Touhou Puppet Dance Performance TPDP

>>25688854
>Could Lily puppets save spring from Yuyuko ones?
They are far cuter, so of course.

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>>25688897
Excuse me, but Yuyuko is the happiest, prettiest and most adorable puppet so I'll have to disagree.

Also her typings are better.

>tfw no english patch

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>>25689214
Yuyuko is an ugly hag!

>>25690186
Wanna say something mean but I can't hate Aya.

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Based fairies.

Reminder that we should all bully Renko

>>25693357
we should bully you instead

>>25693418
I agree. bullies deserve to be bullied.

>>25693418
Fuck you

Renko is weak and pitiful

She made permaweather bad, for crying out loud. She is the ur-bully target.

>>25693430
how did she make permaweather bad?

>>25693439
>>25693439
By being so weak that no one wants to use her even with permaweather.

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>>25693430
Renko is a lover, not a fighter.

It's okay for someone to not be good at fighting.

>>25688854
Talked about this last thread, but is there any way to run sudsedder?
As it stands there's DBenben as the closest thing to Trevenant, so she'd likely be a good start. Only two weakness and a fuckton of resists in both games. However I'm worried about some of her stats not making the cut and I don't like Benben.
So there'd be some problems running this.

>>25693460
1. how do you know no one wants to use her?
2. if people aren't using her it doesn't mean perma weather is bad.

>>25693509
Well, the thing is she's the only source of permaweather

If she sucks, so does permaweather

>>25693488
But she has only 1 friend anyways.
*
Are you seriously trying to defend her incapability of battling because you think she's cute?

>>25693796
permaweather is not about a single unit but a whole party. all she has to do is set it up.

>>25694068
When you have a BST of 375 and have to use a move to set the weather up, that's much easier said than done.

>>25694183
remind me what black ribbon does?

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Why are we arguing about this with someone who bragged about being able to lift 20 pounds?

Do you just want to bully her because you're weaker than she is?

Because you can't, she's probably stronger than you. And she won't want to bully you back because she doesn't need to prove her superiority.

>>25694183
>>25694256
No answer? than i probably remember the name wrong
tpdp has a focus band. use it.

>>25694332
Focus band isn't guaranteed and there's no Focus Sash

>>25694321
Stop bullying me

How all this bullyXtouhou thing started?

>>25696049
touhou bosses are hard so ppl bully them.

>>25696049
Because Renko is a weakling.

If you LIKE her being a weakling, you are weak

>>25696158
if you like to BULLY someone cause they are weak, you lack confidence. and are weak.

>>25696221
She needs to be bullied until she stops being weak

Until she bullies back

>>25696514
fighting back != bullying back
Are you bullying any bug /nfe pokemon out there?

>>25696555
No, because most of them are STILL stronger than she is.

Name one reason she shouldn't be bullied.

>>25696756
she is cute

>>25696756
name one reason she should
and no, being weak isn't a reason.

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>>25692266
>Matsukura
Ew.

Posting based Hirasaka instead. Nice double dubs, by the way.

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Which 2hu has best armpits?

>>25696819
Because I wanted permanent weather to be overpowered like it was in Gen 5 Pokemon

>>25696796
But everything in TPDP is cute

>>25696846
right, and because every puppet is cute, none of them deserve to be bullied

except sumireko

>>25696846
having permaweather and not being OP means renko is a good girl.

>>25696843
Reimoo.

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>>25696877
I heard that, jackass.

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>>25696905
>he doesn't know

>>25696927
sumireko is a total loser, just try to prove me wrong

>>25696989
>can go to Gensokyo almost at will
>can fly
>ESP abilities

>>25697056
she has esp abilities and she uses it to throw fucking playing cards at people
that's why she's a loser

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>>25698580
>and she uses it to throw fucking playing cards at people
Among other things.

And Zener cards aren't playing cards, you duck.

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>>25696877
Sumireko is also really cute.

>>25696884
Are you saying that she's doing the right thing by being weak?

Will you ever accept my desire to bully her?

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>>25696989
losers don't have capes this cool

>>25700153
Worst Touhou cape faggot.

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Why is the thread trying to bully Renko and her relative?

>>25700522
One of them would actually have made the world better by never being born and almost fucked Gensokyo because she was a poor loser.

The other is just Renko and a case of some faggot beating a dead horse to the ground and got boring long ago.

>>25700606
On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being "mild dislike" and 10 being "worse than Hitler", where does she fall on that scale?

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>>25700355
post a better one
protip: you can't

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Are you guys seriously going to keep this going instead of talking puppets?

Anyway, what's the best way to make a flawless IV puppet, but leave the smallest bonus to their Focus Attack? That's assuming I don't already have one with those stats ready to help reincarnate, of course.

>>25700606
>and almost fucked Gensokyo because she was a poor loser.
You know if you're gonna hate her then you should at least hate her for the right reasons.

She didn't try to blow up the barrier because she was a sore loser, but because she was scared out of her wits. She was trying to run away and actively distance herself from all that happened, and then all of a sudden Reimu shows up and pretty much "you're not leaving, bitch, you're coming with me". Sumi then pretty much lost it and went full on "if i'm going to die, then i'm taking the barrier down with me"

Funnily enough, if Reimu hadn't been an idiot and actually explained WHY she wanted Sumireko to come with her, then they could have avoided the barrier almost getting destroyed. But I guess that doesn't make for good drama.

