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This game still exists
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>>27521463
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>>27521463
No, no it doesn't.
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>>27521463
That Dragonite in the picture looks like a fucking flying slug.
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>>27521463
For now, no thanks to Niantec.
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Anyone got the thing that let's me play from my PC?
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>>27521463
and you're still complaining on a Malaysian image board
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>>27521673
No I'm not
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>evolved 1205 CP Weepinbell
>only went up 600 points

The fuck, man.
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>>27521463
The SM leaks blew that repetitive shit out of the water. It's dead.
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does anyone know what tiny pidgey evolves into
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>>27521798
They're doing new Space Marine stuff already?

Being an Ork player is suffering :(
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>>27521463
I might open the app again in two weeks if there's another update.
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>>27521463
Great art, love Pokemon GO!
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>>27521859
>two weeks of lost gains and missed perfect IV Pokemon

How the fuck are oyu planning to dominate your town/block?
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>>27521839
A mate of mine had this happen to him but with an Eevee
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>want to play this game
>this update is utter dogshit tier and now everyone is slowly losing interest and boting

Makes me really wanna drop it. Will probably keep playing for a while longer and hope for the best. It's at least a good excuse for being social and going out.
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>local gym disappeared

Any chance it comes back?
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Reminder that the 'three step bug' wasn't a bug at all, it was a feature. Niantic implemented the 'bug' to alleviate server strain.

Fucking idiots
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>>27522048
At level 20 im dropping this shit
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>>27522483
You think Niantic is intentionally driving players away to lower server strain? That's some crazy conspiracy stuff bro
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I've got a question about Pokemon "level". Does everything have the same caps based on your trainer level? I've got two drowzee, one level 21, one level 17.5, but the lower level one has almost perfect IVs. I'd like to use that one, but the other one end up stronger overall because I caught it at a higher level? I'm in a similar space with my eevee. Really good IVs, but I caught him back at level 16 or so.
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>Be yellow
>At park
>Fight blue gym
>Win
>Hear car start up behind me
>Drives off
>Gym is now red

I took it back, but that was weird.
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The gym system is such fucking garbage. I hope they implement something more entertaining to do with the pokemon I've caught. Once I've cashed out my complimentary pokeshekels I'm done with it. Attacking is so much easier than defending. The printer in office space puts up more of a fight than a defending team.
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>>27522760
But if they make defending much easier you could end up with a handful of strong players completely dominating all the gyms in an area
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>>27522630
Pokémon of the same species have the same cap based on your level, you could candy the lower drowzee to match the other one and the only difference would be IVs moves and such
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>>27522649
You're a marked man, better hide for the rest of your days.
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>>27522792
Yeah, the system is garbage like I said. It needs to be reworked entirely.
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>>27522852
Ohhhh shit. Okay. So they have the same ceiling, provided I've caught them both at the same trainer level?

So then that eevee I caught back at 16 is probably not worth jack, good IVs or no?
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>>27522649
People are seriously weird with this game. I went to my local park at 2 in the morning to take over the gym, because who the hell would reclaim it that late? Within 10 minutes it was beaten.
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>>27522949
The cap is based on your current level, not the level you were when you caught it. You will just have to spend more stardust to level it up than you would for a pokemon with higher CP
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So does a Curveball increase the chance of catching a Pokemon? I havent updated and am still playing on the version where you get bonuses for NICE,GREAT,EXCELLENT throws. Been trying to aim for excellent throws and they keep breaking out but noticed when i finally catch a pokemon thats being difficult, somehow I get the curveball bonus.
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>>27522649
This is why you should play on bluestacks. There's some weird fucking people out there. At least they didn't try to talk to you. When I walked there was so much awkward silence with the occasional asshole casual that wanted to talk about how he found a Geodude. In my head in just screaming, "GO AWAY. NEVER TALK TO ME OR MY GRANDMA AGAIN." And speaking of which, that bitch was terrible at slowing her van down for pokestops anyways. Things didn't go well with her with Ingress about a year ago, why should it now? I'm like, "Bitch, I don't care if there's a no parking sign. Just stop! There's like 3 stops I have to get right here." And then God forbid I see Pokemon and try to catch it. Then I'm just fucking blind about the roads. Sigh, women. So brain dead.
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>>27523137
/r/pokemongo might appreciate your humour more, friend
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Need help!

Should I evolve this guy? What kind of CP can I expect from the Dragonite?

I'm level 20.
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>Fuck this update! No one likes it! Pokemon GO is losing users every day! Niantic has failed! Wahh wahh wahh!
http://nintendoeverything.com/?p=436411
BLOWN
THE
FUCK
OUT
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>>27522973
While I was out last night, an instinct player followed me around in his car and took everything back as soon as I left. Unless I got one that was somewhere he couldn't park. He let those go.

Once I realized he wasn't giving up I switched off my phone for like an hour and came back and continued. It worked and a got my shekels but I hate that this poorly designed system forced me into this.(my previous point >>27522760 )
What would have happened if I decided to challenge him instead of fleeing? We would have gotten into a who can buy more potions contest because it's impossible for the attacker to lose and the gym would have switched hands eternally.
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Ive been having fun playing this game so far, but I do run into a lot of people that annoy me. My towns majority of gyms/stops are on a campus and I always run into people who bitch about anything past Gen 1, or bitch that a lure wasn't placed down the second they got there. I keep getting stopped by people who want me to vote for Hillary. I ended up having this guy stalk me and talk about his Pokemon for like 2 hours.

I think i prefer talking to kids. At least theyre excited about everything and just want to catch them all too.
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>>27521839
Bigger pidgey
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>>27523287
holy shit, thats like around 2000 cp
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>>27522441
Nope. Once it's gone, it's gone.
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>>27523306
The update does suck anon, if you legitimately think lowered catch rates and more annoying catches is a good update then you're pretty much a retard.

The removing tracking also only encourages outside resources.

The game for me is personally becoming a chore, only playing it for social reasons right now. Good way to start convos and found out normie levels.
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Post poke
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>>27523315
Shit that would be amazing!
I've upgraded him only twice as well, so he still has 2-3 upgrades left on my current level.

I've caught 3 Dratini and this Dragonair today, I believe it could be a weak nest.
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>>27522993

Thanks m8y. This info was surprisingly hard to nail down, appreciate it
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>>27522583
It's not a conspiracy. Many people familiar with the app know how easy it is to "fix" the tracking. The only answer is that they don't want to because calculations of nearby for every player puts too much strain on the servers.
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How long until niantic releases a paid scanner?

They already decreased catch rate so you have to spend more money on balls (good thing i bot)
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>>27523445
That's pretty great, what level are you?
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>people are still playing this trash

I thought at the very least plebs that go on /vp/ would know better, but I guess some of you are literally normies
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>>27523253
I think that guy, not me, brought up legitimate points, not humor, my British pal.
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>>27523445
PLS NO BULLY
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>>27523445
would bang/10.

r8 mine.
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>>27521513
yes it does, autismo
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>>27523287
Yeah you should probably evolve it
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>>27523307
Maybe you should've called the cops and reported that some weirdo was following you around the park in his car.
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>This game still exists
Thanks for reminding me, it's not like it is being shoved into my face every second of every day by normies or anything.
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>>27523445
nice hack
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>>27523287
just use the calc:
2,037 < 2,097 > 2,157
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I am the most normie ITT
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>>27523583
If I start doing calling the cops it might become the new meta.
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>>27523445
You have a pretty good variety.
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>>27523668
Do you have a job, friends, a girlfriend, not live with your parents, and enjoy sports?
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>>27523728
>Job
Yes
>friends
kind of
>girlfriend
no
>not live with your parents
moved out after graduating college
>enjoy sports
yes
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>>27523761
You are less normie than me. Want to play GTA together?
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R8
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>>27523445
>live in Netherlands, country of water
>water pokes out the ass
>Dratini's for days even though all the nests got removed
Feels good man
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>>27523856
not impressed

bot/10
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>>27523856
>being proud of spoofed/botted 'mons
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>>27523709
Oh well. That guy needs to learn that following strangers around in his car at night isn't acceptable behavior, even when playing Pokemon Go. Also he sounds like a complete douchebag so he deserves it
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>>27523856
>rate my bot
noty
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>>27523856
Shit/10
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>>27523863
>Dragonite
>97.8%
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>>27523856
bot/10

