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The current leak lord and saviors have come for our offerings this night.
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Just stop tempting me with these. I know they're fake and I cry every time.
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I offer myself to Ballio Jr.

May he juggle my balls tenaciously, yet gracefully.
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Rowlet>Litten=Popplio
Rapthug>Jestlio>Tabburn
Ballio>Owltair=Blackpanther
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>>26497353
I'd be satisfied with these. Bretty gud. Way better than the Gen 6 shit.
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the middle stage of litten looks 1000x better as a final stage than the actual final stage
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>>26497408
Those names, ew.
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>>26497441
actually now that i look closer all three middle stages are superior
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>>26497441
>>26497451
this
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I don't really like them that much, but at the same time wouldn't really mind anyway.
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Litten's middle evo is the only thing I like in this picture
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>>26497461
BLASFEEMER!
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>>26497469
this
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Fuck you guys, this things are pro af.
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>>26497353
>the middle panther
10/10 would train
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Art style between the middle and last stages are different. Obviously done by a different artist.
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>>26497353
The last evo for Popplio is creepy af. I want it. And yet I know they are fake.
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Such perfect starters
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>>26497353
I think they are real and I really, really like them.
Now call me stupid for having a non-mainstream opinion which very well might be proven wrong in a couple of weeks/ months :^)
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>tfw im one of the few who actually likes littens final evo
its just so sleek and simple
it has 3 colors and its tail is on fire. nothing simpler than that
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>>26497353
Neagh, Owl Capone isn't going to be some feather thrown ninja; Ya See.
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>>26498020
I'm with you bruv.
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>>26497353
How did Litten get buff and then get slim all of a sudden?
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>>26498036
its his "winter coat" -In a tropical Island, i know.
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>>26497353
Hi Timmy.
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>>26497353
It molted. Litten's dex entry mentions something along the lines of it burning off it's fur in a blaze when it's time to molt. My guess is that 2nd evo isn't bulky, it's just unkempt and said fur burns off by final evo
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I actually don't mind threads about these guys, they're well done and interesting compared to the others.

There's a reason why they are the strongest growing starter evos right now.
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>>26497408
stop shilling your horrible names Rapthugfag
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>>26498029
He already throws feathers in his official art, you fucking idiot
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>>26497353
Friendly reminder that the final forms of Rowlett And Popplio are both nightmare fuel if these were actually real.
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fuck that shitty assassin's creed owl
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>>26497353
>gets super fluffy kind of looks like a tigers/lion
>than losses it all becoming a panther
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STILL REAL TO ME DAMMIT!
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>>26498524
Those are him just pulling out feathers and hiding, to throw the feds off his trail.
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>>26497353
Litten's final evo is literally its second stage but bigger
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>>26498546
Rowlet's final form is probably the "coolest" of all the starters ever made, probably even more than Charizard.
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>>26499217
So? Look at the a lot of previous gen starters. It's the middle form but larger and its trait being developed.
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>>26497353
please be real

If these are fake I am convinced whatever GF throws out will be a disappointment in comparison
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I don't hate them so they're fake.
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>>26498036
Cause its fake?
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>>26497353
>these will never be real
>gamefreak will instead release steaming turds, once again
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>>26499941
They've been doing it for 6 generations so far. Why break tradition?
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>>26499661
This. Remember rule #1, everyone. Are they remotely good looking? If so, they're fake.

Move along.
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<3
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>>26499564

That's the opposite of what we see here.

Litten's middle evo developed a shaggy main and a lot of muscle. So naturally the final stage would have MORE mane and MORE muscle. But it loses those two traits to become sleek and without a mane. That's why they're fake. That's never happened in any starter evolutionary line.

The one shown as the final form would make sense as the middle stage and the bulky thing with a mane should be the final stage if these weren't fake.
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>>26497353
How the fuck do you go from buff lion thing to panther.

How does this add up.
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>>26500228
>Wartortle's ear wings and fluffy tail
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Litten's mid evo isn't that bulky. It's got excess fur around it's head/neck/front legs, which, as has been stated multiple times, will burn off when the cat molts. It's hind legs and such really aren't much bulkier than the final evo's.
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>>26500140
How dare you make me enjoy this creature.
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>>26500140
I love this so much. When I see Ballio, I don't see some scary clown. I see a big Pokemon that just wants to play around.
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>>26500140
This makes me sad that he won't be real.
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Alright, whenever I see leaks, I don't automatically assume they're fake or real and get attached, I just stay open minded. But these though. There's just something about these ones that I really like. I'm now hoping these are real.
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>>26497408
>Blackpanther
I give this a "did you even try/10"
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>>26500228

Greninja loses the bubbles
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>>26500377
>Talonflame
>somebody decided this was okay
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>>26497353
What the fuck happened to popplio
Did he get bullied that much?
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>>26497353
Can't wait for Ash-Owltair.
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>"Froakie's final form will definitely have bubbles everywhere, and not a tongue-scarf!"
>Servine's legs are longer than Snivy's yet, wouldn't you know it, Serperior has none at all
>Wartortle has fluffy tail and weird fluffy ears, Blastoise has neither, and suddenly sprouts cannons from it's shell
>badass samurai otter becomes bizarre quadrupedal ocean/unicorn/daimyo thing


Not saying these are real, but Litten's middle evo being bulkier than the final is not going to debunk this.
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>>26497441
>It's chunkier therefore stronger looking
Its fur is malting.
It's just a fat teenager, why are people not getting this?
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>>26498020
I'd like it to have just a little more detail. Maybe flaming fangs.
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>>26499551
Rowlet's final form is too serious for a Pokemon design. It lacks that "lovable" look all Pokemon have.
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>>26500228
>Wartortole's ears and tail
>Croconaw's caveman theme
>Servine's legs
>Pignite's wrestler theme
>Dewott is general
>Frogadier's bubbles

I think these are fake and have since day one, but use better reasoning that this.
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>>26500528
Delphox was pure digimon-tier furshit, not even lovable
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>>26500528
Inb4 it can remove its hood, blushes and does pokemon happy pupil expressions.
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>>26500531
Wartortle is the pinnacle of the aimless art direction Pokémon had when it was first starting out. We've come a long way since then design-wise.

