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/pmdg/ - Pokemon Mystery Dungeon

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Halloween party edition. Old thread >>25667093

SPMD .cia http://pastebin.com/uR5bKJkw

Check the guides at >>>/vg/hbg if you don't know how to install the game. You won't lose any online feature or anything doing so, don't worry. You will be able to do everything that you'd normally be able to and much more.

Blue, Sky, and an emulator: https://mega.co.nz/#!6E8xWSzB!2TQy6qzEfI3qPxL3a2JJ9l7Wn6KXwHKxKxepMs3RIck

/vp/'s Mystery Dungeon guides: http://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5u

PSMD Wondermail codes: http://www.cpokemon.com/2015/11/24/todas-las-contrasenas-wonder-mail-

Super Mystery Dungeon FAQ: http://pastebin.com/aY45shVA

Super Mystery Dungeon Treasure List + Locations: http://pastebin.com/1xsZmqgJ
REMIDER: If you need a rescue, post your region. Due to a few things that make no sense, rescues are region locked. It's shitty, but be sure to mention if you're European or American. If you use the .cia in this post, your region should be listed as American
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>>25692686
Posting the greatest guildmaster of all.

Also, why does /vp/ prefer Blue RT to Red, friendly friends?~
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>>25692712
when i got rescue team i bought red instead of blue because my ds didn't work too well, so i ended up playing red
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>>25692686
Archen can't fly
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>>25692828
maybe he's like a chicken, he can do it for short distances, like 3-5 meters or so
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>>25692712
so the map can be on a separate screen
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>>25692828
Jirachi is using Psychic from outside to make him feel like he is.
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>>25692857
c-cute

archen x buizel is still my otp though
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>attempt Zero Isle South expecting true hell
>clear it first try using Drifblim

That was... weirdly easy compared to Sacred Ruins. But then again, I didn't try to clear ZIS with Hitmonchan.

Also I have newfound respect for ZISfag for being enough of an absolute madman to experiment with other mons.
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>>25692844
fucking
BLASTED
LASTED
ASTED
STED
TED
ED
D
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>>25693128
You're welcome.

Sacred Ruins is just poorly thought out, what with its random OP pokemon thrown in. Drifblim is EZ Mode for ZIS, minimize spam is powerful.

Hitmonchan gets so little for attacks that he sucks without TM's
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I've been thinking about getting SPMD. I really enjoyed Rescue Team and Explorers, but the demo of Gates was awful.
Can you guys tell me about this game?
>screen size: Gates' screen size is unplayable, what's it like here?
>difficulty: the first two PMDs are extremely easy, will I have to play tactically here or is it another cakewalk?
>overall gameplay: what makes it better/worse than Explorers?
>story: things you like and don't like, pls no spoilers
>other things of note: anything not already covered
>tips for new players: I've practically mastered the basic strategies of PMD in general, but is there anything I should know before I start?
I'm probably going to get the game because everyone here is so positive about it, but I'd like to know what I'm getting into.
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>>25693206
>screen size
Not as zoomed out as Explorers, but there's a shortcut to look around rooms
>difficulty
Harder than the other games
>overall
It doesn't quite hit Sky, due to a mix of region locked rescues and long stretches of dungeon without a break, and level 5 dungeons feeling unbalanced in difficulty
>story
Feels kind of rushed at points
>other things
Recruitment is nothing like the other games, no random missions, but what missions you get are enough to push 150 hours if you take your time
>tips for new players
I made a FAQ, take a look http://pastebin.com/aY45shVA May have possible VERY minor spoilers, since it mentions a difficulty spike that occurs early on
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>>25693206
Also I know in >>25693322 I don't exactly say anything good about the game. Emeras add a new element to dungeons, set them in a looplet to get different effects, like the ability to resist status effects, attack twice in one turn, and even guarantee a hit.

Base power has more effect in this game, and more powerful attacks tend to have special effects. In Explorers, Hyper Beam and Hydro Pump were ranged attacks with recharge and no special effects, respectively. In Super, Hyper Beam hits the enemy and everything around the target, and Hydro Pump pierces through enemies.
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>>25693206
>Scree size
Same as Gates I think, but I didn't have a problem with it personally
>Difficulty
Harder than the others
>Gameplay
Easily the best in the series. Emeras add some variation that you can react to, connection orb make the missions actually matter.
>Story
Horribly paced, even by PMD standards. Characters are solid, but poorly used. For your sake, I hope you liked the partner better than I did, since it's easily the most partner-centric story to date. It has some great moments though, and there's a 3-4 hour stretch that's probably the best stretch of PMD story.
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>>25693206
>screen size
From what I know, it seems to be zoomed out a little bit more than Gates'. I've only played the demo, so don't take my full word on it.
>difficulty
Super's probably the most difficult PMD yet. Because of the way the story's designed, you're forced into the next dungeon without any other options, and you're not given a lot of free days to do sidequests to level up. If you get into any trouble, grind on Pelipper Island or ask for a rescue here. Or just reload your save, since there's no more negative repercussions for resetting.
>overall gameplay
Probably the best yet in terms of pure dungeon crawling. Improved partner AI and the ability to change who you control mid-dungeon in non-story dungeons makes gameplay a whole lot better than Explorers. IQ skills have been sacrificed for Emeras, stones lying about in dungeons that temporarily grant past IQ skills for that expedition or buff stats. Randomly generated missions and the old recruitment system have been thrown out for the Connection Orb, a quest board with a finite amount of missions and recruits. On the plus side, it gives the postgame some sense of direction.
>story
Weird pacing, from being really slow in the first half and then rushed in the second, and a pretty head-scratching ending. The first half is alright though.
>tips for new players
Items are your friend. Always keep wands and orbs on you at all times in case you run into a really powerful enemy and need to fight or run. Some wands can also be used on bosses for spectacular results.
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>>25693393
>no more negative repercussions for resetting
What do you mean? There never was, except for quicksave dungeons.
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>>25693573
I thought that turning off the game while inside a dungeon would set you back as if you fainted.
A-Am I remembering things wrong?
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>>25693650
Only if you quicksave. You can reset all you want as long as you don't quicksave, which is useful if you blow all your items trying to recruit Kecleon and fail.
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>>25693722
I can't believe I didn't know that until now. That changes quite a bit, thanks for that.
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Sneak peak of Ears 6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5ugw2GUbnY
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Wait, so I have to download homebrew to get spmd? I'm a newfag when it comes to this.
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>>25694414
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>>25694343
uuuUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGG

lemme sleeEEEEEEEEEEEEP

-ear dog, probably
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>>25694414
You CAN hack your console to download it. But you can also buy it from a store or from the eShop digitally. Of course, you should mod your console either way, particularly right now since it's easy.
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>>25692712