Why are you such a faggot?
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>>27523877
>automatically assuming everyone with high cp mons is a bot
>implying i have had anythung better to do than just camp the local patks for 3 weeks
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Well i hit lvl 25. Im still not able to maintain a gym as im the only yellow, but i can easily sweep the gyms.
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>>27523953
>Actually pretending your bot's mons are your own
You're really fucking pathetic
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>>27523879
I knew him in high school and can confirm he was a douchebag.
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I'm fucking dying, man. Is there a PV alternative that I can take on the go that doesn't require a PTC login? I need it bad
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>>27523975
Yep. I really get off on bragging about false things on an anonymous image board.
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>>27523975
>i suck at the game so it's impossible for anyone else to be good at it
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>got two eggs incubating
>first one hatches
>it's a Ratata
>second hatches
>it's a Doduo
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>>27523953
Shut the fuck up faggot, we're not that stupid.
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>>27524000
There's no such thing as being good at this game. It literally all depends on how much you play, or how many pokestops you live near. To actually suggest there's any skill involved in this game at all is pure, unrefined autism.
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>>27524074
yet seeing someone with better pokemon than you makes you so irrationally angry that you have to accuse them of cheating
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>>27524100
>implying I was the person you were responding to
I was just pointing out how retarded you sounded.
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Is there any point in looking at the Nearby list anymore?
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>>27524058
>someone spends more time on something than me
>nice bot m8

It's literally just grinding.
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>>27521781
>only 600

That's 1800 you fuck that's strong as hell

>>27521463
I was made aware today that there's now IVs in Go, or were and now people HAVE to get perfect mons. This is why Pokemon is a love hate franchise - it's bad enough when you're playing online in the main games that you have to obsess over them, now they're in a game that likely will never have anything to do with the main games?
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>>27524122
>implying implications
shut the fuck up
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>>27524122
that's nice, i hope it made you feel warm and fuzzy inside
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>>27524137
To laugh at over how laughably bad the list is. Like, a Marowak was still on my list after about a mile of walking away from it
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I used to be a teacher at a highschool and would occasionally get hassled by the security thinking I was a kid messing around with the teachers equipment. To combat this, I grew out a beard and started wearing a tie. It worked. I kept this look for years.
Currently the only place near me that has stops and gyms is a campus a few blocks away. Now I'm getting hassled by the security for looking too old to be a student here. Removed the beard and tie and now everyone thinks im a student and I can just chill inside buildings and catch pokemon.
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>>27523856
Don't have a botting general to go post in?
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>>27523287
Guaranteed 2k dragonite
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>>27524147
Nah

>>27524158
It gave me a raging erection.
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>>27523445
Rate my birdsquad, I'm level 14

Haven't played in a week and I just logged on to screenshot this only to find out they removed footprints or my phone is glitching? I stopped playing when one of my normie friends tried explaining to me what IVs are despite knowing I play the main games. It's a bit nitpicky but I hate when people try to tell me about things I know or have already done, and my defending myself would only come across as whiny. It's like being patronized and not able to say anything
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>>27523953
I know people who work in buildings with multiple stops, that are almost constantly lured that aren't above 25. People above 25 right now are most likely either bots, spoofers, or losers with literally no life outside the game.
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>>27524244
Damn, they must have all flown away. You must be a terrible bird keeper
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>>27524244
Forgot pic

I really don't get how you guys have such crazy high CP
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>>27524247
I've seen a few people above 25 around my area but I have a feeling those are no lifers, yeah.

>play pretty constantly but not obsessively
>only finally 23 now
>all the grind to get higher

Fuck that, especially with the shitty changes they've done to track pokemon and pokemon being harder to catch.
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>>27523315
>>27523655
>>27524211
Fuck now I need to wait for those Dratinies to spawn, I caught 1 more since my last post.
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I just startedgetting those random freezes after few seconds of playing.
Game just stops and wont budge. Restarting doesnt help.
Am I the only one?
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>>27524247
I don't work.
I don't have kids.

I have plenty of money and plenty of time. There are are12 pokemon there above 2k. That's it. Not an army of dragonite and Snorlax. I don't have any obligations right now outside of a house payment and my car is paid for. This has just given me a little more incentive to get out and not be a shut in. But whatever, believe what yiu want. It's not like I'm showcasing a level 40 account or anything
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>>27524297
>see all these guys above 25, fuckin no life losers right?
>btw I'm lvl 23
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>>27517145
>2000+16
>pokamon board
>using Linux
please take a selfie mate. I'm very curious to see what you and your set up looks like
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>>27524373
Half lifers anon
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>>27521673
>Malaysian image board
I thought this was a Mongolian image board?
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>>27524373
Everytime iShit post from an iOS device in >>>/g/ I get called out. (image.jpg/png)
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>>27524373
I play on my commute to work and weekends.

Also the grind from each level past lvl 20 is exponential, someshit like 100k to get to lvl 23 and I assume like 150k or some shit to lvl 24.
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>>27524270
>crazy high CP
shit starts to hit the fan at above lv20ish
above lv30 you're considered a bot
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>>27524400
>implying there's a difference
3rd world is 3rd world m8
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>>27524247
>Losers with no life
It's summer, to be honest if I were still in school I'd be playing this all the time
But I work so I'm such at level 17 and getting ready to uninstall this shit
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>>27524400
It's a Tibetan Sand Painting board
>sure is summer in here
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>>27524353
You're on summer break, kid. No reason to lie on 4chan..
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>>27524137
I thought it would at least be helpful for water types. Ie, of a water type is nearby and the only water is a small fountain, maybe it's near that. It works sometimes but water types can be so far away from water that even that's not reliable.
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>>27524440
How can you even get to level 18 let alone 20? There's a good amount of stops in my area and decently rare spawns but you'd have to play the game for like multiple hours a day to get even any progress
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>>27524471
I wish I was on summer break. I graduated HS in 07 and finished an absolutely worthless psych degree in 2012.
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>>27524453
Sounds like you played yourself and work too much
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>>27524502
live in a dense urban area and mass evolve trash pokemon for xp
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>>27522973
Valor in my town are usually the late night ones, Instinct is few and far in between and mystic tends to be dominant during the day.

From what I met:
Valor = Older
Mystic= High School
Instinct = Mixed
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>>27524502
Evolving a pokemong gives you 500 exp.
Pidgey costs 12 candy to evolve.
Evolving 60 Pridgey with a Lucky Egg active gives you 60k experience.
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>>27523863
What software is that mate? Cool it with the dratini gone meme. I saw a few last week, thought they were stupid snakes so went for charmanders instead
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>>27524502
you can always pop a lucky egg and evolve a bunch of the pidgeys and ratatas you got. For me, I actually got a lot of exp just from occasionally flipping on my phone and hitting the pokestop im standing on when im shoping or at work.
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With the new update, what's the best eeveelution now?
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>>27524600
It's still vape
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>>27524600
still water dog
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>>27521839
smol birb
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>>27524600
Vaporeon, because Jolteon is still underpowered
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>>27524561
Id need to evolve 180 pidgey just to lvl up lmao
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>>27524668
I've been fighting a 750 Jolteon with a 450 Exeggutor to level up my local gym and the jolt loses every time. I'm not even dodging. Balance patch didn't do much for Jolteon it seems
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>>27524565
Poke Advisor, it's a site that shows you all your mons IV's without having to calculate them by powering them up.

