PTCG/O General: Shit Edition

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First for Chestnaught's Bizzare Adventure

I don't know what deck to make next halp

The FA Glaceon

>>25824161
If the Barbaracle's wording is vague then Barbaracle. If not then Glaceon for Jolt/Glac/Mew.

>>25824222
What's vague about Barbaracle? It's pretty straightforward.

>>25824239
They could translate it as "if there is a stadium in play" rather than "your stadium."

Probably Lugia even though its shit. Got to collect all the Lugia cards

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>even the Charizard Promo card from his Generations box is going for inflated prices

fucking WHY?

>>25824161
>TotT: which Fates Collide card are you looking forward to most?
M Alakazam. It looks like it's going to be another M Mewtwo, but it might end up good thanks to damage spread against NM.

Other than that, I already have 300+ packs put aside to collect the rest of the set. I've been streaming recently, and I'm going to take advantage of the new set to start making videos, especially since abluegolfball quit.

Going to put together M Alakazam/Bats, Genesect/Bronzong/Lucario, Fossils, Zygarde/Carbink, Delphox Break, and Ho-oh Break if it comes over. Maybe some joke decks like Weezing Mill, Wormadams, or Reuniclus.

ToTT. Mew. It's my favorite Pokemon (I have most copies of Mew printed) and it'll be boss in my NM deck.

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>playing against night march faggotry
>snipe all their weak shitmons with glorious Water Shurikens
>win

>>25824514

As neat as it is, but your opponent must be really bad for the fact that they let you set up enough Greninjas to laugh at them

Does Greninja run Wally?

>>25824647
Yes

I really wanna make the new Bronzong Break into a deck because of my love for Bronzong

>>25824713
Follow your dreams.

Which Bronzong card is your favorite?

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>>25824086
Happy birthday, anon!

>>25824161
Should i be opening the reward packs i get for going through trainer challenge, or hold onto them and trade em? Also which packs do people trade cards for?

>>25824959
Honestly Bronzong has been gifted with a lot of fun cards. He's usually used as a utilitymon which I like.

The current metal links one will do just fine for the deck

What deck beats Night March exactly?

How do you have fun with that deck?

>>25825144
>What deck beats Night March exactly?
According to results, nothing.
Your best bet would be Trevenant, Seismitoad, or a Vileplume variant.
Alternatively, just beast through it with Yveltal. Even if it's a poor matchup.

>>25825144
>What deck beats Night March exactly?
Greninja BREAK does pretty well.
Trevenant BREAK, Seismitoad/Giratina, and Vileplume variants have an easier time but it's not guaranteed.

>How do you have fun with that deck?
You play that deck to win, not to have fun.

>>25825031
Got some booters to open, but i don't know if theyre better to trade before im done with trainer challenge

>>25825208
I'm pretty sure the boosters you get from trainer challenge are untradable

So you might as well open them

>>25825144
if it locks, it's good.

>tfw no one is trading the cards you want on the trade market
feels shitty man

Damn, keep forgetting Bide Barricade doesn't work on psychic pokemon, fug

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>Go into theme ladder
>opponent has 4 hands with no basics in a row
>immediate concede
>wheel gives me free pack, has golduck BREAK in it

Today was a good day.

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>>25824161
>Grass Muk
Explain.

>>25826105
Poison types were Grass up until D&P.

>>25826105
Fuck off you literal child

>>25826114
What are they now!? I stopped collecting cards after gen3

>>25827122
Psychic normally

>>25824170
Who is chesnaught supposed to be?

>>25825144
Any hammer deck. Greninja and Trevenant also have an advantage against them.

Night March decks have literally 4 energies in their entire deck.

>>25827222
Literally me!

Was just looking at Fates collide list and was thinking will there be any deck that takes advantage of Umbreon EX's end game, I mean on paper it seems amazing but what are the chances you're opponent will play into it?

>>25827295

I'm going to go out on a limb and say for the most part, no, it won't be played. However there can be a meta game in which it is useful. Yveltal-Ex can Y-Cyclone onto it, softening up the mega and powering up Umbreon. There's an obvious synergy there that gives Umbreon a chance where I don't think there is one otherwise. The math is a tiny bit sketchy. Yveltal will do 110 with a muscle band, 120 if you have Reverse Valley out as well. Then Umbreon will also need a muscle band and the stadium to hit for 100. 220 knocks out all the important megas aside from primal Groudon, but I haven't even looked into whether Umbreon's attack works against primals as it does megas. A big problem is that the most popular mega, Manectric, is going to heal in between those attacks with Rough Seas. So what's left? Mega Fug? It's just way too specific a matchup for a 1 of of an otherwise weak card.

But yea if suddenly megas are really good I would expect to see it. And in that situation I wouldn't worry about people playing around it. Yveltal would power it up and you always have Lysandre to bring it back if it tries to retreat. Not to mention Mega Catcher being introduced to beat the dead horse that is mega evolution.

>>25827420
I agree with everything you said, but Primals are Megas in all game mechanics.

>>25824266
I know the feel anon, I'm also waiting on the translation with baited breath

>>25824595
>implying there are good night march players
TOP
KEK

>>25827762
S A L T
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>>25825188
According to results, ToadTina, you mean.

>>25827762
>he hasn't been following States
TOP
LEL

>>25827776
Just because an auto win deck is topping doesn't mean the person has to be good or compitent. The deck only does 1 thing and then swing for big damage. Literally no thought, no thinking ahead.

>>25827788
>you don't have to be good to pilot a deck to the top and even win
>even when players as skilled as you or more so are playing decks specifically designed to counter and beat your deck

Kys

>>25827788
DubDubs confirm
Night March is for retards

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>TotT: which Fates Collide card are you looking forward to most?

I'm actually liking a lot of cards in this set, I'm not a meta only player though. So I find a lot of cards fun even if they are "bad" but the entire Burmy line looks really fun to use. The new Delphox looks GREAT, I want to try using the fossils too. Lucario looks interesting and as much as I want it to be good Mandibuzz BREAK is straight garbage.

