Grass/Rock confirmed.

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Are you stupid OP
That clearly is a chespin! haven't you played on x and y?

>>26796647
Summer please leave hes obviously implying that since popplio can learn disarming voice everyone thinks its gonna be part fairy

>>26796647
it's a troll thread anon. you'd be wise to not post in it.

>>26796626
To be completely honest though if after seeing that picture you saw Quilladin and Chesnaught thinking that they're Rock could be completely normal, i mean they wear armor.

>>26796668
Oh, how embarrassing

>>26796668
You posted in it, does that mean you're not wise?

>>26796684
Wouldn't that make you think Steel more than Rock though?

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Normal confirmed.

>>26796689
You are correct im here for the troll posting. This is a unwise use of my time.

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Froakie water/ghost confirmed

More than half the pokemon that learn disarming voice by level are fairy type. Three quarters of them are either fairy type or have a mega with a fairy typing. They are ALL girly.

>>26796626
Nearly everything with rollout by level isn't a rock type. In fact only 3 rock types learn it by level.

>>26796855
There's hardly any ghost types with lick full stop. In fact, literally only the gastly line learns it and is a ghost type.


Any one else feel like being a retard.

>>26796872
Disarming Voice doesn't mean that Popplio will be girly

>>26796872
Pichu can learn Nasty Plot.

Discuss.

>>26796881
literally every pokemon that learns disarming voice by level up is either girly or evolves into something girly.

>>26796881
it 100% means it will be girly.

>>26796899
And only Cubone and Marrowack can use Bone Club.

>>26796626
Topu Keko

Though I still feel like Popplio will be Water/Fairy. I was personally hoping for pure Water, but oh well.

>>26796899
>>26796900
I'm pretty sure it gets it because of how loud sea lions are

in an earlier generation it might have gotten Supersonic

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>>26796626
Who cares. Just post more Chespin.

>>26796897
Pichu is a nasty ass motherfucker. Never trust a baby pokemon.

>>26796881
Oh so you took up my offer.

Clefairy, Jigglypuff, Ralts, Swablu, Skitty, Milotic, Audino, Florges, Espurr, Spritzee and Sylveon (and their respective prevos/evos) are all that learn it by level. All of them are girly.

>>26796914
Right right, that's why chatot and whismurr get it by level-
Oh wait, they don't. Because they aren't girly.

>>26796914
>>26796937
Also, disarming voice isn't a "loud" move, it'd be normal type if it was just a shout.
" Letting out a charming cry, the user does emotional damage to opposing Pokémon. This attack never misses. "
It's a faggot move.

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>>26796626
>>26796910

>learns peck right after ember
Torchic is fire/flying guys

>>26796977
>maractus learns peck

>>26796984
It must evolve into a grass/flying later.

>>26796944
>>26796937
Cute =/= girly

>>26796995
girly

milotic and florges aren't cute

>>26796970
I want him to impregnate me

>>26797012
>Having shit taste
Then why can Milotic have cute charm?

>>26796647

newfag get >>>/out/

>>26797029
you know cute charm is "Mad Love Body" in the original japanese right.

>>26796944
Wait a minute
>emotional damage
Ballio confirmed.

>>26796872
>>26796937

You, my friend, are a fucking retard. Have your (you's) because you definitely earned em.

>>26796626
>Rollout
Literally every pokemon that learns it as a level up move is either a spherical design or is designed to be able to curl up into a ball.
>Lick
Most pokemon that learn it has a big tongue or a large mouth as part of its design, or they are based on animals that use their tongue. Teddiursa/Ursaring and the elemental monkeys are exceptions.
>Peck
They all have a beak or horn. Next.
>Disarming Voice
They are all girly as fuck. No, it doesn't mean Popplio is surefire going to be Fairy, but it does strongly imply it will have a feminine design. Also it should be noted that its JP name is チャームボイス, charm voice. It's a soft, enchanting song, not a fucking howl that blasts opponents into submission.

