Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

POKÉMON MOVIE SPECIAL SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_Movie_19_Premiere_Commemoration_Special[H264_720P][212D0552].mkv.torrent

XY&Z17 POKETV SEGMENT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_017_Thunder_and_Onvern!_A_Furious_Strike_of_Lightning!!_PokeTV_segment[H264_720P][08A85A9A].mkv.torrent

XY&Z36 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_036_Fierce_Fighting_at_the_Kalos_League!_Gather,_All_of_My_Passion!![H264_720P][53FB69AD].mkv.torrent

XY&Z37 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=839243

XY&Z38 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=841536

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z39: THE FLARE GANG ATTACKS! THE ZYGARDE AT THE PRISM TOWER!! (AUGUST 25TH)
>A Zygarde and lots of enormous plants suddenly appear. And as Satoshi, Pikachu and Alan attempt to get to the bottom of this mystery, the Flare Gang appear before them! And incredibly enough, their target is Satoshi...!

>Summary:
>Miare City is thrown into a huge panic when mysterious enormous plants attack. Satoshi, Pikachu and Alan head for the Prism Tower to find out the cause behind all this. But then the Flare Gang appear before them. Meanwhile, Fleur-de-lis starts telling the entire world about his ambitions...!

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Mayuki Makiguchi: Serena
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mariya Ise: Eureka
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Kensho Ono: Alan
>Mikako Komatsu: Manon
>Hiroshi Tsuchida: Platane
>Hideaki Tezuka: Fleur-de-lis
>Tsuguo Mogami: Xerosicy
>Fumiko Orikasa: Carne
>Anri Katsu: Tierno
>Minami Fujii: Trova
>Yurie Kobori: Sana
>Akeno Watanabe: Pachira
>Masako Katsuki: Gojika
>Chiemi Ishimatsu: Junsa
>Karin Nanami: Correa
>Rinko Natsuhi: Akebi
>Akane Fujita: Bara
>Kensuke Sato: Lizardon
>Kenta Miyake: Onvern
>Kiyotaka Furushima: Fiarrow
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration

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First for Ash getting BTFO

UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 46 (Aug 21st)

XY&Z40: The Shocking Zygarde VS Zygarde! The Breaking World!! (Sep 1st)
>Clemont and the others decide to split into several groups in order to stop Team Flare's plans. Bonnie follows Squishy as it confronts Z2, which has transformed into its 50% Forme. But then the evil clutches of Team Flare strike! And just like Z2, Squishy also ended up getting controlled by Team Flare.

XY&Z41: Attack on Lumiose Gym! The Citroid Forever!! (Sep 8th)
>As he attempts to retake the Lumiose Gym, Clemont challenges Team Flare scientist Xerosic to a battle, staking their pride as scientists.

XY&Z -MOVIE VER.- (SATOSHI)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6d63pkrvpvcqry3/XY%26Z_MOVIE_VER_%28Both_Sizes%29.zip

THE PIKACHU SONG (PIKACHU)
http://www.megafileupload.com/7hw9/The_Pikachu_Song.m4a

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA SOUNDTRACK
http://www.filedrop
per.com/movie19soundtrack

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA
CHAPTER 1: http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8
CHAPTER 2: http://imgur.com/a/cGC71
CHAPTER 3: http://imgur.com/a/l6bs1

Why do people put that serena bit in these? Makes no fucking sense.

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WHY DID YOU GUYS GET ANIKI CAPTURED? FREE SATOSHI! FREE ANIKI!!

>>27895462
You must be new to these. There are about a billion Serenashipper who won't stop bitching if not

>>27895462
Ash never had feelings for Serena and it's gonna stay one-sided.

Any prediction as to when will league newfags GTFO this general?
We can't have any discussion with these cancerous faggots around.

Ash will win Island Challenge Tournament, right? It's not a League, so no reason to lose, right?

>>27895550
Seems a good deal of them have already left. Things are going to calm down.

>>27895567
He will help alola create it's own pokemon league. And then he will lose that.

>>27895505
I prefer chicken-san with Lillie.

>>27895550
hopefully soon. Serenafags will join them in the trash.

OP change poll
http://www.strawpoll.me/11022665

Is the XY series worth watching? It's on netflix.

Im never watching this show again

>>27895550
We can't discussion with cancerous amourshitters around either.

>>27895632
Most of the Amourfags seem to have run away. You can change it to 'don't get your hopes up" or just "no"

>>27895643
>netflix

The only thing worse than XY is the XY dub.

>>27895643
No not anymore

>>27895643

No what's the point he loses why bother watching anymore

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>>27895643
I mean, as disappointing as the ;league was, yeah, it's still worth watching, for the most part, and I'm probably still going to try catching up for the Team Flare arc.

>>27895674
Which series should I watch right now then?

Anyone here has watched the episode more than 1?

>>27895410
>>Will Serena win da Ash?
>It sure looks that way.

This line is neither funny nor true.

DON'T WORRY, I HAVE ALERTED THE MODERATORS

>>>/qa/633973

ALSO, I AM IN CONTACT WITH A MODERATOR ON /w/, THIS MESS IS GOING TO BE CLEANED UP SHORTLY

>>27895670
well the current OP is one of those nine it seems

>>27895632
>voting on things like this when the threads are full of shitposters
Haha no
And I see those two top options jumped from 11-to-8 to 24-to-9 since last time I looked.

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>>27895579
Calm down? 20 years! All I even cared about was him winning the league. At least baby steps, hajime no ippo and kuroko no basuke made sense and was worth going back to. This is not one of them. Speed it up already..
>pic extremely related.

