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Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

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bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>New trailer for upcoming events, now in HD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeyVL5FCCM8

>Movie 19: Volcanion and the Ingenious Magearna [Jul 16th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/
NEW Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWtBDuxrcS0

Next episode:
>XY&Z030: Find Carbink! Goodra and Dedenne!! [Jun 9th]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_xyz/trailer/

Upcoming episodes:
>XY&Z031: Heatbursts at the Ingenuity Festival! [Jun 16th]
>XY&Z032: The Kalos League Begins! Mega Charizard Showdown: X VS Y!! [Jun 30th]
>XY&Z033: Mega Sceptile VS Raichu! I Received Some EXP!! [Jul 7th]

Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.

>Will Serena win da Ash?
It sure looks that way.

>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>26609688
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DP68 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_-_Diamond&Pearl_-_537_DP068_Tobari_Gym!_Lucario_VS_Buoysel!![H264_AC3_DVDSUB][45B4C903].mkv.torrent

PM43 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_-_043_-_March_of_the_Nassy_Squad![H264_SUB][508C19A9].mkv.torrent

XY&Z25 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_025_Satoshi_VS_Champion_Carne!_VS_Mega_Sirknight!![H264_720P][6F2FBDEF].mkv.torrent

XY&Z26 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=811007

XY&Z27 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=813168

XY&Z28 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=815088

XY&Z29 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=817145

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z30: FIND MELECIE! NUMELGON AND DEDENNE!! (JUNE 9TH)
>Satoshi reunites with Numelgon! But then a prankster of a Melecie shows up and goes wild. And as Satoshi and the others attempt to stop it, the Rocket Gang appear before them...!?

>Summary:
>As Satoshi and his friends head towards Miare City, where the Kalos League will be held, they drop by the wetlands where Numelgon lives. Satoshi and Numelgon are overjoyed at seeing each other again, but then trouble suddenly arrives!? Incredibly, a single Melecie appears to be going on a rampage in the wetlands. Satoshi and his friends attempt to stop the Melecie, but then the Rocket Gang show up in a giant mech!?

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Mayuki Makiguchi: Serena
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mariya Ise: Eureka
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Gekkouga
>Kiyotaka Furushima: Fiarrow
>Chinatsu Akasaki: Horubee
>Miyako Ito: Pumpjin
>Kenta Miyake: Maaiika
>Kensho Ono: Alan
>Yuka Terasaki: Corni
>Masaki Aizawa: Genzo
>Kensuke Sato: Lizardon
>Hitomi Nabatame: Florges
>Noriko Shitaya: Melecie
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration
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UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 36 (June 12th)

XY&Z031: Heatbursts at the Ingenuity Festival! (Jun 16th)
>Ash and his friends drop by the "Ingenuity Festival", an event where one can experience various ingenious devices created by masters in the field from all over Kalos. But as they enter, the devices immediately turn on, and Ash ends up getting separated from Pikachu and the other Pokémon.

XY&Z032: The Kalos League Begins! Mega Charizard Showdown: X VS Y!! (Jun 30th)
>The Kalos League finally begins! Can Ash and his Pokémon win their way through!?

XY&Z033: Mega Sceptile VS Raichu! I Received Some EXP!! (Jul 7th)

DREADREA (BY SERENA, CV MAYUKI MAKIGUCHI):
http://www.megafileupload.com/aynY/DreaDrea_(Serena,_CV_Mayuki_Makiguchi).aac

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA CHAPTER 1:
http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8
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>>26615100
>that scene where Goodra commands mons to use water gun
>Florges is a tsundere ojousama
It's the little things.
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Flying to the new thread.

>>26615121
He can't talk to characters that doesn't exist.
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>>26615121
Yeah Serena is gonna get the boot just like all the others, if it's not Luna then maybe the Big hat chick, but Serena's time is almost up.
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When can we expect subs?
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>>26615152
Eventually.
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>>26615157
>we'll be five episodes behind again
Sasuga PM.
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>>26615166
Unlikely.
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>watching the dub
>the ojou-sama laugh in ep 18 was actually pretty well done
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>>26615240
>watching the dub
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>>26615240
>watching the dub
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>>26615240
>watching the dub
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>>26615240
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So is Goodra legit back on board?
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>>26615262
We don't know, probably not. The two previews we've had so far didn't give us any hint.
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>>26615247
>>26615251
>>26615252
>>26615256
It's not bad, you autists
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Good morning /padt/, how are you doing today?
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>>26615272
>It's not bad
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Post best girl!
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>>26615290
Okay.
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>>26615272
>it's not bad
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>>26615272
I haven't watched the show in years. Is it not bad for a Pokemon anime series, or not bad as an anime series in general?
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SOON
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>>26615328
It's better than most currently airing series.
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>>26615362
Which to be honest, I'm not sure if that speaks well of Pokémon or bad about anime in general.
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>>26615369
Bit of both.
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>Ash kicking everyones ass with meme frog synchro
>About to beat alans charizard
>"ahhhhhhhhhhhh the strain is too much meme frog"
>"I'm sorry but I cant hold it any longer"
>*faints*
>greninja also passes out
>alan wins
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>>26615328
That guy was talking about the dub, which is absolute garbage.
The series itself is good, but avoid the dub at all costs.
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>>26615377
>>26611286
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>>26615166
>tfw never catching up
gave us hope just to stomp us again. This is how they get their sick kicks
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>>26615328
Kind of a difficult question. I almost never watch dubs unless they're exceptionally good and arguably better than the originals (baccano, space dandy, etc) and while pokemon obviously isn't nearly as good as those, it's not overwhelmingly shit like the average dub is.

