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Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>New trailer for upcoming events, now in HD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeyVL5FCCM8

>Movie 19: Volcanion and the Ingenious Magearna [Jul 16th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/
NEW Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWtBDuxrcS0
EXCERPT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMWw5xiwW8

>LET'S GO SEE GEKKOUGA IN THE THEATER! SPECIAL GEKKOUGA VIDEO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj-34tfTiqo

Next episode:
>XY&Z34: Semifinal Full Battle! Ash VS Shota!! [Jul 21st]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_xyz/trailer/

Upcoming episodes:
>XY&Z35: Fierce Rival Battle! Ash Greninja VS Mega Sceptile [Jul 28th]
>XY&Z36: Fierce Fighting at the Kalos League! Gather, All of My Passion!! [Aug 4th]
>XY&Z37: The Finals! Ash VS Alan!! [Aug 11th]
>XY&Z38: Kalos League Victory! Ash's Ultimate Match!! [Aug 18th]
>XY&Z39: Team Flare Attacks! The Zygarde at the Prism Tower!! [Aug 25th]

Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.

>Will Serena win da Ash?
It sure looks that way.

>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>27212833
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DP68 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_-_Diamond&Pearl_-_537_DP068_Tobari_Gym!_Lucario_VS_Buoysel!![H264_AC3_DVDSUB][45B4C903].mkv.torrent

XY&Z31 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_031_Heatbursts_at_the_Ingenuity_Festival![H264_720P][843A8C3A].mkv.torrent

XY&Z32 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=825595

XY&Z33 RAW:
http://pocketmonstersraws.fansub-torrents.com/[PM-RAW]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_033_Mega_Jukain_VS_Raichu!_I_Received_Some_EXP!![H264_720P][B1DF8E83].mkv.torrent

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z34: SEMIFINAL FULL BATTLE! SATOSHI VS SHOTA!! (JULY 21ST)
>At last, Satoshi and Shota get to fight each other in the Kalos League. Satoshi who lost to Shota in an earlier battle, is fully fired up. And then, the rival showdown finally starts!

>Summary:
>The Kalos League has at last reached its conclusion. From the semifinals and on, all matches will finally be 6-on-6 full battles. The person standing in Satoshi's way is Shota. Having lost to Shota in a prior battle, Satoshi is fully fired up. Shota also feels great joy at getting to fight Satoshi, the person he admires, at this ultimate battle stage. And then the battle between the two finally starts!

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Mayuki Makiguchi: Serena
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mariya Ise: Eureka
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Kensho Ono: Alan
>Koichi Yamadera: Louis
>Anri Katsu: Tierno
>Minami Fujii: Trova
>Yurie Kobori: Sana
>Fumiko Orikasa: Carne
>Hiroshi Tsuchida: Platane
>Akeno Watanabe: Pachira
>Yuji Ueda: Gekkouga
>Kiyotaka Furushima: Fiarrow
>Kenta Miyake: Onvern
>Hitomi Nabatame: Harimaron
>Kensuke Sato: Lizardon
>Tsuguo Mogami: Dosidon
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration
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UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 42 (Jul 24th)

XY&Z35: Fierce Rival Battle! Ash Greninja VS Mega Sceptile (Jul 28th)
>The semifinal match between Ash and Shota continues seesawing back and forth. It's precisely because the two have fought each other so many times before that it has turned into a battle on such an advanced level between two who know each other like the back of their own hand. Through this battle, the two remember their days of friendly rivalry. Their last battle against each other has finally arrived, and they both give each other their absolute all!

XY&Z36: Fierce Fighting at the Kalos League! Gather, All of My Passion!! (Aug 4th)
>Lumiose City is in a state of excitement thanks to the Kalos League! And during this excitement, Clemont's Chespin gets lost. And as Chespin is walking around all alone and confused, a certain somebody appears before it...

XY&Z37: The Finals! Ash VS Alan!! (Aug 11th)

XY&Z38: Kalos League Victory! Ash's Ultimate Match!! (Aug 18th)

XY&Z39: Team Flare Attacks! The Zygarde at the Prism Tower!! (Aug 25th)

DREADREA (BY SERENA, CV MAYUKI MAKIGUCHI):
http://www.megafileupload.com/74rn/DreaDrea_(Serena,_CV_Mayuki_Makiguchi).aac

KIRAKIRA (BY CITRON, CV YUKI KAJI):
http://www31.zippyshare.com/v/IWEafb12/file.html

POST NI KOE WO NAGEIRETE (BY YUKI):
http://www8.zippyshare.com/v/9QpGYg8r/file.html

XY&Z -MOVIE VER.- (BY SATOSHI, CV RICA MATSUMOTO)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6d63pkrvpvcqry3/XY%26Z_MOVIE_VER_%28Both_Sizes%29.zip

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA CHAPTER 1:
http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA CHAPTER 2:
http://imgur.com/a/cGC71

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA CHAPTER 3:
http://imgur.com/a/l6bs1
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>>27218570
Upgrades.
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THE BETA SHOULD FEAR THE ALPHA
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>>Will Serena win da Ash?
>It sure looks that way.
You guys aren't that delusional right
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>>27218608
Why would anyone building a robot Pokemon that gets her upgrades through her ass?
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New trailer of upcoming events?
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>>27218666
*build
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>>27218666
His name is Eliphas, Satan.
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>>27218675
I'm currently unable to load the PV on the tvtokyo site, says "the video hasn't been found in this server". Is it the same for other people? Could it be they're currently replacing it?
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>In the Japanese version of the scene where Team Rocket is seen stealing various sorts of Poké Balls, James lists Quick, Premier, and Net Balls, even though no Quick Balls are seen in the entire episode. The dub corrected this by having James mention a Dusk Ball instead of a Quick Ball.
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>>27218653
I wouldn't be surprised if Clemont did something heroic in the TF arc and Serena fell for him. Then stayed with him to help him restore Lumiose.
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>>27218749
woah thanks dub
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Is Ash gonna win the Kalos league?
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>>27218749
The dub also corrected Clemont saying Shota's Treecko had used a move it can't learn during their gym battle by replacing it with one it can learn. Although that may have been intentional since Shota's Slurpuff went on to use an illegal move on-screen.
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>no forme changes or megas from Magearna or Volcanion
>nobody dies in the movie
Okay. What was Jarvis plans anyway?
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>>27216301
it's okay

eventually the well will run dry and fifteen more years down the line the "ash learns rasengan" episode will happen. he will use it once to blow up a rocket robot and never again
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>>27218877
Were people expecting Mega Volcanion?

