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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>NEW Trailer for upcoming events:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfM1qP1cbj4

>Movie 19: Volcanion and the Ingenious Magearna [Jul 16th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/
NEW Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWtBDuxrcS0

Next episode:
>XY&Z025: Ash VS Champion Diantha! VS Mega Gardevoir!! [May 5th]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_xyz/trailer/

Upcoming episodes:
>XY&Z026: Rival Showdown! Ash VS Shota!! [May 12th]
>XY&Z027: Snowbelle Gym Match! A Battlefield of Ice!! [May 19th]
>XY&Z028: The Winding Woods... The Dawn of Evolution! [May 26th]

Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.

>Will Serena win da Ash?
It sure looks that way.

>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>26127230
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XY&Z20 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_020_Elle_VS_Serena!_Open_the_Door_to_the_Future!![H264_720P][65F0FC71].mkv.torrent

MOVIE 18 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY_Movie_2_-_The_Archdjinni_of_Rings_-_Hoopa[H264_1080P][0E97AEA2].mkv.torrent

MOVIE 18 SHORT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY_Movie_2_Short_-_Pikachu_and_the_Pokemon_Musicians[H264_1080P][8CE702AE].mkv.torrent

XY&Z21 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=800644

XY&Z22 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=802866

XY&Z23 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=804860

XY&Z24 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=806938

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z25: SATOSHI VS CHAMPION CARNE! VS MEGA SIRKNIGHT!! (MAY 5TH)
>Satoshi's Gekkouga and Carne's Sirknight clash! And at long last, Sirknight mega evolves in battle!?
>Also, the Pokémon Elections 720 is underway! This is the last time you get to vote via the data broadcast!

>Summary:
>Champion Carne has come to Satoshi and the others! She tells them she's heard a prophecy about a crisis that will now befall Kalos and that she came to meet them since it's said they hold the key to the incident. When she asks Satoshi and the others if they've experienced anything strange, they tell her about the mysterious Gekkouga phenomenon, which leads to Carne suddenly asking Satoshi for a battle...?

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Mayuki Makiguchi: Serena
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mariya Ise: Eureka
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Megumi Hayasahibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Fumiko Orikasa: Carne
>Masako Katsuki: Gojika
>Hideaki Tezuka: Fleur-de-lis
>Tsuguo Mogami: Xerosicy
>Chinatsu Akasaki: Minami
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration
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UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 31 (May 8th)
>Abareru-kun Parades Around with the Goal of Collecting 1000 Votes for the Pokémon Elections 720 / Nicolun Talks with Pokénds about Love for Pokémon!

XY&Z026: Rival Showdown! Ash VS Shota!! (May 12th)
>As Ash, Pikachu and the others head towards Snowbelle City so they can get the final gym badge, they once again meet Shota at a Pokémon Center along the way. Shota, who greatly admires Ash, tells them that he has worked hard towards the single goal of catching up with Ash, and has already collected the 8 badges. Ash then decides to have a 3-on-3 battle with Shota to test just how strong he has become. But just how skilled IS Shota?

XY&Z027: Snowbelle Gym Match! A Battlefield of Ice!! (May 19th)
>Having arrived in Snowbelle City, Ash attempts the final Gym match needed to enter the Kalos League. His opponent is the Ice Type Gym Leader Wulfric. Ash struggles with the match, but the key to victory lies with a certain Pokémon.

XY&Z028: The Winding Woods... The Dawn of Evolution! (May 26th)

POKÉMON XY&Z CHARACTER SONG PROJECT VOL. 1:
http://www.megafileupload.com/ao6i/Pokémon_XY&Z_Character_Song_Project_Vol.1.zip

DREADREA (BY SERENA, CV MAYUKI MAKIGUCHI):
http://www.megafileupload.com/aynY/DreaDrea_(Serena,_CV_Mayuki_Makiguchi).aac

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA CHAPTER 1:
http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8
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This thread begins with best grill
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>>26129562
Ash has some great, beautiful legs.
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>>26129597
>girl
That's Satoshi, you blind mole.
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>>26129598
>>26129605
*best manlet
reminder that mexican ash is best ash
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>>26129605
That's what the other anon said. Are you autistic?
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DUCKLETT GIRL
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>>26129020
>Before battles, Serena kisses the mega stone for good luck
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>>26129020
So basically, the ending of the BW manga?
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>>26129427
How did that happen?
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Best legs
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>>26129711
Homoscience was killed recently
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>>26129717
>Millefeui doesn't even have the title of best legs anymore
Just when you thought Milfy couldn't be any more of a failure
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>>26129750
Stop posting that piece of trash
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>>26129732
... again
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Art.
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>>26129760
>Millefeui
>trash
You are wrong, newfriend.
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>>26129779
>Millefeui
>not trash
Pick one and only one.
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>>26129779
It's trash

Get over it
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>>26129562
>[PM] is subbing XY&Z. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Can we just change it to "[pm] gave up, so never"
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Please stop bullying Adamant, he already apologizes every day for the lateness.
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SOON actually
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>>26129690
>Ash fuses his conscience into Greninja's body permanently and continues his journey as a giant, talking blue frog with a team of pokemon

>Serena takes every opportunity she can to jump off of cliffs so Ash can catch her with his tongue
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>>26129839
thanks, brah
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>>>/wsg/1059377
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>>26129861
My daily bread.
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>>26129690
>serena goes on a journey in the SM region with the mega stone in a bag to try and find a way to get ash out
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>>26129839
It'd be nice if you could prioritize XY&Z23 subs over the 2 episodes before it, but knowing the content of those 2 episodes everyone else will want them first.
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>>26129876
>"Sure, I'll see what I can.... Miss, is there any particular reason that this stone is covered in saliva?"
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When is Ash going to get a sixth Pokemon?

For Christ's sake, he's already at the eighth Gym Leader.
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>>26130006
Everything will seem lost during the Team Flare climax with Lysandre's Mega Gyarados towering over the defeated heroes, when suddenly the latter is BTFO by a massive Dragon Pulse fired by a returning Goodra.
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>>26129597
High tier but Dawn or May is better.
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>or May
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Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Satoshi? Let alone defeat him. And I’m not talking about Satoshi from Masara Town. I’m not talking about Satoshi champion of the Orange league either. Hell, I’m not even talking about Satoshi from Masara Town champion of the Orange League and destroyer of Battle Frontier, equipped with his fully evolved team, best waifu, super smart bro, super cute imouto, with puni-chan in her pouch, electric rat, luchador hawk, bat destroyer of zapdos, rambo the manlist dragon, ballerina rape birb, and fully controlled Satoshi genkougga while styling on sampei with his ninja training.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoF5tfbmHmg
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>>26129717
>That gap between her legs.
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Why is Omode retweeting Tanaka-kun recently? Does she work on it or something?
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>>26130136
I'm biased towards Dawn because she has been my waifu for 5 years but I know May has the right traits to make her also top tier.
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>>26130032
>it ain't me starts playing
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>>26130188
She's the head writer.
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>>26130436
Whoa. That anime is comfy as fuck. Also, I keep imagining Alan when Tanaka-kun talks.
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>>26130488
Rino is Aoi Yuki, if you didn't know.
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As excited as I am for the upcoming episodes, I have to say there is one other thing I'm really looking forward to: the reaction from everyone in the League when Ash-Greninja is revealed for the first time.

