.

>Will Serena win da Ash?
Never give up until the very end.

>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

ugh, when are we changing this garbage back to the way it was
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>>28007297

N E V E R
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Don't think too much about it and you all might get a good chuckle from things like this :) It really helps vent off the steam from the league loss
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>>28007318
You're telling me
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IF YOU SEE THIS WHILE SCROLLING THE FIRST PAGE

You have been visited by the HARI SAN OF GOOD LUCK

Action waifus and prosperity will come to you but only if you post RIMA RIMA in this thread.
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>>28007318
get your trashy tumblr meme the hell out of our thread
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Well yeah. Having Alan be unbeaten by Ash seems to beg the question for a rematch later on the series, S/M even. It also begs the question whether he'd get a Mega Charizard of his own.
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>>28007336
RIMA RIMA
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>>28007336
RIMA RIMA
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>>28007318
It should be Ash's Charizard at this point because he always falls back into it.
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>>28007361
This would make a good one lol
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>>28007334
Lysandre and Sycamore when?
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>>28007337
I didn't know it was a tumblr meme when I made it
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>>28007334
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>>28007377
a quick google search would have told you that.........
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Welp, 60k of broken smiles.
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YES SERENAFAGS BTFO!
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By selflessly rescuing Hari-san, Serena will become satisfied with herself and realize she can be someone who gives like Elle, thus she'll be ready to go with Yashio after TF is dealt with. Saving Ash would've been selfish on her part since she is in love with him.

I hope you guys like your shit "resolution".
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>>28007352
not for lewd, cute only
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>>28007388
Leave restoring their smiles to me.
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>>28007397
Actually Yashio dies during the Flare arc so she'll likely go to Alola with her Satoshi
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>>28007394
how so?
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>>28007386
Fuck man who cares. Do you just want to be angry at everything?
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>>28007347
Has ash even told anyone in Kalos that he has a Charizard?
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>>28007429
>whine about threads being made too early
>waaaaah
>uses tumblr meme
>whocares.mp4
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Satoshi-kun! Lillie and Mallow are already waiting! Let's start our alola journey!
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>>28007386
>.........

I think you should go back to wherever you came from.
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>>28007098
They do, that's why they're pissed that Ash never gets any.
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>>28007421
I like the idea of Serena saving Hari-shan because she really wanted to help Manon and i find it cute.
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>>28007466
>complaining about periods
talk about reaching a new low
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>>28007463
When did I whine about threads being made too early?
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>>28007347
If Alain does become a regular rival past XY&Z, it could give a little more meaning to him winning and that could alleviate some this salt I seem to find everywhere.
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>>28007465
Sure thing! Let me go take back the ribbon I gave to Serena first.
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>>28007489
exit the browser and do your algebra homework, kid
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>>28007491
if you don't know then there's no point in tell you
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>one guy baiting everyone
>everyone giving him the (You)s he wants

Never change, /padt/.
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>>28007403
I miss the old fun times full of hype and without broken smiles.
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>>28007500
Anon, he'll be gone in less than ten episodes. So will Manon after they've cucked Ash from winning the league and Serena from winning the Ash.
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>>28007516
Well, all depends if Alola has a Kalos post-game. Also, they might do a longterm rivalry.
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>>28007512

I beg to differ; I've precisely said my post was not bait, I have no point in fooling complete strangers into believing I am smart or achieving, because I know the only possible reactions I will get from my post are either indifference, or calling the post bait due to the widespread "135 IQ robot" meme. That is what my IQ was at the age of five, however. Your reply is so stupid it led me to believe it was bait, I didn't think people would blindly go by the "it's a meme" excuse to disregard any possibility of it being true, sorry if you were actually serious. It's probably better if you choose to disbelieve me, you'd likely get tricked at one point or another by someone else if you didn't.
I think it's pretty funny you don't care, yet you claim my post is bait. Do you not think the best indicator of indifference is not manifesting it under any form? As such, claiming my post is bait goes against your very logic, because it implies you've cared enough to post.
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>>28007548
hello fresh copypasta :^)
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>>28007077
It's actually worse for his development. Ash wining could have completed his initial arc for the seasons, while continuing Alain's arc from a more relatable point. Either a low point he has to overcome as a hero, or a logical turning point to make him a villain.
With the way things are now, he can't really play a villain and if he did at best it would be half-assed because he reluctantly has to fight for Team Flare. At worst it would be confusing as hell and make no sense.
As a hero it's even worse for character development because he's already proven himself the best of the best. There is no tension now if he fights team flare, and if he saves the day then it makes the main protagonist pathetic and ruins all growth Ash built up over the last 2 or so years. If on the other hand Ash saves Alain, we would be confused over why Alain needed Ash's help in the first place. Either way were not going to give a shit because we know the bad guys are going to lose.

It did not help that the way Alain won was probably the worst way possible. There are so many ways the writers could have done this better if they planned to have Ash lose anyways.
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>>28006987
the producers really hate the fanbase no?

Serena wants rescue Hari- san over Ash, fuck they really want Alain be the hero of the TF saga.
Fuck Adamant and everyone who want to see this shit.
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Well.

At least the stream won't lag.
As much.
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>>28007645
The stream is entirely for you, most people doesnt wants to watch this anime anymore.
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>>28007664
At last, /padt/ has been restored
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>>28007645
>>28007664
>I can finally watch Aikatsu with no lag
Everything was almost worth it.
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>>28007664
You know what? Long hair Serena looked as mediocre as long hair Sakura did.

That is to say, they look fine until you cut their hair and realize they should've just looked like that from the start.

Serena's long hair looked fucking unkempt as fuck. She needed a rubber band in the back just to keep that shit secure, and her locks honestly did her no favors. It looked messy, and her hat framed it. At least if she removed her hat you could see her smooth head, but her hair looked like it was kept together with dirt all the time unless an animator did his job to save it and make it look fluffy.

And that outfit in the dori is by far her worst look. I'm not a fan of her hipstery trendy one either, but at least it makes better use of her hair. That one is pure ugly girly literal 10-year old garbage. The haircut made her look so much older, that they actually started to rewrite her mannerisms as a result. Now that's a fucking makeover.
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>>28007676
No, with the time people will stop with the rageposting would find a better anime and these threads probably will disappear, there's no more enjoyment in this ride.
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>>28007548
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>>28007714
go to bed paco
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>>28007711
And that is your shitty opinion. Your opinion is not a fact.
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Is Shinzō Fujita the guy to blame for making Ash lost in the league?
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>>28007503
Take your own advice. I think your mother is calling you.
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>>28007730
No, it's Tomioka the Alanfag.
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>>28007090
It's like you don't want them to be able to take their clothes off. Is that how you get your kicks? Making girls wear the same things forever?
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>>28007512
This meme is potential, too bad it's /padt/ only
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>>28007711
I like her in all the hairstyles, hair doesn't matter to much for me.
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>>28007782
Squishy is for Bonnie only
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>>28007782
you know what, you're right. I'm just being a fag. She usually looked alright, it was just a few bad shots that did her in.

