/pmdg/ - Pokemon Mystery Dungeon

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First for Mudkip fucking sucks and Skitty is OP

>>25738433
Remember to bite the pillow

>>25738433
Imagine if Skitty packed Adaptability along with Normalize.

>>25738411
Damnit, I was fixing up the OP for a new thread.
>REMIDER
And another thing for cheaters and desperate people: http://apointlessplace.net/wms/wmgenerate.html

I only played through maybe a 1/4 of the first mystery dungeon game (blue team).

I'm going to do a run of it. Anything tips before I start?

>>25738469
Have fun

>>25738469
remember to ask for rescues if need be

>>25738447
Imagine if Skitty had a good type changing ability instead of Normalize.

>>25738557
Imagine if Skitty actually had good stats.

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>>25738422
I also forgot to mention that Vulpix also gets Faint Attack as its special move (Riolu gets Bite, etc etc). It's no Dark Pulse, but it's a solid coverage move until you can find the TM.

>>25738433
makes me want to do an edit of Vegeta's Final Flash versus Cell(Mewtwo)
______ used Hyper Beam I know it's power isn't what it's suppose to be, but you know
Mewtwo lost his arm
Mewtwo used recover

>>25738482
>>25738476
Turns out my old save file is only 45 minutes long.

LOL

Who here /Psyduck/ with a side of Bulbasaur?

>>25738584
How would you say it handles otherwise? The only other special fire type I remember running was Charmander, which actually worked out pretty well considering that Stealth Rock is a non-issue

>>25738566
>skitty is the definition of shitmon in main games
>in pmd they're fucking broken

>>25738820
Every shitmon has the potential in MD.
what matters is how much time you're willing to spend on said shitmons

>>25738858
>skitty is one of two pokemon you cannot prepare for in PMD
>in a level 1 dungeon
>this makes Joyous Tower Skitty the deadliest thing that isn't Purity Forest Parasect

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>>25738411
That background was one of the main reasons I went Eevee/Pikachu in Sky. I just really like it.

Also, more art.

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>>25738898
These make for good desktop backgrounds

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>>25738927

>>25738411
>>25738898
>>25738927
>>25738950
The art style for these pictures is beautiful.

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>>25738772
I can't speak for playing as her, but as a partner she works solidly. Her defense is a little squishy, like she is in the main series (but it's not much different from Charmander's), but her special attack is good and her useful moves are sprinkled throughout, rather than not getting any at all. Quick Attack at 11 and Flamethrower at 24, and you're pretty much good to go for the most part.

I've seen comparisons say she's a weaker Charmander, but, well, that's why I liked her as a partner instead. Charmander's IQ set is more offensively-geared (stuff like Pierce Hurler and whatnot), and I like that stuff better in my hands rather than the AI's.

>>25738463
http://pastebin.com/0GBMMUZE
How is it?

>>25738772
Vulpix gets imprison, which works like Attract did in RT.

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>>25739043
WHAT

I didn't know this at all, holy shit

>>25739029
Looks good to me

>>25739075
Level 21, have fun

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Every single dungeon the game goes and makes sure I know that the partner's aren't the load, I am.

OBJECTIVE LIST OF COVER ARTS FROM BEST TO WORST:
Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon
Rescue Team
Explorers of Time
Explorers of Darkness
Explorers of Sky
Gates to Infinity

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Heh.

200 items in storage max is fucking suffering

>>25739238
You poor, poor soul. you did this to yourself

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>>25739043
attract is the worst in RBRT, jesus

>>25739370
it's been working out find for Espanon

>>25739370
>enemy delcatty with attract/sing/doubleslap
>attract and sing can be used on the same mon

I've been stuck in one spot by a Delcatty for 3 minutes before. Even if you're level 100, you miss, you're fucked for awhile

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You know it to be true

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>>25739550
It's clearly Jirachi.

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Did Nintendo approve this?

>>25739626
ironically...is DOES have feet

>>25739653
What do you think that dirt is?

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>>25739653
too lazy to rename

>>25739689
>>25739722
>what are pokedex footprints
they did exist at one point, but forgettable

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Is this an art thread now?

>>25739749
Oh right, forgot about that, but his is empty no?

http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-rs/050.shtml

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Why does Wigglytuff put up with this asshole's shit?

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>>25739765
There are worse things this thread could've turned into.

>you will never have smeargle teach you how to paint

>>25739765
Cyndaquil: "yay exploration"
Treecko: "calm down you hyperactive fuck"
Charizard: "why did I even connect with these"
Grovyle: "see that mountain? You can climb it"
Celebi: lewd thoughts, constantly

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somethings very odd here, is it just me?

>>25739786
yeah same, i can't stand people that use that excuse "oh you just had a bad dream, i don't trust you at all!"

>>25739867
why you guys always make the thread go super fast right when i fall asleep

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>Skitty and Mudkip's 2-star swap items in croagunk's shop

Things might finally be looking up for Mudkip

>>25739941
they'd look up even better if you completed some damned missions

jesus, that storage space hurts to see

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Silver Ticker Big Win! Is it anything good?

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>>25739970
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>25739899
BROTHER!!!
it's still adorable af

>>25739983
Now I can add more stuff to that Spinda's Cafe guide. I'll have to check what Big Wins get for every ticket.

