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Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>Newfag Airing/viewing order guide:
http://pastebin.com/anb9qe55

>****New trailer for upcoming events (Flare Arc)****
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDLz9sHvm5A [Embed]

>Movie 19: Volcanion and the Ingenious Magearna [Jul 16th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/
Excerpt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMWw5xiwW8 [Embed]

>LET'S GO SEE GEKKOUGA IN THE THEATER! SPECIAL GEKKOUGA VIDEO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj-34tfTiqo [Embed]

Next episode:
>XY&Z39: Team Flare Attacks! The Zygarde at the Prism Tower!! [Aug 25th]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_xyz/trailer/

Upcoming episodes:
>XY&Z40: The Shocking Zygarde VS Zygarde! The Breaking World!! [Sep 1st]
>XY&Z41: Attack on Lumiose Gym! The Citroid Forever!! [Sep 8th]
>XY&Z42&43 1 Hour Special [Sep 15th]

Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.

>What's the point of watching it anymore?
To enjoy the ride.

>Will Serena win da Ash?
Never give up until the very end.

>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>27955274
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POKÉMON MOVIE SPECIAL SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_Movie_19_Premiere_Commemoration_Special[H264_720P][212D0552].mkv.torrent

XY&Z17 POKÉTV SEGMENT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_017_Thunder_and_Onvern!_A_Furious_Strike_of_Lightning!!_PokeTV_segment[H264_720P][08A85A9A].mkv.torrent

XY&Z36 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_036_Fierce_Fighting_at_the_Kalos_League!_Gather,_All_of_My_Passion!![H264_720P][53FB69AD].mkv.torrent

XY&Z37 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=839243

XY&Z38 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=841536

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z39: THE FLARE GANG ATTACKS! THE ZYGARDE AT THE PRISM TOWER!! (AUGUST 25TH)
>A Zygarde and lots of enormous plants suddenly appear. And as Satoshi, Pikachu and Alan attempt to get to the bottom of this mystery, the Flare Gang appear before them! And incredibly enough, their target is Satoshi...!

>Summary:
>Miare City is thrown into a huge panic when mysterious enormous plants attack. Satoshi, Pikachu and Alan head for the Prism Tower to find out the cause behind all this. But then the Flare Gang appear before them. Meanwhile, Fleur-de-lis starts telling the entire world about his ambitions...!

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Mayuki Makiguchi: Serena
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mariya Ise: Eureka
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Kensho Ono: Alan
>Mikako Komatsu: Manon
>Hiroshi Tsuchida: Platane
>Hideaki Tezuka: Fleur-de-lis
>Tsuguo Mogami: Xerosicy
>Fumiko Orikasa: Carne
>Anri Katsu: Tierno
>Minami Fujii: Trova
>Yurie Kobori: Sana
>Akeno Watanabe: Pachira
>Masako Katsuki: Gojika
>Chiemi Ishimatsu: Junsa
>Karin Nanami: Correa
>Rinko Natsuhi: Akebi
>Akane Fujita: Bara
>Kensuke Sato: Lizardon
>Kenta Miyake: Onvern
>Kiyotaka Furushima: Fiarrow
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration
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UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 47 (Aug 28th)

XY&Z40: The Shocking Zygarde VS Zygarde! The Breaking World!! (Sep 1st)
>Clemont and the others decide to split into several groups in order to stop Team Flare's plans. Bonnie follows Squishy as it confronts Z2, which has transformed into its 50% Forme. But then the evil clutches of Team Flare strike! And just like Z2, Squishy also ended up getting controlled by Team Flare.

XY&Z41: Attack on Lumiose Gym! The Citroid Forever!! (Sep 8th)
>As he attempts to retake the Lumiose Gym, Clemont challenges Team Flare scientist Xerosic to a battle, staking their pride as scientists.

XY&Z -MOVIE VER.- (SATOSHI)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6d63pkrvpvcqry3/XY%26Z_MOVIE_VER_%28Both_Sizes%29.zip

THE PIKACHU SONG (PIKACHU)
http://www.megafileupload.com/7hw9/The_Pikachu_Song.m4a

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA SOUNDTRACK
http://www.filedrop
per.com/movie19soundtrack

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA
CHAPTER 1: http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8
CHAPTER 2: http://imgur.com/a/cGC71
CHAPTER 3: http://imgur.com/a/l6bs1
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>no Mable
but why
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Flying to the new thread, hoping we get new subs soon! Too bad for the outcome for the league but oh well there's the still TF arc.

Thread song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-yIiu69850
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When are we getting the old op back?
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COLOR VERSION FUCKING WHEN
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>>27958442
It said "Best Flare returns", not "Worst Flare returns", that's why.
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>>27958386
>Will Serena win da Ash?
>Never give up until the very end.
That's the spirit.
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>>27958465
come on now
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>>27958460
I say let it be for now.

More likely until shitposting goes back to the usual levels, personally it's fine by me either way.
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MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
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>>27958485
moods?

you been watching Inside Out again, anon?

what's going on inside your head
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Reminder that league rematch or pity trophy not happening. Rica said Ash is gonna try again and celebrated the end of working on XYZ
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>>27958485
don't worry bro, just redirected a mod from /qa/ to here, he said he's banned the copypasta spammer soon and will be monitoring this thread for about an hour or so, just chill
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>>27958498
so have there like, been any sort of hints about the SM anime yet

can we expect a mini trailer or something in the coming weeks, maybe even during/after the hour-long TF special

how long before XY did we know about the cast
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I thought we were going to use this for the new OP image?
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>>27958528
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>>27958386
>>What's the point of watching it anymore?
>To enjoy the ride.

>>Will Serena win da Ash?
>Never give up until the very end.
Where were you when OP did something right for once?
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>>27958517
Only hint we have is an ad for plushies of the Alola starters mentioning "the new anime series".

