/pmdg/ - Pokemon Mystery Dungeon

>dead on arrival
Here, let me jumpstart the thread.

SMDsux

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Would you marry your Partner?

>>27560435
Probably.

>>27560435
Marry my partner? B-But we're both male!

CHESPIN WAS THE CANON SMD PARTNER

>>27560487
So?

>>27560487
Even better!

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>>27560487
So? That didn't stop me.

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>>27560435
We already raised a kid so marriage doesn't sound that crazy.

>>27560435
Yes

>>27560435
I've gauged the plausibility of romancing the different waifus and sadly the results aren't too good.

For starters, Espurr and Mawile isn't going to happen. It's pretty clear from their actions they don't want to be with out, in fact whenever you do get together they choose to go separate ways almost as quickly as possible.

So basically it's down to your partner and Mew. Both want to be with you and stick to you like glue the instant you meet, so already it's a done deal. As for which has the most potential it's hard to say. The partner does have that problematic Martyr mindset which is going to kick you in the ass later on. And arguably Mew was just in it for the novelty. It's pretty much down to personal preference at this point.

>>27554410
>and a load of 99f dungeons
That's not a bad thing, and it should be brought back, expanding on what RT did. It tried to make them be special, giving you a reason to go there, both for the dungeon itself and what you get to complete it. Compare it to most other 99 floors dungeons in the other games, you get nothing but bragging rights.

>has some weird mechanics not seen in the rest of the series
It's just the Pokémon Towers, they aren't really that weird.

>Overall feels like the game was rushed to release before the Sun/Moon announcement
While it was definitely the case with GtI, just because a game has flaws that doesn't mean you can have the excuse of them being rushed. It might be, but there's not much that supports it.

And I'd add that Super feels like what GtI was meant to be.

>>27554412
Yeah, I wish they would do that kind of stuff again, it's nice to have some stuff from the next generation in the spinoffs.

>>27554613
Gates to Infinity seemed to be moving towards that direction.

>>27554848
>no gender selection that was in the Japanese version (you're a male by default in US)
The gender selection is only for the partner

>Using any starter mon but Axew makes the game difficult
What? If anything it's just that Axew makes it even easier, though I don't see how that would matter.

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>>27560543
Is Manaphy in Super? Or is she too busy rekking OU?

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>>27560435
>Not marrying your special doggo

The sequel to Ears isn't written down in my ideabin to be called "The Marriage of Mew" for no reason, after all

>>27560435
Yes

>>27561058
>just because a game has flaws that doesn't mean you can have the excuse of them being rushed.


At least for Europe, the games released barely a month before the games were announced. Some ideas just seem unfinished, like how the level 5 dungeons don't give any reward at all.

>>27560487
It's not gay if you love each other.

>>27562055
>Europe
They didn't actually need those 3 months, the translations were already done by the time the american version got released.

>>27562193
I don't get the point of delaying a game that long if the game's done.

>>27562282
I don't either, probably marketing stuff.

>>27562282
Maybe they were taking their dandy time doing the game content ratings or some shit.

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Is Gates to Infinity worth playing, or should I skip to Super?

>>27562714
It's worth a look to see the things in it that weren't in any other game.

>>27562714
If you care about the story alone yes. Otherwise, only if you want to see how they handled some things.

>>27562714

Play both.

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>Replay PMD:EoS because the old save file got corrupted
>I get an eevee starter
>It's somewhat decent with adaptality tackle and flail saving my ass more than once
>Realize tha the final boss is a steel type.
>mfw

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>>27562936
>he didn't have his lesbian Vulpix partner

What custom starters would you use in GtI?

>>27562986
Heart-shaped tail Pikachu. I don't think anyone else has the proper expressions or animations.

>>27562986
Zorua, Eevee, Mareep, Sentret

>>27563049
>Mareep, Sentret
Well, they don't exist

Anyone know how I can stop my games from freezing? Playing Blue Rescue Team with Deoxys as the hero, and there are some moments where the game freezes in conversation.

I just had a crazy thought. What if I start a game of GTI and pick my partner as a cute Pikachu, then convert the save to the EUR version and keep playing?

Who said that you get to pick gender in the japanese version? Are you absolutely certain that Pikachu gets the heart-tail model?

>>27562986
Wooper and Minccino

>>27563066
Custom starters? It might be because of missing portraits/animations.

>>27563068
I haven't checked, but I think the saves are different based on the region for GtI, and so it would require a converter, which doesn't exist right now. If you want to have a female Pikachu partner in the european or american version there's an easier way and it's something I'm about to do right now actually

>Are you absolutely certain that Pikachu gets the heart-tail model?
Yes.

>>27563137
What's on your mind? I own the retail cart, if you need it decrypted for the RomFS.

>>27563058
Don't remind me

>>27563150
The only thing I don't have is the layeredfs plugin specifically for GtI, I had it in my SD card but it got damaged. Do you have it?

Anyone know if it's possible to get EoS running on a Wii U?

>>27563066
If you use a mon in RT that is missing animations and/or lacks portraits for cut scences in the main story, the game will freeze due to that. It's how it is. Post game doesn't do this.

>>27563233
No, deleted it a long time ago. I think I was trying to make custom starters but it wouldn't work for some reason.

>There are people ITT who seriously try and defend Super Mystery Dungeon


>A fucking

>SALAMENCE

>before leaving

>PRE

>SCHOOL

>>27563288
i don't like this new meme

>>27563288
Y'know always bothered me in the other games how people are like OH NO DUNGEONS FULL OF SCARY MONSTERS AND POWERFUL BOSSES PLEASE SAVE US and two kids oneshot every motherfucker with no effort

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>>27563288

>>27563274
I tried as well, I remember it showing the icon of the Pokémon I wanted but then getting back to the main menu. At least the cheat on fort42 works, but I think the Pokemon's ability stays the same. Now I'm considering to play through GtI again using custom starters (I don't care if they don't have the proper ability) and maybe trying to complete the game, or playing around with it.
Well, I need to rebuild the plugin first.

