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ITT: Fakemon that has better execution of a concept

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>>27650802
Nope
Left looks like a digimon
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The fakemon is a cool design, but it is certainly not a better concept.

The realmon is a sand mimic. The fakemon is just a sandcastle that becomes humanoid.
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The last one doesnt even look like a sand caslte
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>>27650814
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>>27650802
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It has angry eyes that means it's better
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>>27650802
Please, the real one looks gorillion times better than the fake fanart. I love sandcastle so much.
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>>27650802
Left doesn't even look like a sandcastle.

>>27650860
Fuck off.
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>>27650842
Imagine the final fakemon evolution to be buried under the sand so only its head is seen. It is a mimic.
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>>27650802
>fat digimon that has a castle on his head

>literal sandcastle at first glance that is actually a ghost that sucks in pokemon.

Yeah nah
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>>27650860
Your point? That looks like a Pokemon to me. Not enough unnecessary details added to it to be a digimon. Try again.
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>>27650893
>Imagine the final fakemon evolution to be buried under the sand so only its head is seen
I don't think that's what the artist had in mind.
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>>27650912
>sandcastle at first glance that is actually a ghost
The problem is that you can replace the sandcastle in your sentence with any object.
GameFreak already did this with chandelier, swords, dolls, balloons, sarcophagus, fridge, lawn mower, oven and fan.
Next gen:
>car at first glance that is actually a ghost
>house at first glance that is actually a ghost
>panties at first glance that is actually a ghost
>toilet at first glance that is actually a ghost
The peak of creativity!
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>>27650912
>forgetting that it sucks kids too
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>>27651115
Literally nothing wrong with specters possessing a miscellaneous item.
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>>27651115
>sandcastle at first glance that is actually a ghost
>It's a haunted castle trope
>Lures people in and then absorbs them into an antlion hole
Don't simplify things, anon.
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>>27650893
Except it has a stupid face. Sandcastlemon has a face, but it's subtle as heck, which is what I'd expect from something that is attempting to mimic a sandcastle.
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>>27651115
>car at first glance that is actually a ghost
>not wanting to catch Christine
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>>27650802
when Fakemon looks better than Pokemon
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>>27650802
>Better execution
Keep telling yourself that.
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>>27651215
>it's a "I don't know what a Digimon looks like so I'll just call anything that isn't an animal a Digimon" shitpost
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>>27651215
>I don't know what the Pokemon is based off of
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>>27651265
>>27650814
Tell me why one is a digimon and the other isn't.
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>>27651308
Neither of them look like a Digimon you throbbing retard.
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>>27651115
>toilet at first glance that is actually a ghost
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanako-san
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>>27650802
Sandblob on the right is cooler, because it can change its shape and turn into a quicksand pit to drown prey. Also it's a Ghost type, and I just like the amorphous mass look better.
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>>27651215
> Another "I don't understand its origin" episode
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>>27651115
>toilet at first glance that is actually a ghost
>The peak of creativity!
You realize that this is a common urban legend in Japan, right? I'm surprised they haven't done a bathroom ghost sooner. Could be Ghost/Poison or Ghost/Water.
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>>27650802
Doesn't look like a Ghost type at all.
Ground-->Ground/Steel-->Ground
Bucket appears from nowhere then is gone in last stage?

Also, terrible feet on last two stages.
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>>27651215
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You guys are gonna be so mad when the reveal the Steel/Ghost beach umbrella
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>>27651457
>Doesn't look like a Ghost type at all.
That's because it's Ground/Water.
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>>27651377
we know what its based off of and it still looks like shit

>if its based off of something then its automatically good!

great argument. the inspiration is more aesthetically pleasing and well proportioned than this mess
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>>27651475
>simple and clean
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>>27650802
>the final evolution has to look edgy!
Fuck off
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>>27650802
>better execution of a concept
>a sandcastle with legs
How?
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>>27651308
>>27651215
And I love Digimon but this picture is accurate.
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>>27650802
>Ignoring concept art of it trapping Pikachu
Clearly this is meant for hazard play. Lots of Fakemon designs are almost always designed to be offensive sweepers, all arounders or tanks.
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>>27651501
>a design features elements it of the various things it draws from to successfully communicate its design since that's the entire point of any Pokemon to begin with
>doing what it is meant to do makes it bad
(you)
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>>27651619
Only some digimon actually become mechanical when they digivolve.

Also since digimon are data that means they can become virtually anything.
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>>27651588
it looks more like lucario than the real one, which makes it better
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>>27651654
Some aren't mechanical, but cyborgs in a sense.
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>>27651408
If it is a urban legend or not is not relevant. It is just lazy designing making everything possessed by a ghost.
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>>27651115

>http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HauntedCastle
>http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FallingChandelierOfDoom
> tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CreepyDoll
>Urban legends of balloons carrying children away + Hitodama from japanese mythology
>http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SealedEvilInACan + Undead Mummies
>http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HauntedTechnology


>Post at first glance is worth reading
The problem is that you're can replace the ignorance in your sentence with any opinion.
Genwunners already did this with every pokemon announced since gen 2.
Next gen
>People complaining about pokemon that don't match what they wanted.
>People complaining about pokemon that are based on things they don't know about
>People complaining about pokemon that aren't from generation I.
>People complaining about people complaing.
The peak of shitposting!
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>>27651571
Did you say edgy?
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>>27651715
>something isn't relevant to me
m.. muh self importance!
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>>27651774
delete this! gen 6 was based!
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>>27651774
All I see is Darkonda's vest on his chest.
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>>27651715
It's completely relevant. See: Dunsparce. I bet you think Dark type refers to literal darkness too, don't you?
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>>27651871
I bet you think Ghost type refers to literal urban legends too, don't you?
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>>27651945
Haven't heard a rebuttal / comeback of that caliber since primary school. Thanks anon.
Not just nostalgic for childhood pokemon I see.
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>>27651619
Pic related is more accurate.
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>>27650860
>>27651215
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>>27652086
I thought it is fitting for a kids game.
You are welcome.
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>>27651945
Shitposters are out in droves today.
Ghost type means what it very obviously means; spectral, spooky lads etc.
Most ghosts that could be made into a Pokemon are haunted [thing], which is great because Pokemon are used to portray the region's culture so you can make use of the Ghost type to explain that something is from the now displaced culture of the region from the olden days. Like Aegislash hearkening to knights or Chandelure to decadence and Stone Masons clubs. Ghosts can also infer perils and old wives tales. Haunted Houses are a cool idea and it's good to package it in a silly way to give young kids from any background an easy in to start figuring out Pokemon concepts.

Plus, the aren't enough Ghosts to draw from that have something visual to make use of. Sure, Poltergeists are literally just invisible forces that throw things, et.c.
What would you make, a spooky shadow with sunglasses or something? Do you know how designing works or how much goes into a Pokemon design? They're meticulously put together, whether you know how to actually gauge a design or not and your hot opinions can't change that. Maybe learn a thing or two before spouting nonsense with assumed authority.
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>>27651670
It looks like an Ursaring with down syndrome that just rolled around in a beach.
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>>27650802
you start OP
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>>27652148
>explain that something is from the now displaced culture of the region from the olden days
The old culture of Alola is shaped by making sand castles then?
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>>27652115
Terrible
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>>27652228
Did you read half my post and decide to shitpost? I literally explained the sandcastle in the next sentence.
Fucking retard.
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>A sandman that becomes human

>An Antlion in the form of a Sandcastle
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>>27650802
Nothing about the left one implies its a ghost
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>>27652287
>Like Aegislash hearkening to knights or Chandelure to decadence and Stone Masons clubs.
How does this explain that Alolas culture is based on sand castles?
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>>27651115
>cat at first glance that is actually a cat!
The peak of creativity!
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>>27650814
Nope. Right looks more like a Digimon.
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>>27652333
Because sand=islands retard.
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>>27651485
Then it's not the same concept.
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>>27652333
>Haunted Houses are a cool idea and it's good to package it in a silly way to give young kids from any background an easy in to start figuring out Pokemon concepts.
Literally the next line. Fucking Americans, why can't you read?
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>>27652348
So basically all Island cultures mythology is about Sand Castles?