>get randomly disconnected
>lose
Thanks shit client.
If I didn't have internet so good Bernie Sanders got mad about it I wouldn't fucking complain.

>>25827788
I never thought I would hear people complaining about somethig like that in pokemon tcg. I mean, your opponent can't even play cards in your turn.

All decks are basically, setup your gimmick, put energies on your mon, and swing for damage. And some decks doesn't even a gimmick.

>buy 2 XY packs hoping for an Aromatisse or Xerneas
>Get Blastoise Ex and M-Blastoise Ex
Ech.

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>>25827835
>If I didn't have internet so good Bernie Sanders got mad about it I wouldn't fucking complain.

>>25825031
are they locked? then open them.
are they unlocked? Then keep em for trading.

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tfw no non-fa manectric ex on the trades

Am I right in thinking this FA Bianca on the ladder is kind of shitty? I don't play much Expanded. Is it a much-used card at all?

>>25828142
Not at all

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>Started TCGO a couple weeks ago
>Decided to not buy codes so it's been slow going
>Wheeling and dealing, making trades
>hmm I should open at least a few tradeable packs in case someone is desperate for uncommons
Get FUCKED NERDS

>>25828157
Y-you too.

>>25828157
Buying codes is the best way to play. 30 packs for about 12 bucks since I don't have time to grind away at tournaments.

What is the best Evolution based deck right now?

>>25828243
Generations Charizard line

>>25828243
greninja?

>>25828253
>>25828256
Show me a build?

>>25828282
not spoonfeeding you.

>>25828289
Fag, Deck sharing is the best thing about card games. Shows good spirit.

>>25828243
Greninja.

>>25828282
Don't have, you are going to google what people have been using at tourneys.

>>25828303
Then fucking netdeck a list, retard.

>>25828243
Trevenant Break.

>>25828243
Greninja BREAK
Trevenant BREAK
Vileplume/Vespiquen

That's it mane

I haven't played the TCG in 2-3 years at this point. I might still have some old cards w/ codes on them, but ta this point would they be any use in-game? What all have I missed, what is different?

>>25828157
I normally set aside half the packs I get from tournaments to open and half to trade.
It's a good balance between my knowledge that trading is the best way to build deck and my addiction to opening packs.

>>25828401
>haven't played the TCG in 2-3 years at this point.
>What all have I missed, what is different?

1) The format is incredibly diverse - probably the most diverse in (at least recent) history. There are so many competitive decks:

>Trevenant
>Greninja
>Night March
>Vespiquen
>M Manectric
>Yveltal
>Seismitoad
>Giratina
>Raichu
>Fighting
>Metal
>M Rayquaza

And those are just the ones I can think of atm.

2) Most of your old cards aren't usable. However, there are some that have been reprinted, like Ultra Ball, Level Ball, Skyla, and in Fates Collide N is getting reprinted. There are probably some others you can use - just ask people at league.

3) Catcher got errata'd to make you flip a coin. Now people rarely use it. Lysandre is the new Catcher.

4) Decks flow now. It used to be very few decks got set up quickly - thus why Tropical Beach was so popular.
Now you can almost deck yourself out turn 1 because of:
>Acro Bike (draw 2, discard 1 and keep the other)
>Trainer's Mail (draw 4, pick a Trainer, shuffle the rest back in)
>Ultra Ball
>Shaymin (draw until you have 6 in hand)
>Battle Compressor (search your deck and discard up to 3)
>VS Seeker (put a Supporter from the discard into your hand)

5) There's a shit-ton of locking. Item locking is the most common with Trevenant and Seismitaod.
Also, Giratina prevents your opponent from using tools, stadiums, and special energy.
And Garbodor got reprinted (you can't use the old ones - different attack), so that, Hex Maniac, Wobbuffet, and Silent Lab shut off abilities.

>>25828532
thanks, that helps a lot! does this mean old card codes are useless anymore?

Also, I've seen some stuck about Break, with gold-plated 'mons. I'm assuming this is like EX, just another stage of card evolution?

Looking at Primal Groudon/Wob deck, why do people even run focus sash? I can't think of any mon that can hit for 240

>>25828587
why can't you just google this shit you lazy fuck lmao

>>25824314

Is it rare or something?

My LCS has 5 Charizard boxes still

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I found a website that lets you play people online in older pokemon TCG formats. I got to play some base set games today thanks to it. Professor oak is too good.

Does anybody want to see the site?

>>25827835

>people have shit internet because ISPs are cunt and know they can get away with being cunts
>"DURR, Bernie hate rich people xD Bernie want big company to STOP treating people fairly"

TrumpSupport.txt

>>25828679
>rich people
>eastern european country
Top fucking lel.

>>25828367
You do realize you're being extremely rude to this person over pokemon of all things right? He's most certainly not a retard and there was nothing wrong with him asking for help for his deck. Stop being so mean to people.

>>25828282
It should be pretty easy to find one by googling for it. I've never had trouble finding them. If you still can't find anything then let us know.

God, I hate knockout challenges so much. Takes so fucking long to do them because people just concede instead of dragging the match letting their pokemon get knocked out.

>>25828676

Pls

>>25828697

>>25828688

We talking about people with good internet?

New York has Optimum. 140mb/s, public wifi wherever you go, no data caps, cable, and phone line for $80 a month

I hear stories of shit flyover states that get less than 20mb/s, have data caps, no public wifi, and have to pay over $100

>>25828697

You gotta learn how to rope a dope

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>>25828719

>>25828587
>does this mean old card codes are useless

Depends on the set. Expanded was introduced about two seasons ago. Instead of it being XY-on like in Standard, it's BW-on.

So some people might be interested in them, especially Plasma sets because of SR Ultra Ball and Max Potion.

>>25828587
>Also, I've seen some stuff about Breaks, with gold-plated 'mons.
>I'm assuming this is like EX, just another stage of card evolution?