He got cucked in his own movie, no ones gonna give two hot shits about Volcanion by November
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>>27218877
Megearna had more waifu potential via transformations, it is sad
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>>27218903
At least sacrificing itself for Magearna.
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>>27218793
Probably not, and he won't win Serena either. Pic related.
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>>27218877
A Pokemon doesn't need to die for a movie to be good, what's with this emofag mentality some people have?
>Not just appreciating it for what it is
>a 1 and a half hour special showcasing a legendary/never before seen Pokemon
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>>27218615
who is the black haired qt
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>>27218948
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>>27218565
that op pic. isn't this thing a japanese meme?

they call it kabedon i think?

i didnt know meme magic works in japan too
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>>27219115

XYZ27 Shota: The one I admire will definitely win, so I'll wait.

XYZ28 Serena: Because to me, Satoshi is someone I admire.

Clemont: I feel the same (aka my platonic admiration is the same as yours).


XYZ29 Serena: Welcome back, you who I admire.


All the same shit. All just friend territory. If the writers wanted to distinguish it they would have had Serena say "love" or "like". But nope.
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THIS HAND OF MINE GLOWS WITH AN AWESOME POWER
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>>27219156
Yes, it's that. James is doing it to rotate a fake wall behind them but Jessie misinterprets it and tells him he was misleading.
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>>27219182
What does she have to offer now that her goal is over and subplot with Ash was axed?
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>>27219197
Misleading how? It's not like she's in love with James, seeing as how quickly she was willing to run and marry some doctor guy (or even Steven).
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>>27219201
Become a sky trainer, obviously.
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>>27219064
Luna!
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>>27219238
Her crush on Ash was the only thing that made her interesting now that it's gone, she feels like she's just there.
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>>27218877
He wanted Racel.
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>>27219291
>"There was a delicious-looking fly on the wall next to you, sorry."
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my there's some tasty memes in this thread
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>>27219448
OK Serena
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>>27219448
Do not sexualize the Satoshi.
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>>27219504
>implying that wasn't Greninja awkwardly trying to weasel his way out of the situation
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>>27219504
There's been no spaghetti so saying "Please Serena" doesn't work anymore.
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>>27218749
The Poké Ball factory episode bothers me. Why bother showing all the different Poké Balls when none of the characters are ever going to use them because everybody only uses the standard model? Feels like a giant cocktease.
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>>27219168
>mfw there's a person somewhere who feels the need to post the same stuff he's posted many times in every single thread before, and that he probably doesn't even believe, just to bait few people in an anime thread on the internet.
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>>27219559
Oh, I believe it because Serena hasn't spilled spaghetti recently. Spaghetti was the only thing that definitively proved Serena has a crush. There was spaghetti prior to the argument. After the argument? Nothing.
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>>27219559
don't five billion episodes usually go by without any amourshipping

like there's a reason there's only a handful of episodes and moments to pick out between XY and XY&Z
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>>27219614
Its the Pokemon anime, of course they're not going to have shipping in every single episode.
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>>27219559
Dude, Global Rule 10 exists for a reason. Just report and/or filter.
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Repeat a lie often enough, it doesn't become true.
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>>27219636
you act as if mods are smart enough to notice Rule 10 breaking unless its obvious as fuck like picdumpings
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>>27219638
Where's the spaghetti then? Why hasn't she spilled any?
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>>27219614
You're wrong at assuming the guy spamming the same shit cares about that in the first place. He's been at it since the New Year preview.
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>>27219638
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>XY&Z37: The Finals! Ash VS Alan!!
What the fuck is the point to watch the upcoming episode if they already spoiled the fact Shota is going to lose? That's bullshit.
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>>27219671
well duh he's gonna lose

now we're just waiting for the good animation and shota being all "mmm satoshi uguu" like always
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>>27219658
This, mods clearly aren't familiar enough with these threads to actually realize when someone is baiting, even if it's so damn obvious.
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>>27219671
We had known that Shota would lose since the last pokefan
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>>27219671
To watch a good battle.

Why would people watch The Fellowship of the Ring and the Two Towers if we already know that the shit is solved in Return of the King?
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>>27219700
Wait, so they actually allowed Frodo to be the king?
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>>27219670
Didn't Tierno and the others laughed at this scene?

Who's laughing now, bitches.
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>>27219670
This could easily be argued as a mother proud of her son.

>>27219614
>don't five billion episodes usually go by without any amour shipping
>five billion

Amour is pretty consistent, as was Serena spilling spaghetti up until recently. This is the longest gap we've had of no spaghetti.
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>>27219711
No, but Sam did become the Mayor of the Shire.
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>>27219739
>a mother proud of her son.

haha, holy shit this bait is so pathetic it's actually funny, please stop.
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>>27219711
please tell me you were not serious there
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>>27219765
>>a mother proud of her son
I miss her..
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>>27219801
delia could totally beat up ash huh
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>>27219801
Makes you wonder if the writers are doing this on purpose, or if its all subconciously and they don't realize it.
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>>27219670
>two tiny lines of blush

YOU GUYS SHE'S IN LOVE WITH HIM. HER PANTIES MUST BE SOAKED.
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>>27219630
A count of episodes where Serena spilled spaghetti/blushed over Ash (worried waifu isn't in this list)

XY006
XY007
XY013
XY021
XY025
XY026
XY031
XY040
XY059
XY060
XY080
XY085
XY090
XYZ012
XYZ022

15 episodes out of 120+ episodes isn't much.
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>mfw the dub makes amourshipping even more blatant than the japs
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>>27219832
kid show writers love them their hamfisted parallels, i'm sure they knew exactly what they were doing
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>>27219858
Forgot to add XYZ19 and 20. So that makes 17 episodes.
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>>27219858
This is the Pokemon anime. Everything they've done with Serena is to a shipping extreme completely unheard of in this show. We all know this because we've followed the anime for nearly 20 years and we've never had this much shipping with a main girl to the point where its a major part of her character.

Even Contestshipping in AG was mostly from Drew's side until May realized she liked him in late Hoenn and BF.
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>>27219835
Exactly, her recent "blushes" are nowhere near the quality of the ones we saw in the dance episode, or the Serena becomes Ash episode. They're weak.
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>>27219671
They can't hide the titles of upcoming episodes for long anyway. And how would you have called 37 and 38 to avoid spoilers?
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>>27219912
>one where she thought they were all dressed up and gonna have a romantic dance
>one where she stripped in front of him and wore all his clothing
man yeah i can see why different situations would elicit different emotional responses from someone
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>>27219832
>>27219865
BW141 and XY60 were wrotten by Tomioka.
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>>27219893
>Everything they've done with Serena is to a shipping extreme completely unheard of in this show.

Which makes the recent drought even more noticeable.


>>27219950
The point is there hasn't been situations set up where she can spill spaghetti for a while, and with all the other serious shit coming up we'll have to wait even longer for more spaghetti.
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>shipping needs to happen every X episodes or its nonexistant

you fags are strange, pokeshippers have gone 13 years without material and it hasn't stopped them
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I'm way behind on the anime, which episodes from XY37 onwards can I skip?
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>>27220004
it's worth it

the serious shit actually looks neat for once
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>>27219858
>XY40 - XY59
>XY60 - XY80
19 n 20 fucking episodes
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>>27219995
>"Your friends have fallen, Satoshi. Even Alan now lies defeated here after betraying me. Now, fulfill your destiny and join me."
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>>27220030
they're spoiled

on another note, i really want more millefeui
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Is Pikachu gonna beat Mega Gyarados????