Can you point me to some folklore about sandcastles then?
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>>27652371
Folklore = haunted castles
Localize to island setting and add fun twist for kids game= Sand Castles
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>>27652341
You can be creative without making up things. Making a sandcastle possessed by a ghost is a dumb idea.
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>>27651215
>being this retarded
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OP is gr8 at b8 or actually 12.
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>>27652115

Looks great. I love all my Pokémon to be fucking boring. Anything else is a Digimon.
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>>27652429

>Making a sandcastle possessed by a ghost is a dumb idea.
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>>27652361
No, the next line is
>Ghosts can also infer perils and old wives tales
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>>27650802
That final evolution on the left looks so fucking stupid I would have been ashamed to have drawn it.
Try again OP
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>>27652451
Where are the spikes and the curly things?
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good job at choking new zealand
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>>27652429
I really like how people enter a thread, post informed and intelligent analyses of a Pokemon design called into question and other posters ignore all of them and post
>lolno it's bad because and I won't acknowledge those posts
The threads are here for discussion, you're supposed to read the whole thing before you post.
The post above yours >>27652423
explains it pretty succinctly and myself and some other anon have made longer posts spelling it out.

>>27652483
That's the next sentence, mate. And it actually is the explanation for the sandcastle anyway, the next line is just a follow-up to that for idiots who can't figure it out for themselves.
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>>27652456
Both :v)
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>>27651715
As opposed to recoloring animals? Fuck off.
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>>27652423
So basically you had to connect two completely unrelated things and make a massive leap of logic to defend the choice?

Cool. I want you to tell me the worst most terrible idea for a Pokemon ever, and I'll make it my misson to somehow ensure that it gets made into one, just to prove it's possible.

Keep it G Rated though, I'm not going to let you get away with asking for a Dildo Pokemon just because you don't want it becoming real and want an easy win
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New thread objective
Posting relevant fakemons that look as stupid as OP is acting.
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>>27652355
Exactly. The OP is just an idiot.
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>>27652585
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>>27652603
The concept is living sandcastle. How does it need to be a ghost?
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>>27652510
Runes appear on an active golem.
The spikes are presumably from it's secondary motif as living warrior's armor (presumably intended to reference a Gelgoog's shoulder pauldrons and helmet specifically).
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>>27652510
The curly symbols are probably supposed to be similar to Hebrew letters.
Complaining about the spikes is just nitpicking
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>>27652584
That guy was following up on my post because you're clearly the kind of person who needs to have something simplified to such extremes that it takes a whole day to explain it to them.

There are no completely unrelated things. The Sandcastle is a haunted house/castle but it's a sandcastle because, guess what, there are sandcastles on beaches. It's a funny take on the concept and it makes a haunted house pokemon possible. It also makes a future regional form of it as a doll house possible - which would also e really cool.

The fact you've needed it explained to you this many times is worrying, you may need to kill yourself.
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>>27652640
Because it isn't supposed to be an actual sandcastle just something mimicking it which ghosts are known to do.
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>>27650860
Why the fuck has there been a rise is Golurk hate? Like is it just one samefag?

Same with HGSS too
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>>27652640
Are you really this dense or are you just arguing for company?

The Fakemon is a sandcastle golem. The realmon is a mimic disguised as a sandcastle.
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>>27652714
HGSS hate has always been a thing. It's just more vocal now because leaks are coming out which means it's cool to hate games again
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>>27652714
Just pointing out that it looks like a Digimon isn't hating it.
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>>27652693
I don't care anymore.
Tell me the worst possible Pokemon design you can think of so I can make it real.

This is the only way I can ever prove to you idiots that there are objectively bad idea being passed along.
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>>27652731
>Chandelure is a mimic disguised as a chandelier.
The ghost aren't mimicking, they possessed the objects. Learn the difference.
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>>27652786
Make a mantis and give it a dinosaur head
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>>27652786
How are you so stupid.
Do you really just not understand design?
There's no such thing as a bad concept, there is bad execution though.
A pokemon can be based on any number of things, what matters is it properly communicates the atmosphere and/or culture of the region it appears in.

You're not allowed to be this stupid, it's frankly a level of retardation that should require a lobotomy.

>>27652874
I like you, you're good at posts.
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>>27652584
Adding an unrelated representation of a type is essentially how a bunch of dual type pokemon are designed..
Lightning(Electric) + Bird(Flying) = Zapdos,
Fossil(Rock) + Pterodactyl(Flying) = Aerodactyl
Mantis(Bug) + Plated Armor(Steel) = Scizor
Fish(Water) + Stoney texture(Rock) = Relicanth
Haunted Castle(Ghost) +Sand(Ground) = New Pokemon
etc
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>>27652853
Just because the sandcastle is a mimic doesn't mean that every ghost type is a mimic.

Stop shitposting.
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>>27652874
>Mantis
>Dinosaur head

Any specific typing I have to aim for?

>>27652892
>>27652898
I don't care.
Tell me the worst Pokemon design you could ever think of so I can make it a reality.

A decade
Two decades
Three decades
Four decades
Half a Century.

I don't care as long as I can prove to you the truth
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>>27652786
make a pokeball mimic
or a dinosaur with a really big tongue
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>>27652786
>I don't care anymore.
You clearly care enough to argue your case. Retard.
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>>27652915
It's not a mimic, it's a haunted house.

Stop shitposting

>>27652939
>Tell me the worst Pokemon design you could ever think of
just explained how that doesn't make sense. Go to bed, lil Jimmy
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>>27652939
Bug/flying :^)
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>>27652915
Pic related is a mimic with no ghost type. Why does one mimic needs a ghost type and the other not? because the sandcastle is not a mimic, it is possessed.
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>>27652939
>P.. Please let me prove myself /vp/! I a lowly shitposter who nobody agrees with am secretly a genius.
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>>27651475
I wish we had a black cat Pokémon
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>>27650802
pottery
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>>27653035
anon....
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>>27652973
>>27652997
I'm running short on (You)s so you two will just have to share.
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>>27652939
Make an infant human zombie that lives in space and shoots laser beams of its eyes. It is Dragon/Bug type.
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>>27652950
Those already exist.
I shall strive to make "variants" for the new region.

Any typing in particular?

>>27652952
>>27652999
>>27652973

I do not care anymore. Tell me the worst possible design and idea for a Pokemon so that I may make it real

>>27652995
A Bug/Flying Mantis with a Dinosaur head.
I just realized you're talking about Scyther.
Was that your intention?
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>>27653074
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>>27653040
>inb4 purrloin
It isn't a black cat
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>>27653074
Jesus Christ you're pathetic.