I'm sure nostalgia is playing a large part in me liking the dub too, as well as the fact that it allows me to multi-task, because let's face it this isn't really a show that deserves 100% of your attention for the entire 20m length of an episode
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>5 episodes behind
>soon to 6
>most important part of the series

Don't care if its mid-way through but when its the end then its kinda shit.
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>>26615406

The at least one shitty sub on youtube that's current
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>>26615394
>one day the dub will catch up before lazy ass pm
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>>26615406
We're 4 episodes behind, and were 3 episodes behind until yesterday. Work on your math.
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>>26615397
>it's not overwhelmingly shit like the average dub is
It's pretty objectively one of the worst dubs produced the last decade, anon.
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>>26615416
>thinking shitsubs are better than raws
Don't.
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>>26615418
it will be a glorious day
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDaXh7Dd3gY

>mfw someone tries to tell me the dub is "good"
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>>26615397
>this isn't really a show that deserves 100% of your attention for the entire 20m length of an episode

I skip all the generic team stuff, if they do something different or interesting I watch it. I enjoy the episodes much more this way.
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>>26615444
And it's worse now than what it used to be some years ago when episodes took longer to air outside of Japan.
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>>26615460
>blast toys

everytime
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So I watched the Wulfric gym for the first time and all I have to say is: Was Tomioka drunk when writing this battle or something?

Ash: Greninja, use Aerial Ace!
Wulfric: ...casually let's his Abomasnow get beat up and tossed into the air without commanding a counter-move

Immediately after the above:
Ash: Greninja, use Water Shuriken!
Wulfric: ...doesn't do anything again, allows Abomasnow to take all the damage
Wulfric: Use Energy Ball
Ash: Immediately commands Cut to stop the Energy ball from being released

This happened multiple times throughout the battle, to both Avalugg and Abomasnow, and in the end it became incredibly distracting and really made the battle shit. Tomioka usually writes good battles but the script for this one was horrible since Wulfric rarely was allowed to counter attack.
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>>26615438
Oh come on, it's very clearly better than something like k-on or GuP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5bCVTUaFvk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnzS7rZ_t9Q
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>>26615480
>blast toys
>charred zars

>Manon sounding like an adult woman

so shit. my ears hurt. rather watch thee japanese.
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>>26615460
>The complete disonance between the original music and the dub music
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>>26615491
>was horrible since Wulfric rarely was allowed to counter attack.
What could he have done? "ABAMASNOW USE C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER"
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>>26615502
Holy shit that GuP one is awful kill me
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Dubs are bad becuase american "accents" are monotonous.
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>not watching the dub 90% of the time for maximum comfy, and switching to the sub for important battles
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>>26615568
alien music isn't comfy
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best girl´s united.
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>>26615568
>watching the dub
>ever

Fucking kill yourself.
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I feel like I could tolerate the dub if the pokemon themselves didn't sounded retarded as fuck. Have you niggas heard what Noivern sounds like, for example?
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>>26615568
>dub
>Comfy

Naisuh b8 m8
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>>26615601
no because i don't watch the dub
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>pikachu´s Pokeball

havent seen that one for a few decades.
wasnt there a little lightning bolt on top of it in EP. 1?
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>>26615631
filtered
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>>26615631
Yeah, I just assumed it was an oversight when I was watching the episode.
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>>26615631
Pretty sure the pokeball has showned up on other episodes without it.
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why doesn't ash "catch em' all" ?
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>>26615631
>>26615638
>>26615648
The lightning bolt was never seen outside of Episode 1.
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>Serena: Welcome back, person I admire so much.
>admire

The writers really don't want her to say "like" or "love" do they?
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>>26615690
Maybe she love him anymore...
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>>26615715
shutup paco
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>>26615631
The lightning bolt was a sticker.
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When pokemon gets darker and more mature themed Satoshi should grind up a a thunderstone and add it to pikachus food
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>>26615690
Can be translated as yearn or long for as well.
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>>26615746
it was way before the pokeball case sticker where introduced...
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Why do they change the music anyway?

>>26615753
That'd be really fucked up. He'd never do something like that unless pikachu really wanted it.

He already refused to evolve back when they were training to beat lt. surge's raichu
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>Ash is about to win the League
>nothing can stop him now
>it's happening for real, lads
>suddenly HAPPENING at the Rio olympics
>the League is called off
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>>26615793
Pikachu's refused to evolved twice, as there was the episode he faced Sho's Raichu and lost in DP.
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>>26615765
So? It's not like the idea of adding a sticker to a Pokéball would've been impossible to apply in the anime before the games did it.
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>>26615802
Unless the happening also affects the Japanese olympic team, no.
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>>26615631
It wasn't there in this episode when Ash is cuddling with his pokes in cold cave.

Also, who said he didn't move it to another ball.
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>>26615827
>moving a Pokemon from one ball to another would effectively count as releasing said Pokemon and having to re-catch it. If something like that was the case then the anime would definitely show it.
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>>26615866
Shit, didn't mean to green text it.
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>>26615866
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>>26615491
Maybe you should wait for subs before bitching about writing?
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>>26615664
It was never seen outside Oak's la in episode 1. Chances are it was a different Pokeball altogether, since he had empty balls with the three starters' name written on them in his lab too
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>>26615757
Why not just use like or love then?
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>>26616030
Because that wasn't the context.
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So what about Alan in Team Flare?
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I want to protect her.
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After the league when Alan helps Ash defeat Team Flare he (Alan) will travel with Serena so he can get his gym badges (he was given fakes by Team Flare to compete in the League) and will also support Serena in her tripokalons.