Any more bullshit that needs to be debunked?

>>26797238
Yes, I'd like for something to disprove Rowlet's Grass/Ground, please?

>>26797238
>チャームボイス
>charm boys
what the fuck

>>26797248
It's called common sense.

>>26797250
Japs can't into pronouncing V, so they just run with B. Voice becomes boisu.

>>26796626
>weak to flying
>but it has a rock move
>its not fast enough to use it

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>>26797260
I wanted some debunking to my bs, though. Not something as trivial as common sense.

>>26797248
The leak grass/ground came from also gave us water/fighting for popplio, which is clearly no longer the case, ergo grass/ground is bogus too. it was a ruse.

>>26797271
Shit I thought that was a gif I saved a thumbnail fuck

Fucking hell goodnight /vp/ I'm too tired to deal with this shit

You people are unironically trying to say that it's more likely that every Pokemon ever that ends up getting disarming voice will always evolve in to some girly thing, than it is that maybe it just didn't have great distribution in the first gen that Its type existed?

You're also saying that it's more likely that this one move will determine Popplio's design and turn it girly even though every single other starter ever has been gender neutral, because Popplio is some sort of special snowflake?

Honestly kill yourself my man. Because that's pretty fucking retarded.

>>26797271
No starter has ever lost or replaced a secondary type upon evolving (unless you count mega evolution).

The only pokemon that has ever lost their flying type is Scyther to Scizor, who arguably doesn't have flight as a major theme for its design.

But to be honest it's hard to debunk Rowlett being ground without using the "it makes no sense!" card. Though saying "but burrowing owls is a thing that exists" isn't a very strong argument in its favor either, and Popplio is definitely not going to be fightng like that datamined leak suggested.

>>26797306
You're retarded if you think they are going to change the distribution based on you being triggered by a girly starter.

>>26797306
Protip: if you want people to take you seriously, try presenting actual arguments instead of stating opinions as fact and calling everyone who doesn't conform to your world view retarded.

"Starters are gender neutral" is a pretty weak argument when the Fennekin line exists, and going even further back many past starters like Emboar and Feraligatr have arguably looked masculine.

>>26797345
No, it's more because they constantly change distribution of moves all the time. Particularly when it's of a new type.

But don't worry, you just keep being a downsy fuck, the adults are talking.

>>26797367
oh really? Such as?

I don't think Popplio's going to be girly. Look at the way it puffs out its chest.

>>26797196
Do you know what "Meromero Body" means?

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>>26797392
Milotic confirmed for alcoholic.

>>26796659
>>26796668
>>26797175

baka

>>26797411

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-82yP6Csm8

>>26797411
>falling down drunk is equivalent to being madly in love in the Japanese language
Neat. Probably makes for fun poetry.

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>>26797367
I wonder what it feels like to be this constantly asspained.

>>26796647
I hope that's bait.

>>26796914
>I'm pretty sure it gets it because of how loud sea lions are
Yeah they're so loud I can hear them right now

>>26796872
Fairy type moves are one generation old though you fucking flid. Yuh patterns hold no weight here.

>>26796899
You are correct, but that could easily change with the next gen. I still partially agree with you, I think fairy is the most likely 2nd type. It's just very much not set in stone

>>26799417
Patterns are patterns until they are broken.

I'm sticking with Grass/Ground, Fire, and Water/Fighting until we get something more concrete.

Disarming Voice is one thing, but I don't trust moves that early stage(s) in starter lines get, since their real flavor doesn't really show until toward the end

Just look at Chesnaught and Greninja and when those lines got their secondary typing.

>>26799487
This.
Torchic doesn't get fighting moves
Mudkip doesn't get Ground moves
Tepig doesn't get fighting moves
Piplup doesn't get Steel moves

Let's just all calm down and remind ourselves that we know fucking nothing.