>I just realized you're talking about Scyther.
Was that your intention?
Oh wow. You're worse than I thought.
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>>27653101
new meowth
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>>27653101
black meowth or litten?
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>>27653116
>blue is the new black
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>>27653074
Maybe
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>>27653074
Make human who's been turned into a human shaped pokemon.
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>>27653071
>Infant Human Zombie
Does it specifically have to BE an Infant Human Zombie or can it simply just look like one? If I just have to make it look like one, that's fine but if it has to say Infant Human Zombie somewhere the Gamefreak censors won't let it fly.

>>27653094
>>27653111
I do not care. Tell me the worst possible Pokemon design and theme you could imagine and I shall make it real.

A century.
A millennium
An Aeon

I shall make it so
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>>27653123
>litten
>black
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>>27653132
>Human who has been turned into a Human shaped Pokemon

Do you have a specific typing it must have?
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>>27653074
Can you make a dragon that's orange and can fly but isn't a dragon
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>>27653146
>Noun
>color
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>>27653136
Of course it looks like one.
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>>27653160
Human
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>>27652786
>Tell me the worst possible Pokemon design you can think of so I can make it real.
A Kasha Pokemon found in the Pokemon equivalent region of Antarctica.

The thing about Shirodesuna is that it just really makes creative sense given everything that we currently know about Alola.
There's been a large emphasis on it's ecosystem being shaped a certain way that in turn affects how the Pokemon that live there find ways to thrive. Because of the abundant natural beaches of the islands, a ghost Pokemon pretending to be a sandcastle built by a random beach-goer and left there makes for a pretty clever predatory mechanism, since you wouldn't anticipate the danger until it's too late.
If this were any other generation, it'd be a horrible idea; but the timing and execution happens to mesh quite well with the overarching regional narrative they've been building.
If you're the type of person that prefers when a design can stand without context, that's fine; but don't go presenting your personal feelings on design philosophy as if it were objective, when "context is key" is just as valid as a school of thought.
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>>27653136
can you make a horse that's on fire, when it evolves it gets bigger
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>>27653058
>Pokemon is blatantly a haunted castle
>a concept that could never be a Pokemon on its own
>is made a sandcastle to make it work
>it's incredibly obvious
No need to make ironic shitposts just because you got corrected/neglected to read the litany of posts explaining it thoroughly earlier in the thread.

>>27653074
I was skeptical at first, I thought you were just a pathetic troll guy, but now it's scarily obvious that you're some twelve year old with aspergers on Summer Vacation using his mom's iPhone to shitpost on 4chan. You're an actual example of all of the staple, juvenile 4chan insults... And you're real. You exist...
Get >>>/out/
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>>27652997
Because the sandcastle is a ghost possessing sand while Voltorb is a pokeball with eyes
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>>27653203
I mean it could work, maybe in Kalos.
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>>27653171
Your wish is not possible then. I set the rule that it must be a Pokemon that can get by the censors and while I could strive to get a Pokemon that looks like a Human Infant Zombie but if it be called the Human Infant Zombie Pokemon, it shall not pass.

>>27653187
You shall HAVE your bowl of Buckwheat.

>>27653177
Very well. You've made this too easy by not banning me from using the Ghost Type, but it is too late now.

>>27653203
I do not care.
Tell me the worst possible Pokemon design you can ever imagine so that I may make it so. A Reminder that it must be G Rated, you are not allowed to demand a Dildo Pokemon to try and make an unwinnable situation

Also for all you guys out there that keep posting description of Gen 1 Pokemon, Gen 1 isn't even my favorite gen and I dislike a lot of designs from it too.
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>>27652997

You might actually be retarded.

The sandcastle isn't a mimic because it's a Ghost-type, it's a mimic because IT USES MIMICRY TO CATCH PREY.
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>>27653267
how about a pinecone then?
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>>27653272
Why is it a ghost type then?
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>>27653267
a dog on its hind legs with spikes jutting out all over its body
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>>27650802
I like every part of the fake line except the final evo. I don't like how it's walking around or how the only thing resembling a sandcastle is the top of its head.
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>>27653267
>According to old tales, these Pokémon are stumps possessed by the spirits of children who died while lost in the forest.
If pic related passes the "censors" you mention then the human infant zombie should too. Just don't call it that way.
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>>27653272
You know what could have salvaged this shit design?

If it was a ghost mimic that just didn't mimic sand castles to catch it's prey. A ghost type Pokemon that changed it's appearence depending on where you find it.

On the Beach it's a Sandcastle.
In the Jungle it's a Tiki Hut
In the mountain it's a tiny Cabin.

>>27653358
Ah! I was misunderstanding you. I thought you said I HAD to call it the human infant zombie Pokemon. Your wish shall be done.
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>>27653307
Because it's a ghost, you retard.

Pokemon can have more than one design origin.
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>>27653333
It is buried under the sand so only its head is visibel. It is hard for it to maintain its full body form because it is huge and made of sand.
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>>27653251
I dunno, maybe there are enough similar things to pull from to justify a little, stone one but I don't know of any. Sand castle is funnier anyway.
I hope they do an Ireland/England region soon (where you start in either country depending on the version, for a fresh change) and they do an [England] form doll house with it. There's so much to work with, I like it more and more with every post.

>>27653267
Alright, fine.
Make a Pokemon that's a Pokemon disguised as a Pokemon that shitposts on /vp/ using its mom's iPhone and doesn't understand surface level concepts, but is also Ron Howard from Happy Days as a squirrel who drives a dune buggy on Wednesdays, but not Saturdays because he like to unwind then with a glass of petrol while watching Dance Moms and thinking about the good old times.
Make it now, as well.

>>27653272
How is it a mimic? Why would it be a ghost is it was a mimic sand castle? Why are you trying so hard to to push this when the far more obvious and more logical "haunted castle that's a sand castle - KAWAII, SUGOI DE SU NE?" has been suggested, discussed in depth and just makes 100 times more sense?
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>>27653390
Neat headcanon.
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>>27653374
It's a Ghost/Ground type pokemon.

What you're describing is pretty much just a building version of rotom which you said you hated earlier.
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>>27653446
I never said I hated Rotom. You're confusing me for someone else.

>>27653406
You are not taking this seriously. You simply made a bunch on unreachable goals to defend yourself.

Tell me the worst Pokemon design possible and I shall make it so.
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>>27653430
It is a fake so there is no canon or headcanon.
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>>27653406

>How is it a mimic?
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>In a better, alternate universe all of humanity has agreed to boycott Pokemon Sun and Moon until they remove the Sandcastle Pokemon from the games and pretend it never existed.
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>>27653549
>It never happens because humanity boycotted Klefki when it was revealed and it started a butterfly effect
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>>27653549

>In a better, alternate universe this anon's mother and father never met so that we would never be subjected to his shitty opinions.
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>>27653549
What a horrible timeline.
We must drestroy the one who thought of that
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>>27653482
>Tell me the worst Pokemon design possible
>You are not taking this seriously. You simply made a bunch on unreachable goals to defend yourself
I did, and I could pull it off myself. If you can't then you're not qualified to discuss design with me.

>>27653491
>I won't answer the question, I'll avoid it
How is a mimic sandcastle a ghost? Why would it be a ghost? It's a haunted house/sandcastle. If you can't make a better argument then stop posting, you're literally just saying
>hurr, n-no it's what I said because I need to be right
It's not a competition, anon, you're not going to win and be correct because you posted on 4chan. It makes sense to assess it as a haunted house, given all the information we have.
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>>27653485
http://tomatem13.deviantart.com/art/Sandcastles-in-the-Sand-305506957

"SEBEIGE live on islands they create by manipulating sandbars and hardening them with water absorbed by their bodies. Their bodies solidify when they get wet, making them faster swimmers but slower movers. SEBEIGE are capable of firing sand from their mouths in a manner similar to a sand blaster gun."