So basically we know the show isn't getting canceled after XY&Z ends and is going to continue into gen 7. That's literally it.
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>>27958542
It's shit
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Will Ash ever have more than 3 companions at one region?
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>>27958542
It's been like that for three threads now, Slowpoke.
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>>27958517
For XY trailers and info was in October.
I think after TF they will announce it.
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with sherming dead where are we gonna watch
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OP here, just noticed the [embed] [embed]. Time for sudoku
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>>27958573
I'm not here 24/7 m8
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>>27958569
are we counting their traveling Pokemon as well, like Pikachu/Togepi/Piplup/Axew/Dedenne etc

>>27958589
nonono please no
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>>27958589
ugh, just delete the thread and remake si vous plait
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How about we stop making new threads so quickly?
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>>27958632
>>27958621
>>27958589
seriously who does this actually effect outside of triggering autism
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>>27958632

How about we don't? :^)
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>>27958640
They're joking you dumbass
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how the hell can you sit in a thread for 10 hours and do nothing but bait and whine? this place is worse than serebiiforums, gamefaqs, twitter, facebook, gaia, youtube comments section, and steam COMBINED
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What the helll's going on? they rape drug Ash in front of Alan. Now I can see some sort of rematch.
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>>27958581
Sherming Satan is up again
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Serena is so pretty, does she not think her looks are good enough to try and confess to Ash?
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What was Lysandre's gay french nickname?
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>>27958663

The big question is: WHY?

If Ash won the league, it only makes sense, but why would they drug someone who isn't even a threat to them? Alain soundly beat Ash in the league, so why would they need to put him out at all??
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>>27958690
he knows too much
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>>27958660
It honestly looks like most of the shitters have left now, anon
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>>27958690
Domination.
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>>27958693

About what?

Why doesn't he capture Serena, Clemont, and The Bonnie as well?

Why even let Ash make it to the finals at all when he could have drugged him up before then? Did he just do it to make Alain destroy him to kill his confidence?
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>>27958690
How about you wait instead of jumping the conclusion like the finals outcome. As if people still haven't learned their lesson.
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>>27958690
Lysandre is 100% convinced Alan is his puppet. Second biggest threat wold be Diantha but he can send Malva to deal with her. So just go jesus on the second place that everyone loves, also synchro energy.
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>>27958724
They want to break Alan into helping them.
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>>27958690
So Clemont can be with Serena during the crisis and potentially cause them to fall in love.
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Is Alain committing polygamy by loving Ash and Manon
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>>27958755

IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW
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>>27958762

No, I will NOT post that garbage.
Even if I wanted to, this is a Pokémon thread.
Please leave this thread.
Understand?
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>>27958690
Pikachu's face is like Obi-wan looking at Anakin. They considered Alan a bro.
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>>27958762
yes nepu pls I'm tired as fuck
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>>27958786
i see what you did there
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>>27958796
why the hell is that a webm and not a looping gif, so retarded
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>>27958775
Ash is not going to end with her, now is as good a time as any to take Ash away from her and have another guy protect her who she can fall in love with and not be separated by a region. Aka Clemont.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbob2ki58_U
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>>27958848
Clemont's heart belongs to Lillia and/or Citroid
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>>27958724
Probably because Ash is the only one that can synchro and likely Lysandre doesn't even know the others exist.
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>>27958863
>watching the dub
>>>/out/
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What's the biggest homo ship in pokemon? just for research.
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>>27958883
dawn/zoey
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>>27958894
m8
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>>27958903
alright yeah, fair enough
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>>27958865
Seeing how much the writers shit on Ash, him getting captured is probably just a way for Clemont and Serena to be together and bond during the crisis, eventually falling in love.
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>>27958883
Dawn/Cynthia by far
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so I found this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1BGTorITxk

should've been the ED desu
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>>27958930
the points don't matter
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>>27958930
Change your mind about going to bed, stale?
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>>27958671
>still talking about this
She hasn't talked to him yet because they are either saving it for the end or are just gonna drop and forget about it at the end.

Although it would be really fucking nice if she would already.
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>>27958955
canonizing a ship prematurely is the quickest way to kill it off
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>>27958955
Or she'll just fall for Clemont in the Flare arc.
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>>27958877
>Being a nit picky faggot
die
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I don't like how pikachu looks the same in future fanart. Pretty sure he's gonna get super fat due to all those puffs.
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>>27958933
Isn't it based on a BGM track from the movie, just rearranged and given lyrics?
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Why did Cynthia want dawn so much, never saw enough or any of DP/BW
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>>27958982
yeah it's Lugia's Song but honestly the dub did the same thing
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>>27958984
It's mostly a meme from the games, but BW made it seem like it was the case in the anime too.
Anime Dawn being lesbian as all hell just adds to it
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>>27958755
So, is lysandre plan some Marty mcfly bullshit?
Great Scott! It all makes sense now!
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>>27958978
C-cute.

Eh I think it makes sense in a way, we've seen some old Pokémon that look pretty much the same to what they're supposed to look, the only exception that comes to my mind is that old Noctowl in OS.
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What's this?
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>>27958973
If this happens the writers do not deserve to be paid, that would actually be pathetic.
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>>27959010
A shocker and a tranny.
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>>27958984
Probably Dawn was just one out of many, since Cynthia gives that (wo)man-eater vibe.
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>>27959010
Rica capturing the jari-boy in the ball he deserves to be caught in
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When will Ash and Greninja face the consequences of losing the league?

Takeru is pissed, Ash's mom's promise never came true and Greninja never lived up to the legend of the hero Greninja.
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>>27959014
>being so new you don't recognize shitposter pasta that gets spammed in this thread 20 hours a day by the same sperg
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Poor kids ;_;
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>>27959010
Some event she's attending I'm guessing.
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Guys!!!! i need you to help me with something... i want to send a email to the pokemon company or whatever is in charge of the pokemon anime, but, in english, i mean, it's like they don't understand their target, the same happens with Nintendo, they ASSUME that their target are children, but, the majority of their customers are 15+ years old, the same happens with the anime, they ASSUME that their target are some 3 years old shitheads, but the reality is, that the majority of people who watch the anime are 15+ or 20 years old guys and girls. They don't do any kind of research, they only ASSUME.