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>>25700869
Reincarnate randomly until you find one that has an E- to FoATK, then start using that paired up with an all S puppet until the end result has more S-ranks and still has the E-. Repeat until it's all S-ranks except for the E- FoATK

Repeat again with another puppet.

Enjoy your reduced FoATK for dealing with the game's Foul Play equivalent.

>>25700914
>if i'm going to die, then i'm taking the barrier down with me"

Exactly what poor loser means. The only people not to drop the whole incident thing after losing badly are her and Seija and both go against the few things that keeep gensokyo aroundand other fighting game bosses, but that really would depend on which routes are actually canon.

>>25700914
I finally realize why i dislike Sumireko, she makes gensokyo look even more jerkass, instead of just explaining to her that the way she entered messes up the barrier (and she honestly didn't have idea), they scared the shit outta her to the point she almost suicide bomb gensokyo out of panic.

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>>25701710
>Exactly what poor loser means.
Dude, she wasn't going to do it because her plan failed. She was going to do it because, after getting beat up after getting to Gensokyo, getting beat up after deciding to leave and then getting beat up on the way out, Reimu wanted to fish her back in to beat her up some more (or so Sumi assumed). She was scared, man.

Although, to be 100% fair to Reimu here, it was either this, or let Kasen and Mamizou continue with their fuck-stupid plan which would have resulted in Sumireko getting scared again, activating the Lunar Capital occult ball again, and this time destroying the barrier without issue. Also Sumireko is a bit of a drama queen, so even if Reimu decided to explain what was going on, she may have not agreed to go back to Gensokyo (meaning the end result would have been the same).

>>25702091
Gensokyo has always been a jerkass place, though. Why, you're actively encouraged to beat up fairies if you get the chance.

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>>25700654
Cape rankings.

Okuu > Sekibanki > Wriggle > The Count > Mima> Miko > Sumireko
Not counting one off costumes or tiny capes

Why are Okuus so fast? You shouldn't be quick with a cement shoe.

>>25702534
>Wriggle
Ranking invalidated.

>>25702404
Sumireko's life must suck

>her waking hours suck
>she realizes the dream world she ends up in when she sleeps is more than a dream
>wants to see if it would be possible to open a passage there to be there all the time
>doesn't realize or know how unbelievably BAD this would be
>everyone begins beating her up, her very dreams start turning into a personal hell
>is tricked into going there in reality
>beaten up
>beaten up more
>realizes that her dream world is a horrible place
>keeps being beaten up
>finally escapes
>they're chasing after her
>in sheer panic and desperation and thinking her life is already forfeit, plans to just blast the barrier open with her life as the catalyst
>is beaten up even more
>was actually just the pawn of an ancient alien race seeking to overlay their capital with the dream world and wipe it clean of all life, as well as possibly the entire Earth to boot (because their home was being overrun by something even WORSE than they were)
>still has no friends in real life
>still dreams of that horrible twisted hell every time she sleeps

Being Sumireko is pure suffering.

>>25702853
I guess that's ZUN personal message to whoever wants to go to Gensokyo (like Sumireko did), "your life is going to suck".

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>>25702853
Wait a minute anon, let's not be hasty.

Junko is definetly not as bad as lunarians.

>>25688854
I want to try hosting a game. Do I need to port forward or anything else or can I just give you guys my IP?
Would you want to play pre-expansion matches with a shitter?

>>25702935
Is Sumireko worse than the Lunarians

>>25703205
Well, Sumireko didn't manipulate a naive high-school nerd into doing her dirty work for her because she couldn't be arsed to do it herself.

>>25703229
On the other hand, even the moonbitches are infinitely more likable than Sumireko.

>>25703252
That's your opinion.

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Can this thread stop bullying people already and start discussing how cute everyone is?

>>25703148
>pre-expansion
Makes me wonder how many people actually got to that point that are still here.

>>25703811
me
full cleared game at 100% pre expansion
Missing battle tower on expansion

OST WHEN

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>>25703811
I'm here, still waiting for the expansion translation to play it.

>tfw no english patch

What are these alternate costumes for the puppets? Are they like another kind of shiny?

Okay so i'm in pre expansion makai, is there an easy method of level grinding for pandemonium?

>>25705619
You can buy them from a shop in the lower right area of the Human Village

>>25705689
The girl in the white dress and sunhat is your Pokemon Center. You'll also notice there is grass.

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>>25705868
>Tfw when i was already doing this
Well by the time i`m ready, i`ll be rich at least.

>>25706003
Ignore those guys, quickest way is to fight Yuki, hag map and heal then go back again. When you can take her reliably, beat both her and Mai. You then should be high enough to defeat the other two.

>>25688854
Is there a skill like the one in pokemon that leaves them with 1hp no matter what? If so, where can I find it?

I'd like to got catch them all.

>>25706105
You don't need it. Seals don't work like pokeballs. Simply use the best seal you desire to and then you have about 3 turns to KO the puppet. If you do so, you capture them instantly.

>>25706143
Oh yeah, that's right. Well I just missed out on a few puppets I wanted because I'm an idiot.
I haven't played in awhile.

While I'm here, where do I go after I cleared the Scarlet devil Mansion and reached the Kappa place with the cave?

>>25706182
Get the surf thing from Nitori, begin the ascent of the mountain.