>inb4 "the artist's pokedex entries don't matter either"
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>>27653608
>I did, and I could pull it off myself
Prove it.
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>>27653621
The artist Pokedex entry doesn't disprove that it is buried under the sand.
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>>27653608
Not a literal fantasy mimic creature anon.
It's a mimic in the sense that it actively wants to trick you into believing it's just a normal sand castle so that you let your guard down and suck you down into it.
It's the same as Drifloon being a balloon mimic so it can fucking kidnap the shit out of unsuspecting children.
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>>27652115
>"Removing the seal on its chest makes its internal energy go out of control."

Congrats on removing one of the core parts of its design. Might as well remove Salamence's wings while you're at it.
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>>27653608

Anon, I think the problem here is that your grasp of the English language is imperfect. You seem to be under the impression that, if someone is arguing that this thing is a mimic (which it literally is, by definition), they are also arguing it isn't a play on the idea of a haunted castle. That is not the case. This Pokemon is a haunted sand castle AND a mimic. There is no "well it can't be a mimic because it's something else!", because it uses mimicry as part of its concept. You cannot under any circumstances separate the two.
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>>27653677
>implying there are people who let their guard down near sandcastles
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>>27653665
Are you on the spectrum?
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>>27653625
I'll just explain how to do it, because it's 40 minutes I'd rather not waste.
>pokemon disguised as a pokemon that shitposts using it's mom's iPhone and doesn't understand surface level concepts
make a humanoid form, put it in an [any pokemon] onesie and have it hold a phone
>but is also Ron Howard from Happy Days as a Squirrel
add that to it
>who drives a dune buggy on Wednesdays
Dune Buggy alternate form available only on Wednesdays but can can kept on unless
>but not Saturdays because he like to unwind then with a glass of petrol while watching Dance Moms and thinking about the good old times
Loungin Reminiscent form with a glass of petrol, TV set and a nostalgiac look on its face (swap speed stat for special defense)

Easy as shit, get on my level.

>>27653677
You're pulling shit out of your ass, that's entirely speculation on your end. Also, Drifloon is based on a Japanese folktale so it's not a mimic either. If you had read the thread you'd have learned that.

>>27653715
I wanted this response and I am glad to concede to it, but my English is flawless mate.
Also, it's still not a mimic, but at this stage I can't make an argument to push any further. Thank you for being competent.
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>>27650802
Do people don't understand the concept behind his not threatening design? It's the same concept than beaware, they look harmless but they can destroy you.
Why everything has to be "muh is ghost but not edgy, I dont like it"
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>>27653767

>Also, it's still not a mimic

Can you explain why, keeping in mind the definition of the word "mimic"?
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>>27653768
OI OI OI!
Hold on, that's wrong. One is a spooky haunted castle that's a sandcastle because that's hilarious, the other is a bear that's a mascot (the mascot is a redpanda/maid(hence moe and affectionate and the head thing et al).
But they both do portray the deceptive danger of aspects of the natural world we are often taught, as children to consider cute - winnie the pooh and sandcastles.
So they have a similar theme.

>>27653800
In the same sentence I said I couldn't. Well, I could have a go, but it would be all speculation which is not objective and therefore not valid so it would be pointless.
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>>27653721
Reminds me of a joke from my youth.
>You don't have to worry about there being a monster under your bed son
>If it really wanted to get you, there's a likelier chance that a monster would just become your bed while you weren't looking
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>>27653849

So...you're admitting it is a mimic, by definition? I'm not sure how you could argue otherwise.
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>>27652714
Don't mix those up, HGSS is thw worst 2FPS shit
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>>27650814
that sand castle looks like some yokai shit anon
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>IT'S OKAY WHEN GEN 1 DOES IT
>MUK AND GRIMER ARE FUCKING FINE
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>>27653966
but theyy have lines, like real sludge
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>>27653944
Nah, you're just being a bell-end trying desperately tow in an argument that was beaten before he even posted.
It's very clearly a haunted house/sandcastle. It's obvious. It's not a mimic, otherwise it would have typing and an appearance to reflect that.
Which is what I posted. You're just a cheeky, stubborn faggot who doesn't know how to discuss anything so I'm not entertaining you anymore, is all. You haven't made any decent point to support your hairbrained theory, while there are tonnes of posts in this thread that explain the haunted house schtick.
Go and read the thread instead of ruining it.
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>>27654003
And he has sand, like real sandcastles
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>>27651770
I saw this post earlier and scrolled back up to find it had been completely ignored. This is a good post and perfectly counters every shitpost in the thread, including the dozens that have come after it because retards on 4chan don't understand what a thread is for. Good job.
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>>27654031
I wish you put as much effort into proving us wrong that you do for making up ad hominems to spew.

All you've done is go "It's not a mimmic because I say it isn't. Even though the dictionary defonition proves that it is.

Either you've just been arguing for the sake of wasting time, or you might genuinely have some sort of learning disability.
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>>27654126
Fuck off retard.
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>>27654126
>I saw this post earlier
You mean you made this post earlier.
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>>27653035
What is Umbreon
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>>27654147
>ironic shitposting intensifies
That's literally what you're doing. I made my points already and I'm not making them again just because you're lazy, meanwhile you've not made any besides saying that "it's a mimic or else!!"

>>27654166
>>27654176
Fuck off, shitposters, that was a genuine compliment to a post I went back to because it was informative.
It's great that you're easily offended by literally everything, but if you could fuck off and stop being massive faggots it would make this website so much better.
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>>27654265
Nice edit samefag
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>>27654031

>You haven't made any decent point to support your hairbrained theory

Yes, I have. It is a mimic because it uses mimicry, and because it mimics something that it is not. What do you think a mimic is, exactly? What qualifiers are necessary for something to be a mimic in your eyes that the dictionary definition of the word does not include?
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>>27653966
As someone who hates genwunners with a passion I still like Grimer and hate Shirodesuna. Believe it or not, some people have enough sense to judge things on their own merits and not lump everything into categories.

If people hate it specifically because it's a sand castle while pretending a puddle of radioactive semen brought to life by moonbeams is somehow objectively better, then feel free to call them out. Just know that not everyone who hates it is that retarded.
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>>27654265
If you can point to an example of you proving that it's not a mimic, I'd love to read it. Because all you've done is claim that it's a haunted house.

You haven't even offered proof as to how it could be a haunted house. Because it certainly doesn't look like one.
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>>27654310
It is s POSSESSED sandcastle. The Ghost type indicates that. Otherwise there would be no point in it being a ghost. It doesn't mimic sandcastles, it possessed one.
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>>27654298
>I said you're a samefag so you are now pat me on the back and pretend you were anyway

>>27654310
>it's a mimic because I said it is because I have arbitrarily decided that and that is hard facts and vgood proof from Prof. Anon phd
That's not a point, that's you repeatedly saying you think it's something.
Haunted Houses/Castles are castles that are haunted. The sandcastle is a sandcastle that is haunted. We're 100% so far.
Haunted castles attract travellers and trap them. We've got that too.
Haunted Sandcastle: Ghost/Ground. All boxes checked, no room for debate.