My memory is fuzzy, but does Professor Sycamore even know about it?
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Blog update:
>Nyarth's Pokémon Elections Diary #16: Nyarth Dreams of the Election!


>The interim report didn't have me in the top 100.


>Not being in the top 100 means I could be ranked anywhere from 101st to 720th.
>If I'm ranked 720th, that means I have to overtake 719 Pokémon.
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>>26130501
Nope
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>>26130515
>Just what rank do I have!?
>Please tell me!!
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>>26130524
>Ah! I was having a nightmare...
>Hey, Munna! Could you eat my nightmare?

>Huh.

>That's Munna for you.
>I can't remember what I dreamed at all.

>The Pokémon on the top of the "Pokémon Elections 720" is me!
>Please give me a voooote!
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Also, a comment from Tomohisa Sako, who of course voted Altaria:
>Because I want to rule the entire world through Tyltalis' fluffiness.
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>>26130501
Me too actually

>yfw unknown illegal evo means disqualified
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>>26130515
>>26130524
>>26130532
That cat is losing it.
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>>26130501
No one will be surprised, the only surprise will come from how hard Ash will lose against the champion's 300% gen 7 synchro evolution.
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>>26130635
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>>26130188
What's the point of that anime?
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>>26130667
It's comfy.
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>>26130720
and gay
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>>26130755
>2016
>not being gay
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Did we ever get a translation for this?
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This might be the most pathetic shot of the whole anime
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>>26130897
Ready go was a really fucking good op
One of my favourites alongside battle frontier and greatest everyday until xyz
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>>26130897
>be the most pathetic shot
Why? looks very dramatic to me.
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>>26130923
>greatest everyday
why people like this one so much? the song is meh
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>>26130931
maybe because Brock and Misty are just standing there staring
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>>26130945
The scene with all pf ash's mons posing was hype as fuck. The reveal of infernape, and that ending scene with all of ash's mons was also really good
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>>26130945
You are meh
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>>26130963
I like the visuals but the song is just ergh
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>>26130956
They're sad too
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>Hear Alain's showing up again
>Catch up ASAP
>subs are 3 episodes behind it

Well that's a shame. On another note, I stopped watching after Johto, is there any other parts of the anime worth going back and watching?
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>>26130977
DP is worth a watch the whole way. The plot heavy episodes are real good and some fillers really knock it out of the park (e.g Togepi filler, which is still one of the best fillers to this date because of how nonsensical it is)
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>>26130972
sad about how pathetic Ash is
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>>26131010
Woah now, let's not be mean
Sure he's no DP/XY Ash, but he matured quite a bit in johto
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>>26130970
Yeah, I dislike every DP opening because I can't stand the female singer.
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>>26130977
Just watch the raw and ask us if you need clarification on anything.
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>>26131032
DP has my least favorite OPs. AG has the best
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>>26131032
High touch is by rica and toyoguchi though
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>>26131062
toyoguchi ruins it
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So I haven't actually watched this shit since sometime in Advanced Generations.

Saw some gifs and it's basically turned into Naruto/Digimon with Pikachu getting cucked by Gamefreak's new poster child? Sign me the fuck up.
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>>26131073
>not liking toyoguchi
Shit taste indeed
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>>26131076
Also does anyone have a rundown on their explanation for the Ashninja fusion stuff or at least episodes it features in?
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>>26131073
Actually i kinda agree

She's really jarring compared to rica, who fucking nailed the song like every song she does
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>>26131062
Every other Rica song>High touch
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>>26129562
Has he become Greninja?
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>>26131104
He is one with Greninja desu ~
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>>26130993
That's a pretty long watch, but I guess I don't have anything better to do. Might as well give it a go.
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>>26130945
The English chorus is hype as hell.
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>>26131117
de gozaru

>yfw Ash starts saying de gozaru just like Froakie in the dream episode
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>>26131088
Episodes: XY92/93 (as Olympia's premonition), XY&Z6/7 (Frogadier's evolution and first instance of Ash Greninja), XY&Z9 (Ash Greninja vs Team Flare Admins), XY&Z13 (Ash Greninja vs Sceptile and vs Mega Charizard X), XY&Z23 (vs Mega Charizard X again).

There are parts of explanation in each of those episodes but it's still ongoing. The next snippet will be in the next episode (XY&Z25) against Diantha's Mega Gardevoir.
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Ash is a short guy
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>>26131213
For Serena?
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Was there ever a time where Ash was Edgy?
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Although an Amourshipper, i really want Misty to return and see Ash with a fully evolved Water Type Starter with such mysterious powers, as a gym leader, she can also provide her views on it
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>>26131251
When he got possessed y the King of Pokelantis, I guess, though that was literally just the king talking through him.
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>>26131297
What?
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>>26131286
Ash is a better water trainer than her tho
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>>26131310
AG179. Ash fucked around inside some ruins and ended up getting possessed by an evil king that had been sealed away there.

It's a better episode than it sounds.
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>>26131353
So that is where that evil ash thing came from, i thought it was from a cut movie scene
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>>26131286

Reminder that Misty's last canon appearance was 11 years ago in 2005 when Ash came home from Hoenn. The writers haven't had her appear in 3 generations and an entire decade worth of episodes.
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>>26131241
For you.
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>>26131366
Its Brandon's first episode, the Pyramid King of the Battle Frontier. Its not like it happened in a random filler.
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>>26131366
The trailer for movie 13 showed Ash encountering a grinning and sort of evil looking clone of himself, though it was actually just Zorua fucking around. Just like all other movies, the scene from the trailer ended up looking somewhat different in the movie itself, though it wasn't "cut".
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>we'll never get an actual edgy and evil Ash
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Ash using his tongue to catch (as of yet unknown) fly Pokémon out of the air and eat them when?
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>>26131459
>forgetting Dr. Pavel
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>>26131425
That picture is from the actual movie, while in the initial trailer, the scene looked like this.

For some reason, this has caused a bunch of idiots to claim the movie was originally supposed to be about an "evil Ash" before getting completely retooled into the Zoroark movie, despite the two scenes looking pretty damn similar.
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Demon King Satoshi when?
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>>26131088
XY 92, 93
XY&Z 6, 7, 9, 13, 23

Basically, Ash hit the jackpot as his Greninja turned out to be the Legendary Super Saiyan of the species. The transformation works as a synchronization between Ash and the frog, and the more synchronized they are, the more powerful the form is. Also Ash can see what Greninja sees and can feel his pain.
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>>26130161
It screams transexual. There used to be something in there that now it's missing.
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Is X/Y Ash legal in your country now that he's 16 ?
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Good day /padt/, how are you doing?
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>>26131805
??
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>>26131832
It's past midnight you faggot.
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>>26131853
>timezones
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>>26131832
I want to see under that robe!
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If Ash doesn't master his greninja transformation he's going to lose the league. Specially the pain situation, isn't greninja I'm concerned of but Ash because he's just human. His pain tolerance is less than most pokemon


Man, jannies and mods are so based. I love you people!
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pocket monsters has totally given up
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>>26132163
Of course you do Ash.
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>>26130103
Aprende a hablar inglés retrasado
Is= Singular
Are= Plural
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>>26132418
Build wall
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>>26132495
I´m not a dirty mexican
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>>26132220
Beating the preliminary league is not what I'm worried about. Ash was always capable of it. My question is if Ash is ready to fight the E4 or the champion.