It's also a neat overview of all your pogo account statistics.
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>>27524440
I'm level 18 and can evolve a golem and Rhydon. Should I wait until I'm 20+ then if it would make that big of a difference?
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>>27524753
it depends on their CP
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>>27524729
>PoGo
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>>27523856
fag
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>>27524753
No but don't power them up, as you level up you'll catch higher and higher CP geodudes and ryhorns which you can eventually evolve into higher CP mons withou wasting stardust.
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>build a slot car track that barely fits into room
>go doesn't even pick up the movement
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>>27524353
so you use real money to pay2win?

thats just as pathetic
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>>27524810
If you sit on one place a Pokemon will spawn every 5 minutes while an incense is present. If your'e running or walking a Pokemon spawns every 1-2 minutes.
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I'm losing the will to play this game. Not because of all the glitches and bugs and features that was removed, but because all the friends that I played with it at the start have started spoofing and are getting ahead of me. I'm lvl 28 legit and they're all 30s now. This isn't fun anymore. I hope they all get banned.
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Im so fucking sick of catching pidgeys, ratattas and weedlels.
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>>27523357
Tracking wasn't removed though. They just took away the 3 step visual. Which changes nothing, as it didn't function anyhow.

>>27524145
Exactly why I just ignore all that stuff. I haven't even looked up how to calculate IVs, I know I'll just get irritate after that. I just look at CP to determine who to keep.

>>27524433
I'm level 24 and I have to get 150K to get to 25
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>>27524795
Im lvl 23 just by riding the bus on my way back home, didnt know that they get stronger with your level... Oh well in a few weeks i will gather all my stardust back i hope
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>>27524871
then play a pokemon game that isn't fucking garbage
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>>27521946
sauce?
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>>27524860
No.

I just have too much time on my hands and have tried to used this game to be around people more. It's just made it a little easier for me to talk with others and get out.

Some bad events in my life have left me with some pretty severe social anxiety issues and different phobias.
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>>27524852
>not knowing how movement works in game
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New Pokemon when
I want more variety and less fake fans already
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I've only just figured out you can get coins from having a pokemon in a gym

Fuck me
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>evolve five Arcanines before I get one with Fire Fang
>spawns shift and all local Growlithes become Psyducks
>can't power up Growlithe

Well fuck.
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>>27524885
I'm with you on that
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>>27524347
Nope and they are pretty cancerous senpai.
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>>27524980
well how do they work then ?
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>>27523856
Nice bot
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So what's the best Eeveelution to get now? I already have a Vaporeon and now I have a 373 Eevee
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>>27524561
you need 720 candies or catch 240 pidgeys m8 that's more than a fuck ton
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>>27525088
Every so often (probably four minutes, though it might depend on phones), the game queries your coordinates. You get credit for the shortest distance between where you are at this pong and where you were at the previous ping. If you move more than 25kph at any point, you get no credit.

So if you walk in a circle and are at the same spot when your phone queries, you get no credit.
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>>27525099
Rename it pyro before u evolve it and get pyroreon or whatever it's called the fire one. Radar for the electric ones
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>>27525088
GPS and it's not that accurate. You're in your room ffs.
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>>27525140
I've easily got that many throughout the game. They're great for leveling up
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>>27525035
>Mrs. O'Leary
I'm assuming you're referring to the great Chicago fire.
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>walkerfag
>best mons is a 100% flareon with fireblast
>he isn't all that great anyway
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>>27524145
>That's 1800 you fuck that's strong as hell

I mean, at some point it was. But I already have a Gyarados, Arcanine, Exeggutor, and Vaporeon that are way past that.

Not to mention an increase of only 600 is fucking horseshit. I expected to be at least 2000.
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>>27524729
Is it save to log into this shit with my real google acc where I have my paypal linked to ?
I'm fucking retarded.
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>>27524868
Did they say they spoof?
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>>27525286
>not him
I'm in Chicago. Where do I go to get good mons. River north ain't cutting it and I walked through milienium park last night on my way back from work only caught a paras. The gps is dead there too could even battle a gym I was standing on

I heard Chinatown got some goodies
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>>27525096
It's not a bot though. I have done almost nothing but camp local parks since 7/6.

I have nothing better to do because my life is pretty shit
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>ppd drafting
>lose with huskar
>still choose huskar

Like POTTERY.
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>Niantic changes 1s rescan rate to 5s to 10s
>I literally cannot bike even at a snail's pace and play any more
>will miss one of every three or four Pokemon while playing the game as intended

>all because Niantic is obsessed with trying to bone scanners/botters who make new workarounds in a matter of minutes
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>>27525517
>ppd drafting

All that needs to be said, anon
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>>27525169
This has to be a troll, you know it's flareon , no normie would come here and go this far into this thread
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>>27525099
>>27525169
It depends where you live. I can get firet types in the wild but not electric near me. I'm definitely jolteon for when I get a high IV evee. Especially since there aren't grass either so Jolty is the only way o could counter Vaporeon.
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>>27525305
That's good, don't be such a bitch, power it up
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>>27525562
Jolteon still loses to Vaporeon.

Type effectiveness barely matters when it comes to electric types; they all just suck in every category because Niantic ignores Speed.
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>>27525521
What does this mean? I'm not sure
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>A Charmeleon I caught back in July is in the 91% - 96% range.

Neat, looks like I got a keeper.

>>27524885
>They just took away the 3 step visual. Which changes nothing, as it didn't function anyhow.

As >>27523480 mentioned, that's because Niantic disabled it when they discovered that is was a contributor to the server issues they had.They just had a massive brain fart and kept the step counter in place.

>>27525521

They'll eventually learn that it's next-to-impossible to regulate and just accept it.

Either that or a banned legit player hunts down and beats John Hanke to death, whichever comes first.
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>>27525548
I actually didn't remember but no that u say it that sounds right. Haven't played since gameboy color. Knew about this board cause I'd send weebs back over here when they were shitting in my threads >>>/g/ptg/
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>>27525584
The game used to scan for Pokemon in the radius around you every second. When they first took down Pokevision, they increased that to five seconds to make scanning harder, while simultaneously reducing the scan range from 100m to 70m; not great changes, but it didn't exactly break the game for actual players.

This morning, they changed it to ten seconds. That means that even walking at a below-average 1m/s, you'll still only be seeing about 4 of every 6 Pokemon in your scan radius. When you go any faster, including (very) slowly biking, you're more likely to miss a Pokemon than to see it.

They're literally fucking people over for playing the game as intended, while scanners will just add another 100 scanning accounts to make up for the changes.
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>>27525582
Well shit there goes that plan. My best Pokemon are fire and rock, and I started a week later so I'm only level 17. Looks like there's nothing i can do against the fucking 2400cp vapes in half the gyms.
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>>27525674
Then go back there. Your kind aren't welcome here, boy.
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>>27525714
Just get your own 2400CP Vapes :^)
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>>27525702
>4 of every 6
Should read 4/5, my bad.
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>>27525521
Oh so they did change the scan times? I was using the Python map to get a haunter and it took like 30 seconds to spawn
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>>27525702
>That means that even walking at a below-average 1m/s
How can someone even walk that slow? I'm a naturally fast walker, and my brother and one friend are larger guys and are slow walkers, and they still walk faster than that. To only go 1m/s you'd have to be a human Snorlax.
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>>27525793
I have friends who are 5' flat, and they probably walk at a speed closer to 1m/s.

Once, we were late to something so they started running. I was able to keep up with them completely just by walking a little faster than usual.

But still, you're absolutely right. I'd have to be crawling across the pavement to not miss Pokemon as a walker now.
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Is the game down for anyone else in Europe?
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Is it worth to invest in a low cp (think less than 200) pokémon with perfect IVs (think 90%+)?
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it's still worth getting into this game, r-right, guise?
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>>27525911
Catch a high cp high iv.
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>>27525035
the place I used to farm Eevees and Krabbies at is now a Growlithe nest
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>>27525911
90%+ =/= Perfect IVs
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>>27525702
Oh wow so you're saying the pings that go out that detect poke stops and wild Pokemon are 10 seconds apart? That's fucking retarded! I used to drive and pop poke stops going places and you're right the whole point of biking and playing the game was to more or less go nonstop, not screech to a halt every time
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I haven't buckled down and started playing a ton yet, but I heard someone say once that there's no point powering up pokemon until they get 2k+ CP.
But I thought that was the only way to get CP?
Is there some kind of cap you'll hit with powering up your pokemon?
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>>27526012
Well if you wanna have fun lvl them. In lvl 25 and the highest I've got is 1500
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>>27526009
Dunno if it impacts Pokestops, but it certainly impacts what Pokemon will appear for capture ingame.