Ash leaves for alolel without Serena.
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>>26616033
Could have still used love. "Welcome back, the one I love so much."
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>>26616055
Shut up Greninja. We all do.
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>>26616072
Did you even watch any of 28 and 29 outside that one clip?
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What about Alan and Team flare?
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>>26616108
>>26616039
What about them?
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>>26616083
She wanted the old Ash back. She explains the good qualities about him in XY28. She loves him because of all those things, not just admires him. She could have used loves instead of admires. Not sure what's hard to understand here.
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what's gonna happen?
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>>26616130
Wait for subs, anon. You clearly did not understand the context of what was said.
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>>26616152
Explain it then. She talks about how "she looks up to him", and felt bad about yelling at him in the cave. The viewer knows it's more than that. Just because she said "she looks up to him" in a pervious episode doesn't mean she can't use different terminology in another episode to convey what she her romantic feelings for him.
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>>26616185
Because the scene was a callback to that. That's why the same words were used. Come on, this isn't complex.
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>>26616214
And the point I'm making is that everyone knows part of the reason she loves him is because she looks up to him. So using "love" shouldn't have been a problem. You're not really breaking any continuity by using it.
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>>26616151
With what?
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>>26616259
No, but you're breaking the point of using the same wording.
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I miss these two. More of them when?
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>>26616334
During the league.
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>>26616334
do you think the scientists have some lesbian orgy in their free time?
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>>26616360
Yes, it's full of hate-sex.
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tfw the dub is 9 episodes behind
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>>26616450
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tfw the dub is bad anyway
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Do you miss him padt?
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>>26616055
>her
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>>26615290
Okay
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>>26615765
>>26615746
>stickers on a pokeball
>pokeballs shrink and expand all the time
>this ruins the sticker
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>>26616334
Purpleflare best Flare.
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>>26616515
get that lewd butt out of here
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>>26616334
the green one looks like she's been huffing spraypaint
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>>26616533
Mah nigga
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>>26616494
I haven't had investment in any of the rivals since Gary.
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>>26615100
Did none of you faggots not notice that this is a troll thread? Or that the OP is fucked up?
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>>26616659
I don't care. Improve the next OP, etc.
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>>26616494
why would we miss him when we got Shota who is better in every way?
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>>26616659
We only care about keeping the amour part safe
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>>26616494
>When rivals felt like rivals.
I kinda do, most stuff happening in Kalos is all too friendly and doesn't give a feeling of competition.
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>>26616769
one party doesn't need to be a giant asshat to have a competitive rivalry
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>>26616659
Fucking hypocrites. But if you put the dub portion in there or leave the (embed), all hell breaks lose.

/padt/ is truly cancer.
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>>26616779
Gen II guy was edgy as fuck and I miss that
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>>26616835
Artist?
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>>26616779
generic friendly rivals like Shota and Tierno are fucking boring. the less of them the better
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it's the usual shitposters with the same words and topics, ignore and don't respond
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>>26616659
OP here, that was a copypaste error, actually.
Thanks for pointing it out, though
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>>26616659
What's wrong with it?
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>>26616933
CUTE
needs short hair
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>>26616933
Noice
Is there more of that
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>>26616938
The first chunk of the first paragraph in the first post didn't get included.
"Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate,"
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>>26616962
People actually read that?
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>>26616967
It took four hours for anyone to notice it was gone, so apparently not.
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>>26616976
It took me several weeks to notice that the "will Serena win da Ash" part was changed.
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>>26616962
It's not a big deal.
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>>26617154
No, but it's nice to have it pointed out so it can be corrected next thread
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>>26617154
Having the next dub episode in the OP isn't a big deal either.

I'll be sure to include it next OP then.
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>>26617191
you will fucking not
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>>26617203
Try me faggot. If no one had no problem with the opening statement about the thread being gone, no one should have a problem with the dub portion.

It's the anime discussion thread for a reason, faglord.
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>all this falseflagging
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Not excited at all for Alolel in the anime.

looks pretty stupid tbqh
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Really looking forward to seeing her in the anime.
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>>26617403
>Wanting her when there is superior Lillie and Serena.
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>there will never be a subplot as cute as Ash/Serena
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>>26617418
Don't waifu war at me, please.
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>yfw serena was a test
>the writers were slowly dropping hints to see how the viewers would react
>tfw lillie/luna will be the real cumslum gf for ash

glorious
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>>26617463

Won't help when half the viewers leave if Serena gets a bad ending.
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>>26617463
Mfw this comment is a bad bait
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>>26617391
>Using your hands to support yourself.
Western spy spotted.
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>>26617526
Yup, she heils hitler
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>>26617436
Then don't ask for mediocre characters to appear in the anime.
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I just want XYZ to end already so I don't have to watch stupid little blonde girl and her rat pokemon ever again.
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Serious question. What percent chance does Ash have at winning the league?
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>>26617546
50%.
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>>26617463
>Luna spends most of the series walking funny because of the nightly poundings
kek
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>>26617566
Yeah, Id say about 55-57% chance at taking this league down. The only good and final episode of B/W had a bit of a mini foreshadow. Even Ash himself said he wanted to win the league in the first episode of XY
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>>26616716
What in the flying fuck makes Shota better than Paul?
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>>26617546
0,1%

Expecting anything more is setting yourself up for disappointment.
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>>26617391
Found this on pixiv and it's from someone here in /vp/

I approve this lillie a slav meme
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>>26617613
He's not edgy.
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>>26617546
In terms of skill, Ash is 100% ready for the league

In terms of writers being assholes, 50%
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>>26617403
I'm looking forward to Ash or whatever protagonist we get to quarrel with the flying Rotomdex

Like Rotomdex is supposed to be the straightman but ends up causing the most trouble
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>>26617684
His team is shit and their movesets are shit

The only thing he has going for his is special meme frog which they will use their special meme power to save puni-chan from team flare meaning he cant use it anymore and lose.
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>>26617698
>Every single Pokedex entry mentions something about Indian elephants
>Ash's face when
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>>26617680
And? Nothing about Shota is better than Paul.
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>yfw Alan ntrs Satoshi and wins the Serenabowl
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>>26617675
Lillie a slavest
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>Yfw they reveal Ash can into Synchro Evolution because aura
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Subs are out

BASED fast subbers
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PUNICHAMON WARP DIGIVOLVE TOO
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>>26616835
Dawn looks so cute in that.
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cute frog
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>>26617945
cuter love
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>>26617705
He can use his other pokemon though
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PERFECTZYGARDEMON
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https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ
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>>26617822
Even better >>26617878
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>>26617905
>DP subs
FUCK

Well at least now they'll focus on XY&Z r-right?
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Long hair masterrace returning soon
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subs literally never
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>>26618149
I can see her pulling AK-47 on peepers.
Good Russian grills stay pure.
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>>26618149
Uh ohh...
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>>26618118
It's not even the same translator, you retard
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With all the shenanigans with Ash-Greninja, has no one even pondered the possibility that Alan may also try that shit out too when the inevitable final fight after Team Flame snackbars the league building happens?