Emboar is based on a gladiator.

The Snivy line is based on how snakes lost their limbs overtime.

All the leaks that turned out to be true were made when the games were about to come out. It's far too early to defend this.

The recent trend of starter pokémon is to add more, and if something is lost over time it's just one minor thing.
>Litten's evo loses the mane
>Loses the bulky arms
>Gains two ring markings on its back and loses one on its hind legs
>Loses the red muzzle

It's fucking fake guys. Come on.
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>>26500140
looks like that on guy from one piece
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>>26497353
There's no way these are real. They're too good to be modern Pokemon designs.
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>they're all dark types amazing spiderman nufin personel edge digimon

I wouldnt be surprised.
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Please stop.

These fakes are so good, I doubt the real designs even compare. It hurts.
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>>26497353
Litten proves these are fakes;
>The pattern on it's head changes from two horizontal, one vertical to one horizontal, two vertical, to one horizontal, one vertical
>Middling length hair to bushy as fuck to short hair
>Tail has no stripes then two then none
>Overall shape: he bulks out in the middle for no reason - look at those forearms and legs
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It's not real because their color schemes don't change, even fucking bulbasaur changes a little in skin color when it evolves, change the palettes a little and I'd be convinced and it might be enough aesthetic detail to make it really interesting.
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Ok so am I really the only one who thinks these are garbage? Rowlet and Popplio's final evos look absolutely ridiculous for a pokemon and Litten's line doesn't have logical flow. If these are real I will be sorely dissapoint
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>>26501045
Yes. Most pokemon have looked like shit for almost decade so this is a fucking breath of fresh air
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>>26501069
I guess to me it just feels like a step in the wrong direction. It seems like the most successful designs to me kind of combine that charm while still doing something unique... these just feel edgy to me, but my opinion seems to be the minority. I guess I'm just jaded or something idk
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>>26501081
I've noticed that a lot of hugboxers who like the animu style of the recent games are getting frothing mad at this.

These are clearly way closer to the Gen 1 designs than we've had in a long time.

>edgy
You need to stop using words you don't understand.
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>>26501117
man it's almost like that's subjective or something.
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>Ballio loses his snout to become a literal guy with a clown nose
But why, he's supposed to be a sea lion, where's the fucking snout.
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At least roothoot isn't anywhere to be seen.
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>>26501137
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>>26501137
May be it has a tiny snout
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>>26498692
>What is Ampharos
Not saying they're real but Ampharos goes through the same exact process.
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Ever notice how none of these fake final evos ever look like final evos?

I dont know what it is exactly. Maybe it's that they're too small, maybe they just dont have enough going on but they all just look like second stages or second stages and half.
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>>26501163
To be fair, that line is like a sheep getting sheared, although there's no reason something like >>26498062 wouldn't be the case for litten too
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>>26501175
That's what I was going for in my reply (>>26501163), but instead of it being sheared, it molts its excess fur off.
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>>26501184
oh gotcha, I can't into reading comprehension right now
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>>26501195
It's all good. It was my bad for >implying they were the same things in my reply when really they're just similar.
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>>26501150

I get angry every time.
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>>26501117
>These are clearly way closer to the Gen 1 designs than we've had in a long time.
You're fucking mental mate.
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>>26497353
Why would the cat grow a mane and then lose it in the final stage?

Shit design.

Also why grow bigger then leaner?
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>>26500140

God bless the one who made this comic.

And yeah, I really see him as nothing more than a pokemon that may seem threatening, but is actually fucking amazing to hang around with and playful as fuck, which is why I've grown used to the big guy.

Just picturing this fellow doing sea lion like tricks and acting goofy just makes me want him to be real even more.
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>>26501150
i'm still mad
we could have had a Water samurai, maybe water fighting,; but a bulky physical attacker who could take a hit
reality sucks man


popplios evos suck though
give me more circus dog, not ugly clown man, fuck that shit
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>>26501430the cat does not grow a mane

it shed all its fur except on the area around its neck and face.

On its final stage it sheds the last of its fur and becomes that black hairless cat
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>>26501430
Litten is a cat with a fuse. Second evo is lit and "exploding." Third evo is having fired off and extended into a lion

It's a damned good design, but the art is too good for the franchise. They wouldn't draw realistic flames. They'd look all cartoony.
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>>26501477
Then the first stage should be a huge ball of fur.

You can't go slim fur > Lost THICK fur except on his body > slim fur

You need to show the cat getting the thick fur if you want your reasoning to work.


>>26501494

In your case then you'd have to shorten his tail or move the flame down. You can't just tell me it's a bomb just because it's tail is on fire.

Otherwise charmander is also a bomb and the design is shit.
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>>26497353
>there are people who unironically think these shitty fakemon are real despite the starters being revealed 2 fucking weeks ago and leaks never happening this soon
>>>/r/eddit
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>>26498036
Cartoon bomb > Cartoon explosion > Cartoon cannon.
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>>26501137

It might be the angle and he might still have a snout of some sort, just not as noticeable as his former stages.
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>>26497353
Not this shit again. Cmon. You know you're only getting your hopes down, right?
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>>26500228
It's not muscle, it's hair, check his back legs, the bulk on his front legs/body is fur.
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>>26497353
Why does Litten's evo have LESS detail than it's base form? That's not how middle evolutions work!