I stand by her dori dori look looking abysmal though.
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>>28007778
Just post a Subaru/Emilia/Rem version on /a/ and it'll blow up.
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>>28007157
>Manon: Alain's actual loli-waifu, who is so dear to him that he participated to the league, so he can collect ME energy to wake her chespin up
>Serena: One of Ash's "MUH FRIENDS"
I see your point anon.
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>Clemont is getting his character development finished with him battling Xerosic having to sacrifice Clembot and him already having his ultimate battle with Ash and as such will be able to become the gym leader he has always wanted to be

>Bonnie will learn that her father is Blaziken Mask and help Puni defeat Corrupt Zygarde and most likely be forced to part ways with him thus learning a very harsh yet important lesson that most trainers never learn long before she even has a starter thus getting a lot of development

>Alain will most likely finally get over his edginess and probably return to being Sycamore's assistant after realizing he doesn't give a shit about power anymore and just chills at the lab with Manon thus ending his story arc

What will Ash and Serena get out of the Team Flare arc?
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>muh candy girl will save Ash
Welp guys.
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42/43 seem to be when Serena and Manon in the helicopter takes place after rescuing Hari-san.
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>>28007645
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>>28007871
Pretty sure the preview shows the Helicopter headed to Prism Tower, isn't Lysandre Labs on the ground somewhere in the city? is it anywhere near Prism Tower?
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>>28007805
This is what I am thinking about. Rem at the door
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>>28007066
10 years of sounding like a female chain smoker in English, yes, Ash Ketchum.

Natochenny must be proud she's butchered your voice so long with Cathcart's slang dialogue to boot.
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>>28007088
Hey, part of worst English dubbed saga and worst Pokemon dubbers ever, DuArt & TPCi, it fits perfectly.
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>>28007388
Source?
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>>28007088
Shoko lied Clemont was Ash's candy girl all along guys...
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>>28007867
Serena will get >>28007397
Ash will Oak Greninja and go to Alola, getting nothing.
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>>28007918
Not sure if it's even possible for the dub to get worse in Sun and Moon than it was in Kalos...vp, can TPCi hit a new low at this point, or will it be the same abysmal XY dub standards or the cocktease BW dub?
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>>28007645
Can't believe I forgot to crop this picture, I would try to avoid having Bonnie on the picture at all times.
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>>28007933
Probe same XY dub shit Anon...dub has been cancer for years now, sadly...oddly enough, things started going downhill when 4Kids left desu.
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Kek, Serena isn't rescuing Ash
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>>28007940
I only cropped it so I could use it for comfy threads outside of /vp/

I love the original
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>Serena will stay with Yashio in kalos
>Ash's team is shit and will get boxes and he will move on to alola and forget all about Kalos like always
>Alan will stay with Manon fulfilling what he always wanted while being the kalos league winner

Was the ride worth it guys?
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>>28007912
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkDBCBiFsMs
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>>28007980
If there is a send-off for amour that feels substantial, then yes. Like many have said, a cheek kiss or recognition from Ash.

We will have gotten my favorite episode and something cute to look back on for Ash, so I'll look back on this as being worth it.
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>>28007386
Google searches miss 4chan threads. Threads like the one the meme started in.
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How far behind is the dub?
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>>28007980
I hope the ratings get w orse. Its amazing how they ruin the XYZ saga
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Time to hop on the wagon of better things, Satoshi will soon do it so you should too anon.
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>>28008019
Thanks anon.

That certainly is amazing. I doubt this will make an impact on TPCi, but I hope it does.
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>>28008065
I wonder if people will be sad if this girl doesn't appear in the next season.
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>>28008019
holy absolute fuck, keep spreading it around
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>>28008089
Of course they will be.

>>28008019
>>28008091
On further inspection, it appears that a significant number of TV Tokyo's recent videos have very high dislike ratios. I could not say why, but it's POSSIBLE that it is from backlash to that one Pokemon episode. I just doubt that a single episode of a single TV show would spawn that much backlash.
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>>28008118
>I could not say why, but it's POSSIBLE that it is from backlash to that one Pokemon episode. I just doubt that a single episode of a single TV show would spawn that much backlash.
It's exactly because of Pokémon. Stuff like the Aikatsu Stars and PriPara episode previews would have no business getting those dislikes otherwise.
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Is Ash at the top of Lumiose or not?
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>>28007714
>and these threads probably will disappear,
then I'll keep making them just to annoy you :^)
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So i guess that if the threads keep being overly cynical and emo about XY&Z any half decent ending to the season would have a greater effect?
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>>28008141
Yes Anon-kun he is clearly shown as being at the top of Prism Tower with Lysandre being tortured.
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>>28008159
And yet Clemont and co. don't try and rescue him immediately?
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>>28008162
Hari san ntr'd Ash.
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>>28008162
He is pretty clearly shown as being with Alain and betrayed by him Anon, Clemont and the others probably think that the strongest and second strongest trainers in all of Kalos outside of the E4 and Diantha herself are perfectly fine.
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>>28008134
Really though? That's thousands of dislikes on many different videos. I'm sure some of the videos are just mixed up in this as a coincidence and have low ratings because people are actually upset.

But yes, I agree that anime previews and such would make no sense to have low ratings for no good reason. Still, I find it hard to believe that it's ALL because of Pokemon. There's at least a month's worth of videos there with dislikes far outnumbering likes.
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>>28008145
This can't annoy me because i like these threads, i just think they are going to disappear because the anime staff do not care about the fanbase.
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>>28008178
RIMA RIMA RIMA RIMA
(Soon it will be Chespin who rules the anime!)
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>>28008189
I haven't heard about anything else happening that would warrant such hatred for TVTokyo lately. Also, keep in mind that the dislikes are likely to be mostly from Western people since Japanese users prefer using Nico Nico over Youtube.
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>>28008180
But he's at the top of the tower. All they have to do is look up
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>>28008197
As long as there's a small group of people still interested in the anime then the threads will remain
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>>28008226
Clemont is INSIDE of Prism Tower battling Xerosic, Bonnie is at ground zero watching Puni fight Corrupt Zygarde with her dad and Serena is with Manon at the HQ of Team Flare, how the fuck are they going to see Ash up there? why would they even LOOK up there when everything is at ground level or inside buildings?
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>>28008233
I'm pretty sure it would be huge bullshit if they didn't see him. I mean the attack is literally being started from there. Hell most of the cities eyes should be up there since there is a glowing lizard on top of it.
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>>28008269
I think people would be more concerned with the rampaging tree tentacles
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It really does seem like Alan will be the one to go save Ash, unless Clemont is able to move on to the top of the tower once defeating Xerosic. But I think he'll have to be busy deactivating the weapon.
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Before our smile got broken, when do you really started to believe he's going to win this time?