The preliminary league is just a tournament for scrubs to qualify for the challenge. Obviously those fights are nothing compared to the E4.
If Ash isn't ready to fight the E4, I wouldn't mind if he lost the league.

IMO It would just be a waste of time to see him win the league but lose to the E4.

Then again, Outside of the league matches, E4 members have already proposed battles with ash because they knew how good he was.
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>>26132393
For you.
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>>26132295
See >>26129839
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A new biweekly live action Pokemon series just got announced, starring Shu Watanabe and some random kids
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>>26132637
sauce or bullshit
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>>26132637
Well there goes my hope for him being ZyuohTheWorld.
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>>26132658
Serebii.
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>>26132658
>In The Pokémon Department

>Pika-Chan

>A special official Youtube show has been announced for Japan. This show is to be called Pika-Chan and will be released on the official Youtube channel and Nintendo 3DS & Wii U eShop. The first episode is set to go live on May 11th and the second on May 18th. Subsequent episodes will run every other week.
>This show is hosted by Shu Watanabe and two children, Taku Sawaguchi (Tsukkie) & Takada Toyume (San-chan) and will provide various things for Pokémon. In "The Phantom Battle Guy", where the mysterious battle guy, played by Shu Watanabe, appears out of nowhere to teach the children about battles. The second segment is the "Today's Pokémon" segment which will showcase interesting facts and news on specific Pokémon each episode
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>>26132690
jesus fucking christ

I don't know if I should be hype for this
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>>26132658
You're a big guy.
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>>26132705
It's Shu Watanabe. It's gonna be fun as fuck.
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>>26132705
For you.
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>>26132549
>>26132837
For you.
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>>26132393
Think she'd let me?
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>>26132973
>implying she wouldn't
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If I mostly enjoyed XY(&Z) for Citron, How based Team Rocket were and Tripokalons will I enjoy DP?
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>>26132864
For you.
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>Ashfags actually think he'll get with Serena

SEAN HAS ALREADY WON
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>>26133026
Hikari's contests are kinda eh in comparison with the Tripokalons, but they do tell a pretty decent storyline, just like the Tripokalons did for Serena.
Team Rocket are really fun, though they're never really presented as a threat the way they occasionally are in XY. The comedy is probably better though.
Brock a boring shit.

It's a good series as a whole, though, you'll probably like it.
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>>26133141
Are you on crack?
Hikari's Contests are WAY better than these glorified beauty pageants called Tripokalons.

Tripokalons are shit.
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Threadly reminder that the hide button is your friend

just let grandpa ramble about the good old days to himself
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>>26133319
>just let grandpa ramble about the good old days to himself
???
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>>26133274
Too bad that your opinion means shit, noodle
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>>26133333
Welp, can't argue with quints.
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>>26133333
Tripokalon's were OK for what they were, but Contests were a lot more exciting. Not only because of the actual battling, but because of the sheer mass of them and they went on the entire span of a region.
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>>26133333
wololo quints tell all
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>>26133333
Noodlerama BTFO.
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>>26133388
When will Puni finally do something again and why does it take the Flair scientists so long to track him down?
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>>26133412
They already decided it wasn't traveling with Ash anymore.
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>>26133406
So now every Dawn fan is Noodlerama? Just accept there are people that like previous Pokegirls, maybe even more than those that will ever like Serena.
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>>26133434
Everyone who likes May is apparently Scott and everyone who likes Dawn is apparently Noodle. Even though these two girls fanbases are huge and consist of the bulk of the anime fanbase.
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>>26133434
Only autistic retards like the dyke
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>>26133434
I'm a Donphan
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>>26133463
And everyone who likes Serena is Ash
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>>26133434
are you Noodlerama tho

can you prove you're not Noodlerama
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>>26133513
I'm CIA.
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>>26133528
Noodle doesn't come here. The only time he does is when someone from tumblr links him to a post here.
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>>26133434
Kek already spoke and judged, you're opinion a shit.
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Reminder Spurt! is arguably the best intro (other than XYZ).
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>>26133611
That's not Ready Go.
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>>26133616
that's not Battle Frontier
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I'm still partial to Advance Adventure because the theme sounds so similar to the original Dragonball theme song, "Find those Dragonballs!"
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>>26133624
Objectively correct opinion.
>>
The first one to talk GETS TO STAY IN MY AIRCRAFT
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Noodle if you're reading this give it up. Pearl was brother/sister based and Amour has a lot of canon support. Pearlfags being jealous of Amourfags is so sad.

Noodle give it up
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>>26133369
I think it's a shame the Tripokalan's were so far and few inbetween, but I think it just made it even better when we did have them. Battling or not, the performances in Tripokalan's were far more visually impressive then anything we got from Contests before, especially those last few.
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>>26133718
Get em on board I'll call it in.
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>>26133718
Any pairing other than amour are cancer
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>>26133780
You don't get to bring friends.
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>>26133724
Well it obviously has to do with XY's animation being above all previous series. Which is why I wish we got to see Serena battle. If Serena was an active battler with XY's animation...she would probably easily give us the best battles for a female lead in the series. But sadly since Serena rarely battles and there aren't any in her goal eps, you can't say that.
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>>26133822
>Implying bonnie would be happy with such a queer like clemont
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>>26133822
Reminder.
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>>26133987
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So this is the most lewd scene in Pokémon?
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>>26134053
SPOILER THAT SHIT!
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>>26134071
But it's already hidden under a spoiler, you dumbfuck
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>>26134096
>having spoilers enabled
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we dead?
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>>26134119
>allowing shameful lust in a Christian blue board

Anyway, I'm wondering if Diantha "coincidentally" found Ash like Alexa did or if she just coincidentally found him.
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Why has Greninja been pure edge since he evolved? Even Charizard had silly moments.
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>>26134511
he's lived a hard life anon
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>>26134511
Greninja is so fucking boring. It has zero personality. It's just a battling machine.
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It sucks being a full Evo and still being a manlet
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>>26134511
That's just Greninja's personality, plus most of Charizard's silly moments were earlier when the series was sillier in general.
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>>26134475
>>26134475
I think there is no room for coincidentality.
When you search across the Kalos for foreign hot af kid with sick hairdo all hands point in one direction.

>yfw the sole reason Alexa "coincidentally" acquainted Ash was because she wrote a column about him back during DP, and tried to find out what happen to that 'literally runner up'
>and after she saw him at his worst, she decided to help him getting back in shape
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>>26134528
Ahh, you're here. Time to go to bed then.
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>>26134511
>im-fucking-plying
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>>26134528

It's far from "boring," but it is one dimensional.

I was hoping he'd be more chuuni.
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>Rather plain looking in comparison to other cute girls

>No noticeable assets like with May's boobs or Dawn's tiny frame and lewd main outfit

>No worthwhile outfits to stand out her plain looks

>Not even a decent battler

So it's only because of her love for Ash?
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>>26134662

>no noticeable assets

nigga
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>>26134662
Jared from Subway is that you?
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>>26131805
hes 10
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>>26134664
>>>/trash/
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>>26134662
Ash explains it on pic related
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>>26134662
>Dawn's tiny frame
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>>26134721

>spicposting

can you not
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>>26134762
I think that's just him replying to himself now.
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>>26134721
I beg of you to not post this again.