(That's still aside from that Rowlet's final evo doesn't look like it's flying, and GameFreak are not going to make a scary clown Pokémon for kids.)
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>>26501507
>There are people who unironically deny every leak as fake, even though the past has shown a different outcome

>>>/a/
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>>26497353
Wait, wasn't this supposed to be the Rowlet middle evo from that set?
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>>26501872

>There are people who still don't know how to spot obvious fakes, which these clearly are

>>>/out/
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>>26501920

That looks neat but it looks WAAAAY too same-y to be Rowlet's evolution. I wouldn't be upset if it was though. I've never seen that image before so I'm not sure if it has been floating around and I've just missed it, or if it's new.
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>>26501765
Uh yeah it is. Look at warturtle
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>>26500140

What you didn't see was Rapelio doing his thing behind-the-scenes.
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>>26502006
>which these clearly are

Well, time to show off your great fake spotting skills. Why are those "clearly" fakes?
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>>26497353
>Grass final evo
I'd rather die
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>>26502052

I'm on my way to bed, but there has been plenty of evidence stacked against them. Obvious things pointed out by many people over many threads, both her, on redshit, and elsewhere, for two or three weeks now, and you idiots who still believe they could be real apparently haven't even bothered to read ANY of those comments.

So let me just leave you with this: they were "leaked" on /vp/ first with no source of any kind, and some of them (particularly the final Rowlet evolution) have parts of them directly copied from other images.

THESE ARE NOT REAL, YOU RETARD.
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>>26502090
>I have no arguments

Great, nice to have you as a part of this community.

Even if they are fake, they might be close to what we will actually get.
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>>26501005
Yeah, well like, charmeleon is a darker shade of red and wartortle grows fur.
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>>26501872
>>26502052
>>26502107
>implying real leaks have ever happened this early
First day on /vp/?
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>>26497441
>actual final stage
>actual
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>>26497353
The Rowlet fake evos are my least favorite thing to come out of the pokemon fandom outside of poorly drawn fetish art.
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>>26502090
>But there has been plenty of evidence stacked against them
>Evidence

Let me have it then.

Oh no, wait, you're saying that these so called evidences are things merely pointed out by people in various posts and comments?

That's cute.

You know, people can be right.

But at the same time, they can be AWFULLY wrong too. Just look at the way how people were judging the 5th gen leaks back then, going to such lengths to make actual "evidence" to make them look as if they were fake.

This clearly isn't the same kind of leak we're dealing with, but there's about a chance of it being real as there is a chance of them being fake. No one really fucking knows their shit until the truth finally comes out and people go out of their way to make a speech about how "right" they were.

At the time being, I'm in between the middle. Chances are, they MIGHT be fake, but there's always that possibility of these shitty leaks proving us wrong.

Actually, just to point out ONE thing.

At first glance, these might look as if these were taken photos of a computer screen. I thought so too.

But ever since the first stage of Popplio got out (the jester one), I noticed THAT one fucking line in a part of the white background.

That ain't a computer screen either. Most likely scenario, either the images printed or some sort of reference book. Who the fuck knows, but the images are actually in some form of paper.

See, I can be wrong. Anyone can be wrong about these, don't just take everything a person says as actual facts, chances are, the evidence aren't either sufficient or simply made up. It's like forged evidence in a crime scene, it doesn't really help at all getting to the bottom of it all. The point is, that doesn't mean we can't compile ALL the already existing proof and evidences of these leaks and make sure they're actually concrete and believable instead of simply jumping into conclusions and take a person's word for it.
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>>26502441
Anyone can make their leak look like it came out of a book or magazine
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litten grows then loses mane
rowlets final evo looks way too humanoid

FAKE AND GAY
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>>26497353
Why do people think these are real? It's painfully obvious that a fan made these.
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>they're real, you have no evidence to prove otherwise
>they're fake, you have no evidence to prove otherwise
They're both real and fake until proven officially real or fake by an official announcement or video by TPC or GF, or if they feature in Corocoro.
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Hello retards!
Did you even think that Litten middle and final evo may have change places?
Have a nice day.
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>>26497353
I pledge allegiance, to the flag, of the United States of Rapelio. And the rapepublic, for which he stands, one nation under his balls, indivisible, with raping and butthurt for all.
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>>26502052
Litten's final evolution is far too realistically drawn for the Pokemon series. The other final evos stick out like a sore thumb as well but this is the one that stuck out the most for me. It's just an incredibly thin mountain lion or similar with a flame at the end of its tail. Even "realistic" Pokemon (e.g. Persian I guess) have little parts in their design to indicate that it's cartoony. The tube limbs, the puffy unrealistic-looking paws, stylized whiskers, etc. If the middle evo was leaked by itself I would believe it; it fits closer to the general design direction they go with in the series. But either way, try and place these designs in with a bunch of existing Pokemon. What is the first thing you notice? They look out of place. They look outlandish, awkward, they don't fit in with the rest of the designs. Yes you can complain about "wahh shitty gen 5/6 designs don't look like REAL Pokemon" but at a glance you can tell they're Pokemon. These fake evos look like they belong in a different game series. I apologize that my argument doesn't reach out further than "they aren't designed in a way that is typically used for Pokemon designs", and if you're unfamiliar with art that argument is going to be weak, but if you don't believe me then study the existing designs yourself then compare them to the leaked ones. You'll see the visual cues I'm seeing which are indicating to me that these aren't real.

Also, outside of the one time when the person leaked the gen 5 starters and datamining-related incidents, when have any leaks been real? There haven't been, correct? Then ask yourself this: why should these be real? Unless Gamefreak/Corocoro/etc announce that these are real there is no reason for anyone to think they're real.

