/pmdg/ - Pokemon Mystery Dungeon

>>27876456
rip old thread

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>>27876456
>this monter house
rip grand master of all bad things

Also rip anime thread.

>>27876531
yeah that anime stuff is going to flood the board all day. Keep bumped

Is Super worth buying? Last game I played was Sky but I heard Super wasn't as good.

>>27876754
Opinions vary on Super, personally I think it's not as good as Sky, but Super is still very good. Others feel Super's the best of them all. Simply put, if you liked Sky at all, get it.

>>27876754
Personally found that it had much better gameplay than Sky, but the plot went to shit after the first half. It's still worth trying out regardless.

I want the chief to bump into me

Why was the Super protagonist such a waifufag compared to the others

>>27876847
>plot went to shit after the first half. It's still worth trying out regardless.
I thought it got better. I never played Sky, though.

>>27876886
Because he had almost no plot relevance whatsoever besides being an escort in the Voidlands and being really close with the partner, so there's not much to him besides being obsessed with the partner.

Just remembered why I hate PMD.

Playing some Super after not touching it for months, enter a dungeon and take one step, "Jynx used Perish Song"

whats the difference playing vanilla pokemon than mystery dungeon?

>>27877941
They play absolutely nothing alike, not even the same genre

>>27877986
is mystery dungeon mostly questing through dungeons

>>27878002
Yes

>>27878002
It's a rougelike. If you've ever played Shiren, it's sort of the same deal. You dungeon crawl mostly.The main think I like about the games is everything's usable, no matter how useful it is in the mainline games. So feel free to use Farfetch'd if you want

>>27877941
>whats the difference playing vanilla pokemon than mystery dungeon?

I assume you are asking 'what's the difference between PMD and vanilla Pokemon'

Huge. First off, it's a dungeon crawler, meaning it plays differently. Some mechanics were changed to accomodate that (eg. priority moves simply have better range, Speed doesn't even exist before Super re-introduced it, etc.).

Type matchup is different. In earlier games, the only immunities were granted by Abilities and type-based immunities were basically 'resistance, but better.'

One of the biggest changes? No IV and EV system. All Pokemon have the same cap of stats. Once you reach postgame, what Pokemon you'll use will rarely matter, mostly in Lv. 1 dungeons, as anything can become gamebreaking.

Oh by the way, Drifloon is our god and savior. Pray to Unburden Drifloon.

>>27878086
>Type matchup is different.
how so?

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>>27878168
Type interactions are the same (eg. fire still beats grass, dark still beats ghost, etc.). Other than the type immunities.

The way they work in older games (probably before Gates to Infinity, as GtI started to change mechanics; eg. Pursuit is now an actual damaging move and not a self-status move), is different.

As far as I know, this is how the old version works.

>>27878168
In older games, you could hit flying types with Ground attacks. In super, type effectiveness is just reduced, but immunities are there

Quick question, I've played both rescue team and explorers, loved the plot progression and character interactions of rescue team, absolutely hated that in explorers, but liked how the game mechanics were improved.

So, in terms of plot and gameplay, how are GTI and Super compared to rescue team and Explorers? I'd prefer one with a plot and character interaction closer to rescue team, even at the cost of gameplay personally, but I don;t really wanna spend a whole bunch of money on a 3DS to play a game I might not like.

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It was a Huge Power boosted crit, but still.

Finally broke the mininumber counter.

>>27879567
GtI's characters were very good. You still have the main hero+partner duo, but you also have extras like Virizion, Emolga, and Dunsparce who are a part of your team, and they all interact with each other and have quite a bit of personality. The gameplay's somewhat butchered, though.

Super has the best gameplay, and the first half of the story revolves around schoolchildren who all have a pretty good dynamic with each other, along with the partner and her relationship with her dad. Those all get dropped in the second half of the story, where much of the cast felt like the guild in that only one or two people mattered despite there being so many characters. The plot also changes from a calm/comfy one to a generic anime power of friendship plot, so that's also a thing.

>>27879574
>it's a '2 consecutive shops in western cave' episode
keks, stop teasing with me vitamins i can't get

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>>27879861
>4 floors later
What did they mean by this?

>>27879719
>The plot also changes from a calm/comfy one to a generic anime power of friendship plot
What

inb4 404'd again due to info

Pokemon info about to drop soon. in fucking german

KEEP CALM AND POST ON.

>>27880739
why german though? Out of all countries, why Germany?

>>27879567
GtI has worse gameplay but most of the plot is closer to RT. Super improves gameplay a lot and it's basically just a bunch of references to all of the games.

>>27880959
Because that's where Gamescom takes place.

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>>27880664
>not remembering the part where almost everyone's killed off but your friendship scarves prevent you and your partner from dying a second time
>or when the player character loses hope only to get right back on his feet two seconds later because his dead friends are alive in spirit
Serene Village>Lively Town

Hey guys I just replayed Sky the last week on an emulator, it wasn't as hard as I remember it being as a child but I enjoyed it quite a bit. I want to get Super now but I'm still a little unsure, advice?

>>27881814
As far as I know:
Gameplay:Super>Sky
Story:Sky>Super
Also, Morimoto finally arrived, so expect a /vp/ nuke soon.

>>27881814
Use items if you're having trouble in the game. If you have CFW on your 3DS, custom starters are also possible in case you're not into the generic Fire+Water+Grass choices. The game actually provides a genuine challenge unlike Sky, but whether or not the plot is better depends on who you're asking.
I'd say get it, it's good.

>>27881923
>>27881995
ty you two, the story isn't a big selling point for me so I'll pick it up sometime this week

>>27881357
I thought everyone agreed that Serene Village was the best part of the game

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>>27884193
>all these news amounted to one new pokemon and that's it

At least I can continue my Mewtwo recruit run.

>burn huge power facade
HE DIDN'T SEE THE FACADE COMING.

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>>27884257
That's one stat down.

>>27881995
Not the guy you were responding to, but is custom starters only possible with CFW? Or is homebrew enough?

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Move tutors are pretty weird in Super; the elemental fangs aren't available for anyone despite being Egg moves. Are they just unavailable in this game?
Good thing I picked Totodile before switching starters

>>27886310
You'd need CFW to do it (either use NTR or the AR3DS codes), but if you only have Homebrew I can make a save with the starters you want and upload them somewhere so you can use them, since save extracting/injecting only requires Homebrew.

>>27886316
Hawlucha teaches only regular Move Turos + whatever your starter had as an Egg Move.

Egg Moves were available only in Explorers AFAIK

>>27881357
I don't know if its just me but I always hated the whole, "but your friendship prevented it". With the two newest games final bosses, I never felt like I could actually lose.

>>27886371
Yeah, I only have Homebrew (Just got it to, not exactly sure what I can and can't do with it). If you could make a save with Honedge as the main and Drifloon as the partner that would be awesome!