I hope Popplio doesn't end up looking girly. I'd prefer flamboyant, but not another Gardevoir

>>26799519
>Mudkip doesn't get Ground moves
Actually it gets Mud Slap but that's far from indicative of ground-type and it also randomly learns Rock Throw by level up too

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>>26799487

I'm with you on this one. I mean, not saying those types aren't far'fetched either, but jumping to conclusions over one move seems silly to say the least.

And honestly, after taking a good look at Popplio, something tells me that those white marks in his fins are going to be detrimental to his final evolution. Whether he's Fighting type or Fairy type, though, that's beyond me.

>>26799459
Patterns only become patterns with three instances.
You only have one so far.

>>26797227
(you)

>>26796897
Pichu evolves into a series mascot.
Riolu evolves into a series mascot.

Not evolving Riolu for a very long time makes it very angry so it learns Nasty Plot. Theyre also both Happiness evolutions with a high sp. attack stat when they evolve.

>>26796914
Or because seal barks are charming and adorable

>>26799542
>detrimental
A detriment is something that weakens or hinders something.
I think you mean theyre going determine its final evolution in some way, or influence it

>>26799587

kek, not sure how I ended up doing that. English ain't my mother language, so I still goof up every now and then.

>>26799543
But they listed heaps here >>26796937

The only current water pokemon they gave disarming voice is milotic. 98% of the others are psychic or fairy type and all are cutesy.

I hope poplio becomes part psychic honestly.

Everyone's gonna get btfo when Popplio ends up being pure Water type

>>26799617
>fairy has been in one generation so far
>HEAPS OF PATTERNS
Doesn't work like that anon, fairy moves have incredibly poor distribution as it is unless it was a move that was retyped into fairy.

You literally only have one set of to work on when you need two more to make a pattern. In other words wait for gen 8.

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>>26799659
>Everyone's face when that ends up being the likeliest case

>B-BUT I WAS SURE THAT IT WAS FAIRY TYPE

>>26799690

gen 5 was the last time we even had a single type starter

It's not farfetched

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>>26796647

>>26801158
You say that, but gens 4 and 6 are the only gens out of 6 that had all dual types.

>>26799690
You know no one is going to say they thought it was fairy. We'd say it was it was obviously going to be mono Water the whole time and anyone who thought otherwise was a fucking idiot.

>>26801226

Good point

Unless you count Mega's, Gen 3 is all dual types

>>26796872
>More than half the pokemon that learn disarming voice by level are fairy type

Nigga that was the very same argument used for Oshawott learning Revenge and therefore evolving into Water/Fighting

Don't dig yourself in that, you'll be sorry

>>26801362
That would come under gen 6

>>26801411
delete this
it should have been water/fighting
they have swordfighting legends in the same fucking gen

>>26801447
I feel you, anon. The worst part is that Masuda/Sugimori/whatever said they did that bait and switch on purpose.

How the FUCK do you decide to make a samurai not part-Fighting just to bait people jfc

>>26796626
Well popplio ain't gonna be Fighting.

>>26802043
Pure water seems likely.

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>>26796626
Let's learn about Learnsets and move distros.

This is part one of what learns Disarming Voice.

Now, using your critical thinking skills, because you have to have some considering you got past the CAPTCHA, tell me with your words what these pokemon have in common.

Regarding the Espurr line getting it, it's a reference to how Bakeneko, which that line is based on, have the ability to speak which freaks people out. (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakeneko)

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>>26802220
Now based on everything that we've seen, Popplio learning a move with a very, very, very narrow learnset distribution is not similar to Chespin learning Rollout, a move with a broad distribution.

>>26802239
>Popplio learning a move with a very, very, very narrow learnset distribution
You know you can't actually say this until Sun and Moon comes out and we see what they're change distribution wise right?

I mean, how many dark and steel moves were there in Gen 2 and how many pokemon actually had access to them?

>>26797238
The whismur line isn't particularly girly

>>26802280
There are over 720 pokemon as of Gen 6.