>>26502656
It looks like both would fit as a final evolution. That's a pretty big flaw in my opinion.
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>>26497353
Why are people's problems mostly with the cat and owl when the scaryass clown seal could literally never exist as a starter choice in a children's game?
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>>26501150
If they had made Samurott bipedal he would have been 10/10
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I love the desig>>26502751
>wanting more bipedal evos
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>>26502736
LOL
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>>26502681
>My Opinions are Fact: The Post
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>>26502765
But the pokemon doesn't look like that, anon? That's an artistic interpretation of something much more innocent (And, honestly, a bit girly) in design.
Banette also isn't a starter, and its a ghost throughout its entire run.
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>>26502775
All you have to do is fucking use your eyes and look at the old designs, then put them next to the new designs. It really is that simple. Even a blind person could see that the fake evolutions look out of place.
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>>26502775
Prove to us that those designs fit in with the existing Pokemon designs then. It shouldn't be too hard for you.
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>>26500507
>It's just a fat teenager, why are people not getting this?

Holy fuck, it is too.
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As it's been said more than once in this and a previous thread. Litten's 2nd evo is likely not bulky nor a lion, rather it's likely that's just excess fur that it eventually burns off for it's final evo. Even Litten's official description mentions it burning it's fur in a blaze when it's time to molt
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>>26497353
Litten's second evo makes no sense.
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>>26502824
Different Anon here, but even if you don't feel they fit in well with existing designs it's a moot point, because these fuckers exist and stick out like a sore thumb.
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I might have believed or hoped for these had not all 3 of them become edgy and much too adult. Hell, if just the seal or owl had turned out a little more childish this might have been a believable leak. ... actually, i think it's the seal that throws the whole thing off. Here's your starter. It's kefka. No refunds accepted.
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>>26502861
Look at dialga for a second and tell me that again
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>>26502816
>>26502824
You know what else looks out of place? EVERY FUCKING THING ELSE REVEALED FROM GEN VII.
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>>26502878
Dialga and Palkia don't have weird as shit facescreens. Or look anything like that.
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I know they're probably fake but design wise they really aren't that far from the designs of the last gen
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>>26503065
Not saying the screens aren't strange, but I'm pretty sure they're supposed to invoke space helmets, with Solgaleo being an astronaut and Lunalaa being an alien.
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>>26500291
>>26500228
It's not buff, it's floofy.
>>26500528
Concept: that's the BACK of its head. It has the most doofy and lovable expression, but "blindfolds" itself like a real knife-thrower by spinning its head into its hood.
>>26501920
Looks pretty fake. It's photographed much worse than the original possible leaks. Plus, look closely at the feet.
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Made by Reddit users
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>>26502878
...Fair enough. Goddamn Dialgia/Palkia and Zekrom/Reshiram/Kyurem looked dumb.
>>26502824
Gave it a shot, at any rate.
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>>26504063
Forgot to add my reasoning in there. grassassin owl is, in my eyes, the exact same deal as kickchicken, just with a different them (kickboxing vs assassin). Murderclown just looks like a generic fighting poke below his horrifying face, and we've seen that dumb grin before.
And liar liar tail on fire is just a generic cat, except more streamlined/built for speed.
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>>26497408
>blackpanther
>not Jagufire
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>>26504063
Blaziken and depicts round here with near perfect human proportion and people bitch about the owl with short ass legs and barely a neck...

>>26504126
Allot of Pokemon share similar traits you food, look at Crobat, Snorunt and Scrafty mouths.
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>>26504213
>Allot (sic) of Pokemon share similar traits you food (sic), look at Crobat, Snorunt and Scrafty mouths.
Yes. That appears to be the point.
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By itself Rowlets evo is pretty cool, but I don't like Happy Go Lucky Rowlet going up to be an edge master.
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>>26504063
>>26504126

I can understand these, apart from Ballio's reasoning, only because think of Ballio's grin more akin to Gengar, a playful smirk.

I mean, Game Freak isn't restricted into just doing tiger/panther designs that look overly designed as fuck, so Litten's evolution is actually a fresh breath of air for someone who wants their panther actually looking like a panther for once. And they've technically never explored a assassin approach at least regarding a actual pokemon, so it seems interesting to finally approach that by taking advantage of what a owl actually is, a predator.

And even Ballio's concept isn't that out of reach either, male sea lions do tend to be bulky and it's known for a fact that sea lions have great upper body strength. Even the "walking" on land part. Shit, just google it. And they've already experimented with Fire/Fighting and Grass/Fighting, why not Water/Fighting? I mean, legitimately, the only Water/Fighting types there actually are is Poliwrath and Keldeo.

That's it.

Pic related, what owls actually are.

Fuck you and your simple minded concept of owls being pure and innocent.
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>>26500573
This would be perfect.

I think it'd be fucking hilarious if it pulled its hood off and it just had Rowlet's face on it.
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"Rowlet can attack without making a sound!"Assassin Evo makes sense

Everyone's already explain Litten but also what comes after explosions? Smoke. A thinner final evo makes sense

And popplio sticks with the clown theme. I wouldn't be surprised if these were real or fake but damn they're good.
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>>26497370
they are literally cancer.
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>>26497353
Best fakes for these guys, by far. It almost hurts knowing Popplio will never be that badass.
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>>26504563
Too good. I fucking hate them because they're so good.
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You guys remember that based Froakie fake?
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>>26500531
>Pignite's wrestler theme
But Emboar wears pro wrestling gear.
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>>26502457
BUT GAY IS YOUR POST.
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>>26504788

I remember it.

Didn't make sense him getting those black blotches out of nowhere.

Ain't saying Greninja's make any sense either but eh.

And that Fennekin evolution looks more like a first stage and end it at that rather than second stage.
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>>26504788
This image just makes me angry.