Basically nothing will spawn if you're riding in a car or bus. Very little will spawn at all if you're riding a bike, and eggs won't even gain distance now. Even walking at 1m/s, 50% slower than "average" walking distance, you're likely to miss a few along the way.
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>>27525344
Yeah, I've seen them doing it.
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>>27525345
I'm from CT lol. I only knew the reference from my 1st grade teacher. Good luck m8
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Why the fuck is Niantic making these changes? Literally NOBODY asked for this.

Oh, you have a tracking problem? Lets reduce the scanning distance from 100 to 70 meters, increase the time between scans so that less Pokemon are found, and C&D all the public scanners so that players can't find new Pokemon, which is THE OBJECTIVE OF THE FUCKING GAME.
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>>27525918
No. The way it's designed it's shitty for anybody who wasn't grinding hard from day one
And even fit them a lot of it is shitty
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>>27523445
Pokes
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>>27526162
Also, you thought you caught a rare Pokemon ? Oh its actually a Pidgey!

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I HATE YOU NIANTIC
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>>27526162
You're ruining the game for yourself and you're not having real fun.

You think you know what you want, but you don't.
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>>27525517
What's drafting? I'm an /o/fag so it means something different to me.
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>>27526162
>>27526167
>>27526082
Wow, good thing I'm not as into it as the first few weeks

I broke 1,000, I'm pretty good
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does everything require a razzberry to capture, ffs.
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>>27526162
Don't forget that they made it harder for you to actually catch Pokemon after you've found them AND made it more likely for them to run away.

Seriously, what the fuck are they thinking? These are changes that *anyone* could tell would be wildly unpopular. Just fucking everyone's shit up over and over again.
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'Sup
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>>27521982
Filthy blue scum already dominates my city because the underagefags with no jobs all joined Mystic. There's pretty much no point to attacking gyms unless you have two friends to join you anyway.
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How to check IVs?
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>>27523137
what are you even trying to say
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>>27525008
I had a dream that they added gen 2 and announced it by professor willow popping up saying something like "we've just discovered new species, here are three specimens try to catch one of them" and then I woke up in confusion and disappointment.
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>>27525918
I mean, it's a free game, just don't spend real money on it like a neckbeard. No point in specifically going out of your way to play it anymore either since tracking is dead. Public parks are usually "nests" for uncommon Pokemon, but unless you're a carfag, this game is a waste of time.
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>>27524649
>dog
get some glasses
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It seems like they're trying their damndest to make this a casual user only game, but still want you to walk around with the app open and screen on the entire time. It makes no sense until you remember they have a gadget coming out that lets you play with your phone in your pocket. Maybe Ninetendo is pressuring them into ruining the game so bad that the only way to continue to play it is to buy that.
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>>27526162
>Why the fuck is Niantic making these changes? Literally NOBODY asked for this.
They are like valve. Why are some companies so retarded when it comes to customer wishes?
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lvl 24
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>>27526699

It's their game and you should feel privileged that they let you play it. The customer is not always right.
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My battle team. Yeah these arent high cp but theyre the best ive got and im legit lvl 25.
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>there are people on /vp/ that don't know the secret to power levelling.
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>>27526718
>The customer is not always right.
this is true.
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>>27523578
post movesets faggot
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>>27526718
>The customer is not always right.
The customer is always wrong unless they've had experience prior.
The problem is that you want them to be a customer and buy your stuff so you have to make them think they're right.
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>>27526317
Making it harder to catch sells more pokeball. Making it harder to find sells more lures. They'll probably add a pay option for radar or something.
Time will tell if making their game shitty will be compensated by having more people buy things. I'm hoping not, fuck them.
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>>27521463
What are some good walking spots in Australia with lots of Pokéstops?
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>>27526162
>increase the time between scans so that less Pokemon are found
I don't know about you but I've been getting a hell of a lot more spawns lately.
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>>27526701
Sow low cpw
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>>27526766
>Time will tell if making their game shitty will be compensated by having more people buy things.
There are people spending money in the thousands already, they've made a profit already and it's continuing to grow.
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>>27526784
21°49'52.1"S 126°18'01.6"E hot spot with many pokestops
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>>27526755
What kind of marketing philosophy is that? R u stoopit

>>27526766
This, they saw how popular it got and went the way of the Jew by saying let's try and force IAPs
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>>27524776
I hate that name it confuses me, I just keep of thinking of pogo sticks as well as pic related
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>>27526784
Melbourne easily. Kp in perth too
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>>27526766
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>>27526833
>What kind of marketing philosophy is that? R u stoopit
You're being sarcastic, right?
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>>27526813
cheater
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What's the purpose of the achievements? They're useless.
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>>27526886
No... Just not shit. I put everything onthe line for this
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>>27526927
a girl yesterday was very impressed when i showed her i walked 190 km so far
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>>27526927
Welcome to the world of video games circa 2005
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>>27526964
so you pay to win huh

must be fun battling with 9 2500 cp vaporeons huh
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nox stop working for anyone else?
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Still no news from developers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNkodau7JjU
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>>27527004
I didnt pay a single cent
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>>27527037
sure thing buddy. post your team with timestamp

or are you afraid of getting exposed?
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>>27527004
Dude it's easy as fuck to get high CP pokemon.
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>>27527069
A new version is available, cant right now
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>>27527150
>>27527076
exposed so hard. stay botting and paying kiddo
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>>27524502
Git gud
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>>27527172
>Exposed
What?
You do realise you're talking to two different people right?
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>>27526753
All of them got ideal moveset that i checked from PokemonGo database, maybe Starmie got Psybeam not sure.
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>>27527172
Well i just updated but say whatever you want
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>>27526879
Are YOU being sarcastic? The customer is always right. Establish relationship with them by fostering trust. This is literally 101 basic shit, I'm a business graduate
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>You need a raspberry to catch a 10cp magikarp otherwise it'll run away

What the actual fuck...
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>>27527187
>git gud
>at Spend Time Walking: The Game
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>>27527275
>Customers always right
try to keep up
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>>27527280
>raspberry
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>>27527280
You need a rasberry and 6 great balls to catch a 10cp pidgey
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>>27527314
>try to keep up with my garbage logic
>the customer is wrong make them think they're right

O I got baited boi
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lvl20 here, something is definitely wrong today. These four mons have been holding gyms for hours now.
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>>27527275
Ah I see, bad reading comprehension huh?

In any case it's a fact that unless they've have prior experience in that sector they're always wrong but you can't tell them that. You have to make them feel like they're right or they'll abandon your business.
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>>27527352
>>the customer is wrong make them think they're right
That's exactly how the term came about anon.

Like how women are always right if you don't want to get into a retarded argument and lose out on sex for ages.
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i really hope that those screenshots of extremely cringey, unfunny renamed pokemons is just that one spoofer/botter/cheater guy who plays with multiple accounts

there can't be more than one dude this unaware of himself, this autistic, this unfunny and this obnoxious on this subreddit.
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>pic-related
Is this it? Is there no way around it, I have to update now?
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>>27527397
>>27527397
>bad reading comprehension
>repeats the same thing as naseum in the same post accusing me of misinterpreting his post

Are you joking? The customer is to be catered to by selective pricing that makes them feel like they're saving while you charge exorbitant prices based on external factors of production. You're wrong on all accounts, and you sound like a jackass besides it.

>>27527427
That's bullshit, maybe in the days of rockefeller, but there are business ethics to be adhered to, let alone businessmen's personal philosophy. The customer is ALWAYS right, it's simple. You don't alienate that which sustains you.
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>>27524440
I haven't really tried. I did a 2 mile walk last night. Hit 150 pokestops. Didn't catch anything good but that's 7.5k xp just from walk home. I hit 19 as I left and now my xp is 9601/25000. doesn't seem to be too hard anon
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>>27527494
Wynaut?
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>>27527537
The game sucks pre-update and everybody seems to hate the update...
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>>27527494
Yes sadly, it pops up on nox too surprisingly, the pokemon spawn rate is far lower than before unless you hang at a pokestop with lure and I just lost a 12cp eevee with 3 great balls and raspberries
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>>27527529
>tfw almost at 20 and my pokamons suck
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>>27527522
>The customer is ALWAYS right, it's simple
It's the 21st century anon. Stop being naive about the world and realise you're just being manipulated into a sale. The customer is never right but you can't tell them that they're wrong because they'll leave for another business and you'll lose sales.