>>25740064
Doesn't Bulbapedo have a complete list?

>>25740075
Oh hey it does

>>25739841
>"yay exploration"
Looks more like "Heil Hitler" to me.

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>be younger me, i forget when
>first time playing mystery dungeon
>be riolu, eevee partner
>delete attract right away, cause i only use damaging moves
>tfw never realized my slutty partner's potential
>never realized my slutty partner's wily tactics could have been beneficial to our team

>>25739749
>forgettable
Not when you're in the PMD thread.

>>25740216
EoS toned down Attract since it added genders. but yes, it was a monstrosity in RRT/BRT

>>25739983
>Mudkip with Blizzard
Fantastic, you now have niche use to your partner in your ability to clear monster houses.

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>just got Gap Prober
>get this

Time for these enemies to chill out

>>25739970
>>25740289
shit, you're winning seriously big

>>25740305
I'd rather have Water Pulse, but this'll work for now.

>>25740289
>hack cubone in as main character
>get gap prober
>have bonemarang

THE HOUR OF DOOM IS UPON YOU ENEMY POKEMON

problem is i still have a hard time with ghosts and levitatos

>>25740322
also nobody probably did this before, but if you cast bonemarang onto a teammate with gap prober, it keeps going in a sinewave pattern forward for infinity

>>25740432
webm needed

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>>25740439
funny enough i had already started making one

>>25740486
it's like a shitty Wave Beam

>>25740486
What does it look like when Cyndaquil is 2 spaces away?

>>25740289
>Two Ice moves on a mon with no STAB
Okay?

>>25740557
I need range, and I don't need Tackle when Skitty has normal moves.

>>25740030
Do you plan on opening magnagates together?

>>25740557
Ahh, yes, but Skitty's gimmick is that it gains STAB on Blizzard due to Normalize.

Which is still terrible.

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>>25740553
it looks great

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>>25740564
no idea what that is.....
also something happened, a guy just used roar and... this

>>25740562
You don't need tackle when the basic attack is a infinite PP tackle for skitty

>>25740599
You can get blown through walls if you have Super Mobile.

>>25740600
The basic attack doesn't really get turned to Normal, right?

>>25740619
All attacks, including typeless attacks

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This is for Apple Woods you motherfucker

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>>25740634
Oh right.

>>25740599
Nevermind, it was a GtI reference.

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>finally learns an actual attack
>it's worse than water gun

>>25740646
Either way they now need a meddling Flareon

>>25740322
This might be a stupid question, but how do you hack Cubone as your main? Can you choose any Pokemon?

>>25740719
There's some changer i think. Chances are the
portraits/animations are all fucked, like waking up at the bluff

Are you a bad enough dude to make it through this whole thing without sobbing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3NViQg0VXI

>>25740719
Sky Editor lets you edit the ROM and choose whichever starters and partners you want for each nature in the personality quiz.

>>25740646
I feel like I should get the reference but I don't. Help an anon out?

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>>25740730
>>25740736
Thanks friends, I found it. Looks cool, now I might be able to build my dream team. Does it work ok for the story part of the game?

>>25740771
Should do. Unlike Rescue Team, Explorers doesn't lock up when your edited characters do animations.

>>25740771
Espanon is saving this

>>25740779
i'm curious though, what about the animations anyways? Do we just run in place when we wake up again?

>>25740785
Yep. The whole running in place thing seems to be what the game does when it can't play an animation.

>>25740799
Lame.

I totally should have looked into this more instead of saying "fuck it, mudkip." It's too late to change, though, but i feel like i really should because Mudkip will be ignored. What do i do? Play through to the very end of the story and do it again in awhile?

>>25740799
Do you happen to have a webm of this? Not exactly sure what you mean.

>>25740771
>>25740782
i expect photos when you get to that point

>played through Sky postgame 6 times
>never bothered to look at the options menu
>see screenshots in this thread
>wonder how mudkip guy got something other than a control list on the top screen
>look it up
>feel dumb

A-at least I know the controls pretty well by now, r-right?

Thinking about the starter hacking stuff makes me think i should give up this run and start anew. I have fast forwards anyways, and i have no qualms with Wonder Mailing myself those IQ Boosters/Miracle Chests again since I deserve them.

What do you guys think? End this run prematurely? I want to play through all the postgame stuff with my starters, which i feel like i can't do with Mudkip because there's just other things i could be using in it.

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>>25740885
Pic related, i'm all the way here

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oh, you're made to be the ultimate fighting machine? that's cute

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>>25740816
>>25740885
>>25740902
Okay, that's it. I'm ending the run here, and starting anew with custom starters. How do I change the starters?

>>25740619
It does but remember, in PMD, STAB>Super Effective.

>>25740998
Download this version of Sky Editor http://dl.uniquegeeks.net/SkyEditorBeta/ (the most recent one is shit and the older ones can't do it).
Open up your ROM with it, go into the Personality Test section, and the rest should be pretty self-explanatory.

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>>25741073
This keeps happening and i don't see a Personality Test section

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>>25741123
Silly me i clicked the wrong Sky thing.

But what the hell is this?