Why is real Delphox so ugly?
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>>26504926
Don't care for fake Delphox either, but I loved fake Greninja.
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>>26504857
Because Grogadier gets dark blue splotches, why not give the final form darker splotches.

I liked it a bit more than Greninja at first, but Greninja has definitely grown on me.
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Preemptively accepting starter evolutions.
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>>26498546

Popplio's final reminds me so much of the circus clown from Scooby Doo. Rowlett's looks really awesome too. I'd be so happy if these were actually real.
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>>26504926
Are you serious? That Delphox design is much worse than the Delphox we got. Like, I can't believe anyone would unironically like it. Even if you liked Braixen and was upset it became something so different this design is just a shittier Braixen.
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>>26497353
They legitimately look like shit
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>"POPPLIO'S EVOLUTION IS TOO FUCKING CREEPY"
>Apparently no one's read Yamask and Cofagrigus's Pokedex entries, not to mention Jellicent or the Litwick line

What's so out of the ordinary about the idea of a Water/Dark or a Water/Psychic type
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The second form for Popplio's drawing seems off.
Specifically the point where the black on the tail goes into the blue body.
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>>26505083
What? What's off about it? That's actually one of the parts that makes it a really good drawing regardless of whether its real.
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>>26505101
Way it's shaped. Just looks off for pokemon in general for me.
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>>26505031

Actually, it's implied that he might get Water/Fighting, which Poliwrath and Keldeo are currently the only beholders of.

Still, don't pay attention, it might just be the hidden fright of clowns altogether. I don't really see him being that scary, people just tend to be frightened of what they can't understand too and Ballio is just a concept most would probably not understand at first as a pokemon design, but makes actual sense, when considering the actual animal he's based on.
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>>26505031
The type leaks suggest that Popplio will become Water/Fighting, which matches up with Rapelio's strongman motif.
>>26505083
I think that's just because it's twisting its torso.
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>>26505118
How?
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>>26505083
>>26505118
he's just wearing tight pants to accentuate all his suppleties
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>>26501469
Hush, little baby.
Tepig went from quadruped to biped to biped.
Snivy went from biped to biped to limbless.
It only stood to reason Oshawott would become a quadruped to balance the trio.
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>>26505083
I think that's from twisting its waist. The black part resembles swim pants, which turns into a strongman unitard in the final form
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>>26505132
It's propably because the artist anatomy just seems "too gud" for Pokemon.
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>>26501025
This.
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I'm in love with fake Litten. But as Anon above me said, it's fake because of virtually no change in color scheme whatsoever.
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The weirdest thing about these to me is that every one of them goes full on edgelord right when they hit their second evo's. I'm pretty doubtful, but they're probably the best fake evo's I've seen. (Artwise, I'm not big on the designs)
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>>26505267
Typhlosion and Feraligatr line, Emboar line, arguably Snivy line as well, at least as much as the final Rowlet fake evolution
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>>26497353
What's the original sauce of this leak?
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Popplio's final looks like the clown from that crap Stephen King novel, It I think. IMO it's far too creepy to be real.

In a similar vein Rowlett final looks like a generic grim reaper - decently cool, but too dark to be a final evo for a starter.

Litten final evo looks like a penis.
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>>26505304
Was on reddit and tumblrs a few hours before here , and was on various image sites a few hours before those.
These just flew from various corners of the bet.
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>>26505364
The final evo for Popplio seriously doesn't look at all like Pennywise, at least not the famous miniseries Tim Curry version, other than whatever features they have in common because they are clowns. People are away overexaggerating the creep factor of that last evo, like by a lot. It really isn't that creep at all. You wouldn't think anything of it were colored differently and we didn't know it was supposed to be a clown.

The final evo for Rowlet just has a hood... is being a hooded thing too "dark?" It also makes very a very interesting potential visual gimmick for battle animations, Amie, etc.
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>>26505031
A completely valid point, but those aren't starters.

Furthermore I don't think they're as creepy - am I the only one getting the Stephen king vibe?
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>>26505401
It's not that creepy...you just choose to connect it to things that makes it creepier to you.

Like GF has limited Pokemon to common and pop culture films when we have pokes based on aliens ghost demons and cryptids.
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>>26505401
>Am I the only one getting the Stephen King vibe?

Nah, just you and everyone else.

Literally almost everyone just started comparing him to It/Pennywise.

Asides from the whole clown thing, they barely have anything in common.
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They're fake because imagine trying to make merchandise out of all of these guys. Owltiare will not translate well to plush forma so that alone confirms fake. As if it needed to be said.
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>>26505545
>Owltiare will not translate well to plush forma so that alone confirms fake.
So, waht about it makes it not translate well to plush form? You can't just state something like it's an obvious matter of fact as thought the features that make something plush toy-able are something every knows about, like fire bad and the sky being blue. I'd be interesting in knowing what makes this less so, than, say, Hoopa Unbound or Mewtwo.
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>>26505545
Merchandise can be made for anything, plushies never even look the same aside from baby pokes the first place. They chibi'd the fk out of even garchomp to make it cute and appealing.
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Well, all three make perfect sense if you pay attention to details.
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If this Rowlet line is real, I'm going to have a new Pokemon among my favs. Litten looks amazing as well. Popplio's line isn't really my thing, but I still see why people like it so much and I appreciate it.
If we get anything that isn't those, I'll be disappointed.
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>>26505612
I agree completely, but please actually provide some.
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>>26497353
Rowlet
>Rowlet can attack without making a sound! It flies silently through the skies, drawing near to its opponent without being noticed, and then lashing out with powerful kicks. It can also attack from a distance using the razor-sharp leaves that form part of its feathers. It's visual abilities are impressive.