>>25706196
Ok sorry for the stupid question again, where is Nitori?

I promise I'll leave after this.

>>25702853
she needs a hug

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>>25703294
But i want to bully 2hus cause they are cute.

For example this autistic flea ridden slut.

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Flandre, Sekibanki and Star are the only ones I don't want to change no matter what.

What other cute puppets should I aim for? I'm only familiar with the more commonly known ones unfortunately.
The cuter the puppet, the better.

Also Flandre a best.

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>>25706646
Pre-expansion, I assume? Speed Nitori is fantastic and cute as heck.

Other than that Defense Kokoro and Assist Hatate also did pretty well for me.

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>>25706814
Yeah, pre-expansion. I'll have to give them a try then. Thanks man.

I'm also quite fond of the fairy trio with Sunny, Luna and Star. So I'll probably level them up a little.

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>>25706869
To give you an idea on Speed Nitori, here's the irredeemably weak Nitori who almost solo'd the E4 equivalent for me.

I did pretty much cheat my way through it though
Camo is OP as heck

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So, serious talk. VoltTurn is absurdly widespread in TPDP and I'm not sure why I don't see it mentioned more in these threads. Both Volt Switch and U-Turn are absurdly potent in almost all Pokemon metas (even VGC Doubles to an extent) and are balanced by their limited distribution. Typically, only Flying-types and Bug-types get significant access to U-turn, with a smattering of Electric-types getting access to Volt Switch. None of these three types are particularly dominating.

Even so, when U-turn was first introduced to Pokemon in Gen IV it was a massive buff to the long-suffering Bug-types for its absurd momentum-granting capabilities, and made stuff like Scizor far harder to stop than they had any right to be. Fast-forward two gens, Volt Switch has been introduced and and some shitter called Landorus-T is sitting at the top of OU - 83% of all Landorus-T sets in OU used U-turn in January.

In TPDP, that sense of balance is thrown out the window. By my counts pre-expansion, literally over half of all puppets have access to either Lightning Speed or Changeling - 123/236 styles have one or both (~52%).

And then TPDP gave it to half of the goddamn puppetdex. And changed the typing for U-turn to Dark, a typing which isn't resisted by nearly half of the entire type chart, and can be buffed by weather.

I don't think I've seen this mentioned in these threads, which is a shame, because it's about as much of a gamechanger as - say - giving Defog or Rapid Spin to half of the Pokedex (which TPDP also did). If Smogon had to adapt to that half suddenly gaining the ability to blow away all hazards and do drive-by shootings, I'm pretty sure the entire tiering system would be temporarily scrapped until the dust settled.

And this is all pre-expansion. I'm not accounting for all the new puppets, or the new Warp-type Rapid Spin. Now when will Hemo give everything Geomancy?

(On the other hand, if everyone has it, does it define the meta? Food for thought.)

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>>25707015
So having A or S for your stats doesn't even matter for the story battles? I've been avoiding puppets with (lower?/higher?) letters because I assumed they were bad.

Maybe I should read up a little more about the game instead of spending my time collecting cute puppets.

>>25706212
there's a kappa in the cave that will take you to the kappa village
if you're already there, just keep looking around

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>>25706646
If you're into rabbits you sick fuck then Udonge and Gyokuto both can put in some serious work. GyokutoS in particular gets very fast, has a hilariously dumb amount of coverage, and gets shit like Strategist Purple Lightning/Shake Gear (hello 150 BP Steel move with no downsides).

GengetsuS is also an even faster and harder-hitting puppet if you want something even more cute and don't mind spending the rest of your life mortified of priority moves and light breezes. She gets way better in the expansion too, even if the last thing she needed was more ways to die instantly with STAB Volt Tackle while massacring everything in sight.

>>25707133
i prefer the gayser on gyokuto. combine with startegist and maybe a choice item she is unstoppable.

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>>25707133
Definitely getting me a Gengetsu now, sounds right up my alley.

I'm also going to get the rabbits just because I'm into rabbits.

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>>25707058
The letter grades are essentially the puppet's IVs. Once you collect enough puppets then you can begin reincarnating puppets (essentially rerolling their IVs and nature from level 1) at the Scarlet Devil Mansion. It's not important 'till post game though, so keep sealing away!

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>>25707254
That's great, I don't have to worry about anything then, I'll just focus on my goal of the cutest puppet party ever conceived.

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>>25707274
I expect good taste in puppets from you.

>>25707038
>Warp-type Rapid Spin

What are you talking about

>>25707038
Mostly becomes something to take into account. Unlike spin which is only relevant when hazards are used (and given how faster the game is, it pretty much only means both teams will have about 2 puppets with three moves).

Switch moves on the other hand can at best be stopped by earth types, and only half of them, so everyone takes the possibility of them existing into account (fog isn't that frequent of weather, by the way) and I guess you just get used to it.

The interesting part of giving everyone spin is that you aren't forced to run some mons, which funnily enough makes hazards less frequent since there isn't a single big user in the enemy team you're free to knock out then set up sneaky irons freely. The problem is that while spin is a defensive and reactive strategy, switches are an offensive always viable one. Doesn't help their biggest counter are things like traps too, but it should also be noted out version of pursuit is significantly better and nicely distributed too.