Why would they change it in gen 7 as opposed to back when they introduced the move?

Do you really think the 50 new pokemon are going to make a difference?

Seriously, you're even comparing an instance of 250 pokemon and the introduction of 2 new types to the introduction of one new type in a generation of 720 pokemon.

Other fairy moves don't matter.

All that matters is the distribution pattern or patterns for Disarming Voice. It's not even like this is a confusing and bewildering move to figure out, it's really fucking clear-cut. At this point you're just lying to yourself and sitting in denial that this is something that we have to wait for.

What's even dumber is that you don't even have the intelligence to argue that perhaps Popplio is an exception like Espurr because sea lions are yappy fuckers (to which I'd point out that neither the seel line nor the spheal line learn Disarming Voice), but you have to fall back on waiting for the next generation?

Face it, learning disarming voice points to fairy typing, or at the very least, a very, very, very, cutesy appearance.

>>26802282
Whismur is all about yelling and audio moves. Exploud looks like a speaker system. It's an exception that makes sense conceptually.

>>26802329
>Why would they change it in gen 7 as opposed to back when they introduced the move?
You do realise they do that literally every generation right?

Also you're making it way to easy to shut down your points.

>>26802220
>>26802239
Right, now look at how many lines learn Taunt by Level-Up prior to Chimchar.
http://www.serebii.net/attackdex-dp/taunt.shtml

Mudkip learns Rock Throw all of a sudden by Level-Up in ORAS. Look at how many lines outside of Rock do that.

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Does anyone remember when Fennekin was shown to be able to learn "Glow Punch"?
Everyone freaked the fuck out and were for sure that Fennekin was going to be yet another bipedal Fire/Fighting.
Then, others hypothesized that the starters were going to have a secondary matchup triangle with the most popular typings being Water/Psychic or Grass/Dark. Others thought that Froakie would become a frog on a froth cloud with a secondary flying typing, while Chespin would become more spherical and gain a rock typing.

Good times...

Can someone Litten-ify this?

>>26796937
Espurr isn't girly, and the male evolution of Espurr is not girly.

Exceptions can happen and happen quite frequently in pokemon. You are literally creating a

>muh patterns

argument for a move that has been around for one generation.

>>26802347
>you do realize they do that literally every generation right?
Like the starter signature moves that go to pokemon that fit conceptually?
Or they give it to the new pokemon.

Milotic learns it and it's in the egg groups Water 1 and Dragon. Whismur is in the Monster egg group. Pichu evolves into Pikachu which is in the Fairy and Egg group.

Based on this, you should be able to chain Disarming Voice throughout the Field, Monster, Water 1, Dragon, Fairy, Amorphous, and basically anything that has any kind of chaining potential from there.

>>26802355
http://www.serebii.net/attackdex-bw/taunt.shtml
And look at what changed from gen4 to gen5 by level-up? Nothing from old generations. The mons that did get it have conceptual background to do so, and it's not like the Fucking Monkey King who was a known prankster would be a stretch to learn it.

Also ground types learning Rock Throw is not a stretch at all.

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>>26797238
Reasonable post right here.

Right now we know Popplio has good defenses, incredible HP, terrible attack and speed and okay special attack.

High HP correlates with fat/goofy designs. Popplio looks goofy, especially if the clown motif continues.

Disarming voice indicates two things
>that Popplio will not become a menacing Ballio pokemon
>that Popplio may gain a fairy type, since there are few other mediocre fairy moves to give at early levels

We are guaranteed NOTHING from Popplio learning disarming voice, but we have a strong indication, from its stats and its movepool, that we're looking at a fat and innocent looking clown by stage 3.