>Ash vs. Alan 5: final destination
>Ash has 100% smogon froge bullying Mega Zard into looking like a chump
>right when it looks to be about over, Alan starts doing the same thing Ash does
>suddenly Mega Alan-Charizard X ready to go Sanic fast and go to town bullying Smogon Froge back
>Ash's face when this happens
>his face when no face
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>>26618201
The synchro mode is something innate in the frog. It's like asking Nardo to activate the Sharingan.
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>>26617705
this post is total nonsense

meme meme meme jesus
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>>26618201
>yfw artificial synchro created by Flare
>yfw corrupted Mega Charizard X happens because of this
>yfw Alan gets corrupted as well
>yfw Ash has to break Alan's fucking illusions
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>>26618149
Good, I don't want Luna with her short hair.
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>>26618271
>Ash won't impregnate this qt even though she wants it
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>>26618231
>implying Boruto won't name his son like his dad and since he'll inevitably fuck Sarada, said son named Naruto will have Rasengan, Byakugan, Sharingan and Tsunade strenght
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>>26618301
>Senju, Uchiha, Uzumaki, Hyuuga, Oototsuki ascendance

The only problem with Hiashi's eugenics is Pinkshit's genes being there.
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>>26616508
Yes.
Her.
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>>26618344
>Bulbapedo
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>>26618149
>Still thinking the slav has a chance
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Can't wait for both Lunafags and Lilliefags to get btfo as a gym leader takes their place instead.
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>>26618365
Those shorts have great potential for those animators.
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>>26618381
>yfw Brock returns yet again to travel with Ash somehow
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>>26618348
Bulbapedo is known for being absolutely bitchy and pickish when it comes to determining gender.
So if they say she is a she, then literally every single other relevant site had it stated as so for weeks, if not months.
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>>26618404
>yfw Brock marries Ash
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AWWW SHIT!!!

NEW EPISODE!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZuR56_PvLM
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>>26618443
>not having Ash say "go for broke"
DROPPED.

Or rather, does the dub even use that line at all?
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>>26618443
>watching the dub
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>>26618443
Why does the Japanese VA for Pierre sound more French than the English VA?
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>>26616835
Damn, May, Serena and Dawn together like that are like the holy trinity or something. I've probably fapped to these 3 more than any other pokegirls, with May the most since she came first.
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>>26618443
You know, I would perhaps watch the dub if CN didn't fucking air it in 6 in the morning on Saturdays!
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>>26618560
Maybe if they cared about it. They fucking prefer shit shows like Powershit girls.
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>>26618560
Makes you wonder if kids these days even watch Pokemon. I mean without the huge fad what kid is going to wake up that early to watch it?

Kids of today have no real reason to stick with Pokemon like our generation did.
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>>26618560
They're doing you a favor you know.
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>Ash
>Hau
>Lillie
>Rotomdex

Calling it now this will be the Alola party
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>I watch the dub
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>>26618627
A blonde girl who doesn't like battling and a guy who looks too similar to Shota in the anime? I seriously doubt it.
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>>26618443
Fuck off.
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>>26618443
>new
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>>26618632
>I care what version of a kid's cartoon other people watch
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My dad works at nintendo ash's party for Alola will be

>Ash
>Serena
>Rojo (black kid)
>Luna
>Rotomdex
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>>26618627
>Implying Lillie will even get close to traveling with da Ash

Literally the least chances of traveling with Ash.

Fem Protagonist > fem gym leader >>>>>>> kalos companion following Ash > lab assistant
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Best Male Companion: Brock
WOrst Male Companion: Max

Best Female Companion: Dawn(with May as an extremly close second).
Worst Female Companion: Iris

Prove me wrong bitches.
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>>26618724
Fuck off Dawn fag.
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>>26618724
It depends.

Which Brock are you referring to?
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Wait? The summer meme is real? damn...
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>>26618644
when are side characters battlers much. Its not like Brock or Cilan or Clemont do much battling, and Lillie would fill their role in a group. I mean ignoring Team Rocket or Flare what was the last battle Clemont even had?

Besides the last battle-focused female companion was Iris, and that went well didn't it

Hau as the comic relief
Lillie as the knowledgeable one
Rotomdex as a replacement for the 'kid' (Max/Bonnie)
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>>26618781
>I mean ignoring Team Rocket or Flare what was the last battle Clemont even had?
Luxray vs Greninja in XY&Z23.
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>>26618745
OG Brock.
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>>26618745
I don't think he's referring to Edo Tensei Brock.
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>>26618724
Dawn a best
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>>26618791
and he got his shit kicked in
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>>26618775
>Admitting it's your first summer here
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Why is so oblivious to sex?

You'd think with nips not wanting to fuck anymore that they'd try to push for it harder via media.

I hope in Alolel Satoshi lusts after some busty lesbian girl and bring Serena along for this weird love triangle.
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>>26618824
*Satoshi
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>>26618443
Man, I can't wait for Serena to win the Master Class
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>>26618820
It is last year I left padt in summer (Now I remember why)
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The love fans of the dub get reminds me of Winter in Siberea's Frozen Heart, my comrades
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>>26615129
Fly to my asshole you fucking prick
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>>26618724
I can't. You're pretty right. Although I wouldn't place May in second, perhaps third.
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>>26615502
Nope, TPCi dub is one of the worst dubs ever.
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>>26615272
>actually defending the dub
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>I've gone blind!
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>>26618824

Hey, guess what?