>>27654388
I, and some other anons earlier in the thread, have provided plenty more than anyone saying "it's a mimic. I say so. It mimics things, I decided this. I have no reason to claim this but I while". So fuck off repeatedly shitposting.
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>>27651171
SMT already did it.
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>>27654388
Read >>27654405
The Ghost type indicates that it possessed something.
A Sandcastle Mimic that is just a ghost because of no reason doesn't make sense.
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>>27654405
Anon, ghosts that possess things are inherently mimics.

Horror movies pull that shit all the time where a character lets their guard down for a possessed item to kill them because they don't know it's possessed.
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>>27654405

We don't know whether it's a possessed sandcastle or possessed sand mimicking a sandcastle. Regardless of that, it's quite clearly an intelligent creature mimicking an ordinary sandcastle.

>>27654426

You're still not understanding a thing I'm saying.

>it's a mimic because I said it is because I have arbitrarily decided that

How is knowing the definition of words "arbitrary"? And when have I once stated in this thread that I rejected your idea of its concept being a haunted (sand)castle? You don't get to ignore the English language in order to make your point. It IS a mimic, by definition. No room for debate.
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>>27654426
>It's not a mimic. It's a haunted castle because I say so. It couldn't be a ghost that possessed as a sandcastle because a pokemon having more than one design origin triggers my autism. I am too stubborn to realize that this is a pointless argument so I will continue to shitpost this already shit thread until we hit autosage.
FTFY.
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>>27654485
>>27652997
Is Voltorb a ghost too anon? Because it surely is a mimic.
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>>27654538

Okay, now you're just trolling. A ghost CAN be a mimic, but not all ghosts are mimics and not all mimics are ghost. This, however, is an example of a ghost that is a mimic.
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>>27654568
>This, however, is an example of a ghost that is a mimic.
No, this is an example of a ghost possessing a sandcastle. There is no other reason why it is Ghost type.
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>>27652115
I like it.
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NEW THREAD
>>27654546
>>27654546
>>27654546
>>27654546
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>>27654641

Why do I get the impression that you're arguing past me instead of with me? Because you never actually seem to address what I'm actually saying.

A ghost can be possessing something AND be a mimic.
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>>27653071
There was an attempt somewhere.
taking requests
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>>27654648

Fuck off cunt, nobody cares about your shitty crab fakemon.
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>>27654485
Mimics and ghosts are separate, that's why they are different words.
If mimics are ghosts, Voltord and Amoongus are ghosts too,

>>27654532
read your own posts, fella. I made my arguments, you have literally just claimed it's a mimic. People have contested every mimic argument and no one has offered a proper rebuttal. Learn to discuss things, stop getting assblasted because your theory makes less sense.

>>27654535
I actually explained why it's a haunted castle and not a mimic, grow up.

>UGH It is a mimic though because I post one line shitposts with greentexts and am filled with self-importance
Would you all just stop getting so invested in you're presumptions and actually read the thread? The Haunted Castle deal makes so much more sense, given the information available, than this mimic bullshit. Randomly saying it's not a haunted castle at all is absolute nonsense - it absolutely is. It might borrow from the whole mimic thing, but is it does it's as an aside.
In closing, it is a haunted castle. First and foremost that is very obviously what it is designed to be.
Fucking autists.
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>>27654708
It's not a crab. It's a ghost that possessed a crab.
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>>27654722
>I actually explained why it's a haunted castle and not a mimic, grow up
"It is because it is" isn't an argument.

Furthermore, please take a look at:
>>27654568
>>27654683
And stop shitposting.
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>>27654731
>It possessed a crab that mimics a sandcastle.
Makes much more sense then a ghost mimicking a sandcastle and not just possessing one.
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>>27654722

>Mimics and ghosts are separate, that's why they are different words.

So why can mimics be fungi? They're different words, after all.
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No it wasn't. Someone posted a crab thing. I thought that one was done okay. But this one is definitely not better than the one we got
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>>27653146
litten is black cat. Thats one of its inspirations. It has that stereotypical halloweeen black cat arched back standing up fur look when it attacks. It isn't ALL black but that'd make for a pretty boring looking pokemon. This is the only cat pokemon to have that arched back thing going when it attacks so im pretty sure the connection is intentional
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>>27654774
There's too much irony here. Either this is some weird bait or you're a retard.
I actually explained what haunted castles were and how it relates to this design, not that I should have to since it is literally a fucking castle.

>>27654826
>being literally retarded
If the castle is a mimic then it wouldn't be ghost type. That is the point, you stupid idiot.
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>>27654883
Litten is a red cat covered in oil.
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>>27654896
>If the castle is a mimic then it wouldn't be ghost type. That is the point, you stupid idiot.
This. Why do people not understand this?
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>>27654938

Because it has no basis in logic whatsoever and seems to be based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the English language.
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>>27651770
BTFO. Underated post
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>>27651171
>Ghost/Steel
>pre evo is a rusty buggy
>Naturally learns Recover
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>>27654896
What type would it be?
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>>27654955
You can stop samefagging anytime you want.
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>>27654896
I like how you refuse to argue with the guy who wants to know why it can't be both.

>If the castle is a mimic then it wouldn't be ghost type
Non sequitur.
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>>27654923
Does it matter what the explanation for it being black is? Like, really and truly matter given the other information? Does it matter thematically if a black cat only looks black but is actually just covered in something that makes it black? Tell me honestly
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>>27654976
Ground/Water
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>>27655001
If a blackboard is covered in white chalk, does that suddenly make it a whiteboard?
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>>27655029
If you see a whiteboard, yes.
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>>27654938
I'm convinced it's a combination of simply ebin shitposters and massive autists who "NEED TO WIN THIS" or are adamant that their assumed design analysing expertise is first class and are upset that someone has explained that they're wrong. It's hard to tell, but it's equally as bad either way.

Eventually some youtube girl they all fap to will re-explain what it obviously is and then they'll all flip-flop because someone whose name they know said it instead of someone with literally years of expertise in the field.

>>27654976
Ground/ sand
Seriously, it would need more in its design if it was just a mimic. And it would need to not be a castle because that would be counter-intuitive because Haunted Castles are a global trope.

>>27654985
I literally explained that, while it might even incorporate some aspects of mimics, it's very clearly a Haunted Castle. It's literally a castle that is haunted. It is literally that. I posted that two or three times.
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>>27655029
are zebras white with black stripes or black with white stripes?
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>>27655029
What does that have to do with the design and themes intended to be conveyed by a cartoon cat drawn by people?
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>>27655060
>It's a haunted castle because it is
There he goes again!
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>>27655063
White with black stripes. Look at their bellies.
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>>27655060

>while it might even incorporate some aspects of mimics

Not some. It pretends to be (mimics) an ordinary sandcastle, when it is in fact either A) a preexisting sandcastle that has been possessed, or B) possessed sand that shapes itself into a sandcastle. We don't know which of the two it is yet, but ultimately that doesn't matter. What type it is is inconsequential to whether or not something qualifies as a mimic, as per the definition of the word. To ignore that is, quite simply, to ignore the definition of words to suit your own fundamentally ignorant opinion.

Or you're just trolling. At this point I really hope you are, because the alternative is that you're as dumb as a sack of hammers.
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>>27655091
That's just either weak bait or a desperate attempt to convince yourself you won an argument because no one was bothered with you anymore.
You know, you'd not be a low-life virgin living in your mother's wardrobe if you approached life differently.

>>27655135
That's fucking nonsense.
It's a fucking castle that is a ghost type. Anyone from any country not called America automatically knows that trope because every country not called America has castles.
Making a mimic that is a castle is pointless, why would you do that? It makes no sense.
Making it ghost type makes even less sense and you keep trying to make that part of your point but it doesn't make sense.