It makes me cringe.
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>>26134662
>>No noticeable assets like with May's boobs or Dawn's tiny frame and lewd main outfit
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>>26134662
She could keep her long hair and wear a better outfit, but that doesn't protect her against shitty writing of course.
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Serena is the only other girl with enough boobage to fill May's outfit.
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>>26134558
So Greninja was trying to give Clemont a paraplegic Luxray.
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>>26134694
Nice headcanon, faggot.
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>>26134827
I'm afraid not, her breast size has been too inconsistent to consider them near May's size.
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>>26134813
You're full of shit like always.
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>>26134813
fuck off degenerate
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>>26134833
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>>26134841
>headcanon
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>>26134859
This reminds me of all those Luxrayfags who actually thought prior to Greninja that Clemont could beat Ash.
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>>26134868

He could beat Ash. He would have won if Ash didn't have the challenger advantage of switching out. Heliolisk would wreck Goodra and Luxray would sweep the rest.
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>>26134886
>Pikachu switches out Pikachu for Goodra against Heliolisk
>take out challenger advantage and you get Pikachu vs. Heliolisk
>Ash would have still won
Weak stuff
>>
Whats your season ranking from better to worse?.

For me is
XY>DP>AG>OS>BW
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>>26134886
>pikachu was out in the field first
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>>26134919

>Pikachu would beat Heliolisk

No confirmation of this at all. Conjecture.

The advantage was when he switched out Goodra mid-fight when it was getting thrashed.
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>>26134868
Probably could of if Clemont had more for him other than the weak Magnemite/Magneton. Clemont made his strategy specifically against Ash, so Goodra wasn't part of the calculations.
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I think Heliolisk could have easily beat Pikachu because it's faster + can heal itself. Add to that Pikachu has nothing it can really use on it (3/4 moves get resisted)
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>>26134966
It really wasn't working then, since Bunnelby still got thrashed and so did Heliolisk.

Luxray was fighting a Pikachu and Hawlucha that already took a lot of damage while he himself had set up something so his attacks were even stronger.

Once Luxray got to Goodra he couldn't do anything and Goodra only ever looked like he took any real damage after Bide got used.
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What's with all the porn on /vp/?
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>>26134951
>Pikachu on the field
>even if Pikachu lost Hawlucha would have been next because Ash saw what Heliolisk did
>battle would have had the same end result
Fuck out of here with your bait.
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Watching megabowl 2 for the 2nd time, didn't Ash mimick Ashninja's pose before Cut?
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>>26134937
Since XY/XYZ is still ongoing

DP > AG > BW > OS
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>>26134989
/tv/ probably

they usually get them roaming around every so often
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>>26134937
DP > OS > XY > Johto > AG >>> BW
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>>26134989
Our friend woke up and he's spamming the board with porn. The usual.
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>>26135013
nah man like I said this shit happens on /tv/ occasionally they must've found us

don't know why I mean they could do better than to deposit their collections to us
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>>26134951
if a hawlucha who was type advantaged beat helioisk, Pikachu would do the same with the same strategy. Clemont stood no chance.
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>>26134937
Personally

XY=DP>AG>=OS>BW

I put AG above OS only really because of Battle Frontier tbqh.
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>>26135020
It happens on /tv/ but the only time it happens here is when you got the one guy.
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>>26134886
even if clemont had the same advantage of switching out, it would have made no difference. so no, he wouldn't have won.
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>>26134990

You have it completely backwards. If it wasn't a gym battle they could BOTH switch, meaning Clemont could switch Luxray in when he needed to. The battle you're describing where no one can switch doesn't exist.

The point is Clemont was clearly strong enough to beat Ash, but it wasn't a normal battle and he was restricted.

>>26135021

Heliolisk is faster than Pikachu. It couldn't use the same strategy.
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>>26135058
A big guy?
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>>26134937
DP/XY > Kanto > AG > Johto > BW

Depending on how XY ends I might place it above DP, but so far they're mostly equal if you view the pros and cons of both.
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>>26135063
>Heliolisk is faster than Pikachu
Not with quick attack.
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>>26135063
You have it backwards because it would have still ended the same way with Bunnelby and Heliolisk leaving only Luxray.
Fuck out of here with the bait.
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>>26134793
>boobs are squished together between her arms
muh dick
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>>26135066
Smallest guy on the plane.
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>>26135121

>Clemont switches out Heliolisk for Luxray against Hawlucha
>Clemont wins

This isn't that difficult to understand, I don't know why you're being intentionally obstinate.
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>>26134835
Look like he is on a bowling.
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>>26135135
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>>26135104

Doesn't hit for a fraction of HJK, or even Karate Chop, which he bulked. His only option is Iron Tail which always has a stupid long windup.
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>>26133434
I just laugh at Noodle and his Ikarishipping minions for being delusional enough to think Dawn is straight.
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>>26135146
>Ash switches Hawlucha for Goodra against Luxray
>Clemont switches again
>then Ash does
>result is still the same
You're just pretending to be retarded at this point.
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>>26135174
but who does Dawn truly want

Zoey or Cynthia
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>>26135193
She just want to have fun no mather the pussy.
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>>26135193
It's not who Dawn wants.

She doesn't get a choice.
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>>26135193
Dawn is lesbian for everyone. She was even crushing on May for a while in the Wallace Cup.
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>>26135168
>Doesn't hit for a fraction of HJK
conjecture. so no.
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>>26135177

Yes, it's almost like they both could have won if they chose the right matchup. The difference is Ash had the option to change his mind, even when he chose the wrong matchup switching Goodra in against Heliolisk. Hence the advantage.
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>>26135203
>>26135211
>>26135218
I support a harem
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>>26135174
>>>/lgbt/
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>>26135193
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Its actually funny that people deny that Dawn was blatantly lesbian or at least bisexual. She rejected every boy who came onto her (both Kenny and Conway), she showed no interest in Ash beyond friendship, and she had a ton of girls interested in her or her interested in other girls. She even got along with Iris for goodness sakes.

Look at all these lesbian Dawn ships:

Dawn/Zoey, Dawn/May, Dawn/Cynthia, Dawn/Iris, Dawn/Ursula. And Dawn/Serena is also popular too.
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>>26135222

>conjecture

Are you retarded? 40 BP off Pikachu's attack vs 390 BP off Hawlucha's attack. Yes the anime takes liberties, but even they acknowledge that kind of power difference.
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>>26135252
Why did she let him go? ;_;
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>>26135227
No because Pikachu could take out the two, Bunnelby losing to either Hawlucha or Pikachu.
The advantage had nothing to do with it as Clemont would have lost anyway. Pretend to be retarded elsewhere.
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>>26135174
>minions
His powerlevel means nothing.
>>26135193
Neither, they want Dawn.
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>>26135266
Why she left again? It was because the buneary right?
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>>26135252
fuck off
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>>26135267

And Luxray could take out the two. Also

>Pikachu could take out Heliolisk

Nice headcanon.
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>>26135281
Don't be mad Dawn wants girls instead of boys.
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>>26135266
because that one fashion bitch wanted Buneary and was never fucking seen again in her BW special
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>>26135261
>>applying game logic to anime
and no, you don't know that for certain thus its a conjecture.
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>>26135252
homophobic shitlords baka
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>>26135282
>Heliolisk could take out pikachu

Nice headcanon
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>>26135281
Your waifu is a dyke

Get over it
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>>26135282
Yes, you have quite the nice headcanon there. >>26135121
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>>26135288
>>26135301
it's because it's a scottpost you nignogs
>>
Dawn is a lesbian. Serena would probably also be a lesbian if Ash didn't exist.