Better exclusive pokemon, sound quality, slight graphic improvements and layout.
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anyway I hope pokemon center online comes out with cyndaquil eventually

unfortunately I'll never get that trainer size cubone i want
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>>25692712
Fast load times. When you're a Skitty with attitude, you don't have time to wait around.
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>>25696102
Is Red actually slower?
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So does Wigglytuff ever actually eat the perfect apples, or does he just bounce them on his head?
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>>25696628
That's how he eats them of course
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>>25696123
Either if it wasn't, having team info and map on top is the way to go
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>>25696960
is it bad that i enjoy having the map on the bottom screen in the 2d games?
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ARCHEN IS THE CUTEST MEMBER OF THE EXPEDITION SOCIETY!
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>>25697092
What do you keep on the top?

>>25697097
That's not the leader himself.
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>>25697109
The team
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>>25697097
He's the coolest. Pic would be cutest.
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>>25697130
Why not keep the team and map up top? You only miss out on the pictures.
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>>25697149
Exactly. I also like how the map and the bottom screen look together somehow. In Gates to Infinity it gives me headache though
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>>25697188
Hey, if it works for you, that's good. It's not like you're evolving your starters.
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>>25694343
m-muh heart
this just makes me want a pet fox even more
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Crossposting from the old thread to give everyone some food for thought.

Imagine your partner. Rescue Team, Explorers, Gates, whatever.

Imagine them having bad, post-traumatic dreams about your fading away, even well after it actually happened, leaving them with fitful nights and strained sleep. They'll writhe and whimper unconsciously, muttering, whispering, wishing for you not to go.

You lightly shake them awake and wrap them up in a big hug, telling them that you're right here, that you aren't going away again, and that everything's alright.

And/or you make out with them. Depends on how you feel


>>25697305
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6NuhlibHsM
This isn't a fennec, but I hope you enjoy anyway
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Would you want Swirlix to cook the best meals for you, even though she'll likely eat you out of house and home?
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Whatever happened to that anon that was making a mystery dungeon engine?

Did the anon who was making guides on the hardest dungeons ever clear the Sacred Ruins?
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>>25699015
I basically called it quits from SMD for awhile to get every pokemon in Blue.

Making a guide for Sacred Ruins isn't like making a guide for ZIS. You need to take resetting for moves into account, and some possibly good pokemon can have 8+ moves at level 5. Base power matters more, moves have been changed, types have been added, and the dungeon throws random extremely powerful pokemon at you without warning. The default attack isn't worth a damn anymore, so you can't tap an enemy with it to kill them, nothing has 2 abilities at once, and hunger depletes faster. On top of all this, you have Emeras to worry about, which can make or break everything.

Simply put, running Sacred Ruins is absolutely nothing like running ZIS. Both require entirely different approaches.
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What does the speed stat even do in SMD? Does it help you dodge attacks?
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>>25699561
It ups your accuracy, the source is in the manual you can see when you hit Home
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>>25699561
Accuracy
Boosting Speed boosts your Accuracy
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>>25699594
>>25699595
sounds like crit ratio from Gen 1
but I think that's good, wish I could use that in Red Rescue right now.... fucking hate this accuracy bullshit
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>>25699670
What moves are you using?
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>>25699713
honestly, I don't think it matters what move it is, because for some reason, it will randomly miss even with a 100% accuracy move.... like thunderbolt, flamethrower, those kind of moves
oh and most importantly, the default attack, that one the most
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>>25699820
"100%" accuracy in the main games is about 90-95% or so here. Don't ever use Hydro Pump either, base power means nothing
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>>25699893
accually that 100% not being 100% is in Gen 1, pretty sure about that
now in the main games if it's 100% it doesn't miss unless fucking double team, and believe me.... it's even worse in this game
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>>25699940
i'm meaning a move that has 100% in the main games doesn't here. EQ for example has terrible accuracy because it's a room attack.
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>>25699893
>base power means nothing
why?
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>>25699979
In RT, it just doesn't exist. Tackle hits for about as much as Take Down, but is more accurate, has more PP, and doesn't have recoil. This means that each of the 5 hits from Fury Swipes/Doubleslap has the power of a Hyper Beam. Moves that should be stronger just simply have less accuracy and PP. If there is a difference in power, it is extremely minor and entirely negligible.
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>>25699957
I know that, you are repeating what I already said
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Going to start a new playthrough on blue rescue team, think I'll roll with an ever starter

Who should my partner be?
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>>25701295
Eevee* starter

Hate posting on my phone
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>>25701295
if you haven't picked, Cyndaquil?
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>>25701295
warning, Eevee is a female starter only, you cannot get Eevee unless you say that you are a girl
honestly, I think it's fine being a girl Espeon right now. You tend to get some attention sometimes
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>>25703214
Slut
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>>25703525
Well, I do use Attract a lot
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>>25703557
No wonder we can see your butthole from orbit
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>>25703525
>>25703557
>>25703583
are we really doing this again
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>>25703676
It usually happens when the thread's dead
And that's usually often recently
So
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>>25703692
it just never ends
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>>25703983
You're here forever
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do any of you like to draw pmd stuff? like in general?
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>>25704023
I would if I could actually draw worth a damn. Pic related is only good because I copied the official art when I drew something on miiverse
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>>25704023
I can't draw worth shit
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>>25704023
If I could draw then yes
But I can't
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>>25704023
I am but a mere writefag
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>>25704023
All I can do is guidefag
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>>25704042
there now it's pmd
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>>25704023
if there's ever going to be anyone drawing....
Do adorable Eevee with Pikachu, or Espeon and Raichu
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>>25704115
Seems like it'd come off really easily
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>>25704169
i wanted to start a drawfags paintchat room but it seems like people aren't really keen on drawing maybe
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I don't know how long it's been.
Six months, Four?
all I know is that it still hurts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLDqReV45fg