Message of this anime - you will NEVER achieve something you want, no matter how hard are you trying, and not giving up.
Not just Ash will suffer. His companions, rivals(Paul, Shota) are bound to never win anything.

>>27895701
Pokemon DP. Thtat season is still the peak of the Pokemon Anime

This is all that Rotom's fault, they changed the future where Ash is Champion for helping that hotel

>>27895709
Oh, are you back again?

I get that some of you are still salty but at least Ash managed to make it to the finals.

Who /feeble hope that Lysandre interfered and there will be a rematch/ here?

>>27895730
t. butthurt pearlfag

>>27895716
yeah because all 41 of those voters are shitposters

When the hell are these league faggots going to leave? All they've been doing is "waaah Ash lost I'm never watching the show again" and "Ash should have won muh nostalgia oh wait GENWUNNERS SUCK"

These cunts aren't mad that Ash lost.

They're being mean FOR THE SAKE OF BEING MEAN. THEY DON'T EVEN CARE THAT ASH LOST.

The real people who care that Ash lost are taking it in stride and watching /vp/ burn to the ground as the Pokemon GO millennials are trashing the board.

>>27895719
Alan is a rival and literally just won

>>27895514

This is legit?

post link pls

>>27895761

Stay mad ash losing is bullshit and you know it

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why is everyone so mad? ash made it further than he ever has before.

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>>27895618
>Promoting degeneracy

Is Clemont winning Serena in the Flare arc the next thing?

>>27895767
>Alan is a rival
As much as Tobias. Also, didn't get Manon's smile and it's his goal.

>>27895761
>These cunts aren't mad that Ash lost.
Clearly they are

>>27895761
The real people who care about ash aren't bitching like childern and patiently waiting for the next episode.

>>27895794

Except that it's not stergmeister. The creator of Pokemon himself said that Ash is not winning until the series comes to an end. We all knew the series wasn't coming to an end, SO WHY DID FAGGOTS PROMOTE NONSTOP THAT ASH WAS GOING TO WIN?

Because drama.

Because (You)s.

Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, who said Ash was going to lose was degraded and called a troll.

WHO'S LAUGHING NOW

There is a rumor that ash actually likes the new girl next region going on twitter. If true this would redeem interest.

>>27895839
you sound bitter big fella, what's your frustration?

>>27895814
Sure looks that way :^)

>>27895839

Getting mad online?

Does anyone care anymore?

>>27895839
Winning the League does not make you a Pokemon Master or even a regional Champion. Why is the regular league the roadblock?

>>27895839

>said that Ash is not winning until the series comes to an end

he's dead who cares what he tthinks

If there is anything I feel bad for its Pikachu.

There is no way he could ever have a better performance again. He gave it his EVERYTHING, even beat two fuck Psuedos and kicked Charizard around. He should have recalled it for a rest after weakening Charizard and save it for last. Pikachu will forever be Ash's true ace and if he was smart he would realize this and save it for last. Pikachu is the hardest worker and best fighter. Starters can suck a dick.

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>>27895807

>>27895859

I'm bitter that you faggots have been spamming /vp/ for the past 12 hours with your nonstop autism.

Hi, that fagoola again

Just done watching the episode

What the fuck!?

As much as i knew he wasn't gonna win, I'm still salty the way they handled the battle, I would have preferred that Ash would have collapsed during the battle because of Greninjash taking too much damage or something like that

>>27895884

No what's he point ash just lost even though everything was pointing to his win even the episode title was misleading

>>27895839
>The creator of Pokemon himself said that Ash is not winning until the series comes to an end
Leave. You're clearly an unacknowledged newfriend, stop embarassing everybody.

>>27895857
You can watch other anime if you like romance so much. Pokemon ain't the right fit for you.

Post yfw Lysandre poisoned Greninja before the fight so Alain would win.

The only characters allowed to win are the ones that look 15+ years-old

>>27895907
tell us how you really feel

>>27895778
It's "legit", but it's some social media-organized effort to downvote it and I'm fairly sure it's organized by the west and not the nips. There's been several "go here and downvote this" threads on /vp/ today.

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Guys, did anyone else notice that the league trophy is literally a Xerneas?

>>27895905
I feel so bad for rattu. He gave it his all and all his kohais had to do was not fuck up

>>27895753
At the very least, if even that, Kalos might call foul and demand a second league free from Flare's bullshit. Probably won't happen.
More plausible would be Ash battling Alan at some point during Flare Arc and it being broadcasted and he wins and gets the title of champion, or Alan being forced to give it up for being related to terrorists.
If anything, he'll probably get crowned as Kalos' Savior and it will be broadcasted all over the region, maybe the world, but it won't matter because he didn't fucking win the league.

>>27895899
Because it will be troubling to explain why one of the strongest Trainer of Kalos jobs to newborn Rowlet.

>>27895907
To be fair. Amourfags have been spamming the board with their nonstop autism for three years. Why not bitch about them too.

>>27895884
I'm just here waitinf for the Alola Anime. And to see th denial

Shipping isnt dead


...r-right guys?

I wonder how bad next weeks ratings will end up

>>27895957
He already is one of the strongest trainers in the world though at this point. Winning or losing that match wouldn't change that at all.

>>27895944
Mate, the nip thread reached 10x the size of any other pokemon thread on 2ch I've ever seen. Not to mention the ending was trending on jap twitter with people pissed off.
If you think the japs didn't hate this shit, you're some delusional pedo spic.

>>27895957
Ash using brand new Pokemon can be the excuse.

>>27895923


But it's true.

>>27895839
This is some weird Frankenstein of multiple half-truths. Bizarre.