Light Ball Pikachu can actaully OHKO Mega Gyarados with Thunder.
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>>27220030
It's within the current series. They gave us three Amour posters (one for Valentines and two for the movies), and suddenly not giving one with the last movie when there was one for the previous too is very strange. Not to mention the lack of situations for Serena to be put in to spill spaghetti.

Like there needs to be a scene in the league were Tierno tries to flirt with Serena and Shauna tells him she's taken.
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>>27220031
I was going to use
>http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?639382-Non-Filler-XY-Series-Episode-List
and read the episode summary of the skipped ones.
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>>27220080
i want the triumphant return of thunder. natural lightning-powered thunder.
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>>27220030
>tfw stale is pokeshipper...
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>>27220030
No, it's just one guy talking to himself. He tried it back in the timespan between Serena getting a ribbon and Serena's first tripokalon victory,

And look at where we are now, still talking to himself. Moving goalpost after goalpost.
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>>27220030
It's literally only one guy that has been spamming his "Wulfric arc"/"admire"/"spaghetti" thing for the past three weeks straight. Just search for his autism in the archive.
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>>27219995
>that inset image in Pokefan with Lysandre talking to Ash probably giving him a speech
W-Will they do it? Will they make Lysandre try to corrupt Ash.
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something admirable about someone being this dedicated at trying to annoying a few people.
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>>27220056
>XY40 - XY59
Nope she blushed over Ash in XY053.
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Did Lyssandre have a dead wife?
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>>27220158
>dat all according to keikaku face
From shiny eyes Alan, to bloodlust Ash, and now keikaku Lysandre, this series fucking loves its expressions.
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>>27220173
Your grammar annoys me.
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>>27220197
No, he and Sycamore are actually childhood friends where they promised each other that they will one day bring peace to the world. Sycamore however forgot Lysandre, but not the promise, and as such continued to research Mega Evolutions to help people, meanwhile, Lysandre took a different path, believing that he can use Mega Evolution energy to fulfill their promise by force.
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>>27220205
there better be a return of eyes of death perception alain and crazy ash from the diantha fight
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>>27220120
>Moving goalpost after goalpost.

Haven't changed my stance or argument at all. The lack of spaghetti recently is pretty telling. I doubt there will be any in the rest of the league, that would make 16 episodes without spaghetti. There probably won't be any during the TF arc, which if it's 5 episodes...that would make 21 episodes without Serena blushing over Ash.
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>>27220234
I don't think so, but fiery backgrounds signifying a character's passion is making its return.
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>>27220225
Realized after i hit post how fucked that sentence was, oh well.
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>>27220251
XY&Z34-35 were written by Akemi
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>>27220187
Correctly.
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>>27220264
We're missing someone having an incredibly deformed face while screaming. Here's hoping.
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WHAT!?! THIS NEW EPISODE!!!

LOOK AT SERENA!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQdDuJaDYw0&t=834s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQdDuJaDYw0&t=834s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQdDuJaDYw0&t=834s
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Will Alan ever make the connection?
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>>27220305
And if there's no spaghetti in those episodes? Then what? Everyone will be too busy listening to and asking questions of exposition Clemont during those episodes.

There needs to be a scene during the league of Tierno realizing he'll never have a chance with Serena because of Ash. That prove Amour was still alive.
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Tfw this is the most recent considerably big blush and it wasn't even for Ash it was for Clemont's food.
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>>27220363
>clemont's food
>victory high
>wearing ash's clothes
many factors anon
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>>27220158
Now seeing the image. I am now more convinced that it isn't Manon that finds Chespin in the league, but Ash instead.

This probably leads to Ash pretty much debating with Lysandre regarding how to gain strength/wanting Ash to work for him, leading to doubts being sown into Alain as he eavesdrop the conversation. All the while Ash is holding Chespin in his arms.

Anybody getting this vibe as well?
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>>27220356
Probably only when Manon is around to remind him.

>yfw Reformed Alain goes full Ash later
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>>27220381
The blush itself really doesn't mean anything, it's just sad that it's the biggest thing we've gotten in a while.
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>>27220381
It was Clemont's food. But even then, she had the blush earlier in the episode. Why haven't they made up opportunities for Serena to spill spaghetti since then? What is going on? Just a little tease from Bonnie or something would suffice.
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>>27220425
current writer isn't an amourshipper i guess

has bonnie had an opportunity to exercise her "fuck my brother si vous plait" gag recently
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>>27220388
Not at all. How do you even make that theory from that image?
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So I haven't watched for a while but was about to start back in where the anime is at because I heard Ash isn't as much of a dumb ass anymore. In the anime are they about to start a league tournament?
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>>27220388
does having malva in his pocket make lysandre think he can corrupt any elite four-level trainer? crazy arrogant
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>>27220454
It just feels like it. Lysandre casually chatting Ash before Ash even knows he is his enemy. Not many opportunities for that other than after the league.
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>>27220459
Already began, next episode is the start of the semifinals. There's a high chance Ash will win the league.
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>>27220444
Most of the writers are "Amour writers". And it doesn't take much to throw in a sign that Serena still has a crush on Ash.

Pic related makes it seem like she doesn't even like Ash romantically anymore because of the contrast between XYZ31 and XYZ12
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>>27220469
>implying it isn't Lysandre that Malva has in her pocket, if you know what I mean.
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>>27220499
>Most of the writers are "Amour writers"
citation needed
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>>27220521
Akemi Omode
Shinzo Fujita
Hideki Sonoda
Shoji Yonemura
Atsuhiro Tomokia

that only leaves two that aren't. Takegami and whoever the other guy is.
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>>27220486
Maybe it's after the final, and Lysandre is congratulating Ash/trying to find out what the Ash-Greninja transformation is all about.
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>>27220459
Ash shits on nearly everyone in the league.
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>>27220459
This is Ash's first battle in the league: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afjaY54TlWQ

It's such an assrape they cut away after the first matchup and Ash declares he'll one-shot the two remaining Pokémon as well, implying that he does.
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In the middle of watching XY&Z

Will Citron's faggot Chespin ever evolve
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Was the movie preview that aired on that Japanese variety show ever uploaded?
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>>27220657
No, I'm sorry. I was hoping for Manon's based Chespin to evolve, but plot struck him hard.
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>>27220486
>>27220578
Well, regardless whether or not it happens before or after, I hope just hope it goes full shonen and have Ash somehow out-talk Lysandre.