>>25741145
When it's finished loading you should be able to choose the Pokémon you want for each nature, and your partners. If you want a certain Pokémon, just fill all the male boxes with it.

>>25741177
Alright i got it now. One more thing, can I rename my starters in the future with this?

>>25741214
If you open up your save file you should be able to rename your Pokémon, yes.

>>25741242
This works for me, thanks

>>25741252
No problem. Who are you running this time around?

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And so ends the journey of Mudkip and Skitty, who went to the Hidden Land and probably saved the world or something

And in another parallel universe another adventure starts that'll most likely go over better than that ever did.

>>25741275
Who else? The duo I should have ran from the start.

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Funnily enough Wooper's one of the few non starter pokemon to actually get other portraits than default. Thanks Wigglytuff

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Already Mudkip's moveset is getting flat out embarrassed by this.

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>>25741417
Turns out Mud Shot's real great against bosses due to lowering speed.

so, right now I have to get Deoxys and Mewtwo, i've tried multiple times for Deoxys and nothing, and Mewtwo is another floor 99 boss
what else can I do?

>>25741455
Mewtwo requires 2 trips. Deoxys has a -10% recruit rate. With a friend bow that goes up to 0%, and taking into account level 90+, you'll have about a 24-25% chance of recruiting it.

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>>25740645
bonemarang son

>>25741471
lvl 70 with friend bow, still fucking annoying

>>25740719
i used the AR code 122B5158 00000068
where the 68 is 104 (cubone's number) in hex

>>25740734
nigga I'm misting up just looking at the fucking video thumbnail

>>25740877
options is always the first thing i open in a game

just force of habit by now, since everything is always wrong

Time to get some legit items now.

>>25741484
have fun

>>25741281
that's an adorable team

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>>25741530
Wooper's my favorite pokemon, no way am i evolving it into a still very good, but not quite as good as Wooper pokemon. Mareep's right behind that, and will evolve at the end plus i can just imagine that it goes on to be SMD's guildmaster or something

>>25741545
>Not evolving them into the primary protagonists for the next two games
I think you need to reevaluate your decision, hmm.

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>>25741558
I mentioned this earlier, with few exceptions, i like the base forms more. Wooper's too cute to evolve. Ampharos just happens to be an exception, though.

>>25741592
But it would be an amazing ending to your story if Wooper and Mareep travelled to distance lands, kept in touch, and began educating the pokemon in faraway lands in the ways of friendship, exploration and criminal apprehension, hmm?

>>25741623
I'll consider it. I mean, one reason i had for never doing the whole evo stuff is no animations, and those are just gone when you use customs anyways.

>>25741623
the story could be that wooper evolved after they parted ways

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Decided to start my own Sky run using custom starters and the PMD randomiser

Pic related: Drenched Bluff

>>25741592
i want to lewd the ampharos

it's kinda cute/funny to imagine guildmaster ampharos as a dopey sheep partner with balance issues

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that's the good stuff right there again


Should I stick that Sky editor in the Exploration Pack? I mean I put it together to begin with

>>25741651
god damn everyone's doing Sky again

>>25741657
Ampharos is for BFF's, you dirty perv

>>25741662
Do it. This thing looks snazzy.

>>25741711
The OP of the next thread needs to include this version. I'll do the next thread, instead

New Exploration Pack link. Includes rom editor, and a little Notepad file for newcomers which explains a couple things.
https://mega.nz/#!TUEBhRQY!mfpcugVQp_aVbNVNDoJjElo3c__57V0s6O45ftnMSHQ

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BROTHER

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>Wooper
>pulling anything

>>25741848
He uses the same hand for ice punching.

>>25741870
dick punch?

>>25741870
So Wooper just pulls with his tail? Must be how he throws items too.

>>25741880
>you've reached the destination floor!
>but where's the target?

Fuck you game you owe me a gummi

>>25741822
WOOPER!?
WHAT A WHOPPER!

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>when the enemy wooper hits the mud shot just right

it's all good i can rescue myself

Mega Dungeons when?
Can connect with a team up to 4 players, tackling mega dungeons, 4 times the size of a regular dungeon, at the end of the dungeon will be rare items you can't get anywhere else.

Something fun like Spinda cafe should make a return, where you can play mini games to get points to spend on IQ raising items, or perks like that. You get extra points if you play with other people.

>>25742018
I'd love that sort of multi team thing

you'd have to spread out and explore the gigantic floors until someone finds the exit

voice chat enabled because bad decisions are good decisions

>>25742072
>why the FUCK did you use Surf, blastoise?

>>25742072
Nah, raiding is never about cooperating anymore unless it's for a boss. Even then, the only one that has to be paying attention is the healer.

>>25742072
>>25742076
i want one-room orbs back

i love the idea of just fucking DEMOLISHING an entire floor

In super, What is the most Ideal move set for treecko?

>>25742113
I'd imagine something involving Energy Ball

>>25742113
>>25742166
>Best Moveset for Treecko?
Swords Dance (or attack boosting move of your choice) / Dual Chop / Bullet Seed (if you can still get it in SMD) / Filler

>>25742301
agility for filler

>>25742304
Agility is mediocre since 5th gen since the rework to how movement speed interacts with attacks.