We all know that the japanese has some massive problems when comes to make decisions, some shitty 95+ years old japanese say something and everybody have to do whatever he say, no matter what, even if is some kind of bullshit that can bring the entire company down, and i, as somebody who is a future businessman and have some kind of knowledge about how global business work, i want to help to the pokemon company or a least, try.

This is why i want you to help me, if somebody can give me the email of the pokemon company, i will be really glad.
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>>27959010
>>27959023
>tfw suddenly the pokéball episode makes sene
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What's going on with Nintendo?
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>>27959046
No.
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What good stuff can happen in Alola?
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>>27959046
you're asking the wrong faggolas here b0ss
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>>27959046
>mfw this is pasta we'll see in the majority of /padt/ editions from now on
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>>27959076
Ash and Serena realize "whats good".
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So, overall who is your favorite Ash Kalos mon?
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>>27959035
It's a pretty realistic scenario though.
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>>27958724
>filename
Good question, is that a Pokémon move I can't identify or just something else?
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>>27959096
Yea thats the only reason I even replied to it, because with how those autistic writers dealt with the league anything could happen.
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>>27959093
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>>27959076
a more likely chance at multiple beach episodes
capris
fuck knows

aren't Cynthia and Lance rumored to be involved in this

>>27959093
Frito Bandito but Bat Baby/Man is a close second
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>>27959093
Hawlucha,but the 5 of them been great. Is this his best party in terms of personality?
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Bonner, look.
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>>27959107
Ash can't have anything good. He lost the league to an edgy faggot, and he'll probably lose Serena to Clemont.
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is Heliolisk ded
is Magnemite ded
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I actually think Ash regards Hawlucha pretty high.

Didn't he call him a Captain?
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This is proof, people.
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>>27959177
Nah, they're likely with Clembot, whom by the time being is still running...
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>>27959202
>Ash and Serena are gonna die
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>>27959202
>XYZ is the last season
>Ash never won anything

How mad would you be?
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>>27959188
He called him the team's shock trooper during the Shota battle but it only referred to that particular match.
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>>27959188
I wonder if Ash's Pokemon use some kind of honorifics when speaking to each other in their language. We know Greninja adds -dono to Pikachu's name, what about the others?
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>>27959307
>we never saw Hawlucha in the dream episode
>he would have been a Japanese spanish
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>>27959202
They die fucking?
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>>27959314
He calls Ash "patron".
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>>27959202
no
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>>27958861
The biggest question i have about this is....how the fuck will Delia let Ash go on another Pokemon journey after this? It seems likely that Ash is being tortured live, possibly worldwide as to break the peoples spirits so how could Ash's mother or even any of his friends even let him travel to another region?

Is that why Ash goes to Alola? because it's a safe peaceful region with new Pokemon that doesn't attract negative attention from psychopaths like Lysandre?
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>>27959426
Well then is Delia coming with? Im sure she would want to be with him after how tramatic that looks.
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>>27959463
>we Get Ash and his Mom traveling across Alola and the trials make Ash stronger while showing Delia she doesn't need to protect her son any longer because he has grown into a independent lad, each of the Trial Captains would also rotate each island so we get Mallow for one Island then Lana for another and so on.
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>>27959495
>Delia is Ash's companion
desu I wouldn't be against this
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>>27959495
>we get Mallow for one Island then Lana for another and so on.
Why do you spell Serena like that?
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>>27959511
Serena will be his travel companion for the secret hidden fifth island who Delia fusses over :^)
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>>27959495
>Delia is worried about her son travelling alone
>They meet a cheerful and dependable girl who also happens to be a Trial Captain
>Mallow is now Ash's babysitter by Delia's request
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>>27959530
>Well golly ma'am that's kind of my job already, to guide new trainers through out this island but i mean hey! if you wanna pay me to use your son as a taste tester and for doing my job then go on ahead!
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>>27959495
>>27959530
>>27959554
Awful.
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>What's the point of watching it anymore?
To enjoy the ride.

I presume some people are whining about this addition, but its actually a valid thing to say for the newfags who think that the League is the be all end all of the anime
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>>27959111
he was shat on him all series, only for him to be the best in the finals aside Pikachu
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>>27959730
I liked it when he shattered the Trick Room during Valerie's gym battle.
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>>27959730
To be fair the more I saw of him, the more I liked.
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>>27959314
What dream episode is this?
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>>27959765
Pikachu dreams of Squishy
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>>27959730
Hawlucha is all about his personality.
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>Main rival of season.
>Moped floor with Ash in league
>Is going to watch him being tortured so bad that Guantanamo looks like kinder party by it
>There is barely enough episodes for the series and revenge rematch is unlikely.

Fuck nips, after two fucking decades they've could let Ash succeed.
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>>27959765
XY&Z5

>>27959833
Got to see what they have in store for its conclusion.
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>>27959833
PS.
Only way this series can be redeemed to not be worse than AG is Lysandre revealing he doped Zard/stunted Greninja during the finals.
Otherwise Alan's powerlevels would not only wary like haywired AC unit, but also be around Champ tier.
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>>27959862
I think the final being rigged on any way or manner is highly unlikely at best. However, it's possible that we haven't seen Ash-Greninja's full power yet.
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Ash losing to Alan feels like if Ash would've lost to Paul in the league.