For me it was since the official AMV about Greninja.
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>>28008205
Chespin and eevee were a mistake.
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>>28008284
As soon as Ash vs Shota got confirmed to be the semifinals.
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>>28008281
So much for Serena rescuing Ash.
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>>28008284
When the shota fight was done and that piece of shit video hyped unnecessarily red water shuriken wasn't the finishing move for Shota.
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>>28008284
>>For me it was since the official AMV about Greninja.
>"Let's go see Gekkouga at the theater!"
>Well, that sucked, he was onscreen for all of two minutes and then he got captured. At least he's going to shine in the league, look at that hype orange shuriken!
>Fuck everything.
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>>28008284
Since the opening of XY&Z
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Before your smiles were broken, when did you really start thinking Serena would win the Ash?
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I'm still baffled by the red shuriken

Like what was the point exactly? It would be like if when Goku used the Spirit Bomb and it did nothing
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>>28008280
I have to imagine they'd be wondering where the fuck he is.
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>>28008403
Desperate ploy to get more viewers/it was meant to do something and the script got changed at the last minute.
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>>28008403
:^(
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>tfw some shit happens and the timeline gets reset
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>>28008462
>XY&Z38 is the Sonic '06 of the Pokémon anime
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>>28008462
Anon this is not The Flash
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>>28008151
What could be a decent ending?
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>>28008518
Satoshi wwins the league year later in timeskip.
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>>28008521
>
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>>28008521
Well, they could always do this; I think a way to get it hyped is drop hints throughout the whole series when Ash will win, so it'll keep people guessing when he wins it.
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what the fuck is eureka's problem
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>>28008585
this is the way to do it; have a flashforward episode that has Ash already be a decorated trainer, then do not reveal which region he won at.
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>>28008605
She readt the script .
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>>28007532
I kinda doubt it. The good rivals never stay anymore. It would be great t ohave him and Shouta show up as a sort of duality but then its still shit b/c of this >>28007098

Which is compounded by the fact that anime league works diff from game league so there is way more room for them to still have him lose within reason.

There are all types of ways to introduce strong trainers. They could have someone Cynthia tier walking around doing whatever b/c league and gyms are of no interest to him or her.
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>>28008284
I thought he had a chance if Alain didn't cross over into the main continuity. Was on the Alain train ever since.
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>>28007473
Sorry, character development is left for characters the writers care about. So not Satoshi. Enjoy watching the happiness you guys believed battle robot 9000wpuld have slip from his finger tips.
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>Clemont, Serena and Bonnie: Hey look Ash is being crucified at the top of Lumiose Tower, let's not go rescue him.
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>>28008845
At least Clemont will be in the same building. Bonnie fucks off to Anistar while Serena also goes somewhere nearby (assuming Lysandre Labs are in the general vicinity of Anistar since Puni-chan ran away from there and met the gang right after they had left Anistar).
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>>28008605
She realised her feelings for her onii-chan.
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>>28008845
Ash gets what he deserves for losing the league.
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>>28008887
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>>28008887
Literally not his fault this time
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>>28008900
>tfw Ash showed practically no emotions when he lost
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>>28008284
When he fought Diantha.
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>>28008909
Emotions aren't programmed into robots.
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Have the writers lost their minds? Why on earth would Serena go save Hari-san instead of Ash? Do they enjoy seeing us suffer?
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>>28008917
But even Citroid is capable of showing more emotions than Ash did.
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>>28008909
Recently he became depressed an entire episode for losing a gym battle, Ash is broken inside that's why he can't show any more emotions.
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>>28008284
I believed at the Dianthe fight.

I did not believe when the XYZ music didnt come on at the synchro part.
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>>28008921
Because Serena said she wants to help Manon in this scene >>28007488
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>>28008921
I haven't been here in the past couple days, what confirmed that she'll save Hari-san instead of Ash.
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>>28008943
Then I guess he is worst than a robot then. Guess it's time to look for an anime where the writer does care about his mc.

>>28008921
>>28007397
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>>28008956
But what about Ash? His life force is being drained.
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>>28008921
It killed the little remaining interest I had in the Team Flare Arc, maybe that's their goal?
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>>28008956
But Ash is the bigger priority.
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>>28008964
>Guess it's time to look for an anime where the writer does care about his mc.
Any ideas guys for a new anime to follow? i'm open minded about this.
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>>28008977
Robots don't have life force, silly.
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>>28008989
It doesn't matter. Any of them. Pokemon is literally the only anime I know where the protagonist gets nothing. Even the other stupid monster toy franchises all have their protagonists win in the end.
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>>28008977
>>28008984
Guys Ash looks fine in the preview episode, i think he is captured in the end and Serena doesn't know yet, they are separated.
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>>28008281
Alan's watching him get tortured
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>>28008984
They split their separate ways. Ash goes with Alan to handle the fighting since they're the heavy hitters. Alan doesn't know what's happening at this point yet either. Then it gets revealed Team Flare is responsible and Alan just lets them capture Ash. Boom, instant drama and Ash's friends don't look like they don't care since they trusted Alan too.
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>>28008989
Anything not involving Ash really. Even the mega specials if you just watch those then jump into xyz and just watch where Alan shows up you can actually find enjoyment in pokemon and a main character actually getting development and not getting hit in the face with feces every other episode.
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>>28007384
best edit is best
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>>28009070
>>28009085
First the Leprechaun and Sycamore and now Ash.
What is wrong with Alan?
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People watch Pokemon for Ash?

I watch it for the Pokemon
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>>28009025
But everything is coming from Lumiose tower, how do they NOT see Ash? Or even think to look for him?
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>>28009107
Dunsparce pls, we know u hate Ash.
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>>28009103
he's got chunni faggot betrayal syndrome.
he'll fuck over anyone at least once.
this was ginger hitler's greatest mistake, trusting a chuunifag to not fuck him over at the last minute
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Oh crud, I think I just made sense of this. Why would they be after Ash because of Terminus Cave? Well one, he's powerful, and two, BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE ESCAPED ZYGARDE CORE. They want Squishy back. Nothing else. Well, maybe to try to figure out how Ash-Greninja works, but obviously it will be to no avail, it can't be forced or duplicated.
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>>28009132
They're busy suffering and crying.
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>>28009103
He's cursed to succeed in everything he doesn't want to do (like helping Team Flare in their evil plans or win the league) but fail in everything he wants to do (like smile protection).

Lysandre figured it out so he keeps encouraging him to be a hero who protects his loved ones because he knows Alan will achieve the opposite. Look how it turned out. His success rate as a henchman is perfect. And Alan never intended to do anything bad.
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>>28009089
Ash is cursed right?
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>>28009200
He is destined to roam aimlessly until either
A. a tsunami kills all Japs
B. Pokemon dies
C. Rica dies
D. WW3 breaks out and he becomes a war icon and is banned from all media :^)
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>>28008403
Not even that. Why was he glowing. What was up with all that wind. And most importantly, why did all Charizard do was fall over a bit?
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>>28009140
Dumbass, Squishy is already fighting Bluni in the same episode

And they clearly saw Bonnie with Squishy, so in any case they'd want her instead of Ash. The sole reason Ash was kidnapped was because he made a dumb promise to Lysandre to show him more about his form with Greninja.
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>>28009239
At this point Ash might as well just become a leader of some evil Team and actually succeeds as one.
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>>28009087
So is Mallow confirmed to be the Brock of the next season? Does it mean Serena could stick around for another season?
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>>28009268
They kidnap Ash so the others will give them Squishy. It's not hard.
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>>28008909
If they really did change the episode to have him lose, the original version would have had a big "I won!" moment which they would've had to cut out.