Owlsassin makes sense. It is the fully developed concept of a stealthy, silent fighter that attacks from a distance or uses its sturdy legs for powerful kicks.

Litten
>Litten can attack with flaming hairballs! Its fur is rich in oils and immensely flammable. Litten grooms itself by licking its fur, and then uses the collected fur as fuel for fireball attacks! When the time comes for Litten to shed its old fur, it all burns up in a glorious blaze.

It's fur is immensely flammable, which is why its tail begins to ignite. In its second stage, it seems that it is getting ready to "shed its old fur" as it is now built up considerably in the front of its body, which it does in its final form.

Popplio
>Popplio's swimming speed is known to exceed 25 mph. It's better at moving in the water than on land. Still, when it's on land, it takes advantage of the elasticity of its balloons to perform acrobatic stunts and jumps.

Popplio looks like an acrobat>juggler>clown transformation here. Note how the white lines in popplio's fins widen it its second stage to become hand-like, and then fully separate into fingers in the final stage.

These could be real or fake, but in either case they're damn good and make sense.
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>>26505886
>Rowlet
Gains a larger article of clothing as the bow tie around its neck becomes a hood. The feather knife remains and it is expanded upon as the third stage gains an even more apparent assassin theme. This remains consistent with the circus theme as it becomes reminiscent of the knife thrower. It's long legs are most likely a detail from Burrowing Owls.

A mix of Knife Throwing, Long Legged Owls and Assassins.

>Popplio
The second stage gains a jester like appearance and juggling balls made of water, entirely consistent with the clown motif. The dark coloring on it's tail is similar to that of tights, which circus limber performers often wear. It also becomes more upright in stature despite it's lower body, which extends into the last evolution. This is probably a reference to the amazing upper body strength of sea lions. The leotard like pattern as well as very defined torso and arms play well into the idea that it might be a Strongman Fighting type. It also gains a goofy head of clown hair and gloves for the clown idea. The juggling balls becomes a single large ball that is usually associated with circus seals.

A mix of Clowns, Strongmen, Preforming Seals and possibly Acrobatics.

>Litten
It's first stage has a tail similar to that of a bomb fuse and the second stage has it lit. It also gains a wild head of hair similar to that of an explosion as well as a corsair marking upon it's face. This is very reminiscent of explosives which works with the fire hairball projectile Litten is drawn with. The final stage gains a much sleeker body and more simplistic markings. The corsair upon it's face remains as well as the lit tail which makes it look very much like a cannon about to be set off.

A mix of Circus Lions and Explosives, specifically cannons.

They really are great designs and it's gonna suck when they are debunked in the future. They also remind a bit of pirates but that's overreaching.
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I'm finding it really hard to believe these are fake even though there are details, much like >>26506027 and >>26506300 implied.

Because it really does take a lot of brainstorming to even come up with just a quarter of these designs. Can you really say this was all made up by just one person?

Most people would do is slap something elegant for Popplio, even though Popplio is not a seal but rather a sea lion, a guardian-like or also elegant evolution for Rowlett or something "polite" and something resembling a blazing lion for Litten. At least I've seen some people actually coming up with a panther for Litten.

Who knows, maybe these leaks had more than one artist behind it and it all ends up being fake as fuck. But I find it really hard to believe just one person alone came up with all these designs.
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>>26506394
Honestly I think all the explanation and justification of Litten's evolutions ia reach, like the bomb and cannon shit. But it still remains there's probably some explanation behind it that isn't readily apparent (I do buy into the shedding its fur explanation a bit more, but the design seems like a weird way to sell it, I'd have made it all on fire on the second or something and made it clearly poofy in the first stage with the last stage remaining sleek and smooth if that was the intended motif...) which means there's probably some good thought put into it.
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>>26506454
>like the bomb and cannon shit.
Think about it. It's extremely fitting for a fire type in the circus
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>>26506567
There is no fucking circus theme yet. Fuck you.
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>>26506567
Chesnaught: Strongman
Delphox: Magician, firebreather
Greninja: Acrobat
Circus theme confirmed!!
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>>26506576
>>26506588
>Being in this much denial of the Dark Carnival
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Some Pokemon fans kill me with that whole wanting "realistic designs" deal. My god, if you want to see real animals, tune into fucking Animal Planet, leave the fucking house, and/or visit a zoo. Goddamn. This isn't rocket science.
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>>26506627
KEK is there an Ballio or Owltair version of this?
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>>26506635
>GET OUT OF MY HOBBY IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT THE WAY I LIKE IT

How about you go fuck yourself with a condom full of worms?
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>>26506454
For some reason everyone keeps ignoring the oil theme from littens dex entry. The middle evo is a greasy messy teenager and the final evo gets that shit under control and becomes slick as fuck.
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>since the cat is meant to be a circus cat it only learns fire spin
>water joker learns only bubble
>green arrow owl gets razor leaf and nothing else too

how pissed would you be?
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>>26506740
Ballio gets the most fanart, then Owltair. Cannonther gets little to none. Between all three there aint much.
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>>26506783
I find that to be even more of a reach than the middle form supposed to be its fur becoming too messy and it "molting" for the third form.
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>>26506799
Shedding, anon. It's fur not a carapace. Also you stole my dubs. Checked.
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>>26501150
huh

what do Samurott's ears look like?
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>>26506858
This is disturbing me too now.
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i'll believe these are real if anyone can show another pokemon with a flame like Litten 2 and 3
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>>26497353
Probably the best executed fake starters line in the Pokemon story.

I never liked Fakemon starters, because they was lazy designs that the only goal of these was the easy approbation. But these designs are really clever.

They would be Pokemon. They have the charisma of original species.
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>>26506896

I fucking love this image too much.