Have you ever worked a day in your life?
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>fight to level up a gym so I can put a pokemon in
>some fucker puts one in just as I level the gym
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>>27527572
The updates redesign is p bad, at least you can change your trainer
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>>27527522
>The customer is ALWAYS right, it's simple.
No.
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The game is forcing me to update, is there any way fo avoid it? I head people get their account reset and shit.
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>>27527522
Okay then mister shitposter.
A customer goes into a store and wants a box but they're unsure about the size.
They ask a store assistant about them and they answer with "there's more in the warehouse and I could look for you" to which the customer says "No I want to look myself".

The assistant can't let them into the back but the customer is persistent. Who's in the right?
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>>27527630
Have you ever worked anything but the keyboard typing edgy posts from your utilitarianism 101 class?

Customer is always right, the most corrupt business models existing today are pay to win apps, DLC, and customer club credit cards, businesses don't need to walk circles around people to manipulate them except for car dealerships, all the manipulation is done subtly and psychologically now you cuck
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>There's a sound of a clap everytime you collect items at a pokestop

Just shows this game was made by Americans
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>>27527664
>just posting "No."

Your hissyfit wasn't subtle anon
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>>27527697
Your mom and this game sucks
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>>27527697
That's not even close to what we're debating, you're talking about a customer wanting to go into the stock area

If you take "the customer is always right" so literally you're underage or not worth replying to
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>>27521463
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IS IT HERE?! AM I FINALLY FREE?!
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>>27527796
How is this "fun"? You're looking at the Matrix codes and pretending its a real pokemon. This shit is straight out of the matrix movie. You're pathetic
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>>27527716
Are you retarded?

What part of "but you can't let them know they're wrong" don't you understand? If every customer were pandered to in the way you're suggesting it works we would have mass pandemonium and the business would go down in flames.

Literally any business where someone has to purchase something is based on manipulation and false information making the customer think they're right when the reality is much different.

>>27527769
You're the only one that thinks "the customer is always right" is a literal statement jackass. Again you have to make them think they're right instead of telling them otherwise that's business and psychology 101.
To simplify it for your standards. Make them feel nice and they'll come back to feel nice again.
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>>27527747
But especially YOUR mom, who I slept with yesterday ;) She liked it :)
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>>27527793
Go away leddit shit
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>>27526927
You should at least get some experience out of them
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>>27527796
You're free to do anything now, my son.
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Holy fucking shit I just wasted 15 greatballs on a fucking dratini, this game is so fucked
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>>27527796
dont know what any of this even means

but how do you not get caught having a constantly changing geolocation with a static ip
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>>27527275
>the customer is always right
>literally 101 basic shit

Have you taken a single business or marketing course in the past decade?

Like, I know you're probably just shitposting, but hell.
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>>27527846
Nah.
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Tbh they should add battling into the game as an option to increase the catch chance and make razberrys limit the chance a pokemon flees.

It could even been the shitty gym battle applied to wild pokemon encourters.

Battling wouldn't be required, but optional to help with high CP pokemon.
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>>27527863
Do you actually still play this game? It's old, get lost, you freak!
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ya'll mad because a v 0.3 game is not balanced lol
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>>27527899
We're talking to someone who's been NEET for their whole life. What do you think?
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>>27527836
>You're the only one that thinks "the customer is always right" is a literal statement jackass. Again you have to make them think they're right instead of telling them otherwise that's business and psychology 101

First of all, are you stupid? Your example was the literal interpretation of "a customer wants to go into a physical area in the store they shouldn't". Second of all, the point is you don't need to make them think what they already are
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>>27527796
Use VPN dumbasso.
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>>27527868
First of all Niantic just doesn't give a fuck, they're too busy calculating christmas bonuses and transferring shekels to offshore accounts. Secondly they can't tell by IP alone those aren't 8 players with tablets sharing a phone's IP address trough a hotspot.
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>>27527941

I worked at walmart before, the customer is not always right. I shut down so many people trying to return their broken electronics, or shit they didn't even get from walmart. Throw a fit all you want Mexican guy, I'm not refunding that broken ancient iPhone.
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>>27527932
>i-it's only beta guys

+10 Pokécoins have been added to your account!
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>>27527836
>>27527836
>Adhering to business policies that break BBB regulations prevents mass pandemonium

Wew lad

>literally any business where someone has to purchase something is based on manipulation and false information making the customer think they're right when the reality is much different

Okay you fucking communist, so when I go to buy a car that is described as having specific safety features I should inherently expect a different product? No wonder you're the core GO demographic, you're a fucking moron

Nice misuse of literally by the way, your edgy wannabe intellectual redditor is showing
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>>27527941
Here anon, try reading something that actually makes sense.

https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/222501
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>All these shit spawns

Just kill me already f a m
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>>27527796
what the fuck?
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>>27528030

I feel ya
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>>27527796
>>27528038
THE NUMBERS MASON
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>>27527796
Disregard it's just my internet taking a shit.

GOD DAMN IT THAT FEEL WHEN NOT BANNED

>>27527975
>using a vpn for niantic

>>27528038
CANT WAKE UP
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>>27527899
I see you're diverting, nice damage control. You're full of shit and no amount of deflecting can change that. The customer is a valued asset no matter how you suppose they're to be treated. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar, you sell more products and services with advertising honestly the merits of your quality product. People are pretty dumb but if there's one area they're smarter in its advertisement considering the prevalence they're exposed to it. You're a sociopath

>>27527938
>le samefagging pretending to be an anonymous social supporter for credibility

All the keks
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>>27527482
>this subreddit
Yikes.
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>>27523445
I have a problem. All the good pokes are over on the other side of the city. Over here it's dead.

Except when it isn't. I spent a good half hour hunting for a dragonair that pooped up on the radar, but the fucking thing didn't show.
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>>27528050
It's night already? Are you in Europe or somewhere?
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>>27527992
This and the other example have nothing to do with what we're arguing - what do the stipulations of a return policy have to do with the customer being right without interpreting it literally as them being right about everything, like 4+4=7?

Also
>working at wal mart
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>>27527494
Just got this too. Really annoying..
I was hoping I could avoid this shitty update.
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>>27527010
I'm stuck at please update screen and apparantely nox isn't compatible with the latest version
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Anyones bot taking a shit right now? 3 of us are seeing soft bans everywhere.

They doing a ban wave or is it the servers?
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>>27528021
>Let me use the first article that supports my opinion!
>mark cuban
>the article amounts to "innovate instead of sitting around on your ass as an entrepreneur/business"

Wew lad
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>>27528030
I have seen 3 or 4 psyducks since I started playing. Don't complain to me about too many Psyducks
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>>27527976
There are 8 players using mcdonalds free WiFi to play.

Check mate
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>>27527975
I tried figuring out proxies before and couldn't. Anybody got a quick tutorial on how to get free proxy to hide IP?
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>>27528149
They're probably updating some shit on their servers again.
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>>27528076
>The customer is a valued asset no matter how you suppose they're to be treated. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar, you sell more products and services with advertising honestly the merits of your quality product

A. I'm not the guy who's talking like a psychopath, but thanks for assuming.

B. This is all correct. That does not mean, though, that the customer is always right, because they most certainly aren't. Is feedback important? Absolutely. Is making your customer satisfied in your product important? Of fucking course. But you cannot make your product decisions based simply on what your customers say they want, because oftentimes what they say they want isn't actually the best way to fill those needs. You, as the company/organization need to design your product or service in a way that you can not only give people what they think they want, but what they had no idea they wanted until you gave it to them.

It's core to product development, core to marketing a successful product, and core to remaining competitive in a world filled with variations and ever-evolving products. Just meeting customer requests puts you into a hole of never innovating or remaining ahead of the competitive curve.