What "the creator of Pokemon" are you even thinking said this?

>>27895706
It's true for the moment.

I'm pretty confident the OP is made by the same autist 75% of the time

Man this hurts. At least i have canon ichihime and rejiruki kids to cheer me up

>Alain admitting that his Zard was manipulated or something with the Team Flare leader in spics subs

OH BOI

>>27895974

You retards do realize that Japan doesn't care about a bunch of English neckbeards watching their anime...right?

THE SHOW IS MADE FOR LITTLE KIDS TO ADVERTISE THE GAMES. THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT RATINGS.

>>27895971
Amour might die in the Flare arc if they have Clemont win Serena.

>>27895857
"some nobody made some shit up" isn't a rumor ,stale.

>>27895957
They're going to have trouble explaining why the kalos league runner up is getting dicked by a yungoos. He's in the top 6 of trainers in the kalos region.
I don't get this fucking argument.

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Literally anyone of Ash other Pokemon could have took Goodra's place. Fucking idiot this monkey could have at least take 2 Pokemon out

>>27896017
It is. There are barely any amourfags, but the few that exist are dedicated.

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>>27895807
But it still perpetuates the "Le Ash is a loser, SWITCH PROTAGS NAO" meme. And I hate doing that "something is a meme" thing, but it's super fucking annoying, and it's something that's always going to fucking perpetuate until he wins.
Ash gets no fucking respect, but as we were heading up to this conclusion, it was actually looking like he'd get some recognition. Even if I ignore how mad I am that he lost, there's also the poor condition in how he lost, and how shit like this and shit like DP showcase that there really, truly, is no point in getting hyped up about Leagues, and that they might as well be considered filler, to call to an extreme. I mean, in retrocspect, the fact that they didn't bring up past friends, Ash's mom, or even the professor should've told me that he was going to fucking lose, but still.
Ash lost because he somehow got out underdog'd.

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>Lysandre activates his plan to wipe out all life that goes against him
>During the chaos caused by Zygarde, Alain and Ash get seperated
>Alain encounters Lysandre first, but loses
>Lysandre has Zygarde now under his full control
>Ash battles him and beats his whole team along wirh Zygarde
>Kalos and the world saved
>Everyone thinks Alain is the one who saved the day
>Serena falls in love with Alain
>Ash and Serena childhood subplot goes nowhere
>Ash calls his mom to tell her he wont be coming home as he didnt honor his promise to come home after beating the League
>Instead of his mom picking up the phone, its Gary in a bath robe, revealing lumberjack chest hair
>Calls Ash a loser and says he'll be riding his Mom like a Gogoat
>Ash heads to Alola after getting cucked by childhood friend, by rival who beat him and took all the glory from Ash saving the world
>Ash gets his 8th gym badge and realizes that Alola dosent have a pokemon league
>Ash lost his last chance to ever win a pokemon league to a guy who didnt even care if he won

Why stop with Ash losing his 6th league in a row, just go all the way at this point and cuck him so hard he never comes back to Kalos.

Then we can move on to the next region and hopefully forget that this event ever happened.

>>27896024
P O S T P R O O F F A G E T

>>27896021
Or rakutoge if like nisekoi

>>27895808
Come on, it's good.

I think now with this over there is at least a 75 to 86% chance serena will go with ash

>>27896013
[citation needed]

Remember how promising the XY anime looked back in 2013? Remember how competent and cool Ash looked? Remember when you started to think "maybe this is his time"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waxkb2HEpWE

Reminder that it was either the League or Serena

>>27896017

It is. The OP is that one guy who likes Bunnelby so much and literally has an autistic fit when anyone called it -_- bunny or hates it.

Just try it. Say anything about that stupid bunny and you'll get ten replies telling you to leave.

>>27896025
Look you shitposting fagblaster, do you think a kid is gonna buy an Ash-Greninja plush after that debacle?

They're fucking up in every possible way.

>>27896038

But all signs point to it.

>>27895991
That's not what I said, anon. but saying "lel the japs are downvoting this video" when there are threads on this very board saying "go here and downvote this" is a bit dumb. It's a social media thing.

>>27895545
Fuck you.

>>27895778
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkDBCBiFsMs

>>27896075
>this delusion

>>27895983
Without title he is just lucky loser.
With title of league winner he is super strong
Super strong can lose only to e4, not captains or trainers.

>>27896062
>Source: My ass

Does anyone have a clear picture of blunichan on its red 50% form?

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>>27896079
silly rabbit productivity is for Chespin

>>27895957
So it's easier to explain why the second strongest Trainer, not only of Kalos but from plenty of other leagues as well, jobs to newborn Rowlet?

>>27896098
Acting like it's some western conspiracy is retarded when fucking no one posts on this shithole of a board.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdOvMlbd9L8

watch from 11:15. You can literally see his heart break.

>>27896079
>is that one guy who likes Bunnelby
huh?

>>27896074
He's still competent and XY is still good. He just got bullshitted by writers, that's all.

>>27895946
Who cares

I didn't watch XY at all, but Alain seems great, what are the essential episodes I have to watch to see his saga? aside the 4 Mega Evolution Special episodes.

>>27896135
>some faggot yotuber
You need to leave.

Im pretty sure alain will end up being disqualified one way or another and the league fans ironically, will miss ash winning only because of this episode

>>27896154

Everyone who isn't buttmad about Ash losing faggot. If you don't care about the anime anymore, LEAVE THE THREAD AND STOP TRASHING IT WITH YOUR BUTTHURT.

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>>27896024
Will they ever entiendo?

>>27895822
Ash literally didn't meet Tobias until they battled.
Alan is more comparable to Harrison if anything.