Misty and May are likely straight. Iris is whatever.
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>>26135309
Indeed you have
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>>26135294

>they literally espouse game logic the entire fight
>"Karate Chop is super effective"
>"Wild Charge has recoil"
>"Parabolic Charge drains HP"
>n-no it doesn't count

It KO'd Heliolisk because it was a super effective 130bp + STAB. Meanwhile Quick Attack didn't even KO Bunnelby, an unevolved normal type.

You're basically arguing that it would KO him if the anime went full retard and contradicted itself during the fight. Well done.
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>>26129839
>SOON
alright, see you wednesday. boy do I love being four episodes behind
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>>26133724
>Serena spinning around like a moron
>moving her arms up and down like a moron
>always in the middle of a ring of fire

It got old, fast. Her only *good* performance was the one in the finals of the Master Class, the others are just meh.

If not for camera angles and XY animation, these would be horrible. I much prefer the appeals we got in Contests.
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>>26135322
Who cares, dawn is still a rug muncher
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>>26135266
So she could shit on him later.
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>>26135300

I'm not arguing either, I'm saying it's indecisive therefore pointless to argue. You could just as easily say Heliolisk would KO both Pikachu and Goodra so it's meaningless. I'm arguing based on the matchups we know, and saying Clemont had the means to win if he could also switch accordingly like Ash.
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Only a lesbian would wear an outfit like this.
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>>26135353
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>>26135343
;_;

Tomorrow hopefully
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>>26135356
Even if he could he would have still lost.
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>>26130907
Translation Please!
It's Yuri Time!
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>>26135356
No because Ash could switch aswell. You're basically saying that Clemont could only win if Ash couldn't switch.
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>>26135359
No wonder why hainchu is so obsessed with her

>>26135366
H-hype?
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>>26135359
That means nothing, it's not canon material.
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>>26135366
SEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>26135366
Take your time, Adamant. Don't listen to these faggots, they don't know how long subbing takes.
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>>26135340
>You're basically arguing that it would KO him if the anime went full retard and contradicted itself during the fight. Well done.
Where do you think you are? Anime logic has always been full retard. Nice try.
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>>26135366
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>>26135380
It says:
Shut up Juan, go back to learning English first.
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>>26135388
Hainchu is probably a lesbian herself especially with what she draws.
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>>26135384
Even if Ash couldn't when Clemont would if you go by the order of things Ash would have still won.
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>>26135407

No it hasn't. I literally explained to you how the fight consistently used game logic. If Heliolisk bulked Karate Chop he would be far less phased by Quick Attack.

>>26135384

Ash kept Hawlucha in against Luxray, what makes you think he would switch back to a paralyzed Goodra? In fact he used it last, only because he was backed into a corner. If Clemont could switch Heliolisk out against Hawlucha, he would have won. That's my point, either could win depending on the matchup.
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>>26135421
THE URGE TO LICK NAVEL

UUURRRGGGHH
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>>26130907
>>26135380
>Millefeui: Don't just focus entirely on Satoshi, give me the time of your day every now and then too, huh?
>Serena: Hey, hey... What are you saying? Millefeui... ugh... geez
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>>26135457
No, you're saying that in just one specific case if Clemont could switch out would make Clemont win and in every other case Ash would win.
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Apparently Swanna Girl isn't the only one to cry when she loses.
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>>26135478
Millefeui = Zoey
Serena = Dawn
I love Yuri!
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>No moment where Eureka's imagination ends and fades to white as Lemon and Orange inch closer to kiss

Dammit!
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>>26135501
Milliefeui is more like Ursula retard
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>>26135479

The fuck are you talking about? I gave one example. Another would be if he switched Luxray in first against Pikachu, and also set up Electric Terrain for Heliolisk, which would probably win him the fight against Hawlucha.

There are several possible scenarios, it just played out in a way where Ash won, largely because he could switch and Clemont could not.
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>>26135501
>Being a /u/fag

>>>/u/
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>>26135496
Whenever Elle wins, everyone cries.
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>>26135512
I'm talking in a Yuri scene, idiot
Zoey was the "man" in her Shipping with Dawn
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>>26135501
Yes, sadly May's potential lesbian love interest only appear in one 2-parter and that's it. I guess the writers wanted May to be straight.
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>>26135457
>No it hasn't.
Someone obviously doesn't keep up with the pokemon series.
Its not just any Quick attack, Its Pikachu's. You have no idea how many times this Pikachu has broken the gaming logic. Pikachu's attack would just be as strong as any.
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>>26135351
>m-muh headcanon
Certainly, you need to do something better with your time.
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>>26135536
Is it really summer already?
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>>26135551
Isn't headcanon, it's just the truth
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>>26135526
What the fuck are you even talking about? All the matchups would have ended with Ash winning because Clemont specifically designed his team to try and counter Ash but even then the matchups go against Clemont. Luxray is the only thing but even that would have ended with Goodra vs. Luxray because you're talking about Ash not switching while Clemont being able to. Ash's team order would be Pikachu, Hawlucha and then Goodra.
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>>26135555
Quads confirm for being summer.
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>>26135549

Please stop being dumb. Heliolisk was clearly more powerful than Bunnelby, and Bunnelby wasn't badly hurt by QA, while Helio was KOd by HJK. QA hasn't KOd anything at all in XY, if ever.
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>>26135566
I wonder if the writers would have pushed Appeal even harder if it wasn't a same sex pairing. They probably had to remain a bit ambiguous with it rather than making it blatant like Amour or how Contest got at the end of AG.
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>>26135526
ash would have won either way so stop it Bonnie.
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>>26135555

>All this autistic talk about brobowl
>/u/ fags spamming their shit

Looks like
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>>26135608
And then there's you who starts it all the time.
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>>26135608
>implying this hasn't always been a popular ship here
Cool falseflag
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>>26135542
May is a Pokégirl for men (dreams)
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>>26135639
You're right, it isn't.
Back to >>>/u/, scum.
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>>26135639
>Pairing serena with anyone who isn't ash
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Wednesday night can come fast enough.
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>>26135670
Millefeui is free for all.
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>>26135660
Yes, May was made for boys. Her body would be wasted on another woman.
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>>26135582

And I just described a scenario where Clemont would have beaten that order.

You keep saying that Ash would have always switched to the right matchup, yet like I said he kept in Pikachu and Hawlucha against Luxray despite being able to switch. So if Clemont could have saved Heliolisk the way Ash saved Goodra, he very likely would have won, seeing as how Goodra couldn't land a hit on it.

I'm not saying Clemont was guaranteed to win if they could switch, I'm saying he COULD have won if the order was different I explained precisely how. It's the same way that Ash could have beaten Tobias if he had sent out Heracross > Sceptile to beat Darkrai, then Pikachu to draw with Latios, then Gible to sweep. He had the power to win, it just didn't turn out that way.
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>>26135593
>>seriously arguing on anime logic
You don't know for sure whose stronger. I'll humor you and say QA wouldn't take down Heliolisk at the first go.
Ash would still use the strategy of waiting for the timing of Heliolisk's pause to counter attack. I'll even say that Ash would still wreck Heliolisk with Iron tail since we don't for sure how fast Pikachu can get it going.
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>>26135670
YOU'RE NOT EVEN GOOD ENOUGH TO BE MY FAKE
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>>26135600
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>>26135722
I'LL MAKE YOU MAKE YOU EAT THOSE WORDS
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>>26135729
The writers trying to shoehorn Nando into Dawn's arc felt so awkward. Nando and Dawn never even battled in a Contest.
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>>26135729
Harley was such a best.

