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PTCG/O General: de_legacy grind edition

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old thread: >>25793675
New? Check the pastebin for advice on starting the game, client information, a guide on the various theme decks/products you can redeem in-game and more.
>http://pastebin.com/gPEnw6GW

How to progress in PTCGO, tl;dr edition:
>complete all Trainer Challenges (Cheat Engine's speedhack strongly recommended to speed up AI games)
>play through using Basic decks to unlock them for versus play
>farm Versus Mode theme ladder for Tokens and Tournament Tickets
>Enter Theme format tournaments whenever possible
>enter Standard/Expanded ticket tournaments and accept that you'll lose
>you'll get tradable tournament chests and sometimes tradable packs
>DON'T OPEN THEM
>Instead, trade them for the cards you actually want for a deck you want to build, most cards go for like 1-3 packs each.
>Public trade is like the GTS, if you want proper results, put up your own offers.
>if you don't know what deck you want to build yet, see http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/tcg-competitive-play.156/ or check out tournament results for a list of viable decks

To see what your PTCGO stuff is worth, look on the PTCGO forums in the trading section. For example, Top Cut Trading inc
>http://forums.pokemontcg.com/topic/25163-the-top-cut-trading-inc-2/
provides an approximation.

Tips for Code Giveaways:
>Post them as an image with the QR code covered. Don't just post it as plain text because of bots lurking threads

>Your Old Cards
No one wants them

Theme of the thread: Whats your favorite legacy deck?
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>>25809442
TotT:
>tfw no legacy decks
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Theme is such a fucking crapshoot, every game is rng bullshit, you lose on the draw or coinflips so often.

There has to be a better way to get good cards.
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anyone in alabama wanna buy a shaymin ex and a full art shaymin ex
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Do the special deals like the Skiddo/Gogoat thing change weekly?

I've amassed a fair amount of coinage but don't think the current deal is worth my time.
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>>25809442
>I made a new OP last thread
>It didn't get used
my feelings
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>>25810180
I copied last threads op
>>25810083
looks like you couldn't handle the heat
if you can't stand rng cardgames are not for you
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>>25810083
Spend $10-$20 and never grind again.
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>>25810206
show me where to spend that money and I gladly will
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>>25810247
ebay, or any site/store that sells code cards.
They should be $0.15~$0.35 each, or less if you buy in bulk. You can get 50-100 for $20.
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>>25810260
everyone cites this price but I have never ever seen them close to that cheap
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>no viable deck for a pokemon of your favorite type
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>>25810247
>Ebay ''Pokemon TCGO codes''
>Find a bundle that suites you
>Buy
>Use packs to either trade for stuff you need or open for things you need
>GG

There, I bought 85 packs for 21 quid with 4 of the codes being hoopa/gyaridos/mewtwo/latios deck bundles and 1 being charizard gen box.
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>>25810312
What Pokemon?
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>>25810274
This. Average is 40-50c on ebay. Online card shops can be as much as a dollar
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>>25810329
none of the codes are that cheap, you're lying.
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>>25810274
>30 cents each:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pokemon-TCG-XY-ANCIENT-ORIGINS-VIRTUAL-ONLINE-CODE-CARD-X-50-/151745458770?hash=item2354bbf252:g:gVsAAOSw-vlVo9x-

>35 cents each:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pokemon-TCG-XY-BREAKTHROUGH-VIRTUAL-ONLINE-CODE-CARD-NEW-X-50-/151853800619?hash=item235b311cab:g:floAAOSwo6lWJPjE

>25 cents each:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200x-Pokemon-Random-Booster-Code-Cards-for-Pokemon-TCG-Online-Booster-Packs-/291723394285?hash=item43ec11bced:g:YyoAAOSwZ8ZW-sr1

If you want better prices, you either need to snipe on ebay since new listings go up daily, or go local. Most local card shops either charge as little as $0.10 each like every other common card, or sometimes they just give them away for free.
When I used to go to prereleases, I would go home with 50-100 code cards I got for free from other players.
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>>25810312
>one of my favorite mon is kyogre
>play it anyways
>do OK at locals
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>>25810362
Sorry senpai, UK best place.
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>>25810400
people only trade for breakpoint boosters right now.
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>>25810343
Poison
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>>25810441
As someone who went infinite months ago, no.
If you really want to go the ignorant elitist route, you should say "people only trade for RS or PLF". But that's also wrong.
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>>25810400
>physical shipping
I'd rather pay 15 extra cents a pack for instant
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I wonder whats in this pack?
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post pulls
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>>25810546
I call Jolteon.
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Welp, decent start so far
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Ok then!
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>>25810613
Nice!
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Uhhh wat??
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Troll and Toad's buylist says they will give me $83 for this pair. Should I jump on it or try my luck on eBay?
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>>25810712
Is this an actual question?
They sell that Kyogre for $60 and that Groudon for $62.

Legitimate question, what gave you the idea that Troll and Toad, a card vendor with readily-available card prices, is giving you a good deal?
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>>25810712
Ebay for sure.
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Is there any sort of fun deck that can be built around evee/eveelutions?
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>>25810749
Since there are already listings on ebay do I just undercut them, or should I set the price at say $110 and sell them as a pair?
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>>25810712
Omfg i want them so bad
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>>25811071
Have an offer?
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>>25811100
tree fitty
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>>25811120
Can't be givin no Kyogre tree fitty
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This shuffling is fucking cancer. Play Vileplume and my 5 card shaymin are 3 Ultra Balls and 2 level balls.
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The last time I played was around when the e-reader cards came out.
So are all the old cards unusable? When do the "legal" cards start?
What is a good set (tins, figure sets etc) to get boosters from?
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>>25811184
Next fucking game Sycamore and 4 DCE. I hate this shitty client so fucking much.
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Pack #2 coming up
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Forgot pic
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>>25811210
If you just want packs just get booster boxes, there aren't too many good promos other than yveltal hoopa and charizard I think.
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>>25811321
someone else feel free to correct me on the promo thing, I'd like to know if there's anything worth buying!
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>>25811346
Are these three card packs?
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What's a good Seismitoad EX deck for standard?
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>>25811346

this is me, not gonna post the rest of the pack. accidentally dropped it and saw it was trash

post pulls from or YOU WILL NEVER GET GOOD PULLS IN REAL LIFE OR ONLINE AGAIN!!!!
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>>25811424
Why do you post redeemed codes? The script shows it took 2.1 seconds for me to redeem them, but they were already taken.
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>>25811424