Room-wide orbs cover you for monster houses, and I have yet to find a monster house that isn't tied to a connection orb quest in SMD.

Just grab another offensive move to add longevity to your runs.

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>all these people having fun playing and 100%ing RT/Sky
>want to join in too by trying to recruit everything in Explorers
>reluctant to 100% my physical copy of Time, knowing that it's an inferior game
>toaster's so slow that emulating Picross DS causes incredible slowdown, and fast-forwarding through GBA games occasionally causes the game to freeze

Dark Matter wishes it could feed off of this much agony.

What's the best way to farm gold in SMD?

I want to use Hawlucha's move tutoring a bunch, but it costs and arm and a leg. So, I need 10's of thousands of gold to fuel my ambitions.

Where do I go / what do I do?

>>25742380
Do runs of Super Apple Forest. Fresh apples sell quite high - 100 for regular, 250 for big, and 500 for perfect.

There's often a Kecleon shop on the final floor, so if you're feeling particularly tough you can sell your apples there and then steal them back.

>>25742380
Beats me. Like a lot of things in this game, if you want to find gold, it's random, although past a certain point, I believe it can pop up in any dungeon. I don't think you can use the early dungeons to exploit that, though. I didn't mess around enough with it to be certain, though. I was just using the early dungeons to pass time.

Just started up sky again, why is this game perfect?

Is super any good? I havent heard much, but what i have heard is that its good

>>25742514
492, recruiting, and a pretty great story makes it lovable.

the non-infinite storage isn't lovable though

>>25742434
RIP Trawl Orb

>>25740753
Umbreon and Espeon from Gates to Infinity. The NPCs I mean.

So tell me /pmdg/ what are the best partners for Cubone in Blue Rescue team?

>>25743346
>When you bump into them in Super
Your crazy kids

>>25743617
Try a fire type partner - they'll cover the Grass and Ice weaknesses, and iirc there aren't any bosses in the main storyline that use Water moves.

>>25741281
>abandoning your team
You monster.

>>25744060
Cool thanks

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>>25742514
Both the games are in my top five favorites for vidya, albeit for different reasons. Sky I find a little comfier. The stories though are really what makes both these games stand out to me.

The desire for comfiness can end backfiring and throwing you into completely uncomfy situations:

>sleeping, dream starts
>PSMD, but in some kind of volcanic dungeon
>team is Pikachu MC, Magnezone, Machamp and some other two pokemons I couldn't identify. Yes, five mons
>room full of dozens some other kind of hostile pokemon I couldn't identify
>For some reason I could control the actions of all mons in my team
>Magnezone spamming zap cannon from an isolated platform in hope these things don't reach it
>They reach it, Magnezone down, it goddamn explodes
>time skip
>only one hostile pokemon left, some kind of boss
>surround it with the remaining team, Machamp moving last
>throw Pikachu away from the boss, it was in low health
>the sudden realization that you fucked up falls upon the rest of the team
>Pikachu was thrown into a lava pool, it dies, becomes a ghost with a deformed face

>>25744695
lol jeez

>>25742333
Better upgrade to a microwave

>>25744428
plz forgive

>>25744695
>not bringing some reviver seeds
your fault

>>25745266
never

>you will never carry out an expedition to the hidden land
>you will never feel the subtle creepy vibes, as if two pokemon had suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced
>you will never be pelted with worn out scarves, thorns, and expired berries
>you will never run out, screaming, abandoning your teammates
>you will never be able to suppress a slight shiver when looking at either a mudkip or a skitty for some reason

>>25745614
it's not like that save is deleted, they're just chilling out on the 3rd floor or so with Grovyle

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>>25745647
For eternity, anon? That's just cruel.

You should just sack up and finish the mission for their sake.

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>>25745954
fine

>>25746220
>Everyone just nodding and agreeing with Skitty
>Out of fear
>Of Skitty

>>25746220
thank

At the very least, just graduate from the guild.

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Turns out this fight is pretty easy when you X-Eye Dusknoir and have two Blizzard users

>>25746250
That's where I'm ending it, though.

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Can't we just take the stoneship now? I mean it's not like they can do anything

>>25746262
That's okay; just saving the world is enough for your gimped team.

Seriously though, why does the Mystery Dungeon world have so many regulatory artifacts and locations? Temporal Tower, the Tree of Life or whatever it was called, Time Gears, and God knows what else is hidden across the continents.

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>be me
>start a new game in sky
>some of these questions are funny
>get to pic related
>my sides

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>>25746396

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>>25738858
>>25738820

>mfw Swift Swim Lumineon
>mfw Unburden Drifblim
>mfw any long-range multi hit move

Going to start Sky soon. Is it similar to Shiren the Wanderer?
Also what gens are available in it? I have to know if my bro Pawniard is in.

>>25746418
1-4 excluding Arceus, if you want Pawniard you'll need to play Gates or Super

Espanon is fucking pissed at FUCKING DEOXYS
just.... just why
although, Deoxys gave me an idea for the main games
everyone remember the good old VGC 2016 rules? Xerneas.... Xerneas everywhere
I doubt this, but maybe Deoxys could be enough to defeat it once and for all, I doubt it

>>25746416
Add IQ groups and the sky is the fucking limit.
It depends on which layer of the sky, though; some reach the exosphere, while some languish in the troposphere

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We're here.