All development for nothing...
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>>27959875
It doesn't change the fact that Greninja is going to be boxed despite having the coolest ability of all his pokemon.
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>>27958495
>yfw the nearest shot at Ash being retired probably will come only with Rica's death
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>>27959927
Nah, they'd get a replacement, this isn't The Simpsons, even if they retired Ash she could voice another character.
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>>27959927
>They replace her with Romi Park
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>>27959833
Main rival is Shota.
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>>27959876
SHinji
SHigeru
SHootie
SHota

Alan is not main Rival, he is tobias disguised as rival.
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>>27959994
So, who is SM rival? Original Character? Because Hau is not
SH?????
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>>27959994
>>27959986
Essentially
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Satoshi needed to win the league and retire in Johto, with Shigeru vs Satoshi being in finals and new series starting with Yuuki watchiing Silver Conference on TV.
Kalos only proved Satoshi isn't going away, considering Rica's tweet about how he is gonna try again and fact XYZ is finished.
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>>27959994
To have Trip between the rest feels completely out of place.
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Thread is asleep? I guess that's better than being littered with shitposting like it was between Thursday and Saturday.
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>>27958978
>tfw you've seen this fanart a couple times already but just now you see the detail of the rings in their left hand
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>>27959202
DEEPEST LORE
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>>27958671
Serena truly is the prettiest pokegirl.
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>>27960318
She is only one of the best with long hair.
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>>27960343
you'd make a pretty corpse
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Goddess of purity! Elle appears!!!
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Strike a pose! Beautiful Elle is shining like a diamond!
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>>27960370
>there are people in this thread right now that actually believe Serena isn't the prettiest girl in Pokemon
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>>27960419
Serena is the prettiest, most amazing girl and I'm in love with her.

Elle is beautiful too but she's only a friend!
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>>27960442
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What the fuck is happening right now.
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>>27960419
She sure was.
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>>27960527
I mean I like serena too but this shit gets out of hand really quick.
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>>27960419
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Ash travelling with Mallow, Lillie and Luna when?
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>>27960575
only in fanfics
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>>27960575
>Luna
You mean Selene
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The King and Queen of jobbers
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>>27960633
They deserve to be losers together
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>Luna

That's a strange way of spelling Serena?
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>>27960575
>Imagine the doujins
The question is, who will share Ash a tent?
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>>27960575
Lillie is probably going to be the Bianca of SM. Hopefully battle bot Ash is dumped and replaced with a more likeable personality.
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>>27960633
A shit type of pottery
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>>27960575
in your dreams Lunacuck
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>>27960648
>bianca of SM
Hope not, I wanna see her every episode.
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>>27960633
Not gonna lie, they lost the chance to include that Elle and Alan were childhood friends as well. Would've made even more pottery.
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>>27960644
He gets to sleep outside while the girls are in one big tent. Since he doesn't have one given he's sharing tent with clemont in XY
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>>27960633
Also add there crying Shauna and crying Takeru.
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Ello fan of english pokémon. Tv Tokyo worker here. Next season will no have Satoshi. Satoshi gone. Next season will instead have adventure of rocket gang. Kojiro, Musashi and Nyarth be main character.

This not fake, I work Tv Tokyo.
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>>27960689
Manon is elle's little brother
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>>27960698
Rica said Satoshi will try his best again, you're lying.
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>>27960694
Yea but why doesnt clemont sleep in the same tent as bonnie, you know, HIS FUCKING SISTER.
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>>27960709
we change season. twitter full hate. last minute change
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>>27960710
Because it makes more sense to splits tents up by gender.
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>>27960710
Stop being a sexist fucker. Back to >>>/pol/
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>>27960710
>wanting Bonnie to do lewd things with his bro in their sleep
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>>27960714
Aren't episodes made 30 episodes ahead of time? you mean to tell me you fucks had 30 episodes of content that were so shit that you decided to get rid of all of them even though it probably cost thousands upon thousands of dollars to make those 30 episodes? golly no wonder you guys fucking suck at making this anime.
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>>27960733
How is that sexist.
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>>27960714
Thanks TV Tokyo san I will go tell all my Twitter friends :^)
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>>27960752
3 months ahead. They'll probably gonna start SM in two weeks
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>>27960743
>bonnie
>his
what.
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Rumor is fake.
Satoshi will travel to Alola and as Matsumoto Rika has said, will try again. But with surpirises!! Preview of new anime coming very soon, fans will be happy with what is in store.
Hint - Serena still around for a reason.
Original fans have gifts too ;)
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>>27960763
It seems somewhat unlikely to me that XY is lasting for 12 more episodes when the Team Flare arc seems to be lasting for 4 to 5 episodes.

Unless Ash beats Alain becomes the League conference winner defeats the E4 and then challenges Diantha that is :^)
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I'm real tv tkto staff
Satoshi travel in Alola Litten together.
Litten jealous Pikachu fights burning him up running gag often.
Companion is Suiren-chan and normal type captain
Suiren chan story similar to Takeshi
Rocket dan also here, their goal os always same
Lily-chan makes some appearance in the beginning, but she is not main charater.
Female character from games not appear.
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>>27960752
yes. work 20 hours in day. sleep at tv tokyo office.
kojiro new main character. matadogas back for help.
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>>27960786
>Companion is Surien-chan and normal type captain

I actually like Lana more then Mallow so i hope winds up being true.
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>>27960785
Alola bulid up with Decolora like arc.
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>>27960791
Christ just commit suicide already man.
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>>27960785
More like the last episodes are filler hell
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>>27960661
Also no BW Idiocy.
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>>27960812
Honestly at this point they've sort of pissed everyone bar the new people off so yeah, Filler Hell sounds about right.
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>>27960786
Not enough broken English desu.
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>>27960633
That's not what jobbing means.
Neither Serena nor Ash ls t because Elle or Alan needed to be hyped up further,, they lost because the plot won't allow them to proceed.
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>>27960575
Be careful, those rabid amourfags would eat you alive.
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>42 minutes between posts

ded thred
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>>27961330
I thought we posted enough Serena already.
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>>27961379
I wanna shag that slag
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>>27961379
My wife
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>>27961386
Serena is for Ash only.
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>>27961395
But she's a slag
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>>27959202
>ASH IS LITERALLY GRENINJA
>BLUE BUTTERFLIES LITERALLY REPRESENT GRENINJA

DEEP
IN
POTTER
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>>27961330
I wonder how dead /padt/ will become after the end of XY&Z.
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>>27961445
Ash even has the yellow scarf
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That's the same tree she got the ribbon under right?
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>>27961546
You be the judge
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>>27961605
ehh, guess not
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Is dedenne fat?
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>>27961631
Naw he's just thick boned! Chespin is pretty fucking fat though.
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So the Happy Hour Meowth leak reaffirms the Rainbow Greninja reveal, but why the fuck would they introduce it now when everyone hates it?
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>not even a marketing gimmick

for what purpose
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>>27961780
>everyone hate Ash-Greninja
nice meme
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So, if the changed league ending theory is true, and episodes are made a long time in advance, shouldn't there be some inconsistencies showing up in the episodes after the Flare arc? If they had to change their plans suddenly, there should be some pretty rushed episodes coming up after the Flare arc to replace the original ideas.