>>27563325
Your two starters are teenagers after beating Dialga and adults after beating Darkrai in Explorers. Sunflora and her diary confirm it.

>>27563246
>>27563121
Dang.

Does Sky have this issue too?

>>27563344
Sky has no issue, it works perfectly.

>>27563288
Ah yes the "stats and levels work the same as they do in the mainline games because I have done zero research into the matter" meme.

I only have the european version of Gates to Infinity, if anyone wants me to upload a layeredFS plugin for the american and japanese versions please post their decrypted exefs file. I'll share the plugin here when I'm done.

>>27563333
>>27563368
Hilariously enough I don't think AR codes would give you a heart-tail pikachu, the game still checks the assigned gender. It's not a separate character as shown here

http://pastebin.com/yPXF35Km

>>27562936
You didn't teach it dig?

>>27563351
>More people pushing this "Stats and evolutions aren't a sign of strength" meme
>Meanwhile Protein, Zinc etc are all described by the game as making you stronger
>Meanwhile all child Pokemon are first-evolution and are described as being weaker than their evolved versions for that reason
>Meanwhile all strong 'mons are fully evolved and Teddiursa describes evolution as undergoing physical changes that make you stronger
>People ITT are seriously implying that it wouldn't have been out of place if Dusknoir was a Duskull, Wigglytuff was an Igglybuff, Pancham was a Pangoro, or that Darkrai's minions were Magby, Elekid, Rhyhorn etc


get a grip dummies

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>>27563244
Through the eShop at least, i don't know how homebrew works for the wiiu

>>27563288
>he doesn't get Level 1 Salamences in pmd

>>27563394
Espurr looks like she's four years old and fights on par with legendaries. Revise your bait.

It's not funny or of any value, please stop posting your salamence meme

>>27563394
anon the starters have the same stats as that level 50 salamence at level 15 do some fucking research.

I want the shitposter to leave. This general actually gets along and helps each other, I don't want it to turn into a mass of ironic shitposting like 90% of /vp/

>>27563406
>>27563411
>>27563418
I'm starting to think that the preschool Salamence troll is actually a Super fan trying to make people who prefer Sky look stupid. It's working already, for example - "You don't like Super? LOL LE SALAMENCE IN PRESCHOOL RIGHT? xD Fuck off."

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>>27563394
>not taking the "unevolved but overpowered" route

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>>27563288
They should just remake Sky on the 3DS :^)

>>27563406
To be fair to the shitposter the entire premise of Espurr is that she's meant to be a surprisingly powerful child prodigy, which leads to the reverse implication that most unevolved pokemon aren't as strong as her

>>27563475
>No replies for almost an hour after this was posted

SUPER "EVOLUTIONS DON'T EQUAL POWER" FANBOYS BTFO!!!

>>27563439
I'm starting to believe it too after reading this. >>27563768

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>>27563450
>337 HP
Step it up senpai

>>27563450
>>27564069
What is there to even do at that power?

>>27564069
That was on my emulated version with like a fourth the time of my cart, get off my back

>>27564083
Showing Zero Isle Center who's boss and getting letdown at the lame rewards at the end and rescuing people

>>27564104
Is that all?

>>27564137
Really it's mostly just done because it's the only time i'll be able to make my favorites the strongest around.

Well, you could rob Kecleon I guess, but even at those stats it's difficult.

>>27564083
>>27564137
Recruiting everyone without much of a problem. At 999HP you can recover 5HP at a time if anything actually does go wrong, like an explosion if you forgot to bring a Damp Pokemon, or if the enemy uses Endeavor which deals a ton of damage to you even if they're at max health. At level 100 I think your general recruitment rate increases by 25%, so if you combine that with an Amber Tear, getting mons becomes much easier.

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>>27563985
or perhaps that's a false falseflag made to support him and discredit the anti-super poster

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>>27564532
HOW DEEP DOES THE (RABBIT-LIKE POKEMON) HOLE GO???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KruA3DDT8oI
Did One Punch Mon give up and leave?

>>27565319
>A fucking

>SPOILER

>before finishing

>PRE

>SCHOOL

just thought I'd ask here since I can't seem to find a credible source anywhere else. Does anyone have a download for gates to infinity? I'm trying to emulate it on my laptop and I'm getting nowhere.

>>27566544
>emulate
I hope you're at least using the fork, because otherwise there's no chance of it being playable. The only person I know who tested GtI with the fork had it crash whenever they met an enemy.

>download
I'm not going to bother looking for download links of stuff you can download from Nintendo's servers without any trouble. Read the /hbg/ OP.

>>27566626
well shit I'm new here. I've only emulated gameboy games like red rescue team. Didn't know you could get things straight from nintendo but I'll still give it a try, thanks.

>>27566544
Unless you think 1FPS is playable, don't bother emulating

>>27566760
Some games are actually better than you would expect with the fork. https://gbatemp.net/threads/citra-unofficial-chinese-builds-discussion.431974/

>>27566544
you can emulate 3ds games?

>>27566900
I went into this thinking you could but it seems to be only old ds games. Also I've never heard of the fork before. I'm on some basic dolphin shit as always.

>>27566544
>>27566626
>>27566727
>>27566760
>>27566808
>>27566900
>>27567255
>Emulating before finishing


>FUCKING


>PRE


>SCHOOL

>>27568050
This is a stupid meme, dumbass

>waifu wars/cuteposting
>now an autist spamming copypasta shitposts in order to force a meme
Come on, guys

can I recruit jigglypuff in smd

>>27568183
You can recruit any Pokemon in SMD, but only one of most species. Igglybuff can't evolve into Jigglypuff in SMD either so you can't get one through that method.

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>tfw nobody fucks up in Sky dungeons anymore
>tfw nobody to rescue in Sky

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>>27568153
what's wrong with cuteposting

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>>27568252
>still didn't unlock "Successful Friend Rescues"
Looks like I'm never completing the Adventure Log

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>>27568252
I've always 5 reviver seeds with me no matter what, been doing that since RT. However, if I do fuck up I'll post it here.