>That ascending Ballio face and the right one

Fucking gets me every time.
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>Grass/Dark
>Water/Dark
>Fire/Dark
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>>26506921
Chandelure has similar gradient flames.
Littens here dont really seem to me simply flames also, more so smoke trail on the furry Litten, which is probably why they trail so long.
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I want more Ballio fan art.

The same kind of fan art that makes him look endearing and silly as fuck in all of his sea lion majesty.
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>>26506987
>Somewhat creepy means dark
Ballio was made for Hammer Armong fucks into the ground.
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>>26506984
Kill yourself
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>>26507004
Meant for >>26506984
Whoops

That's all for my dump. There's definitely more out there.
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>>26506984
>grass/flying
>water/fighting
>fire/dark
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>>26507012
Yeah don't worry, that's on my bucket list!
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>>26507025

You missed this one.

Made by the same artist apparently who also did these >>26507004 >>26506951
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>>26507036
Didn't someone leak a typing list of the starters? There was subtyping for Ground and Fighting. No one was sure for who though. I was thinking

>Grass/Ground
>Water/Fighting
>Fire
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>>26506965
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Since anon is posting ballio fanart, does anyone want to request some? I'm trying to get back into the mood of drawing, I feel awful having my tablet all dusty after months of not using it. Tell me the kind of Ballio you wish, anon.
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>>26501920
maybe four line evolution?
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>>26506853
>>26507056
Cringe shit gtfo
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I know I'm missing this one picture of the Litten Evo as a literal cannon. Was fucking hilarious.

>>26507104
Ballio holding both Owltair and Cannonther on both arms as a testament of strength. They need more group pics.
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>>26507104

I want silly goofy Ballio, please.

Heck, I want him to be as drawn as silly as possible while doing your run of the mill sea lion tricks you'd usually see in a ocean park or what not. Clapping his hands, what not.
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Well guys. It's confirmed. Look at this image taken from an EB Games advertising Sun/Moon. Can't get any more official.
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>>26507104
Too much Ballio gimme one of the Owls or the final Litten.
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wtf i cant wait till the actual evos are released so this god awful frighting things no longer gets circulated
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>>26507252
Anon, the kids these games are made for have more guts than you.
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>>26507104
Ballio holding blackpanther in front of a giant dart board while owltair is throwing knives at it.
Bonus points if owltair is blinding himself by turning his head 180 degrees.
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>>26507138
Work in progress. I'm having quite a bit of fun, I love these guys. It's a shame they're almost definitely fake. Suggestions more than welcomed.

>>26507179
When I'm done with this, I'll make a quick Owltario for you. Maybe sneak in some of #BlackPantherSoLit.
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>>26506951
>paint me like one of your Kalosian water-types
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>>26507252
>Frightening things

They'd probably be more frightened of you desu
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>>26507495
Fucking amazing.
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>>26497353
Dude weed
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>>26507495

Oh shit nigga wasn't expecting this kind of talent around these parts that looks fucking tight

Can't wait to see what'll come out of this.
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>>26497353
Still no Porn?
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Over the past weeks, I've fallen in love with Rapelio. I was going to pick Poplio, but will it ever be the same if he doesn't evolve into a rape clown.
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>>26507495
Holy Shit, what do you mean you're rusty, stop wasting talent and draw some comics or something.
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>>26500140
>brown
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>>26500140

Ballio was already my favorite of the three, but now I actually love him and want him to be real.

Why do you torture me like this, Anon?
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>>26503644

Jesus fuck. I don't mind the Gen 6 final starters, but man were they completely the opposite of what anyone could have expected. It kind of makes me sad.
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>>26507495
Requesting a dynamic Cannonther piece of art. Maybe a classic Lion lunge? From the front? Gray background? No?
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>>26507887
I want thicc black woman Ballio to violate me...
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I-Is anyone still here? I think I'm done guys, I finished it

>>26507887
Are you still here? I kinda wanna do yours next. If you're here.
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>>26508636
very nice!
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>>26508636
I'm in love. Thank you for this.
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>>26508636
Based
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>>26507069
>bird losing flying as a type

nah
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>>26508636
Based drawfag, you still got it
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>>26508743
Google the Ornimegaloynx. Extinct species of owl that was nearly flightless and had incredibly long legs. Possibly related to Burrowing Owls which are very adapted to low terrain areas.

Still a stretch. But it would be an interesting inspiration.
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>>26508845
too much of a stretch imo. The owls that Japan have been memeing recently have been big-eyed and barn-ish owls
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>>26508685
I know Bon Clay when i see him
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>>26497353
Ah, good, I can stay with Rowlet. <3
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>>26508889
That show really teaches you to love the strangest of people.
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>>26500573
What's happy pupil expression? Like when Pikachu's eyes go Michael J Foxxing?
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>>26508911
It certainly does
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>>26504349
Holy shit, those owls. They're like aliens.
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>>26504999
Holy shit, this. If it's real I'm totally nicknaming him a reference based off this episode.
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>>26508636
Good GOD, would bro them all.
Gj anon.