>>27886704
I'll get on it. It might take some time, if that's okay with you.
Leaving their names as the defaults, since there's a menu where you can edit them.

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>>27886704
>Honedge as the main and Drifloon as the partner
>drifloon

>>27886847
Yeah I know Drifloon is super OP or whatever. I wanted to use it though because it is one of my favorite pokemon! And I figured that I could leave its ability as aftermath instead of unburden so that the game wouldn't become super easy.
With the added bonus of having access to unburden drifloon without breaks whenever I'm done with the story

>>27886663
I think it's okay sometimes and believe it's justified when fighting anti-friendship or something similar because it makes sense to bring balance. Super's instance is a pretty minor case of it in my opinion. The scarves were merely tools powered by their bond. It's like saying "you gave me the courage to shoot this gun."

Today I made a panda happy.

I like Spinda to be honest. It's derpy and cute.

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Here it is:
https://mega.nz/#!V4hDmY6K!lTLeogzfc73FvsWQyy7SFmHRuxB0V9pUMsClTbS6ZWU
Went up to the part with Gabite, since that's when your partner joins you. Just put everything in the root of your SD card, launch the save manager, and then inject the save. It should work.

>>27887107
Abilities might be fucked up right now, but usually it'll fix itself sometime soon. If not, then a Lucha Token would also do the trick.
>With the added bonus of having access to unburden drifloon without breaks whenever I'm done with the story
I still can't believe someone thought that breaks should stay even in the postgame.

>>27887988
It worked. Thank you so much!

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>meteor cave
>deoxys roaming AI makes no sense
>it can also hide on water tiles (?)
>even 3 huge apples might not be enough
>tfw all this

literally the only reason i found this one was because gust trap threw me near it

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>>27889028
>put on x-ray specs for next run
>mfw Deoxys roaming AI

how the fuck are you supposed to clear this without x-ray specs' help?

>>27889314
>Even with X-ray specs, it's fucking stupid because speed form
>fucking SPEED FORM

You know, I'm kind of ok with Alan winning the league
but did people actually hate him before this?

>>27892062
why are you posting this in this fucking thread of all places
go away, there are a billion anime threads already

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>mfw I first played Rescue Team and thought Meteor Cave was the best place to grind experience
I wish I could forget the hours spent chasing aliens.

>>27892092
>implying I can't ask different thread's about what they thought
who cares about the Anime threads? I want to know if Mystery Dungeon general even cares about it

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>>27892221
I've always hated charizard, so i've always hated him by proxy.

>>27892221
If you don't care about the anime then why are you bringing it up??? If I wanted to talk about the anime I'd have gone to any one of the hundred anime threads that have been created today.

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If anyone else wants some custom starters for Super but doesn't have CFW available, I could make the saves for you guys to use for Homebrew.

Thinking about it, there's never been a Steel type starter rep, right? I wish Super gave us all types rather than all starters, would've been cool to use a fairy type on the first playthrough.

>>27892352
>who cares about the Anime "THREADS"
god, you can't read

>>27892455
I just did a count for you. There are seventy (70 (seven zero)) threads about today's anime episode on the board right now. I don't care for the anime so you'll have to excuse me for being puzzled as to why someone would come to the PMD thread to ask about the anime when they could have done it in any of the seventy currently existing threads.
People don't talk about the anime here because it's a thread for a specific line of spinoff games.

Want to talk about the PMD anime specials instead? If not, that's fine. If you'd rather talk about today's fight between Charizard and Greninja, I'd be happy to point you to many, many, other threads where you'd get more people who'd be happy to give you their opinions.

>>27892446
Not unless you count Piplup.

>>27892446
I want a Wooper/Mareep set, but i dont have a hacked 3ds, and have no way to hack it right now

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>>27892663
By "not having a hacked 3DS," do you mean you don't have CFW, Homebrew, or both? Pretty sure you can get Homebrew even on the latest system version, so try to get that if possible.
https://smealum.github.io/3ds/
Either way I'll get that done for you.

>>27892663
The latest homebrew hack is really easy. You just need to drop some files onto your SD and then scan a QR code to reset into the homebrew launcher and run an installer so you can decide to boot up into homebrew mode anytime without the QR code from then on.

Then it's just a matter of waiting until a new CFW exploit is found.

>>27892833
Simply put, I haven't modified my 3ds in any way. So I dont have CFW or Homebrew.

>>27892937
Oh, okay. It's pretty simple, as the anon above your post said, all you have to do is put some files into your SD card, then scan a QR code to get into the HBL. Your 3DS won't be messed up in any way, and when you're done doing what you want to do, you can delete those files and revert to having a completely unmodded system.
Cool or cute Mareep?

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>>27892997
I'm honestly just scared that they'll throw out some update that'll brick my console. I have too much pokemon related stuff to go and lose it now.

Also, Cool Mareep, because Ampharos is the coolest dude around

>>27892617
You're not the anime threads though, a completely different group with different thoughts

>>27893118
and yet we are not contained in this thread, we may go to other threads and talk about different subjects where they are relevent, instead of going to shiny hunt weekend threads and asking could inject me some 6iv dittos

>>27892997
So, let me get this straight, so I'm not confused. This goes like:

>put files on SD Card
>load up specific game to mod it
>homebrew is here
>put SMD savefile somewhere
>play through game
>if i'm worried a new update will fuck it up i take files off sd card
>but the smd savefile should be safe

Is this correct? I've only been comfortable modding the Wii so far, as that thing's basically foolproof

>>27893228
The current homebrew hack is
>Put files on SD card
>Boot up 3ds
>Turn on the camera
>Scan a QR code
done

>>27893269
And after i scan the qr code, what happens? Actually, which of these things in that homebrew link do i grab?

>>27893323
The starterpack's what you should use for your first time. It has everything you need, besides the save manager. Once I get the save ready, I'll include the save manager application with it.
When you scan the QR code, it'll send you to the internet browser, which'll then launch an exploit that boots you into the Homebrew Launcher.

>>27893375
Alright, do i put "starter" at the root, or all three of the files?

>>27893496
The files inside of the starter zip get placed into the root. Don't put them in another folder or it won't work.

>>27893550
Done, now where's that QR code again?

>>27893640
https://yls8.mtheall.com/3dsbrowserhax.php

>>27893700
I scanned it, it opened up the internet, and then after a few seconds, cut to the camera, made a noise, and froze

>>27893900
I should state that it doesn't look bricked, it turns on

>>27893900
If that didn't work, try deleting/resetting your Browser data, then type these into your 3DS.

Old 3DS:
http://yls8.mtheall.com/spider31hax.php

New 3DS:
http://yls8.mtheall.com/skater31hax.php

>>27894013
What does resetting the browser involve anyways? Need to head out for a bit anyways

>>27894093
It's in the 3DS browser settings, should be one of the last settings there, along with clearing cookies/history.
Got to the Drilbur Coal Mine section, which means I can edit the partner now. Will upload the save in a bit.