Just finished Gates after playing Super, then Sky.

Super: Gameplay>Story
Sky: Gameplay=Story
Gates: Gameplay<Story

Is Rescue Team good?

>>25746490
I mainly meant trying to fight them.

>>25746485
well fuck me, of all pokemon to be banned, Deoxys..... truly we are fucked when it comes ti the meta

>>25746524
RT's basic, but solid. If you're going into it last it'll definitely feel kind of bare in some ways, since it was the first go at PMD and everything, but I still think it's a lot of fun, and there's plenty of dungeons to explore. Friend areas help the world feel a little more vibrant and populous, too.

IN sky, there's an item named fire veil for moltres that gives it a chance to survive fatal damage with 1 hp. If I had a bag full of them, would they stack?

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And so the story ends on a high note. Meanwhile, one Wooper and Mareep team's story is just starting.

>>25746704
If you have two of the same stat upping swap item they don't stack, i'd assume that'd be the same way

Do all Pokemon even out eventually in Sky? Surely there must be some point where Anorith (+1 in 3 stats for a fuckload of levels) gets level ups like Spinarak (+3 in all for roughly 15 levels)

>>25746773
Some just get better levelups, but it might take awhile. Kecleon for example gets +1 to hp and nothing more until level 26 or so, where it gets +20 per levelup to everything

>>25746757
Oooh, are you gonna swap out your team? Why wooper and mareep? Good levels? Discharge? Favorite pokemon? Good exclusive items?

Post game is so neat. I love making new teams, it pissed me off that they removed reliable recruits in SMD.

>>25746338
Presumably it's probably because the magic holding everything in balance is unstable or something

>>25746799
They don't call it KEKleon for nothing

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>Drifblim with Sky Gem

Holy fuck, triple speed all the time is terrifying

Evens decides the fighting-type I train along with my Honchkrow.

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>>25746861
Is it ever explained why keck is so good?

>tfw espeon not showing any emotion like some other pokemon in dialogue boxes is making this less fun than I thought.

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>>25746808
Wooper and Mareep are my favorite unevolved pokemon in the series, I can't play gen 2 without them. Their swap items are good, too.

Wooper's a member of one of the best IQ groups, getting stuff like trap immunity, double hit normal attack, and map revealing. Mareep enjoys +5PP to everything through Multitalent, as well as some other nice skills. There's no other team I'd rather use. Pic related, it's my Wooper on cart, the best lead mon I have that isn't Jirachi.

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Get off my back Chatot

>>25746927
Pure greed. In game, probably some kind of worldly traveler who's had access to all kinds of power.

>>25746934
>All those 255s

Oh baby. How much does a basic attack do? How long did it take you to get there?
do you feel empty after reaching the absolute? I'm scared ;o;

>>25746978
Interesting, how does the game handle your wooper/mareep using emotes that don't exist for them?

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>>25746986
>how much does a basic do

About 125 or so times two, thanks to Quick Striker

It takes a fuckton of gummis/trips to Sky Peak's Secret Bazaar. It's not even my strongest mon, here's what Jirachi looks like without swap items. Jirachi has eaten literally every single Life Seed/Sitrus Berry in the game that wasn't found in ZIS due to Nature Gifter.

>>25747000
The game just doesn't show them. Mareep has no portrait aside from default, but Wooper has a few due to being in Igglybuff's episode. Obviously not as much as an actual starter, but still.

>>25746978
get off my case or I'm going to shove the fucking apple up your cloaca if I can find any room with that stick up your ass

Just imagine my image would be one of thosE 200% angry images, since I'm on mobile

>>25746978
How did you change your starters? I'm trying to figure out the editor but I don't see the option anywhere.

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Wooper gets actual good IQ skill number 1

>>25747024
Pick the topmost Sky option, the lowermost one doesn't seem to work right. Check the Personality Quiz section or whatever it's called. You'll have to choose who you want each quiz result to give you, so you can just make it all one pokemon if you want.

>>25747045
Welp, seems like I'm not using the same editor as you, which explains some things. What's yours?

>>25747060
It's the one i threw into the most recent Mega link, granted it comes with the games and rom which are pointless if you already have it. Some anon posted it here >>25741073

>>25747067
Alright thanks! Cubone/Mareep duo incoming.

>>25747122
Here's hoping Lightningrod doesn't affect partners. I'd assume it doesn't.

>>25747156
Actually I think it does, maybe

I haven't tried it yet

I think there are ways to disable your ability, though

>>25747209
I'd hope it doesn't, you could do a Pika/Cubone duo on RT i think

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>>25744695
sounds pretty spooky

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Moving on up

>>25746418
The gameplay is similar, but except some postgame stuff it's easier. Also the formula is different. If you know about Shiren 3, that's how it's structured. Basically there are many dungeon instead of a main one that you need to complete. You can also take specific missions in these dungeons.
In the postgame you unlock some level 1 dungeon that work like a Shiren or a classic roguelike, but they have no plot.