God make it stop.
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>>25704256
YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE
IT WAS SAID THAT YOU WOULD PROTECT THE PARTNER, NOT LEAVE IT
BRING HAPPINESS TO YOUR PARTNER, NOT LEAVE IT IN DARKNESS
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Triggered
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>>25704275
I just wanted to play video games, anon.
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>>25704371
No! you're not allowed to just "play video games"
What do you think this is? The beginning of the video game era? Shit doesn't fly in these parts
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These fuckers still ellude me. I've been saving up gold bars and farming them.
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>>25704390
I'm sorry. just add it to the list of my mistakes.
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>>25704395
Wha- are you serious? You haven't fought them? Once?
Groundon and Kyogre have seperate dungeons you get at Masters
Areseus you meet at the top of 'Bullshit Tower'
Dialga and Palkia you bump into in Rayquaza's
And Cresellia you meet in the unknown regions. Alone. After you fight Darkrai
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>>25704256
six months since the japanese release
four months since the american release
one month since the european release

probably four
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>>25704503
Thank you. It's honestly coming hard to tell the days apart.
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>>25704439
I'm already masters and have met several of these mons in their dungeons. But yeah, I can't recruit em, cause I keep failing in battle.
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>>25704523
Well then don't fail in battle. Fight on
GIT GUD
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what do
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>>25704626
Give up.
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>>25704626
Nothing.
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>>25704631
>>25704645
but i need a name for the partner
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>>25704656
No, you don't
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>>25704668
o-ok
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>>25704656
Impossible.
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lets fuckin do this shit
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>>25704656
I'd like to suggest you one, but I'm not good at it.
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>>25704023
If I had the ability to draw, I would draw an entire PMD comic.
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EZ win.

Time to activate New Game+ mode
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>>25705040
forgot pic
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>>25705040
I hate New Game+ if all it does is increase the difficulty, or unlocks a higher difficulty
just let me choose that from the start
fucking, Zelda, Hero's mode
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>>25705066
New Game+ here means I intentionally die in a dungeon, use my DS to rescue me, and give my emulator save endgame items that I earned legit.
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Espanon here, how the hell does Agility work? do you get the double turn boost like, once? because for some reason I don't get to attack twice every turn
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>>25705101
You can attack twice more the first turn it's used, after that i think it's just for fleeing
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>>25705109
well, guess there's no point to all these speed seeds
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>>25705118
Think about it

>spawn in room with several strong enemies
>eat seed to get away
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>>25705179
>It's a monster house
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>>25705230
This is why you carry a Warp Seed if you can't get a Petrify Orb
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It begins.
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>>25705279
UNLIMITED POWER
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i think its about time i do these again
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>>25705536
Have fun with Star Cave anon. meanwhile i'm sitting here wiping in dungeons so i can port OP items from my 100% cart. Shame the Space Globe is useless.
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>>25705536
>>25705550
yo i went to marowak dojo and he gave me a reviver seed

fucking score
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ok so, try to find X ray specs and THEN grind for Vitamins and train, or just go find Vitamins now and hopefully get an X ray along the way?
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NO BIDOOF DON'T BUY IT HIDDEN POWER IS USELESS
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>>25705597
Get 4k poke, and keep running the Dojo. Kecs will refresh their stock after every run, you'll get exp, and they can have the specs
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>trying to recruit the Reggies in Explorers
Literally who thought that Aegis Cave was a good idea?
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>>25705609
you can grind for oran berries, money, and escape orbs like this too

and if you have infinite escape orbs, that means infinite reviver seeds at spinda cafe's trade booth
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>>25705609
to bad there's no type of EV training here
could totally do some dunking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdHsctdw25Q
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>>25705629
Wait i was talking about Rescue Team. Either way, spamming Dojo in Explorers "skips" a day too. You can hatch eggs like this too
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>>25705646
oh i see, yeah, i forgot it was in RT too
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>>25705609
Alright, best buddy, time to go train in the Super atomic crime chamber
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>>25705782
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Lb3MTlIrC4
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>>25705782
Once you get Wide Slash, you can link it with any move and use it on those 3 and get like 4.7k exp each time. Make sure you have a mon with Recycle though, so you can reuse it, you dont want to go back into Far-Off sea all the time
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>>25705814
.....explain in detail, I only know main series
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>>25705834
Wide Slash is an attack that everything that can learn a TM can learn. It's typeless, and hits the 3 spaces in front of you. So if Espeon took one step forward and used it, they would hit all 3 enemies. It's a real nice moveslot filler and useful for crowd control. You can get it on floor 50 or so of Far-Off Sea, but you need a Key
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>Regice refused to join
>now a return trip's guaranteed
Oh, I already hate this. Can I affect its recruitment rate with the Friend Bow or Icy Flute, or is it all up to pure chance?
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>>25705782
and found em
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>>25705889
>joy seed
Stock up on these fuckers, i grinded Team Hydro for hours getting these to level up mons for recruitment
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Oh yeah that's some good shit right there.
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kek my items and money went back in time to help bidoof

bidoof's been holding out on me, he should take everything out and hand it to me so i have dupes
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why are there so many shops in star cave
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>>25692686
DLC where the society goes trick-or-treating that leads to an adventure when?
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>>25706084
Because it's the place you money grind. DO NOT RECRUIT KECLEON THERE, you can't recruit in that dungeon
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THESE NIGGAS FUCKING DEAD
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>>25704023
I'm actually taking my time to practice drawing.
I like my progress so far but, still not quite that confident.
And I'm a scrub at digital art

But I did pic related
Tried to go for this kind of style: https://ansionnachfionn.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/map-of-europe.jpg
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Oh boy, it's the second best part of the game behind the fabled Aegis Cave
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>>25706099
DLC AT ALL WHEN?
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But I don't wanna get smarter, getting smarter is for Gohan, I'd rather just train and get stronger
although training does make me hungry
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>>25706340
lookspretty good, keep up the effort
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>>25706564
eat your greens to get bit and strong and smart, anon
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>>25706619
well..... ok
but Ima do it later
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So I started playing Super Mystery Dungeon as my first MD game and holy shit does it get hard quickly.