>>27879719
>>27881028
hmm, guess I'll have to give both a try, sounds like I might like GTI a bit more though, thanks!

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Here's the save manager and save files for Wooper and Mareep.
https://mega.nz/#!NxpA1DJR!Q4RAg6nOo1Cq-MbR3Ru8iJWu9FlTvZUDpkItziWCPAU

If you got Homebrew to work, then all you have to do is go to the save manager. If you want to back up your old save first, then click backup, store it somewhere safe, then copy the savedatabackup folder from the zip back to the root again to regain the custom starters save. Then import the save.

>>27894649
Out of curiosity, have you tried pokemon with various forms as a starter? How does the game react to a leader Rotom or Shaymin in the overworld, since it asks what form you want to use when you enter a dungeon?

>>27894757
Not sure. I'll give that a try in a bit, along with doing a run with multiple evolutions/fully evolved Pokemon to see how the scarf cutscene handles their evolution after 100% my current run.
The ID list lists characters like Rotom and Shaymin's alternate forms as different Pokemon, so my guess is that it'll just permanently use the form you set it as.

>>27894649
Just to clarify, I CAN do this on 11.whatever right?

>>27895245
yep
I did it myself to give myself charms in monster hunter

>>27895245
Yeah. As long as Homebrew works, you can put the files in your SD card and import the save using the save manager. No CFW needed.

Also forgot to mention that that save used Mudkip+Pikachu as the base, so Wooper+Mareep's base movesets and stats are from those two.

>>27895319
Wooper CAN learn other moves though, right? Like the normal learnset past the beginning ones, i mean?

Alright, we're into the homebrew launcher! Now what?

>>27895345
Yeah, the two will learn their proper moves later on, it's only their base stats/moves/abilities that are shared from Mudkip/Pikachu's.
The ability will likely fix itself, but I haven't tested enough to know when that happens. For my Poochyena+Jigglypuff save, it got fixed as soon as they entered the School Forest dungeon.

>>27895404
You downloaded the save manager and Wooper/Mareep files, right? Do that, then go navigate to the save manager. Then keep pressing right until you reach PSMD. Backup the save if you want, or import the custom starter save if you don't care about your old file.

>>27895461
How do i back this save up?

>>27895488
In the save manager, there should be a backup option. Do that, then eject your SD card, and store the savedatabackup folder someplace safe.
After you do that, get the savedatabackup in the Wooper+Mareep .zip and put it back in the SD card. You can then import the custom save without having to worry about losing your old save.

>>27895561
Alright, i'm a total idiot. Where is the save manager? It doesn't look like it's usable on the computer at least. Do i have to scan that qr code every time i want homebrew?

>>27895665
The save manager is in the 3ds folder of the Wooper and Mareep zip. You use it in the Homebrew Launcher.
And yes, you'd have to scan the QR code every time unless you install menuhax. Menuhax is in the starterpack, so it'd also probably show up in the HBL.

>>27895755
I cant install Menuhax

>>27895896
Also, still not seeing Save Manager in the launcher

>>27895896
Oh, right. I think Menuhax is busted on 11.0. You're stuck with the browser for now, unless you want to mess up ORAS or SMD's saves to turn them into a Homebrew Launcher. You probably don't want to do that, though.
Either way, the save manager should work fine.

>>27895994
Try relaunching Homebrew, since it was in the zip file. Are you sure you placed the files correctly?

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>>27896072
>Are you sure you placed the files correctly?
I haven't the faintest idea

>>27896121
>no savedatabackup folder
Get the files from here and extract those to the root of your SD card: >>27894649
Should show up if you do that.

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>>27896186
How's this?

>>27896249
You also merged the 3ds folder from that zip into your SD card too, right?
If you did, then you're good.

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>>27896285
Like this?

>>27896343
Should have the save_manager folder inside of it. That's also from>>27894649 and is inside of that one's 3ds folder.

>>27896377
Save Manager is there, but what now? I clicked SMD in it and it just turned the game on.

>>27896495
Weird. Try it again, normally when you click Save Manager it boots you to a menu where you can extract/install your saves.

>>27896495
Or well, might have been saveDataBackup

/pmdg/ Homebrew Edition

>>27896603
it was the savedatebackup thing, when i click it it only shows "Region Free Launcher"

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>>27896623
Not sure what went wrong there, but normally you should see a list of applications, one of them being the save manager.

>>27896756
I figured out what i did wrong, and i clicked that, and hit A to Backup save data. The sd card's in my comp now, where's the backed up save?

>>27896776
The backed up save is the entire savedatabackup folder.
Copy that to somewhere safe on your computer, then delete it from your SD card.
Then re-add the savedatabackup folder from the zip file onto your SD card, and import the save.

>>27896821
I hit import save, some text popped up and vanished instantly, and sent me to the homebrew menu. Was it really that quick?

>>27896937
Nope, didn't work. holy fucking shit this is hell

>>27896937
Yep. The saves are pretty small.

>>27896967
I loaded up SMD and still saw chespin as my starter

>>27896958
Give it another try, should work eventually. It still shouldn't take long at all.

>>27876456
sorry ive just lurked this thread a couple times before but how do I get custom starters? and if so can I do it on an actual cartridge or just roms

>>27897019
This shit isn't self explanatory at all. I don't know what on earth i'm doing wrong, if it even backed the file up at ALL, and i'm just absolutely frustrated

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>>27897125
Pic related, what's in the 3ds folder. Nothing seems to be working

>>27897097
Super or Sky? Sky's simple, either use Sky Editor or Action Replay codes, and your starters will change to your choice. AR codes fuck up special episodes though.
For Super, you need CFW to change the starters yourself, or you can ask someone with CFW to make a save for you to inject with Homebrew.

>>27897125
Sorry if my explanations aren't that good. If you used the backup option, your save will be backed up just fine. The apps don't really explain things that well and aren't newbie friendly, so I can see why it seems like nothing happened. As long as you placed it on the desktop somewhere, nothing should go wrong. You remembered to delete the savedatabackup folder on the SD card then replace it with the one in the zip, right? You'll need to do that for the startermod to work.

>>27897218
The fact that my 3ds takes half a minute to just shut off doesn't help matters either.

>>27897218
I deleted the folder, replaced it, and still nothing. What the fuck? This is IN the 3ds folder that is IN the sd card

>>27897339
I don't even think this save's backed up to begin with

>you can't have hidden abilities
This is bullshit. I want my Sheer Force boosted gatr.

>>27897339
>>27897378
Alright, going back to step 1 just to make sure nothing gets screwed up.
1. Backup the save (again if you already did it, don't know if you still have the files, so just do it anyway to be safe)
2. Copy the savedatabackup folder from the root of your SD card over to your desktop.
4. Delete the folder from your SD card after copying it over.
5. Put the custom starter savedatabackup folder into the root of your SD card.
6. Import the save.