>>25747520
>In the postgame you unlock some level 1 dungeon that work like a Shiren or a classic roguelike, but they have no plot.
That's fine by me, I usually play things like Angband. Also thanks.

Last question, is there an equivalant to Thick Club for Cubone in this? I wanna hit like a truck.

>>25747604
If you're playing Rescue Team, no. Power Bands do raise your attack stat, but they're ubiquitous. Even EoS doesn't have an Exclusive Item equivalent just for Cubone, but the Brown Silk item raises Attack by 10 and Defense by 7, which applies for all Ground types in the party.

>>25747604
Best you'll get is the Power Band really. I guess a Munch Belt too, but that drains your hunger. Marowak's swap item eliminates Grass weakness, making those moves HEAL you. It works for Cubone as well. lower tier.

If you can get ahold of some Brown Silk which is on 10f of zero isle north, needs a key, more a postgame item just having it around boosts your attack

>>25747640
>>25747647
Alright then. Time to tank meanwhile.

>>25747683
I should mention something about Mareep. Ampharos's swap item, the Sacred Scarf, gives the Mareep family no weakness, making Ground attacks heal it. So instead of killing your friend with earthquake, you're now healing them every time

>>25747703
Whoa shit, looking forward to that.

>>25747303
The funny part is that I don't even like pikachu and I only used it once in a half completed EotT run fuckton of years ago, before EotS was a thing even
I genuinely thought there wasn't much to do after the graduation

>>25747725
The best part of my run is Wooper gets a similar item for Grass. If things go right, I'll have no weakness.

playing red rescue team and the writing is really cringe inducing
>roll out
>let's roll
>let's knock off

no one talks like this, not even pokemon. not to mention the constant flashbacks to shit that happened 2 minutes ago

>>25747800
I think they could have eliminated flashbacks completely in both rt and tds and nothing of value would have been lost

>>25747800
>not even pokemon
You don't know that

>>25747800
If I was a ball shaped pokemon I would say let's roll all the time just to piss people off

>>25747921
>Graveler Pokemon
>"Rescue Team! Transform and roll out!"
>"Does he say this every time?"
>"Every time."

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Reminder that this happened

>>25747933
>Snorunt appears
>"ICE to see you!"

>>25748042
>"Snorunt, do you have to say that every time?"
>"Chill"

>>25748055
>spawns in a monster house
>"There's snow escape!"

>>25748069
>Charizard uses Heat Wave
>"Time to heat things up!"

So I got bored blasting through Sky with Smokescreen after I got past Groudon. What starter and partner should I use?

>>25748080
>"Cool it, hot rod!"

>>25748080
>Marowak finds an outlaw
>"I got a bone to pick with you!"

>>25748088
Phanpy lead, eevee partner

Just kidding, roll with Piplup and Skitty

>>25748118
>Cubone rescues someone from a dungeon
"Don't worry. everything's going tibia okay."

>>25748131
>Tangle enters a dungeon
>it aint me starts playing

>>25748146
>X uses Attract!
>Y is immobilized by love!
>Careless Whisper starts playing

>>25748080
>Aerodactyl uses Agility
>Uh oh, gotta speed up!

>>25748192
>Drifblim used Omnious Wind!
>"You're too slow!"

>>25748205
>X fainted
>X used Reviver seed
>"I thought you died"
>"Oh no, not me."

Shouldn't Wooper be immune to the bullshit gas attack? He has no nose.

>>25748205
>Drifblim spams Minimize to +10
>"your chances of winning are minuscule!"

>>25748190
>X equips the Awakening emera
>The Touch starts playing

>mewtwo with the havoc robe
>"it's no use!"

>>25748226
And it can't breath with its mouth?

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Goodbye worse than useless move and hello still pretty bad but not as bad move

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yo that ain't fair

>>25741651
You should post your progress more often, it would be cool I think

>>25748435
>>25748441
I guess my timing was perfect.

>>25748435
>this zero isle east layout

What dungeon was this supposed to be?

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I want to die.

>>25748456
Far Amp Plains. Gave me four Golden Seeds, amazingly.

>>25748441
Anything in particular you want so see?

>>25748591
Not him but just give up updates whenever you find a sweet item/strange enemy, that sort of stuff

>>25748118
I decided to go Eevee lead, Phanpy partner

time to find out how shitty Phanpy really is

>>25748653
Enjoy Ancientpower being the only good non Normal move it learns. Its only STAB is Natural Gift while holding a Reviver/Reviser Seed. or Earthquake

>>25748690
time to restart

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>tfw getting triggered when i see this look for the dungeon

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Storage filling up with all these rare items which are completely useless to me yet I can't bear to throw away

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I can't get over how much I enjoy this game.

Picked some scrub starters cause muh favorites and then decide to take on some bulletin missions. Few hours later, I lose to a monster house after expending all my orbs on one of those huge rooms that just happened to have a ton of mons in it. That's okay though at least I keep my exp.

tl;dr: I've been playing this all day and I have no intention of stopping.