>Heliolisk used Razor Wind
>Heliolisk used Razor Wind
>Heliolisk used Razor Wind

and then I got fucking gangraped by the three Poliwraths which I couldn't do shit to because of bulk-up spam (Team is Squirtle and Torchic)

I died and got sent all the way out of the dungeon because I didn't save although I thought it auto-saved when you reached the boss. I got so pissed off I turned off the game but I'll probably try again later.

Also this happened too which I did kinda laugh at after I got over it

>Get to Combee/Beedrill fight
>Kill all but one Combee
>Combee used Bug Bite
>Combee ate the Blast Seed
>Squirtle is fucking dead
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>>25706809
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>>25706809
..... if blast seed was a main game item
>if holder takes damage, it eats the seeds spitting fire onto the foe
>always does 45 damage
>can be eaten by pluck and bug bite
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>>25706849
Pretty sure there's a berry that does that...

...except the berry doesn't do 100 points of goddamn damage and send you back to the title screen.
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>Regirock didn't join
>but Registeel and Reggie-Giygas did
Better than nothing, I guess. Now I don't have to do the second half of the dungeon anymore.

Still didn't get an answer on whether or not IQ skills and held items could influence the recruitment rates of scripted legendary fights like the seven guardians, etc.
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>>25706965
I'd say it does, but you're still praying for that chance to come through
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>>25707024
Whatever makes that chance bigger is fine by me.
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>>25706358
i like how they tried to redeem them at the end but i still haven't forgiven those cunts

anyone know where i can get several insomniscopes easily in sky
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>skip most of Aegis Cave on the second visit thanks to the rocks I saved up
>nab Regice and Regirock at the same time
>forgot to bring an Escape Orb

Good thing I found one lying around, or I would've actually resorted to suicide.
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>>25706965
From my own (admittedly brief) amount of testing, they do indeed. It's not much, but it's still there.
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reminder to always cherish and respect doof senpai
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>>25707317
I remember Bidoof speaking more like Goofy. Was that all just an illusion?
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>>25707420
off and on, he goes like "yup yup" and stuff, but it's not constant
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if zis guy is here

how is smeargle in zero island?
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>>25707515
still awake, barely.

Haven't tried it, but I'd imagine that it'd be really bad. Even if you Sketch something amazing, you'd have, at best, 3 moveslots, assuming you hit level 21. You'd have 1 move to start with, so you better sketch something amazing.
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>>25707538
i always thought smeargle would be an overpowered starter cause you'd have all this time to get the PERFECT moveset, but maybe I'm wrong
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In SMD, I'd like to keep using my two starter mons in the post-game, but I feel like Mudkip / Tepig is lacklustre.

The best boosting moves they have access to are Curse for Mudkip and Work Up for Tepig. Curse is... usable? I suppose. Work Up is good, but I'm not even sure how to get either of those moves in SMD. Will Hawlucha's tutor teach both, or do I have to hope for a TM to come along?

Tepig has Rollout and Arm Thrust, which I'm assuming are better than pretty much any other single target move in terms of raw power because they multi hit, so that's all right. But Mudkip just feels aggressively underwhelming right now, especially since Tepig prevents me from running Earthquake.

In short, how do I get Curse on Mudkip and Work Up on Tepig, and what should I be running on Mudkip instead of Earthquake / is Dig worth a damn / is there a way to allow Tepig to avoid Earthquake's splash?
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>>25707426
They toned down the verbal tics in the Sky episodes
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>>25707627
Fuck Earthquake, use Earth Power and start investing in Sp Attack. Earth Power is basically special Earthquake only it doesn't hit your team.
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>>25707635
That means I can't use Waterfall, and Mudkip has no Sp. Atk boosting option.
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>>25707648
I feel like brute force is sufficient in PMD, or do you know something I don't know?
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>>25707660
Boosting your stats means you can OHKO every pokemon you come across. Boosting moves are OP as shit in PMD.

Special Mudkip means I can run Surf / Earth Power which is some insane room clear, but I'm not sure whether or not Surf hits allies in PMD. Ehh, it just feels so wrong to me to be running Special Mudkip. I feel filthy. It's also bloody expensive.
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>>25707714
surf does hit teammates, unfortunately
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I just got smd and I like it so far. Is there any point in going back to the older games after I finish this?
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>>25707735
i think so, yeah, especially for rt and explorers

every game is a different experience, and they're all enjoyable
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>>25704743
I don't know if you're interested, but I guess you could try the randomizer I mentioned earlier if you want
https://github.com/Aissurteivos/mdrngzer/releases/tag/v0.9.1
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>>25708278
It's a little late for that. Already got through Apple Woods and ported a Miracle Chest/2 IQ Boosters/Blizzard TM. Don't look at me like that, i've earned all of those items 100% legit in my cart save
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>>25708304
Couldn't you just swap the rom whenever you want? I'd expect the save to be the same. Oh well.
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>>25707719
u wot
Surf only hits a single enemy in PMD.
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>>25708355
Only in Rescue Team and Explorers
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you gotta be shitting me right now

i get to the max rank and NOW nuzleaf decides to join

these join unlocks are absolutely ridiculous
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>>25708554
o-oh
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>Restart as Chespin
>Mission to go into the ancient barrow
>Grab X and Y power gems, type bulldozer, super critical, barrage
>Fire a pin missile at Giratina
>40-40-27-41-25-26
>Dead next turn
Alright bloody hell, Chespin doesn't fuck about

Any other moves I should definitely learn? Passed up leech seed because it sounds only useful for bosses
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>>25709579
Rollout is also multi-hitting, so get that.