It should work properly if you do that. The other anon was able to do it without a problem, so I'm not exactly sure why there's been so many things went wrong when you gave it a try.

>>27897603
The two folders are in the 3ds folder. The 3ds folder is in the root of the sd card.

>>27897660
savedatabackup should be in the root, not the 3ds folder.

>>27897716
Alright, we're in business, Wooper's on the main menu now. Now how do i take screenshots of this? Still use Miiverse?

>>27897765
Yeah, either Miiverse or Homebrew's HANS application. Miiverse is probably quicker/more convenient though.

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Well, after about an hour or so of getting madder than i probably should have at a bunch of different things, we're in the clear now! Wooper's got Damp too, so explode traps are on suicide watch

>>27897985
Neat.
Forgot to mention that I left the items I got through the first two dungeons in the storage, in case you needed early wands.
Also sold fresh apples for more earlygame cash.

Hey guy that set me up with these starters, can you make a guide on how to do this? Chances are we'll get a lot of people wanting to change starters

>>27898105
I guess I'll make a guide in a bit. Shouldn't take too long to write it up, just have to make it friendly for new users/people who never modded before. For CFW, you can pick between anyone to be a custom starter, but I'll probably create premade saves with certain starter combos, since not everyone has CFW, like you.

So far I've got saves for
Poochyena+Jigglypuff
Growlithe+Tyrunt
Honedge+Drifloon
Wooper+Mareep

Not exactly sure where to go from that. Might make saves with mons some of the anons here request, Sky and AS's starters, and generic cutemons since almost everyone here seems to have a thing for cute.

>>27898223
I got a friend that'd probably want Sableye. What happens if a pokemon that doesn't evolve well, evolves at that one point?

>>27898449
I'll probably do Sableye and a cute Misdreavus, then.
Not sure about the evolving part, I've yet to try it myself, but there was a YouTube video where someone who used Powersaves for Arceus and Celebi "evolved", resulting in something glitchy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOybTespBSI

>>27898503
Don't do it just yet though, he's still thinking about it

Are these starter sets okay?
Sandile+Marill
Growlithe+Vulpix
Elekid+Magby
Elekid+Shinx
Vulpix+Shinx
Eevee+Vulpix
Eevee+Riolu
Skitty+Eevee
Skitty+Cubone
Ralts+Azurill
Azurill+Wooper
Growlithe+Azurill
Meowth+Pikachu
Cubone+Totodile
Cubone+Machop
Phanpy+Eevee
Axew+Pikachu
First one was just my Gates team, the rest were AS, RT and Sky starters

>>27899289
>Ralts

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>>27899289
>No Espurr

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I'll get back to playing this tomorrow. Looking forward to having to not worry about the shitty breaks for the most part

Is there a save editor for Rescue Team?

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>>27899970
>>27900128
Don't know what I was thinking with Ralts, thought she was an AS starter for some reason. Might do some plot combos like Grovyle+Celebi and Espurr+Ampharos too.

Any recommendations you guys might have?

>>27900150
You also get to sleep with your favorite mon in the end with custom starters, so there's that

>tfw going to evolve Mareep but not Wooper again

The society's big enough for two walking lighthouses

>>27900460
Nope, the game falls apart.

>>27900460
>>27900575
Actually, Sky Editor allows for some save editing in RT, like changing the base and such. No startermods if that's what you're asking, since the game freezes. Not that it matters much anyway, switching leaders in RT turns you into that mon.

Reminder to keep the thread bumped, since the board's still getting a ton of threads made over the league

What Pokémon are the most stable in changing the starters in PSMD?

bamp

Uploading some starter combos. I'll post a Homebrew guide on installing custom starters in Super once I finish everything here. >>27899289
https://mega.nz/#F!ZsYRgCwL!e6LYqEDwQ_0b8wLnM0rS5Q


>>27902247
None of the starter choices seem to freeze. I was able to run through the game just fine with Poochyena/Jigglypuff, and it seems like the anons doing Honedge/Drifloon and Wooper/Mareep haven't encountered any problems.
If you're talking about what mons to use before switching starters, anyone works. Pick the one with the moveset you like the most, since the replacement mon will still keep the old moves.

>>27902687
do u think u can also link to a guide on how to install homebrew, that might help a lot for me and a lot of other anons and add it to the general post as well

>>27902805
I'll probably put Homebrew setup in the same guide as installing the custom starters through it so those people can do it. Will write it up and post it in this thread once I finish up on the general starter packs.

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>manage to find my old Explorers of Darkness
>decide to play it all thought again
>game ranges between easy-medium difficulty most of the game
>get to the final chapter
>proceed to get ass raped by RNG
>Temporal Tower proceeds to fuck me via enemy crits, monster houses out the dick, shitty item spawn
>Finally get to Primal Dialga
>Roar of Times twice
>die
>Go back
>Get stuck in a monster house filled with Porygon-Z Discharge+Agility hax
>Manage to get to Dialga again
>Crits my partner with Dragon Claw instantly killing him
Fuck, has this game always been this hard? Or did RNG just get me real good?

>>27903133
RNG is probably getting you, I didn't have any difficulty with Explorers' final stretch.

>>27903172
Fuck. That's disheartening, I always remember these games had RNG bullshit fucking me over in the past. Shame too because I love the PMD series

>>27903205
I know the feeling. In Rescue Team's final dungeon I got trapped in a hallway with a double-speed Aerodactyl. Never stood a chance. Sometimes you just have to roll with the roll if you don't have the means to counter it.

If someone were to make portraits for other Pokémon in SMD, and then a save editor was used to change the starter to that Pokémon, would the requisite cutscenes have those portraits? Hell, since I'm feeling particularly ambitious, does anyone know what modeling/animating software the game was coded in, or how to import animations and models for a particular Pokèmon? If I'm getting my Explorers Riolu/Eevee team back, or Shinx/Vulpix, I want it done RIGHT.

>>27903275
Fuck, man, I know that feel. Got raped by a Sigilyph with Tailwind and Psybeam. It had managed to pick up a looplet dropped by a Thief-ing Mightyena - had both Dizzying Stare and Effect Boost. You can guess how that went over. Couldn't even get in line with the fucker to wand it, because it moved at double speed.

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Ok, I admit, I haven't been playing Sky for your viewing pleasure and hatred, because I've been playing Platinum
finally fucking caught a Gible for my team, fuckers really did not want to come along

PMD game that lets you be ANY unevolved Pokemon or Pokemon that don't evolve (except legendaries) when?

>>27903682
Probably some shitty MMO version of PMD that would reduce them to a single portrait and a static sprite/model. I doubt they'd go through the trouble making all those animations and portraits unless they wanted to use them for a long time, and these games have changed styles two (technically three with AS) times.