In harem animoos there's never any sex either.

You can't force the "procreate agenda" with 2Ds. It's been proven to backfire.
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>>26618443
>Smoker woman Ash
>Woman Serena
>Dat shit Bonnie voice
>Man Clemont
>Shit dialogue "eat before compete"
>Almost 90% of the Japanese music gone
>Shit intro

TPCi dub is god-awful shit, don't give us that shit here.
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>>26618516
The dub doesn't use it at all: it just has Ash go "A'course," "so psyched," "kay," and the like.

Then again Ash's voice in the dub has been shit since Season 9 so...

>>26618526
Dub Pierre also goes Allo all the fucking time.

>>26618620
Even CN know TPCi dub is shit.
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>>26615272
He have reached a whole new level of underage summerfaggotry
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>>26617225
Fuck the dub, hell no, don't.
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>>26615100
>[PM] is subbing XY&Z. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

my ass, you fucks used to do it so quickly
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>>26618972

>dat gif
Should I watch this? It reminds me of Doreamon.
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>>26619002
Better than watching one of the worst dubs ever made, the TPCi (aka Cathcart) dub.
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>>26619000
they are catching up
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>>26619002
Anon who posted .gif
Its supposed to be a followup to an anime from the Doraemon era (osomatsukun)
The show had me laughing so hard on so many ocassions. Please watch Osomatsusan and make yourself a better person
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>>26618936
otaku waifus need to remain pure or people might literally die
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>>26619028
Not really. I'll be surprised if they actually catch up mid-July after the second break.
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>>26619037
Shounen crap and merchandising tie-ins is a whole different ballgame though. Idols or other severe otakubait? no, sex is not gonna happen. In this case? Look at Chichi or Hinata, or that one thin lady from Shaman King. Kids could happen without rioting.
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>>26618950
>tfw the dub best voices in this has been all the other girl performers
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>>26617225
Kill yourself you fucking retarded cunt
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>>26618934
And then Ash still shits all over them.
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Did anything ever happen with the GS Ball? Ash deserved a Celebi. Give time travel to Ash.
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>>26618336
>le slightly edited luna copypasta
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>>26619126
Did Pikachu ever kill someone on accident? Like obviously not in the anime but I could see it happening in those edgier manga spinoffs
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Post rare Ashs
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>>26615100
>Goodra is cumming back and so is Goodrafag
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>>26619166
uncommon ash
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I wish I knew Japanese, I would have subbed that shit the day it came out for you anons.
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>>26618781
Lillie hates battling and she's helping a professor who studies Pokemon attacks. She's going to pull an N down the line in the games. Hau's the rival so he's pretty much out and the fem protag is pretty much Hilda supposedly, a supposed battler which is Ash's department.
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>>26618443
>watching the dub
>so much views and comments
whyyyyyyy?!
go watch the show in japanese, normiiies !!
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>>26619166
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>>26619166
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>>26619216
It wouldn't be the first time a character was severely warped in order to fit in their anime role. Serena/May/Dawn were a blank slate battlers too, and Misty was an out-and-out gym leader instead of the runt of the litter. Not saying it'll be Luna but I'm not discounting it

Lillie's not batshit enough to fill N's shoes
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>>26619141
It got delivered and Celebi became a movie Pokemon.
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>>26618679
>this is what dub watchers say to justify shit in their ears
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>>26619256
my six year old cousin heard me watching anime once, and when he heard a female character talk he asked me why an infant was screaming
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>>26615335
w2c ashes hoodie?
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>>26615335
ash should get a haircut
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>>26619205
Stop lying, anon
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>>26619000
It's been less than a week since their last XY&Z sub, stop being retarded.
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>>26619283
My three old cousin heard Ash's dub voice from season 1 and XYZ season: he asked me why the latter sounded like a woman.
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>>26619166
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>>26619247
Dawn and Serena didn't have the battler look and Misty was a runt of the litter but still treated as a gym leader (which made things worse for her).

Lillie's already batshit insane for doing something she hates anyway.

People immediately jump to "not gonna happen" but really, I can see them just using Serena to replace Luna just like they replace the guy with Ash.
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>>26619166
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>>26619221
There's autism in this fanbase: the Pokemon dub has been utter shit since Season 9, aka when TPCi got the rights, that's all you need to know. Cathcart and his crew assfucked it.
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>>26619356
Even OG dub Ash sounded like a chick. Like not Naruto-tier fat girl gargling straight razors but you could tell it was a lady even if they did a pretty good job of it.

>>26619358
>Lillie's already batshit insane for doing something she hates anyway.
no man that just sounds like a lot of people with jobs or commitments, not crazies
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>>26619105
>tfw that's sadly true because the TPCi dub is such shit
>tfw at least head cold James and rhyming/alliterating TR wasn't in this, and the dub is still utter shit
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>>26619378
She's helping for "personal reasons". She's going to pull a crazy like N. I would have said Zinnia but I don't think anyone wants a Zinnia again.
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>>26619358
They haven't done a waifu carryover since Filler Islands or Gen II though, and even then in the latter only because there wasn't Crystal at the time they cooked it up. How hard does Japan love the Serena?
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>mfw in my dub Ash is at least voiced by a man
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>>26619417
which dub
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>>26619417
Do they sound older than ten years old
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>>26619411
She's the most popular female lead so far by an enormously long shot.
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>CN literally does not invest (in any sorts) to it's Pokemon dub
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>>26619433
I dunno what the fuck that is but it looks too much like a person
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>>26619166
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>>26619378
4Kids dub Ash sounded like a boy once she settled in, it only took her like 15 episodes, but your description of TPCi dub Ash being Naruto-tier fat girl gargling straight razors is pretty accurate.