Also does anyone have some good movesets for Mew in Sky?

>tfw since i posted my guides there's been a sudden drop in rescue requests

Looks like they work.

>>27568395

Give mew Blizzard/Confusion/Dark Pulse/Wide Slash?

>>27568428
dark pulse doesn't exist

>>27568819
wait a sec this isn't explorers my bad


Don't get Blizzard, it's fucking trash in RT. Get Bullet Seed and Tbolt then

>>27568819
>>27568999
>Mew in Sky
Lol

>>27568213
>You can recruit any Pokemon in SMD, but only one of most species. Igglybuff can't evolve into Jigglypuff in SMD either so you can't get one through that method


SMD fucked up so much with recruiting mechanics I can almost not believe it

>>27571415
It really feels like evolving was just thrown in as an afterthought, considering you get zero stat ups from it and a lot of pokemon can't evolve to begin with.

>>27568213
alright, so that's a no? the closest I can get is igglybuff?

>>27571508
No, he's just saying the only way to get Jigglypuff is to get the Pokémon itself, you can't just recruit Igglybuff and evolve it.

>>27571508
You recruit one of everything

>>27562092
>>27560502
>>27560510
>>27560522
Kill yourselves

>>27571548
I think you should leave, 4chan is notorious for making people gay.

>>27571585
Faggots are abominations, they should not be allowed to exist.

>>27571610
You smell funny

>>27571610
Stay away from away from us if you don't want to become a faggot.

>>27571548
>>27571585
>>27571610
>>27571640
>>27571662
this has nothing to do with exploring

>>27571681
I wanna explore your ass with my dick!

>>27571640
>>27571662
Not an argument. Homosexuality is disgusting and should not be prevalent on /vp/, which is a conservative christian board.

>>27571874
Take a shower

>>27571874
No newfag, that's a meme to make fun of people like you :^)

>>27571533
>>27571538
oh, okay. thanks!

>>27571909
>>27571938
If you can't defend the fact that you're revolting perverts then don't come to /vp/

>>27571975
Hi cutie

>>27572011
Hang yourself.

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>get to post game in super
>realise I can't nickname my pokemon
Well I've had my complaints with this game and they've all been pretty small but this is bullshit.
I'm going back to Sky again.

>>27572038
Seems pretty baffling as to why they did that

>>27572036
Show me your legs

>>27572036
Stop responding to the retard.

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>all this shitposting

>>27572038
For now all we can really hope for is a startermod, since the protagonist and partner can at least be named. There's a lot of small annoyances in Super that none of the other games have.

A new PMD which trades all of the plot in exchange for constant character interaction almost like a dating sim

Y/N?

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>>27572574
>Wanting Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Persona

>>27572038
On the other hand, no nicknaming relieves me from the hours spent trying to think of a nickname.

>>27572574
No.
Captcha: arrivederci

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i'm not entirely sure how this works but i died at mt faraway on blue rescue team. could someone rescue me? this stuff works on emulators right?

respond to this post if you're coming, i'll probably give up in a few hours

>>27572929
>this stuff works on emulators right?
Yeah.

I'm coming I guess

>>27572574
Only if it had lewds and very good writing.

>>27573078
don't count on me btw

>>27573078
awesome

>>27573240
but i have to

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Man, why did Super have to drop the ball on Mega evolution so hard? It's limited to an extremely rare item that only lasts 2-3 floors, and once it ends the Mega pokemon just kills all of your other pokemon. I 100%ed the game in 90 hours yet used mega evolution maybe 4-5 times in total.

Super would probably be my favorite mystery dungeon if it wasnt for this bullshit

>>27573317
I'm guessing they didn't want it to be heavily focused on since only a fraction of the starters have megas evolutions in their evolutionary line. If not, then the usual reasoning of the game being rushed out before gen 6 "ended"

>>27572929
whoa, shit, rescues work on the old games, too?

>>27573571
They didnt even need to make megas that powerful. they could have just made it increase your stats by 50% permanently at the cost of not having a bracelet, or something like that

>>27573588
they're password based, they'll always work

also when the fuck will this shitty fucking ink splotch captcha FUCK OFF and when will the numbers come back

>>27572929
>>27573078
>>27573240
I did it!

9Y?84 QTNW+?Q 9J9?2
4W5?- MP5F5?FV -00PR
?5SN3 43THS? T7R

>>27573654
Have you tried restarting your connection? That usually fixes it for me.

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Need help
>super
>team is me as cyndaquil and partner is totodile
>trying to beat the three poliwrathes
Any advice? I try using orbs and seeds but it seems like they get over the status effect of whatever item I used in less then three turns.

>>27573871
>9Y?84 QTNW+?Q 9J9?2
>4W5?- MP5F5?FV -00PR
>?5SN3 43THS? T7R

are you sure this is right? i think you missed a few characters in the first and third lines, and i also can't input v in the password

>>27573871
...What
so apparently 4chan takes away male/female signs for no actual reason. ok

9Y?84 QTNW+*?Q 9J9?2
4W5?- MP5F5?FY -00PR
?5SN3 *43TH*S? T7R-*

* = female
- = male

>>27574098
...Sorry, it was a Y. Now it should be good.

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>>27574127
am i entering this correctly? it still isn't working

>>27574265
8J9?2
sorry

>>27574355
hey it worked, thanks. should i send you any item for a reward?

>>27573874
Try focusing target per target and spamming aliance

>>27573654
yeah, but I didn't know they even had it. it's pretty neat

>>27573874
spam orbs and kill the polywags first
spam revive seeds
spam blast seeds
spam alliances

>>27573874
I found Confustion Orbs to be effective against them, or Knockback Wands.

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When looking for new members, do you look for cute ones, cool ones, or viable ones?

>>27577258
Cute and small to match my characters.

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>>27577258
Cute ones.