>>27903298
Come on, nobody? I just want to know if I can make, say, a murder balloon curl up in/over a nest. Or draw it screaming.

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Made the Homebrew/custom starter installation guide. It's a bit hastily put together, but I'm sure most people would be able to get it done.

http://pastebin.com/9146PLgH

>>27904354
Cute Pochi
This artist does porn, doesn't he? I can feel it

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>>27904432
Nah, he draws weird OCs instead

>>27904540
Hm. Usually I can tell these things by artstyle. And that artstyle looks like they do porn
>Sword isn't even on fire since it's a Fire-Type
This artist doesn't even understand the basics of OC

>>27904432
His style looks like another artist's, and that artist does porn.

>>27904716
Ah, that's probably what it is. It's weird how you can just tell an artist does porn just by their artstyle

>>27903298
I don't think there's a way to do that yet. EoS is the only one.

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why is he so perfect?

>>27902871
Can I request an MC mareep and partner nidoran female pack?

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>finish a FA mission
>boulder cave
>some mission later
>another FA mis-
>it's an escort mi-
>it's an alakazam with 80HP
>takes 0-1 damage from attacks
>mfw this

are silent chasm pokemon really that weak

Both FA missions are Silent Chasm. Will the third one be also Silent Chasm?

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>>27907962
>dragon cave
>get this mission in mail
Fuck.

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>>27907991
>you can do this
I didn't fucking know about this. Good to know.

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>that pmdg team picture
Yeah I know I'm late to the show, but still.

bump

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>>27906097
>reliable
>strong
>pulls you out of bad situations all the time
>leader
>adorable

>>27909881
You mean adorKable.

>a lighthouse Pokemon known for helping people find their way in core series that can't find his way in Super

that ramenmpharos is comfy as fuck, though.

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>>27909935
Amp's the only exception to the whole "if it's a starter i dont evolve it" rule I have. Shame the next game won't have it as a main mon probably

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>>27909967
>mfw the biggest I get for my fav is being used as a Ditto disguise in Sky's special

no love for it or its family. At least the Marill family has bigger plot relevance in Explorers.

Also, Bellossom shares the "gets smaller AND lighter upon evo" feat with Porygon2. Even when compared to Oddish.

>>27907259
Sure, I'll get on it.

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I question this.Also no partner because of the critfest that was 8th station pass.

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>>27910849
>that filter

>>27910849
>746x560
what is this
a DS for people with giantism?

Picking a female Pikachu and Snivy in GtI gives you a new title screen of the two characters walking around Post Town.

>>27911248
>picking a female Pikachu
are you playing Japanese version?

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Boards been pretty fast lately.

>>27912352
Board is still being spammed with shitty single-digit reply threads about the anime

>>27902687

Could you possibly do a Scraggy MC with a Mienfoo partner for me? I'm at work currently, can't install it immediately so no rush.

>>27912895

I dunno, that actually sounds like a fun premise for a game. I'd play it.

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>>27909935
>Spends most of his time goofing around and makes you wonder how he came to be the guild leader
>When shit hits the fan he immediately takes charge and takes a plan of action
the parts where legendary pokemon immediately stopped fighting you as soon as Ampharos showed up, or when it turned out he had been preparing most of the surviving pokemon across the globe for a synchronised assault on the tree of life really did a good job of showing why he's a leader

>>27912984
I've just realized that the post might have been spoiling Super because final boss.

Here's reposting it:

"Okay it's time for shitty fanficiton tier plot for next PMD:
>you are summoned to the world of Pokemon as a human because your usual PMD shenanigans
>but wait, there's more humans-turned-Pokémon!
>all together, they represent all 18 types of Pokemon (this does not necessary equal to 18 humans because dual-types); you're the wild card of this human group
>suddenly Pokemon over the world are turning evil
>your job is to gather the gang and stop this
>suspicion about dark matter being behind all this intensifies
>but wait! your fellow humans also can be corrupted! you might end up having to fight. or try talking them out of it. depending on circumstances, it might work out
>you may or may not try to uncorrupt them if you feel like.
>whoever's still corrupt by the final boss battle will be his ally. most likely you will be fighting someone who used to be on your side
>oh by the way, it's not dark matter. but some malevolent pokemon. idk yveltal? he wasn't really villain in Super, but more of brainwashed death bird
rate and hate the cringe."

>>27913034
Sounds decent enough

I'd make one of the humans the main villain instead. I think Explorers done all they could with pokemon villains, and Gates/Super with eldritch entities.

>>27912895
>>27913034
no negativity/10
That means it's good.

>>27913092
You would still have SOME eldritch something, because there's no way a human can turn Pokémon/humans evil without Corruption Energy.™

Also, for reference about talking them out. You are the last one to come, and it's been a while. Some of the humans have already formed bonds, and if you are lucky, you might be able to talk out them out of corruption.
This is because I was planning it going off the same thing as Dark Matter: the negativeness inside everybody - so you might try counteracting by bringing out the positive things. Whether it does work or not depends on the human themselves and your interactions with the world.

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>>27910415
thanks anon

>>27913183
To clarify further: This is obviously not going to work with everyone, you would have to fight some of them [you won't be able to save everyone; there just won't be enough time]. But if it's a human that got really attached to someone or whatever, you might make an opening that will make the whole uncorruption business easier. i know this is cliché as fuck but Super had a nice idea that with yveltal and co. being brainwashed into evulness went nowhere.

>>27913194
Might take a while though, because the AR code website went down not long after I posted that, and I don't exactly know where the SMD Pokemon IDs are located in NTR, so I can't edit it through there for now.
Once the site's back up I'll get it done.

>>27912763
Sure.

>>27913368

Thanks random anon, I really appreciate it!

>>27913368
Don't worry about it, I'm not in any rush. Thanks for helping other anons have their dream teams.

So, people are getting save edits working, huh? Can other things be added, or do we not know where the animations and portraits are stored? I could try to get something working for altered-starter runs, but only if I know how.

Hell, has anyone figured out the game's engine, what it's written in? My autism senses are tingling at the prospect of a fan game.

>>27913455
Upokecenter had some information about the older games (mostly Rescue Team and also a bit of Explorers).
http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/content/pokemon-mystery-dungeon-in-depth-guides.html
Unfortunately the site is down as the guy's up in loans. So here, have an archive.

There's even a move list for Rescue Team. Note that the last entries are fucked up: Shadow Ball and Crunch are listed as causing cringing while they actually lower Sp. Def. Additionally Charm + Bubble do not have their effects (Bubble lowers mov. speed; Charm works like Aurora Beam's secondary effect)

>>27878062
O fuck, really? I gotta get into this so I can build a team of my favorite shitmons

>>27913681
Not that anon, but yeah - everything can eventually git gud. Outside of Lv. 1 dungeons, at least - these are the most brutal dungeons where there is a list of good and bad Pokemon. They're among the last things you will tackle in each game, though.