Could be something worth looking out for.
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>>27961780
>reaffirms the Rainbow Greninja reveal,
no it doesn't
holy shit you fucking retard read this >>27961694
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>>27961780
Tbh, What kind would want that piece of shit in their team when they can DORUGON CLAW LIZARDON X in their team instead.
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>>27961801
Why would there be inconsistencies if you're saying they have a load of time to make these?

>Make ash-greninja with the plan to give Ash the champion end
>in the middle of animating his arcs, they get word Ash has to lose
>do your best to make him look cool and write the team flare arc around it

why do people always think the decisions are last second?
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>>27961801
[Citation needed]
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>>27961846
This.
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>>27961804

Do you understand how leaks work? People get limited information and draw their own conclusions, but the fact is there is a Happy Hour Meowth and something named Gigareki. What the fuck would they confuse for Ash-Greninja?
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I missed the thread where Ash lost. How much did everyone flip out? Can someone link me to the thread?
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>>27961932
things got bad. Real bad.
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This is our last hope.
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>>27961932
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>>27961801
>this much denial
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>>27961973
Jesus.
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>>27961846
If they had the time to fix upcoming episodes, they would have had the time to write a convincing loss. As it stands, it pretty much comes off as if they just replaced a single scene at the very end.
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>>27962013
I suppose I see what you're saying.
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>>27961846
>>27961847
>>27961858
>>27961977
Obvious samefag is obvious.
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>>27961973
Never forget.
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>>27962028
nope
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>>27962038
Christ, I bet even /a/ flipped their shit.
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Reminder that Ash could have brought a full team of Legendaries including Jesus Arceus and the anime writers would still make him lose.
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>>27961395
She may become Clemont's in the Flare arc.
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>>27960633
Wil Elle NTR Alan from Manon then?
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Why is everyone such a Jobber?
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>>27962058
They were slightly preoccupied flipping their shit over Bleach ending.

>>27962028
>only one (You)

Try a little bit harder.
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Misty has and always will be best girl
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>>27962180
>anyone besides serena even coming close to being best girl after this happened

nah
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>>27962180
Misty is not even top 5
She was not even top 5 in season 1
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>>27961780
It confirms nothing because Gigareki is not a Pokemon but some trademarked game from Gamefreak.
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>>27962208
Don't get me wrong Anon-Kun, Ash Serena is pretty cute but i can't help but feel as if that episode replaced the Ashley episode of this generation so my feelings are pretty mixed on whether i prefer Ash Serena or want more Ashley
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>>27962208
problem is that eps like that were fucking rare, so a lot of serena's time is spent with her being rather dull.
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Why are we still here?
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>>27962237
This is why I'm not fond of 3-4 person groups but it's a standard so whatever. Alan's was a nice change.
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>>27962237
Gonna have to disagree. Her character is basically made of fun moments like those, so if you liked that I can't see you disliking all the other moments where the show pokes fun at her. I also really got invested in the performances, and I like the themeing about dreams, especially when its paralleled with Ash's.

But I get it not being for everyone
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>>27962234
>Ashley

What?

>>27962237
I disagree but it's personal taste so there's no point really arguing about it.
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>>27962309
Do you seriously not know or remember when Ash crossdressed in OS and was called Ashley? and how he has crossdressed in Hoenn Sinnoh and Unova since then?
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>>27962342
Oh right sorry, completely blanked on the name.
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>>27962376
It happens to the best of us.
>>
Groups:

Bonnie and Blaziken Man
Clemont and Serena
Shota and ????
Alain is with Lysandre and Ash
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>>27961546
Oh, I missed this ED already.
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>>27962418
Bonnie and Blaziken Man
Clemont and Clembot
Shota and the Three Stooges
Serena and Manon
Ash, Lysandre and Alain.
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>>27962418
>Clemont and Serena

Aren't you already tired of this Slate?
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>>27962449
This seems about right.
>>
Camera always seems to focus on Serena concerned for Ash before she does something for him, like all those Wulfric shots, so she's bound to do something big for Ash after a whole league's worth of shots.
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>>27962449

What about Profesor Syncamore?
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>>27962538
I don't think i recall Sycamore being mentioned or shown in the previews? but if he has a role i would presume he is with Diantha, I am kind of expecting for Diantha and the E4 to show up but get betrayed by Malva and Corrupt Zygarde will fuck them up just for Zygarde to save them all.

Wouldn't shock me if Zygarde gets fucked up and Ash ends up stopping Corrupt instead.
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>>27962479
The anime likes fucking Ash over. So in addition to losing the league, Clemont will get Serena from him. And that'll be part of the reason she stays in Kalos.
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>>27958542
>>>What's the point of watching it anymore?
>>To enjoy the ride.

yeah enjoy the ride until you crash with the ground and die.

Sorry i am still mad.
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>>27962601
it's okay.
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>>27962529
Not necessarily. The camera focusing on her and her going "Satoshi..." Is something that happens in nearly every gym with or major battle. That's just Serena's stichk. It didn't always lead to something.
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>>27962601
It's alright, anon. I will never not be mad. But sometimes we need to set things aside, try to enjoy what good eps come, and just wait patiently for the suit who made this decision to die, and hope that maybe then we will have catharsis.
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>>27962657
I mean when it's consistent. It was ordinarily focusing on her character during that match specifically, and people took notice. It didn't seem to make much sense until we saw the episode after, where it then became more apparent those reaction shots were leading into something. Usually it's about 1 Serena reaction other times, with maybe a few group-shots. Serena literally takes the last frame of part 1 (after cutting to everyone, even ash and alan right before her) and so many others.