>>26802417
>Like the starter signature moves that go to pokemon that fit conceptually?
No with literally every new move, more often than not they have a horrible distribution and with subsequent games they're expanded to others

>>26802437
>fat and innocent looking clown
>tfw no Pagliacci elephant seal

>>26802417
>And look at what changed from gen4 to gen5 by level-up? Nothing from old generations. The mons that did get it have conceptual background to do so, and it's not like the Fucking Monkey King who was a known prankster would be a stretch to learn it.

You're completely missing the point. You're using evidence from before the starter was released, and so am I.

Taunt came out in Gen 3. Disarming Voice came out in Gen 6. If we had seen Chimchar learn Taunt in a gameplay sneak peek, your logic of following the trend would suggest Chimchar is going to be Dark. Yet Gen 4 was when Taunt's distribution opened up. So take that and consider it with Gen 7 and Disarming Voice.

>Also ground types learning Rock Throw is not a stretch at all.

No that's VERY odd. The only lines to get Rock Throw that don't incorporate the Rock type are Conkeldurr's, which have pillars that probably act in lieu of actual rocks, and Lando-I, which has a special exception considering it's a Legend and Legendary learnsets are all over the place.

Out of curiosity, other than the fact it's been done to death, does the animosity toward Fire/Fighting starters have any other basis? I've never really cared for any of em, but I just wanted to know what the history was on that.

>>26802500
Nope it's just that.

>>26802454
Wait no anon that's an amazing idea
>Clown
>Opera
>Seal
What does these have in common? Fat people sterotypes!
Someone please make a fakemon of a Popplio evo with opera clothes and clown makeup.

>>26802491
Rock Throw was 5 generations later so that's not really valid as a comparison if it's really that odd.

Had I been as knowledgeable about distros then as I was now, and had I seen Chimchar using taunt in a gameplay sneak peek, I would make the same argument that I'm making now.

Chimchar would have been fire/dark or at the very least its concept would heavily involve some kind of prankster nature about it. I doubt I'd say Monkey King, but it would be the same assumption that people have now. So, using Chimchar as another example, at the very least, Popplio's evo is going to be cutesy and adorable.

>>26802520
Popplio has a very Italian-y sounding name, the design has a very traditional clown face, Pagliacci elephant seal with sad face but also an angry streak would be great.

>>26802538
>Rock Throw was 5 generations later so that's not really valid as a comparison if it's really that odd.
That's exactly what makes it odd, unlike your disarming voice theory there was an actual pattern to be had there.

>>26802538
The relevance of Rock Throw is that it's a move added to Mudkip during a much more current GF mentality, adding to the idea that Disarming Voice isn't any confirmation it's headed in a Fairy direction.

And yes, I'm simply pointing out the weakness in your argument regarding typing. I don't have a problem with moves of various types being given to the line for flavor, but when you say it's indicative or conclusive of a certain typing, that's nonsense on shaky ground trying to reassure itself the floor won't give.

The entire point of Disarming Voice is giving it to Fairy types by level up because no shit, it's the generation it is introduced and give you an idea on their move sets

They tend to be more flexible in later gens

Like how Charmander got Metal claw in Gen 3 but not on Gen 2, where it was locked into scizor prior to crystal

If Popplio does turns out to be fairy and girly,I will personally go to your house/apartment/basement and suck your dick

>people this asspained we're going to get a girly faggot starter
lol

We know bropplio is going to be bulky (high likely it will be fat) with high hp, shit att and speed and above average bulk/average special attack

it may have a singing theme and therefore learn disarming voice. It will probably learn moves like sing and perish song etc

>>26796937
I love how you purposely left out Granbull because

>Muh patterns

>>26799667
But what if we didn't?

>>26806288
What?

>people actually still believe rowlet is gonna be grass/ground when it's obvious that it's gonna be a grass/flying barn owl

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>>26806204
???

>>26806456
>disarm
What if they buff Disarming Voice to have a Knock Off effect in gen 7?

>>26796944
It's a bwarking seal that entertains. It fits

>>26806204
Maybe because Granbull doesn't fucking learn Disarming Voice.