Just like his speech with Takeru.
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Fellow Dutch fags

What do we think of Alan's Dutch dub voice?

http://video.disney.nl/videos/pokemon-aflevering-13-seizoen-19-535b3df5fa6a02b040be4bdf
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>>27220691
That's a damn shame. They had two great opportunities for it to evolve twice too, in the filler eps with Quilladin and the one with Chesnaught
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>>27220657
No.
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>>27220413
Think about the rapid succession of blushing Serena spaghetti.

XYZ012
XYZ019
ZYZ020
XYZ022

After this? Nothing.
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>>27218565
>my OTP
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>>27220656
I feel bad for Tomo. jesus christ
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>>27220731
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>>27220769
That's not blushing spaghetti
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The anime is shit.
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>>27220817
We all are
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>>27220764
He must've cried in his _boyfriend's arms so hard after the battle.
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>>27220769
So tiny
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>>27220817
The world is shit
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>>27220769
Serena is so fucking useless. All she has been doing during the past months is stand in the background worrying about Ash.
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>>27220902
I want spaghetti to come back, worrying about Ash is great an all but all the girls have done that. Spaghetti was the main thing that separated Serena from the rest. Now that it's gone, it's like I'm watching Ash/May or Ash/Dawn.
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>>27220902
Misty,May,Dawn,Iris?
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>>27220868
But Za Warudo is a classic.
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I hope Serena carries on to the next region as the female companion.
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Gary oak and Ash are related. Look at Professor oak's hair and eyebrows, they're almost identical, and they have the same smile.

Ash's mother's bangs look like Gary oak's, they also have the same eyes and facial bone structure. Notice how Ash's mother is always hanging out with Professor oak. Are they lovers? How deep does the rabbit hole go?
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>>27221205
delia was his student

i think it was a fuyutsuki situation
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What has changed so far since this image was made?

Which ones are the most bullshit in your opinion?
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>>27221283
Well, for starters, Noibat evolved.

Also, how the fuck do we explain that lousy win pctg. for Charizard?
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>>27221283
Is Torkoal the Yamcha of the show?
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>>27221323
torkoal didn't get his love interest stolen by a pokemon who nearly destroyed the earth
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>>27221283
BW really tried to play up Snivy as hardcore, but that 25% win rate is just sad.
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>>27221283
Why is Goodra so strong? ITS NOT FAIR ITS JUST A MEMEMON!
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>>27221283
Actually, I don't know if this image was made before or after the great synchro failure, so I don't know if it accounts for that and the Wulfric win. It definitely doesn't have the League included, but that was very recent.
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>>27221170
For what. Her main draw was her crush on Ash. Now we don't even know if she has that anymore.
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>>27221283
So what is objectively Ash's STRONGEST 6-man team when taking all of this in? Remember that win percentage isn't always everything.

I think Infernape is a guaranteed slot for starters.
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>>27221283
Why doesn't he fully evolve a lot of his pokemon. Does he not love them enough?
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>>27221384
I'm not sure if Infernape would ever do as well as he did when he was destroying Paul ever again.
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>>27221384
snoarlax is a beast too
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>>27221283
>all those dinky unevolved unova shitters

GODDAMN unova
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would you guys agree that ash greninja is his strongest of all time?

Just finished the episode where he fought diantha and almost kicked her ass before he passed out
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>>27221406
There's an argument to be made for Charizard for tussling with Articuno and Entei, but Greninja is the only one to pressure a Champion's signature pokemon. Compare and contrast to whatever team Agatha destroyed before the Battle Frontier.
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>>27221384
If you include Pikachu in that team (because Ash will always do that):
>Pikachu
>Charizard
>Sceptile
>Infernape
>Greninja
>Snorlax/Krookodile/Goodra

If you don't want to include Pikachu, choose two out of those last three, instead of just one.
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>>27220341
This isn't Yugioh anon
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>>27221384
greninja
infernape
goodra
snorlax
krookodile/sceptile
Pikachu
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>>27221424
Charizard didn't even do shit to Entei, it was a stomp as soon as Entei could get to him.
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>>27221424
When did zard fight those legends? I haven't watched OS-johto in like a decade.

Also greninjas role in this new movie might put him even higher up. He's got to fight a lot of megas
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>>27221406
I still mantain that Charizard is stronger than regular Greninja. But while in the Ash-Greninja forme, the frog is undoubtely the strongest of Ash's Pokemon.
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>>27221444
Not yet.
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>>27220695
I can only speak for myself, I wont associate with Dutch people. Both Alan and Shota's voices fit them.
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>Ash has never officially caught a Pokémon of the Steel, Psychic, Ghost, or Fairy types, nor a genderless Pokémon.
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>>27221470
He fought articuno in the lugia movie and entei in the Unknown movie.
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>>27221470
Zard fought Articuno in the battle frontier. The first frontier brain Ash fought was the Battle Arcade guy and they had a 1 on 1 Charizard vs Articuno.
Entei was imagined up by Molly in the 3rd Pokemon Movie.
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>>27221470
He fought an Articuno during the Battle Frontier
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>>27221466
Well he endured at least.

Same with Pikachu eating a Zekrom lightning bolt and not just being vaporized
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>>27221496
Charizard didn't fight anyone in the Lugia movie. He only defended himself against their blasts, he only fought Articuno in Battle Frontier.
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If Squirtle is so cool howcomezit Bulbasaur and Charizard appear more in the anime?
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Infernape > Greninja
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>>27221640
>le meme auras of energy

Dropped.
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>>27221640
Who cares? They're literally just another iteration of one another.
>Both used goods
>Both got stronk under Ash's ownership
>Both are able to go EVEN FURTHER BEYOND a power they could only master with Ash in their final stages of evolution
>Same VA
>Both objectively best Pokemon Ash caught in Sinnoh and Kalos respectively
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>>27221640
>Gohan
>Naruto
next ace is either gonna be stretchy or a ghost/dark type that fights with finger guns
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>Gible has 7th highest win-rate

imagine if he'd fucking evolved, he'd have raped the fuck out of Tobias with it
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>>27221710
garchomp would have also made cynthia wet, which is the important part
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>>27221640
> Kaio-Ken>Super Saiyan

You got it wrong.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk9D72CRK9s

Synchronization happens to Korrina and Lucario. The question is when is he going to Sync with pickachu, Infernape, Charazard,spetile, or any other pokemon he's close to like he does with frog?
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>>27221785
tomorrow
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Why do we just call him "the frog" now? Why so derogatory?
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>>27221785
striking the same opening pose doesn't mean synchro

no weird overlays of korrina over him, and no surprisingly talented star wars kid crap from korrina
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>>27221491
To think Ash has such as cute girl in love with him and then he fucked it up.
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>>27221283
The reason this percentage makes no sense is because Pokemon who battle more will obviously have the most losses.