It's literally a haunted castle. It's the oldest horror trope in human culture.
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>>27655196
>projecting this hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePKFbLzmfNI
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>>27654405
It can be both. Every Mimicking doesn't have to be a possession, and every possession doesn't need to be an intentional mimic (though, to some extent it is still mimicking, unless it drastically changes the form), but in some cases a possessed object CAN be a Pokemon trying to mimic that object.
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>>27655216
>if I shitpost and they make fun of me for it I'll pull my trump card buzzwords, that'll show them!
That's not how you discuss things
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>>27655196

I'm now firmly convinced that English is not your first language.

It is a haunted (sand)castle.

It is also a mimic.

If you can't see how both of these can be true simultaneously, then you either do not understand the meaning of words or you have some kind of developmental disorder.
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>>27655322
What buzzword did I use? Or is the youtube link a meme that I don't know about? Because it seems like now you're just grasping straws to keep this (You) farm alive.
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>>27655248
By possessing it doesn't mimic being the possessed object, it becomes the possessed object. Mimics are objects that copy the look of another object. Ghosts that posses something don't copy it, they become the object. Therefor a possessed sandcastle is not a mimic. It is just a possessed sandcastle.
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>>27655386
Read >>27655430
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>>27654686
Change the colors so it's not Christmas and it would be good
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>>27655430
>>27655445

A possessed sandcastle that pretends to be a completely normal sandcastle is, by definition, a mimic. It's really quite simple, so I'm not sure why you seem to be having such tremendous difficulty accepting it. What is your first language?
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>>27655487
Then there is a simple question. What does the sandcastle mimic, if it is the sandcastle? Does it mimic itself? And my first language is irrelevant.
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>>27655386
>I'll keep saying things about English because this proves my point
Irony, plain and simple. I explained this already, too. It is a haunted castle. It's a castle that is ghost type. It is literally the premise for Dracula - the most iconic horror story of all time. It's so universally understood it scares me that you didn't automatically see it.

If you want to make a mimic, you don't make it a ghost castle because that would be counter-intuitive and just making a mimic for its own sake is stupid anyway since there's nothing for it to be based on, it's just a random mimic for the sake of one, as opposed to the very obvious reading of it being the very well known Haunted Castle trope.

I also acknowledged your last sentence countless times, way to prove you're not reading the thread, to further make your
>Hurr English language
posts even more ironic.

I also speak fucking impeccable English, because I'm Irish - the English speaking country with the best educational system.

>>27655392
I'll keep giving you (you)s, but I'm sick of repeating myself and I'm not acknowledging shitposts anymore. You're the biggest retard in this thread, worse that OP.

>>27655487
>this castle is a mimic because I am desperate to prove it is please agree with me now
Stop posting the same fucking thing, the argument was finished a solid hour ago. Either read the thread of fuck off, seriously.
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>>27655537

The possessed sandcastle mimics an ordinary, non-killer sandcastle. I would think that much would be self-evident.
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>>27655574
But why should it mimic a sandcastle if it is already a sandcastle?
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>>27650802
>bipedal sandcastle
You really think it's better?
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A mimic is creature that lures something in by pretending to be something good or otherwise benign. Is that not what this does?
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>>27655567
I was really curious what part of my post was a buzzword. Why dodge such a simple question, anon?
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>>27655567

>Blah blah blah Dracula

If you had actually been reading my posts, you would have figured out that I have never once in this entire thread implied or argued that you were wrong about it being inspired by haunted castles. I'm not sure why you keep insisting otherwise and bringing it up as if it somehow refutes what I've been saying.

>>27655615

I'll take this slow, since you seem to be mentally challenged.

It is a possessed sandcastle. Okay? Got it?

Ordinary sandcastles do not move or eat people. You follow?

It mimics an ordinary sandcastle, by remaining still. Still with me?

And through this act of mimicry, fools prey into getting close enough to collapse in around them and devour their energy or soul or whatever it is they do.

And there we go. Simple.

>>27655651

Finally someone with a fully functioning brain.
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>>27655615
But it isn't just a sandcastle. It's a monstrous, soul-sucking sand castle.
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>>27650802
The real one looks better. It's possessed sand that takes on a familiar shape. The fakemon is awful-looking. It doesn't look like sand, but a burlap sack with pepperoni nipples.

>>27650860
What does Goylurk have to do with this?
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>>27655651
But a mimic can't be a ghost because I say so.

I am affluent in English and my headcanon is law.
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>>27650802
>Muk made of sand is shit, make it a Garbador made of sand instead
Wow, so much changed
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>>27655430
>By possessing it doesn't mimic being the possessed object, it becomes the possessed object.

Possession doesn't mean "transform". It is another being (usually a ghost) inhabiting an object (or living creature, for that matter).

Whether or not it is mimicking said object or person depends on how it looks and acts. And it can be both intentional or unintentional as to how much it mimics something while possessing it. If it TRIES to look and act like the thing it possesses, it is clearly mimicking, as per the definition of the word.

Mimics don't need to be possessed things, and possessed things don't need to be intentional mimics, but they can both certainly be happening at the same time.
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>>27655690
>What does Goylurk have to do with this?
There can only be one Ground/Ghost Pokemon.
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Is this entire thread two people having a rabid argument over a Pokemon they both like?
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It really bugs me Ground is the "sand" type but Rock is the type that gets the boost from sandstorm
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>>27655687
But by possessing a sandcastle it becomes one. So it doesn't need to mimic a sandcastle. It just needs to do what a sandcaslte does to lure people. And since it is a sandcastle, it is not mimicking.
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>>27655807

>It just needs to do what a sandcaslte does to lure people.

That is literally mimicry.
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>>27651813
Based off French garbage
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>>27655668
(you) - projecting was the buzzword. I wasn't by the way, I was just slagging you for the sake of beefing up my posts so they don't get confused with another anon's.

>>27655687
If you read my posts or half the posts in this thread you wouldn't have started spamming your garbage theories at everyone at all.
And now I insist you read them all again because, if you do, you'd realise that it is a Haunted Castle. That is the design, that is what it is meant to be. That is the core concept and any assumed mimicry is a minor detail/not even a minor detail/non-existent.

And, on behalf of your continued retardation with a side of self-importance and on behalf of the other anon
>Ordinary sandcastles do not move or eat people. You follow?
Confirmed uncultured pleb who has no knowledge of Haunted Castles in media.
It's a Haunted Castle. Look up any Haunted House film. They House traps and then eats them half the time. The house is generally alive.
Watch the Japanese film "House", as an example - seeing as how it's a Japanese design. That film is based on the same core concept.

It hurts me that you're this stupid, but it hurts even more that you keep posting with an implied sense of superiority when you're clearly an idiot.
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>>27655819
Not if it IS a sandcastle
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>>27655807
>it is not mimicking
>It just needs to do what a sandcaslte does to lure people.
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>>27655786
No. It's an autist trying to rationalize why a sandcastle Pokemon could be part Ghost.
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>>27655851
Read >>27655838
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>>27651619
the bottom really only applies to some higher level digimon

it's really stupid when people say "it looks like a digimon lol!" like that's supposed to be an insult
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>>27655838

A possessed sandcastle acting like an ordinary (nonpossessed) sandcastle, by not moving or whatever, is mimicry. Are you daft? How are you not getting this?
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>>27655786
Nah, there's a few people. One retard, one shitposter, me and a cool guy. There have been a few more but most of them left because they have common sense.
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>>27655851
Cats that do what cats do is not mimicking cats. It is being a cat.
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>>27655900
>How are you not getting this?
I don't like the word mimic, so it's a haunted house.
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>>27655807
You're trying to change the definition of mimic.
I'm 90% sure you're trolling. I don't wish this level of ignorance on anyone. But in the case that you are being serious, just know that just become something inhabits another thing, doesn't mean that it can't trying to copy that thing.