BREAKs are new. They were introduced in BREAKthrough.

They're not like EXes. When you KO an EX, you take two prizes. When you KO a BREAK, you still only take one, which is why Zoroark, Trevenant, and Greninja are busted.

>>25828734

Okay, that's actually funny

>>25828697
If you tell people you're doing a challenge, most of them are considerate enough to finish out the match so you can get knockout/damage req's. just be social

>>25828940
>busted
Hold up there mememaster

No one runs Zoroark BREAK competitively, beyond maybe, MAYBE a one-of tech in one of the many Zoroark based decks (Yveltal, Mewtwo EX, and Vespiquen come to mind).

Trevenant and Greninja's BREAKs are only good because they shit all over Night March which currently sits at Tier 0.5. Otherwise, Trevenant is prone to bricking and deals damage very, very slowly and susceptible to Lysandre and Hex Maniac. Greninja, being stage 2, is unwieldy and suffers from consistency issue, dies to Hex Maniac, and is good against basically nothing else in the format.

So let's pump the brakes before we start calling these BREAKs "busted."

>>25828940
Can you use a BREAK card on a EX?

>>25829020
Does the Break card says that you can put on a EX pokemon, no? Then you can't.

If you have a tradeable and non tradeable pack, how do you open the non tradeable one? Will it just automatically do it?

>>25829121
Yeah, it opens non tradeable first.

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>>25829227
Thanks, was just double checking, this is cute, I got wooper and quagsire in the same pack, 2 of my favourite mons.

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>Get random Legendary Treasures pack as chuck in in a trade
>Open it to get this

Yummy

Christ why can't this game just sell boosters for cash in the client instead of forcing me to use the crapshoot that is ebay?

>>25829307
They do and its not as good of a deal

>>25829323
A sure thing is better than ebay desu. I'd rather have shit instantly over waiting 1-7 days

Which M-Charizard is the best to use?

>>25829362

None since it doesn't have a Spirit Link

>>25829362
None of them

>>25829368
How can they fuck up this badly?

>>25829332
Could you link me to a typical listing that is good? Cause I'm really new and I don't even know what packs to buy, is this reasonable: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/50x-Pokemon-Card-Phantom-Forces-TCG-Online-Unused-Code-/361430732630?hash=item5426f34f56:g:xBgAAOSwLVZVrzte

>>25829398

Unfortunately those Megas were made before PCL finally realized that Mega Evolving ending your Turn was a bad idea so Spirit Links have to be made starting in Phantom Forces and they also fucked up not making Charizard/Venusaur/Blastoise Spirit Links in Generations

>>25829425
Why didn't they just slip those in the newest set

>>25829434
Pretty sure its because M Venusaur/Charizard/Blastoise are pretty damn strong compared to other mega

>>25829499
M Venu would be a monster with a spirit link and FoGP.

>>25829404
It is, but PF is kinda a dead set, you wont get people going crazy for the packs but if you want to make a deck out of the cards in the set its a good deal. I guess come next set people will want somethings out of the set because I think thats the set with Bats in and devo bats will be good next set.

>>25828593
Mega Fug, Yveltal and Mega Mewtwo so if they have enough energy, and Mega Gardevoir

>>25829552
I see, just feel like assault vest would be better for overall uses

>>25829521
Do you think its possible to make a workin deck out of 50 packs with the help of the theme starters?

>>25829679
Probably, anything with the zubat line in can work and after double checking the card list there is still some things that people want like M manectric. Its probably a worthwhile investment if you are looking to get into the game. You should maybe open half and keep half for trading.

>>25829307
Just buy from reputable sellers that will email you the codes

>>25827835
this
just lost a fucking tournament finals because the game just decided to freeze

>>25828676
link

>>25829845
But I did that, they even specified they email the codes and then they went ahead and mailed it via fucking USPS from Florida to CA

>live in the UK
>nobody has heard of Double Crisis
>play Team Magma Secret Base to set up Durant mill
>opponent has to read it carefully every single time
>they still don't understand why I run it

Anyway, is Double Crisis even legal for tournament play here? Was it ever released? I want to annoy people in nationals.

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Running this.
-3 Greninja Break
-2 Greninja XY
-2 Greninja BKP
-4 Froakie BKP
-4 Frogadier BKP
-2 Slowpoke BKP
-9 Basic blue energies
-1 Splash energy
-2 Wally
-2 Two Nurse Ladies
-2 Prof. Letters
-1 Trainer Letter
-2 Rough seas
-1 Archie
-1 Battle Compressor
-2 Super Rod
-2 Fisherman
-1 Giovanni's
-2 Float stones
-2 Evosoda
-4 Dive Balls
-1 Skyla
-2 energy Retrieval
-1 Max Potion
And I don't really remember the other 5 cards. But any suggestions?

>>25830120
Oh yeah,
-1 Sacred Ash
-1 Town Map
Can't remember the other 3 though.

>>25830120
Drop a Break and run 3 BP Greninja, 1 XY
Did you forget to type in Slowking or Slowbro? Whichever one you're running, don't. No business here.
Center Lady and Float Stone don't belong here.
If you're going to run 2 Fisherman and 2 Retrieval, you need more than just 1 Compressor
Evosoda makes no sense here, you already have access to Dive and Ultra Ball
Where's Shaymin?

>>25830156
No Ultra Ball, and EX cards can suck my ass.
And pls don't tell me to drop a Break, these things are 10 a piece.
Oh and Slowpoke because of the second move. Just in case I get shit hands..

>>25830169
>No Ultra Ball, and EX cards can suck my ass.
Are you 12?

>And pls don't tell me to drop a Break, these things are 10 a piece.
3 bricks easily, and you have the advantage of running both Dive and Ultra Ball to make 2 consistent.

>Oh and Slowpoke because of the second move. Just in case I get shit hands.
Walk-Off Homer isn't a good move. It's too situational and otherwise dead and, most importantly, you have zero ways of actually fueling it. How do you propose to get three energies set up, especially when you have to keep attaching for Moonlight Slash? You don't even run DCE (and shouldn't).