>>27895663
Fuck you.

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Well this day was better than i expected

>>27896079
What?

>>27896074
I didn't think any of that shit, I just thought he looked more mature for once. It was recently when everyone was hyping the episode titles I got a little excited.

>>27896129
Yes. Second is like first loser, who don't even have a trophy and got to finals because memedrog sweeping.

>>27896185
t. Cancerous amourshitter

>>27896184
True but Ash and CO heard about him beating all Gym leaders with just Darkrai in the first league episode

>>27896185
here's one of them

I think I am literally depressed over Ash losing the league. Like real depression. Holy shit what did this show do to me?

WHERE IS THE GUY PETER THAT WAS SPAMMING THAT ASH WAS GOING TO LOSE FOR THE LAST TWO MONTHS?

YOU SHOULD BE HERE GLOATING AND POSTING COLLAGES

THEY SAID WE WERE DUMB AND SAID WE WERE SHITPOSTERS. BUT WE WERE RIGHT BECAUSE WE ARE SMART.

LETS BTFO OUT THESE LOSERS EVEN MORE!

>>27896170
This. I think this will definetly happen too. It just wouldnt make sense if he actually lost

>>27896074
I never thought he would win the league untile last week. XYZ is hit tho i will never rewatch an episode ever again

>People expected Satoshi to win without his own Lizardon making an appearance, not having Oak and Delia appear and "Mezase Pokemon Master" not blasting out of the speakers.

you did this to yourselves.

I just hate that the writers did all those hints and teases of Ash winning both in the anime and in the advertisements/promotions. I'm never trusting them again

>>27896170
That would be great.
I can already see the hypocrisy steaming as they would defend that as a legit league victory while still talking shit about Ash's Kanto badges.

>>27896234

EXACTLY, IT HAS BEEN STATED TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT ASH COULD __NOT__ WIN

YET FAGGOTS KEPT OVERREACTING AND LAUGHING AT PEOPLE WHO SAID ASH WOULDN'T WIN

WHO'S LAUGHING NOW

>>27896074
I miss 2014

Back then we only had to worry about Korrinafags

>>27895839
The writers didn't make ash win because they wanted to honor that guys memory.
How does this make you feel?

>>27896287
>>27896234
nice one Peter

>>27896074
Back in 2013 we were coming off of BW, back then I didn't think XY would be any better.

>>27896170
>>27896237
Sorry, but Alan's win was totally fair. He deserves his title.

Is it true someone killed himself in Japland over this.

>>27896237

What I don't understand is what the HELL was that Red Shuriken? WHAT WAS IT?

Was it something Fluer de Lis modified onto Gekkouga? WHY. WAS. IT. RED?

WHY?!

>>27896248
>>27896283

>>27896170

>>27896230
It's a feeling of deep-seated betrayal.

>>27895735
Underrated post.

>>27896179
No.

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IKEE LIZARDONN
BURASTOO BANNN

>>27895946
Yea pretty cool detail.

>>27896306
Except he is part of team flare

>>27896321

Except that it's not. Anyone with half of a brain knew that Ash wasn't winning.

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At least e'll probably end of getting pic related, right?

>>27896098
There are less than 1000 people in the whole board.

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>>27896170
But that doesn't invalidate Alan's victory on Ash. Nothing can undo the damage now, if a victory had it happen it's in that stadium not by disqualifying people.

It looks like this is the end of traditional Pokemon leagues, in Alola and onward it might never be the same.

>>27896230
You were an overly dramatic faggot before. Nothing changed.

>>27896170
Alan won fair and square. Ash wosuln't accept the trophy

>>27896148
I wouldn't even say it was the writers, but the execs and suits that don't want him to win, cause any change to the status quo may hurt the 'brand'. You notice how quickly the writers try to overshadow Alan's victory with the Team Flare attack? In any other season, this would've been the second to last episode of the season, but we've still got the Team Flare arc that's been building up for the whole of XY&Z.

>>27895946
This is the trophy for the X timeline. Ash wins in the Y timeline.
R..right?

>>27896348
E4 woman too, so what?

>>27896358
>>27896348

>>27896351
>Ash vs pawn of evil team

Just stop.

>>27896025
I think the kids and Japanese fans are mad too.
I dont know if they can ignore this.

>>27896356
who the fuck cares. Z will apear and will fuck over Ash again in Live TV

>>27896304
As a whole XY was better than BW

But it still hurts even though it properly set up that Alan's Charizard is good enough to win the league if it can put up a fight against the E4, and that the point of the tournament is helping out his redemption

Alan didn't need to win to become less edgy

>>27896308
Salty knee-jerk rumors

>>27896098
Yeah, and it was the West that initiated the Magnamite Coil for Black 2 and White 2.

>>27896338
I'm glad nobody will think Z-dances look dumb in the anime when we already have poses like this.

>>27896042
Still one of my favorite ashmon.

>>27896374
They're both bad, you fuckwit. That's what. Do you not understand how anime works?

>>27896382
>lalalala I don't wanna hear the truth
Calm down autismo

>>27896348
It is known he will turn his back on them though, so even in the unlikely event he's disqualified for that, Ash will simply refuse the trophy and give it back to Alain

>>27896358
It'll be revealed that Alan's pokemon where doping or Charizard's mega-necklace was filled with performance enhancing tech
Alan is russia

>>27896351
Yes, because Greninja losing to Mega Charizard 3 times in a row, after all that development and perfecting its form, plus Alan destroying everyone else in the league with Charizard, made sense?

The moment we found out Greninja Vs. Charizard was the final battle it seemed likely Ash would win. Having Ash lose THREE times to the same exact pokemon?