>>27560435
See >>27416226

>>27577258
>viable ones
Name 5 unviable PMDmons. You can't

>>27578396
Weedle
Kakuna
Caterpie
Metapod
Ditto

I only have 70 more pokemon to connect to, yet I only have 2 expedition requests.

Should I be worried?

>>27579248
Nah. They're probably just the ones who wander through dungeons, or there might be pokemon hanging around the cafe's or towns you haven't talked to yet.
Once you finish all the requests the connection orb should tell you where the pokemon wandering through dungeons are.

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>>27578396
>>27578458
Is Ditto the most useless mon in PMD?
>only one move with 1 PP
>doesn't gain any moves after transforming
>it just struggles to death

>>27580218
He at least gets some plot relevance/power as a lake guardian, but considering Grovyle was able to steal his Time Gear with ease, that probably doesn't mean much.

>>27580218
Super gave it a use as a trap

>>27580309
But did it improve as a teammate?

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>>27580265
Grovyle works alone so he didn't get confused when Ditto transformed. That Ditto was quite the trickster but Grovyle is such a dull serious guy it probably didn't do anything.

I'm currently going through Zero Isle South with a Froslass, it's been going decently so far, on floor 25 at the moment with a key saved in case I get to the last floor. Should I do updates on the run? Had a few close situations already.

Had a horrible situation earlier when I got flashed to hell by a Volbeat and then got a monster house in the stair room, while the Wonder Tile there teased me. Ended up getting KO'd, but I had a Reviver Seed from an earlier floor.
Also stupidly used Astonish on a Spinda, then it almost killed me in return by using Mimic to copy it.

>>27582037
yeah give updates, i could use it for my guide

>>27582037
Sure, hope you can make it through anon

>>27582037
Well fuck me, I died soon after posting that.
I went to the next floor, with a Growlithe waiting for me in the room I spawned in, I managed to just barely survive and get through the floor, though I risked dying again to kill a Trapinch after seeing that one picked up a Joy Seed. I waited at the stairs to heal and went to the next floor.
I went through the first corridor the next floor (27), and realized as I stepped forward once that I need to drink an Elixir. Of course, that step put me in range of a Dugtrio.
Still had one Icy Wind left that I could use to run away (Due to it having a slowing effect) and drink after surviving a hit, but it missed, so I risked throwing the last status item I had, a Grimy Food. I threw it, and naturally it missed so it fucked my shit up.

Gonna try a few more times, got a Wish Mantle, a Joy Seed and a Life Seed. I had got a few Joy Seeds and a Sitrus Berry in there, but most of the items I got to keep were Apples.

>>27582217
Died again at floor 25 this time, most of this try was uneventful, though stuff happened at the end.
I did find a Kecleon store. He was selling 3 scarves, the one that causes constant hunger, the one that makes you take crits more often, and the one that makes you avoid weather effects. (Which is not great at the start since there is commonly hail, which is good for a Froslass) However, he was selling a Life Seed, so I sold a sticky Gold Ribbon I had held onto, and a few useless TMs to buy it.

As for my death, I had a Trapinch chasing me, and ended up with a Ledyba on one side, a Growlithe+Trapinch on the other, all the while on low HP with no PP or Elixirs. I decided to risk using a Switcher Orb on Ledyba and hope it used its basic attack or something useless. It decided to use Comet Punch, and I thought I was fucked, but it tried to hit 4 or 5 times, and missed every one, so I threw a Sleep Seed at it, planning to run away, but the sleep didn't last a single turn, so it finished me off.

In the end I ended up getting a Sitrus Berry, a Joy Seed, a Life Seed and a Zinc.

>>27582770
Saw a Kecleon store on the first floor so of course I had no money or items, so I decided to rob him.
Gained from this run: 7 Plain Seeds.

@PRESCHOOL guy

what if the main character's secret superpower is the ability to gain power beyond the limitations of the pokemon they exist as, and it rubs off on the people they hang around

totally calculated

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Oddish has really small eyes that kinda make it hard to have it express emotions with. Hopefully I can do it some justice.

Azurill has some portraits I can work with to have some variety though (but its face is also kinda difficult to draw emotions for, in particular the mouth will look off if not drawn right).

I have a question. Why can't we have more of PokéPark battle engine?! Also, how does PokePark fit into the game continuity again? It seems to be populated solely by Pokemon, if I recall correctly. Might be remembering it wrong, though.
>>27583149
If I had money to spare, I would be throwing it at the screen now.

>>27582922
Last run for now, but it was the best so far. Got to floor 56 with Froslass.
Had a lot of close calls that weren't too interesting sadly, just getting hit with a crit and stuff. Got an Escape Orb decently early which I used to escape at floor 56.
Got 6 Sitrus Berries, 1 Joy Seed, 1 Life Seed and 1 Protein, as well as a few rarer orbs. Kinda sad I didn't get many Joy Seeds but oh well, I'm just glad I got to leave with what I got.
Also I completely forgot until now that being over water seems to stop Drifblim from exploding. I also forgot that Froslass can walk over water, haven't played since sometime before PSMD's release.

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>all of these Pokemon exclusive to last 30 floors of Silver Trench
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING

>>27583606
The same thing they were thinking when Exeggcute was ultra rare

Is baton pass worth teaching to an eevee in Eos?
If yes,what move should I replace?I have:

Tail Whip
Tackle
Flail
Bite

Any opinions?

>>27584429
All Baton Pass does in Sky is swap around every pokemon's position in the room. It has very little purpose.

>>27584456
It does only swap?

I thought it did share the stat drops and buffs to everyone in the chain.

>>27584611
It doesn't work like that anywhere in the series. I think it swaps positions with a partner and gives them a random stat up in Super

Why is GtI the one II played the most if I consider it to be the worst one?

>>27584429
>>27584456
>>27584611
>Swapping around everyone's position in the room


>all this happens before you and your starter have even


>FINISHED


>FUCKING


>PRE-SCHOOL

>>27585115
Fuck off.

>>27585124
Stop taking the bait, you autist and/or samefag.