>>25830211
I have no idea what you are talking about in the last part.
I was referring to the 2 energy move that lets me look for any pokemon in my deck.

>>25830211
Ok, I went and got a set of Ultraballs.
Should I get more energy retrieval and professor letters? Im already running two of each, but I think I could throw in another retrieval.

So are theme tournaments for packs gone now? Only coins?

>>25830236
Alright, I've fallen for it. Your bait worked. You got me. Reveal that you're a masterful ruseman so I can move on.

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>>25830259
I really, really don't know what the fuck you are talking about. I'm back into the TCG after 12 years so I am trying to build a deck. I am mostly familiar with Break point cards since I've got more of those.

>>25830279
I shouldn't have to explain this, but don't run Slowpoke.
You already have Dive and Ultra Balls to do exactly what Slowpoke's attack does, and all WITHOUT wasting a turn and two whole energies to do it. This is important because your ability to compete with the meta revolves around getting an early Water Duplication out, and Slowpoke slows that down significantly.
You also don't want to sit on a 70 HP basic that, again, is redundant with items that do the same thing without wasting your turn. And, again, you don't run DCE so there's no realistic way of powering up this slow, weak basic in a reasonable amount of time.

Also, going back over your list, I noticed you have 0 Sycamore and 0 VS Seeker, which is the opposite of what you want.

>>25830211
I had to read it twice but the original anon meant Slowpoke, not Slowbro.

>client is broken (again)
>won't load (again)
Welp, time to reinstall
>the download link leads to a completely different page and not a download at all.

>>25830338
I have some Sycamore lying around. No VS Seekers though. I just ordered the Ultraballs so I'll take the Slowpokes out as soon as I get them.

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What do you guys think?

>>25830364
You'll need a playset of Seeker.

>>25830389
>40 dollars a set
Fuck.

>>25830399
You can get them for $7 each or less if you're patient.

>>25830407
I hope they get a reprint.

>>25830399
Welcome to card games, they cost money.

Wait till you see Shaymin EX's price. You could at least run Octillery instead but there's no replacement for Seeker.

>>25830423
Isn't Shaymin getting a tin box though? That will make the prices fall faster than the Twin Towers.

>>25830435
nope.

>>25830435
Nope, it might one day; but nothing in the near future.

>>25830387
Nice collection, for whatever reason. I love that shining magikarp.

>>25830423

Pokemon TCG technically already has it better than most other TCGs cost wise ...

>Bushitroll just announces the G-Zone for Vanguard will increase from 8 to 16 come next Fighters Collection as they introduces G-Guardians
>Watches the price of some of the Strides jump up because "LOL extra room"

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>>25830435

>Isn't Shaymin getting a tin box though? That will make the prices fall faster than the Twin Towers.

Nope, even IFF it gets reprinted the original will still be hovering between $10~20 due to how almost every deck needs it. Knowing TPCi they will probably do it either this summer or when RSK is near its end in Standard

>>25830472
We already have a good timeline for 2016's product lineup and Shaymin tins aren't on it. However, I imagine that once the XY era comes to a close they'll either release a Legendary Treasures 3 or some tins to keep Shaymin EX in rotation.

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>>25830387
All I see is money.
You can make some nice cash off the extra cards.

Right now, I'm thinking selling my Plasma Storm Charizard.
Not sure if I should.

>>25830472
Pokemon isn't much cheaper than most card games and the only reason it is cheaper is due to lack of demand

>>25830515
>All I see is money.

I actually got all those cards from trades.
Except for the Shining Charizard. Luckiest pull I've ever had.

>>25830423
>Welcome to card games, they cost absurd amounts of money.
ftfy

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>>25830435
>That will make the prices fall faster than the Twin Towers.
>twin towers
How many people here are older enough to be alive when that happen on here?

>>25830589
I was like 13 or so when it happened, maybe 14

>>25830589
It was like 15 years ago dude. How underage do you think people are? I was 8. I remember my family seeing the news and I'm like "is that a movie?"

>>25830549
>Pokemon isn't much cheaper than most card games
We've had this discussion every single thread for the past dozen threads.
It is cheaper.
Cheaper doesn't mean it's not expensive. A Tier 1 Pokemon deck will cost you $150~$300.
But that's how much fully-built rogues and low-tiers in other card games cost. Yugioh and Magic Standard decks regularly pass well above the $500 mark and sometimes pushes over $1000. And it gets much more expensive for other formats.

>>25830589

I was 12 when it happened, so I remember it very well.

>>25830701
And has someone who has played standard magic for years, the average standard pokemon deck is only 50$ 100$ cheaper than the average standard magic deck

It's cheaper, but it's still ridiculously expensive. And I'd rather spend that money on a magic deck desu because people actually play that game.

>>25830725
>And has someone who has played standard magic for years, the average standard pokemon deck is only 50$ 100$ cheaper than the average standard magic deck
No. A low- or mid-range Magic deck is only $100 cheaper than the MOST EXPENSIVE Pokemon deck. This is the distinction that needs to be made. You're comparing the worst of Magic with the literal best of Pokemon.
I can put together a locals-winning Pokemon deck for well under $100.

>>25830742
And I can put together a locals winning magic deck for 50-100, it's called mono red or anything aggro/burn.

When 90% of standard decks use shaymin-ex, a 55 dollar card, it's not that cheap.

>Max Elixir going for nearly $2 each
I didn't know it was that in demand

>>25830870
It is a night march staple.

Is it worth it to buy an elite trainer box? Breakpoint boxes are going for 30 bucks on ebay, and its got some neat things.
I mean, it beats buying booster packs from target, and it has some extras. It would be a one time thing though.

>>25830870
You want to see retarded?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/4x-FIGHTING-FURY-BELT-99-122-XY-BREAKPoint-Pokemon-Card-HTF-Trainer-MINT-/391380551751?hash=item5b20194847:g:fNMAAOSwPc9Wt4GD
These things come in the theme decks, yet people are charging almost as much for 4 of these.