I'm curious what the trash rare was anyway. What was it?
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>>25811455
Wants attention but nobody will l love him in real life.
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>>25811460

Tauros and a RC Wally card. whatever, Im happy. I pulled a M Venu, M Char and Sylveon EX in four packs, so I will say it was a success!
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653-AU36-JRH-XK

n
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>>25811501
Generations has really good pull rates. And really cool cards too.
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>>25811501

Yea that is not bad. I got a 3 pack blister today, because I did not have the Rayquaza pin from it yet. Only notable pull was Kyogre EX from the Primal Clash pack. So you did better than me.
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So is there ever going to be any hope of buying Generations packs on their own or will they only ever be in the overpriced boxes? I hate the idea that I'm paying for so many of those damn pins when I just want the cards.
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>>25811569
You could always buy singles like a non-retard.
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>>25811578
But I like opening packs. Reminds me of being a kid.
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>>25811591
Then buy literally any other pack.
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>>25811569
http://www.pokebeach.com/2016/03/generations-elite-trainer-box

It's possible that this will be released in North America at some point.
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has the price of shaymins gone up or something on TCGO ? im offering like 28 packs and no one is biting
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>play a game
>someone post codes
>sit here and wait and pray for codes
>its dead
its been like this for about a month now
life is suffering
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Now I can stop spending all my coins on roaring skies packs
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>>25812186
what pack is it?
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>>25812346
Have you ever read in your life
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>>25812464
Have you?
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If only it was a physical pack.
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>>25812618
What does the bracelet on the left mean?
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>>25812687
lol
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>>25812687
Syncho emblems, only used in special matches.
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>>25812687
Synchro stuff, but it is irrelevant, because no one plays Radiant matches anymore.
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>>25811455

are you mad? these cards have been sitting on my dining room table all night
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>>25811578
This phrase should be in the OP
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Im thinking that Manaphy EX could work really well in a Greninja Break deck.
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>Getting this when you aren't even lagging
What???
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>>25813332
Greninja has free retreat and there are no other water types worth running.
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>>25811569
Try buying the Charizard boxes. You can sell the Charizard EX promo for 6.50 on ebay that way you are basically paying 19 dollars for 4 packa
It is a lot, but the pull rates sort of make up for it.
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forgot image
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>>25813347
Not Greninja XY tho, which is the one you should be using. At least two of them.
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>>25813378
No, XY Greninja is a scrub trap. States deck runs 1 and you honestly don't even need him, the 30 damage doesn't make the math better. Moonlight + Muscle + Giant = 180 already and Megaman's offmeta.

Greninja's one of the decks that's not going to be affected by a PC-on rotation.
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this thread is shit
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>>25813511
You're shit.
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>hand of 3 DCE
>N
>draw 4 DCE
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Boy I sure do love these mystery boxes with 1 ticket in them. So much better than the constant stream of coins and tickets before.
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>Put up a horribly wrong trade offer because I'm tired
>Just gave a Jolteon EX for a pack
fUCK
At least I still have six more, but now I can't sleep from how upset I am
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>>25814454
h-hit me up with that jolteon my man
I have like 14 packs ;~;
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>people in the threads told me not to make a deck of a certain type with the cards I had
>pick two of the cards I have
>build a deck around them with by trading some of the ~50 packs I have
>kicking ass with the deck
Fuck you, anon, I did it.
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>>25814677
poast dek
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>>25813417
>Moonlight + Muscle + Giant = 180

(60 + 20) + 20 + 60 = 160. Where is that last 20 coming from?
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What's a good box/set to buy for starting out?
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>>25815575
If anyone is here, I was wondering the same thing for two people getting into the game. Two theme decks fine to mess around with?
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>>25810712
>$60 cards
>shit pokemon company sleeves
?
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>>25815995
Buy the mewtwo vs darkrai arena deck.
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what a GREAT deal
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>>25816021
BUY NOW!!!
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>>25816010
They better than theme decks? Looking at them they seem pretty standard.
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>>25816156
They have better trainer cards.
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>>25814677
I kicked ass yesterday with a gyarados deck. All decks can kick ass, but some kick more ass than others.
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Couldn't Nintendo have released some theme decks with this set and sell a bunch on nostalgia alone? Or maybe use the set to get older peoppe back into the TCG?
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>>25816265
I was thinking that, like charizard from the set should have had the same as char from base, just for nostalgia purposes.
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>>25816314
Could have made some theme decks to look like the old ones. Update some cards so be at the same level as the current ones, and them you sell them to "90s kids" for a god profit. I know a lot of people who would have bought them to mess around with.
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>>25816265
>theme decks
They are already releasing a bunch of different products for Generations, I just got back because of generations and I wouldn't buy a generations theme deck(unless they re-released 1st edition base decks), considering I could buy a charizard box, or the mythical packs(including the pikachu and hoopa ones).
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>>25816314
this has already been done family
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I know Generations are really hard to come by, they're sold out in every store, and card shops are selling the little Mew boxes for $25, and Charizard for $40.

Will they stop printing the Charizard Box as soon as the Blastoise box comes out?

Right, I'm thicking hard if I should open this Charizard box or not.
What should I do?
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>>25816815
DO IT! Make your dreams come true
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>>25816815
Why? Are you willing to wait 5+ years to get some profit?
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>>25810778
there's golurk + eeveelutions but that's obviously built more around golurk than eeveelutions
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>>25816835
>Make your dreams come true
Alright, lets do this.
>>25816836
>Are you willing to wait 5+ years to get some profit?
Are there any known Pokemon boxes worth money?
I was planning on getting all four boxes and keeping them close for a good year or two.
Since people are already selling them for alot.