>>25748859
i always get the same way with mystery dungeon

I happen to enjoy dungeon crawlers because I'm a compulsive hoarder in games, but i genuinely also enjoy pmd of its own merit

i always wanted a game where you could BE a pokemon

>>25748822
i always keep one of everything unless i KNOW it's easily replacible or completely useless to me

I don't keep orans and escape orbs anymore unless I'm saving up for AN EVENT cause I can just run the dojo for them

>>25748859
Same here, even though I just finished a run, i restarted with custom starters. I don't know why, but there's something about pmd that just draws me in like other games cant.

>>25748898
Yeah I can relate to that. Shit, I used to have dreams about waking up as one and going on adventures - would always sleep in late in order to get those most out of those.

>>25748942
That's great anon, who did you pick?

>>25748965
Wooper/Mareep. The two don't have as much starting HP as most starters, but who cares?

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It's a real shame that this layout was only used for the last 3 floors of Destiny Tower.

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>>25748975
also you have good taste in teammates

really cute faves you got there

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>>25749064
thanks

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kinda wish there was a way to alter an actual Pokemon's attributes for EoS, like improving a movelist or not fucking a Pokemon up with conflicting abilities looking at you, Lucario

>>25749096
>not eating an X-Eye Seed in a boss fight for a speed boost

And on the other hand you have that piece of shit Bronzong.

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>>25749035
Yep, Quicksand Pit is definitely Destiny Tower now.

>>25749141
>enter Deep Quicksand Pit
>it's populated entirely by Numel/Drifblim/Chatot/Crawdaunt

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>>25749141
>you get to what should be the final battle
>it's a Drifblim House!

>>25749204
that's a nice pic, who drew it? an anon here?

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>>25749220
I asked someone in the drawthread to draw a drifblim version of pic related

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>>25749204
>Drifblim's Unburden raised its speed!
>Drifblim used ominous wind!
>Drifblim is at double speed!
>Drifblim used ominous wind!
>Drifblim is at triple speed!
>Drifblim used ominous wind!
>Drifblim is at quadruple speed!

SO MANY REVIVER SEEDS
GONE

>>25749284
Drifblim House as the final boss. They only know Minimize and Ominous Wind.

Are you a bad enough dude to win without a reviver seed?

Why is speed increasing moves important in PMD?

>>25749341
in everything except gates it allows you to attack multiple times in one turn

if i remember correctly, super allows 1 extra attack, and rbtds allow up to 3 extra attacks

i kinda forget if that's right though, someone will have to confirm or deny

>>25749341
Unlike in the main series, every Pokemon moves at the same time. Boosting speed gives you extra moves.

In SMD, what level do you need to be before pokemon stop going on break?

I was under the impression that pokemon equal to or lower in level to you wouldn't go on break, but I just had a level 30 mon (my main is level 31, partner is 28) go on break. This is really frustrating since literally the expedition before that I spent pumping drugs into that guy to make him a monster. This isn't the first time he's done it either, he's been going on break after every time I use him.

What gives? Is it because my partner was 28, or will they just continue to go on break forever?

>>25749573
i think it's just random

unfortunately

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PMD games should have multiple save slots. Even just two would be great. I kind of see the reasoning behind single saves in the mainline games, but why these? I want to play the story in Super again and try to get a better understanding of some of the exposition dumps (because everything became a bit of a blur after the story and postgame re uniting). I don't have the heart to delete my save, even if I were to pick the same starters. Not to mention losing my postgame progress.

Which reminds me, you unlock the jukebox songs by leveling up your rank, right? How many levels could there possibly be after Gold? I have so many songs to unlock still.

>>25749589
Make a backup of your save using svdt, savedatafiler or jk's.

>>25749294
Petrify orb ;)
Discharge at petrified accuracy ;)))

>>25749573
They'll never stop going on breaks completely, but as your level goes up compared to theirs they'll do it less often.

>>25749604
>But a mysterious power prevented its use!
>there's a lone cubone in the fight too

>>25749621
I'm fucked ;)))

UNLESS

Blizzard hits all of them, because Luxray is secretly Electric/Ice

>>25749652
Odds are you'd miss at least one or two, and one's enough to do it.

>>25749589
this is why i think they need new game plus in pmd

they could use that opportunity to make it really tough as well


anyway you start getting 3 songs at once for a bit, i forget what the song unlock progression was

Super is going to be my first PMD game, does my starter make any huge difference or should I just pick my favorite?

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>>25749676
NG+ Would be fun, or just a barebones 'story' to push some along to 100% completion. Don't get me wrong, SMD's gameplay is a lot of fun and I love the Emeras, but it's a little difficult to find the drive sometimes. All I want is some partner dialogue everyday or something. Does anything happen if you 100% the game in SMD? That's your partner's dream after all.

>>25749792
some starters have an easier time than others but it's easy to make any of them work

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>>25749792
Pick your favorite. SMD was my first too (since Red Rescue that is), so when I started I tried to keep in mind which Pokemon wouldn't be available in the previous entries in case I wanted to go back and play them after SMD (Which I do now), so I tried to avoid picking Gen1-4 starters.

Ended up falling in love with my partner perhaps too much. I had never even used fennekin before, and probably won't use them in any mainline games, but they're my favorite now.