>>25830904

Here's the thing though, each theme deck only comes with one of FFB and frankly no one in their right mind would buy a theme deck just for a single copy and have a majority of the remaining cards being useless bulk I also did a tally after I opened a case with a friend and it seems that you get less FFB and Max Elixir compared to other Trainers

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>>25830797
We've had this discussion a dozen times. I should probably go back and just copy one of the dozens of answers that deals with your argument.

Ignoring your price hyperbole, Shaymin is
>The MOST EXPENSIVE card in the format.
>A card that you don't need a playset of, ESPECIALLY if you're building budget.
Now compare this to Magic.

The problem here is that your argument conflagarates budget builds with FULL, TIER-1, STATES/NATS/WORLDS-winning decks.
A perfect, 100% complete max-money Pokemon deck that can win any tournament at any skill level shouldn't go for more than $300. Maybe that's a bit of a lowball, but it's a perfectly valid ballpark.

Now, compare this to the same tier Magic deck. Not your locals $50 MTG shitter rogue, a full, Tier 1, 100% build, max-money Magic deck. Is it anywhere near $300, when cards like Jace go for over $70 and you need a playset of them? When your landbase alone will cost you well over $100?

And of course you'll say something like "Well, I don't need to build a Tier 1 Magic deck!" which is not only fucking obvious, but also ignoring the fact that you don't need to build a Tier 1 Pokemon deck either.

>>25830925
You keep thinking I am arguing magics cheaper, which I haven't been.

I am giving you low cost decks that are often tier 1 or at least 2 and very viable. RDW being cheap does not make it's incredibly fast damage not matter. I've won many tournaments with a simple RDW filled with a ton of commons and uncommons and a few rares. What I am saying is that your low cost pokemon decks are as much outliers as low cost magic decks. And though they are cheaper, it's not by much.

Shaymin-ex costs more than any card in standard in magic. I mean shit, look at

>>25830870
>>25830904
people are selling uncommon staples for a decent amount.

Again, I only argued pokemon isn't much cheaper. It is cheaper but not by a massive amount. 20-25% or so

>>25830973
>people are selling uncommon staples for a decent amount.
Also Puzzle of Time. That card is getting real popular. I have like 3 of those just sitting there, for trading fodder.

>>25830925
What site is that? I asked before but I don't believe anyone answered.

>>25831008
tcgplayer

>>25830875
It actually isn't.

>>25830990
Inb4 poz becomes the new compressor and cost $15 for a playset

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>>25830925

>>25831053
I don't see why not, it is a really useful card.

>>25831053
No reason why it shouldn't. Teammates will still be around after rotation, and it's still the best way of recurring cards in standard. M Fug will have 4 copies for sure.

>>25831060
>Troll and Toad overcharging as usual decides the price of a card
I just put up a listing. I'm selling my Shaymin for $500. Shaymin is now a $500 card, right?
That's how retarded your argument is.

This shit is like clockwork, we have this exact same back-and-forth every single time.

>>25830701

Oh boy, a tier-1 Pokemon card deck costs ALMOST as much as a SINGLE retro video game!

Not only is it the cheapest TCG to play competitively
Not only is it the cheats TCG to collect for
It's one of the cheapest nerdy hobbies around.

No matter which way you slice it, it's the cheapest.

My comic book hobby costs me more
My retro games hobby costs me WAY more (a single high-end game starts at $250 and only goes up)
PC enthusiasm costs more
Model building costs more just on paint alone
RC planes blow every TCG the fuck out
Animu figure collecting is more expensive (most expensive figure I own was a Metal Gear REX which was $500 retail)
Magic the Gathering has cost me more in 2 months then Pokemon did in the past 6 months
Cosplay costs more
Attending a single convention costs more

Come the fuck on, dude

>>25831184

My point being, it's in fact, not expensive. Not when you look at it relative to literally every other hobby aside from fucking pearled beads or some shit.

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Going to a Tournament tomorrow, and I need to build a good deck.

I have the cards to make the set, but not sure which one will be the best

>>25831184
>It's the cheapest
I have no idea what fucking hobbies you people have that cost you thousands a month. Pokemon costs hundreds upon undreds and yes, any card game is expensive. Every cardgame fag for some reason wants to believe his card game is budget friendly. They aren't, get the fuck over it.

>>25831216
>I have no idea what fucking hobbies you people have that cost you thousands a month.


Fucking 9 of them are listed in the very post you replied to, you daft cunt.

>>25831184
???
Did you bother reading what you replied to?
NO ONE
NOT A SINGLE SOUL
EVER
Said TCGs were the most expensive hobby

>Hurr hurr I buy yachts and they're more expensive than collector comic books retard
-You, being retarded

The point is that Pokemon is one of the cheapest, if not THE cheapest CARD GAMES
Not hobbies, card games. How did you not understand that before sperging out with your irrelevant shit?

>>25831216
>another retard
No one said it was cheap. Fuck, the post you replied to even linked to
>Cheaper doesn't mean it's not expensive
But Pokemon is OBJECTIVELY cheaper than other card games.

>>25831234
But I do like 3 of those and they are all far cheaper than card games. Along with my 5 other hobbies.
Actually, card games are the most expensive hobby I have ever had. It's not even close

Just started playing TCGO today. When doing the trainer challenges, does changing the difficulty really do much, in regards to rewards?

>>25831254
>But Pokemon is OBJECTIVELY cheaper than other card games.
Hearthstones cheaper.

Pokemon is expensive, card games are epxneisve. Get the fuck over it

>>25831205
unless it's states than it doesn't matter, just play what you find fun.

>>25831278

>f2p video game with not a single card ever printed and sold to the mass market ever even once

We really going to go there? Is this the route you want us to take?

Holy shit, can any of you guys trade me 3 Strong Energy and 3 Landorus with Shout of Power? Trying to get these fucks on trade chat to make fair trades is draining... Priority is on the 3 strong energy.