Anyone know a good place to find Awakening emeras?
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>>25709874
usually just around, i suppose

you can't bring them out and stockpile them so you just kinda gotta hope they shot up on their own

i dunno if there's a way to influence the spawns in any way

maybe if you can find a clairvoyance you'll find other emeras easier
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>>25709579
I had Chespin as my partner

Needless to say, he protected my smile
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>>25710031
>Needless to say
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I made a list of Abilities' effects in PSMD for anyone who wants it.
http://pastebin.com/z7V9ihrD

>Multitype gives your entire team STAB on everything
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>>25710031
>replaying Sky on emulator
>Mudkip/Skitty duo

I feel like I'm the one being carried
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is hyper beam in Red? if so, how powerful?
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>>25711829
it's in red.

It's about as powerful as Tackle because base power is more or less meaningless in RT/Explorers
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>>25711891
huh...... I've been using tackle the entire game, because tail whip-tackle is OP..... as long as fucking TRAPS doesn't ruin the set up
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>>25711925
If you get Screech, link it. Screech is, simply put, broken. One use nukes the enemy's defense, more than 2 tail whips or even 4. When used on you, especially from a Kecleon, you can go from taking 1 damage a hit to 60+

At -10 defense, you have 3% your normal Defense.
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What're good movesets in Sky? Pure power obviously doesn't cut it, because that'll just drain PP half-way through.
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>>25711974
and screech has how much PP?
on the subject.... there are no PP Ups are there?
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>>25711974
Also if you have access to Screech+Fury Swipes/Fury Attack, use it. This is how I knock out Jirachi in 1 turn in Wish Cave
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>>25711999
>get pokemon with Quick Striker
>laugh as you use only your default attack on everything

Or just get something with Multitalent, which gives +5PP to everything.

>>25712000
I forget offhand, but Screech is more to be used as a boss killer. There are no PP Ups in RT.
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jesus christ, I forgot how insufferable everyone in EoS was

wigglytuff is the only bearable character
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>>25710269
>Natural Recovery
Why did they change its name?

And thanks, anon. Always good to have more PMD info lying around.
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>>25710269
>http://pastebin.com/z7V9ihrD
Nice anon, gonna add this to the pastebin
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found this while IQ grinding
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>>25712045
don't talk about your partner like that
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>>25712117
The partner played you for a fool. He took advantage of your vulnerable situation to prop up his career.
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>>25712117
I want to hug the partner
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>>25712114
so, if I ever find it, should I switch Psybeam, with Psychic?
Psybeam is a long range move, so what is Psychic?
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>>25712137
but they themselves were in a vulnerable situation first, and you wouldn't have chosen to not help them, would you

>>25712143
i want to marry the partner
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>>25712390
Not long range.
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>>25712414
I want to live a long life with the partner
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>>25712390
Psychic's just a lower PP Confusion in RT/Explorers, only it might lower sp def. Psybeam has range so it's worth having though.
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>>25712435
Actually, partner-gushing aside and boy do I sure want to gush in the partner, what do you think would happen to the Dimensional Scream later on down the line? Would you pass it on to a babby like moves, or what
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>>25712510
Goddammit, I knew coming back to /vp/ would send me to hell.

I mean, how did the player acquire it in the first place? If it's genetic, then it could potentially be passed down, but it's still a weird ability.
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>you will never settle down comfortably with your partner after saving the world
>you will never explore the world with your partner
>you will never be deep frozen by a hostile pokemon and saved by your partner
>you will never cuddle lewdly with your partner after being saved from the ice
>you will never establish a loving family of pokemon in the wilderness

So is Spinda from EoS the same as the Spinda from RRT/BRT?
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I'm FREE! no more losing tail tackle combo
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>>25713048
I meant to do that, really
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>>25713058
Right up until you take a step, pass the PP Zero Trap you just stepped on, and a split second later, decide to go back the other way because the item in the room was just an Oran, tripping it.
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>>25713103
but I can still see it
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>>25713121
I'm saying you step on the hidden trap, take one step, and go to backtrack, because the trap hadn't registered in your head yet. Regardless that's super rare and Trap Seer is one of the best skills, next to Sure Hit Attacker and Super Mobile
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>>25713058
gettin the bitches
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Never knew this could actually happen.
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>>25712699
>mfw writing Ears
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>>25713188
So..... how do I find more Eevees?
It's for.... recruitment and research
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>>25713388
Joyous Tower, floors 12-17.

Have fun.
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>>25713388
Like the other anon said
>Slut
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so is super mystery dungeon worth the 35 simoleons?

looking for something to play between now and SM but may grab something else like monster hunter

i considered downloading a copy today, but ended up going to the movies and eating a tonne of popcorn and hotdogs instead, may go pick up a second hand copy instead of downloading / buying a new one
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>>25713454
I ain't no slut, I'm the pimp
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>>25713293
>you will never hold your partner close on a lovely spring night
>you will never hear their slow breathing as they drift to sleep
>you will never be lured to sleep by that same slow sleepy breathing
>you will never wake up in the morning only to find that you two had fallen asleep inside a monster house
>you will never know the satisfaction of pulling out a petrify orb and going ham on the hostile pokemon with your partner
>you will never happily embrace your partner after triumphing over your foes
>you will never mate in celebration with your partner after exiting the dungeon
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>>25713539
What are you talking about? Of course I will.

That's what delusional writefagging is for, anon.
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>>25713556
Please save me.
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Question.
If you were a human, and then turned into a Pokemon, and everyone knew it, Would it be considered wrong to lewd it up?

I assume it would be.
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>>25712556
As far as we know, the only reason you have it is because you're a human, or were human, in the later case. So wherever you came from, it was inherent. Or maybe you were given it by Arceus or something.