Again, have you taken a single fucking business or marketing course in the past decade?
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>>27528076
>The customer is a valued asset no matter how you suppose they're to be treated. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar, you sell more products and services with advertising honestly the merits of your quality product. People are pretty dumb but if there's one area they're smarter in its advertisement considering the prevalence they're exposed to it. You're a sociopath
None of them but that's what those two have been saying.

The workers are wearing a mask, they hate you and they know you're a retard. You're nothing but a bag of money to them.

The customers absolutely can't know this otherwise they'll stop buying from you.

That's why the workers have to comply with the customers and make them think they're right. In other words using "honey to catch the flies".

This isn't a hard concept to understand.
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>>27528005

my kids play. I'm play street fighter, so i suppose I dont have a use for pokecoins personally. but either way you slice it, V 1.0 has yet to be released and the bitching is incredible.
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>>27528149
Probably due to the forced update
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>>27528193
>implying meeting customer wants and providing your own innovations isn't a business model companies use often while still respecting the customer

You know your post is bad when one Implying shuts it down
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what do you think is the average ageof the buttmad poster in a PoGo General thread on 4chan?
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>>27528076
Question, are you American?
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>>27528155
I just got kicked out mcdonalds yesterday for using their wifi and not ordering anything
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>>27528255
>>implying meeting customer wants and providing your own innovations isn't a business model companies use often while still respecting the customer
It's not. No company has thrived on listening to the customers.

Often they crash and burn.
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>>27528269
>not ordering a mcdouble and leaving it on the table in front of you

Sheesh
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>>27528113

In what way are they always right, when you have been given real world examples of how they are not?
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>>27528295
The line was insanely long
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>>27528200
>
The workers are wearing a mask, they hate you and they know you're a retard. You're nothing but a bag of money to them.The customers absolutely can't know this otherwise they'll stop buying from you.

That's wrong, the customers do know that, that's why people shoplift, and use technicalities and loopholes in purchasing policies and individual store codes to try and cheat the system,

EXCEPT, at best, what you're describing is retail where the idiots who think it's a good idea to work a job where the higher ups think the same as them as they do the customers grow more jaded and cynical. You're really generalizing here
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>>27528295
>not just ordering a milkshake
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>>27528255
Meeting customer wants is not the same as blanketly saying the customer is always right and doing what they tell you you should be doing. You're missing the fundamental concept here.
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>>27528144
Fuck I just closed mine. That's what I get for wanting to check sniping.
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>Finally found a eevee
>Tap on it
>Error

There's shills would try to defend this bullshit
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Google and PTC login systems down, servers are fine though. Is this the start of the purge?
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>github map stopped working
fuckk. what's my motivation to go outside when it's 100 degrees?
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Any news on trading system, or new update?
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>>27528375
I can log in just fine with my phone except for PTC, but I can't connect with bots
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>>27528290
That's not true, think about it, as an example, TPCI since we're on /vp/ is a great example

They're simultaneously pandering to old fans and online memes meeting the desires of long forgotten and lost fans, with Go, with merch designed around 151 originals, with giveaways and downloads, while still hyping up their new release with new features to grab in new buyers, appeal to longtime fans (at the risk of alienating some with new features admittedly) and of course with that comes a whole new wave of plushes, shirts toys etc

Plenty of companies thrive on similar models, applied to their respective products
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>>27528328
>You're really generalizing here
That's because it's a fact anon. If you have ever worked a day in your life you would know this.

The store assistants don't care.

>That's wrong, the customers do know that, that's why people shoplift, and use technicalities and loopholes in purchasing policies and individual store codes to try and cheat the system
The former is usually because of money or rather the lack of it. The latter is someone that has worked in that sector before and knows the intricacies of the system and how to manipulate it which goes back to the original anon's point that the customer is always wrong unless they've had prior experience.

What part is confusing you?
The part where people aren't nice to complete strangers of their own free will?
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My map seems to have updated
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>>27528298
All the "examples" do not apply to the concept
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>>27528409
Try to check your journal. If it doesn't load, you're not really connected.
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>>27528375
More like the start of a shitty forced update.
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A bot now is the gym leader of practically all the gyms that I can see from my house. Great job Niantic, your changes actually helped the fairly player.
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>>27528144
Is it really over?

Could some botfag confirm?
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>>27528429
Yes, because you sound like scumbags, and I say that with a business major in progress

But besides that you're moving the goalpost - "the customer is always right" becomes "the customer is always right so long as they've had adequate experience so as not to be taken advantage of"
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>>27528434
Google loads fine just checked journal, PTC doesn't load for some reason
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>>27528414
>They're simultaneously pandering to old fans and online memes meeting the desires of long forgotten and lost fans, with Go, with merch designed around 151 originals, with giveaways and downloads, while still hyping up their new release with new features to grab in new buyers, appeal to longtime fans (at the risk of alienating some with new features admittedly) and of course with that comes a whole new wave of plushes, shirts toys etc
The problem there is that the current fans like it while the genwunner crowd doesn't.

Also that's still just another example of manipulation rather than listening to fans if they did go for it.
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>>27528433

In what way?

>customer demands something
>tell them no
>b-but I'm always right.
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>>27528336
You're not doing what they tell you you should be doing, you're providing them with something they want (And often need)
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>>27528473
Weird. You're one of the chosen few then. Go do some damage while everyone else is offline.
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Anyone else using Necro getting this error?
Is there a fix?
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>>27528472
>and I say that with a business major in progress
>in progress
Come back when you have field experience and then tell us if being nice gets you anywhere. You haven't even finished your studies like you previously said.

>But besides that you're moving the goalpost - "the customer is always right" becomes "the customer is always right so long as they've had adequate experience so as not to be taken advantage of"
The point to start with was that the customer is wrong unless they know the inner workings of that sector.
You can't even get the topic of this conversation right.

One question, what do you think happens in the backroom of the store?
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>>27523137
Get a fucking car you bitch .
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>>27528517
Yeah.

Don't bot. :^)
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>>27528517
>Is there a fix?
yeah stop being a fag and go for a walk
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>>27528517
Just speculation but try logging into your bot account on nox/blue stacks and downloading the update. It's probably just fucked because it won't let anyone play without updating
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>>27528476
How would that be another example?

And clearly the normies outside the hardcore fandom do care, from videos about Pokemon especially the old games and movies on YouTube getting hefty views just by virtue of name, to the sales of VC RBY and Go, it shows there's still a healthy segment to pursue there, of course they want them on the side of playing sun and moon, but even in new games, the Kano starters got Megas, forms of pikachu for contests, Easter eggs littered through the dialogue - they know what they're doing, and they're doing it well on both ends. And that's just one example
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What do I do with this?
Inb4 use a zyklon gastly
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>>27528479
Because that's not what it means, you're saying that if they came into the store with a pitchfork and wanted to jab your anus they should do it, that's absurd

The customer is to be respected, listened to, sold things they want, and offered things they may want in the form of new products, it's not hard, the customer comes first, the customer is number one
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>>27528542
I used nox/blue stacks. Just the bot. Does Necro use an Apk?
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>>27528517
I just got that same shit. It was fine in the morning.

This means that a)bots are dead because I just logged in with that same account on my phone just fine or... b)servers/logins are being updated to force people to update

Hopefully some more knowledgeable anon could confirm.
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>>27528583
So basically the customer isn't right but they have to think they're right.

You can't deny or argue with them if they're persistent because that's a customer lost for your business.
You have to make them think they're right.

Go and work a commission based job where you have to convince them that they want it and that they had the idea.
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>>27528528
That was another anon, I'm taking marketing, which is if anything, dealing more specifically with these ideas than anything else, I've worked retail for almost all of my jobs bar for telemarketing once, I know how these industries work.

They shouldn't need to know anything to be respected and valued.
Why the stockroom question?
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>>27528598
> Does Necro use an Apk?