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>>25831279
But winning is fun

>>25831302
>It's not valid because I say so
And it's more competitively played than pogeymans

>>25831278
>Hearthstones cheaper.
>Can't purchase singles, only RNG packs
>No resale value
>Dust is consumer-unfriendly
>Adventures alone will cost you over $70
I somehow doubt that, but I don't know enough to argue

>Pokemon is expensive, card games are epxneisve. Get the fuck over it
Quote a single post saying otherwise, retard.

>>25831327
>Quote a single post saying otherwise, retard.
Then what the fuck are you even arguing about?

>>25831320
>because I say so

No? Because not a single card can be purchased. I'ts not a TCG. It's a video game.

Can I go to my LCS and buy a pack of hearthstone cards?

This isn't "Because I say so", this is "Because point A and point B"

>>25831338
About whether Pokemon is significantly cheaper than other card games, which it is.
Wait, you're telling me you came into a conversation with your shitposts without even knowing what it was about?

>>25831345
It not being a TCG does not not make it a card game.

>>25831278
>Pokemon is expensive, card games are epxneisve.

Cards games are expensive

Pokemon is not one of them

>>25831354

Sure, I'll agree with that. Nothing to argue against.

>>25831351
25% is significantly cheaper
I don't agree, I guess we end it here. Average high priced standard magic deck is 400, average high priced pokemon deck is 300.

>>25831358
Since it's not much cheaper than any other card game, it kind of is. Netrunner is significantly cheaper than pokemon.

>>25831369
>Average high priced standard magic deck is 400, average high priced pokemon deck is 300.
Again with the conflagaration.
The MOST EXPENSIVE Pokemon deck is 300.
The MOST EXPENSIVE Magic Deck is not 400. It's a lot more than that.

>>25831369
>Netrunner is significantly cheaper than pokemon.

I'm not familiar, so I'll take your word for it.

>>25831382
In standard? Yes, the most expensive standard magic decks are generally around 400. Last standard was an exception.

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post pulls, hopefully its better than what I got

>>25831313
you're in no state to win if you don't know what's the best

>>25828661
It's charizard. It doesn't matter how rare it is, people want it because MUH CHARIZARD.

So will I get yelled at if I ask for deck advice here? I'm new

Got a Charizard box and two Jirachi mythic collections today. Between the 8 packs I pulled a Flareon EX, a Sylveon EX, a Jolteon EX, and 3 of those FA Pikachus. Not amazing pulls considering the amount of packs and how high the pull rate seems to be with Generations packs, but far from bad. Definitely can't complain since I pulled a Jolteon.

>>25831499
Just ask

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>>25831512
I've been working on this deck, just wondering if there's anything I should replace or change

>>25831205
Where do you people live where you can play PHYSICAL pokemon?

>>25831603

New York

Also have an card/comic shop in almost every town.

>>25831184
what expensives retro games cost you that much?

>>25831603

I live in North Carolina and I can confirm that there is an active league in Fayetteville, Raleigh, Durham, Wilmington, and Jacksonville. There may be more in other cities in the state as well, but I know those cities have at least one LGS with an active league that meets at least once a week.

>>25831681
oh shit, where do you play?

>>25831579

Toronto basically the largest city / Pokemon player base in this Arceus forsakened country

>>25831692
>replacing the word god with Arceus

You actually are 15 aren't you?

>>25831404
fuck, I just finished a match too..what was it?

>>25831708

No, I just feel like using that for laughs and I sort of want to see something similar to DPt Arceus being an actual deck even though it was a meme deck back then

>>25831579
Drop Center Lady, Letter, Teammates, Judge, and Ace Trainer.
Center Lady is a bad card, this deck doesn't benefit from Letter, Teammates isn't good in an EX deck, and Judge/Ace Trainer are techs at best. You can keep them in if you want, but if you need room, they would be the first to go.
Regice isn't the best without DCE, but you can make it work if you really want to force it. You can try running Seismitoad EX instead, or just cutting it out altogether.
I would recommend adding in a set of 4 Max Elixer and maybe a third Palkia, since the deck really needs the energy and Manaphy+Golduck lets Elixer hit what's important.
I would also try to fit in 1-3 Shaymin and a set of Ultra Balls. Dive Ball is better, but Ultra Ball cuts down your hand size for Shaymin to draw you more cards. You can also try teching in a Hoopa if you want, but that's preference.

This is surprisingly competent for a new player. Just a heads up, though, Gyarados isn't a good deck. Not that you won't win a bunch with it online.

>>25831744
Not him, but why is Center Lady a bad card?

>>25831689

I mainly play at a shop called Gamers Guild which is technically in Spring Lake but is right there at the edge of Fayetteville. League is officially Sundays from noon until 2ish.

>>25831734
>for laughs
It's not funny.

>>25831802
A few different reasons.
The main problem is that it's a Supporter. Every turn you use a Center Lady is a turn you're not dropping Sycamore/Birch, Lysandre, Skyla, etc, all of which are more important cards that generate more advantage.
Healing 60 also doesn't matter all that much when most Pokemon are hitting for 75-100% of your HP each turn. It's very situational.
And the biggest problem is that a deck like this is already running Max Potion and Rough Seas.

>>25831313
>not that I'd ever do that!
Akuma, pls. Also, doesn't it make "smacking a baby" effortful?

>>25831392
>last standard was an exception
I see that you weren't playing during Phyrexia.

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>Get my 3 BP packs from ladder
>Open this
>They're ladder packs so this is untradable

FUUUUUUCK, why cant we unlock cards to make them tradeable for like 200G?

>>25832147

Or they could somehow let you craft new cards using excess locked ones ala Hearthstone

>>25831710
Charizard Generations box which apparently didn't get posted

that's gonna be the last time I give codes away since people don't bother posting pulls

so, is the greninja break deck in the pokemon strategy page any good? would you modify it in some way?
http://www.pokemon.com/us/strategy/unleash-the-giant-water-shuriken/

any pokemon cards that have an ability that activates when they're knocked out?