If you want to have your partner be female in the European version of Gates to Infinity, extract this to your SD card and launch NTR before starting a new game.
https://mega.nz/#!Ad4xRYYS!CWDndGCSW-Ye_Prv54WzRCAJmmQDm2Rws_d9Qr0Vskc

>>27585151
That's another ridiculous thing about Sky, the lack of stated genders

>>27585166
You mean Super? I agree. The lack of customisation that game has is a joke.

>>27585166
does super ever state the gender either? I didn't even know that cyndaquil was a girl until this thread. do any characters refer to the mc or partner using gendered pronouns? honest question, not trying to sound condescending.

>>27585166
>Wanting a game to define your gender in binary terms

If I want to imagine that my partner and I are both trans and that my Squirtle has a mutilated wrinkly off-blue turtle cock formed out of his vaginal skin, and that my MtF Pikachu partner had an operation to add that dent into their tail, who are you to judge, bigot?


>>27585188
>does super ever state the gender either?
It doesn't, which is stupid

Another thing which Sky outclasses the other games at

>>27585188
Only in French, Italian, Spanish and German. And the partner is forced to be female because of it.

>>27585178
>get scarves
>only the starters get them
>lose them at the end

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>>27585115
>you and your starter

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I want to try to 100% the game this time. I'll probably give up, but I can try. I'm probably not going to post a lot of screenshots though.

>>27585262
>Zorua

wait a second

>>27585201
The game is largely a mess outside of the story itself, just like Gates to Infinity. Super was a step forward to recapturing the glory days of Sky, but it still needs work. Here's hoping that the Gen VII version will outdo Sky and be amazing.

>"Let's make Super Mystery Dungeon trickier than previous games... by encouraging you to cheese stat-boosting items and give you a massive amounts of wands to spam, which can be used endlessly on bosses"

>Oh, by the way, we're going to give you a level 50+ Salamence and Dragonite within your first few missions before you've even left for Lively Town and are still considered children in kindergarten

>Uh yeah, you know how your character talks all the time about being really excited to complete the World Map and explore the world looking for beautiful sights and amazing treasures? Well.... We're going to let you make other Pokemon who are members of your team---

>Oops! They're not even part of your team, you're just 'connected' to them, which makes them acquaintances who'll tag along if you're lucky, my bad-

>We're going to let you make other 'mons the leader and give you the ability to not include your main Pokemon and their partner at all, completely killing the immersion, stability of the main story, and piss all over the main "I'm doing this because I love adventure" arc. I know that Rescue and Explorers didn't let you do this until the postgame for very good reasons but hey fuck it right? Oh, also, you can switch over and make that roided-up, massively overleveled Salamence the leader at any time you're in trouble. B-but it's still a tough game, promise!

>But before you complain that these grossly high-level pseudo-legendaries are too powerful, DON'T WORRY! We make them go on a break for one day after you use them. What? You'll just switch to Dragonite after Salamence goes on break? W-well...

>>27585337
>Fuck! In fact, here's a system which actually ENCOURAGES you to use teams made up of different Pokemon instead of using your two main ones! Who cares about story and the feeling of your two main characters bonding throughout your adventures, right? It's not as if Mystery Dungeon ever relied much on plot!

>IQ? Fuck that grinding shit! Let's just slap them on emeras instead and hope you get lucky lol

>You've beaten the game? GREAT!
>What's that? You think that the "Going on a break" mechanic will be removed now that you've done everything, finally allowing you to build a stable team of three Pokemon that you can use on any adventures you want to? Bad news for you, fucker!

>We hated the comfy laid-back atmosphere of brotherhood in Sky where you could all chill out in Spinda's Cafe together as a real team (not just a ragtag coalition of various "connected" Pokemon - Oh, by the way, you're not allowed to nickname them either. Fuck customisation!) preparing for adventures. You'll almost ALWAYS have to use a different team every time!

>>27585337
>>27585353
We fucking get it. I don't think anyone here except for that one obsessed guy who's always arguing with you (assuming you're the FUCKING PRESCHOOL poster) tries to say that Super is better than Sky overall. Can't we all just get along and hope that the next one is better?

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>>27585353
>You think that the "Going on a break" mechanic will be removed now that you've done everything, finally allowing you to build a stable team of three Pokemon that you can use on any adventures you want to? Bad news for you, fucker!
mfw I took it as a given that this would be removed when the main story was over because they'd never repeat something like that bullshit "your team scattered to their friend areas" restriction from Rescue Team

don't even fucking remind me

>>27585353
>Who cares about story and the feeling of your two main characters bonding throughout your adventures, right?
ughhhhhhhh this.

I don't understand why the same company making updated and rehashed (not complaining, it's just the way Pokemon games go) versions of the same game can be so scattered on this issue from game to game

Rescue Team was an almost hilarious slap in the face because of how within MINUTES of gameplay time after the emotional ending your partner comes up to you and says "lol i'm fucking off to live somewhere else and you never have to see me again... nothin personnel kid"

Sky (as usual) absolutely nailed it by locking you together forever with varying degrees of intensity throughout the entire game, not just the main story

Super... Whose idea was it to let you not even have to use your two partners during much of the main story? Is it for the sake of feeling like things were more customisable? An odd thing to do considering they won't even let you fucking nickname your teammates

>>27585393
Actually, I'm neither of those. The guy shitting on Sky is falseflagging. I sperged out and took the bait last thread and I'm sorry for allowing the thread to get shitted(?) up like that, I'll try not to do it again.

>>27585504
I agree that RT handled it in the worst way possible, but Super doesn't force you to use other Pokémon, if anything it ALLOWS you to, while other games force use to not use them.

>>27585504
>Whose idea was it to let you not even have to use your two partners during much of the main story?
I don't really get this issue, honestly. If you want to only use your starters, go for it. If you'd prefer to use something else, you can do that too. Everyone but the most hardcore of autists should be happy with this.