Ash wins version:
>"I won!" scene
>Smiling for the rest of the episode because he's happy
>Friends in the crowd are also smiling because he won
>Emotions make sense

Ash loses version:
>No scene expressing any emotion at losing
>Bland smiles for Ash when at least be a little resigned
>Bland smiles for friends when they should be sympathetic towards Ash
>Emotions practically nonexistent

All it needs is Ash winning for the whole episode to make sense. There's no way it wasn't the original intent.
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>>28009303
>Does it mean Serena could stick around for another season?
I hope she gets replaced by Chicken. I'll pick the anime back up if this happens.
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>>28009318
Alan also didn't need to win for his end of the plot to progress. He would've got the mega energy regardlessly and that was his objective in order to make Manon happy (so that Hari-san would wake up), not winning a battle he originally wanted no part in. As for his own character, he had already thanked Ash for the fun battle before the last hit. He could've lost and the rest of the arc wouldn't have changed one bit for him and Manon.
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>xy Ash
>Can't emote for shit
>Literally just a robot for battles
>Bw Ash
>At least humorous and not just a robot

Apologize! APOLOGIZE TO SHOTA SATOSHI RIGHT NOW!!
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Do you think Nintendo (or who ever is in charge of the anime) decided Ash should lose now to build up for next season where he may actually win a league? Do you think they were testing to see just how popular the show was?

Did they miss there chance though for peak views?
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>>28009406
No matter their intentions, they've fucked up massively
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>>28009380
That Elesa battle is unforgivable
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>>28009301
The secret is that Ash's dad is Guzma :^)

He is going to alola take up his rightful place as second in command :^))))
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>>28009406
A little bit of that, a little bit of wanting the TF arc to be the real event.
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>>28009406
no
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We need more of suffering Ash.
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>>28009479
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>>28009537
We need more suffering
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>>28009318
>All it needs is Ash winning for the whole episode to make sense.
>There's no way it wasn't the original intent.
>Friends in the crowd are also smiling because he won
They've been pushing the moral lesson that victory isn't everything though so being accepting of defeat isn't a surprise. The reactions of the crowd aren't any indication either because their reactions even at the locker room were too restrained for a victory. I mean, you think this was a clue that they intended him to win? For that theory to work, they didn't just change the scene of Ash winning, they also changed the crowd's reaction, they added Ash carrying Greninja and being sad and added Manon being happy. And changed the synching of their lips to whatever new japanese words they altered for all the altered words to match.

Why you would even give them the benefit of the doubt is bizarre. They just strung people along. They never intended him to win the league. Most likely because they'll make Ash win a match against Alan when he's revealed to be Team Flare. They'll have the good guy beat the bad guy but only in the end so they didn't let it happen in the league.
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>>28009479
>Suffering

Can't find emotion. Processing blank stare.
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>>28009479
Why do we feel, Master Ash?
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>>28009563
Didn't jumped
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>>28009239
>A. a tsunami kills all Japs
This. With no survivors please.
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>>28009575
Because we didn't jumped, we must suffer
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>>28009575
Bdumb frogposter
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>>28009317
They already take control of Squishy, read the summaries retard.
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>>28009578
Kek
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>>28007958

Korrina or Diantha end up rescuing him in the 1 hour special. I'm calling it
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>>28007297
its fine as it is because its truth
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>>28009548
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>>28009595
Thanks for forgetting you have Sceptile, Infernape and your own fucking Charizard, Ash.
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>>28007744

Are you Rebellious, the one who posted a big rant in Iwane's BBS??
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>>28007386
anon that meme stated here in 4chan are you retarded?
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>>28009164
Do they even know he gets captured? Because it be very stupid writing if they were at the base of the Tower and be like "hurr where is Ash? Let's split up and do stuff unrelated to looking for him."
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>>28009621
Korrina will battle Flare like the gym leaders battled the sages in BW. Diantha will protect the city.
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>>28009651
>Do they even know he gets captured?
I don't think so, Ash is alone with Alain in the preview, Serena is helping Manon, and the lemons are crying for Puni-chan or something like that.
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Radioactivy este jpgog are more important.
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>>28009658

Then who will end up rescuing him?? Alan himself?? The TR??
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>>28009643
Link?
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>>28009640
Suffering is needed.

Ash must sufferu
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>>28009671
Aren't they going to wonder where the fuck he is?
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I think the idea is that they split up beforehand. They each have a different thing they're after. Clemont would of course save the gym, Serena helps Manon save Chespie, and since it's too dangerous, Bonnie ends up with their dad, but Squishy wants to save the other core.
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>>28009689
The memefrog
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>>28009693

http://6727.teacup.com/iwanemasaaki/bbs/10587
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>>28009689
Lysandre will set him free himself and recruit Ash

The final battle will be Ash vs Alain, The Elite Four, Diantha, All of the trainers that know him and Zygarde with Ash-Greninja reaching it's absolute peak and BTFO everything, he goes to Aloha afterwards to go through the trials to rediscover himself in which he will end up becoming like DP/AG Ash personality wise but stronger and more skilled :^)
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>>28009696
They are together at first but then they got separated, i guess no one knows Ash is in trouble.
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Even in serena's hands, ASH MUST SUFFER too
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>>28009718
Fug, I know this guy. He is some Advancecuck who has an irrational hatred for Ash's rivals.
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>>28009689
Team Rocket are supposed to have some type of role and saving Ash would be pretty based and fitting for them

The team up episodes are the best ones
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>>28009722

Fuck off, I don't want a character regression on him. Change the AG-DP personality for a more depressed and suicidal character. For the 1st time I want to see a pessimistic Ash. Keep his reckless and stubborn attitude, but make him more negative and prone to kill himself (a Joe the Condor wannabe).

And make his travelling companions his optimistic counterparts. That will give him an excuse for character development (or character recovering)
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Even in shota's hands, ASH MUST SUFFER too
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>>28009737
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>Serena doesn't even help rescue Ash

Enjoy Alan becoming the hero of Kalos, Lysandre apologizing and having a sudden change of heart, nobody being implied dying, and nothing about Kizuna Genshou and Cuckninja ever being explained at all.
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>>28009786
>Lysandre apologizing and having a sudden change of heart
He will fucking die
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>>28009479
https://my.mixtape.moe/xyjvhb.mp4
I agree.
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>>28009767
Lmao thats pretty edgy, only a kid would want Ash to be so edgy :^)
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>>28009722
>>28009767
You do realize we're only going to get a personality reset, as well as an ability reset, right?
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>>28009802
Anon-chan we are all masochists here, we like setting our own hopes and desires up just for them to be toppled down and pissed upon!
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>>28009802

Then we have to prepare ourselves for a more insufferable and stupid Ash, right??