I always figured you could pass it on to a child like a move, but of course, if the bab was a girl, they wouldn't be able to pass it on themselves.

>>25712699
>you will never trudge down the stairs into Sharpedo Bluff after a really long day
>you will never get a nice campfire going, pulling some berries and veggies out from the barrels and roasting them
>you will never curl up with them on your bed of dry grass after a pleasant meal, cuddling close and listening to the waves rolling into the base of the cliffs
>you will never fug hard and then fall asleep immediately afterward, completely satisfied
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>>25713602
Would it matter if that they knew that you saved the world and that your partner's completely in love with you?

It's not like you're gonna turn back into a human anytime soon, r-right?
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>>25713586
I can't wake you up inside, that's your job. You just have to use your imagination and also buy that fifty dollar huge special doggo plush.

I have to get back to writing heartfelt confessions of anxiety and love for the last part of Ears, so you go do that.
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>>25713637
When you delete your save the PC turns back into a human and leaves forever
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>>25713606
Can't imagine the ability would be pleasant, though; imagine the baby constantly getting dizzy spells or something because of the Dimensional Scream.
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>>25713188
alright, wish me luck here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VGuWDQBXrU
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>>25713808
Funfact, if you were playing red and had no battery/couldn't properly save, you'd get booted to the main menu with no save if you did this/quicksaved
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>>25713637
What if: MC goes back to the human world, but brings the partner along
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>>25713606
>you will never be interrupted by manaphy in the middle of lewd cuddling
>you will never have to explain why mom and dad were wrestling in the middle of the night
>you will never help him find his soulmate that isn't a ditto
>you will never eventually see him, years later, holding the hand of his phione child
>you will never somehow successfully teach it heart swap and watch it evolve into another manaphy
>you will never realize that to evolve, phione requires no human contact whatsoever
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>>25713985
That would be some nifty shit right there, and also probably almost impossible with how the laws of the universe apparently work.
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>>25713985
Hopefully your partner doesn't despise you for putting them inside a Pokeball.
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>>25714009
A long time ago, back when BW were on the horizon, I liked entertaining the idea that the whole game was just one big adventure in the Dream World, and you brought the partner back that way.

It's silly, but I used it to add some character to a solorun, and it made it more fun in a weird sort of way.
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>>25713985
literally the same
>plenty a lewds
>except no adventures
>only calm
>well as calm as fugging can be
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question.... how does perish song work in Red?
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>>25714035
Anon this is straight up bestiality you're talking about here.
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>>25714144
>implying that you wouldn't both be Pokemon and still fug
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>>25714138
Straight up deadly. You can't switch out your Pokemon, which means if the move connects (which thankfully isn't 100% accurate), your team's as good as dead unless you can get to the stairs within 4 or so turns.

Hope you packed some Reviver Seeds.
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>>25713661
>deleting the save instead of making a backup
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>>25714138
Very low accuracy, but hits the entire floor. If it hits you, you're dead in 3 steps. Heal Seeds can stop this.
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>>25714155
>you will never experience the agony of watching your beloved partner be captured by a human
>you will never chase after the human in a futile attempt to stay with your partner
>you will never be blasted by the trainer's most powerful pokemon and left fainted on the side of the road

alternatively,
>you will never experience the pain of having to fight your partner

even more alternatively,
>you will never be captured too, only to see your partner be forced into the Daycare to be used for breeding
>you will never experience the eternal horrors of being permanently boxed
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>>25714023
Or he becomes a human.
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>>25714160
luckily, they never even used it once
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>>25714212
That would be interesting.

A game where the MC is a pokemon that turned into a human.
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>>25714226
Heres hoping you recruit it in less tries than me. 15 fucking visits with a level 100 Friend Bow Wooper
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>>25714212
>you will never have to explain all the human terminology and why things are like they are
>you will never have to teach them how to speak a human language
>you will never show them how to lewdly cuddle as a human
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What if the next game everyone in the entire guild used to be human, but they never told anybody in the guild, but you come along and eventually tell them and they all finally spill it?
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>>25714327
How would that be relevant to the plot? If it was pulled off well, I'd be game, but this just sounds odd.
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>>25709579
>Any other moves I should definitely learn?
Power-up Punch, Bulk Up or Hone Claws.
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>>25714383
Maybe everyone would be odd, but maybe one or two members
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>>25713723
They'd probably view it as both a huge pain in the ass and a really useful ability. The idea always reminds me of Golden Sun, with mind-reading being super cool to a character and then he gets older in the sequel and he's really sick of it.

Makes you wonder what kind of anxieties or pressures it'd put on the kid who got it, especially if they were really adventurous and felt responsible for taking care of whatever visions they saw.
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What's the time difference between Super Mystery Dungeon and the other PMD games, if there's a known time difference?
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>>25714620
>>25713723
>>25713606
>>25712556
I'm *pretty* sure the Dimensional Scream was caused by the player being unstuck in time and space after what Darkrai did to them whilst crossing time.

It's unique to people (perhaps pokemon as well) that have been displaced in time.
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>>25714675
I'd have to assume after all the other games, but only because of a few references
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>>25714691
I remember the game mentioning the MC also having it as an human in the future
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>>25714736
Maybe it's only unique to humans, and then they kept it as a Pokemon.
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>>25714691
See >>25714736
That would be a pretty cool explanation, though.
>>
Savage.
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>>25714987
... Meanie.
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I've been practicing for this run for a long time, I'm gonna use Bide. not
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>>25715087
>Using Mudkip even semi-ironically
For what purpose?
>>
>tfw Skitty's moveset is pretty much perfect instantly