I dunno what to say, really something harmful I had never taken into account since there's pretty much no punishment for those moves which I've hated since their introduction, as well as buffing the uglier mon instead of Scyther. But might be the case of if everyone can do it, then it's not as bad.
Also flying was a fucking sick type, switch into earthquakes, almost always has a great secondary typing and SE many important threats.


>>25706212
Sorry, I thought you didn't need more help so I went to sleep.

How come weather is so uncommon in this game anyways?

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>>25708363
Weather-inducing abilities are like how they are in Gen 6, and the weathers are generally not as good as they are in Pokemon to begin with (Fog is the only real standout; Aurora is boosting arguably the worst attacking type in the game, Sandstorm lacks the massive amount of things that made it good in Pokemon like Tyranitar existing and a good suite of great Pokemon to take advantage of it, and the others make Pokemon's Hail look good in comparison).

Going all-in on weather is doable if you run RenkoS, but you're using a team slot up on a BST 375 to do so. Doing so means you can much more easily get away with using MaribelP though.

>>25708423
What about calm weather?

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>>25708553
I actually had to look up what it did because it was so irrelevant that I forgot.

Nope. Maybe you could build around it by just setting it up and then spamming drawback moves if those drawbacks are cancelled out?

>>25708616
well balistic correction is a thing. also, i know there is ability that trade add effects for power, but i wonder if calm cancel its boost or not. also, no add effects is nice defensively, meaning that enemyy that likes to use stat boosting attacks will be stuck with low power moves. I think it doesn't cancel out soome other effects like switching out or knocking items off, sadly.

>>25708681
Actually, it doesn't forbid those moves. It only weakens attacks that deal damage and have stuff like 10% chance of inflicting poison or similar. Stat boosting have no secondary effects, they have only a main effect, boost your stats.

>>25708128
Brain fart, I think I was thinking of the Warp-type Brick Break when I said that but I almost always post when sleep-deprived so we may never know.

>>25709008
i didn't say it forbid those moves, im just saying that add effect moves that boost stats have low bp, and without the added effect they are just some low bp moves.

i did say 'stat boosting attacks' not 'stat boosting moves'.

>>25709103
Oh, right, sorry. Though I don't see such attacks used frequently.

>tfw it's been 5 days since hemo last drew something for his ddc series

>>25710872
He forgot that no one in DDC is worth existing and only remembered halfway through

>>25711900
>no one in DDC is worth existing

>who is sekibanki
>who is seija
>who is shinmyoumaru
>who is raiko

>>25711920
>literally who
>only memorable because lolbackwardsedgy
>too tiny to remember
>worst EX boss in series history by a country mile

>>25711957
>i have shit taste
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>edgy
>my memory is shit
>i have shit taste 2

>>25711980
>you have shit taste
>"I want to fuck everything over because I literally hate what everyone else likes"
>no one cares about tiny anyways
>you have the shittiest taste in EX bosses ever

>>25712200
>i'll keep eating shit, thank you very much
>being an asshole is the same as being edgy
>implying
>as said by the guy that probably likes Ran

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>>25712200
Raiko is a drum. Your opinions are irrelevant.

How important is the competitive viability of a puppet

>tfw no english patch

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>>25711920
>shinmyoumaru
>forgeable
Biggest bullshit ever.

>>25714168
Yeah. That's what I said.

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>>25714228
Fuck, replied wrong post, sorry anon.

>>25712999
How badly do you want to win

>>25715552
As much as possible.

If it isn't OU, it is beyond useless.

I am a hardcore smogfag

>>25712999
It isn't important at all since everything is viable in some form

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>>25715681
As someone who arrived here with basically that same mindset, this is not the game for you.

>>25716026
What makes you think that

Where are the tier lists

>>25716898
Here's the tier list:

TOP TIER: My waifu
SHIT TIER: Your waifu

>>25716911
No, I mean the tier list of things that are actually good, not the tier list of favorites

>/vp/
???

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>>25716980
Do you want to try making one despite it ultimately meaning nothing due to the fact that everything is good?

>>25717027
Yes.

...you guys seriously don't have a tier list? No OU or Ubers?

>>25717116
What's the point of having tiers if everything would be in the same tier?

>>25717152
Did you ban everything or something?

>>25717177
The exact opposite, anon. We can use everything.

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>>25717177
>touhoumon
>bans
Kek

>>25716980
Heres the tier list
OU: everything not normal style
PU: any normal style

>>25717302
>no bans
>claim balance

How could this be balanced when Pokemon is still unbalanced as fuck even with bans?

>>25717427
>How could this be balanced when Pokemon is still unbalanced as fuck even with bans?
Because it doesn`t casually have 600+bst monsters flying about?

>>25717427
The fact there aren't bans means the game is balanced.

What areas are unlocked after you beat the game? I know the basement ice cave and giant toad pond are unlocked, but is there anything else?

>>25717434
But those are the best ones to use

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Sekibanki is cute.

>>25717894
Theres a game with plenty of that, its called pokemon, its like going to an american football game and whinging its not rugby.

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Is there an item like the inflatable boat that lets you teleport/fly to any destination? How long after the Kappa place is it?

I keep getting lost badly.

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>>25718158
The gap map its somewhere below yokai mountain, beyond those smashable rocks just before the temple, keep heading south until you find a rest stop then head east, you`ll find some members of the PLF defeat the fairies head north, and check the houses until you find a girl inside one of them who gives you the gap map.