>>27585556
>The guy shitting on Sky is falseflagging.
i can understand that if he was just vomiting "SALAMENCE???? BEFORE LEAVING PRESCHOOL? KEEEEEEEEEEK!!!" but those walls of text do have some good points in them even if they're obnoxious and annoyingly greentexted

>>27585559
It encourages using different pokemon to an unhealthy extent. Imagine if you were playing the main games and if you sent out a non starter too much you just got a message saying "the pokemon's on break come back in a few hours"

>>27585594
Starter and partner never have any break though.

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>>27585563
>Everyone but the most hardcore of autists should be happy with this

>>27585581
I don't claim the game is perfect, its flaws are just grossly exaggerated.

>>27585602
That's why i said non starter. I mean I was going to use Chespin all the time anyways so that bit works out, but I shouldn't have to burn off a couple days by entering a tiny dungeon over and over just to use what i want.

>>27585594
But that's the break system, which literally nobody will ever defend. There's nothing wrong with simply having the ability to use other Pokémon if you want to.

>>27585353
>>27585337
IQ was removed in Gates to Infinity. Granted, Team Skills were a replacement of IQ.

>>27585642
I think it's a bit off to have a team composed of pokemon outside your main duo, at least that early in the game.


All in all, can we all agree that Super is a good, yet flawed game?

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>>27585604
I'm not proud

>>27585673
>All in all, can we all agree that Super is a good, yet flawed game?
Ehhh... "Good yet flawed" is code for "Meh" in so many situations

If that's what you mean, then yes. It's certainly no Explorers

>>27585685
Don't get me wrong i had some good times with Super, but looking back there are certainly a good deal of flaws.

>>27585677
I like how the guild would have absolutely collapsed if Wigglytuff didn't have Chatot, and vice versa

It really pushed home those "you are my precious partner" feels from Brine Cave

>tfw I still haven't played Special Episode 5 just so that I can feel that there's some aspect of the game left that I haven't completed

I get really sad and empty when I beat something 100% for some reason, knowing that there is absolutely NOTHING left to do. Does anyone else get this?

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>>27585284
Yep.
http://www.fort42.com/ar3ds/game318/546/
The list is wrong, the ID for Zorua is 66h

>>27585744
It's shit anyway. Grovyle and Dusknoir go back to the future and then suddenly a fucking Level 55 Salamence comes out of nowhere with two preschoolers riding on his back and kills you both

>>27585759
>4F

For some reason that text, and the little background it's on really REALLY remind me of Super Mario SUnshine.

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>>27585721
Reminder that Chatot is the ONLY guild member that can handle Zero Isle South

>>27585744
Absolutely, that's how i feel about PMD as a whole. It's the whole reason i made most of those guides you see in the OP. I've put so much time into these games and I try to make them last as long as I can.

>>27585759
For a second i thought you named yourself Zorua to mess with us.

>>27585761
Ok anon this one was kind of funny but it would have been better if it wasn't shitposted before

>>27585761
>his
Check your privilege, genders are never stated in Super!

>>27585673
>I think it's a bit off to have a team composed of pokemon outside your main duo, at least that early in the game.
I agree, but forcing that on everyone doesn't benefit anyone, just restricts those who want to do things differently.

>a good, yet flawed game
Of course
I still think it's the best though, but let's not go there

>>27585761
kek

>>27585784
Now I need to learn new moves since I still have Axew's. I still have Mold Breaker too, maybe I'll mess around with cheats to change it.

>>27585835
That sounds like the same problem people were having when they were trying to get custom starters in Super to work.

If I remember correctly, getting custom starters in Sky by using Action Replay instead of Sky Editor also causes a similar issue where the characters retain their moveset before instead of one fitting their actual species, and also fucks with their appearance in special episodes.

>>27585906
Yes, but in this case if I remember correctly learning the proper moves later on isn't a problem, so I should be fine.

Reminder that Team Skull died in Brine Cave

How exactly do I get custom starters to work in Gates? Do I just scan the QR code? Have CFW installed if that helps.

>>27586039
>they appear in Super
I don't think so.

>>27586060
QR code cheats only work on the original 3DS using the 9.2 web browser. Otherwise you should use NTR, but you need to convert the codes first.

>>27585115
I just wanted to ask if i should teach my character baton pass but you just had to butt in and meme me.Faggot

>>27586075
>>27586039
>they appear in Super

>Dissatisfied with its own shit status, Super has to dig up Team Skull, completely ruining the heartbreaking moment in Brine Cave when Skuntank realises that he, Koffing and Zubat are completely fucked and aren't leaving the place alive

>LOOK!!!! LOOK!!!!!! CHARACTERS FROM PREVIOUS GAMES!!!! DO YOU LIKE THIS ONE YET?


Disgraceful

>>27586075
>Thinking Super is canon

lol

>>27586110
Yes and Green's Rattata too.

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I'm not sure if this is running in place, it just looks strange.

preschool

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>>27586968

>>27586260
Zorua a cute

>>27585673
I've used this metaphor before but personally I think of Super as the Skyward Sword of PMD - it makes a whole bunch of changes to the core formula all at once to try and shake things up, yet it also tries to celebrate the series at the same time, so it just ends up feeling weird and, as you said, flawed. Still an okay game, but flawed.

I feel like I'm the only one who really only cares about your starter and partner in Super and doesn't really give a shit about the break mechanic because I always saw additional members as a third wheel anyway.

Also who in fucks name doesn't understand that the Salamance and Dragonite are there for children who want EASY MODO. Just don't use them.

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>>27587518
it's time to stop

>>27589385
>abandon thread
They can't win. It's not fair.

>>27589405
>>27589385
Shit, that was meant for>>27586968

>>27589141
>Also who in fucks name doesn't understand that the Salamance and Dragonite are there for children
Oh we know perfectly well that they're there for children considering they're connected with before your main and partner Pokemon have


>EVEN


>LEFT


>FUCKING


>PRE-SCHOOL


WHAT A LOAD OF OLD SHITE

>>27589486
this meme needs to stop

>>27589608
You need to stop replying to it.