Then fuck the producers. And Fuck Doraemon, that anime is the responsible of making the shittiest concept of kodomo main character (the one who's never allowed to reach his dreams and is forever doomed into a future of misery, hardships and poverty).
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>>28009863
>Then fuck the producers. And Fuck Doraemon, that anime is the responsible of making the shittiest concept of kodomo main character (the one who's never allowed to reach his dreams and is forever doomed into a future of misery, hardships and poverty).
I wonder if the authors were inspired by Charlie Brown.
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>>28009911
At least Charlie Brown sometimes succeeds at the goals he sets for himself, no matter how meagre or insignificant they are.
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How Serena and Manon get to the Lydandre labs? Who brings them there?
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>>28009911
I don't think so. It's just that they thought people wouldn't mind the formula of Ash losing everytime but this time people are having none of it.
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>>28009945
What i am betting is that when the gang splits up Manon gets worried about Hari-san and Serena decides to go with her to protect her, Manon likely knows the location of Lysandre Labs, hell i am pretty sure that was where Hari-san is being kept right?
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>>28009911

Shudo said in his butthurt blog entries that the producers took inspiration in these 3 animu: Sazae-san (an eternal anime), Anpanman (for the episodic hero vs retarded villain shenanigans) and Doraemon (for the incompetent MC bullshit). Shudo also said he made Ash based on Isamu Akai (the worst Red) from Kosaku Anakubo's Pocket Monsters manga. He didn't make Ash based on the MC of Pokemon Zensho or Pokemon Special, because they were winners and he wanted a Nobita instead of a Goku
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>>28009972
Yeah but they go on helicopter apparently. I wonder if belongs to Diantha or Steven
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>>28009968
the anime itself is something with so much unfulfilled potential, it takes just one casual fan to see all of the myths stories trainers so on to see that the franchise could easily have multiple anime airing at once with their own unique spin or view on the Pokemon universe like rangers professors the champions and so on.
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I want to rape Ash for every hole until he cry.
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>>28010003
Kind of hard to do that when he doesn't even seem to know how to cry anymore, you can't exactly make someone snap when they are already broken in half.
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>>28007088

Even Misty had the courage to save Ash in the 2nd movie.

How ironic... the fugly, tsundere, feisty and bad cooker "worst girl" ended up being the best waifu in the end.
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>>28010032
girls can't be best waifus when they are already fucking someone you cuck :-)
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>>28010027
Then he is going to look like a broken doll without soul, i like that idea more.
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>>28010003
He'll just smile blandly and thank you for the fun battle.
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>>28010032
Serena saved Ash in the mirror episode.
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>>28010051
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He should of used Greninja to just cut Alain's head off
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>>28010051
You do realize that Ash would just ignore you and his mother or someone else would knock you off him with a broom right? Emotionless Rape is shit rape.
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>>28010055
Top kek, i guess he is gonna give up in his dreams and become a low cost prostitute.
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So this is what a league loss does to the people here.
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>>28010088
Well i mean, if it works for Griffith i don't see why Ash can't also fuck some people and become some sort of horrifying Demon God
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I don't know why the writers want to prove that Serena cares about other things besides Ash when we already know that. First the Dance episode and now she is saving Hari-san instead of Ash.
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>>28010109
After BW i honestly thought it'd be ash last season.
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>>28010122
Because they want to show that she is not onlt moe waifu girl.
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>>28010119
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>>28009863
>>28009985
This feels like I've read these somewhere else.
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>>28010144
Would you mind if Ash sacrifices all his friends to win like Griffith did? I wouldn't
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>>28010144
All he needs if for Pikachus pokeball to turn completely red and for eyes to sprout all over it :^)
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>>28010122
And that's why Japan needs an earthquake or tsunami, besides explosives in the TV tokyo company.
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>>28010177
Someone ask a drawfag to draw Ash with the Behelit and his friends with the brand of sacrifice
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>>28010190
>two bombs weren't enough

Leave Americans to do a half-ass of a job.
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>>28010109
>friend texted me his grandma just died ten minutes before the finals
>after the finals I replied to him "I envy her."
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>>28010137
And the best way to do that is to make her save Ash.
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>>28008118
>a single episode
more like 19 years of episodes
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>>28006987
Pokemon Golfwhen.
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>>28010122
Since the leprehchaun isn't in total shock perhaps they still don't know what happened between Ash and Alan. This may happen to Hari-san or Squishy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Kxe-qy8qzk
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Will adamant work on SM subs?
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>>28010252
Oh well... not happening, and sadly we can't do nothing about it, all the fun or good expectations about this anime are dead now..
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>>28010252
By doing that she is still shown as moe waifu.
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>>28010296
why they became normies
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>>28008909
This is another problem of this Ash. He is jus Battle Robot 3000. His obsession for battles has increase like never before and overall he is a boring character to watch. He started XY as a Gary Stu. At least OS-DP Ash showed emotions unlike this shitty clone.
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>>28010252
No she won't. She'll be forgotten and we get more tomboys and brown girls like Iris
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>tfw Mirror Ash won everytime and everyone was pissed that he is Gary Stu.
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>>28010329
All he ever says now is motto motto tsuyoku

He's Alain during the Mega Specials but not as edgy and more annoyjng
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>>28007980
Serves you right stupid faggot. 90% of the anons here became interested in XY just because of Serena. The same in Facebook, Serebii and other Forums. She will fuck off and you will like it. I know i will because main girls like May or Dawn were 100 times more interesting and fun to watch.Seeing Serena worried for Muh Ash more than 100 episodes is hell. Even Misty was a Gym leader stayed in Kanto for that. And Iris wanted to become a Master Dragon. Thats better than those shitty idol contests for beta fags and Otakus
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>>28010378
I miss the idol contests...
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>>28010378
Why is Paul running away from himself?
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>people attacks the messenger
Ayyyy, poor tvtokyo
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>>28010378
>Riding a woman frame bike.
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>>28010378
Serena was for me the best thing in XY.
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>>28010329
>>28010333
He might be the perfect specimen for the Alola professor and whatever Lillie's evil gay conspiracy is.
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>>28010426
would Dawn's adventure have been better with a bike?
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>>28008323
This.

I have no idea how you can call something like that "promoting". He hardly even had a role in the movie, and he jobbed hard in the anime. What the hell was the point of generating so much hype? Were they just trying to crowdplease based on the poll results or something?
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>>28010436
>Lillie's gay conspiracy
mite b cool
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>>28010329
>Battle Robot 3000
(stop with that shitpost...)

What is the defeat against Shota and the Snowbelle arc?

Satoshi enjoy every battle now, no matter the outcome...he don't need to be a frustraded child all the time he lose!
We had enough with the past seasons.