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>>25718211
Alright, I'll just continue up the mountain for now then.

Thank you.

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>>25718211
mfw I missed the Gap Map and still did most of the game running back and forth, getting lost after the Nuclear Reactor, THEN finally getting the Gap Map after the Garden of the Sun.

>>25718120
But seriously.

How the fuck is it possible for this game to be balanced when Pokemon, a series made by a company that has rehashed the formula so many times it has done so for over 2 decades, still is unbalanced as fuck unless you use Smogon's ruleset?

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>Cycling around like a madman.
>Having a blast collecting puppets and climbing mountains.
>Run into Reimu.
>She completely wrecks me for no reason.
Well fine then, I didn't want to go to your stupid temple anyway.

>>25698580
hmm....so she's afraid of her own power and how deadly it could be.

>>25718287
I just explained why its balanced and you said "But dat no fun"

Also stall is unviable as is 2drag4u

>>25718645
>no stall
Good, fuck stall.
>2drag4u
I don't get it; you mean 4drag2mag?

>>25718287
pokemon wasn't made to be balanced. some pokemons are supposed to be stronger than others. sure, when its too much GF throws in the towel, but it wasn't supposed to be completly balanced.

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>>25718327
That is Reimu for you, an asshole.

>>25718287
Gamefreak isn't smart anon.

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>>25719973
Reimu isn't an asshole.
also, /r/ing that pasta where reimu is the villian in the toho games.

Probably not the place, but anyone play moemon here? I can't fucking find a Surskit.

>>25721671
same route as ralts.

>>25719090
I know.

How many people worked on this game and how many worked on Pokemon? Exactly.

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>>25718287

Nothing will convince me that you aren't the same anon who's been asking this question for the last five dozen threads.

If you aren't, why not try lurking more or reading the archives because there's a dedicated troll who uses this exact smogonfag bait every thread (hint: it's you)

>>25721940
Sorry sorry, honestly didn't know

Guess I do need to lurk more

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>>25721952
Let me help

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reminder that translation never

>>25721940
its still fun repeating it.
tpdp is balanced.
its such a nice fact to type. and its a good excuse to bump.

>>25722118
We could, y'know, discuss the game or touhou in general instead.

Does the expension explain anything about the Yukari puppet?

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>>25722010
Translation eventually, just be patient.

>>25722132
If seems that specific yukari's puppet is from the old hag herself and used it to drag MC into Gensokyo.

>>25722189
Why is Raiko always with a drum

>>25722893
Raiko is a drum, the real question is, who is that fugly girl thats always with reiko.
jk, reiko is both the girl and the drum, they are part of a single entity.

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>>25722893
Raiko is a drum.

The cutest and happiest drum.

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How viable is DARKNESS INCARNATE

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>>25723665
Pretty damn good, actually.

Defense Rumia is a tanky Dark-type pivot with STAB Changeling and Healing Power. Power Tokiko arguably outclasses her pre-SoD outside of Rumia's stronger Changeling, but if you're playing with the expansion she's an alternative to the bird that resists Warp instead of being weak to it.

Power Rumia is the hardest-hitting spread attacker in the entire game if she goes for Brutality (which tanks her accuracy), but apart from a slightly above-average Speed her other stats are unsalvageable. Either ditch Brutality and use a Choice Scarf to make her a bit faster, or give her Binoculars to patch up the accuracy issues and use her as a tactical nuke. Dark/Fire is also really good for offensive STAB in TPDP, so there's that.

Extra Rumia is an odd Dark/Warp-type that's terrifying in Fog due to her high focus attack and average Speed combined with good STABs and Fog Traveler, but outside of Fog is sadly a dime-a-dozen bulky, slowish focus attacker with high spread defense - but is hampered by unusably bad Defense, even with investment. Outside of dedicated fog teams she's outclassed, especially since a ton of extra styles fill the same niche way better.

All her styles are completely viable, but RumiaP shines a bit more by being less niche than the others.

>tfw no english patch

>>25724728
>>tfw no english patch

>>25724803
>>>tfw no english patch

>tfw no dragons

>tfw no fortune teller puppet

>>25725050
>tfw steel sucks

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>>25725143
>mfw stall is dead

>>25724728
>tfw OP isn't updating to count down the number of months remaining until the expansion translation hits

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>>25725678
>Implying it's not perpetually months away because it's never going to fucking happen

>>25725678
>tfw even still, it's not inaccurate

>>25688854
Okay, real talk, every puppet is viable, but which ones would you say have only one good style? I noticed this is the case for many I cought at least.

>>25725143
>tfw you try to use tpdp steel defensively
git gud

>>25726333
It's apparently stalled out right now thanks to the dreaded curse of real life, but will go back into high gear soon

Until then, we can discuss what is truly important

The viability of puppets if they were in Pokemon

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>>25729140
>Speed nazrin
>Fairies on suicide watch
>Diancie loses 50% health on switch in
Neat

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>>25729140
The most important thing is type effectiveness.
I think that puppets should maintain their weaknesses and ressitances from tpdp, so grass puppets are weak to steel moves. same way around, for pokemon, so water pokemons aren't weak to miasama.
question is, what does each type corrosponds to?

void = normal?
fire = fire
water= water
nature = grass...
earth = ground/rock? im more for ground since wind immune to it... what do you guys think?
steel=steel the types are vastly different but the concept the same
wind = flying
electric = electric
dark = dark
light = fairy? dragon?
nether = ghost
miasama = poison
figting = fighting
illusion = psychic? dragon?
sound = dragon???
dream = psychic?
warped =???

no ice representive... figures.