Satoshi's Ultimate Match...huh.

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>>27896385

Why the hell CAN'T TV Tokyo ignore this? I wouldn't be surprised if every last XY&Z episode has already been fully animated and ready to air. They're not going to redraw episodes because waaah some murrican neckbeards didn't like Ash losing for the 6th time.

>>27896425
>Cannot understand basic storytelling
>Calls others autistic

>>27896444
Certainly, they won't care about our opinions of the anime. They might listen to the nip backlash though.

>>27896439
>Just means that Ash literally needs his own 'Zard back.

>>27896444
In any case it could affect Sun/Moon after the first 20ish episode or so. Whatever the backlash is now could affect the next saga after its opening episodes.

Let's say 20 episodes of Sun/Moon are already scripted, so this current backlash could affect episode 30+ or whatever.

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In the bright at least we won't ever see this ugly piece of shit again after Kalos

>>27896365
Nothing of that ending looks fair, nothing fair explains how he tanked the shuriken.

What reason are you most pissed?

A. More mad HOW he lost
B. Mad he lost in general

>>27896444
Mate, the nips are showing just as much butthurt as we are. Even the animators are sad.
Disgusting spics trying to defend this shitshow of an episode. Just end yourself.

>>27896423
Alan will become good with power of Manon's love.
If you think pity win is happening you're. At worst there will be no winner.

>>27896444
>I wouldn't be surprised if every last XY&Z episode has already been fully animated and ready to air
We know they are. Mariya Ise confirmed episodes are completely ready over 3 months before they actually air.

>>27896452
Dude its literally happened in every major league 5 times before. Expecting it to change is retarded

>>27896369
>'Hey guys, please make a perpetual underdog'

Not even Light Novel cash ins are this stupid, they at least make blank slate protags so they can project for jackasses.

There's no point in presenting Ash as some underdog since AG, it's obvious that only Champ-level trainers are a legit threat, and if he stuck to a team the series would have ended by BW's era.

>>27896483
definitely A. Bullshit storytelling.

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>>27896479
>Tips Fedora

>>27896212
Fuck you.

>>27896444
I dont care either but this is the first time pokemon fans have been this mad I dont think they can just ignore this and expect people to still watch the anime.

>>27896485

>Even the animators are sad.

>citation needed

>>27896452
The problem is that you expected basic storytelling in the first place. BW should have been more than enough to show you that such a thing does not exist.

>>27896490
*you're delusional

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Post yfw the shitty homo meme was B T F O and true love won

>>27896483
HOW he lost pissed me off more than anything.
I would have stomached this if charizard came out of this thing permanently crippled.

Charizard comes out of this without a scratch.
Greninja gets one shotted.
The music was badly done.
All the characters react weirdly. I understand ash handling it well, but fucking everyone had big smiles.

>>27896466
>>27896472
Wouldn't that be a good thing, though? Or is that what you're saying. If they take note of this shitstorm, they'll at least probably realize they didn't make the best call here

>>27896025
Yeah, you don't understand the Japanese at all if you seriously think their reaction isn't significantly worse than our reaction. There hasn't been another Haruhi anime because her VA is so hated. An anime bombed in sales because of something about Korea which I can't quite remember.

>>27896444
Kids might drop the pokemon game with this so maybe gamefreak will pressure them to "fix" this.

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At least Greninja's defeat made Pikachu look like the boss he really is

>>27896436
Ash's Ash Greninja could also be considered to be on roids.

Reminder that all the Russian doping scandals are all part of the geopolitical sanctions.

>>27896483
Found it more funny he lost again and then got sad when I found out they didn't even put effort into his loss this time.

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>>27896356
who gives a fuck...another pitiful consolation prize tossed to ash by people far superior than he'll ever be...his shelf full of participation trophies is more depressing than anything that happened at any league

>>27896490
>Alan will become good
>will
>Not currently good
>Currently bad

I'm actually having to spell this out for you, holy shit

>>27895410

>Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
>Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.

>Will Serena win da Ash?
>It sure looks that way.


delete this the Generals are not allowed to have this till the rage ceases

>>27896520
>the first time pokemon fans have been this mad

ha

ahaha

It's a shame you weren't born yet when Misty left.

>>27896523
https://twitter.com/aoshi11/status/766241482881638400

https://twitter.com/nishiyan0120

>>27896550
Yup. That's what I'm saying. It's my honest hope.

>>27896519
you're spamming

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Thanks Pokemon anime
Your fucking league final got me depressed the entire fuckign day
and i dont want to study
fuck this shit
invested so many time here wondering how ash was gonna win the league because, you know, everything pointed to that
and then BOOM
no he doesnt le not le win XD
FUCK THIS SHIT

Save the anime, Serena. Save the world

>>27896430
Why?

>>27896476
I was actually warming up to him and his design.

>>27896467
>We want Ash's Zard back
Retraining this thing would be the only thing that's required to winning the league.

>>27896476
He's a qt.

>>27896483
Mad that he lost

Megazard is crazy strong if only elite 4 members, a champion, primal Pokemon, and maybe a mega Audino (according to Manon) were the ones that beat it

>>27896509
Everything was built up for it to change, ever since Ash outright beat a Mega Lucario all bets were off.

Nobody expected him to win at the beginning of XY. The show gradually built up to it and deliberately set that expectation.

>>27896398
I care.

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>>27896483
>Greninja gets an upgraded shuriken attack which is somehow not powerful enough to defeat Charizard, making the shuriken's new look pointless
>Greninja gets beaten by blast burn, even though Ash knew how to counter it with water shuriken

Also
>Ash never got to beat Alan

Guys, relax. Alain will be disqualified for being allied with flare and ash will win. He may not except it but its a win, isnt it? Theyre doing this to arouse attention.