Actually now that you mentioned it, I checked and it doesn't.
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>>27528583

Telling them no on a return is not akin to your anus jabbing example.
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>>27528602
Oh well. Hopefully they get it fixed. It was right when I popped my lucky egg too. At leaster it evolved like 90 mons, and then deleted them so I didn't have to.
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Servers
Imprisoning me
All that I see
Unable to authenticate
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>>27528671
I was evolving shit manually because I didn't trust the bot, but once I was done and ready to use it, it gave me that red screen.
Hopefully yeah, it'll sort itself out, because that scare about not being able to log in happened a week ago as well.
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>>27528671
Ask for refund. It's actually surprisingly easy. Just say that you popped a lucky egg then the server crashed for 30 mins.
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>>27528636
No way, they're not thinking anything, they are right.

I actually worked a few odd months in a small gift shop in my local megamall - I can tell you from being a floor salesman that your idea about how you treat buyers might work in an ethically questionable sense in theory, but that in practice, it fails. People know what they do and don't want, even when wandering into s store selling knick knacks just to browse, and you have to respect that. It was a commission based job, and almost all of my better sales were ones where I WASNT insistent or pushy or trying to plant suggestions in people's heads, they were when I just talked to them like people.

It was a small store and we had eight or so people roaming rhe floor, so there was always a rotating cast of fellow salesmen, the boss sounded similar to your mentality: "show them what they want" was essentially his motto, but he peddled cheap thrifty novelties and he more often than not frustrated and drove people away, now if that's how people act over cheap doodads, imagine how they feel when they're subjected to those tactics and trying to buy a car. Not everyone is the perfect sheeple simpleton you can sell on a 40k truck for 60k
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Was able to log back into Necrobot, but there's no PokeStops actually up at all.
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>>27528649
You're saying they should get it even if the policy is expired, that's basically saying they should do whatever they want. That's not what "the customer is always right means"
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>>27528490
Here's the difference, and I'll use a blatantly cheesy/obvious reference for this one just to make it clear.

The original iPhone, no matter how you feel about Apple and their products, was probably one of the most influential phone products out there. It did what most phones couldn't do and didn't care to do; one of the key selling points was being able to view full-page websites from your phone, along with the modernized touchscreen and a number of additional features.

But do you know what it would've been if they had listened to customers, if they had gone with what customers were actively asking for? Well, it would've been exactly what Motorola and Blackberry were doing at the time- customers asked for better texting, better keyboards, thinner, smaller phones. They wanted the Razr and fliphones that could slide into your pocket, they wanted full-scale physical keyboards because they claimed tactile feedback was essential to typing. They cared more about calling, texting, and email than web browsing, music playing, or touchscreen features. But what Apple did with the iPhone gave customers what they didn't know they wanted; mobile browsing has become such a cornerstone of web design now, and the touchscreen is basically standard in the industry whereas before the iPhone it was always stylus-based or required pressure and had very little mainstream appeal.

Sure, say what you will about Apple and their company's direction since, but something like the iPhone doesn't happen because they give consumers what they're asking for. They gave consumers what they didn't know they wanted until it was sitting in front of them.
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>>27528740
They probably changed the API. wait for them to update the bots
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>>27528713
My bot has withered
Oh, I cannot cheat no more
How can I level
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>Go for a Pokemon Go walk.
>Encounter nothing for a while.
>Get to large groups of Pokestops.
>Tons of Pokemon appear.
>tfw only busy places and lure camp spots seem to be rewarding.
The imbalance of Pokemon appearing in crowded areas seem to have increased since the patch.
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>>27528756
Sure but that's just innovation, as a base concept. People also wanted more of the late 90's PDA's too, arguably where a lot of the selling strength came from, as that was the closest thing to a pocket computer beforehand. And then consider that since that success, how many features thatre been added to hardware and software of smartphones in general have come from PR research? Havent you heard the focus group stereotype?
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>>27528740
Same for me. Oh well. Now we wait. Does anyone have the links?
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>>27528736
>I can tell you from being a floor salesman that your idea about how you treat buyers might work in an ethically questionable sense in theory, but that in practice, it fails.
Except for the various businesses that are thriving because of it.
Just look at Sony for example, they're milking their customers without respect and they're succeeding because the customers think it's a good thing. Of course only their Playstation sector is thriving but that's more because the product can't be disguised.

Anyway, you have no concept of "faking" do you?
> almost all of my better sales were ones where I WASNT insistent or pushy or trying to plant suggestions in people's heads
No one is saying you have to be. You just have to nod your head and agree with the customer making them feel like they're respected and valued when that only applies to the money in their pockets.

What aren't you understanding here?
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Holy shit

I finally managed to log in using PTC, and while everything appeared to be normal at first, gyms are flickering, and my trainer and portrait are occasionally distorting and stretching like someone tilted an N64 cart.
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Whats goin on? Is Great Purge for botters really started? Tried all of my bots and gettin error or no pokestops or pokemons, was about to hit level 38 fug me.
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>>27528869
Caps nigga, this shit sounds interesting.
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>>27528827
Because that's disengenuious and wrong, Besides, the more emotionally in tune can pick up on that and you'll lose yet another sale because of it.

I keked at the PlayStation thing though
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>>27528796
>that paintjob
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>>27528869
What's PTC? What desktop scanner map still works for non spoofers

pls no bully ;-;
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THE PURGE HAS BEGUN
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>>27528869
I can already see it:

Update 0.4 patch log:
>major graphical improvements
>moved 'evolve' to a separate menu
>capture rate balance adjustments
>font changes
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>>27528808
>And then consider that since that success, how many features thatre been added to hardware and software of smartphones in general have come from PR research?

Tell me, has the iPhone dropped in success or competitive edge since they started to go more towards this model? Now that other companies are outperforming Apple in certain categories of the smartphone market, have they done anything to regain their market share besides continuous iterative improvements and playing catch-up with other manufacturers?

There's a reason Apple gets flack for not being "innovators" any more like they were with the iPod and iPhone. Are focus groups useful? Of course. But when you let the majority run your business model you're just setting yourself up to cruise instead of improve. To be fair, after Apple's boom all they need to do is cruise. That doesn't make it a sustainable business model in this day and age, though.
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>>27528903
It's some one frame shit, but I'll try.

At one point the trainer was 2x height, but the lower half was normal I think, while the torso and arms were stretched
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>>27528951
Pokémon Trainer Club. It's what you use to login.
Don't spoof just play the game

>>27528955
source?
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>>27528924
>Because that's disengenuious and wrong
Doesn't matter. The idiot masses still think they're the center of the world.

> Besides, the more emotionally in tune can pick up on that and you'll lose yet another sale because of it.
Often they're a rarity and even then they would only see it on the faces of the people who have just lost hope in customers and haven't perfected the art.
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>I don't like Pokemon Go because it's for normies

I didn't realize how autistic you people are.
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>>27528966
Yeah last quarters iPhone sales were disappointing to say the least but better than estimates

Can I hear an iWatch?
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>>27528966
You're not wrong, but that's a simplistic view of that example - you need to identify a timeframe for when android competitors, and now, for the older crowd, and poorer folk, the pay as you go disposable burner phone providers like cricket and such, which often offer their own off brand smartphones or watered down android OS. The decline didn't come because they stopped innovating or started appealing to focus research, it came because people had more choice, plain and simple.
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>>27528986
>no one has ever said this
people don't like the game because it's broken, not because normies play it.
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>>27528980
Fuck I've been logging in the with gmail I made for my iPhone account. I didn't know what that was or (bothered figuring out) how to sign up for one. What is it?
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>>27528994
>Can I hear an iWatch?
That's already happened and not many people cared for it.
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>>27528951
>>27528980
misread your post. The pokemon go live map still works, albeit slowly. I can't recommend any others in good confidence
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>>27528980
>source?

His ass. If they're sperging this much about bots failing to work just because they can't update, I don't want to be here when some bans actually start to roll out.
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>>27528985
Perfected the art of....manipulation? Because that's where you're going with this. Commerce and business isn't a crime, or a fight to the death with a clear winner and loser, it's a trade of goods for currency. You're going off of your first premise that people think they're entitled, and they are, to respect and purchases that don't leave them in a disadvantage.