>>25715138
I got sick of rerolling for Piplup, i kept getting Shinx and Phanpy, and i've already done a Phanpy run. Shinx is already my partner on cart
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>>25714206
see this is why normal poke-world is shit and mystery dungeon world is better in every way

i honestly don't know why you would want to GO BACK to the real world, considering making a living in pmd world is juat about being sufficiently strong enough to go and steal money and apples from the nearest weak mystery dungeon
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>>25714620
>and then he gets older in the sequel and he's really sick of it.
that strikes me as pretty funny

like after a while of hearing the same damn thoughts about "oh how do i tell x that x" or other inane shit people think about all the time he's just like GOD DAMMIT, JUST GO AND DO THE THING, IT'S REALLY EASY, AND IF YOU FUCK IT UP, IT DOESN'T MATTER!! DO SOMETHING ELSE! i'M SICK OF HEARING THESE SAME THOUGHTS OVER AND OVER AGAIN
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>>25715256
>you will never have to pry your partner away from /vp/
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>hitting for single digit damage
>meanwhile Skitty's hitting for more than double what I am
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>>25714226
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPOIX7g2kQE
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>>25715445
Mt. Faraway's fun, the shops have vitamins. I hope you brought a key for the Friend Bow on 30F. If not, well you'll have to come back anyways to recruit Ho-oh, since you cant get it the first time
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>>25715444
>what is drought
>what is probably a pretty terrible special attack
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>>25715460
All I could really do was spam Mud Slap. Long fight but it wasn't dangerous in the slightest
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>>25715471
oh god, mud slap isn't even STAB
I feel so sorry for you right now
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>>25715445
Recruit Castform NOW!
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>>25715500
Why I didn't just hack to change my starter to something else is beyond me. But i'm a little too deep in to do that now
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>tfw there will never be a PMD MMO
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>>25715508
why?
>>
Just started playing Sky and there was like a full hour of dialogue and tutorials before I actually got to play the game. Is it this bullshit all the way through?
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>>25715525
MMOs are over and you know it
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>>25715542
You're about at the end of the tutorial shit now. After the Apple Woods bullshit the game starts to pick up
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>>25715525
That's fine. MMO's are shit anyway.
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>>25715542
Nah, the first hour's about it, maybe a tiny bit more. After Mt. Bristle, you're given free reign to grab missions from both bulletin boards, and things open up a lot more.
>>
As my damage output grows smaller, Skitty's stats just get higher
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>>25715525
>>25715553
This.

Instead pick up a few things from Rescuers and let you make your own dungeons, choosing a tileset, a background music, a few special floors with customizable layouts, which pokemons spawn boss fight at the end, both from your recruited pokemons and teams.
Then share those through QR codes like secret bases.
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>>25715525
Whatever happened to PMDU, or PMU or whatever it was called?

I mean, it sucked even way back when I last tried it a billion years ago, but I completely forgot about it until you mentioned a PMD MMO.
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>>25715742
you mean the art group thing? or was it something else?
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>>25715766
https://www.pmuniverse.net/

No, this. I'm surprised that it looks like it's still going, since it's basically got some of the features of what the other anon was describing. Building your own little base and everything.

Problem is I remember the controls being iffy and the map/tileset system being shit.
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Getting the team back together
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look at all that chicken
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First Bide and now this? Fuck, Mudkip gets a beastly moveset
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>>25716112
>Ho-oh used Safegaurd
>Immune to Attract
......yes, I've been waiting for a fight such as this!
>still over very quickly
fuck
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>this whole playthrough
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>>25716274
Bite the pillow
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>>25716112
Ok, so... I just went back to recruit the chicken..... 99% recruit rate..... it didn't work
I have the friend bow now too
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>>25716559
Do you have the right friend area?
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>>25716591
but legends automatically give you theirs, no matter which one
...... that's not correct is it?
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>>25716611
Only the ones that you can't buy, like Stratos Lookout and Enclosed Island. You need to buy Final Island to get Mew
>>
so, how do I trigger the Mewtwo dungeon? any requirements?
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>>25716780
Recruit Lugia
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>>25716780
Recruit Ho-oh, not Lugia.
>>
recruited 666 pokemon

Still can't find ariados
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>>25716834
Also, recruiting Lugia triggers the Deoxys dungeon instead of the Mewtwo one.
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>>25716886
My bad, it's been awhile. My memory's been clogged by the grind i endured to recruit everything
>>
even when I'm not playing PMD I somehow can't escape this fucking general
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>>25717048
Can't blame us for being comfy as hell.
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>>25716112
so, if I saved his sister, perhaps I can get something in return
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>>25717130
Slut
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>>25717130
Oh, but you do~

You get them recruited to your team.
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>>25717197
I am not going to have sexual relations with this Pokemon
I'll take his sister instead
although threesome is also good
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>>25717251
>Rayquaza
>Charizard
>Latias
You just like the dragon dick don't you Anon?
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>>25717287
>Latias
>dragon dick
oh my
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>>25717287
Had it been gen 6 it would have been Sylveon, clearly
It was born in the wrong generation
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>>25717307
>Latios
Honest mistake, every will get them mixed up at some point
although Anon is still into dragons either way, dick or puss, Espanon is a slut for it
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>>25717332
N-no, it's not like that
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>>25717420
Commence girls only time
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>>25717088
Can't argue with that.
Also this game is a joke holy shit, I'm like one hour into Kanto and I already have three badges.
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>>25717514
Have you tried that one in-beta hack that tweaks it to have some Gen VI mons and other stuff
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>>25717466
I would, but kinda busy here
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>>25717532
_No.
Sounds interesting though. What's it called?
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>>25717558
>going into buried relic without super mobile

you're missing out on so many items
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>>25717576
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=323705

Naturia, which thankfully is 'stick-in-the-head' enough for me to remember, hah. I've been having the urge to solorun HG with a Partner-mon, but then I found this and figured going for a Super Partner solorun might be more fun. Call me silly, but eh.
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>>25717588
damn it anon, not everything needs to be done completely optimally
let espanon claim more victims
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>>25717610
I'm just used to optimizing is all
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I'm so sorry Guildmaster

>>25717598
Cool, thanks. I'll try it out sometime after I finish Gold.
And that doesn't sound too silly, I played through HG with a team based around my Totodile partner with the same nickname. Except I made him a she because why not.
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>>25717711
Ampharos is the one true guildmaster. Wigglytuff only wishes he was as stylish
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Game where MC and partner both came from the human world, one gets summoned from evil entity, one gets summoned from good entity. You come from the good side and your partner comes from the evil side. Once the partner finds out, he leaves you and goes to the dark side (i'm sorry).