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now that I think about it, remember old touhoumon? how do you think it will change now, that fairy type exist and Cirno gets it?

>>25729140
The real question is what would Smogon do if puppets were in Pokemon

>>25729612
makes everything ou.
and i mean existing pokemons as well.

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>>25729649
This would be a horrible idea and you know it

Smogon would do something better: Ban all the Pokemon.

>>25729430
i think that ice, dragon and rock should be pokemon exclusive, while sound, warped and illusion would be puppet exlusive. in this case, i think ice should be se vs nature and such alteration regarding adding new types.

>>25729934
>Smogon
>Doing something smart

>>25729430
Dream is ??? equivalent, if the type had representatives, illusion is almost identical to psychic.

I want to crush everything with a mono-Sound team

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Hemo is back, but didn't do Seija, he got back to his waifu, too lewd for this board so have a link
>https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2314183?tags=hemogurobin_a1c

>>25731406
>he stopped doing DDC right before the best character
HEMOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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If calm weather is it's own weather, what is the weather like when no weather has been induced at all?

>>25732752
Natural weather.

>>25732752
Sunny but not sunny enough to buff fire moves.

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>>25732752
Normal weather. Maybe the sky is clear but it's windy. Maybe the sun is shining pretty harshly (but not boosting Fire because this isn't Pokemon). Maybe it's raining (and not boosting water). Maybe it's a thunderstorm (ditto). Maybe even it's hail, except puppets don't take damage from hail because puppets are cool like that.

It's not the complete absence of weather at all, a sandstorm, an aurora lighting up the sky, a sandstorm, or a sunshower. It's anything other than those.

Quick question:

Is it better to go for Scizor's Mega Evolution or is the old "slap Choice Band on it" strategy still viable in Gen 6?

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>>25734614
Band is still viable. What you want to check is whether he's worth the mega slot in your team or not, usually a regular one who keeps whittling down the enemy team with banded U-turns/bullet punches is more than enough to get the job done and I'd save the mega for soemthing like Megasaur, but that's personal preference.
I don't really like Scizor because Scyther is so much cooler but it had to be made worse.

Also I think you're in the wrong thread.

Ok, I'm kind of bored:

Which one of these Pokemon should I breed/SR for until I get a good one?

Landorus-T
Deoxys
Alakazam
Altaria
Clefable
Serperior (HA)
Weavile

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>>25734614
Anon, i think you are lost.

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>>25735278
Why are there so many muscle-bound Jojo-styled Touhou comics and pictures? Not that I think they're bad or anything.

>>25735322
ZUN went ahead and said Meido was based on Dio once, even if everyone knew, it escalated from there.

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>>25735322
ZUN flat out admitted that he is a jojofag and Sakuya is a walking reference to DIO.

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>>25735346
>>25735424
I see, it was pretty obvious though, what with the time powers and knives.
Not that I actually know anything about JoJo, well other than ZA WAARRUDDDOO and ORAORAORAORAORAORA.

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>>25735456
>He doesn't know Jojo

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>>25735473
There's a lot of manga and seasons man, I wouldn't know what to read. Same reason I never bothered to try out the Fate series.

I did read the manga with Dio's origin story though, you know the one with the attempted NTR and the burning dog.

I'm at the E4 equivalent right now and I'm getting my shit pushed in. Should I just go grind some puppets in the cave I just passed through, or is there a better location?

>>25735000
Answer please, I have nothing to do and I need to find an excuse to go back to Pokemon

>>25735000
>>25736338
Or maybe put your posts in the appropiate thread, nerd.

>>25736338
Wait for pokeman sun and moon news.

>>25736338
Just get Serperior, it's smug, majestic and pretty.

Why do you need to ask us anyway?

>>25736421
Boredom, and so I have an excuse to go back to the inferior games

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>>25735000
RaikoP.

>>25688854
Not pokemon
Go back to /a/, or/ /h/ or /trash/

>>25737292
You are like three months late for this.

>>25737292
Anon pls.

>tfw no english patch

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>>25735322
Cho marisa is kinda a meme, but other buff tohos are rare.
except yuugi.

>>25735456
WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>25735473
not anyone watch the same mainstream stuff you watch.

>>25736338
play touhoumon. its midway between tpdp and pokemon.

>>25736117
use the wild grass in the last city men.
you do know L/R bottuns can switch map mode for the gap right?

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Is there a good place to level up around this point? I'm at the top of Youkai Mountain and Kanako is being not very nice.

>>25742174
Go down the mountain through the other side, get the hag map and when you reach the bottom go back and beat her.

>>25742216
I have the Gap Map already, I just die when I get to Kanako's Kanako.

>>25742223
Whats your team?

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>>25742250
The bottom two are currently being levelled.

>>25742174
Kanako is optinal anyways, you can skip her.

>>25742315
So I just head down the mountain then? I still kind of want to win though.

You guys didn't answer my question, but thanks.

>>25742271
why is kanako kanako's giving you trouble?

>>25742342
playing the game is the best way to level up, because grinding is boring.

>>25742347
Because my adorable puppets get hurt badly before I reach her, and then they are at Kanako's Kanako's mercy.