The reason Sceptile is so low down is because the person is probably considering all of Treecko's losses in the Gyms in Hoenn. Treecko usually beat one Pokemon in a Gym and lost to another, so it has a lot of losses despite being Ash's most used pokemon.
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>>27221829
She doesn't look like that anymore.
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I think any attempt to measure a pokemon's skill in this anime is all for naught since they can decide on a dime to have them fail to a newly hatched Magikarp if they wanted to. It doesn't matter if they have defeated Arceus itself, they can and will be defeated by something so trivial that they won't even realize it.
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>>27221871
Case in point, Pikachu goes from beating legendaries at the end of one saga to losing to new unevolved weak pokemon in the next.
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>>27221470
Sceptile also battled Brandon's Regirock and brought it to its knees, as well as Darkrai.
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>>27221865
Sceptile is overrated shit. The number of battles excuse doesn't really work when it had more or less the same number as Swellow and Corphish during Hoenn.
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>>27221785
First of all, matching poses are not the entire extent of what it takes to do what Ash and Greninja do.

Second and most important, why do people think every Mon can do what Ash's Greninja does? The bond is like a key that activates the form, the bond itself means shit if the Pokemon can't access a special transformation without it.
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>>27221764
more like Kaio-Ken vs Super Saiyan Frog Super Saiyan
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>>27221951
That only makes sense if you break the fourth wall. There is no sense internally why any pokemon can't do it. All pokemon can be bonded with.
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>>27221951
alright then tough guy I'll wait for GF to MAKE a synchro!Pikachu then wait even longer for the anime to introduce and half-ass an explanation for why Pikachu couldn't use it before but suddenly can
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>>27221994
is there any sense internally why only groudon and kyogre can absorb natural energy to go primal

just accept it
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>>27221883
Actually, the only mon that that premise applies to is Pikachu, since it is the only mon that has been consistently shown battling through all of the series. Previous Mons only appear on certain occasions like a league, and their power levels seem to be fairly consistent. Pikachu is the only one who is the definition of "as strong as it needs to be".

Also, it seems he went back to some older spam. Just in case a newfag wants to reply to him, or a janitor appears around here.
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/search/text/Ash%20pedestal/
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/search/text/Serena%20perfect%20image/
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>>27221994
All Pokemon can be bonded it, but not all Pokemon have a super transformation that is activated by that bond.

Think about it like this: The person Naruto is closest to dies. Does Naruto gain the Mangekyou Sharingan?
>inb4 Nardo
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>>27222096
no but i bet his kid does
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>>27222117
I was thinking the same thing. As soon as Boruto makes babby with Sarada, it'll happen.
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The Volcanion manga makes me wish they'd do another full Ash-centered AU. Adventure is great but I like the anime setting rules that don't involve levels and stuff better. Also Dex Holders and Special Skills are silly
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>>27222015
The bond and natural energy are obviously two means of achieving the same thing. Why aren't there Megas, then? Fourth wall again. It would also be redundant since it would just be the Primals again. It is my belief that Infinity Energy can be invoked in a number of ways, but it is all ultimately Infinity Energy. If Synchro becomes a thing, it will still be the same thing.
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>Will Serena win da Ash?
>It sure looks that way.

When will that change in the OP?
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>>27221640
They both fill the exact same role on Ash's team.
That being said, I liked Infernape more since it's one of the few of Ash's mons to have its own character arc.
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>mfw I realized I understand episode without subs and I've waited for them out of habit.
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The Janitor.
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>>27222198
When the next two Omode episodes air and there's no spaghetti in them.
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Reminder: Alan's Charizard is a Manlet with Nerd arms and would be crushed by Ashes non-mega charizard with its superior height and tree trunk arms.
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>>27221623
Squirtle really was painfully underused, wasn't it?
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>>27221640
Hawlucha>Buizel
Noivern<Gliscor
Talonflame>Staraptor
Greninja=Infernape
XY Pikachu>DP Pikachu
Goodra>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Torterra
Discuss
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>>27222218
I'm fairly fucking sure you never got most of the dialogue-centric jokes in 31 without the subs.
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>>27222302
It hasn't even been seen physically since the Battle Frontier arc whereas Bulbasaur and Charizard were both in BW.
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>>27222366
Yeah, but I meant back when it was on the team. His main mons were Pikachu, Bulbasaur and Charizard, with Squirtle rarely ever doing shit.
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>>27220264
Friendly reminder that last battle with Lys in games had place on surface of the motherfucking sun.
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>>27222395
is that more or less dangerous than fighting in close proximity to a black hole
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>>27222316
Ash-Greninja>>Blaze Infernape>Greninja>=Infernape

>>27222222
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>>27222352
It's not like I understand them any better in English.
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>>27222096
In my view, there is no such thing as a "unique" power. Few people can understand how to do it, but that doesn't mean it's beyond the capability of anyone to do it. True, "anyone" can't do it simply because not "everyone" has the mind for it. To INHERENTLY not be able to do it, though? All energy-based abilities have no reason for this to happen. The only way it can happen is for it to be a physical limitation. This can sometimes be overcome if the system allows for energy-based constructs to stand in for the lack of physical features that make it possible. Evolution of any kind is not a physical limitation in pokemon at all. Everything regardless of body type can do it.
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>>27222444
dude it's just jessie fucking up a word that begins with the same syllable as some other words

how could you not comprehend that in your native language
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>>27222457
pretty sure a gardevoir can't evolve into a typhlosion no matter how hard it tries
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>>27222316
DP Satoshi < XY Satoshi
DP Pika < XY Pika
Torterra <<<<< Goodra
Buizel << Mucha Lucha
Noivern < Gliscor
Staraptor < Talonflame
Infernape < Greninja < Blaze Infernape <<< Synchro-Greninja

DP Team < XY Team
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>>27222464
Neither English nor Japanese is my native language.
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>>27222457
Wow, really makes you think...
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>>27222465
this is stupidly worded as fuck
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>>27221283
Win percentage doesn't mean shit though. Number of moves needed to KO, number of battles, if the opponent had already battled other mon etc. are not accounted for in these statistics. Scraggy or Goodra for example don't nearly have as much battles as Pikachu or Pignite.
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>>27221384

Infernape, Greninja, Kingler, Snorlax, Heracross, Pikachu (assuming he would never not have Pikachu taking up a slot).
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>>27222316
XY Pikachu < DP Pikachu
Talonflame > Staraptor
Greninja > Infernape
Hawlucha > Buizel
Noivern < Gliscor
Goodra > Torterra and Gible combined
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>>27222483
I am going to go on record and say that the limitations of evolution as they are presented don't make sense. We've seen pokemon cross phyla and even kingdoms with their evolutions, why can't they arrive at another pokemon's evolution? Or even an evolution that has not been seen? Or even something else entirely? The only limitations is programming. The fourth wall.
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>>27222457
Tons of pokemon can't evolve
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>>27222487
Personally, I'd argue that DP Ash was a better strategy maker than XY Ash.
>>
Satoshi > Tobias.
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>>27218565
>Shit people will ask:
>>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
>Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.