Battle leading up to the boss you have to fight your partner, he can't bring himself to kill you, big bad tries to defeat both of you, partner sacrifices himself for you, you have to battle the final boss yourself.

Partner is dead, boss is defeated, you wish he was alive and you would take his place, some freaky deaky magic shit goes down and your partner starts appearing again, while you're fading away, you can't hug each other or anything just watch. Good entity bestows some more magic on you as it brings you back to your partner later on. Cue sappy ending.

Also, has /pmdg/ though of creating a fanmade PMD game?
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>>25717761
Ohh, buddy, don't get me started on how much I want to make a fangame. A new engine would have to be made entirely from scratch, because the one for the actual games themselves is so oddly coded. It'd be a lot of work, too much for the small /pmdg/ community.
If we did make one, I could totally write up a plot. I already have several PMD themed ideas and stories floating around. Not that I publish any of them, but for a project like this? Sure.
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>>25717558
I escape orbed out before seeing Mew, because I didn't have the friend area, and went back JUST IN CASE I actually needed it
I doubt I did, but hey
also, nice time, will be sleeping now
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>>25717820
Everyone's a writer, nobody's a coder
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>>25717761
I've worked on a little something back last year-time or so. There's a decent script for RPG Maker that allows for random dungeons, complete with maps overlaid onscreen and so on. No hunger, and battles are still RPG-turn-based stuff rather than actually attacking on the map, but it was kinda fun.

Of course, that's RPG Maker and RPG Maker is limited as hell. It'd probably be much, much easier to work with a more flexible engine.
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>>25717848
It would seem that way.
Don't insult the value of my craft, though. Can't have a good game with shit story. Everybody's a writer, but not everybody's a GOOD writer!
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>>25717848
>>25717865
i code shit

not that it's any good
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>>25717874
Better than not coding shit
What shit can you code?
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>>25717848
I am, of the self taught hobby sort, so I'm not too skilled. I'm also lazy and unmotivated.
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>>25717865
I wrote Ears and DTFJ, I'm not insulting anything
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>>25717848
I'll drink to that. Even with this >>25717854 mess, writing the dialogue was the most fun I had.
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>>25717761
i keep thinking about what wigglytuff said, like
>but i think truly bad pokemon don't exist anywhere

I'd love to see a legendary be the big bad, but he's afraid of the connection between the human and pokemon world, because he KNOWS humans are bad for this world without humans, so he goes all megalomaniacal trying to prevent humans from coming through or something

but i can't think of a storyline where that sort of action would be catastrophic enough to warrant a human or two being pulled through to stop him
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>>25717892
Fair enough.
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>>25717920
It'd make for a decent replacement for Dark Matter, maybe? Legendary starts attacking other legendaries to stop them from pulling humans in, ends up making them pull a human in to save the day, and so on.

I'm not too keen on the idea of separate worlds in general (part of why I prefer Explorers over the others), but it'd be a decent way to actually make pulling someone from another dimension relevant.
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>>25717999
m,aybe a theory as to why MC was allowed to be a human in the future was something to do with the planet's paralysis?

like maybe mc was pulled in to save the world just like normal, and would have been turned into a pokemon anyway if the world wasn't basically dead already?

>>25717920
>>25717999
I'm thinking now about like, the climax of a game like that

>big bad is fucking up the balance of the world to rip open the gateway to the border between worlds
>big bad wants to destroy the border and break the link
>doesn't know that would actually destroy the world or some shit (implied that the player enables the world to exist or some shit, but not actually say it)
>you get pulled in to save the world
>big bad succeeds because he's too stronk to stop

>climax of the game
>at the border between worlds
>"I'm going to destroy it, I cannot allow such dangerous creatures into MY world"
>i dunno maybe it's arceus or something, and he's gone primal
>phase 1 battle
>when you win big bad makes a last ditch attack to destroy gate, partner blocks
>fucking dead m8
>in despair and anger phase 2 battle
>you win, obviously
>xerneas and yveltal say they can bring the partner back, but you have to selflessly give yourself up to the effort
>of course you do
>partner learns of this, tries to bring you back somehow

i dunno
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>look up mudkips moveset

JUST
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>>25718071
oh and also to add to the dramatic effect orgasm, the music at the gateway is the quiz music/"welcome to the world of pokemon"
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>>25718078
Better start stockin' up on them TMs.
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>>25718104
I used my only Blizzard TM on Skitty. I don't have another one, even on cart. I could wipe and port over a Dig TM maybe.
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>>25718118
is this super or can you use recycle
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>>25718129
I don't have a mon that can use Recycle, and if i did i already ditched the used TM.
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>>25718071
To be fair, I've always kind of assumed the same thing in my worldbuilding but kept it ambiguous in my head

though in my case i like to think humans get pulled from the time before the apocalypse rather than a different dimension entirely
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>>25718152
i prefer to believe that the pmd world is separate and just magic and humans can't maintain a form there as an actual human becauyse of the laws of nature or whatever, pokemon only

but humans kind of exist as legends and such because of seer type pokemno or something

i dunno i prefer not to think about it too much cause i don't WANT to know the link between the main series and pmd, I don't feel like there's a GOOD way to pull that off
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>>25718178
Oh no, I feel you there. I like the idea of tying it into the main series, but more in the ambiguous sense, at least for "what happened".

I've always been super-fond of the idea of PMD being a post-apoc human world (it's kind of a thing for me; Wind Waker is another big favorite for the same reason), but I think trying to really tie things together would result in something really edgy and dumb. TES is kind of an influence on me, so I like to think that humans are like the dwarves, in that something happened that prompted them to just poof out of existence. Anything more detailed than that risks toeing the line.
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new thread

>>25718344
>>25718344
>>25718344
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>>25713461
anybody?
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>>25718925
oh, sorry, i think so yeah, i like 3ds games cause they're relative,ly cheap
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