Anyway, I waited long enough, time to open this, I hope I don't regret it....
[Spoilers] If I don't pull something good, I'll quit the pokemon game for good [/spoilers]
Here's some codes wile I'm at it.
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>>25817059
> I failed
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>>25817059
I am the guys with the dreams come true thing... I just closed the game like 3 min ago so i missed all the codes. I hope at least you had some luck
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>>25817059
I got 2 XY. I think I better trade the other one. Thanks.
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>>25817059
>i missed all the codes
And no one post pulls?
It's like I don't know you guys anymore.
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Thanks for believing in me guys
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>>25817213
You got some pretty nice things...and i finally got a code. it all worked out in the end. Congratz
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>>25817213
And here is the pull
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>>25817213
>he build all 3 mega starters
this is not a coincidence
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>>25817287
Are all Charizard boxes have this good of a pull?
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>>25816424
>I just got back because of generations

How did you make a deck out of Generations? Just bought a box with boosters and made a deck?

Trying to get into the casual game for cheap.
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>>25817375
No. My friends and I bought 9 in between us and only pulled 3 EXs.
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>>25817375

Not really, I bought 2 and I only pulled 1 EX, 1 Full Art, and 2 RC Full Arts
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>>25817764
I open a Mew box and got shit, but this Charizard box was a gold mine
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>>25817375

I pulled a M Venusaur, M Charizard and Sylveon EX FA in four packs. I fucking love Generations
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Although I only did this trade for my collection, it really payed off in the long run since those Typhlosion are going to help deal with Virgen.
I still don't understand why someone would put this up on the public trade, but I'm not complaining.
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Why are cards that you win out chests non-tradeable? So bullshit.
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my best pulls from the weekend

8 Roaring Skies
2 BreakPoint
1 Ancient Origins
4 Generations

im confused as to why these EX Gen cards are worth so much when EXs are rampant in each box. Nonetheless, pretty happy!
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>>25818041
>im confused as to why these EX Gen cards are worth so much when EXs are rampant in each box. Nonetheless, pretty happy!
>ignorance
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>>25818041
>im confused as to why these EX Gen cards are worth so much
they aren't really. only the mega charizard and jolteon ex are really valuable.
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Bought 10 Charizard Red and Blue collections. No Jolteons ever ;_;
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>>25818346
There are some cute flareons there...try to enjoy them
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>>25818346
>Spent $200 on product looking for a $40 card
Am I the only one enjoying the irony?
At least you can make some of that money back.
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>>25818346
>10
I think you went a bit overboard, how were your online pulls?
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>>25818346
>10 charizard
Why not get more variety? I mean get a Celebi, A jirachi box, a Mew Box, why 10 Charizard boxes?
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>>25818367
yeah it's pretty bonkers
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>>25818346
You have too much money to waste
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Does 3 Breakpoint and 1 Breakthrough packs seem like a fair deal for 2 Trevenant-BREAKs? I have no idea what the trading situation is like online and the link in the OP keeps taking me to a Page Not Found error.
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>>25818409
Not that guy, but at the stores around me I can't find any Mew boxes, they all sold out, or any Jirachi's yet for some reason.
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>>25818471
Yeah thats fine, its normally BP and Bthrough are both kinda 1 unit then packs like Roaring skies are counted as 2 units and the rarer the pack the more units they're worth.
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>>25818496
Thanks!
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>>25818409
Charizard boxes get you four packs and a relatively valuable promo for $20
Mew/Celebi/Jirachi boxes get you two packs and a worthless promo for $12
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>>25818524
Thought all boxes gave 4 packs for some reason.
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>>25817213
>all 3 Mega starters + FA Sylveon + FA Mega garde
If you got a FA Flareon, I would literally track down where you live and make you open my boxes.
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5XV-WHMA-76X-SCD

enjoy
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>>25819129
What was it?
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>>25818346

I really like that Zapdos. I hope to pull one and an Articuno
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>>25818346
I feel bad, that I only got one box, and made my money back.
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>>25818346
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAH
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>>25818346
>No Jolteons ever ;_;
Why is Jolteon so wanted?
Is it great for a Manectric deck?
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>>25818346
>10 Charizards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmsRN78qMxM
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>>25819522
Did you read the card?
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>>25819527
>Did you read the card?
No, why would I do that?
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>>25818346

>9 EXs (main set), 1 FA, 4 RC EX, 7 RC FA, and foil energies
>Jumbo Charizard

I'm assuming you are from Europe? While the pulls are not what you call amazing, at least you didn't pull Golem or Meowstic

>>25817877

My pulls from the boxes were all over the place (I bought 2 of each)

Mew: Absolute trash, no RC FA
Celebi: M Venusaur EX, no RC FA
Jirachi: Same as Mew
Charizard: Vaporeon EX, FA Articuno, 2 RC FA
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>night march dies this September
>mrw
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>>25819661
What annoying archetype will it be replaced with?
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>>25819661
>night march cards get reprinted
>with a support card that will help you set it up faster

I'm calling it now.
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>>25819842
>annoying
You mean "Tier 1", right?
Because the only complaint against Night March is that it's a Tier 1 deck.
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>>25819860
I thought the reason people didn't like Night March was because victory is determined on turn one and playing the rest of the match is just a formality.
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>>25819860
>Because the only complaint against Night March is that it's a Tier 1 deck
sure. that's the only complaint. Riiiiight.
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>>25819880
That's not any more true than with any other deck in the meta.

>>25819887
List some.
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>>25819860
they complain because the kiddies doesn't like to see their legendaries being ripped in half by a Joltik.
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Alright, I think this is the best I'm going to get this deck to be.
It's worked well as a counter to Virgen and can hold it's own fairly well with a lot of other decks.
I'm considering adding Champions Festival to help prevent building up too much damage, but that would mean giving up Burnt Tower and weaken Outrage.
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>>25819910

>they complain because the kiddies doesn't like to see their $10+ cards being ripped in half by a 25 cents common

FTFY
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Is Tina EX and Vileplum still a good deck?
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>>25819860
It's high power low cost.

What's not to complain about?