Possession is taking control of something, in this case by moving inside of it. The possessed thing doesn't cease to exist when it becomes possessed, it is just under the control of whatever is possessing it.

Maybe you think possession means something different from what ghosts do when they possess things.
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>>27655900
Read >>27655906
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>>27655879
I literally typed nothing new there. I made no new statements. i used your words. I'm honestly surprised no one has said "it's not pretending to be a treasure chest so it isn't a mimic" because that's the level of pedantry we're at here
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>>27655906
But Sandcastles don't go moving around with a face and sucking souls and shit.
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>>27655928
A ghost that possesses a cat is still a ghost.
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>>27655834

>And now I insist you read them all again because, if you do, you'd realise that it is a Haunted Castle. That is the design, that is what it is meant to be.

I still fail to see why you keep bringing this up, because I keep agreeing with you.

>It's a Haunted Castle. Look up any Haunted House film. They House traps and then eats them half the time. The house is generally alive.

You're not telling me anything I don't already know. And in that example you just gave, the house acts like (mimics) a normal house until people (prey) are inside of it. For another example of this, watch the animated film "Monster House".

I just wish that you were capable of grasping this core concept.
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>>27650814
>Left looks like a digimon

What does this even mean?
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>>27653702
>a band-aid is a seal
The designer didn't think that through then.
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>>27655961
see >>27655933
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>>27655983
is a band aid NOT a seal?
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>>27652115
it looks way better and I don't really like gen 1
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>>27656001
>is a band aid NOT a seal?
No you imbecile. A seal is an aquatic mammal.
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>>27656000

I think you've quoted the wrong post.
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>>27655983
>What the FUCK is a prague golem
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>>27655920
I'm the other guy.
I don't know where you all pulled the word "possessed" from, but that's not what a Haunted Castle is and therefore irrelevant.

When you talk about spirits - especially in Japan - they are imbued in people, plant, animals or things due to an event. A Haunted Castle comes to life after certain conditions are met - these often vary. It's a Castle that is alive.

You're arguing about nothing, I already won this argument hours ago.

>>27655961
I'm not reading your posts anymore.
You keep arguing that a sandcastle that is alive is mimicking another sandcastle and it's gotten on my nerves.
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>>27656016
Fucking numbnuts. Seal is a black singer
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>>27655983

Go complain to the Jews about it then.

>>27656032

Well at least you've finally conceded you can't actually refute any of my points. Thank you.
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>>27656043
I literally annihilated your argument from every angle, get lost.
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>>27656064
I LITERALLY CRUCIFIED your argument yesterday
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>>27656020
see >>27655928
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>>27656064
>if I tell him I'm right, I win the argument
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>>27655957
We are talking about Pokemon. I am sure there is a cat Pokemon that does something like that.
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>>27656064

I'm sorry anon, I really am, but this isn't a contest. It's okay for you to be inherently mistaken about the meaning of and compatibility between words. It'd be far healthier for you to just admit you were wrong and move on instead of saying you're done with the argument and then continuing it anyway because you desperately need to get the final word in.
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>>27656124
If we're talking about Pokemon, then we're not talking about literal, actual sandcastles
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>>27656140
That is why the sandcastle is alive and not mimicking a sandcastle.
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>>27656032
Okay thanks for confirming the troll in your roll.

I got the word possess from the person I was responding to. If that wasn't you, then tough shit. He said the word possess and that's what I was talking about.

But you... Do you know what it's called when a spirit imbues something else with its own consciousness?
That is a possession. Same concept, different word. Let's just use the word 'inhabit', because that's what's going on. The castle is only "alive" insofar as a spirit has taken control of it. Once the spirit is gone, the castle is back to normal, but while it is inhabited, the spirit can choose to mimic said [noun], both in looks and actions, to meet whatever ends it needs.

If you are trolling, then good job. My time is worthless but I could see that annoying the fuck out of a normal person.
If not, then I truly hope you eventually realize that you are misunderstanding the concept behind a few key words.
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>>27656163

A living sandcastle is not a nonliving sandcastle.
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>>27656131
>>27656124
>>27656098
>>27656043
>>27656032
>>27656177

Well this has been a fun thread, but the captcha's spewing out indecipherable gibberish. So I'm taking my leave. Since I have no idea who's trolling who anymore, I'll just leave all of you with one last (You)
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>>27656043
>it has to resemble the real thing, specially in the bad parts
>rock is the same as mud and clay
It is over designed, not a bad thing for some, but it definitely have kept me from using it.
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>>27656186
>A living keychain is not a nonliving keychain.
Therefor pic related is a mimic too?
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>>27656085
>I was only pretending to be retarded
why can't you just admit you're a massive cock-mongler?

>>27656098
>makes no points besides "it is a mimic"
>explain why it's not succinctly multiple times
>"s-s-so, you can't have arguments then with me"
Nah. I'm sticking around to give everyone (you)s to share my victory spoils

>>27656131
you do understand you're the worst sort of person, right?
An ironic shitposter who starts an argument, repeatedly demands to have things re-explained to him, get's them spelled out so specifically that they have no shitting points left and resorts to literally being a cancerous faggot, right?
The worst...
Oh wait, sorry. I just realised that you're a shitposter mimic!
But being a mimic doesn't explain your faggot type...

>>27656177
>That is a possession
Nope. It's the castle's own spirit. If you knew anything about that sort of stuff you'd know that. Congratulations on another successful (you).
The only thing that annoys me about your posts is that you think you're some English expert when you have literally no idea what you're talking about, otherwise I'm just having a laugh.
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>>27656236

Yes, actually. You're getting it now!
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>>27656211
;v) good luck in your future trollings.
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>>27656265
Then why is sandcastle ghost type and klefki not?
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>>27656265
>>27656236
I would say no based on the fact that it doesn't look like a key chain to lure people in and consume or otherwise take advantage of its form. But yeah if it did that yeah, basically same idea
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>>27656256
>Oh wait, sorry. I just realised that you're a shitposter mimic!
>But being a mimic doesn't explain your faggot type...
Wow
Fucking
OWNED
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>>27656256

Why are you still reading my posts, anon?

>makes no points besides "it is a mimic"
>explain why it's not succinctly multiple times

You have yet to actually provide an explanation for why it is not that does not misrepresent the argument of the person you're responding to, or outright ignoring the definitions of the words they're using.

>An ironic shitposter

I assure you anon, there is no irony in anything I've been saying, nor have I been shitposting. I've been attempting to correct you on some mistaken claims you've been making.

Also, that person talking about possession isn't me.

>>27656293

Because typing has nothing to do with whether something fits the definition of "mimic".
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>>27656328

It is a mimic, appearance-wise. Behaviorally, however, you are correct.
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>>27656256
>Nope. It's the castle's own spirit.
Which originated from...??? If nothing else put the spirit there, then yes the castle made its own spirit. Otherwise, something else has put another spirit inside of it (possession), which can then choose etc etc etc etc. Just because the spirit wasn't there before hand doesn't mean that it isn't possessing the thing that didn't have a spirit to begin with. Moving goalposts doesn't do anything to prove your point.