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Who SHOULD Ash have brought if he actually wanted to ACTUALLY win the fucking league?

Pic related should obviously be his first picks, but who else are Ash's Top Tier mons?

Just show everyone some more new pokemon and all will be forgotten.

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>>27896538
Hetero wins

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y/n?

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Has the anime every created this much salt besides the hair cut episode before?

>>27896575
Pls leave

>>27896654
There's no reason to deny this. The writing is entirely at fault here.

Wew, did they seriously not realize how much merch they would sell if they let ash-greninja be the pokemon to finally win ash his league?
I seriously don't understand. It's the best marketing maneuver they could have made. Like holy shit.
What kid wants to go all the way to gamestop to get the event distro for greninjob?

>>27896657
Plenty of times. How young are you?

>>27896528
The guy in charge of BW was sacked exactly because of his shit storytelling.

Formerly Based Director was supposed to be the antithesis of that, and he did a great fucking job until the very last second.

>>27896570
Yes will. He is nor good nor bad now. He will fall down only to be saved by Manon.
Ash accepting pity trophy will be so out of character.

>>27896657
>hair cut episode

Fuck off longhairfag

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>>27896538
I hate how everyone says this fight was a bad lesson for kids. We learned something very important this episode. That Love is stronger than Friendship

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>>27896608
>invested so many time here
Used time que volver

>>27896608
>Sees pic
I have too much hope for that pairing now.

>>27896654
the animators are responsible because there the ones who animated it -_-;

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>>27896657
>hair cut episode
>salt
I guess for 79 IQ yeah sure

>>27896654
yeah, animation was pretty good throughout the entire battle
too bad they got the guy who wrote the last unova league episode to write the final

>>27896641

>>27896682


Theyre not stupid enough to mess this up

>>27896682
Greninja was also voted the most popular Pokemon in Japan a few months ago too. That's also why I thought they'd let Ash and Greninja win. Literally makes no sense.

>>27896641
Let's say that happens.
Just like he won't except it, no one else will either. He didn't actually win.
A "win by default" is just going to worsen his reputation, and a "win because the actual winner thinks he deserves it more" isn't acceptable, either.
Winning the league will only count if he actually wins the fucking league, with anything else being a cheap shot.

41/60 think OP should change

inb4 'they're all shitposters'

>>27896576
Youngfag I was there when misty left and it was not this bad.

>>27896657
How was the backlash over the haircut anyways?

>>27896654

Obviously?

The writers were B/W's writers.

Now, it's very apparent that they're just patsies, because they're probably some internal mandate that prevents Ash from ever actually winning a tournament, but it was still done in a shitty way.

Ash should have synchro'ed with Pikachu

At least the lose would make the fallout even more devastating

>>27896692
Old enough watch all episodes when they aired but wasn't always part of discussion groups to measure the salt levels.

>>27895410
>Shit people will ask:
>>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
>Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.
Thanks for staying rational OP!

>>27896576
Most fans already quit the anime halfway into Johto. Those who were still watching didn't care Misty left.

The obsessive Pokeshippers who sat there raging were always a vocal minority, that's why Misty stayed gone in the first place and why the writers didn't bring her back like they did with Brock.

>>27896738
Nice backpedaling faggot
>I-its ok he loses but it was shitty
HE LOST. YOU FAGS HAVE NOTHING LEFT TO LOOK FORWARD TO. HIS LOSS IN DP WAS 10 TIMES BETTER THAN YOUR SHITTY FROG JOBBING

Amourshipping is still alive. Idk why people think its dead. She still likes him

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>>27896476
So much spotlight, Stealing screentime everywhere. FOR FUCKING NOTHING. I can't even watch those episodes anymore. This episode has fucked all over Greninja's development and the XY series as a whole

>>27896714
I really like that Serena's new look from when I first saw it.

>>27896727
Mostly one guy that's STILL shitposting about it.

It's a very well liked episode.

>>27896748
Some of that was pre everyone and their grandmother having internet youtube or twitter days. The salt was always there

>>27896707
spent so much time here*
Perdón, amigo gringo.

>>27896723
They all aren't, but a good chunk of them are. Wait a week and repost it

>>27896765
Because Ash losing solidified the "status quo"

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>>27896765
Don't tempt them.

I at least am going down with the ship. See you at the bottom of the sea.

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>people blaming animators and writers
>even though none of them get to decide whether Ash wins the league or not

>>27896765
That's not saving her from being replaced.

>>27896714
I liked long hair better, but I understand the character development behind the haircut and I can accept it.

Long hair with her shorthair outfit would have been best

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>>27896753

>Brock

Speaking of, every one that's ever replaced Brock has always been objectively worse.

People can argue over their waifu all day long, but no other helper's been nearly as good as Brock.

Whoever the flavour of the arc waifu is, they better bring back best bro.

>>27896750
>rational
>recommending this league
Pick one.
It was a good bulidup now the Emperor has no clothes. There's no big master plan. They'll job this season before it ends at least once more.

You can't recommend that to people in the state it's in now. But, of course, you need to virtue signal how great you think anime is. Fucking cunt.

>>27896765

She's always liked him. The thing that needs to change is him liking her.

Status quo will not allow this.

>>27896753
which is why they think that Battle Frontier doesn't magically count.

>>27896701
Listen you dense mongoloid, the guy using faggy DARKNESS powers is supposed to get his ass kicked by the protagonist with the power of friendship and realize his mistake.