>>25819910
This, essentially, but with less childish mockery. People don't think it's exactly fair when their Mega EX full energy sweeper is chumped by a basic common equipped with nothing but a DCE.
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>>25819968
>It's high power low cost.
So it's perfectly okay when M Fug, Greninja, Vespiquen, Entei/Charizard, Yveltal, Mewtwo, and Raichu (all of which are States-winning decks) have low-cost, high-damage attacks, but when Night March does it, it's suddenly, magically a problem.
Fuck off.
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>>25819968
>People don't think it's exactly fair when their Mega EX full energy sweeper is chumped by a basic common equipped with nothing but a DCE.
It is childish to complain about something like this. It is the literal definition of feeling entitled to win because you are using expensive cards.
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>>25820071
>feeling entitled to win because you are using expensive cards.
Welcome to the Pokemon Trading Card Game. There are plenty of balanced tcg out there, but you had to invest in the one with cartoon characters on them.
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>>25820116
From what I hear other TCG are even worse for needing expensive cards to win.
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>>25820116

>Balanced TCG

Is that even possible as a concept?
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>>25820116
If people wanted balanced they wouldn't be playing a TCG; they'd play Texas hold'em or something
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>>25820146
Yugioh is a big offender.

>Nekroz
$600
>Prophecy
$1000
>Drulers
$500
>Dracopals
$400
>Qli
$400
>Mermails
$400
>Monarchs
$50 lel
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>>25820188
>$1000 for a deck of cards
wew, lad
Do only rich people play Yugioh or something? What gives the cards so much value?
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>>25820116
It happens in all games, once I got a guy mad when playing mtg. I killed his Tarmogoyf(a $150~$200 card) with Doom Blade(a 10 cent card), and he was grumpy through the whole game.
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>>25820262

>He thinks Yugioh is expensive

Try any Magic fomrat (especially Vintage/Type 1), that is what money is made of

>What gives the cards so much value?

Supply/Demand and Konami's jewry
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>>25820262
I wouldn't say rich, it certainly helps to have some of the staples in advance to reduce the cost. The reason why competitive decks are so expensive in YGO is because konami will print the most necessary cards in the highest rarities (thus making them scarce).
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>>25820262
old sets, hard to come by.

Cards i've sold for £100 go for £250 now
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>>25820267
If he only has one Tarmagoyf, he shouldn't be using it at all. It's amazing as a four-of but lackluster as a singleton include. He should save up for the other three.
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>>25820295
Want to play Legacy? That'll be 1400$.

http://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/366660#online
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>>25820262
Magic costs way way more than that. Average standard magic deck (rotates every 6 months) is 600-1000. Modern is like 1-3k (and risks random bans of key cards) and legacy is well over 3 grand

Pokemon isn't that cheap either. Most decks run up to 3-400 in standard off the prices I've seen.

Decks that run 3 shaymins are already more than budget magic decks like RDW
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>>25820367

>He thinks Legacy MtG is expensive

LaughingVintagePlayers.gif
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>>25820308
What? I don't know how many tarmogoyfs he had in his deck, how would you know?
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>>25820295
Konami is way less jewy than wizards

They'll actually reprint high cost staples. Wizards response to people wanting reprints of high cost staples was to print them in super ultra rare quantity as to protect muh precious secondary market
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>>25820368
Standard is intended to be the budget format for magic but Magic Origins screwed everything up by releasing the flip-walker Jace, an 80 dollar mythic that every deck runs four-of. Maybe SOI will change the meta. I haven't checked back into the standard scene for a while.

Nobody plays Vintage because it's prohibitively expensive. You can either get a vintage deck to pilot or you can install a new roof for your house. That's one of the reasons I'm excited for Eternal Masters. Not including the reserved list cards is going to make the format a lot more inviting.
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>>25820368
>3-400
Most decks run $120 to $200 average in Pokemon Standard. Shaymin's the only expensive card; drop $80 on a pair, $30 for a set of VS Seekers, and then everything else is relatively cheap because Pokemon is the only card game where a playset of almost any given staple goes for a dollar.

>Decks that run 3 shaymins are already more than budget magic decks like RDW
But that's the difference, a 3-Shaymin build is probably something Tier 1. Pokemon meta decks are just a bit over MtG budget decks.
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>>25820400
>implying its not
Not him, but all mtg formats are expensive, just because of the mana base alone. Unless you play burn, but burn is an exception, not the rule.
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>>25820459
>almost a hundo right there
>ignores the rest of the staple trainers that can cost 3-4 dollars each
>and your set of breaks/ex's that are likely 20-50 each

>>25820456
What fucked up standard was fetchable duals and perfect mana
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>>25820441
Because when your goyf gets doombladed, in a deck with four, you don't bitch and moan. When it comes to be your turn you tap two mana and play your second goyf.

Goyf and DB have prices on opposite ends of the spectrum, but they have the same CMC, meaning your opponent had to pay two to get rid of your creature that costs two. From the goyf player's perspective, it's almost a good thing because you're getting your opponent to use their killspells on cheap creatures that are easy to replace.
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>>25820489
Did you miss part of the post?
$80 for a pair of Shaymin
$30 for 4 VS Seeker
$10 for a playset of literally every other trainer staple
So you're at $120 and have 75% of every single Standard deck built, now just drop another $20~$80 on your Pokemon core and you can win at States.

Meanwhile other card games have single cards worth twice an entire Pokemon deck. Look at a post like >>25820267 for an example.

And I consider that pretty cheap. $200 for a deck that will last 2+ years? Assuming you play at locals every week and each tournament lasts four hours, that's $200 for over 400 hours of entertainment with some resale value afterwards.
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Magic and yugioh are so much pricier due to demand. People play those games, very few people play pokemon in 2016. Fuck, I live in so cal and I can't find a fucking pokemon tournament/event

>>25820546
>vs seeker 30
But they're 10 each?
>syamin 80
But they're 55 each?


>10 dollars for playset of anything else
But lots of key staple trainers go for 1.50-3 dollars each?