>>27656236
Kind of? I mean, it tries to LOOK like a keychain, but it doesn't really ever act like one... so it's appears to mimic, even if it doesn't act like a mimic. Partial mimicry perhaps?
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>>27656368
(you)
I won already :^)
Tabs open, I'll keep responding like this.
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>>27656236
Klefki looks like a keychain to make it easier to collect keys. This looks like a sandcastle to make it easier to collect souls. This looks like a shitpost to make it easier to collect (You)s.
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>>27656368
>Because typing has nothing to do with whether something fits the definition of "mimic".
Then why does it have this typing? It is a possessed Sandcastle, that's why. And because it became the sandcastle after possessing it, it is no mimic. You can't mimic what you are.
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>>27656416

>You can't mimic what you are.

I agree. A possessed sandcastle can't mimic a possessed sandcastle.

A possessed sandcastle can mimic an ordinary, non-possessed sandcastle, however.
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>>27656416
But it isn't a regular sandcastle. It's a ghost that mimics being a regular sandcastle.
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>>27656388
Nah, with these things the castle just develops a spirit due to tragic events that occurred within it.
generally old castles were seen as haunted and the castle said to have come to life due to them lying derelict and being overcome with sadness and lonliness or whatever events that made the castle vacant birthed an angry spirit in the castle, etc.
Generally that was said to scare kids who would otherwise play in the dangerous abandoned castle.

I didn't think we were still doing this
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>>27656433
>>27656434
But how do you know that it acts like an ordinary sandcastle?
Maybe it lures people by doing stuff ordinary sandcastle don't do.
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>>27656463
How do you know it does things ordinary sandcastle don't do?

Your argument is a terrible one because it can easily be reversed and used against you. Try harder next time.
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>>27656463
I guess I don't know for a fact that's what it does but it seems a fairly logical place to go. Even if it pretend to be friendly like it was a sandcastle called out to little boys and said "hey there I got lollipops want one?" and then they walked over to it it would A) still be mimicry i.e. pretending to be something that it isn't, a nice sandcastle monster, and B) would make it being a sandcastle kind of pointless
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>>27656483

Honestly, there's so much we don't know about this thing that it baffles me that there was an entire thread arguing about it. All we know are their Japanese names and typing.
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>>27656463
>How do you know it does things ordinary sandcastle don't do?
I know because it is a possessed sandcastle. It sucks souls an shit. ordinary sandcastles don't do that so the argument makes sense.
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THREAD HIT BUMP LIMIT
>>27654546
>>27654546
NEW THREAD
>>27654546
>>27654546
GET IN HERE
>>27654546
>>27654546
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>>27656483
>>27656516
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>>27656522

What is this, a shitposting general? Fuck off.
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>>27656533
That's exactly what this is, anon. And it's fun. Stop being so prudent.
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>>27656549
I did most of the posts in this thread and I'm not coming to waste more time, fuck off.
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>>27656564
Count your posts faggot.
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>>27656578
I wrote them all, including the one just made.
You should know that because you're obviously me.
I didn't make those new thread posts, though. They're mimics of me by some faggot who doesn't know about Haunted Castles.
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>>27652634
If it was "old" Pokemon that plastic bucket would be made of wood?
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>>27656611
They're not mimics, you faggot. They're possessed versions of you. Why else would they be part ghost type?
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>>27656611
325 / 44 / 73 / ?
You can be just one of 73. Your lie just discredited all your other posts.
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>>27656650
Where are you getting possessed from?
They have spirits of their own, brought about by the tragic events of being BTFO in this thread. They are alive in and of themselves.

>>27656666
I'd remark that I have a huge room full of computers and servers, but I wouldn't be able to fool you, Satan.
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>>27656709
Don't you get it?

These spirits... they're all you!

You've been samefagging the whole time!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>27656753
But he can't mimic himself. Therefore samefagging should be impossible.
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>>27656792
>But he can't mimic himself.
That's because he isn't.

He broke his soul into 73 pieces and they all possessed different IPs.
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>>27656753
BAH GAWD!

but I realised I was well designed so it's fine

I also just realised I told my dog I'd play with him but got distracted by this thread so now I have to go apologise to a dog
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>>27656416
The sandcastle isn't mimicking anything, I agree. But the artificial "life" that put itself inside of it has decided to mimic a normal sandcastle, up until it can get some yummy nom noms

>>27656461
In essence, a castle cannot make a spirit for itself. But if we are going to argue about fantasy living castles then fine, let me dive into this.

Some supernatural force has grown the spirit inside of the castle. As in, the spirit comes to inhabit an otherwise average object. The only things that can grow their own spirit are inherently living things. Castles don't normally do that. Normal castles have no free will or ability to move. Sure, we can think up a magical living castle that just sprouts a spirit from another dimension, but that changes nothing about the fact that it is a spirit, inhabiting an otherwise lifeless thing, and can at that point choose to mimic said lifeless thing to whatever extent it can. A normal castle isn't alive, and therefore a living castle ISN'T a normal castle any longer.
If it has no choice in the matter of how much it mimics, nobody could ever tell it's haunted because there would be no difference between this magical castle and a normal castle.
That's the core of this argument we are trying to make.

Just like Voltorb can MIMIC a pokeball even though it isn't possessed by a ghost, a ghost infested sandcastle can MIMIC other normal sandcastles regardless of whether you want to call it a possession or not.
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>>27656846
Requesting pics of sad dog that couldn't play
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>>27656876
What type of autist tries this hard to argue a point? Why are you so desperate to prove to everyone that something is something else?

Spirits (in this sense) don't exist, but in these stories being referenced here the are born unto something as, in the times these tales were told, objects were considered subject to emotional turmoil. The same idea as the weather being the gods being angry, etc.
In stories, these castles appear, disappear, transform, get up and walk, fly, jump and all sorts of stuff. They eat, primarily.

This is a Pokemon based on this concept and is also a sandcastle.
After all the explanations, all the spoonfeeding and all the spelling it out, and after the shitposting being universally embraced for good fun, it is disgusting that you needed to have that chewed up and regurgitated for you.
Never post again.

>>27656928
I would, but his balls are visible atm and I don't want furries getting off to my dog.
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>>27656996
Then just photoshop the dog balls to alola Exeggutor
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>>27652347
To simplistic to be a Digimon.
>>27655970
Digimon tends to have dark, gritty shading. Understandable when Digimon was made to be basically be Tamagochi for boys.
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>>27656996
You're missing the core point, and we were arguing a bunch of semantics about what constitutes a possession instead of the core point.

Regardless of where the spirit comes from, or whether you want to call it a possession, it doesn't matter. Normal sandcastles don't do anything, they have no life, they have no motives. So anything with a life or motive cannot be a normal sandcastle. It has choices to make, which include MIMICKING other, normal sandcastles.

It doesn't matter what word you put on a new spirit inhabiting an object that otherwise has none (or overpowering an inherently living thing that already has a spirit), this sandcastle is no longer a normal sandcastle, but is acting like a normal sand castle in order to get food. Sandcastles don't fucking eat, but a spirit might just. The spirit living inside of the fucking castle is what is mimicking other non-living castles.

Voltorbs aren't possessed pokeballs, as we can both agree. That changes nothing about the original argument. It's still mimicking a pokeball to some extent, because pokeballs ARE NOT ANIMATE, just like a sandcastle isn't.
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