>pokemon anime
>good
>ever

Im laffin. It is made for children under 12 years, sadly
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>>27220695
It's aight. I feel like this dub does better a better job than the English one. Also the voices match the Japanese ones better.
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Wulfric arc was pretty brutal. That Ash and Serena scene in the forest hurt to watch but really made me respect the anime more for actually putting emotion into things.

I just hope it didn't hurt Ash and Serena's relationship
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>>27222465
Is this the worst possible way to get rid of amour?
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>>27222618
Relatively speaking, obv
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>>27222633
I wanna see it dubbed.
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>>27222598
And for Kangaskhan, this makes ABSOLUTELY no sense.

For all the others, I will still say there is no reason why they don't have other forms.
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>>27222633
It completely killed amour.
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>>27222646
How far behind is the dub from XYZ 28?
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>>27222521
oh whoops

>>27222589
man there's sentient swords and shit and porygon is a computer program. pokemon biology just can't be compared to real world biology. i think fucking oddish is the only one that has a scientific name in the same vein as real ones and it's goofy as fuck

>>27222612
the man just had his pokemon spin around

although i'm surprised elemental "Counter Shield"s weren't codified as an actual technique in either the games or the anime

XY Ash's fight with Olympia was pretty aces in terms of strategy
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>>27222657
>>27219638
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>>27222633
>>27222657
>Wulfric arc
samefag get a life
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>>27222666
Its at this point >>27220345
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>>27222656
baby kangaskhan to mom kangaskhan isn't an evolution, it's just aging

although why kangaskhan comes right out of the egg preloaded with an infant is not something i want to think about
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>>27222612
Even a victory for XY, his "ultimate team"
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>>27222589
>confusednigga.bmp
What in the flying fuck?
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>>27222673
1. All the more reason not to regard it as being limited.

2. I will again use the argument that if something is not what we understand it to be, then they might as well be speaking another language. A language that there is no way anyone on Earth can know how it's structured.
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>>27222612
Not sure. In XY Ash is more flexible and comes up with those strategies on the spot. He's more adaptive and doesn't really need these pre-planned tactics like for example Tierno also has.
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>>27222693
If you're going to treat it as aging, then it looks and acts exactly the same as evolution, save for the matter we haven't seen it happen.
>>
How long has he been at it now?
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>>27221640
>>27222316
No, base Greninja>>>Infernape who got neg diff'd by an Elite four member.
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>>27222680
Yeah all me
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>>27222521
Neither are mine but that anon is right, they weren't difficult jokes to understand, Not to mention PM didn't translate them literally anyway, for instance Jessie says 'katamari' instead of 'karakuri' towards the end which is translated by PM as 'indecency' just to sound similar to 'ingenuity' (thus keeping the context of the joke intact but not the meaning of the word).
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>>27222770
>>27219638
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>>27222612
The only tactic Ash came up with was the one he stole from Dawn.
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>>27222792
has there been spaghetti since then though?
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>>27222754

Cut

Infernape > Greninja
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>>27222803
>>27219858

>>27220056
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>>27222827
so there hasn't been

it's a simple question, mrs. clinton
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>>27222748
It's just one of those things that'll we'll never know as GF won't ever provide answers. Just like what Diglett/Dugtrio's bodies are underground, where meat comes from, if Hitmonchan's/Jynx's/Diancie's clothes part of their skin/flesh and if they are born with it, how time works etc
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>>27222809
One move suddenly makes him worse even though even a base Greninja has better feats than Blaze Infernape?

Fuck out of here
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>>27222765
S A M E F A G get a life
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>>27222809
Game logic =/= Anime logic. Greninja's Cut is just as strong as if not stronger than Infernape's Mach Punch.
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>>27222849
anime version of cut's amazing

hardlight energy constructs of basically whatever the fuck frog wants
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>>27222778
They were difficult enough that the spicsubs had no fucking clue what was going on in any of those lines
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>>27220345
>Now's our chance
>>
1 guy falls for bait, samefag goes into hyperdrive
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At least we all agree that
SatoshiGekkouga > any other Satoshi pokemon

Right? except genwunners
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>>27222837
>He thinks he can discuss the anime seriously
Clown of padt
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Can I download the english dub of XY from somewhere? I can't seem to find them on Nyaa, TPB or Tokyo Toshokan
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>>27220695
Wait DisneyXD just put all their episodes up until XYZ 20 online? They don't air it on tv no more?
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>>27222849
>One move suddenly makes him worse

Cut is the frogs main attack. And it's fucking Cut, a weak, boring shit attack.

So yes, it makes Greninja quite a bit worse. Infernape's moveset is so much better overall.
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>>27222899
>watching the dub
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>>27222752
He never leaves, anon. He's been here 24/7 since October. Just search the following on Nyafuu:
>get over Ash
>blushing over Clemont
>fall for Clemont
>admire love
>Serena perfect image
>Ash pedestal
>written off/phased out

Any other phrase that he tends to overuse that I might be missing?
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>>27222899
Why the fuck would you want to download the dub? What is wrong with you? Just watch the subs.
>>
Stop replying to him.
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>>27222904
His Cut isn't weak via anime logic you retard.

You are literally only saying this because you like Infernape more.
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>>27222922
>>27222930
I think it's multiple people and you're just strawmanning anons. You've lost control.
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>>27222922
>>27222911
>>27222899
>>27222877
>>27222722
>>27222666
>>27222633
>>27222622
/padt/ has been dub galore this past half hour
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>>27222904
why are you applying game logic to this stuff

greninja skated on frozen cut to increase his evasion to finish off abomasnow with a multihit aerial ace that did extra damage when he grappled abomasnow and rammed his skull into the ceiling

ash-greninja doesn't even exist in the game. Super Ultra Big Orange Water Shuriken isn't a real move, Repeating Water Shuriken isn't either, nor is rapidfire Shadow Balls or a Moonblast that has charge time
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>>27222922
>Just search the following on Nyafuu
>being so butt blasted you have use a filter

Does Serena not loving Ash anymore really hurt that much?
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>>27222876
I know, they're difficult in the sense that it's all wordplay in Japanese and thus not meant to be translated literally to get the joke across. PM made the right choice, up to translating karakuri as 'ingenuity' rather than 'mechanism' so that they'd be able to find similar-sounding words more easily.
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>>27222917
Don't care. This isn't about amour.
Kill yourself already.
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>>27222933
Amour dies because of Yashio. It started dying because of Yashio even before the Master Class happened.
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>>27222944
>basically the same post every time
>same choice of words, same endless reply chain
>hurr it's multiple people
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>>27222911
>>27222924
Why are you so triggered? Did the dub rape your mom or something? It's not the fucking bee's knees but is it really worth getting this asspained?
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>>27218565
Is this real
>>
So with the incredibly shitty, rushed first few league episodes, and given that Ash vs Shota is a decent fight, and Ash vs Alan a great one, the league ranking is as follows

Sinnoh league > Hoenn league > Johto league > Kalos league > Indigo league > Unova league
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>>27222899
>getting dubs
>wanting to watch the dub
why do you condemn yourself to this monstrosity, when the glorious subs of freedom are before you
>>
>>27222985
Which posts?
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>>27222911
>>27222924
Because the names on the 'mons are WRONG that's why.
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>>27222993
Close
I'd say
Sinnoh > Johto > Hoenn > Kalos > Unova > Kanto
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>>27222993
You haven't even seen the two fights yet, how are you already ranking these
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>>27222633
Right now the focus is on the league and Zygarde. They'll return to the Serena subplot once all the battling is finished.
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>>27222987
No the dub raped the anime, in particular the voice acting and the BGM.
And welcome to /padt/
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who cares about Serena anymore?
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Repeat a lie often enough, it doesn't become true
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>>27222987
It's just funposting anon. No one actually cares about the dub enough to hate it.
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Rate my wife.