I added up greninja break last night and it was just shy of 300, and it only uses a single shaymin and no other ex's.
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>The whole discussion on prices on general

I have to wonder is there a general "price list" for the current Tier 1 Standard Pokemon decks

>>25820486

I didn't imply Legacy was cheap because it definitely isn't, but compare to Vintage the cost is almost "trivial" by comparison

>>25820546

A playset of Battle Compressor is around $15~20 depending on where you look
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What's a good Seismitoad deck for standard right now?

It seems like the kinda deck I'd like
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I'm at the point where if I don't get the opening coin toss I just quit. Sick of going second with the worst possible starting hand every game and I just lose turn 2.
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>tfw you realize there are girls browsing this thread right now
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>>25820636

Seismitoad/Crobat, it still places well in tournaments.

>>25820656

That depends on which deck and which format, I'm fine with going second in a Legacy-format match if I'm running a TDK deck or a VirGen deck with Team Plasma Badge techs.
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>>25820704
Any deck and any format. I know the game is going to hand me a terrible starting hand every game I play, I may as well just give up since I know I'll lose if I can't at least try to get out of my guaranteed instant topdeck mode.
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>>25820527
>you are only allowed to bitch and moan if it is the only copy of the card in your deck
There was a guy at the store I used to go that wouldn't stop complaining through the whole game if his opponent played blue or control, even if he won, he wouldn't stop complaining.
There is also another story that I didn't live, but the store owner told me that once he had to ban a guy because he literally flipped the table when he lost a match, but it was a match of ygo though.
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>>25820751
to be fair, most YGO games decide the fate of the world.
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>Got this from one of my Legacy Mystery Boxes.

What.

>>25820721

A lot of people have been complaining about the RNG as of late. One has to wonder if the staff was being serious when they said they want to make the game as life-like as possible...
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>>25821068
did you really delete your post because you misspelt serious as series you fucking loser
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wtf do you guys do with those stupid Generations pins?
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>>25821107
I've been giving them to my younger siblings and cousins and shit.
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>>25821106

And you feel the need to point this out because why exactly?

>>25821107

I sell mine.
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>>25821068
Got that twice yesterday
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>>25821253
and you still need to wear a trip because why exactly?
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>>25821106
He is a tripfag, what did you expect? he thinks his opinion matters.
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>>25821258

I'm just shocked by the amount is all.
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>>25820696
>mfw I'm one of those grills
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>>25821353
Trans aren't real girls
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>>25821396
Nice try, but I'm all natural.
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>>25821406
Fatties aren't real girls either
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>>25821406
onus of proof is on you.
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>>25821406
>>
>Enemy have god hand turn one
>I have god hand
>never both playing starting with god hand
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>>25820188
>>Dracopals
>$400
The first weekend PePe was released the deck topped out at just a little less than $1100.
Top
Kek
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>>25821253
I'm quitting the game. If you take off your trip and never put it on again, I'll trade you for your online Dewford bundles at value.

Anyone else want my Shaymins, and the rest of my account? Anyone have a code for Starcraft II or some better game than this?
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>>25820295
>>25820368
Ok you fucking autists, everyone knows that Magic out prices yugioh every time. BUT it makes no sense why yugioh has cards that top out between $80-$150 each when there is no money to be made in high level yugioh.
That's right, you can be the world champ at yugioh, but you will never win actual money from doing so. Where as in Magic you can have a $3000 dollar deck but if you win or even top at a grand prix or anything higher you can win a bunch of money. Even pokemon offer schollarships at high enough play that can be cashed out for real money.
So yes, magic is always going to outprice yugioh, but, yugioh should not ever come close in price to even some of the decks because there is literally no money for playing the game... unless you are a vendor.
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>>25821666
is this a deal with the devil? What do you want for the Shaymins? I'm guessing cash? Also do you have any Charizards?
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so the gogoat offer for 900 tokens in the shop worths it?

they are not even EX cards
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>>25821759
>so the gogoat offer for 900 tokens in the shop worths it?
No, they're shit

>they are not even EX cards
Why would that affect anything?
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>>25821759
Do you want to 100% your collection? If so yes.

Do you want to win matches? If so no.
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>>25821759
EX != good card
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Does anyone have some staples that I can trade for?
I'm looking for stuff like Max potions, VS Seekers, Crushing Hammer, AZ, Cassius, Flare Grunts etc
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>>25821969
i've got 2 max potions i can trade ya
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>>25822158
Cool, add me at Siran
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>>25821699
>>25820296
There's your answer
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>>25821068
I got that too
was fucking freaking out
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>>25820696
>girls browsing
Oh wow, everyone uses the internet.
/vp/ is the only part of 4chan that gets alot of girls.
Not counting /lgbt/, those are no longer humen

Anyway, Pokemon cards is the only card game that I seen more girls at the card shop then any other, that "knows" how to play the game.
It's how I met my ex girlfriend before she went crazy.
But that's a whole other story
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>NM
>Teammate
>PoZ
I hate this game
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>>25821406
You must be new.
Isn't there a rule that all girls on the internet are guys, no matter what, until proof.

But hey, this isn't /b/, lets not get that far.
I have seen even /x/ get a girl to go naked in a ghost thread, by black mailing her.
That was a fucking weird day.
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>>25822421
How does one even get blackmailed on an anonymous series of boards? Was the "girl" retarded?
And as for this "girl" >>25821406 you can post proof without people knowing who you are.
INB4 it's Tamashii looking for attention
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>>25822389
/a/ and /soc/ get their fair amount of girls too.
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>>25822389
>It's how I met my ex girlfriend before she went crazy.
Did you get cucked bro?
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>>25822421
>>25822452
The only proof I can use is to post with my name and trip that I've used on other threads.
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>>25822452
>/x/
That should answer your question
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can anyone help me with cards to add to this Dragalge - Aegislash deck?
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what are some good stage 1 pokemon that aren't Zoroark? Preferably any that can use Lightning Energy to attack with.
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>>25822475
HOW NEW ARE YOU?
TITS OR GTFO
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>>25822500
I will once you explain what possible synergy those two Pokemon have
Protip: they have none
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>>25822504
>implying I'm that stupid
You could find photographic proof if you looked in the right places, but I'm not spoonfeeding it to you.
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>This thread
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>>25822534
Let us kill this thread.
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>>25822421
we're all 12 year old lolis anon
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>>25822527
Tamashii pls go, you're not good at pretending to be anonymous
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>>25820751
One magic player opened a $20 blue counterspell (that his friend successfully called shot on before opening) and promptly tore it in 4 pieces. The pieces were taped to the wall for over a year.
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>>25822525
poison with dragalge, then switch to double damage with aegislash, both use psychic energy
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>>25822503
thanks for the answer guys. if I told you I was a girl would you answer?
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>>25822473
Sadly yes, but I ended up with all her stuff and money so it work out.
Got a retraining order on her, so she can never come near me again.
>She also left her huge Pokemon cards, that I sold for $900 bucks.