Just understand that he have matured and is more serious than before (And I really like that), that doesn't mean he is a robot...
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>People complain Ash is winning too much in XY
>make him lose
>people complain
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>>28010471
No, it would feel rushed.
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>>28010499
>>People complain Ash is winning too much in XY

dare I ask where?
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>>28010409
Fuck them.
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>>28010491
She starts to examine and look after Ash afterwards to strengthen her conspiracy
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>>28010498
>What is the defeat against Shota and the Snowbelle arc?
Something that was actually well written.
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>>28010555
Then why bother shitting on him you retarded shithead
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>>28010549
She stalks him so much she falls to the trap of ashyboy
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>>28010409
>The ones that make you believe he will win with bait previews, promo, summaries, etc
>Not to blame
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>>28010498
He's absolutely a robot 90% of the time. There is no nuance to his behavior, he just acts in the same tired cheerful way every time. Ash of previous seasons had an aggressiveness and a sort of arrogance tempered and supported by his trials, and during AG/DP had a sort of calmness and thoughtfulness to his general demeanor befitting a person who's been around the block a few times. This Ash has all of those traits downplayed significantly outside of rare as fuck eps like XY&Z 28 or XY 5 and is just an overly excitable kid that gets his dick sucked by everyone around him. Hell, no one even so much as challenges his typical mentality anymore.
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>>28010499
>>People complain Ash is winning too much in XY

Nobody was complaining about this. Winning too much is only an issue if the fights are boring and it looks like Ash will easily win each of them.
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>>28010600
You are clearly new. Back when Ash was in his winning streak from nami up to Alan. People bitched about it all the time.
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>>28010597
>is just an overly excitable kid that gets his dick sucked by everyone around him
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>>28010580
I've never shat on Ash during XY, I'm disappointed they stripped away all his personality right after he got some much-needed development during Snowbelle, which is the writers' fault, not his own character's. I was convinced they were focusing much more on Alan during the first half of the finals because they were in turn going to focus more on Ash in the second half. Instead, the past three episodes suddenly had Alan as the protagonist and Ash as someone who was just there as a stepping stone for Alan's character development and his own character was so out of focus we didn't even get to hear his thoughts during the battle until the very end (where they were still shared with Alan's) and his reaction to the loss was like Shota's in XY&Z35 (but you can be sure we're not going to get a scene where he further reflects on it like we did with Shota).
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>>28010498
>>28010555
>>28010580
I have already seen that same shit for at least 3 times in Kanto,Johto,Hoenn and Sinnoh. It isn't character development when it doesn't matter in the long run. You could see Ash growing from OS to DP. This XY Ash along with BW Ash are just pure bullshit and i'm glad he lost
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>>28010615
>People is one person
Back to r/Trump for you retard
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I have a deal for you. If the League was all that was important to you, leave now or I swear we will come to your house and cut your internet cables ourselves.
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>disconnect myself from the anime and /padt/ until now, when I heard iwane also criticized the anime
>check on archives to see if it's true
>find one of /padt/
>find recent summaries
>And as this is going on, Serena heads to the Lysandre Labs to rescue Hari-san.
>Hari-san
>H A R I - S A N

Is there any rest from this evil?
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>>28010597
So what you're saying is, we need Iris back
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>>28010658
Fuck off tv tokyo staff.
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>>28010661
Iwane didn't say shit, it was only ONE small animator that said it was a shame Ash didn't win for once
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>>28010644
Post more ash's reactions where he seems to get sodomized.
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>>28010644
The writers lost interest on him and I don't blame them, there is nothing left to do with him and he ws never that interesting in the first place. Doesn't make Alan taking his role ok tho
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>>28010673
Sure, might as well be able to direct rage towards a specific character than faceless execs like now.
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>>28010661
Its yournown fault for caring about a shallow character like Serena. And for thinking she would do something of importance in a 20 years old TV Anime Childrens Commercial
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>>28010690
Iwane tweeted too, it was linked multiple times. Also
>Aito Ohashi
>small animator
Kek.
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>>28010661
>"I love Emilia"
>Ash loses
>now Serena is going to save Hari-san instead of Ash
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>>28010673
No, we need Ash to start displaying his negative character traits more openly again and for people to respond accordingly. We don't need someone to chastise Ash's every single action, his arrogance and hotblooded behavior can do the job of occasionally backfiring on him on their own.
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>>28010644
Writers have lost a clue how to write him and completely gave up. Look at best wishes, he is a fucking retard with heart and humor then suddenly in xy is a serious fuck. It's like you can't have a middle ground.
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>>28010703
>this will never happen because Ash lost

fuck everything
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>>28008845
Fuck serena and the amourshipping.
Candy Girl my ass.
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>>28010694
No pls no, this makes me horny as fuck.
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>>28010708
What did Iwane say?
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>>28010732
this
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>>28010661
>Muh candy girl
I'm sad I wasn't here to shit on people here desu

>>28010690
Iwane said it in his blog. He said that having a mc that constantly loses might not be such a hot idea.
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>>28008921
At this point I believe 5han they really hate shipping fanbase.
Why the hell they push this from the start.
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This is a face of determination. OS-AG Ash had them all too. BW Ash was a retard but at least he didn't felt like a robot. XY Ash is just the writers don't giving a fuck anymore
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>>28010747
>He said that having a mc that constantly loses might not be such a hot idea.
And that the story was pointing to Ash winning.
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>>28007011
>Serena heads to the Lysandre Labs to rescue Hari-san.
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>>28010722
>>this will never happen because Ash lost
These kind of pictures hurt.
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>>28010661
The only thing left to see is how much more can the anime destroy our expectations. It's like schadenfreude done upon oneself.
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remove battle robot
remove battle robot
you are worst trainer
you are Gary Stu you are league loser
return to kantoo
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>>28010767
And I bet Chunishit will save him
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>>28010783
Alain is the battle robot.
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>>28010799
Don't call the champion chunishit you salty fuck
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So do we all now agree that Pokemon the series XY is crap.
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>>28010776
There isn't anything left. SM is pretty much confirmed as BW again, only way more pointless. The only other thing they can do is have another character that IS going after the Z Crystals (because there's no way the main anime will ever be about that), and thus he is the only one that can be the island champion.
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If you guys hate the anime, why are you here?
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>>28010815
He is Chuuni and a shit
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>>28010826
it was good UNTIL this clusterfuck. The finals made everything before it redundant
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>>28010815
The champion of a destroyed city.
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>>28010826
No
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>>28010830
To rageposting until we feel better and these threads finally die.
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>>28010831
>>28010843
Satoshit
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List of things that could worsen this sour season

Let me start

>on screen NTR
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>>28010826
It was alright until it decided to shit the bed and die. It always had significant flaws, but they were generally more acceptable due to the fact that it typically offset it with its more bold choices on average.
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>>28010771
>Noivern never won a single league battle
>Talonflame tied with shittiest bird
>Pikachu's monumental effort was completely wasted
>Goodra's return was pointless since he never won a single league battle either
>Pikachu damaging Charizard was pointless
>Goodra setting up Rain Dance was pointless
>Greninja's finishing move was pointless
>Ash's team lost to a fodder team made of irrelevant asspulled Pokémon that were never seen before nor will ever be seen again plus Mega Plot Armor Zard
Great battle guys, everything was worth it.
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>>28010859
>sitting here for years shitposting because you hate the anime
Stale pls
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>>28010829
But game designs don't necessarily correlate with the show. He could be getting a Rowlet instead of a Litten considering he just evolved two fire starters before Greninja.
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>>28010865
He is shit but still better than you.
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Gary was here
Ash is a loser
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>>28010875
Broken dream.
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>>28010836
Pretty much this, I can't get myself to even try and watch past episodes because it all feels damn pointless.
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Why didn't Greninja DOOOOOOOOOOODGE!!!
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>>28010911
Dodging is for Faggots
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>>28010911
Hell, why didn't Greninja tank it? He took Mega Sceptile's tail missile in the gut, exploded and kept going in mid-air.
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>>28010722
Wait the end of the TF arc!
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>>28010942
The TF arc is shit.
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>>28010933
Stop...