I loved how triggered he got over getting told his cookies weren't half bad.
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>>26135717

Why do you think Clemont would fall for it twice? Also he could fuck him up with Dragon Tail, which even sent his fatass pseudo flying. He stuck to range against Hawlucha because it was faster, but Helio is faster than Pikachu. He could just beat the shit out of him.
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>>26135695
That scenario of yours still has Ash winning because Ash would have figured something mid-battle.
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>>26135765
He had more reason to hate May but all of them were petty.
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>>26135765
Harley's interactions with May were the best.
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>>26135729
>no Shauna/Millefeui for any of this
>instead it's a night scene with Ash and Serena
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>>26135799
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>>26135769
>Why do you think Clemont would fall for it twice?
uh, why did you think Ash even had to explain it to him? He wouldn't have figured it out till the end and that would be too late. Ash clearly jobbed his strategy.
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>>26135809
>he makes a better May than May
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>>26135695
That is like saying, If the trainer wasn't CLEMONT, Ash would have lost.
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>>26135805
I´m also glad I was never and Advancecuck or a Pearlfag, I took time for me to ship Ash with a girl but I´m glad someone like Serena finally come.
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>>26135816
Have more
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>>26135827
I don't see what difference it makes. A lot of current Amourshippers are people who shipped Ash with either May or Dawn prior. Its not like we're all sitting here disappointed, some of us can move on from ship to ship.
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>>26135849
>I don't see what difference it makes

Aside serena being superior and reached more far than both of them?
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>>26135885
Many Advanceshippers see Amour, Serena and the XY series to be the second coming of Advance, May and AG. So many similarities between the two characters, ships and sagas, only this time Serena's crush is blatant.

If you watch the early AG episodes May and Serena's characters have very similar starts and interactions with Ash. It feels like Serena is the reincarnation of May with blonde hair.
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>>26135813

He asked because the fight was over anyway. Again, your entire argument rests on QA being even remotely as effective in HJK in that fight, as in ending the fight before he could adapt. They specifically commented on fighting moves being super effective, while QA didnt even hit a weaker normal type that hard. Not to mention Helio being faster than Pikachu thus having more options.

I'm not saying he was guaranteed to win, but he more than had the means.

>>26135823

No, because Clemont was clearly the winner in certain matchups. He just didn't have the option to change the matchup, he had to just go with it.
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>>26135885
Yeah, I mean Ashxany main girl is fair I guess but I really don´t see the comparision between Advance and Amour, specially if you take in account how much Contestshipping was pushed.
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Clemont got BTFO at the brobowl, accept it
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pokeshipping unites us all
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>>26135934
Go to sleep, Misty
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>>26135907
They don't Scott, you're just a retard.
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Why is Sushi so slow? bitter about Clemont losing the Ashbowl?
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>>26135914
He only won certain matchups because of an altered order that wouldn't even occur in any other scenario.

In other words, you're full of crap.
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>>26135933
m8 we already have

Clemont lost Ash got a badge they're bros what more do you want
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>>26135961
What else?
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Part of me wishes the two parter Mima talked about was unrelated to Flare, something like a flashback of the summer camp
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>>26135966

Why the hell not? Ash switched out Goodra when it got hurt. Clemont could have switched out Heliolisk when it got hurt. That's not an unreasonable scenario, he just didn't have the option in the context. A different order altogether isn't unreasonable either.

The original claim was that Clemont didn't have the means to beat Ash, but I explained how he did.
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>>26135914
He wouldn't need to ask if he knew. And I never said QA was effective, if Heliolisk took a couple of that damage it would be finished. Besides The whole battle rested on Clemont's strategy. The moment Ash found that loop hole, Clemont was finished.

He may have had the means, but the trainer was Clemont.
If it was Alain, perhaps the outcome would change.
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>>26136003
He said it would have a really intense battle.
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>>26136006
>>Clemont had the means
Not with HIS strategy.
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>>26136027
>yfw its ash vs serena arguing
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>>26136013

>Alain

Alain uses a plot-armored mon that beat a mega fire type with Flamethrower and Blast Burn alone. Nothing that he does shows him to be a particularly skilled battler.

Meanwhile Clemont matched a stage 3 fire starter with a stage 1 grass starter, beat his own ace with a newly caught Bunnelby, after also beating a Diggersby with it, and then matching Pikachu with it, and Hawlucha in sparring, and was the only one who could beat Ash's broken pseudo, with Heliolisk. His mons are stronger than they have any right to be.

>the moment Ash found that loop hole, Clemont was finished

Yes, because as soon as he found that loophole, he used a 1HKO attack. You can't say it would be the same for Pikachu.
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>>26136070
>Alain uses a plot-armored mon that beat a mega fire type with Flamethrower and Blast Burn alone. Nothing that he does shows him to be a particularly skilled battler.
>Meanwhile Clemont

stopped reading there
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>>26136070
this bait
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>>26136090

There is a clear difference between "CHARIZARD, HIT HIM HARDER" and Clemont's use of tactics in the battles I mentioned.
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>>26136070
It's not if its a 1-KO move. If Clemont didn't figure out a way around his strategy he still would have lost. it's that simple.
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>>26136070
If Charizard has plot armor then you gotta complain about Luxray, it was the only mon that got wins and was given to Clemont just for the gym. Sure you can say the same about Goodra but at least Ash did shit with it
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>>26136042

>it's Serena turns into essentia 2 parter
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>>26136104
He was at it yesterday too.
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>>26136153
so wait was this in the last Alain episode or what I forgot
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>>26136153
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>>26136160
vs Diantha
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>>26136175
>Diantha's face when Ash and Greninja start "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"ing in unison
>you uh
>you alright there buddy?
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>>26136125

>If Clemont didn't figure out a way

He didn't have the opportunity. That's the point.

"My Hawlucha's swiftness" was Ash's strategy, while Pikachu is not as swift, unless he uses Quick Attack, which is not remotely as strong. Iron Tail is also NVE vs Electric, so it's barely stronger, and much slower.

>>26136137

Electric Terrain alone amounted to more strategy than Alain ever used. And Luxray did shit, it nearly swept. Yes the end of the fight amounted to who had more plot armor, but my point is Clemont is a much more tactical fighter in general. Pretty much all of Alain's wins are just Charizard powering through everything.
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>>26135981
>>26136157
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>>26136206
>He didn't have the opportunity
He wouldn't have the opportunity period because it's Clemont.
i.e. You're full of shit like with the rest of your bait.
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>>26135687
May was made for boys (Fap Time)
Serena was made for boys (Waifu)
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>>26132522
>Speaks spanish
>Not a beaner
sure pedro
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>>26136206
If you had to have someone as dense as Ash explain something to you. something is already off. Thus Clemont would never have figured it out.
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>>26136246
Anon, Clemont is the dense one. Ash isn't as dense as people meme about.
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>>26136228
>Serena was made for Ash

FIFY
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Any drawfags around?