There many girls out there, some are not worth your time to begin with.
Also, I was over weight at the time, now I have six pack abs and a good career.

Woman, take up your time and money, that you never have time for yourself.
Since she been gone, my life been better.
the break up was two months ago so it still hurts, but hey that's life
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>>25822586
it's 200 damage in 3 turns with a dc and a psychic energy
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>>25822600
>if I told you I was a girl would you answer?
We pretty much answer everyone question here, this isn't /v/
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>>25822586
Anon, this is not synergy, because Aegislash doesn't get any advantage by having your opponent poisoned by Dragalge, or Dragalge gets any advantage by letting Aegislash have its damage doubled.

Also, if you are using Aegislash for the doubled damage, he is not even using psychic energies.
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>>25822620
>answering that honestly
Wow, shitty deal man
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>>25822586
Well, Dragalge is already hitting for 180 over two turns. Throw in Faded Town and Megas aren't a problem either.

So why are you running Aegislash alongside it? What possible reason is there for running an entire separate Stage 2 line? Just so you can switch into it and do exactly what Dragalge was going to do anyways?

Again, what synergy is there? Using the same energy type means literally nothing. This isn't Magic where you slap colors together.
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>>25822600
>if I told you I was a girl would you answer?
the only reasonable answer you would get is "tits or btfo".
Because if you are refering to the transexual retard, any transexual retard can go on the internet tripfagging and claiming that there are proof somewhere on the internet.
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>>25822649
Forgot to say that we were together for 4 years.
So it wasn't easy to deal with, but when someone does you wrong, you can't cry about, life goes on.
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>>25822680
>tits or gtfo
>I can't into archives so they must be lying
>>>/v/
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>>25822652
any mon that has more synergy? it's quite literally my first deck for standard, but no shaymin, i was getting the cards for greninja break but that bastard wont come out in the coin packs nor there have been theme tournaments for packs
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>>25822706
But anon, I have proof on the archives that you are lying. tip is "retard".
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>>25822706
>wants special treatment because the person is a girl
>expects anything more than "tits or gtfo"
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>>25822158
Shit my bad, give me some minutes i'll be with you
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>>25822761
But anon, nobody is asking for special treatment for being a girl.
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>>25822778
>>25822600
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>>25822770
k bro
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>>25822788
That's a completely different poster.
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>>25822788
>the joke
>your head
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>>25822797
The guy literally posted that because a retarded transexual is trying be an attention whore like usual.
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>>25822825
>projecting this hard
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>>25822719
More synergy with what?
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>this pull
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>>25822845
>projecting
I see that it is your first time on the internet, I suggest you to lurk moar before posting.
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>every fucking reward box is a ticket
Fuck this client. I want to strangle the programmers.
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>>25822851
with dragalge? i'm gonna mark my cards that might be deck material,
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this is what i got
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5 BOXES IN A ROW, ONE TICKET.

FUCK THIS GAME.
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>>25822500
drop the Aegislash. Other anon is right, apart from the energy type, the synergy is non-existent.

Try this and tweak. Get a 3/1 split of Dragalge with the "poison can't retreat" as the 1. Repeat balls work with a split evo like this. Get some Team Aqua Muk which will both help stop the poisoned mon from retreating as well as use a psychic powered attack that hits hard if your opponent has a special condition. Add robo subs too. Lastly some switching things like float stone or Zoroark or just plain old switch & ropes.

>poison opponent
>don't let opponent retreat
>defend and wait

Low HP deck so things like Team mates, super rod, revives are all gonna be smart choices.
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>>25822503
Is this for eeveelutions?
Vespiqueen & Golurk are the obvious picks for standard. Zebstrika is colorless energy but will benefit any lightning types.
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>>25823050
could i play trevenant seeing how these packs are not in sale at the store and my problem is that i can't seem to find theme tournaments? it does the "+1 colorless retreat cost" thing
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Does anyone here actually buy single booster packs? They seem like a waste of money, and even if you play casual, you can barely play cards out of them because you don't have the evolutions needed.
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>>25823147

I only buy blisters that comes with promo cards, otherwise it is usually singles and case split with someone I know
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>>25823135
forget it, it just makes their attacks cost more, any suggestions for replacing or putting together a deck from >>25822971
one or two of these mons?
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>>25822971
just play theme for packs or buy packs and trade for good cards
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>>25823188
virtual packs or real life ones?
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>>25823224
either, if you don't play or collect physical just buy code cards though
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Pretty stoked about these pulls.
Happy jirachi month everyone! Easily best mythical.
Have a code.
Post pulls.
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>>25823313
>easily best mythical
shit taste.
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>>25823313
Oh, it starts with TKM, sorry about that.
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Why do people post codes in these threads just so the scriptfags can get them? Attention?

>>25823313
This was taken with two blank letters.
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What sites do you guys use to buy and/or price cards?
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>>25823397
Troll and Toad
TCGPlayer
and in extreme cases, eBay
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>>25823493
ebay is better than both of the other two by far lmao
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>>25820936
Every year, countless children are sent to the Shadow Realm while playing Yugioh.
For only 10 dollars a month you can help put an end to this.
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>>25823552
eBay is unpredictable, by definition, since its an amalgamation of sellers that vary from just any random fuck to a reputable businesses. You can look at Sold Listings and see general trend lines, but it's usually just random sellers trying to undercut each other to move product as quick as possible. Which makes eBay great for buying if you're lucky. For instance, TCGPlayer and Troll and Toad have Shaymin EX ROS 77 listed at $51, but there are some Sold Listings on eBay for as low as $25.