Basically I just have no idea what type anything is, so I've just been choosing the cute puppets. It's hard to tell when half the puppets have the same red/white/blonde colour scheme.

>>25742350
I enjoy being OP though.

>>25742370
http://tpdp.supersanctuary.net/wiki/Puppetdex

knowing the types is half the battle.

>>25742271
>no steel

Overtake strike ends her quickly. Either way, don't know who in your team has any chance of koing her fast enough except Flan, if she was overleveled. I think the Aki sister might have a chance.

>>25742392
Yeah, I'm starting to realise I can't just power through everything like you can in Pokemon. I may have to rework my team soon.

>>25742414
I do have a lvl 47 Nazrin, so I'll give her a shot.

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>>25737240
Actually, I realized I never caught a good Landorus in my copy of AS so I decided to go do that.

It took me over an hour just to PREPARE (catching an Impish Ralts, breeding it until it had Synchronise, getting a Swellow with a speed 1 point below a perfect speed IV level 50 Landorus, stocking up on Repeat Balls)

Then I realized the odds of getting a good Landorus are astronomically small (1/1024 to get pentaflawless, then another 1/6 for the pentaflawless to NOT include SpATK (although a 4 IV could still be keepable), and then a 1/2 chance for the Synchronize to even work) and that

Then I also realized in the time it took for me to PREPARE to SR like no tomorrow I could have reincarnated a puppet to 5 or 6 perfect IVs, EV trained it, and leveled the thing to 70 to unlock the full moveset and have the thing completely ready for competitive puppet battles. And five puppets total would need a push to level 100 for their last move.

Thus concludes my return to playing Pokemon. Off to go reincarnate and level up this Kasen.

>>25742392
>>25742414
Well that was easier than before, Nazrin and her Killing Bite are a godsend

A moment of silence for Star and Daiyousei who gave their lives for this victory.

[spoiler[My Star has an S rank in Spread Attack, but no Spread moves.[/spoiler]

>>25742539
what evs did you give her? anyway base stats more important than ivs

>>25742448
Stop lying, we all know you couldn't stand not having her on your team

who is the cutest puppet?

>>25744489
marisa

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>>25744489

>>25744489
Depends of OPINIONS.

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>>25744489
A subjective question deserves a subjective and, to be honest, biased answer.

Raiko.

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Briefly looked over the usage stats. It appears that the much hyped WakasagiE has finally made her way up to OU usage.

>>25746111
>god slayer.jpg

Why

>>25746473
If I see that screencap followed by Shinmyoumaru hugging finger.jpg one more time, I'm fucking losing it.

Just downloaded this. Am I able to get VIVIT?

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>>25746692

>>25746715
nope, no seihous

>>25746763
Darn

I was reading up on this on the touhou wiki and it it said you could in get her a different version then. I've got a soft spot for PC98 and seihou.

It's telling me that the game data is invalid and to reinstall. Is there a workaround to this?

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>>25700654
>>25702534
Yumemi has the best cape you pricks

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>>25746988
>Sumireko's cape has runes on the inside
>Utsuho's has outer space on the inside
>Miko's has dragons that can change color on the outside

>Yumemi's has an uncreative, ordinary black cape

>>25747271
Leave it to a sumireko faggot to be unable to understand subtlety and simple designs.

>>25747342
i don't think sumireko fags can understand anything

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>>25747342
>this thing
>simple
Wanna see a simple design? Maribel Hearn.

>capes
>subtle
Yeah, man, I totally wear big, sinister fucking capes when I don't want to draw attention to myself. Works every time.

>>25747271
Red outside with a black inside is classy as fuck. Also, Yumemi's just a human college professor without any real magic powers, of course she's going to have a normal cape.

You Sumireko fags are an insult to Renko's family.

>>25747398
She doesn't wear it for attention, she just does it because she just likes to have a bigass cape when she's fighting, that's all.

Plus it goes well with her color scheme, unlike a certain other cape-wearing human 2hu.

Can we stop bullying 2hus again

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>>25747411
>Red outside
We don't know that, her portraits only show the inside and her cape disappears during gameplay so we can't see the outside. Unless you're talking about her capelet (I think that's what it's called), which looks cool but isn't a part of her cape mind you.
>Also, Yumemi's just a human college professor without any real magic powers, of course she's going to have a normal cape.
Where do you live that college professors go around with giant capes? Because that sounds pretty awesome. And no magic powers? But she can fly and shoot regular danmaku without any external aids.

>>25747471
>She doesn't wear it for attention, she just does it because she just likes to have a bigass cape when she's fighting, that's all.
Nice headcanon. A funny one too, given that as I mentioned earlier, her cape disappears during the actual fight and is only seen in some of her portraits.
>unlike
Yeah, that's your opinion.

Speaking of Yumemi, how should I be building her? I'm new to this.

>>25747543
Have you played the game? Her whole thing is how she came to Gensokyo to disprove a big theory and study real magic, as opposed to the outside world's artificial magic. I can't confirm the red outside thing, though I thought it showed it in one of the cutscenes.

Also, before her boss fight she goes on a whole thing about how she must prepare for battle, and then she puts on the cape. Her cape also shows up on the sprite that goes into the opposite window during the fight when she uses a max energy spell.

>>25747635
I didn't play PoDD a whole lot so, fair enough, let's go with what you say.