Would nice to see an Ash version of this
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>>26136206

I'll elaborate too.

vs Ayaka
>TAKE DARK PULSE TO THE FACE WHILE YOU BLAST BURN
vs Louis
>TAKE THE DRAGON RUSH, THEN SLASH AT EACH OTHER UNTIL YOU WIN
vs mega trainers
>DRAGON CLAW/FLAMETHROWER
vs Malva
>BLAST BURN REALLY FUCKING HARD

And his other fights are also "GO IN/ATTACK ALL THE SHIT." He's just hyper aggressive with no strats.
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>>26136263
But Serena is a perfect waifu for all her Fans
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Why is Squishy hiding from Diantha in the preview?
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>>26136281
No, she's a perfect waifu for Ash.

Get it right.
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>all those people shitting on Ash for releasing Goodra

what are the chances these faggots are crying when Ash released Butterfree
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>>26136300
Same reason because he hid from Alain
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>>26136241
He's probably one of those sudacas.
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>>26136305
>>26136263
Then May is perfect for Boys (Fap)
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>>26136246

He's not stupid, he was monologuing all of Ash's strategies as they happen. He wouldn't just keep using an attack that gets him hit. Also, Dragon Tail doesn't leave him open, it just wasn't an option against Hawlucha's speed.
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>>26136396

Actually I forgot something important: Heliolisk knows Bulldoze. It fucks Pikachu on the ground, and may even slow like in the games, and if he jumps to Iron Tail, he deals with it like with Flying Press. Pikachu is at a severe disadvantage.
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>>26129562
SUBS? THE FUCK?
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>>26136465
Pants are an illusion, and so are subs.
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>>26136465
Adamant said tomorrow.
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>>26136396
>>26136460
Clemont isn't stupid, you on the other hand are apparently.
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>>26136373
Then Drew comes along.
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>>26136491
Bonnie pls
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>>26136509
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>>26136460
>>the moment you began speculating Clement's Heliolisk knows bulldoze.
Now you are just bullshitting like an ape. Go live in a zoo.
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>>26136543
It did know it back when Clemont was trying to take back the gym from Clembot, but Clemont replaced it and Thunderbolt with Flash and Thunder Wave in preparation for the gym battle.
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>>26136487
so motherfucking slow nowadays
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>>26136543
It's his usual shitposting.
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>>26136491
Bonnie get out, this site is for grown ups.
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>>26133434
The problem is that they have inferior tastes for not accepting the one and only true queen Serena.
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>>26133822
I think he means any pairing involving Ash.
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>>26134662
>no noticeable assets
Serena is the whole package.
>not even a decent battler
Because that's not her thing. Performers aren't all about battling if anything at all.
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>>26134937
I like your ranking, except I'd swap AG for OS, so:
XY>DP>OS>AG>BW
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>>26136543

>chimps out at the very notion that Ash could reasonably lose to a really good trainer
>I'm the ape

Why is /padt/ so defensive
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>>26136865
>Why can't people accept my opinion as fact without any backtalk at all?
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>>26136873

Responding and screeching autism are two different things.
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>>26135266
Because she realized dicks weren't for her, specially since Serena had called dibs on Ash's several years prior.
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>>26136917
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>>26136865
>>26136892
Meanwhile you present crap and try using that as an opinion.
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>>26136929
I get the feeling Appeal would have been more popular if Zoey's personality was more entertaining. Zoey was a bit too dull at times for my tastes, if she had more humor to her I probably would have enjoyed they dynamic more.
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>>26135243
>>26135252
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>>26136937

>spic trying to formulate an insult

Embarrassing
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>>26135501
>implying Serena is into anybody else other than Ash
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>>26136873
because opinions are not facts you retard
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>>26136986
Isn't there some sort of saying that a girl who wears a guys hat is her lover or something? I think I remember hearing this in my psychology class in College, but it was a few years back so I don' t remember
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>>26135907
To be honest besides Iris, May is the one I saw least hints of any romantic interest with Ash, seriously.
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>>26136960
>projecting this hard
Embarrassing.
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>>26135981
What's Clermont more assblasted about? Losing Ash or losing Serena?
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>>26136999
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>>26137012
Losing ash, what else?
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>>26136990
You are probably just drunk
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>>26137011

>using words wrong

Only proving my point pham.
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>>26136999
Its because May came directly after Misty, and the writers didn't want to start a new major Ash ship right away. That and May's arc was aimed at girls so having a boy like Drew there which resembles shoujo manga made sense.

Ash and May did have their various moments though. The writers knew people would ship them anyway so we got a bone thrown our way every now and then
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>>26136990
Psychfag here. I think it was if a guy lets a girl wear his hat she's special to him.

although now that I think about it Serena didn't really have Ash's permission, so to say
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>>26136960
>>Embarrassing
yeah your argument and existence.
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>>26137038
>he didn't disapprove

Close enough fampai
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>>26136990
It sounds a little silly for a saying, but perhaps it's real, heh.
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>>26137038
Serena didn't have his permission but he didn't get uppity about her wearing it like he had with others.
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>>26137038
But she just did it, so yanderena confirmed?
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>>26137033
No, it's pretty obvious you're our friendly neighborhood shit poster who shit posts the days away who happens to be sudaca.
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>>26137067
meh, hat or no hat. She's still special to him
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>>26137038
He never complained about her wearing his hat, or his entire outfit even.
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>>26136560
proves the point of not having it for the gym battle.
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>>26137090
I try to be fair about it. If something between them isn't right I'll acknowledge it. I don't play dumb like some of these other amourfags do.
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>>26137038
I think Serena's handled his hat more times than any other girl.
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>>26136396
Pathetic. I've already explained this. Try again.
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>>26137079

>no actual response to anything ever
>desperate meaningless accusations instead

See, THAT'S how you know someone is a samefag. And you're the same fag who does this every goddamn time. Please fuck off.

in before some variation of "no u"
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>>26137079
>Gen 5 Ace Trainer girl disguises herself
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>>26136929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg7Fwg6Ue58
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>>26137108
Have any of the other girls ever handled his hat period? I don't remember from the top of my head.
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Speaking of Dragon Tail, kinda weird it doesn't force a switch out.
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>>26137037
This, Drew is literally a mix between Mamoru and Shaoran.
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>>26137111

You said he would NEVER figure out the strategy before Pikachu beats him, because he asked Ash about it after. That implies that he's dense, when he was calling every other strat, and that Pikachu could employ that strat even nearly as effectively as Hawlucha, which he can't. Clemont would have way more than enough time to analyze it, and the conditions may not even warrant it since he could be fighting it differently with Dragon Tail and whatnot.

You make it out to be clear cut in Pikachu's favor and that's horseshit. He's clearly at a disadvantage.
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>>26135729
>>26135799
>>26135809
>>26135829

So is this dude gay or what?

What a fruit-loop. . .
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>>26137107
Did i ever tell you the definition of a "good match"?
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>>26137131
Whirlwind didn't do that either, I recall only Roar causing that like when Suicune used it on Eusine's Alakazam, I don't remember Volt Switch doing that either.
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>>26137113
Trying to accuse me of same fagging to hide yours.