TCGPlayer is the best for looking at real trend lines in card value, and probably the second best to buy from since you can see which sellers are reputable and which aren't pretty easily.

I only use Troll and Toad for quick appraisals of cards, obviously they can inflate and deflate their prices on a whim but in general they're pretty much in line with TCGPlayer. I don't buy from them though, or sell to them either.
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>>25820295
Vintage is cheating though. No shit cards from literally 23 years ago that were never reprinted are going to be expensive. That's like complaining that comic books are an expensive hobby because Amazing Fantasy #15 costs more than a car.

Standard is pretty cheap now that fetchlands have rotated out. Modern varies quite a bit but unless you're playing Goyf you can get by with 200-300 no problem.

Legacy is expensive as heck.
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>>25819899
The deck is very 'all in' meaning it often cannot handle a single counterplay. This means that games often come down to 'did I draw my answer before he killed me? If yes I win no contest, if no I lose no contest'.

Related to the first point, the deck is very uninteractive. It usually comes down to playing solitaire for a few minutes and then either winning or losing.

People who play it because 'top tier lololol' and don't actually know how to sequence properly/efficiently take SO FUCKING LONG with their turns.

It's similar to most combo decks in Magic the Gathering (the other TCG I have reasonable experience in) where, yes, they may be tier one but there are definitely legitimate complaints about how the deck plays.
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>>25823712
standards new meta hasn't been decided yet. Could easily be 500+ again

>2-300 modern
lmao
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>>25823758
>The deck is very 'all in' meaning it often cannot handle a single counterplay. This means that games often come down to 'did I draw my answer before he killed me? If yes I win no contest, if no I lose no contest'.
This literally isn't what's happening, though. Maybe against literal children on PTCGO, but at cities and states, Night March either wins, wins, or maybe there's an uphill battle before it wins. Even against supposed counters like Toad, Trev, Jolteon, or Vespiquen/Vileplume.

Which is why people complain. There's nothing wrong with its mechanics or anything, people are simply complaining about the current FOTM Tier 1 deck. Just like they did with Toad, and Yveltal, and Virigen, and Darkrai, and Mewtwo, and Garchomp/Luxray, all the way back to Haymaker. Tier 1 decks trigger people for no reason other than that they're good.

>It usually comes down to playing solitaire for a few minutes and then either winning or losing.
Again, welcome to Pokemon. NM is by no means Solitaire. The only "play" is dropping a Compressor or going through the motions of Shaymin until you hit the DCE you need, which is by no means unique to NM. At all. I'd actually dare you to find a single Standard deck that doesn't spend five minutes cycling Shaymins on T1.

More importantly, can you link a single post from the last few months complaining about actual Solitaire decks like M Fug or any Vileplume variant? Those are decks that actually take 10+ minute turns, but not a peep against them. Mysterious, huh? It's almost like people only complain about Tier 1 decks, even if several other decks in the meta are shittier but equally annoying versions of it.

>there are definitely legitimate complaints about how the deck plays
I have yet to hear one.
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>>25820000
Notice how a lot of what you listed requires evolution? The Greninja player isn't hitting you for 120+ damage on his or her first turn.

'low cost' doesn't just mean the attacks are low cost, it means that the resources that a player has to spend to put themselves in an advantageous position are minimal and/or easily obtained. The ease of discarding cards through Ultra Ball, Battle Compressor and Sycamore, coupled with the draw power of Sycamore and Shaymin-Ex, it's much easier to get 7-8 Night Marchers into your discard pile. Additionally, you only need to set this up once as compared to Greninja/Garchomp/Yveltal, Entei etc..., which all need to set up a new sweeper through evolution/multiple energy investments.

None of the other decks you mentioned are as fast as NM. They have the advantage of being more resilient and less vulnerable to specific hate, butt that doesn't make NM less cancerous; a deck turning matches into a 50/50 coinflip isn't healthy for the game as a whole.
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>>25823758
It's still unfair to blame this playstyle on NM and NM alone.

>Trev
Dig through deck... bench a Phantump... grab Wally... evolve into Trevenant... pass. No more items.
>Vileplume
Dig through deck... bench an Oddish... grab FoGP... evolve into Vileplume... pass. No more items.
>Vespi
Dig through deck... bench some Combee... Battle Compressor several Pokemon... attach DCE... grab FoGP... evolve into Vespiquen... swing for big damage.
>Toad/Tina
Ultra Ball for Hoopa EX... grab a shit ton of EX's you need... attach DCE to Seismitoad EX... Quaking Punch. No more items.
>M Fug
Ultra Ball for Hoopa EX.. grab a shit ton of EX's you need... Shaymin for 6... Ultra Ball for Hoopa EX... grab a shit ton of EX's you need... Shaymin for 6... evolve into M Rayquaza EX... attach DCE.. Mega Turbo... swing for big damage.

Are any of these decks inherently less solitaire than NM? Don't really think so.

Also
>>25823829
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>>25823830
>Notice how a lot of what you listed requires evolution? The Greninja player isn't hitting you for 120+ damage on his or her first turn.
Funnily enough, out of the seven decks listed, ONLY Greninja and Mewtwo can't hit for 120 on the first turn. The other five very much can and almost bank on being able to do that, Yveltal being the one other exception since it sometimes takes it slow with baby Yveltal.

Which really makes me reluctant to type the rest of what I have to say out, considering you just unironically said M Fug, Vespiquen, and Entei can't hit for 120+ on Turn 1.

>Additionally, you only need to set this up once as compared to Greninja/Garchomp/Yveltal, Entei etc..., which all need to set up a new sweeper through evolution/multiple energy investments.
All the tools you listed are by no means unique to NM. Are you actually implying only NM has access to Ultra Balls or Sycamore, or that by using them as shittier Compressor substitutes that NM has a magical utility edge on other decks?
And why do you think decks like Entei and M Fug and Trev and Toad are topping tournaments? Because you CAN set them up in a single turn. Easily. If something like Charizard took more than a Blacksmith+DCE to set up, why the fuck would anyone run it? Think, man.