I mean, I am using a freaking Azurill, a baby Pokemon, in my Rescue Team 100% run.

I've already cleared Western Cave. Twice, because fuck Mewtwo's recruiting not being recruitable on first run.

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haha, time for more suffering

Most of RT's music is pretty grating after long periods of time, so I replaced it with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_7bgBj8tBI.

I love the Mystery Dungeon series, but I haven't played one in years. I'm ready to get right into it.
Should i play Blue Rescue Team, Explorers of Sky, or Super? It's been so long that any of these would be a fresh experience.

New Pokemon announced at the Worlds. Prepare for nuke.

>>27914079
In that case, why not start with Blue then? That way it'll be easier to get into the upgraded mechanics of the sequels instead of the other way around.

>>27913614
Er, thanks, but I was thinking about Super. The engine was great, bar the non-move damage (why couldn't it be like Sky, where you could still hit people if you ran out of PP?), and it's got the current largest collection of Pokémon. I realize it's a long shot, but still, I'd rather like to try. I wonder how difficult it would be to use the engine, but change things up so that Pokèmon could be recruited the old way? Probably near-impossible, but might be interesting to try...

>>27914711
Oh, I see.

Super's engine is closer to main series (ie. Pursuit and Future Sight are actually offensive moves and not self-status moves).

>>27914087
Literally what the fuck is that Bewear pre-vo. It's going to take PMD a lot of effort to get me to like that ugly thing.

>>27915072
I like it, beyond the weird mouth

Am I the only one who likes to have a 4 man party instead of 3? Why did they change it back in super?

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>>27915555
I prefer a pair because anything more often leads to someone fucking off down a corridor and taking ages to loop back round and usually dying on the way back. Sometimes multiple times.

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>>27915555
Either way one of your two extras will probably be taking a break anyway.
Still think it was kind of a dumb decision on their part, especially when some plot dungeons allow you to go with a team of 7.

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>>27913763
>playing RT, where almost anymon is good
>decided to be a boring fuck and stuck with Turkey Warrior as my main
>get second thoughts
>can't change mains because there's almost nothing left to do in the game

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>>27913681
Pic related is my Sky Wooper. Unless you're trying something like Ditto, everything's usable

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I wish shockwave was still a long-range targeted attack instead of being a less-good thunderbolt

zap cannon being electric's only targeted ranged attack blows

>>27914813
Yes, that's true, but that still doesn't tell me how to make animations or portraits and add them.

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>Zangoose just spawned on that island
Uh. Okay. Never saw that before.

>>27916753
>zangoose woke up one day
>that puddle surrounding him cant be passed
>no way out
>all he can do is wait until someone puts him out of his misery

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>>27916514
It's good there's so many ways for pokemon to be viable in PMD.
>Multi-hit moves
>AoEs
>Room-wide attacks
>Team buff support
>Ability to sit in front and facetank for your snipers
pick any one of these and you have a good mon
pick multiple and you have a god-tier mon

>>27916635
we need a team for this.

i mean, full release of am2r did happen.

>>27916910
Or
>have unburden
>instantly shoot past ubers

>>27917017
I never got round to levelling up Drifblim and giving it hyper beam and a barrage emera and witnessing the ensuing destruction

I should do that

>>27917050
That won't work. Either you have Barrage Emera, or Unburden. You can't use both

>>27917072
horseshit

>>27917091
Using an emera requires holding an item, remember. If you want to see shit like that, put Sunflora in the sun and spam Solarbeam/Hyperbeam

>>27917120
yeah, I forgot how unburden works

>>27892062
I'm pretty sure most people hated him, at least on 4chan, since hating edgy designs is trendy here. I like both him and edgy designs though. I don't really care about the anime, but Ash losing like this is pathetic. What were they thinking?

>>27911305
No, but I changed the code. Does anyone have the picture or should I screenshot it?

>absolutely nothing for 1.88 runs
>suddenly three King's Rocks, two Moon Stones, and a Leaf Stone
OK

If Jirachi gives me Politoed or Slowking now I'm going to be 200% mad.

>>27892446
What are the addresses to change them in Super again?

>>27892642
And Riolu.

>>27893057
You have nothing to be scared of, it's never going to happen.

>>27911248
It doesn't, it's one of the random ones. Have you never noticed it before?

>>27911305
I posted the edited script a few threads ago and explained how to use it, so that you can get a female Pikachu in the European (and probably American) version.

>>27917261
How did you change it? Did you use the list? It's kind of weird since there are (at least) two values Pikachu, but it's not what you'd expect it to be like. If you set it to female, then 01 is female and the other one is male. I guess there might be no actual difference after all, I just thought it was weird.

>>27917666
>You have nothing to be scared of, it's never going to happen.

Well satan, either way i have to wait until a 11.0 explot is found that doesn't involve hardmodding

>>27904354
I think we should merge it with http://pastebin.com/kh7GcnYm, suggest to follow Plailect's guide if possible and add links to the stuff they'd need to change the starters manually (addresses and values), so that the entire thing is complete.

Started playing Red Rescue Team again, and holy shit
>Must reform team after every dungeon
>Can't take others for the fugitive run

Who thought these were good ideas? Especially if you use the Magnemite, who'll get so far behind in levels it isn't even funny.
(Also, are the mandatory team members not supposed to do anything vs. Zapdos? Even with a different tactic, they seem to just stay in their starting position without doing anything at all)

>>27917790
The second one is also a problem in Explorers, I'm glad they fixed it in GtI and Super

>>27917897
I wonder why it took them so long to fix an obvious mistake like that. I mean, why even allow recruiting that early if you are going to pull shit like this?

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>>27917641
FUCK

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>>27918017

>>27918017
At least it's not Unown

>>27917897
>>27917974
It's a narrative vs gameplay thing. In Explorers, you two are the only ones who get kidnapped, so it makes no sense to bring anyone else along (on top of being another nicely-timed rise of the difficulty curve). It's less justified in Rescue, but at the same time, feeling like your own recruits had turned against you is certainly in line with the emotional effect they were going for (and then meeting Absol has a stronger impact too).

>>27918642
Hmm, true. Though for some reason, I can't imagine Magnemite joining the ranks of your enemies.

>Trying to get through Mt. Blaze as a Bulbasaur with no Reviver Seeds

Now this is hell alright

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>>27918323
>>27918418
>there's still at least 5 Wish Cave runs ahead of me
Nothing will ever be fine.

>>27916929
Well, I could get started, and maybe recruit a team, if someone would just GIVE ME THE DAMN ENGINE! Or give me a way to make portraits or animations, I'm not too fussy.