Not being Serena is not a bad thing because I'm not Ash, therefore Serena couldn't be mine.
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>>27222967
Yeah, but the spicsubs didn't even realize she WAS getting the word wrong, so you just got retarded garbage like "What is this trick?" "It's a trick" over and over. It was hilariously bad.
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>>27223012
What are you talking about?
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>>27222944
If there is spaghetti in either of XYZ34 or 35 (Omode episodes) it show that Serena is still in love. Without spaghetti no one knows anything.
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>>27223009
These:
>https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/search/text/Serena%20spaghetti%20%20/

Were you here on May?
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>>27223048
looks kinda young anon
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has Serena ever been as irrelevant as she is now?
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>>27223005
Now, back to the relevant question when will you kill yourself? I mean 24/7 jesus
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>>27222904
>Cut, a weak, boring shit attack.
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>>27223012
it's weird PM used japanese names for all the mons but english ones for the attacks
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>>27223085
Yeah for the first half of XY when she didn't know about the existence of Tripokalons yet and all she did was whine about Rhyhorn racing and wanting to have a hobby too
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>>27223059
The Japanese names for the Pokemon is different from the western names.
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>>27223113
It's some stupid shit, they have autistic guidelines about them on their site.
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>>27222904
he uses cut because they want rica to scream iaigiri a lot
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I feel like Frog, Goodra and Pikachu form the backbone of Ash's XY team while the other three are more auxiliary. It's kinda like Kuroko no Basuke where Kagami, Kuroko and Kiyoshi were the core of Seirin's team while everyone else ranged from slightly above average (Hyuga, Izuki) to complete shit (the entire bench.)
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>3 days and a half left
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>>27223134
Well yeah but what about it?
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>>27223075
No I left for a few months. I'll look into it.
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>>27223113
Most of the English attack names are direct translations of the Japanese ones, and the ones that aren't are just going to cause confusion, especially with shit like Comet Punch and Low Kick.
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>>27223085
>episodes about Ash finishing his rivalry with Alan and Shota and the start of the final story arc
>expects focus on Serena

You can't be that stupid. The anime doesn't have to focus on Amour every episode. This sort of thing happened before in which some dumb Anon(s) would claim "Amour is dead" because Serena has spent more than a few episodes without gushing over Ash.
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>>27223048
ugh too ugly
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>>27223113
>>27223141
English names for moves and abilities make sense, otherwise they'd be creating unofficial translations for them which would just confuse everyone, and if they left them in Japanese many people wouldn't understand which moves they are.
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>>27223077
Gotta get to them before they get the chance to see how much better they could be doing than me.
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GODDESS
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>>27223189
>>27223099
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>>27223034
Would the anime turn Lillie into a tsundere? Lyra looked like a sweet girl but when she met Dane and friends was kind of a shipper with adhd.
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>>27223181
Literally every single post in this entire thread that has mentioned either Serena or amour at all is either a shitpost or some dumbass replying to a shitpost. All the sperging and "arguing" is actually just copypasted falseflagging.

And that's why you should not reply to any of them.
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>>27223203
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>>27223162
84 hours and 25 minutes left.
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>>27223225
Lyra wanted to bang multiple dudes

so much for waifu
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>>27223143
iai giri sounds cool though. So does tsubame gaeshi
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>>27223232
83 hours and 25 minutes to tiefu
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>>27223211
Future mother of my kids!
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>>27223225
We don't even know what her in-game role is. As far as we know she works for Kukui. But she might as well be the villain or another Zinnia/N.
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>>27223255
they sound ninja as fuck whatever they mean, so it's natural they'd give them to greninja regardless of what an actual good movelist is

didn't he learn Cut via level-up? anime is weird
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>>27223228
OK OK good taste, good waifu

even too old
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Spaghetti will drop when Ash wins the league

Screencap this
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Uhhhh how can Selene have a crush on Ash if she's in love with Lillie?
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>>27223259
83 hours and 55 minutes to more Kasumi sisters.
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>Ash will win
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>>27223309
The best chance for spaghetti to spill is in Omode's next two episodes. But those will most certainly focus on Ash and Shota homolust, while Clemont just plays Mr. Exposition for everyone else. Then Alain comes up, and it will be Homolust there while Clemont plays the same role. Then there's TF. Where is time for spaghetti, so we can see Serena still loves Ash?
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>>27223358
>while Clemont just plays Mr. Exposition for everyone else

How can XY be the best season if it has glaring writing issues like this?
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>>27222993
>wanting to see Ash beat scrups instead of two full 6 vs 6 in the lasts rounds

Kys
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Mach Punch > Cut
Flare Blitz > Aerial Ace
Dig = Double Team
Water Shuriken = Flamethrower

Memefrog just can't compete with the ape
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>>27223325
>implying girls can be in love with girls
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>>27223373
it's a goddamn shounen property

you don't like the peanut gallery breaking down what just happened two seconds ago?
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>>27223378
Greninja has a boring moveset desu. I really dont like that the anime enforces the "4 moves only" rule that is clearly only a stipulation for the gameplay of the games
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>>27223378
>game double team: raises evasion by one step
>anime double team: motherfucking shadow clones that can also serve as Smokescreen or even be absorbed into Water Shuriken to power it up
stop anon
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>>27223378
Ash-greninja
water cut > mach punch
Aerial ace < flare blitz
Double team = dig
Big Water shuriken > flamethrower

Orange mega water shuriken >>>> everything infernape has
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>>27223373
Because it literally happens in every Pokemon season, except this time it isn't Brock or Cilian doing the exposition.
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>>27223378
Ninja's moveset should've been
Night Slash (for max edge)
Water Shuriken
Ice Punch
Double Team.
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Is it safe to say that 100% Ash-greninja's ability is to turn normal type attacks into water type attacks plus boost like pixilate?
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>>27222840
Well, I'm tired of that excuse, and that is all it is, an excuse. In fact, I don't even believe the answers they DO give because they're horribly inconsistent. If you want to get technical, there are things in real life we don't understand why it is they work that way, they just do. One matter I have not factored, though, is why pokemon STOP evolving, although I can also say this matter is arbitrary and has no real reason save for the fourth wall. I'm saying pokemon can just keep evolving forever? There is no evidence for this, but there is also no reason for me to believe the limitations I know to exist, as they are different for each pokemon. On one hand, you can say this difference is the reason for the limitation, but it is my understanding all pokemon have equal potential, so they should have the same kind of states. The only reason these states do not exist is because they were not programmed into the game. The only flaw in this is if you want to believe the difference in pokemon must also lead to a difference in capabilities. This would lead to a lie that makes Smogon right, and I refuse to believe in such a thing. There IS no inherently stronger. There is no inherently weaker. There is only a different point of view., a different way of doing things. Perhaps there is the only compromise I can make.