>>25749795
what i want in EVERY game with a sort of partner is context sensitive conversation bits

like seriously, hire 2 guys to just flesh out the partner in every room they can think of, make like 5 misc dialogues per area/story point / game state/ whatever, this should be standard for every game, it adds so much to the character

>>25749795
>>25749910
oh man i just thought of something

after 365 dungeon runs, the partner could say "you know this all started a year ago, how crazy!" or something, and every 365 the partner could wake you up and say something sweet like "another year and still helping those in need" or some shit, i dunno

Why are MD games more fun than mainline games?

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>>25749910
This is not a bad idea at all. Part of the reason I can't get into postgame is the lack of flavorful banter I became accustomed to in the main story.

Cubone/Mareep guy, does your starters ever evolve? I'm guessing I need to clear the game first or something.

>>25749948
double the abilities

>>25749948
For me it's a few things. The freedom in team creation is something i love, because pokemon that are bad in the main games can finally shine here.

That and the challenge they pose. Apart from a few points, the main games feel too easy, and even those spots you can just spam potions if you're bad enough. The MD games aren't afraid to have hard spots.

>>25749948
Infinite replayability, all Pokemon are viable, better story, better music, better characters, better atmosphere.

>>25749978
You can't evolve your starters until you've finished the postgame story

>>25750012
>all Pokemon are viable
I wouldn't go that far. At least in Explorers, even some pokemon are objectively bad. All the base forms of the early route bugs like Caterpie, Magikarp, and anything with a hindering ability, especially Shuckle/Lopunny

>>25750034
Barring the cocoon bugs, Magikarp and Wobbuffet, any Pokemon can be good. The only thing they're hindered by is moves learned and Gluttony.

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>>25749948
An actual interesting story pushing you along, emphasis on YOU, because it's a very engaging game-and-player relationship, at least in my opinion. I mean, plenty of games have sad endings, but few are as truly effective as the MD games (In my case, none have been as effective in MD) because of how much of an effort there is to develop one solid relationship between YOU and your partner throughout the whole story, as opposed to developing a relationship between Cloud and his entire party (as a random, well enough known example) at different intervals because there are always people coming and going.

Also 10/10 soundtracks that are way more diverse than not only Pokemon but a lot of games.
Also not fall-asleep-easy.
Also a lot more cute and charming.
Also pic related.

>>25750034
I mean, pumping their stats to 255 each (and presumably 999 for HP) would pretty much make any Pokemon viable.

Wanting to raise multiple pokemon as viable teammates is hell on earth.

gotta get a viable water and fire type somehow

>>25750079
Even with 255 in all stats, Gluttony doubles hunger drain. Fully exploring a floor means you lose 20+ hunger a floor, even on short ones

>>25750105
That and well, if you can get a mon to 255, why the hell would you pick something with an ability as bad as "no hold items"

Does Gluttony at least have any benefit?

>>25750099
the home-levelling in gates was absolute genius

i keep saying this, but readd at-home leveling and make iq abilities unlock based on level, and the team building aspect of the game is fixed, basically

you just have to use them, or your good guys or a while, and they become better anyway, rather than force feeding them metric tons of candy to make them smarter and having to bring them along and protect them so they get a bit of EXP

>>25750130
In SMD i think it restores some HP when you eat anything, and I think it doesn't drain hunger there too. In Explorers it's entirely hindering, with no benefit. If you REALLY wanted to use Shuckle, make it a partner.

>>25750105
Tight Belt?
>>25750116
literally only lopunny

>>25750130
It makes food items restore 10% more belly and sometimes prevents the negative effects of grimy food

>>25750175
>only 10%
>sometimes prevents
So literally useless.

>>25750157
>tight belt
Good luck getting it without being a filthy cheater

>lopunny
I'm still pissed from when i grinded a buneary's IQ without an iq booster to get a lopunny for recruitment

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>>25749971
>>25749941
>>25749910
All of this so much. Like, the developers seriously couldn't write a pot of dialogue to draw from randomly everyday instead of "It's a great day for an expedition!" every single day?
I nearly shit my pants in surprise when I accidentally tapped A next to my partner in a dungeon and they said "I can still take a bit more!" I hadn't heard that one before.

>>25749941
>You wake up, your partner isn't there
>They walk in, even more chipper than usual
>"Hey Anon, you know what today is?"
>no
>"It's the one year anniversary since we became friends!"
>(How did they remember that?)
>"...Um, I actually wrote down the date because you were my first true friend, so I was real happy at the time."
>"I asked Swirlix if he would make a cake for the occasion... I was just going to ask if you wanted chocolate or vanilla frosting. Don't worry, I'm not picky!"

MD is probably the only game that can bring out the inner roleplaying autist in me. Don't really care though.

>>25750204
yeah same

im trying to get myself over being embarassed about shit like that cause it's fucking me over in my creative endeavors

it's always like "oh man i could do shit like blah and blah and... oh god i hate everything i make"

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gg no re

>>25750239
what the hell did you do to the dungeons, randomize them?

>>25750239
fucking score

why are multihits SO BROKEN

>>25750204
>>25750227
I have the opposite problem I think
I'd like to think stuff like that, but I hardly manage to, so I'm kind of jealous you thought something so cute!

>>25750258
He randomized the whole run.

I'm praying the boss fights are random and he gets a drifblim at like, graduation or something