BURASTOBAAAAAN
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>>28010878
I wasn't even talking about that. I was thinking about how the game is essentially funhappytimes: the game. (filler city)
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>>28010938
Powerlevel far more high than Mega Sceptile
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>>28010826
>So do we all now agree that Pokemon the series XY is crap.
Kanto and Johto are still my favourite Pokemon Seasons because of Nostalgia. Hoenn its great too and Sinnoh is the peak of the Series for now(hope SM changes this). BW is terrible. So overall for me XY is on the third spot with Nostalgia goggles off.
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>>28010872
It already happened. What was unexpected was that Serena would do it...with Manon.
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>>28010987
someone make edit of that meme, you know the one
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>>28010957
We'll see...
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Post any hope AT ALL
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>>28011046
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>>28011046
Her smile always gives me hope
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>>28011046
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>>28011046
There's no hope only pain.
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>>28011046
WE NEED MORE SUFFERING
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>>28011071
Hahaha top fucking kek
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>>28011046
>>
'sup PADT, I don't browse these threads but I enjoy watching the anime anyways. I saw a post in another thread that said that since Ash lost the league, most people here consider the XY season to be much worse than before, others even ruined, with some dropping the series all together, mentioning that since that episode aired the userbase on these threads dropped like a rock.
Of course that was just some posts some anons made, so I'm not saying they are true, but it made me curious anyway, what does this place think about the anime since that episode aired?
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>>28011127
>flashback to a mere fifteen episodes ago
>Ash: "Alan, are you competing in the Pokémon League?"
>Alan: "No."
>today
>Alan: "Wait, what the fuck am I doing here and what is this thing in my hands?"
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>>28011046
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>>28011046
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>>28011046
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>>28011165
but he lost it after ash lost
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>>28011127
>those branches around the trophy

hmmmmmmm
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>>28011165
>yfw he killed himself after Ash lost
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>>28011148
3 kinds of anons really
>FUCKING DROPPED
>WELL AM ALREADY HERE MIGHT AS WELL FINISH THIS SHIT
>t-this is fine, i-its all about the ride!
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>>28011177
Looks like Xerneas' horns.
>>
succ
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>>28011148
Willing to finish the ride for the sake of closure, but not expecting lots of good shit coming out of it. Might delete my XY folder once it's all said and done.
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>>28011127
The truth is that both Alan and Ash are liers. Ash for promising everyone in Kalos and his mother that he would win the League. And Alan because he is a dick
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>>28011165
>Takeru decides to stop emofagging and storms into Prism Tower
>he frees Ash from the shackles
>he then calls him a complete fag for breaking his promise and throws him off of the tower
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>>28011246
J U S T I C E
U
S
T
I
C
E
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That's it then. There is no recovery at this point no matter what they do.They really fucked up this time. Imagine TV Tokyo notices the extreme drops in view alongside every preview getting ridiculous dislikes and they choose to cancel the series. The problem is this will slowly domino effect the entire series until it no longer exists since a main source of advertisement is gone. I hope everyone is ready for this to go down the second the next episode airs. We've been lied to since the prophecy and now no league victory and very likely no amour. Even so I'm gonna miss this series I really will.

RIP Pokemon
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>>28011246
>Takeru saving da Satoshi
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What did they mean by this?
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>>28011246
I want to know why Clemont and co. Don't see Ash when they go to Lumiose tower.
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>>28007336
RIMA RIMA
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>>28011264
>extreme drops in view
It won't happen, they are kids, they will watch this thing no matter what.
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>>28011241
If you're gonna keep posting that include the next shot that has Ash talking about the League itself, strongs trainers and such.
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>>28011186
I wouldn't be surprised..This was the one reason I thought Ash was going to win. Then again Serena was riding on all her friends and rivals dreams and still lost as well with kalos queen
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>>28010716

In other words...

We need an Ash ready to fistfight others if they push his berserk buttons in a clever way. An Ash who says "konoyarou!", "bakayarou!", "temee!" & "kusottare" very often if he's pissed off. An Ash who can become scared as hell and shed sissy tears when his reckess pride and confidence is shattered in front of a rival. An Ash who is ready to give up on his dream when he goes under a losing strike...

In other words... a really hotblooded, funny to an extent, violent and more jerkass Ash, just like Tyson from Beyblade manga
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So guys are you still salty?
Didn't I warn you?
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>>28011264
Don't give up until the very end!
I'm sure the TF Arc will redeem somehow the defeat of Satoshi.
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Who /angryandcynicalandshitpostingthethreadyouonceloved/ here?
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>>28011148
This thread has 98 individual posters, more than twice what these threads averaged before the league started, so any attempt at trying to gauge what "the people here" think is kind of futile at the moment.
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>>28011103
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So what's the moral of this anime?
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>>28011327
Ha you wish. The closest thing will be Ash beating Zygarde or Lyzandere but we already have Alan and 100% Puni-Chan for those
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>>28011298

The Japanese declining birthrate says the opposite, dawg.
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>>28011350
The MC is a loser.
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>>28011298
>60000 dislikes on the next episode preview
>Only 1376 likes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkDBCBiFsMs

I hope your right anon
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>>28011340
That's a giant fucking lie, i have been posting since XY30 roughly and i have seen it hit 80-90 posters several times since then.
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>>28010826
They ruin it in the finals episodes.
Why the fuck they do that?
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>>28011246
Either this or >Le Sandre winning and destroying the world are the only things that can save this trainwreck.
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>>28011350
That you can't win unless you look like an older than 10 year old character, at least that's what I've noticed a similarity with most of the League champions now that I think about it.
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>>28011373
They are mostly from a spanish fansite I heard.
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>>28011350

"No matter how hard you work and try, you must never have high expectations on your future", "give up on your childhodd, go back home, grow up and find a job"
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>Love doesn't win
>Hard work doesn't pay off
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>>28011336
Me. I almost wish I listened to the denialfags back then.
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>>28011375
There's a difference between "several times" and "every single thread", anon. These threads are still averaging more posters than they did two months ago.
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>>28011399
This.
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>>28011380
When Ash finally becomes Champion people will be all amazed in universe because he is the youngest Champion in the history of the entire world

Even if you count the games Red was 11 :^)
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>>28011350
Stop acting like Satoshi and become Alan. Eventually things will go your way. Get your goals and a trophy to show for kicking some losers hope. while said loser is left all alone again. Truly a gem for kids.
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Was thinking about how the anime could run after that disaster of an episode:

>TF schemes happen
>Alan is forgiven as he was merely a puppet who thought he was helping the world, it's Lysandre and the rest of his team who get the worst of it
>though Ash lost, due to his efforts to save Kalos and his burning passion to become a Pokémon Master, Diantha allows him to have a chance at the Elite Four, and then against her if he suceeded
>but first Alan had to take his own challenge
>Alan was played around like a fiddle, he's got nothing for him but his Pokémon, Manon, Sycamore, Ash and his friends
>he decides to focus his strenght once again on protecting what's precious to him: not merely Manon or Sycamore, but the entirety of Kalos, and he believes that becoming a Champion, someone that wouldn't need to answer for anybody else (at least that's what he'd think, this could or could not turn out to be true), would help him get there
>Ash sees that Alan will most likely succeed to become a Champion and will depart to Alola to refresh his mind of everything that just happened to him, as well as an opportunity to train and prepare for his upcoming challenge
>Clemont stays since Citroid is kill and he feels prepared to be a Gym Leader rather than excuse himself of his own duties
>Bonnie probably stays with Clemont, sinking in her own tears since she's lost everyone she grew to love as dear friends
>Serena [insert your own headcanon here], I just don't know
>Ash eventually goes back to Kalos and challenges the E4, aiming at the title of Champion, currently held by Alan

I'm aware none of this shit could happen, just wanted to share my curiosity
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>>28011327
I want to believe anon, I really do. My scars run deep this time around due to believing.
That said I won't give up until the very end :)
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>>28011399
>>28011422

>Hard work doesn't pay off


You pieces of crap, didn't watch the mega specials and the xyz episodes featuring Alain right?
Please even Alain is seen battling in the Volcanion movie!