That would lead me to the conclusion evolution is indeed a physical limitation, despite being invoked by a form of energy.
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>>27223412
This but double team > dig

Dig is boring as fuck
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>>27223458
It's probably Protean. Greninja seriously hits a lot harder than it should.
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>>27223406
>Greninja has a boring moveset desu.

Main issue is that Aerial Ace and Cut are too much alike, and are used in the same situations with similar execution

Remove Cut, have it use Aerial Ace as the close combat battling technique, and give it Giga Impact or something similar so it has a full body power attack like Flare Blitz
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>"Mizu Shuriken..!"
>"Gekkouga, Kage Bunshin!"
>"Iai Giri da, Gekkouga!"
>"Tsubame Gaeshi...!"
>"ORETACHI WA MOTTO MOTTO TSUYOKU!! IKUZO...!!!"

We need more japanese in our lives
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>>27223490
But water cut is used nothing like aerial ace...
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>>27223458
I think it's to turn moves into whatever the hell it needs them to be at the time

don't tell me that aerial ace is aerial ace, that shit's close combat
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>>27223325
>subhuman kanto boy, you better don't try anything on the chicken. Get someone your own age.
>Why?
>cause'.. I..BLARG
>It's okay. I understand.I have someone like that in kalos.
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>>27223515
>ash confirmed for homewrecker
boy is too dense not to devastate lives
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>>27223458
It's Spiral Energy. His shuriken is the shuriken that will pierce the heavens.
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>>27223477
>Dig is boring as fuck

It's not. It's a great utility attack as it is taking advantage of the field and I find it enjoyable to see it used in the fights
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>>27223215
Why is Serena so inconsistent? How can one go from getting wet over someone to the point your body steams to acting normal around them an episode later. This is called inconsistent character.

If she truly still loves Ash, there'd be more signs than there are now. Right now, we have nothing. Right now, she's acting very normal around him, not like a person with a crush. And right after their argument.
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>>27223505
they are both go-to-your-opponent-and-smack-him attacks anon
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>>27223579
one of them gives greninja kunai and swords, so visually it's a good idea to have it. night slash would be the same thing but purple
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>>27223563
>>27222614

>>27223044
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>>27223473
...or rather, because pokemon are different, different things happen to different pokemon.
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>>27223605
I think we can all agree at least Ice Punch or Gunk Shot would be cool for the frog. Maybe Shadow Sneak?
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>>27223616
So again, where is the spaghetti? Why haven't we gotten more since XYZ22?
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Greninja = overpowered 'mon with a forced bond and a shitty moveset

I certainly won't miss it when Ash dumps it at Oaks in just 4 months
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>>27223634
shadow sneak for the teleporting heh nothin personnel thing?

he kinda already does it just moving, so having shadow sneak would be a command basically limited to "teleport behind a guy and stab them with an energy blade" which is something he can already do
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>>27223673
Why do you purposely post bait in an attempt to troll? Do you think anyone really cares?
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>>27223673
Go make a butthurt "Greninja hate thread" somewhere else, antifrogfag.
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I agree that Ash Greninja sorta just does whatever it wants with his moveset and it looks like it'll get even crazier in the next two battles. When you remember that Water Shuriken is supposed to be a multi-hit move with 15BP each and you see it work like this, it kinda stops mattering which move it is.
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How to make the next season great again

>Lillie doesn't like pokemon battles and warms up to them with stupid situations that involve her and Ash.
>She eventually becomes a skilled battle slut like Shota and becomes Ash rival
>Hau is a rerunning character that has a crush on Lillie and is Ash rival

FUND ME FAMPAI
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>>27223756
I'm butthurt Iwane is not animating the Ash vs Alan final. What were they thinking...
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>>27223756
i've always wanted to see ash improvising moves that eventually get recognized by whatever governing body legitimizes stuff for pokemon battles, but it's kinda disappointing that greninja does it automatically

also don't forget its unnamed water cloak ability, whatever the hell that thing is
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>>27223804
But he his, the first half. Nishitani is just as good if not better anyway.
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>Yes, I fuck her!
What would you do?
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>>27223806
>also don't forget its unnamed water cloak ability
Ash's counter shield users are furious
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>>27223820
*he is
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https://youtu.be/VrnCwpCEDzw
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>>27223806
I hope stuff like the spinning with Cut to drill through Frenzy Plant is something he tells Greninja to do instead of the latter just naturally coming up with it.
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>>27223821
diantha's cute, stop that
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>>27223876
Puni-chan going in.
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>>27223879
What is it you don't understand about synchro evolution? They're one, he doesn't need to tell greninja shit.
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>>27223800
Just have Lillie there, I don't care if she's a lesbian, timid, tsundere, bitch, has a penis, rival, anti cock fighting or a lesbian. I'd be happy just to see her. Who should voice her?
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>>27223951
He still told Greninja to drop the frozen kunais and use them as skates. Stuff like that.
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>>27224003
That's more for show than anything. We have seen him have inner dialogue with ash-greninja several timesm
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>>27223986
I want her to be a consistent character. Not lust over Ash one episode and act completely normal and comfortable around him the next.

If she has a romantic subplot, I don't want it killed off unceremoniously like Amour was.
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>>27224079
>>27223044
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>>27224044
Inner dialogue would be fine too (such as Ash telepathically telling Greninja how to dodge the logs on his way down while saving Spewpa) as long as it's Ash telling Greninja how to deal with the opponents' attacks. Or even just visual cues like Diantha did before she got backed into a corner, basically things that show how in sync they are.
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^

How pathetic can one shitposter be?
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>>27224094
Mean. I was legitimately discussing Ash Greninja with another anon. ;_;
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>>27224079
I kinda expected that sort of development with Armour. You can't have romantic tension in every episode because this is aimed at kodomos. Just hoping it has a good resolution.
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>>27224110
You know who I meant mate.
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>>27224123
>responding to patheticposter

Off yourself sanpei
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>>27224135
>>27224135
>>27224135
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>>27224140
Sorry. I also read that as sharpei. I wanted one as a kid but then got a cat. They are way superior starters than dogs.
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>>27224090
Why haven't we gotten spaghetti since XYZ22 then anon. You literally have no proof she still loves Ash, if she's not gushing over him.
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