>>27919223
Didn't you have leaf stones?

i am not sure if it would be easier just to YOLO into howlnig forest.
>>27919242
Someone was making Explorers' style portraits. Spriters resourcers has animations from Rescue Team, weirdly sorted.

http://www.spriters-resource.com/game_boy_advance/pokemonmysterydungeonredrescueteam/

idk about engine, heard it's as fragile as jenga tower.

>>27917666
>It doesn't, it's one of the random ones. Have you never noticed it before?

It's been my title screen the last 6 times I've turned it on, it's not random.

>>27919770
>Didn't you have leaf stones?
Just the one I obtained just now. I used it to get Vileplume.

>i am not sure if it would be easier just to YOLO into howlnig forest.
Can't hurt to give it seven or so tries, I guess. That's about the same as climbing 99 floors, right?

>>27919770
Just bumrush Howling Forest. Bring along a Starmie maybe to tank hits, as well as a one room orb

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>>27919770
>talking about making a game with Super's engine
>"Oh, here's Sky's engine!"
>no, anon, I want the Super engine
>"Say no more, here's the rescue team engine!"
>mfw

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I already miss electrosheep

>>27920246
Diff anon, but why would you want to make a game with Super's engine?

Don't get me wrong, I get that the little quality of life stuff is nice, but the whole game just feels clunky. Input-laggy, even. It's an issue I've had with all the 3D MDs I've played - Gates, Etrian, this. It's another one of those little things that makes Super harder for me to want to go back to.

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>3 runs later
>only saw one Exeggcute
>and one sleeping Pochi
I'm all for the old RNG recruitment method, but stuff like this makes it hard to defend.

>>27920246
>an engine is composed of sprites
All of the games except AS are getting reverse engineered, try to help with that or wait until modding tools are available. GtI and Super seem to be easier to mod at least, but RT and Explorers have more documentation.

>>27921306
imo the old method is better even then compared to the whole "You only get one of these" thing. Honestly the only thing making me iffy on getting Super.

>tfw Damp means no Blast Seeds

shit

>>27921518
Super's "one-of-everything" does suck, but it had the right idea of changing up the tasks required to recruit this and that. It makes for a much more varied and entertaining game to 100% compared to RT's constant floor camping and EXP grinding.

>>27890278

is there not an orb that stops everything moving? can you not teach a pokemon agility? can you not bring a couple mach orbs?

I knew Stone Tree Mountain was going to be tough but I didn't expect it to be that hard with 255 stats on both my partner and me. Earthquake spam from Sandlash was 2 hitting Lucario and 3-4 hitting Swampert. They both have around 150 hp.

Do you have any tips to make this dungeon easier? Thank you.

>>27921923
>limited to 3 items only except for equipped slot
agility is the only option, but it's still annoying

>>27921518
The major problem with the Connection Orb isn't so much how you can only get one of each (which is a problem, don't get me wrong), but how it serves to make the process of getting new Pokemon more linear. The whole "web of connections" thing is a nice idea on paper, but in practice I just felt like it was constantly locking way more Pokemon away behind an invisible wall rather than giving you a lot of potential options and you just had to have the RNG on your side to recruit them.

Like... like, in Drenched Bluff in Explorers, you can recruit Anorith, Lileep, Shellos and Chingling. In Mt. Bristle, you have five Pokemon you have a decent chance of recruiting and then Nidorino and Nidorina, which have a lower chance. In two dungeons, you have eleven Pokemon that you could potentially recruit. Even if I'm not into recruitment in general, that sounds a lot more appealing and open-ended to me than "do a mission in order to unlock this character", which makes the whole game feel like a checklist. Maybe Super was more varied, but it wasn't engaging, either.

That said, raising the recruitment rate in the older games also poses the problem of constantly having your exploration interrupted every time you defeat an enemy and it wants to join you, so who knows what the best solution would be. Regardless, I hope they go back to the old system in the next game.

If there's one thing I hope, it's that they never try to really "justify" recruitment the way they tried in Super. Recruitment's always been pretty glossed over story-wise, and it doesn't make much sense when placed in context with everything else except maybe in Rescue Team, so I feel like Super had its priorities mixed up there too.

>>27922207
The old method could probably be "fixed" by giving you the recruitment rate boost items earlier, or maybe just make some seeds that boost the recruitment rate of a pokemon that ingests the seed, or... I dunno.
What's your opinion on Friend Areas, though? I kind of liked them, it was sad that they discarded the concept so early. Imo it didn't complicate the recruitment all that much.

>>27917772
I'll merge it then. Would probably help reduce clutter in the OP too, by not adding an extra link.

Also the site's back up, which means I can finally do Mareep/NidoF and Scraggy/Mienfoo. Sorry about the holdup.

>Wooper waved the Pounce Wand?

How?

>>27922424
Same way it throws Ice Punch around, I guess.

>>27922424
Through the power of the universe

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>>27922424
>Wooperanon will never hold hands with his partner
How can he live?

>tfw scarves wont show up

can mods fix this

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>>27922645
Nope. They're modeled differently depending on the starter (like Totodile wearing it backwards like a bowtie instead) which is why it doesn't show up on customs.
I would've gave a shit if the scarves had a better color. I just imagined Jigglypuff wearing a white scarf on her head like a ribbon instead.

>>27922317
If anything I think that recruitment made the most sense in Rescue Team simply because it didn't seem like rescue teams or anything had much... "supervision"? So just having random folks join your team made sense. By comparison, grabbing random Pokemon off the street made the whole Guild thing in Explorers feel weird, and it's the same thing with the Society in Super. So the writing-y side of me likes Rescue best.

As for gameplay, though, Friend Areas are fun, but I definitely think they could be designed better. It's annoying to have to sort through multiple recruits in the same area (especially since I never nicknamed when I was younger), and having to go from area to area to get your whole team ready was a small pain that added up over time. If anything, what I'd like to see is a mix of it and Explorers: use the list system that Explorers had in the "main city", and have the friend areas be smaller "towns" that act like Spinda's Cafe, letting you feed your recruits Gummis and things or having the occasional extra mission from one of your folks like you could get in the cafe. It'd be similar to Super, of course, but based it around the Friend Areas instead of five set towns, and making it based on recruitment, would feel like a better encouragement to recruit more and more Pokemon.

>>27922799
Rescue Teams really did lack "supervision" or something. I mean, how else did Team Meanies manage to become a rescue team? Though given the fugitive scene in RT, either Gengar didn't choose Charisma as the dumpstat, or everyone is just stupid, I guess.

But your suggestion could work. I was thinking something akin to "When you select a person to visit, it gives you two options, "Visit", and "Join team"", so if you only wanted to switch them in, you'd save a lot of time.

>>27922963
Yeah, something like that seems like a good compromise. You'd have the benefits of the immediacy of a menu with none of the old drawbacks, and you'd have the benefits of the visual variety of the Friend Areas with none or very few of the old drawbacks.