>None of the other decks you mentioned are as fast as NM. They have the advantage of being more resilient and less vulnerable to specific hate, butt that doesn't make NM less cancerous; a deck turning matches into a 50/50 coinflip isn't healthy for the game as a whole.
What you just said boils down to
>Night March is Tier 1 so it has an advantage over other decks; this is bad
Can you name a single meta, ever, in any card game, where a Tier 1 deck WASN'T better than a Tier 2 or lower deck? This goes against basic logic and sense.
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Pulls weren't great on this pack. Hope whoever uses this code gets something better.
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>>25823962
I did get something better. Thanks.
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>>25823829
>NM either wins, wins, or uphill battle and wins
You are literally saying that NM cannot lose at cities and states. Do you have any idea how fucking retarded and verifiably wrong that is? You're probably going to retort with some shitty 'oh it was hyperbole you autist' response but since apparently your only refutation to my 'the game is a coinflip because the deck either wins or loses based on hate' is 'no it literally ALWAYS wins' doesn't hold up if your statement is actually 'NM wins more games than it loses'.

I'll restate this for you plainly:
NM games often come down to 'did I draw the hate I have for NM fast enough to disrupt it? If yes I win. If no I lose'. If NM wins more matchs than it loses, this just means that the odds of drawing hate cards fast enough are lower than the odds of just getting blown out.

>WAAAH EVERY DECK IS SOLITAIRE.
Read the entire point you dumb cunt. The solitaire point isn't to indicate that players take long turns, it's to indicate that NM literally doesn't give a shit what the other deck is doing. It always has the exact same linear, uninteractive gameplan. You notice how in my initial point I opened with 'it's uninteractive' and then made the solitaire analogy? That's because the main focus of the argument is the lack of interaction.

A NM player can play out their hand (ie: 'goldfish') a game without knowing the matchup. The gameplan is always the same and the amount of decisions that a player needs to make are minimal. The optimal line of play is almost always the same from game to game.

Compare that to something like Greninja or Bats which often have to be pretty careful with how they sequence events. Even Yveltal decks and other straightforward EX based strategies have to look at what is on the other side of the table in order to determine if they can afford to set up baby yveltal, pivot with zoroak or whatever.
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>>25824032
Toad is also an uninteractive deck in that it tries to prevent its opponent from actually playing the game. Strangely, people complain about that too.

>I have yet to hear one
That's because you're reading them faggot. You can rationalize away all you like but NM is an uninteractive deck that lacks complex decisions and has minimal counterplay. This makes it a shitty deck according to basic game design.
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>>25821736
There was never any god or devil. Just our minds struggling to find explanations for why we deserved random pain.

I have no Charizards. I'll trade the Shaymins (which are digital) and the rest of my account with them, for a code to some better game than this one.
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>>25824032
>NM literally doesn't give a shit what the other deck is doing. It always has the exact same linear, uninteractive gameplan. You notice how in my initial point I opened with 'it's uninteractive' and then made the solitaire analogy? That's because the main focus of the argument is the lack of interaction.

>A NM player can play out their hand (ie: 'goldfish') a game without knowing the matchup.

>The gameplan is always the same and the amount of decisions that a player needs to make are minimal.

>The optimal line of play is almost always the same from game to game.

see
>>25823873
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It my b-day. I got two booster boxes. Legendary Treasures and Ancient Origins. I'm gunna post codes over the next few days. Have fun dudes.
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>>25824086
Don't post codes unless you're hiding them behind a puzzle. Scriptfags get them all instantly.
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fresh new bred

>>25824161
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>>25824032
>You are literally saying that NM cannot lose at cities and states. Do you have any idea how fucking retarded and verifiably wrong that is?
It was hyperbole, you autist.
But really, the deck is literally Tier 0. It has OVER THREE TIMES the winrate of the next best deck on a States level, which is absolutely unheard of.
Oh, except last year with Toad. When it had a similar winrate. Which people also complained about.
Oh, and the year before that with Yveltal. When that had a similar winrate. Which people also complained about.
Oh, and the year before THAT with ViriGen, or Blastoise/Kyurem, Haymaker, etc. It's not Night March, it's the core concept of a deck being good that gets people like you riled up.

Are you implying that 20 years of diverse Tier 1 decks are all mechanically cancerous?

>NM games often come down to 'did I draw the hate I have for NM fast enough to disrupt it? If yes I win. If no I lose'
No, ANY game against a Tier 1 deck comes down to that. That's the POINT. That's what makes a deck Tier 1. If this weren't the case NM wouldn't be Tier 1. Why don't you understand this?

>Read the entire point you dumb cunt.
>"People who play it because 'top tier lololol' and don't actually know how to sequence properly/efficiently take SO FUCKING LONG with their turns."
Again, why aren't you complaining about decks with actual 10+ minute sequences? Why aren't you writing 2k-char posts about Vileplume?
Because Vileplume isn't Tier 1. Which is your only problem with NM.

Not to mention >>25823873 completely destroys your point. Night March isn't special or unique. Its win condition is a mechanic shared between several other meta decks such as Vespiquen. The only thing special about NM is that it's Tier 1.

How about this: What do you think will happen once NM rotates? Do you think we'll enter a fresh, diverse meta where you can play anything? Because we won't. We'll just have NM 2.0, and you'll shitpost about that too.
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Okay, let's have some fun then.
First card's last three digits are: Tyranitar, Wartortle's dex numbah, and Eevee
Second card is: Mewtwo, Quilava, Jolteon
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>>25824206
the DANGEROUS ENERGY is cool i think
Thank you
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Whoo! The little puzzle worked! Okay, more codes on the way. I have two booster boxes worth of em.
Card one: Charizard's dex numbah, Mew, Mewtwo
Card two: Aegislash, Empoleon, last digit of Seaking's dex numbah
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Adding a few more. I got Deinos for days.
Card one: Charmeleon's number, Turtwig, Heliolisk
Card two: Lugia, Wynaut, Tyrunt
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