>>27589486
>>27589608
>>27589626
It's the perfect bait because it makes Super fanboys respond in the best possible way. Logic-wise the trolling is impossible to counter because it's absolutely true and reflects on just how fucked up Super is, so they have to get angry at it.

That being said, fuck off. We've already accepted ITT except for that one diehard Super defender (who is probably a troll himself) that Sky is the best Mystery Dungeon game.

>>27589671
>having a different opinion is trolling
I'm just a sperg. Also I'm not the only one who has this opinion.

>>27589671
>We've already accepted ITT except for that one diehard Super defender (who is probably a troll himself) that Sky is the best Mystery Dungeon game.
It's time you stop saying this. Oh, right, you're the Salamance shitposter samefagging. Wow.

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GtI has a lot of bosses facing an unusual way.

I keep forgetting that the Timburr follow you just for those 2 floors. The different music is nice, it's only there for one floor though, in this dungeon at least.

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I didn't remember about this boss battle. I thought it was just going to make it look like there would have been one, but then getting stopped by the partner.

>>27589790
>Anyone who likes Sky is the Salamenceposter

I'm sure this style of replying to people won't lead to any problems at all :/

>>27589874
That's not what I said. Don't put words in my mouth.

Who else /climbSkyPeakforfun/ here? Shaymin Village is one of my favorite locations in the series.

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HOW CAN SUPERAUTISTS EVEN FUCKING COMPETE?

>>27589927
Sending Sky Gifts to your ingame friends is very sweet

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Customizing the colours of your home is a nice detail, but if I remember correctly you need to reach the postgame before being able to do it. It reminds me about the flags from RT.

Talking about little details, is anyone else disappointed that Gates to Infinity and Super don't have something similar to the Pokémon News from RT and the diaries from Explorers?

technically it's not preschool, you're just "school age" which could mean far older

>>27589927
I /climbSkyPeakforGAINS/

>you're just "school age" which could mean far older
Is this the Salamence shitposter? No fucking way could anyone seriously say this, please tell me you are because if so people who try to defend Super Mystery Dungeon are dumber than I thought.

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>>27589972
>technically it's not preschool, you're just "school age" which could mean far older


WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhAHA SUPERAUTISTS IN FULL DAMAGE CONTROL

>>27589945
>no option to give a sky gift to a recruited teammate

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>>27589966
I really liked the news.
>the one about the gas leak
>"The answer, apparently, is blowing in the wind."

>>27590098
>tfw I thought there was a gas leak ITT but it turns out it's just all the hot air coming from Super defenders who are seriously trying to excuse RECRUITING A LEVEL 50 PSEUDOLEGENDARY BEFORE LEAVING PRESCHOOL

>>27590074
>no option to even fucking nickname 'recruited teammates' in Super

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This mission is nice and Emolga is cute!

>>27590244
dude we get it you don't like super, quit shitting these threads up with your stupid shit already. The way you talk it's like the game killed your family and bricked your 3ds

>>27590283
Go away false-flagging Salamence.

>>27590280
>Stompstump
I want more goofy dungeon names.

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>thread's current situation in one image

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>>27589927

>Send Chatot a Sky Gift

>Receive reply

>"I must say, I was very surprised to receive this from you"

>very surprised

>the guy literally saved our lives in Brine Cave

>surprised to get a gift

What's his problem?

>>27590392
He realized he was a massive prick to you throughout the entire game before that point

>>27590418
I wouldn't say that, he was just an authoritative counter to Wigglytuff's DUDE PERFECT APPLES LMAO attitude

Chatot did nothing wrong and his rigorous training helped make our teams what they are today

>>27589966
I prefer the nice wooden colours anyway.

I didn't really notice their absence, but now you mention it I'm a little disappointed.
The news was great. It had cute little stories and it was a real nice way to give in-game hints and advice. I'd love to see it return.
The diaries were mainly just retelling the events of the story with added catchphrases, but they were a nice touch nonetheless.

>>27590418
>keep working goy, the guild appreciates the funding
>by the by, thanks for saving the world twice
Nah, he's still got his priorities as straight as he can throw them.

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>>27590450
>Chatot did nothing wrong

>obvious evil team
>they seem like nice chaps

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>>27590327
I also like the dungeon itself and its music. I think they could improve the parts outside of the dungeons in future games, I think they can be potentially good. Most of the time in Gates to Infinity they just feel kind of pointless. At least they give GtI something that makes it a little more interesting, considering the lack of content it has.

>>27590507
The outside parts were kind of neat, but it was only done a couple times

>>27590488
>Super did nothing wrong

>obvious broken mechanic of giving you a LEVEL 50 SALAMENCE BEFORE YOUR TWO MAIN POKEMON'S LEVELS ARE IN DOUBLE DIGITS, BEFORE THEY'VE LEFT PRE-SCHOOL
>this seems like a nice decision

>>27590549
>BEFORE YOUR TWO MAIN POKEMON'S LEVELS ARE IN DOUBLE DIGITS
shitposting aside, you're really underleveled.

>>27590670
It's probably the result of the other meme that the best way to win fights is to avoid them. People do it and then complain when they're too weak.

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>level fucking fifty

>>27590702
To be honest I feel them on that one, at least somewhat. I thought Super was okay, but finishing the game in the low 20s range was really underwhelming. I never did use them outside of story missions once I got enough Pokemon to make a team of three without em, and after the postgame story I pretty much dropped them entirely.

Kind of a shame. It's like the partner thing in Rescue Team, except it happened to both of them.

you know, Salamence meme aside, i do agree that it's kind of stupid how often the game does hand out the superpowered mons, even for the easiest missions

like... the whiscash mission, for instance. that was the easiest as shit mission and i got team awd for it, and it just felt dumb. i get that it's a rescue team reference, but it felt like i got rewarded for barely doing anything

>>27590846
Maybe it was just me then, because while Explorers and Gates had me at low 40s, Rescue Team had me at level 25/26. I didn't see anything wrong with Super doing the same thing.