Most of their time that duo are either battling or battling
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>>28011399
>Love doesn't win
Alan would like to say otherwise
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>>28011440
>my curiosity

Fuck, meant my imagination. Oh well.
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>>28011383
This. English speaking community still had a good bunch of sites that didn't believe in Ashley. The majority of spics swallowed the whole thing. Source : I'm from hueco mundo.
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Satoshi x Citron OTP
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>>28011440
>>Ash eventually goes back to Kalos and challenges the E4, aiming at the title of Champion, currently held by Alan
You forgot:
>and loses
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>>28011439
But Ash was shown being comforted by his friends and chatting with them after losing while Alain was all alone.
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Life's really harsh isn't it?
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>>28011465
>>and loses
>gigantic tsunami hits and engulfs the entirety of Japan the next day
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>>28011440
I also think Alola might be to Ash what Yashio training is to Serena.
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>>28011464
Citron isn't going to save Satoshi he only cares about Eureka.
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>>28011472
That's only momentarily, unless a kid just stops watching then. Everyone knows he will get redeemed continue traveling with Manon while Ash leaves all those friends in kalos and never talks to them again.
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>>28011479
Yes.
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>>28011532
Yeah so Alain will have a rather awkward relationship with Sycamore and Manon, cool, Ash will have over 60 Pokemon his Mother, Professor Oak and whatever new people he meets in Aloha, not to mention the countless people he has met and befriended over the course of his travels.

Not to mention he kinda has the respect of most legendary Pokemon and Deus Ex Machina himself respects him.
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>>28011127
I want to punch alan in the gut
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>>28011479
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I'm the only one here who is just waiting for XYZ to end so i can watch SM already?
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At one point in the preview for next week Ash is talking to Bonnie and Serena is there. Where the fuck do they go when Ash gets captured?
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>>28011636
Yes
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>>28011636
>I'm the only one here who is just waiting for XYZ to end
No.
>so i can watch SM already?
Probably.
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Help me, i want to recover.. I'm so broken. The build up was too much just to lose
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>>28011654
Enjoy Flare?
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>>28011674
I can try
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>>28011327
According to this thread, the only thing that can is to fucking kill Alain AND his Charizard.
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>>28011654
Your high priest says Ash has a good chance at 2020 or some year close to it.
But nothing it's better than 2020
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>>28011654
Stop hitting the robot Serena. The concep of winning a League isn't programmed in his system
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>>28011578
It's a kids show they will get over it almost immediately, and he will have all that he wanted.

>>28011636
Kalos was a mistake
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>>28011688
Just enjoy this gorgeous motherfucker with being 100% sure he will be beaten into the ground.
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>>28011696
I want Ash to wake up and that the league was just a nightmare.
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>>28010597
>Whaaa ash is competent that makes him a robot.
nigga this ash emotes all the time.
whether it's loving his pokemon or supporting his friends.
he even has serious moments of sadness and anger.
this meme needs to die
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>>28011578
> Deus Ex Machina

Well shit if this is true maybe He'll let Ash try the finals again in an alternate reality and Serena can try to make amour truly cannon Except they'll both end up as future diary users and be forced to take part in the game
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>>28011700
>the gaijin games will give Ash another chance
Sorry, my Master, but you're dead wrong one this one.
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>>28011729
Nah Lysandre will win and replace Alain with Ash since Ash has more potential :-)
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>>28011762
I would watch Poke-Mirai Nikki, the characters even fit.
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>>28011766
You gotta admit the olympics will have an impact on the manga and anime industry, lots of references, lots of animes based off and a good opportunity to promote the good old fashioned japanese superior pride

If there's a chance, it'd be my chance on this
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>>28011825
>If there's a chance, it'd be my chance on this
but not the anniversary? kek yeah sure
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>>28011755
Leave it to baded Deus anon
>>28011798
I would watch that shit as well, but I don't know how i would feel about Serena being basically Yuno
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>>28008226
I guess they all look up to ash
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>>28011759
Has XY Ash ever done pic related? I don't think so. Lest hope SM Ash actually feels like a living thing
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>>28011865
Well....Max would probably be Reisuke
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>>28011825
>You gotta admit the olympics will have an impact on the manga and anime industry
Kek. The Olympics won't do ahit to Anime or Manga. That has never happened. Why everyone thinks it will? Did the Soccer Championship changed Anime? NO
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>>28008284
Since BW ep 01
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>>28011891
This I'm ok with lmao
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>>28011950
>lmao
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You won't do it. You wagered the existence of this thread on the league alone and you still haven't done it. /vp/ should have sued your ass. Well, no more.

If Ash does not get TF victory and Alain is broken to dust, you are all PERMABANNED from ALL of 4chan.

-sign here, fucks
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When?
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>>28011963
>Am i fitting in yet guys?
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new thread

>>28011962
>>28011962
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>>28011983
Why was she so sexual?
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New bred:
>>28012020
>>28012020
>>28012020
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>>28011762
>>28011798
>>28011865
>>28011891
I now want a god tier fanfic of this to fix the league loss and to make amour canon. If anyone has GOAT writing skills they should do this
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>>28012006
Shitposter OP

>>28012033
Correct OP

Right then
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>>28011877
yes.
he got flustered after Sycamore told him that Pikachu wouldn't be able to megaevolve due to not being a final evo
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>>28012070
Sycamore doesn't know shit, Mega(stoneless) Pikachu will fuck Team Flare up bitchslap Charizard X free Ash and then fuck every Pikabitch in the world.
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I think Alain and Serena are going to be Misty and Gary 2.0

Gary was Ash's rival through Kanto (Not to the extent Alan is now but still) and Ash never beat him until Johto
With Alain still being Ash's rival and even if his appearances arent as frequent as in XY, he could still serve as an obstacle for Ash to overcome

This could build up to a PWT arc where Ash can have his rematch and finally win there

I think Serena should still be his companion too, the new team could be Ash, Serena, new girl (Luna) and new bro
With the new guys, Ash could serve as a mentor while still trying to be the very best himself

The Kalos league wouldnt have be the conclusion of our wild ride, just the stepping point into a new adventure
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