>>25832380
It's very solid, but there are a lot of preference changes I would make. Like dropping the Miltanks.

>>25832405
Chandelure, Froslass, Milotic.

>>25832419
what changes would you make? (also i'm thinking of putting a second octillery line in there because i have no shaymin)

>>25831744
Don't have shaymin, didn't really have anything else to use where regice is. I didn't know about the elixers so I'll add them in

Might add a third palkia if I get the chance.

>Just a heads up, though, Gyarados isn't a good deck. Not that you won't win a bunch with it online.
I only play online and it's done alright in vs and in tournaments so far

>>25832405
Voltorb, cofagrigus.

>>25832458
>in tournament
Did you fight a blonde-haired chick with a fairy deck yesterday?

>>25832477
I don't remember but possibly. I played agains a couple of decks focusing around xerneaus/-ex

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A few people responded earlier so i'll post the site

tcgone. net

This lets you play in older card formats for pokemon TCG. It was pretty cool to finally get to see what competitive base set was like. Raindance and Wigglytuff and haymakers wrecking face

>>25832495
I fought someone with your deck yesterday. My deck was M Gardevoir, Xerneas/Xerneas-EX, Whimsicott, and Aromatisse.
Pretty cool if that was you.

>play 6 energy
>starting hand is all 6

Cool game.

>>25832419
>>25832469
thanks. I was hoping there'd be a grass-type that I could combo with the revitalizer item.

Anyone else literally only winning single tickets from the bonus boxes?

>>25832517
If it was a girl in glasses with blue hair and a gray bandana, it was me

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>>25832505
I just played someone on this and he decked himself out with a base set deck. lol

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>mfw running a Legacy Steel deck with Plasma Steel Klinklang, Shift Gear Klinklang, Cobalion-EX, Cobalion NVI, Keldeo-EX+Float Stone combo, and a Registeel-EX tech.

I love it when they can't do shit to me because they decided to stuff their decks full of EXs...

>>25832680

Seconded, but I got a 100 token box before I started getting them.

in all seriousness
black and white legendary treasures is absolutely worthless in comparison to COL
and you get 1 COL after your first tournament win
that doesn't increase even if you win the whole thing
so your best best is to win the first round instantly leave the tournament and enter the next one only to win the first round
I did just that and then still ended up getting into the final because the person I was supposed to play against round 2 supposedly did the same thing

Boy I sure love drawing all copies of the same card in a row every fucking game without any change. Sure is exciting how every game is the exact same, me trying desperately to draw anything through my turn one topdeck mode thanks to 4 VS Seekers or a hand of energies. Every fucking game.

>fucking SIX game sin a row starting Jirachi with no way to draw in a fucking Maxie deck

Almost makes me want to not run VS Seeker, but then I'd just get 4 Lysandres.

>>25833419
Oh boy my opponent mulliganed my Shaymin + 2 Muscle Band, 2 VS Seeker, 2 energy start, let's see what two cards I get.
>stadium
>stadium
>my turn
>my final stadium
>I have a guaranteed loss turn two

Why fucking play.

>>25833419
Get good

>>25833475
The client can't sort cards for shit. Too often does weird bullshit happen that shouldn't in a card game. It's like shuffling a normal deck of cards and drawing 4 Queens off the top, the odds are way too low for the frequency the game shits out duplicate hands.

When I play Unown, I farewell letter for another Unown in almost 80% of my games. I don't know why it happens so fucking often, but it does. I have used Battle Compressor to find bullshit like 3 copies of a card in a row, only to use another compressor to find those same 3 still in a row. That doesn't even mention how often I see two of the same in a row. I don't fucking know why, but there's something fucked up about the shuffling engine.

>>25833475
When did getting good include probability manipulation powers?

>tfw the only place near me to physically play pokemon is a shitty small league that meets in a fucking burger joint once a month
Why is it so hard to find people to play this game? I live in a well populate darea

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>>25833419
it's just a shit game. I started playing it because of renewed poke-fever from the 20th anniversary hype/ mythical distribution/ mythical box & generations. At its core, it works best as a slow game of chance and skill where one opponent either plays safe Basics, or risky but powerful evolutions. However, after more than a decade of its existence, the game has atrophied into a schizophrenic game of chess and checkers fused together in one pain-filled experience.

>>25833748
That isn't it at all, the game is fine if you play physically, the client just shits the bed.

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>>25828676
>not playing it in paper

Also, I photographed my entire Draft Cube for someone else who wants to build one as well. Would /vp/ be interested in the list?

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>walks to sink
>dumps Pokemon card collection into sink
>sprays lighter fluid over cards
>lights match
>under my breath, "I tried my hardest to like you,"
>throw the match into the sink
>gets tails on the coin-flip
>set myself on fire and die

>>25833841
yes

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>>25834119
Okay then.

>>25833987
>get to hell
>hear the chanting "night march night march night march night march night march"

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>>25834151

>>25834179
I still love that Dark Charmeleon art

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>>25834200

>>25833841
I'd love to if I was still 15 and people played near me

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>>25833987
Fuggin' nice

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>>25834221

>>25834232
No one in my LGS plays it - that's why I bought all the old cards. Now we just draft with them. No one needs to buy their own cards and everyone can play if they want to.

Moving to Washington soon, anyone know what the scene is like in Seattle/Bellevue? I figure it's big due to being down the road from TPC HQ

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>>25831603
Florida
I live near a CoolStuff .inc store, where everyone plays pokemon.

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What is your favorite break pokemon and why isn't it Greninja?

>>25834324
been playing raticate-break/ariados for the lulz

its actually a lot of fun just terribly slow since ratbreak is basically a stage 2 that cant rare candy

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>>25834317
The one in Maitland? I was there Saturday and picked up stuff for my deck. My friends didn't realize it was Magic day but we stayed the whole time anyway.