I want them to have their own co-op game now.
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>>26508636
That's wonderful!! I love how happy Rowlet's evo looks.
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>>26508636
This is fantastic. You're making it more heart wrenching if they end up fake, though.
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>>26508636
Please return in the future based art anon
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>>26508636
Tfw excellent art wasted on fake starters.. Just fuck my shit up. I don't even like the Litten evo but damn it.
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>>26510890
No such thing as wasted art...wtf.
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>>26510890
Oh yeah would have been batter if it had gone to those amazing official final evos that haven't been released yet.
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Seriously...?
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>>26506965
Pssh nothing personowl, kid
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>>26510999
Nice
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>>26510966
>>26510993
You guys are taking it the wrong way... It's more like what >>26510095 said. Its not meant to be an insult to the artist like it was a waste of their time... It's just going to fall into obscurity and meaninglessness along with the fakes which is a huge shame like all the Roothoot art.
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>>26511045
Nah. Ballio will always be my favorite starter even if he is fake. All 3 off them aint going nowhere.
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>>26511066
I really love Eziowl and I don't want it to be fake... But what are the odds lightning strikes twice especially no confirmation other news sources...
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>>26508636
Stop breaking my heart, please.
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>>26504788
I really liked these ones
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>Based Fakemon Fanart
>Nonstop Pokeporn threads
>Queen of /vp/ is crowned
>Two of my mons died to Horn Drill in a Nuzlocke

Today will not be easy to forget.
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>>26508636

Oh shit, this is bloody amazing! Fucking kudos to ya, man, you wonderful son of a bitch. You're doing god's work here! I love how fucking dynamic it looks and you've really made the perspective on Ballio really work out in the end!

Trust me, I know good art when I see it and this is some fine ass good art. Don't lose your hope, man, keep up brushing them art skills!
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>>26508636
I really hope that they're real
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>>26497353
>anyone not underage unironically believe this """""leak"""""
collectively end yourselves
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>>26508636
Good God, i will be miserable when the real evos get revealed
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>>26499169

tooti-frooti
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The final forms are way too edgy for pokemon.
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>>26497353
Fake, but I'll bite. Litten's 2nd and 3rd forms should be reversed. It's 3rd form you have posted there looks like a middle stage. and Popplio's 3rd form like liike a clown child molester.
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>>26514080
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It's time for the artist to reveal himself, this has gone too far now.
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>>26497353
Rowlett and Popplio's final stages look cool but they're not very pokemon-esque designs. They're more digimon than pokemon especially when you look at the faces. Pokemon don't tend to have expressions like those, I really do wish they were real though.
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did the artist misread juggler as juggalo? these are not bad, but so obviously fake it makes the thread hard to read.
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>>26514282
not that kind of edgy, you autist.
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>>26514111

you are an idiot

the third form is clearly much larger and more powerful. second is just fluffy.
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>>26514339
As much as I love them, the day these are announced real is the day I commit myself to the Dark Carnival to worship miracles.

>>26514370
I think it was a joke, anon.
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>>26508636
fucking based
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>>26500405
Talonflame being a shit name doesn't excuse another shit name.
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>>26514330
>gengar
>electrode
>sableye
>rotom
>darmanitan

All have faces that resemble the final Popplio design. Angry eyes and big, shiny, pointy smile.

But no, you're right.
Pokemon have faces that look like this.
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>>26514330
people who say this don't know what they are talking about 100% of the time. do you even know what digimon look like? these are no weirder than gen 6 starters.
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>>26514397
Yes, and?

Are you misreading anon on purpose?
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>>26514415
how is he misreading anything at all. he's saying that one shitty ass name is not an excuse for another shitty ass name. doing it twice would be even more punishable.
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>>26504788
I am so glad we got Delphox instead of this ugly thing.
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>>26504788
This artist gets it. Evo's should be a natural progression like the Bulbasaur line and not like the Torchic line.
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>>26514432
they honestly look like forms that would still go before greninja and delphox. as if there were two middle evolutions.
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>>26500291
remember Litten's hair spikes up when it attacks, the sleek panther might get all spiky when it uses a move.
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>>26508636
That's fantastic. Good job!
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>>26514432
Hey, it's not ugly. My only problem with it is that it's too similar to the second form.
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Question. I heard Sugimori is retiring, then who's the main artist now? how good are his designs? because, compared to the legendaries, these evolutions look too, how can i say it, nice? the lion is filled with weird ugly lines and the other one looks like a kirby character but less detailed.
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>>26515067
First time I've heard about Sugimori potentially retiring. That said if I recall there's actually been a few other Pokemon illustrators, such as Yusuke Ohmura (who apparently created the designs for Piplup, Oshawott, and the X/Y legendaries)

Another illustrator is James Turner who designed several B/W Pokemon
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>>26507138
This one?
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>>26514330
>They're more Digimon than Pokemon
>Digimon

are you even aware of what digimon became along the years because I don't think you have

Fucking annoyance, seeing people comparing shit to Digimon all the goddamn time without even knowing what they're talking about.

And I usually tend to HATE fakemons because they usually don't fit Pokemon's art style.

The irony of this post being that, I've actually grown FOND of these even though I utterly despise fakemons as a whole and the way how they just completely miss the point.

Call them unusual by any means, creepy, what not, but at least to me, they do look like they'd at least fit in the pokemon world unlike any other fakemon I have ever seen.

And let's fucking face it, we're also talking about a franchise which has found its way to make a monster design out of fucking keys, ice cream and bursting through the seams trash bags.
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>>26508636
I'm here again. Sorry for leaving :[ hope you can still do my request
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>>26508645
>>26508685
>>26508740
>>26508764
>>26509408
>>26509884
>>26510095
>>26510753
>>26510890
>>26511441
>>26513159
>>26513774
>>26513855
>>26514565
Shit /vp/, that's the definition of an overwhelming response right there. Thank you everyone! really, it really pushes me to continue with this. I'll definitely stay lurking, I've been here for a few years already, sometimes way more active than other times, but when the evolutions get revealed and our collective hearts get brutally destroyed when Cannonpanther/Ballio/Owltair are fake, you bet I'll be there too.

>>26516193
Cool, I'll get on it soon. I have to get some food first.
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>>26516393
You definitely deserve all compliments
:] deserved a snack as well lmfao
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>>26516393
Continue man, you're awesome.
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>>26516393
I will troll this board with Ballio long after this is archived just to see your work anon.
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