Don't get me started on TPCi's Team Rocket: fucking terrible. That old man with cold James being the worst of the group, what the fuck were they thinking?
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>>26619358
>>26619447

Serena for another 100+ episodes? That is fucking boring.

(also Dawn was as popular as Serena and that didn't help)
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>>26619411
They did have a Crystal look alike in the beginning of Gen II, they just had her as a recurring character instead. As for Japan liking Serena, pretty up there.
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>>26619484
that's some QUALITY art
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>>26619166
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What will Shota's last Pokemon be?
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>>26619452
Can you blame CN with the cancer that is the TPCi dub? I'd fucking scrap over half the staff, Goldfarb/shitty dub music composer included, before I'd let that shit air on my station.
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>>26619447
Serena's among the least popular, anon. Both May and Dawn beat her in that regard.
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>>26619490
James hasn't sounded good since 2001. It's really quite a shame
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>>26619500
Well we had Ash for 925+ by now
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>>26619506
You mean Casey? I guess they had similar hair
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>>26619540
I think James sounded good in 2002-2003. Around 2003 is when his dub voice got worse, 2006 is when it got bad (Cathcart), and 2010 is when it became intolerable.

Jessie and Meowth's dub voices haven't been good since 2006, though, same with Ash.
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>>26619500
At this point I'd say Serena's been more popular than Dawn has.
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>>26619528
Merchandise says different..
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>>26619528
He said Japan, not Serebii/Bulbapedo.
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>>26619428
Knock yourself out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L5x0NyWcrE

This would be legitimately decent if it wasn't irredimably polluted by carryovers from the US dub like the script, the music and the Pokémon voices.
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>>26619565
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>>26619567
Serena is the current female lead, so of course she will have more merchandise available right now. That will quickly change come november.
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>>26619588
DONT DELETE THIS
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is there anything else in the series as hilariously dark as the prologue to the first movie because holy shit
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>>26618724
>Best Male Companion: Clemont
Fixed that for you.
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>>26619599
Are you retarded? He obviously meant merchandise released when the character was current. None of the other girls got anywhere near the the kind of outside-the-anime promotion Serena got.
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>>26619577
>This would be legitimately decent if it wasn't irredimably polluted by carryovers from the US dub like the script, the music and the Pokémon voices.
same happened with the latino dub, that dub was top tier, but everything changed when they replaced ash's voice, then bw came and everything went to fucking shit
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>>26619626
>Clemont over Brocko
are you insane
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>>26619631
In the Italian dub Ash still has the same voice from day one, but there's no getting around TPCi's shit.
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>>26619652
again, same with team rocket, they have the same actors since day 1, but tpci completely raped their characters, especially since they were funny as fuck in the latino dub especially jamememes
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>>26619599
Iris didn't get merchandise when she was the current lead other than a SD figure and all May got was a small figure for the Manaphy movie.

Current lead has nothing to do with it.
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>yfw You're trying to catch Pikachu, but PTSD induced flashbacks from Vietnam keep happenin.
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>>26619648
No
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>>26619674
Do the human characters ever get a significant amount of merch

>>26619685
I don't understand why these guys haven't killed themselves or defected to the white hats already
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>>26619607
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>>26615601
Have you heard Goodra and Hoopa? That's cancer.

I can't stand the dub regardless thanks to those shit Ash and Team Rocket voices and that awful music replacement (as well as TR's dialogue in general).
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>>26619695
Yes.
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>>26619695
Serena is the first character to get a notable amount of merchandise apart from Ash.
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>>26619627
>ignoring the fact that the marketing of the pokemon anime as a whole has been on a steady increase

Serena having more figures out right now means nothing. Times change.
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>>26619484
That's very rare

>>26619588
Blue shipping :^)
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>>26619670
Am I to understand TPCi have ruined the English, Latin American, Italian, and French dubs with their awful script, music changes, and terrible Pokemon voices?
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>>26619695
>I don't understand why these guys haven't killed themselves or defected to the white hats already
After Pikachu lost to a brand-new-out-of-the-box Snivy, I really think they should have sat down and rethink their long term goals.
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>>26619733
yep
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>>26619710
>ash could be sleeping with his waifu
>instead
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>>26619744
Pikachu's gone toe-to-toe with legendaries and shit like championship-quality dragonites, I swear to god the thing must have some kind of medical problem that just cripples it for months at a time
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>>26619750
His true feelings for Gekkouga hadn't sunk in yet by that episode.
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>>26619764
he can even say "in that case, you can go fuck yourself" while being youthful and earnest
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>>26619750
>implying Ash doesn't dream of Serena's Pokepuffs
>implying Clemont doesn't try drowning out the sound and pretend Ash groping for them is just a dream
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>>26619750
>not wanting to sleep with your brofu

What are you, gay?
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>>26619674
We need an AG May figure, NOW.
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>>26619565
>Millefeui in charge of not having selective hearing
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>>26619750
why would he? he's not interested in Serena. he hasn't blushed at her even once.
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>>26619716
It's not just figures because even Bonnie's gotten stuff, N got two figures and they had nendoroids of other BW characters.
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>>26619750
>Ash and Serena won't ever share a tent

Why live?
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>>26619796
i mean you want to cuddle up with men, that's your prerogative, not even judging ash for that

but >>26619794 serena's probably tugging at air in the general location of bonnie's crotch and you know there's an easily solved mismatch there

>>26619806
i dunno lemme ship
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>>26619806
>implying he isn't
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>>26619805
Why'd you delete your post, you failure?
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>>26619809
Why share a tent when they can share hotel rooms he pays for?
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>>26619818
>Ash and Serena end up sharing a tent
>they're both known for gesturing and moving in their sleep
>they both end up stripping each other in their sleep
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Oh shit it just hit me.
>Team Rocket is investigating TF.
>yfw hey steal some of their research/power gained from Bluni-chan and put it to their own use.
>yfw Perfect Zygarde vs Perfect Zygarde vs Ultra Ultra Giga Giga Meowth-Meowth.
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>>26619805
>that brief moment where Millefeui's eyes shine when she thinks she won da Ash