It just screams "Serena moment coming up, guys."
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>>27962692
*unordinarily
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>>27959946

>>27959946

Nobita's and Doraemon's seiyuu got replaced thrice afaik.
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>still making threads for the ashnime

SATOSHI DECIME QUE SE SIENTE
HABER PERDIDO LA FINAL
TE JURO QUE AUNQUE PASEN LOS AÑOS
NUNCA LO VAMOS A OLVIDAR

QUE TOBÍAS TE CAGÓ
CAMERON TE VACUNÓ
ESTAS LLORANDO DESDE KANTO APHASTA HOY

A ALAN LO VAS A VER
LA COPA NOS VA A TRAER
TIERNO SE VA A COJER A TU MUJER
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I haven't watched any Pokemon anime since gen 2 and don't remember a lot of specifics but I decided to check up on XY (&Z) recently. On S19E13 now.

Has Ash always been on such a stupid power level where he literally doesn't lose ever? Yeah 20 years of fucking up the league and all that but after that initial loss against Viola it took 2 1/2 seasons for Ash to actually lose a fight, and it's still against the one guy who's apparently going to take the entire league. Not to mention this stoneless mega evolution shit he pulls right out of his ass. It's like the worst Shounen tropes combined in one character, especially when he travels with Serena who actually struggles and overcomes obstacles
>loses multiple showcases
>has emotional breakdowns
>has Pokemon that don't get along initially
>has an Eevee that suffers from severe anxiety issues

Jesus man, even Luffy loses a fight from time to time.
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>>27962723
>Goodra isn't higuain
Step it up papu
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>>27962767
They're basically overcompensating for the fact that BW Ash was completely incompetent.
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>>27962767
He loses a lot afterwards though. He also lost in the first battle against nami and her talonflame with hawlucha.
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>>27962767
The irritating about that is the fanbase were practically defending this pre-Final Battle, and now their opinions have changed for the most part. I wasn't fond of it myself which is why I wasn't disappointed.
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>>27962692
I think you're reading a bit too much into it anon. Serena just worries for Ash during battles. Wulfric was a special case
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>>27962767
>>27962819

He also lost against Wulfric in front of his rival who got the badge before him.
>>
You know, I was thinking about something while looking at speculation and something dawned on me. In regards to Alola, I don't think the exact same thing that is happening in the games is going to happen in the show. Then again, I could question why it's happening in the games, too. The Z crystals are obviously an object of great power. Why in the world would anyone just give out such a powerful object? It can only be used by people who have a strong bond with their pokemon? Fair enough, but the threshold for that with Megas was large enough as it is. This is not a challenge for ordinary people, not by a long shot. Not to mention that gathering all 18 essentially means you command the full power of every element, which would make you something akin to a god. I see something about this being rewritten to suit the anime. How, I can't really say.
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>>27959076
evil ash for tired of being beaten
tobias
>>
Dark Synchro when?
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>>27962767
Ash also had issues with hawlucha and froakie not getting along. Had a small meltdown after his first loss and also struggled with korrinas gym match. Eevee became an annoyance after like 3 episodes. And he worked with Noibat to make him fly for 2 episodes.
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>>27962879
It does it way too much. It makes even less sense when there's more characters for reaction shots, and Serena takes up almost all of the exclusive reactions for the league. Even when someone like Shauna got a reaction shot during the semifinals, Tierno butts into the frame himself. And you have to admit the previous example I said isn't for nothing. It makes no sense. Why is the order of reactions Shauna and co., Clemont and co., Malva, Team Rocket, Alan, Ash and THEN Serena, with her own dialogue? She certainly didn't do anything of significance in part 2, besides react even more. It's because she's likely going to try and save Ash in the team flare arc.
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>>27962944
When Lysandre attempts pic related Greninja
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>>27962971
I'm not just a purely "cute" Candy Girl
When the hero is in trouble,
I'll courageously swoop in to help

-

Oh, Oh, I want to
Oh, Oh, Protect you!
I embrace both your strengths and weaknesses
In their entirety

Oh, Oh, Hey, show me
Oh, Oh, Every last bit of your love
If you and I were to be together...
Hey, we'd be unbeatable, right?
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>>27962961
>Ash also had issues with hawlucha and froakie not getting along.
>And he worked with Noibat to make him fly for 2 episodes.

Yeah but he solved it the blandest way possible unlike Serena who ran away crying and borderline guilt tripped her Pokemon into getting along.

also
>Eevee became an annoyance after like 3 episodes.

I WILL FIGHT YOU IRL
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>>27963042
WHY
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>>27963042
Maybe we will get to this but for now you will have to wait symbolically crucified at top of prism tower.
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>>27963042
Alain here, I give the victory to Satoshi, he deserve it more than I do.
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>>27963056
Team Flare doesn't mess around. Is this the only time anyone has fully incapacitated Pikachu? TR would be jealous. Where is Greninja?
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>>27962774
Goodra is Aguero.
>has a great regular season, then for some reason misses the latter part of it and the first part of the big tournament
>returns and is hyped as the second best in the team after Messi/Greninja
>chokes and does shit at all

Noivern is more like Higuain
>has the lousiest stats of all the "big guys" in the team, just a few meme victories after the big tournament
>people expect him to do something important for the first time, chokes horribly
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>>27963081
Nah, nvm. I think Pika's been wrapped in rubber or something.
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>>27963056
We shall see how brave you are when nailed to Lumiose Tower, your body facing west so you may watch your world die.
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>>27963070
Nice try Ash, you ain't fooling anyone. You lost the same way as the first battle against Zard.
BURASTU BAAN
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>>27963113
Sorry, *before the big tournament.
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>>27962971
Didn't you see the League the writers like to fuck Ash over. And Serena doesn't even seem to be around to see Ash get captured. She'll probably be with Clemont and might even develop feelings for him during the Flare arc because Ash can't have nice things.
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>>27963056
I have no idea why the hell is this even a valid plotpoint.
I mean, seriously what the fuck is even going on.
Why Lysandre is so adamant on nailing him to tower.
Even after his lapdog proved he can grind through Ash's team with his ace.
Is bond shit strong enough to threaten TF plans?
If yes, how much more fucking triggers need to happen since Snowbelle forest was not enough?
Is GreninjAsh up to be gone in some cataclysmic even?
WHAT
THE
FUCK
WHY
THE
FUCK
WHAT HAPPENED AT LEAGUE, WHY HE LOST?
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>>27963187
(you)
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Very nice, Greninja! that's a threatening looking shuriken indeed!