They are literally saying that angst and solo grinding your starter is better than the protagonist's group friendship.

Two questions:
1. Anyone have a gif/webm of Greninja using the shuriken to fight off the dragon claws? Probably the best part of that fight
2. Does this mean that mirror Ash won?

>>27896042
Infernape can only get close to being knocked out and then lolBlaze.

>>27896796
Serena also got hit by the status quo, don't forget that.

>>27896704
I kind of agree, and this is also why I found the battle passable.
Alan actually fought for something that mattered to him. Ash simply does not have that motivation, and at times it seems like he barely cares about winning as long as he has a good time.

>>27896794
very well I'll do another next week

not Thursday though, when the casuals turn up

>>27896814
Why did he leave anyway?
I know misty left because of her voice actor but why him?

>>27896818

The battle frontier is a glorified series of gyms. It's not a regional competition. Same goes for the orange league.

>>27896762

The fuck are you talking about?

He lost. He's always going to lose. Yes it's bullshit, but everyone's accepted it.

Turns out, he also lost in a shitty way this time too, unlike when he lost in Johto.

Its a day later and I'm still depressed. I mean holy shit it literally ruined my week.

I don't think I can even muster any enthusiasm for the last remaining XYZ episodes now.

>>27896807
I'm blaming the director and the suits at the network.


I'm also saving some blame for the jews because they might be involved too.

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>>27896723
When a poll jumps from "11 say yes, 8 say no" to "32 say yes, 10 say no", you seriously can't claim actual opinion is being represented here.

Especially not when the option that's winning is the one that's been in most of the shitposter threads with completely rewritten OPs.

>>27896796

>>27896641

>>27896855
I think watching it will feel like a post scriptum. Maybe I cheer up with the next anime.

inb4 Pikachu loses to Poplio

>>27896765
Only way to save it was
>Everyone talking to ash
>ash saying "nah its fine bla bla im ok i had fun"
>everyone leaves Ash alone
>Serena forgets something in the room
>finds Ash very sad looking through a window
>Ash confesses he actually cant believe he lost
>Serena embraces him from behind
>"you're still a champion to me..."

>>27896848
Misty didn't leave for her VA. Shudo made the decision to remove her because she had no real role on the show and he felt she was pointless.

What is this "Status Quo" you fags keep bringing up?

>>27896807
whoever runs TPCi should fucking fire the producer of the show. they lost them billions by killing Ash's momentum. Had Ash won the league, this would've spread like a wildfire that would've made GO users care about the anime again.

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>>27896868
VS Lysander on top of Lumious Tower.

>>27896079
>Never became Diggersby while Chespin was the more important shitmon
RIP

Can't wait to see these threads in the day Serena leaves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaUSAnpGfv0
This would actually be good if ash became depressed or something. maybe grew up and got a desk job with gary and brock and make the show Pokemon :the office.

I would watch it.

>>27896848
>I know misty left because of her voice actor
Which youtuber told you that?

>>27896847
The casuals are the ones in the thread every day though

>>27896855

>getting legitimately depression over a Japanese animation

Get out.

>>27896847
That's perfectly fine with me.

>>27896179
No. Ash is a loser, amour is blatantly false, and people lying and pretending otherwise deserve to be made fun of.

Don't know why people expect this to be your generic shonen where the MC gets stronger and stronger when really it's just a sitcom, just without the same setting.

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With people treating to stop buying pokemon merchandise do you think game freak will pressure tvjapan into fixing this?

>>27896886

So why the fuck did BROCK leave? And come back? And leave again?

>>27896893
>TPCi

>>27896878
i've been watching it and it never 'jumped'

>>27896830
Love > friendship.
Also, league winner is not Champion, Kalos can live without one, so if Alan, by small chance, arrested - trophy will go to the shelf, waiting for new winner next year. Literally no reason to give it to Ash.

>>27896921
They're the ones who told them to do it though. Why are you under the assumption they are seperate entities?

>>27896911
Yeah, fuck people who have their own interests, right?

>>27896807
But the issue is that Alan can be fine with losing since the point of Ash inviting him to the league is to help him not be a full edgelord

Ash winning gives him a shot to battle the Kalos E4+Champion, but there is no given rule that he can't put on the trophy on the shelf and move on to the next one

>>27896853
>Glorified series of Gyms
>Trainers have fucking Legendaries

The only meme league was Orange League, Battle Frontier was literally almost in-between League/E4 level.

This is the reason why during that time people were looking forward to the DP anime.

>>27896817
BUT MUH XY007 NOSE SCRATCH, MUH XY59, MUH ASH SEES SERENA AS IMPORTANT TO HIM, MUH XYZ12 WHERE ASH AND SERENA'S BATTLE TOGETHER WAS MORE IN SYNC THAN ANYTHING EVER, MUH SNOWBELLE ARC

Where are all the Amourfags now? Hellooooooo?

Will we finally learn about Ash's father in Alola?

Maybe he is a Pokemon Master there.

>>27896924
He came back the first time because he was more popular than Tracey. He lasted in AG because back then the writers probably didn't want to axe both Misty/Brock at the same time because they had no idea if May would be a success or not.

By the time DP started he should have been axed though, no idea why he came back for Sinnoh. Perhaps they couldn't think of a good Gym leader to replace him

>>27896576
this.

and then brock happened.
there was never a actual bro character again was there, I stopped watching in the middle of season 2 and saw a bit of 3.

Is there any hope for a battle château arc?

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>>27896767
This pisses me off a lot. Noivern and goodra won't get redeemed meanwhile Greninja after all the hype jobs at Ash's biggest stage and won't even give a little light to the others. Hell after flare arc it's probably all fucking filler and quality battles that no one will give a damn about.