It's the little things.
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>>26619829
Because I felt like an idiot after I saw that that line was actually in there. I had assumed that that anon edited the subs.
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>>26619806
m8, he's shown interest in Serena a lot of times and they do it with the itches rather than blushing.
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>>26619862
it's fucking real?

i thought it was a joke like that screencap of serena stripping in ash's tent
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Guys. You know how Serena is supposed to be Ash's childhood friend? What if Serena is one of Gary Oak's family members? Wouldn't Gary want to go to Kalos to take Serena back and cuck Ash away from her?
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>>26619873
The webm has the real subs. The png I was responding to had a line taken out of context.
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>>26619873
Why wouldn't it be real?
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>>26619806
ash hasn't blushed at a woman since kanto's giselle

i mean you might be right, but i think the boy just doesn't fluster regardless of the situation
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>>26619873
What's real?
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>>26619873
>not watching the Master Class episodes
What the hell are you doing, anon?
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>>26619892
it's violently tactless

so in retrospect yeah i dunno why i thought it was fake
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>>26619894
Oh, he flusters.
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>>26619809
But they already shared a tent, on the same episode where that image is originally from.
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>>26619906
He's just being honest.
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>>26619891
So did the screencap? You got triggered over nothing.
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>>26619847
Yeah, we practically guessed that one back then. Hope it comes to pass even if it gets rekt after immediately entering battle.
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>>26619907
Ash likes his food a lot more than he likes his woman, this isn't news.
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>>26619845
>Ash and Serena sleep fuck, but neither of them finish
>they wake up to find Ash still inside of her
>they very carefully try to slip him out without any sudden movements that might push either of them over the edge
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>>26619886
>Gary
Gary was shown to pussy out.
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>>26619894
You know the Giselle thing was an oddity because even Brock was doing it, right?
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>>26619886
Gary's a pussy anon.
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>>26619905
I've been catching up on the video games and shitposting about stuff in the anime from forever ago

besides that i just skipped ahead to ash getting wrecked in the kalos ice gym versus that really flat pokemon. i stopped a while ago after johto so i'm trying to muster the motivation to go play catchup with like 700 episodes of cheap anime

>>26619919
were the bedrolls touching

>>26619964
brock's always hot on ladies though
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Can't wait for when the shipping meme ends this season
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>>26619983
Giselle wasn't said ladies, she was a regular girl.
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>>26619983
Don't watch the dub past AG, word of advice, your ears will thank you.
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I want to watch the snowbelle gym fights, which episodes are those?
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>>26619983
All the Millefeui episodes are must watch episodes anon.
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>>26620000
>meme
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>>26619166
Devious Ash
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>>26620019
27 and 29, though they're not subbed yet. Hopefully soon.
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>>26619886
Mewtwo reduced this poor fuck to a shell of his former self. Super raw deal compared to RBY's Blue, even moreso than Ash vs Red.

It's Ash who was destined to steal the thing Gary wanted practically at the altar, not the other way around. Luckily it never came to that.

>>26620013
Giselle was a fucking hot schoolgirl I think Brock would be all over that. Certainly more attractive than a Joy or Jenny.
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>>26619941
He's only gotten like that with Serena's food.

Why wouldn't you eat your waifu's homemade Pokemon food?
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>>26619894
At least Ash has good taste, I guess.
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>>26620063
since when does ash eat basically dogfood
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>>26620045
Oh ok, that makes a lot of sense. I only watched the start of XY when it was subbed quicker.
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>>26619166
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>>26620088
since it's fucking good, man.
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>>26619964
Giselle is on an entirely different level compared to Serena in terms of hotness. That's why Ash blushed at her. Ash simply doesn't find Serena attractive.
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>>26620081
God bless filler waifu. As far as random girls Ash probably doesn't remember that he accidentally gave paradigm-shifting life lessons too, I'd argue Giselle might have been more impacted than Serena. She went from a giant cunt to adorable

>>26620121
There have been hotter girls than Giselle since and he didn't react to them either. There's some K1/Belldandy style shit going on, something's destroyed Ash's libido.
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>>26620091
Whatever you do, avoid the dub.

>>26620099
Ash is flaming alright.
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>>26620091
It's subbed at the same pace as back then, they just fell behind a month a while ago. We've gotten 3 episodes the last two weeks, so they're working on catching up.
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>>26620000
>he thinks people won't ship Ash with the Gen VII girl

full retard, what a waste of quads

To be expected of a Lunashitter
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>>26620236
Ash should be joined by both grills.
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>>26620250
Can you imagine the hell these threads will become

Fullblown /a/-tier waifuwars
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>there was AshxLuna fanart faster than the usual protagxprotag

How does this make you feel?
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>>26620273
Plot twist: neither are Ashsexual.
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>>26620282
luna's cute

can't wait for the bad fanfiction
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>>26620250
>not having Luna, Lillie and Serena in one group

I want the shipping wars to go nuclear.
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>>26620282
I like Ash and Luna much more. They seem like they would have much more chemistry. That is when we learn more about her
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>>26620299
neither were may or dawn and that didn't stop people
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>>26620299
That doesn't stop shippers
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When was Serena revealed for the XY anime and when was it revealed that she had a crush on Ash, and how did people react?
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The Volcanion movie is set after the Kalos league right?

If not, then how the fuck can Zygarde go 100% in the movie if Bluni-chan is still captured by Lysandre?
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>>26620326
shippers were starving for love before

now that ash has had an actual (onesided?) romantic interest and it's gone over well, even if they do switch to a new waifu i doubt they'll drop the dynamic

if the games ever incorporate dating sim crap in the mainline games then it will all go to hell, more than this digimon tamers synchro shit
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>>26620282
To be fair, both Sun and Moon protagonists are the blandest designs I have yet to encounter, near harem protag levels of blandness.