HOWEVER
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アランがすごい!
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>>27963206
>WHY HE LOST?
Because of the status quo
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>>27963206
>WHY HE LOST
Because they need happyend and closure for Alan.
He wins the league, Chespin is saved, Manon with him.
Ash missed his chance back in Kanto, now he's doomed.
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>>27963224
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>>27963056
Incredibles
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I have a question about the anime:

I pretty much stopped watching at AG exactly when Veronica Taylor stopped voicing Ash but I've started trying to get over it and continue watching regardless. One thing I've gleaned from watching a few episodes of X/Y is that the later episodes don't seem to have that 'nature' vibe the original series had. Is this the case or have I just been watching the wrong episodes?

If you don't know what I mean, in the original series there are episodes which focus heavily on the theme of cooperation between people, Pokemon and nature. There's kind of a vibe that nature and people should work in harmony and there's often scenes and montages where you just watch Pokemon in the Pokemon world doing things set to music; it's supposed to create a feeling of awe of the Pokemon world in the viewer. Kind of with a peaceful, ethereal vibe.

Has this completely gone now or did I just watch the wrong episodes? I know it wasn't always like this in the original series so I could just be missing them.
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>>27963240
I wonder, if anime had ended in Kanto as planned, would SatoKasu became canon or not?
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>>27963206
They took Ash, so Serena can be with Clemont and potentially have them fall in love.
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>>27963232
>>27963240
This is not happy end, nor normal status quo.
Alain figths for literally Hitler, mega energy seems to be utilised in initial strike, Lysandre does something cruel and painful to Ash, probably on Alain's eyes, then goes full Legion, WHAT IS EVEN GOING ON?
THE FUCK IS THIN RED LINE DOING IN KIDS SHOW?
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>>27962723
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>>27963331
It's still there although I can't attest to the quantity compared to earlier seasons.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/XY069
Here for example groups of wild Pokemon fight over who gets to stay at a healing spring.
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>>27963380
>WHAT IS EVEN GOING ON?
Pokemon attempt at the story.
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>>27963380
Lysandre is doing and will do nothing wrong. There is nothing wrong with using the environment to create a paradise for your people.
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>>27963287
どうして? 彼は買った。サトシは勝ちませんでした。
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What is your favorite XY anime cry?
AAAAAAA, NENENE, MESSI, PIKAPIKA, LUCHAA, OOON, EIVUI, YANCHA YANCHA, RIMA RIMA
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Plot? in my Pokémon anime?
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>>27963516
kachi kachi
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>>27963413
>Olympic soccer
>Benuldies
>7-1 is still a thing
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>>27963516
>RIMA RIMA

Go fucking kill yourself for even suggesting that anyone could like that annoying garbage.
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>>27963516
YOOOOOOOOOO
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>>27963413
>giving a shit about olympic gold in divegrass
The only relevant tournament at international football is the World Cup. Euros, Copa Memerica and the Confederations are memes.

Also, this pic could be a great thing for /sp/. We should do a template for any sports team.
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>>27963516
CHACHACHA
I miss pumkaboo.
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>>27963206
He lost for our sins, clearly.
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>>27963516
TEERUNA~

Muh dick explodes every time I hear that.
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So can someone just confirm for me. Is Alain using a load of Pokemon that aren't actually his and were given to him by Team Flare? Because surely that's ground for disqualification.
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>>27962577
We know Serena is with Manon tho.

I hope she finally uses Flabebe
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>>27962774
Punished Satoshi.

A boy deprived of leagues.
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>>27963683
I don't think we ever spotted a belt on him in the mega evolution episodes, so we really don't know if he's had anything other than metagross
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>>27963516
MESSI MESSI MESSI
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>>27963715
>yfw ash cloning happens
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>>27963413
>Brazilians seriously think we cared about the Olympic golds
>they actually made Neymar play with their team
>we sent the Bender twins
>Draxler stayed at home even though he's under 23
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>>27963516
WHY DIDN'T ASH WIN THE LEAGUE REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>27963683
You're really desperate
>oh Alan cheated his badges are given by Malva
>anime proves it's wrong
>oh alan cheated bracelet is pumped by energy
>adamant says there is completely no hints for that
>oh it's not his pokemon
Yeah. And Shota's kek king too.
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>>27963707
We don't know when the Manon and Serena scene takes place or what Serena is doing
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>>27963854
Or how about i've heard a few people say this and i just wanted to know if they had been any actually evidence to back it up?
But please continue to be an absolutely rude cunt. You seem like such a nice person.
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>>27963896
There is no hints that it is Flare's pokemon.
And I don't think borrowing mons is dq requirement.
In Kanto Misty offered her pokemon to Ash for the first round but he refused.
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>>27963625
>>27963782
>trigered Germans being this mad.
No need to get u jimmies on defensive, nazibros.
Get a better goalkeeper instead.
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>>27963887
but she is with Manon
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>>27963854
The only one of those I could buy is that Weavile, Bisharp, Unfeazant and Tyranitar were given to him by Lysandre while Metagross was a gift from Steven since 99% of time we've seen him use nothing but Xard
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>>27963056
Leaker anon here. I just saw this episode and I gotta say it's starting to look like Flare arc will belong to Alain as the episodes gives him a lot of focus besides the initial fall out. As for why they take ash in the first place it's solely because the scientists are vindictive about terminus cave. it may be early but I'm pretty sure Alain will be the one to defeat lysandre and Ash will just be support.