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>>25834676
tfw these are not codes but some random genwunner posting whatever the fuck

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>>25834676
...aaaand that's it.

Cube Draft can be really nice when you build your cube to accompany the quirkiness the TCG brings with it. Evo chains are entirely possible even in draft. Sometimes you might even get ALL the pokémon if you're lucky.
All in all it makes for quite a relaxed game. Even just drafting can be a very satisfying experience - right before you lose all your games because of the coin hating you.

>>25834696
>codes are posted in the thread
>most people don't even post their pulls

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Crazy question but does anybody know how I could get my hands on a 1st edition base set 1 booster box

Not buying online just run across one. Garage sales? Old shops closing?


Also I grew up during base set and I heard something about there being a pre release raichu? I want to say I saw one of those. But i'm guessing i'm probably mistaken. Have a strong memory of seeing one of those in a kids binder but I could be wrong.

>>25834696
>genwunner

How to spot an insecure underage

You gave the guy a compliment, you know that, right?

Calling someone a "genwunner" is the exact same thing as calling someone an OG. You're acknowledging the fact that they've been around longer than you. That they have seniority.

It's not an insult. Nothing about it is an insult.

>>25834696


>WHAAAAA!!! GIMMIE CODES! WHAAAA!

For those if you who play physical

His old are you and how do you get away with it?

>>25834780
19
Who cares

>>25834780

23, and because it's mainly older people that play the game.

>>25834763
I've actually been playing with some of those exact cards since I was a kid. Feels good.
All the other cards probably were played by kids as well. It's nice to play with cards that have already been on adventures.

>>25834780
I get away with it by playing with other genwunners. :^) They're all MtG players and that's why we're drafting.

>>25834780
I've seen an older woman past her 40s show up to play at league.

>>25834796
>>25834780
Oh, yeah, I'm 28.

>>25834780

>how do you get away with it?

It's called most competitive Pokemon TCG players are most likely 20+ years old. In my area (or just the game in general) the Masters Division is larger than the Juniors and Seniors combined

>Implying kids can actually afford to play this game competitively without their parents commitment as well

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>>25834743
>Prerelease Raichu: Arguably the rarest card printed by Wizards. Rumored to have been about 6 to 50 made, some of which were retrieved by Wizards themselves. These cards came about during the printing of prerelease Clefable from Jungle, when some Base Set Raichu cards were attached to the side of sheets of Clefable cards. Wizards staff denied their existence for years, but have since confessed to the card's existence.

>>25834815
Kids play magic and yugioh and those are more expensive.

>>25834780
How do you get away with it? You go play it where other people are playing it physically. That tends to be a safe place. People don't care.

>>25834780
Be a respectable person and just play it. Don't be someone who gets told by others what to do and what not to do.

>>25834848

I swear, if I could make only one single Pokemon real it would be Raichu. It has been my favorite since day one and I wish they got more respect.

All I want is a Raichu of my own to snuggle with at night. ;_;

>>25834952
People actually do find it weird and creepy to hang around 9 year olds duringyour mid to late 20s

>>25834995
I don't let kids play with my cards.

Would anyone want to see some of my collection? I know its shit but i just started on buying more as opposed to when i was younger.

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>people posting codes during american hours and expecting pulls to be posted

>>25835135
>posting codes at all

Anyone on PTCGO have some Trevenants they'd be willing to trade me? Looking for 3-4 of the XY 55 ones. I have some BreakPoint packs to trade, or you can ask about cards, no idea what would be in demand besides Shaymin which I don't have.

>>25835162
you need the break evos? I only got the bkp one

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Anyone have any good Seismitoad EX decklists they like for standard?

I'm looking to get into that kind of deck

>>25835918
Yes

>>25835918
Never ask closed questions, anon. You run the risk of someone just saying "yes/no" and not continuing further.

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>>25835918

here you go senpai

Any ideas for a Crobat/Aegislash deck?
I've got 3 aegislash lines and 2 crobat ones
Also, can someone trade me dimension valleys?

>>25832260
I still think this model is better than hearthstone though, since you can trade.

I just wish there was a better way to organize your cards.

>>25834255
the german names are better than the english ones.

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Mega Beedrill from Japan's Champion Premium Pack.

Not the best picture, but Hazard Stinger seems to do 40, discard all energy attached to Beedrill, cause poison and paralysis with poison dealing 40 damage.

>>25834780
23

I play it at my LGS. Masters division is literally 10x larger than the seniors and juniors divisions and most of the masters are my age or older.

>>25836880

>another promo ex

already dropped

they've really gone overboard with this shit

>>25836903
It's not a promo, Premium Champion Pack is a 131 card set.

>>25836880
Is there a good way to set it up? Or do I need some kind of Substitute trickery?

>>25837207
Normal Attach + Mega Turbo. Turbo even synergizes with the attack.
If you play Unlimited, pair it with Celebi Prime.

With a Muscle Band/Giovanni's, Beedrill will do 180 damage over two turns on top of Paralysis.

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>>25834803
what a milf . . .

why can't the new skyla be played in legacy format?

>>25834780
Do you know that average age for pokemon players is 22, right? 23 for Ygo, and 25 for Mtg.

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>>25834780
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I look so out of place because I'm also a body builder.
Doesn't mean I can't enjoy a game of Pokemon cards

>>25837963
Don't feel bad.

How do we improve this game people?

>>25838275
Behead those who don't post pulls and remove coin flipping

Is doing all the trainer challenges worth it? I'm not short on packs or a standard deck (Im running Garchomp/Haw/Luc EX) but Im wondering what the reward structure is.

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>>25824161
I'm getting a whole lot of glitches today

>>25834780
I only play casual with my husbando or with my 9y/o cousin
I never let him win because he insists in cheating. I will go easy on him once he starts playing properly

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Mega Pidgeot when? I just want an excuse to use my FA Winonas and I don't want to play mfug.dek

new thread when?

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>tfw Night March plebs rage because they can't kill based Wailord

>>25839403
Now.

NEW THREAD
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