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I'm dying over here
Of laughter

>>27896886
>>27896904
Oh really that's why? I remember reading something that said it was because of her voice actor I guess it was wrong.

Is there a connection between Aura and Ash-Greninja?

>>27896947
>Own intrest
>Trying to attention whore in thread with 'muh depression'
Fuck off.

>>27895884
I'm actually considering the watch now that i know greniggash isn't a complete gary stu

>>27896894
At least Ash gets to fight Lysandre right guys? First time Ash will beat an evil team leader?

>>27896949
The Battle Frontier is a not a league, just a side challenge like what the games are.

>>27896930
Untrue. It definitely did.

Why DO you insist on changing it, though? All the OP changing today has just been emofagging and shitposting, you can't deny that. Just leave it as is until things calm down.

>>27896887

Ash is not allowed to win a championship or to have romantic feelings. He's supposed to be proxy for players of the game and the second face of the series, not a character in and of himself.

TPC doesn't actually do a lot to interfere with the anime, but these things, along with Pikachu not being allowed to take an extended leave from Ash's team, are rules set by TPC which have to be followed.

>>27896995
It's Alan who fights Lysander

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>>27896987

Cool it you stupid kid.

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>>27896807
>mfw I was right about the high executives having the final word

But nooooooo, sb is just an autistic shitposter
right guys?
*sarcasm intended*

What reason is there to watch the anime now? The biggest reasons to get invested in the plot pretty much amount to nothing right? I can't imagine the fights and action being better than a shorter series airing right now.

>>27896878
Polls tend to vary a lot and be inaccurate at the start, and then turn more and more stable and representative as more people vote.

That's like statistics 101. People want to change the OP.

>>27897007
I was watching the poll too. It never jumped just a slow and steady increase.

>>27897003
It's also much more challenging than the league as well.

>>27896987
I'm not even him, it's just stupid to chastise a person for being into the Pokemon anime in the thread for the Pokemon anime on the Pokemon board.
If you think he's being an attention whore, why give him attention?

>>27896971
Shudo had nothing to do with it either, and didn't even work on the show anymore at the time, but he was either still working on it when the decision was made or heard the reasoning from coworkers.

>>27896643
Pikachu, Charizard, Infernape, Snorlax, Sceptile and a tossup between Grenigga and Krook.

Pikachu has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is Ash's strongest pokemon.
Charizard and Snorlax are his strong staple Gen 1 mons. Powerful and durable
Blaze Infernape is literally stronger than Ash Greninja
Sceptile killed a legend, and having Grass moves is a real boon.

Final spot is between the only decent Unovamon that's a strong ground type, or Jobninja

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>Ash loses the league
>People claim that they no longer care about the anime and won't watch it anymore
>Trailer for the new series comes out
>People get hyped again even though they know Ash won't win

every time

>>27896641
Has anyone in the history of the show ever been disqualified for something by being a member of an organisation?
Hell, one of Kanto's Gym Leaders is the boss of Team Rocket and he had the trio fight in his place.

>>27896576
Actually came here to say this.
Last time people got this mad was when a staple character left the show and things changed.
Now everyone's upset that a continuing plotpoint repeated and things didn't change.
Do they even know what they're doing at this point?

>>27897003
yes, and that challenge is at a higher level than what the league preliminaries are. The only reason why fags shit on it is to maintain the illusion that Ash always lost. when in reality, this was the furthest he's come to winning the league outright.

The writers could of developed the other pokemon instead of giving it to nautoad and ash here's my fanfic tier development they could of done with chespin

>reason he eats and flirts with everygirl is to drown out/hide something
>A secret deep depression of a [insert somemon that chespin would find important in his past] being lost or got "sick"
>this is found out through meowth during a "everyone getting separated for no reason episode" or after
>Chespin has enough of everyones s***
>Inb4 bunelby was the one dealing with his s***
>s***
>he Runs away mini-story ark of why/what chespin is depressed from and everyone finding out
Continue... my fanfic tier bullshit?

>>27896960
Tracy was a bro, he just wasn't as good a bro.

No other sidekick has been a bro.

I want James to abandon Team-Rocket for a season and be the best fucking bro ever.

>>27896031
Is there anything supporting this?
i wouldn't even be mad 2bh!

>>27897018
>t. faggot crying and depressed over a japanese childerns show

>>27896932
Except he was still being an angsty faggot and trying to protect the leprechaun by doing literally everything the hero is not supposed to do.

You don't get the girl until AFTER you understand the value of friends and bonds and shit.

>>27896185
Amourfags ladies and gentleman

>>27897036
it clearly isn't if ash won it

>>27897017

wait holy shit I think you're on to something

>Ash loses
>All zygarde shit happens
>Ash ends up saving kalos
>During that time, Ash realizes there are more important things that winning the league, and he's willing to try
>he's recognized as the hero of kalos
>Serena wins da ash
>time skip
>we see a teenager Ash winning the league
>the end
>time skip
>their son is the new protag

y/n

>>27897029
Do you seriously think a poll like that represents actual opinion today, when the threads have been "lol cucks btfo" all fucking day?

I can hear a the sounds of a thousand keyboards clicking with poorly written fix fics where Alan gets a stroke or something.

>>27897026
Never get invested in the anime.
You can continue to watch for new pokémon being showcased and occasionally good battles.
Watching it for the characters or the story is something that should never be done.

>>27897083
No.

>>27897067
No, that's a troll that's spammed that "possibility" for two years now, newfag-kun

>>27897070
A certain brown-haired rival had an army of females.