>>27923057
The only real problem I can think of with Friend Areas is the possibility of one getting too crowded, but no idea of how to solve that one, except maybe making every FA consist of more than one room. Then have something like a sign telling you what Pokemon reside in which room, saving the time otherwise used for looking through every room to find that one specific Pokemon.

>>27922207
See, all I want is a proper justification. Personal headcanon is that aggressive dungeon Pokémon are "feral," and are made such by the influence of the Mystery Dungeon itself. Dungeons are symptoms of the world falling apart, vampiric little pocket dimensions that latch onto our world but aren't 100% bound by our physics, hence randomization and emeras. Minds simply aren't built to handle that for too long, so they break under the strain; a recruited Pokémon is one who's not quite broken, who manages to refrain from harming you (too much) with what sanity they have, and who can heal from the dungeon's influence.
>inb4 "EDGY"

Mareep+NidoranF and Scraggy+Mienfoo have been uploaded.
https://mega.nz/#F!ZsYRgCwL!e6LYqEDwQ_0b8wLnM0rS5Q

I'll rewrite the guide to merge the .cia downloads and update it to include CFW-related stuff.

>>27923209
Didn't Explorers basically confirm all of that anyway? Could've sworn the partner gave an infodump at one point talking about the universe being fucked up, causing dungeons to appear and Pokemon to go feral/crazy.

>>27923213

I love you anon, thanks for the Scraggy/Mienfoo run. Now, how to install it...

>>27920246
>rescue team engine
where

also is that an actual line? i don't remember

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>>27923258
Chatot basically explains when you first join the Guild that time has been going out of whack and that's why mystery dungeons have started appearing. Combined with the idea that they start appearing in Rescue Team when (un?)natural disasters start happening, I always liked to think that it was basically nature's response to the laws of nature being a shit.

>>27923209
Though I've always just ignored recruitment writing-wise and just considered it a gameplay thing and nothing else. The idea of sapient Pokemon living their lives in little houses and towns while wild Pokemon still exist and are a real danger while traveling feels like an interesting take on the fantasy setting to me. don't get me started talking about this i've written and been a dumb nerd about this subject far too much

>>27923419
Wrote up the guide a bit earlier.
It's a bit rough around the edges and incomplete since it doesn't talk about how to edit starters yourself if you have CFW, but you should be able to install it simply by following it.
http://pastebin.com/9146PLgH

>>27923470

Alright then, thanks m80

>>27923470
I'm gonna throw that guide in with the other guides

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>didn't use an oran berry or a reviver seed

outskilled

>>27923154
That's definitely something, but I imagine you could probably easily solve it as "you can recruit at least one of each Pokemon that is available in the friend area, plus a few more". So like, an area with the Torchic line, Vulpix line and Torkoal would have three, two, and one, so you could have at least six recruits in there, plus, say... four extra slots just in case. So ten. That's a really small example, but you get the idea.

What about buying the friend areas, though? Would you just unlock them by recruiting a new Pokemon of that area, or would you have to spend money to buy them first? I can definitely see the flaws of buying them, but I still can't help but like it as a money-sink. As long as you dutifully save up, money stops meaning a lot in PMD after a little while.

>>27924248
That could work, too. On the subject of buying Friend Areas, I'm not sure. I kind of like the buying aspect, but something like "Recruiting a pokemon belonging to FA x unlocks said FA" could work as well. Or maybe make them mission rewards, or would that not be good?

>>27922317
The old method was already fixed in GtI with gifts.

>>27924441
Going up in rank gives you FAs maybe?

>>27924487
I haven't played GtI aside from the demo, can you tell me more?

>>27924506
This could work as well, depending entirely on the selection of dungeons and their residents.

>>27924573
There's a gift system in Gates. You swap some items you don't need in exchange for a gift (for example, Azurill's gift requires 2 plain seeds), and then bring it to a dungeon. When you encounter the Pokemon you want, use the item on them and they instantly join your team.

>>27924441
Mission rewards might work, but then it might run into the problem of figuring out which mission unlocks which area, which would be a bit iffy. Unlocking them by recruiting new Pokemon seems like it might work best - you get the excitement of having recruited a new member, while also making you feel some anticipation about what the place might be. You'll know that it'll be "fire, water, grassy" from the type, of course, but will it be a grassy Beau Plains or will it be more of a Forest? That kind of deal.

>>27924651
>instantly join

Huh. Not sure about that one. Hmm...
What about making it so that each type has a gift, opposed to every pokemon, and then giving a gift gives a nice boost, but not make it a 100% success?

>>27924728
I think they can still decline your gift, but it's supposedly rare.

>>27924727
Now that I think of it, I have to agree with you on that one.

>>27924743
Is that so? Then it could maybe work if you turn up the decline rate, or something, not sure.

>>27924728
There are both gifts by type and by Pokémon, and one that works with everyone. The ones that are Pokémon-specific can be bought at the store, the type-specifc ones are rare and can be obtained by ranking up.

>>27924777
Well, I guess with that, the system could work with just a tweak to the rate of declining, or something.

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Is this okay for now, or are there any more starter combinations people want?

Just went with basic combos and what people requested in the thread, but if there's any more combinations people want I'll get it done.

>>27922055
Orbs, wands, running away if you enter a room with sandslash on the other side

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>>27923213
awesome, thanks anon
now I can make my team of endless room AoE death

Hopefully it doesn't take me too long to find Blizzard and Sludge Bomb TMs for Nidoran since Mareep isn't learning Discharge until postgame

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BROTHER

>>27925588
>Budew, Igglybuff, Wooper
Where's Smoochum

>>27925607
Probably off fucking around in Zero Isle East

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>>27925158
I'll suggest Riolu/Vulpix. Seems like it wouldn't be that hard, given Riolu's a starter and you've done Vulpix before.

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4 more to go. It's hot af where I'm at right now, so I'll probably finish Oddish by tomorrow or so. I need to cool off.

>>27925818
Alright. Got Riolu+Vulpix done.
Almost all of the files in that list use Totodile+Tepig as the base, so the player can use Ice Fang and the partner has (early) access to Flamethrower. Resetting the game and going through the first three dungeons just to give Riolu his original moves would've taken a while, so hopefully you won't mind.

>>27926084
Is the third dungeon roughly the point where the starter's movelists correct themselves?

>>27926141
You can correct the moveset yourself after you unlock Hawlucha.

>>27926141
After testing it around for a while, the starters' abilities get fixed when you reboot the game after swapping starters. The moves they get through levelup and Hawlucha will be the new/modded one, only their base movesets come from the original starter choices.
Base stats are also from the original starter choices, but at an early level the difference is minimal/nonexistent.

>>27926174
How does that work, exactly?

gonna make a new thread, clean up the OP for once too

>>27926264
make it a good cute op image

>>27926292
Tried my best to do that while also showing off starter editing. New thread

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