I don't know what to say because I'm trying not to divert to baseless personal attacks, but there's a real Napoleon complex going on here in what you seem to describe as the one true business philosophy. You sound like Hobbes trying to open a chain of megamarts
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>>27529060
I want to be here, only to laugh at the people who said it would never happen
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>>27529036
That's funny because it demonstrates the argument were having about customer needs - the iWatch failed because it was marketed and sold as a luxury item, even its cheapest offering was like 500$ I think, an outrageous price to say the least. The android Fitbit has arguably outclassed the gap the apple watch wanted to fill by making a cheaper variant with a connectivity to fitness technology
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>>27529076
>Perfected the art of....manipulation?
That and acting.

>You're going off of your first premise that people think they're entitled, and they are, to respect and purchases that don't leave them in a disadvantage.
Of course they're entitled to it. But that doesn't mean what they get is real often times workers are the type to talk behind backs and complain about these people who think they've been completely nice and upstanding.

>but there's a real Napoleon complex going on here in what you seem to describe as the one true business philosophy.
It may as well be because it's the only one that has actually worked.
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>>27529078
Oh, it'll happen, just like it did with Ingress. Those who spoofed dumbly will get permabanned and they will come to reddit to cry and the filthy crossposters will bring screencaps of it here and spergs will blow it out of proportion and the thread will go to shit and we will cry and laugh watching it burn. And the bots will keep on running.
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>>27529015
It's a bit of column A and column B, though; Apple's faltering has come because their competitors are outperforming them in certain categories (whether it be affordability, accessibility, or actual technical specs like camera or battery life or waterproofing) and they haven't done much besides try to respond to these competitors with similar offerings. The 5c was a direct attempt to reach cheaper foreign markets and less-affluent customers, and it failed because it simply offered what other companies already were without differentiating itself beyond the Apple brand. The 6 Plus was just a response to the success of larger-sized smartphones from other companies, hell, the 4/5/6 have all just been iterations of the same base product with small tweaks based on focus group feedback and competitor features. The same goes for the iPad line compared to the Surface and other tablet products.

The decline DID come because they stopped innovating; the fact that Android has eroded Apple's share is specifically because Apple has remained stagnant long enough for their competitors to both catch up to and outperform their original innovative product. Being an innovator means staying two steps ahead of the competition whenever possible, not doing it once and coasting as long as you can on that success.
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Recorded with another phone, got this, but I'm still trying to stop it on the right frame for the clearer version
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>>27529152
Well sure because the workers are also, surprise, part of the population too, everybody feels entitled to something or another, and there's hardly a model of society and business within it that appeals broadly to the most amount of people without alienating another small segment let alone more segments. Welcome to human life, it's a problem and we can only try to fix it.

Also, that stuff about acting...about that "the ends justify the means" (only one that has worked) - are you...are you an IRL supervillain?
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>>27529238
>are you...are you an IRL supervillain?
I wish, I'd have more fun doing that than working.
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>>27529230
Maybe it would be easier if you made a video and put it on youtube.
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>>27529230
This one's a bit clearer
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>niantic has now also broken reddit's desktop scanner
FUCK

will niantic stop at nothing to prevent us from having fun without spending loadsa money?
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>>27529230
>>27529296

At what level exactly did you get a stand?
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>>27529300
Well they can't stop you from having fun.
Unless you're an autist.
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>>27529311
Well I did hit 20 recently
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>>27529185
There's a lot more to this issue though, it's actually one of my favorite topics in economics and business today - smartphones are magnificent inventions that've helped contribute to such a drastically changing landscape of interaction, they're bound to be mired in controversy.

First of all, you're definitely right about Apple and support. Apple charges a nominal fee just to gain access to their basic customer care service, and that's a model you can guarantee will alienate buyers.

But the affordability thing isn't Apple exclusive, the whole reason people can "afford" these 500$ dollar phones is contractual agreements with providers, these phones are outright exorbitant in cost, one way or the other. People see no issue with it and they plop down a down payment or alternatively 0$ to ensure the provider that they'll stick around long enough to prevent the customer from acting like my aunt, who every week is reading a newsletter from sprint or AT&T considering switching, who never checked to see that the wifi was off on her iPhone because she's old and technology ignorant, and the wifisettings are too complicated, saying she "doesn't do the that"

The point is there's an easy to reach balance of innovation and appealing to demand, but that gets shit on by outside factors
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>>27529300
is this why my python scanner stopped working a bit ago? have they said anything publicly about this? I'm using PokemonGo-Map-2.1.0 and it's just giving me nothing now
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So just got the news API is changing so bots are RIP, also people who did multi-account botting their accounts are RIP. Minor possiblty they will ban accounts above 35 level.
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>>27529264
So do it, nothing's stopping you from getting a degree in politics
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>>27529398
Politics isn't fun though.
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>>27529412
You know what, I like you man
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>>27529397
Bots are RIP until someone makes a new bot in a couple of hours.
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>>27529397
Just a heads up guys, my dad is John "Hanke" Gamefreak and he said all accounts will be wiped because their team doesn't know how to fix cheating.

Get your refunds while you can, guys.
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>>27526753
In that case i'm insanely jelly
moves > IV's untill they add TM's
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Developers of pokemon tracking apps are having their Google accounts terminated. Not their pokemon logins, but their actual google accounts.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/4vzvn2/im_smart_poke_dev_my_google_account_has_been/
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>>27529436
This time its not that easy, if they are not stupid they will try code better and hard to crack we will see.
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>>27529371
Oh yeah, of course. The 5c was always really interesting to me considering how Apple has always tried to portray themselves as a premium product; of course there's a niche for that, but something like the 5c that both failed at reaching its intended audience and that strayed from Apple's larger goals in creating/maintaining a specific brand image is fascinating.

The pricing for their products is more about maintaining that brand prestige than actual affordability, but when you have no-name Chinese manufacturers swallowing up Asian markets based on the affordability of cheap products it's understandable that Apple wanted to get their foot in somewhere.

Really, I'm just interested to see the next shift in smartphone technology that isn't just about making the same stuff, but better. As long as that keeps being the case, a manufacturer's success just relies on who released the best model/struck up the best carrier deals for that particular cycle. The fact that Apple got to release the iPhone as a pricy AT&T exclusive and still saw unprecedented success is a testament to just how much of a game-changer it was.
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>>27529606
So here's the important question tying it back into before: do you think that next change benefits from new outright innovationn or from FG statistics
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>>27529384
All scanners are broken right now, yes. Apparently Niantic has changed the API, although there's not been any official word about this.
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>>27529683
The former, absolutely, but of course there's inherent risk to it. Focus groups will ensure you'll stay at par with the competition and keep you afloat, especially for a brand like Apple, but that's just biding time until somebody else makes the next game-changer before you can.
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>>27529749
As much as I've seen the only innovations widely speculated to be included are self projecting screens, textured touch screens, and included chargers
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>>27529883
Yes
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Is there any way to spoof GPS location with the new update? I want to make a second account to try and help combat the shortage of Instinct players
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>>27529875
And the hope is the next innovation will be something we don't expect, just like before the iPhone none of us wanted a touchscreen phone and very few thought browsing a website on their phone was worthwhile.
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get rekt botters lmaaaao
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>>27529883
Yeah, got a Farfetch'd in Europe.
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>>27530023
botters aren't banned, the bot scripts just aren't working right now
botters can still spoof to your gym and fill it with 3k dragonites
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So some of my pokemon have a light gray background when I look at them in my list of pokemon. Does this mean something or is it just there to look different?
(examples on this screenshot are spearow, zubat, and a meowth on the bottom right)
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>tfw all of your local gyms are full of valor spoofers with CP 2500+ snorlax/lapras/dragonite
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>>27530321
they're shinies, delete them
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>>27530334
Try 3000.
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>>27530334
>tfw all of your local gyms are full of mystic spoofers with CP 2500+ snorlax/lapras/dragonite
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>>27530373
why would I delete shinies in the first place? Not to mention I would assume they would look different if they were.
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>>27530023

>be me
>be lazy
>try to get joystick hack working since POGO release
> unaware how op the bot is because i dont go on forums
>finally find out about bot
>use it for two hours
>get rekt

sudoku time
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>>27530334
>Lapras

Arcanines here.
Always Snorlax/Arcanine/Dragonite.
Always.
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