It would not be unusual for people to ship Ash first before they ship each other. Besides, Ash is super hot this season.
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>>26620250
No, he only should have one good girl around him. Luna is not that girl.
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>>26620372
Good question, but who knows if Puni-chan will still be alive/travelling with Bonnie after the league/TF conclusion? Maybe in actuality one core can go 100% by itself by absorbing enough/all of the cells, and the other core won't be able to morph due to lack of cells while that happens. That way the percentage would still make sense.
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>>26620273
These threads won't be what they are now. They'll probably return to being hype threads.
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Is there a way to make Memes Mega Evolve?
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>>26620365
I think, nobody actually knew until the show aired, there was this concert/event with the singer of Volt, and there was a screenshot of the infamous Ash and Serena meeting from episode 7 where he helps her injured leg, and people started speculating.
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>>26620372
The movie premieres between episode 33 and 34, so chances are it's meant to take place before the league, not after.
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>>26620435
They had already revealed that "Serena had met Ash in the past", so people were speculating before that.
The official poster also showed her blushing while looking at him.
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>>26620462
>osananajimi
i hope the next one is a first cousin, or maybe a blood-related half-sister sister via his absentee father
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>>26620420
I can't remember if Puni-chan could be seen in the short movie trailers anywhere, other than in 100% form.

>>26620444
The movie doesn't come to Japanese cinema's until July 16th anon.
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>>26615272
It's not bad: it's horrendous.
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>>26620494
And XY&Z33 airs July 7th. What's your point?
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>>26620494
>I can't remember if Puni-chan could be seen in the short movie trailers anywhere
It could.
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>>26620494
>I can't remember if Puni-chan could be seen in the short movie trailers anywhere, other than in 100% form.
It's in Bonnie's pochette as always.
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I love 4chan's mysterious fuck-ups.
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>>26620531
Jesus fuck, I forgot we have seperate 2 breaks coming up in-between episodes.

>>26620571
>>26620574
Well that settles that, however seeing as this takes place before the Kalos League, makes me wonder what's happening with Bluni-chan.
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>>26620587
The week the movie premieres is ALWAYS a movie premiere special.
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>>26620571
>"i wish those were my arms, ash so thick
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>>26620613
i didn't realize until now that pikachu had beefier arms than ash
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>>26620587
Option 1: Bluni-chan is unnecessary for Puni-chan to reach 100% form and this is reflected in the movie.

Option 2: Bluni-chan is necessary in the series but the movie will ignore this.

Option 3: the movie will go as far as ignoring Bluni-chan has been captured and have it show up when 100% form needs to happen. This would immediately contradict the series since complete Ash Greninja is in the movie and Bluni-chan was captured by TF 14 episodes before that happened.

Either way, the mere presence of Perfect Zygarde in a movie set before the league/TF climax will make the canonicity of the movie dubious unless Ash and the others don't see it, because they'll undoubtedly be shocked when they see Perfect Zygarde in the main anime.
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>>26620690
It's written by Tomioka, anon. He'll make sure shit makes sense.
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>>26620088
>not eating your waifu's dog food
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>>26620282
>there was only one piece of art from an artist that drew Ash and Serena afterwards
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>>26619714
Dawn got a Japanese figure back in 2007 (which was the first full year of DP) back when merchandize for Pokemon anime characters was rare outside of the early OS days. So its not unique to Serena.

I can only imagine the reason May didn't get a figure in the AG era is because back then the original fad of pokemon was cooling off from Gens 1-2 and less merch based on the anime was produced. Which is odd in retrospect because AG was the most watched or viewed series after the OS.
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>>26620862
Fuck off, Scott.
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>>26620862
Anime characters had figures even back in OS. They were mainly Ash Scott.
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>>26620121
Anon, the episode was back when they had no idea what they were going to do with the anime. Even Brock was doing it and it's known he hits on older women.
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>>26620900
Yes, but that was because the anime was brand new back then and the fad of Pokemon was huge. Of course Ash/Misty/Brock were all going to get toys back in 1998-1999.

Merch for the anime trickled off during Johto and this continued throughout AG. That's why I said May probably didn't get any figure when it was airing. During Gen III in general GameFreak said they were worried that Pokemon's popularity was dwindling because it came directly after the fad era of pokemon.

By the time DP began everyone realized Pokemon was an evergreen property and would go on forever, so by that point they were no longer worried about less sales/merch from the Gen 1 days.
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>>26620945
Fuck off, Scott.
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>>26619358
The games seem incapable of making a sidequest that sticks like Contests did. The Pokeathlon from HGSS and the Musicals/Pokewood from BW were all dropped.

Even Contests were axed for two gens in a row (BW and XY) till ORAS brought them back.
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>>26619528
Serena is incredibly popular in Japan, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

If you're referring to the west, I don't think the target demographic cares very much for the anime anymore in America, so I don't actually think it matters if Serena is popular. She just has to not be hated by the children who watch the show every now and then, and it's good enough. No clue about Europe or South America though.
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>>26621144
The anime lost popularity in the west after 4kids stopped dubbing the anime. It still did decently throughout the DP era but after that nothing.

A large chunk of the anime's popularity in the U.S. is nostalgia for the original trio and the 4kids dub voices. Hoenn being dubbed by 4kids probably helped.
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>ash hasn't gotten to record a party in the kanto hall of fame yet
toss the boy a bone

why do they figure the kids watching this want to see the audience surrogate beaten and humbled over and over again? it's not like in the video game the story makes you lose by default before getting a decisive victory then tells you to fuck off and buy the next game so if there's some moral to the story i'm not getting i dunno what it is
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New:
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>>26621302
>>26621302
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>>26621263
No matter how hard and often you try, you will never succeed.
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>>26620945
It was still there during Johto Scott. You're just a retard.
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