Okay. Not like you haven't done this before.
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>>26137167
Volt Switch would have Emolga hit with a bolt attack, fly backwards and have some random Pokemon pop out when she tagged Iris.
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I still lament Fennekin's face on this one.
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>>26135765
>filthy attention whore
>fucking ruined everything for someone just because they said his cookies weren't 'half bad', still held a grudge afterwards

Oh man, I hated him with a passion. Fucking cunt.
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>>26137175
Ah yeah that's what happened, I don't think they ever used moves like U-Turn or Baton Pass either.
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>>26137175
Though this was explained as being that specific's Emonga's highly unusual variant of the move.
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>>26137168

You accuse every poster you don't like, despite completely different content and posting styles, of being the same person. Ironically, this consistent faggotry outs you as the samefag. Or maybe an equally retarded faggot, I don't know. But either way, fuck off.
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Stop
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>>26137128
There was May pulling Ash's hat on his face before Brock join, but I think that was it.
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During the League Ash uses his Pokemon that are with Professor Oak.

One of those Pokemon gets to evolve once during it's fight at the League?

Who do you choose?
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>>26137199
Hammer Time!
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>>26137160
You're looking at it.
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>>26137226
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>>26137038
He smiled when he put his waifu-scented hat back on
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>>26137196
>You accuse every poster you don't like, despite completely different content and posting styles
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>>26137149
He wouldn't by the time Pikachu beats it. You underestimate ash's pikachu. Even if he did go with Dragon tail Pikachu would overpower it due to his experience with mega lucario. Fighting with dragon tail just makes it more of an advantage for pikachu.
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>>26137196
>different content and posting styles
>on the internet where it can be easily forged
u wot
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>>26137250

I'm accusing a poster with the exact same content and posting style every time, you fucking idiot.

Also
>some variation of no u
There it is.
Even when it makes no fucking sense, there it is. Like clockwork.
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>>26137218
Corphish or Gible
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>>26137276
corphish
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Right then, move over:
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>>26137308
>>26137308
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>>26137247
Ash and Serena both had a shit-eating grin then.
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>>26137299
>implying Ash would struggle with her weight
>the same Ash who carried a Larvitar like it was sand, and a Hippopotas by its head, or pic related
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>>26137337
>implying he wouldn't struggle making sure he's being as delicate as he can when carrying Serena
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>>26137354
I think she prefers it rough.
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>>26137252

I'm gonna be specific here, but that Dragon Tail sent Goodra flying while it manmoded Luxray's Wild Charge. You could argue type effectiveness, but the show uses knockback to convey sheer power rather than types, as seen when Frogadier's Aerial Ace didn't knock Grovyle back.

Iron Tail is strong but it didn't really damage Lucario, it was the fall that hurt him because Korrina insisted on clashing, while Heliolisk had no qualms with dodging and creating openings. Heliolisk is faster in general, and even when Pikachu has openings it couldn't capitalize on them nearly as well as Hawlucha.
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>>26137417
Clemont would lose because it is him.

You're just purposely being retarded.
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>>26137417
arguing against knock back is meaningless. It's animation quality. You really didn't make your point. You argued against dragon tail but Pikachu clearly overpowers Heliolisk. Speed is nothing the moment pikachu lands a hit.
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>>26137218
Palpitoad and/or Gible.
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>>26137473

Animation conveys everything. You are basing your argument about Pikachu's strength based on its animations. And based on all of that I'm saying Pikachu won't have enough, especially since type effectiveness mattered this fight.
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>>26137513
Don't compare me to you. Pikachu overpowered mega lucario through its strength. If you are going to bring animation into this. Pikachu's iron tail ripped apart Gardevior's shadowball in the opening. and it was not any gardevior it was a Champions. Heliolisk wouldn't do shit.
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>>26137551

Opening isn't canon. I only go by things that actually happened in the show.

You must be going by animations, because if you're going by game logic then you have even less of an argument for Pikachu's strength.

Like I said, Pikachu was using fall momentum to strengthen his attack. It was a talking point in the fight. Korrina tried to clash with everything but Clemont is comfortable hit and running with fucking strong Dragon Tails, which he can easily pull off with his speed.
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>>26137641
well duh. the issue is that you are going by game logic which is already the problem for the series. You never do that.

It was not any Pikachu Clemont was facing, it was Ash's. Heliolisk wouldn't have won because it was Clemonts. Pikachu easily overpowers it. That simple.
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>>26137696

I'm going by both anime and game logic just like the fight. It had a lot of game logic. Ash needed a Pokemon to outspeed Heliolisk, so consistently with game logic, he picked Hawlucha. Type effectiveness was a consistent factor. Move power was consistent. Move properties and abilities were consistent. And I've explained how the anime aspects support my point.

>It was Ash vs Clemont so Clemont had to lose

I don't know why you're even arguing if you're just going to resort to "muh plot armor."
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>>26137795
Then Its settled. Clemont didn't stand a chance. Your argument was all over the place obviously you wouldn't get consistent feedback.
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>>26137886

>then it's settled

The original claim was that Clemont couldn't have beaten Ash. Yes, if you're going to use "plot" as an argument, then nothing that didn't actually happen in the plot could have possibly happened. Yet that doesn't stop this thread from constantly discussing hypotheticals.

The implication was that Clemont wasn't strong enough to beat him, when clearly his Pokemon were strong enough to beat Ash's given the right matchups, just like Ash only beat him by using the right matchups. Just like how it's unfair to say that Ash wasn't strong enough to beat Tobias, when he would have if he had simply sent his mons out in a different order. Same can be said for Clemont, or if he was able to switch out his injured Heliolisk, or whatever else.

So in that vain, plot armor is not a valid argument for hypotheticals.
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>>26137924
You can say that for any battle. Its like pointing out if he knew the future he would have won, which is not saying much.
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>>26137990

He didn't need to know the future, he just needed to switch out his mon, except it was a gym battle. Or sent his ace out first, but again, gym battle. These are perfectly reasonable circumstances where Clemont could reasonably beat Ash in a battle.
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>>26138057
Again, its like saying anyone can beat anyone if they chose their cards right. Even outside the gym it probably be the same outcome but different results.
His pokemon may have been capable but if he doesn't use them at their best so he will lose. There was no way for Clemont to win, unless someone capable was training or using his team.
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>>26138182

He couldn't use them to their best because he was restricted by gym leader rules. Like I said in my first post, Ash won because he was able to switch out Goodra when it was injured. If Clemont could do the same for Heliolisk, he could have very reasonably won, given that Ash kept Hawlucha and Pikachu in against Luxray before sending Goodra last, which Helio would have cleaned up.

The notion that Clemont "couldn't beat him in a battle" is wrong. He just "didn't" beat him in that -gym- battle, using the order he did.
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>>26138229
>If Clemont could do the same for Heliolisk, he could have very reasonably won
Given, that Ash wouldn't make a switch as well. Making that switch doesn't necessarily give Clemont a win against ash you know.
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>>26138263

Like I said, he actually could have made the switch against Luxray, but he didn't. He sent in Goodra last.

I'm not saying he was guaranteed to win either way, but that he very reasonably could.
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>>26138351
The way I see it, the results would be the same. However the battle would be more of a switch battle. Even if Clemont sent his Luxray first, Goodra would probably be Ash's starting pokemon and the battle would just be another rerun.
Its not impossible to win, but could be a thin possibility.
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>>26138441

Luxray first would set up terrain for Heliolisk, which would probably let it beat Hawlucha. Ash only pulled Rain Dance out of his ass when he was backed into a corner, otherwise he could have used it against Luxray in the first place.
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>>26138491
Even if Luxray sets the battle field and made the switch, Goodra would have set up rain dance due to being paralyzed by Helio, thus switches back to Hawlucha. The same result. You don't really know whether Ash would have figured it out earlier that goodra had hydration or not.
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