>>27590932
er, not team awd, team act. teams with acronym names should be banned because i confuse them

>>27590941
Well, that's kind of the thing to me, actually. Friend of mine replayed Rescue Team last year and he was actually around that same range when he reached Rayquaza (he decided not to put story missions off to grind or anything, to see how things went like that), and Rayquaza promptly thrashed him because he was such a low level. And like, he's not bad at the game or anything, he's beaten all four games, it was simply a matter of him being so underleveled. He ended up getting into the rut of "I've used up almost all of my items in storage because of dying over and over so now all I can do is ram my head against the wall".

That's kind of why it feels so underwhelming in Super to me. In Explorers and Gates it felt like that chance of "I'm too underleveled to beat X section of the game no matter how many items I have" was really slim, while it's back in full force in Super.

>>27591036
>In Explorers and Gates it felt like that chance of "I'm too underleveled to beat X section of the game no matter how many items I have" was really slim, while it's back in full force in Super.

So you just didn't happen to come across wands which stack up to 25 and work without fail on all bosses then hmmmmm ok

>>27591036
I never got into that rut so that's why it's so foreign to me. Not trying to say I'm great at the games just like your friend isn't just bad at Rescue Team but it just never happened to me in these games outside of the Moltres fight. I never got the "Gentle" Slope Cave meme or the second Rev. Mountain visit spike.

It's what makes talking about the difficulty of these games so difficult for me because I sound like a git gudder when in reality I probably just chose good Pokémon and got lucky a bunch. I almost feel bad because it feels like I can't properly discuss these games since I didn't feel other people's pains.

>>27591209
>I almost feel bad because it feels like I can't properly discuss these games since I didn't feel other people's pains.
Replay them and ask around as to what starters would be the hardest to use

>>27589671
Rescue Team is the best Mystery Dungeon game tho.

>>27591209
>>27591231
Rescue Team: Fire/Grass

Explorers: Eevee/Water

>>27591209
I've always wanted to make a video on Super because I still feel very strongly about it (again I don't love it, I think it's okay-but-flawed, so it wouldn't be a tremendously positive video), but it's pretty much stuff like that that keeps me from going through with the idea. I know for sure that I didn't pick great Pokemon for Super - I got exactly who I expected for myself (Riolu, who I've been given without fail since my first Sky run) and I picked Oshawott as my partner since I like him and he turned out to fit the partner personality in hindsight - but I think that's another problem with restricting the player to such low levels, since it ultimately makes each Pokemon great or bad depending on its early early moveset. Sure, Pokemon still have problems even if you raise the level range to 40s-during-endgame, but it's not as restricted as Super is.

>>27591187
Nah, I just spammed Alliance Attacks with the strongest moves I had since they ignore type matchups and it was more efficient than fighting properly. Felt dumb desu

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>you can't actually name your team "Emolga's Enforcers"
Any suggestion?

>>27591435
That always pissed me off on the first playthrough. Would they add the suffix "Team" to it or would we have to ourselves, etc

>>27591435
I named my team The Enforcers. It's the closest you can get.

>>27591462
It's strange that it only happens in English.

>>27591356
>Fire/Grass
Bulbasaur/Cyndaquil
>Water
Totodile

For reference so you all can make fun of me, my first playthrough teams were:
RT: Pikachu/Squirtle
EoS: Riolu/Torchic (can't remember actual original but this was the combo I used when I played it most recently)
GtI: Oshawott/Snivy
SMD: Froakie/Fennekin

I've tried out a couple other combos for RT (Cubone/Pikachu, Charmander/Mudkip) and Super (playing as Mudkip, Riolu, Chespin, Treecko, and Snivy but never changing Fennekin because 2cute) but I never got around to replaying Explorers so I'll probably do that first.

An exclusive look into the mind of the Superfag, limited time only.

>>27591544
>Bulbasaur/Cyndaquil
Change that shit
Bulbasaur is part poison and gets overpowered moves and Cyndaquil gets Smokescreen which is also overpowered

Totodile for Sky is a good choice though

>>27591578
>Totodile for Sky is a good choice
Not with those sprites

>>27591578
>Cyndaquil gets Smokescreen
>Bulbasaur is similarly OP
Fucking hell, I can't win.

So Chikorita/Torchic?

>>27591635
That works

I wonder how you'll cope without your pseudolegendaries THAT ARE HIGHER LEVEL THAN THE FINAL BOSS, given to you within LESS THAN AN HOUR OF GAMEPLAY

>>27591693
I'll manage, thanks for the pseudoconcern :^)

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Azumarill never really gets any direct explanation. It feels a bit out of place. At least it's not as pointless as Foongus though.

>>27591746
Quagsire for best Gates character

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>>27591693
This bait is so bad, I feel sorry for that anon.

He must be living a hard, rough life in a cartoon box, under a bridge. He probably just recently got an access to electricity!

>>27591746
he grew up and left treasure town to become an explorer helper

Remember when people complained about Virizion?

>>27591855
Why? What's wrong with her?

>>27591786
>Posting a reaction image from some fat Jewess' LGBTQPZ propaganda cartoon
>Expecting your post to be read

Don't fink so!

>>27591873
They thought having a legendary at the beginning of the game was bad because it made it easy, without realizing it's easy regardless.

>>27591906
>not liking some fat jewess' lgbtqpzyevk25f propaganda cartoon
I was happy that /v/ came here at first, but not it's time you leave

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>>27591906
Sorry, can't hear you, I am drowning in cuteness.

Your puns are kinda fishy.

>>27591946
>I was happy that /v/ came here at first
In what world would you ever be happy about this

>>27592321
It was actual discussion at first.

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>tfw resetting my old Red Rescue Team save from when I was 13
>tfw haven't played any PMD game since I was 13
Looks like it's time for nostalgia. Any advice? I don't remember shit.

>>27593049
attract is stupid overpowered
you can change the tactics of pokemon in your party
if you faint somewhere you can request a rescue in this thread using passwords

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