I'm pretty disappointed.
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>>27962573
He's in the VA list
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>>27963683
Alan won using an improvised Team of Pokemon except for Charizard. That shows you that Ash Kalos Team is utter garbage
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>>27964082
It's pretty obvious they catch Ash because they want to know how A-Greninja works
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>>27964082
Is this the new ebin maymay?
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>>27964192
>because they want to know how A-Greninja works
no, it's literally because he was a pest in terminus cave. Ash Greninja has nothing to do with it. If you're hoping for some post league redemption it doesn't look like it's happening. Alain's looking to be the major player for this arc. but I've only seen this weeks episode so I guess there's nothing wrong with holding out hope.
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>>27958690
Because Ash is like a "hero" of kalos because of Garchomp events and maybe Lysson thinks Ash is a better trainer than Alan.
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>>27964265
So explain what the point of the prophecy shit was mister leaker
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If anything makes me feel better about the league its the fact that everyone else is as pissed off as I am.

I'm over the loss and excited for the rest of the series, but this image makes me pretty happy.
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>>27964190
No, it shows us that Ash beat an improvised team and had to face an overpowered Charizard
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>>27964265
If it helps your argument, the Flare girl is the same one Ash faced but not Alan so he might get confused and then give him focus.
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>>27964328
55k
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>>27964358
>Ash barely beat an improvised team
I wonder how much deeper we can get into fucking ruining Ash's entire arc of getting supposedly stronger
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>>27964082
>>27964265
I have no reason not to believe you now. Either way, even if the scientist capture Ash as payback, it seems pretty obvious Lysandre himself has further plans for him in mind.
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>literally the most cucked character ever

How will he ever recover after this?
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>>27964311
Ash is literally at the center of the catastrophe, that's where he's hung. I've only seen this episode so all I can confirm is why he's captured. Alan seems hesitant but goes along with it because muh manon, but it's pretty obvious what's going to happen

>alain get's talk no jutsu from manon or ash
>frees Ash
>gang frees puni chan and Z2
>Ash and friends deal with the roots while Alain confronts lysandre
>happy ending
Don't quote me on it yet because as I said I've only seen this weeks episode and this weeks episode is team flare winning, the group is separated, and it ends on a cliffhanger.
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>>27964265
>no, it's literally because he was a pest in terminus cave.
Lysandre doesn't know Ash & co. were the ones interferring at T. Cave. It's because of Ash's Synchro summoning with Greninja
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>>27964457
If you're going to post fake leaks, maybe you should other looking up what we know about the episodes already?
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>>27964426
>I have no reason not to believe you now.
you don't have to, The reason i don't wear a trip is because I like when people like you swear up and down that I'm wrong and then have to watch me be right. it's what made the shitty league so cathartic.

>>27964475
>Lysandre doesn't know Ash & co. were the ones interferring at T. Cave.
he knows Ash is a pest. Listen senpai I don't write the show I just watch the eps
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>>27964532
So who exactly are you that you watch them ahead of time then?
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>>27964578
If you don't believe his leaks why would you believe who he is?
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>>27964532
Not sure if you read my post correctly, but I said I believe you. I didn't for the league finals because it seemed strange (and still is) that someone who's evidently an English speaker would suddenly pop up and leak episodes in advance after it never happening (even pK only ever leaks episode previews), but I can't deny the evidence.

>>27964475
>Lysandre doesn't know Ash & co. were the ones interferring at T. Cave
Didn't Xerosic review footage of Puni-chan transforming into 10% form at the end of XY&Z9? It's not a stretch to think Lysandre would know about Ash's interference since then, especially considering the scientist would've reported it to him.
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>>27964611
I'm not the guy who said he doesn't believe them though
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>>27964578
see >>27964611 it's a pretty valid point. besides you can probably guess what allows me to watch the episode one weak in advance
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>>27963516
KOOOOOGAAAAA
and the clawitzer cry i dont even know how to spell
NAANNANANANANANANANANA

>MESSI
Thats breelom right?
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>>27964666
>Thats breelom right?
It's Melecie
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>>27964666
Carbink's Japanese cry
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>>27964008
Could easily be after she was Clemont and potentially fell for him.
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>>27964765
its also quite possible that you fall for my dick
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>>27964082
What does Shota,Clemont,Serena and Bonnie do?
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>I've seen episodes ahead of time and I'll explain a few things but not everything. And like everyone who claims to have seen future episodes of anything ever I'll not explain how I've seen them and I will say that you don't have to believe me, but I gotta make sure you are aware that I'm saying I've seen episodes in advance and set a few things straight so that you guys don't speculate too wildly about the next few episodes

It's always the same fucking thing with these "my dad works at tv tokyo" or "I get to view prescreenings of this show" or "my cousing does voices for this show" people.
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>>27964775
Ash is taken away from Serena because the writers want to add insult to injury and have Clemont potentially cuck him. The writers hate Ash.
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>>27964883
He was right about the finals though. Greninja got downed with a Blast Burn for no adequate reason like he had said.
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New bred:
>>27964927
>>27964927
>>27964927
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>>27964934
cmon, fall for my dick
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>>27964936
>he
>implying that was even the same guy
>giving some muh leaks attention whore the attention he wants
Just leave
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>>27964936
If Ash was gonna lose, that's how it was gonna end. I could've told you that.
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>>27964265
Fag
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>>27964657
The fact you're full of shit?
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Amour is canon.
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I think everyone seeking redemption isn't going to get it. Being defeated by Ash wasn't going to "fix" him in the League, it was only going to break his spirit. He needed to see that TF was evil all along. This arc is his redemption. This is his comeuppance. If you're just sore over Ash's loss, then...really? If you've been around long enough, you've long since stopped caring. Otherwise, I've got nothing for you. I can offer no explanation of any form. The only comfort I can give you is the above, that Alain didn't deserve it, and from what I hear, didn't even want it. He only gets crushed by discovering what TF was really up to. This is the beginning of his downfall. A victory that ultimately means nothing. This, to me, is worse than defeating him in a battle. You want vengeance? This arc is your vengeance. Alain is broken. Ash gets to win by defeating the one truly responsible.

Glory is fleeting. Honor is forever.
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