But still, Yumemi's cape, when seen by itself and not as part of Yumemi's overall design, it's objectively less exciting than any other 2hu cape as it lacks any details at all. Does that make it better or worse? I dunno. I just don't consider it a "best" cape when we have some that have more elaborate designs. But yeah, opinions and what not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTLqnME57vo

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Guys, I think Pokemon might be unbalanced

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>>25748091
Congrats Watson.

>>25748091
No, all this does is prove that TPCi and GF no longer know how to balance their own game.

Hail Smogon

>>25748334
Sorry, how many OU games can I play without facing Landorus again?

>>25748445
There's nothing wrong with that

Landorus is popular because he keeps a lot of things in check, that's all

>>25748534
>wrong thing in the image is how similar teams are
>let's pretend just because smogon isn't as shit they have as much variety as puppets do

Don't you have a showderp thread to crash?

>>25748784
I am not saying that puppets don't have more variety, I am simply saying that there's nothing wrong with some centralization.

And if the teams in the VGC being 2/3rds identical and the remaining 1/3rd being nearly if not completely identical is NOT the wrong thing, what is

>>25748334
>no longer know how to balance
They never wanted to. It is the manchild that wants to play competitively a game for 10yo kids.
It is like saying that hop, skip, and jump is unbalanced, and that the smogon version of hop, skip, and jump is better.

>>25748835
What is...?
WHAT IS...?
Don't leave me hanging anon.

>>25749137
That's what I mean. If the near-identical teams in the VGC isn't the problem being discussed, what's the problem then?

>>25749610
It is the problem, I'm saying smogon doesn't mitigate that enough.
Honestly, given that they don't mind editing the game to make things different from what is, changing more things to make it fairer wouldn't detract from it still being pokemon. As it is now, someone could easily make a romhack with pokemons themselves and it'd be more balanced. Heck, someone has probably made but we don't know it exists.

>>25749709
What would you fix then? Throw more bans at the problem?

>>25750112
Well removing problems is generally a good way to deal with them.

This might piss some folks off but i think smogon should ban more often, at least ban genies,hoopa-u and probs some stallers.

>>25750112
Maybe edit some files? You know technically sleep clause is actually just a differently worded way to say mons get immune to sleep if another in the team is asleep as well instead of a direct ban.

Smogon's approach to Pokemon, which I hate it: Let's try to remove issues from something that's unsalvagable by default and pretend it was that big instead of adressing the root of the problem. Pokemon is flawed by design and no amount of bans will ever make steel suck or eternal staples of OU fall out of use, making them at the mercy of GF's whims, who knows, maybe they'll add a freeze scald in the future and smogon will shit themselves than ban it.

What one could do instead and has been done frequently in actual pokemon hacks, though I have no examples that could be used competitively, would be to actually balance them, remove some moves, give some, adjust bsts, weaken and strengthen some types, etc.

As a metaphor, they're trying to rebuild a house that's a complete wreck, but instead of scrapping it and starting with the original guidemarks, they're still using it's frail foundations and just slapping more cement when it starts to give away.

Also, VGC wasn't that bad until they started allowing legendaries for no fucking reason. For instance, almost no one in smogon has the balls to do something like Picharisu and worlds used to be far more interesting than Smogon's tournaments.

>>25750367
>steel will never suck
>implying that doesn't apply to dragons better

Steel has actual issues when dealing with fire, fighting, and ground types usually. Dragons usually could care less about opposing ice types and have the type coverage to rip through steel types.

>>25750667
That's true, but I really didn't want to leave any room for that dragon faggot to come back.
Gen 6 would be much better if they had buffed dragon counters instead of creating fairy,

Power or speed Yumemi?

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>>25751033
Speed.
Has abetter offensive and defensive typing with only a single 4x weakness (and Fire/electric is just plain cool).
She loses only a bit on defenses and only 5 on Spread attack, but get a huge base 110 speed, enough to outspeed all but the most dedicated speedy types (Like Futo, Aya, you know who I'm talking about).

Both abilities are viable and both rely on you making smart switches. You can also give her burning stones to make her outspeed pretty much anyone.

I'd give her two STABs, lightning speed and a coverage move. Other options include Phase Inversion, Smash spin and maybe some quick barriers, but you don't want to take chances getting hit.

Don't use the costume or you lose the better than Sumireko's cape.

>>25751217
>Don't use the costume or you lose the better than Sumireko's cape.
You pickin' a fight, mate? You wanna go?

>>25751260
Sorry you can't accept she's smarter, stronger AND more stylish anon.

Cool abilities from expansion that I haven't seen mentioned around.

Extra Parsee gets Mega Kang's ability, at 60% power each hit.
Extra Akyuu is a mini Arceus with books for typings.
Extra Kokoro can use outrage equivalents with no drawbacks with 125 attack. Catch is their power is reduced to 90%.
Extra Mai can use two skills per turn.

>tfw no english patch

>>25751532
>akyuu

Sorry, meant Kosuzu

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>>25751217
The real question to be asked is how does one marry Yumemi.

>>25752189
With a wedding? Sounds like a good excuse to throw away that shit cape while she's not looking.

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>>25746876
jap locale.

>>25748091
Kudos to andrea for originality

>>25751217
>Don't use the costume or you lose the better than Sumireko's cape.
>not going for school themed team

>>25751532
>Mai is a red mage
oh wow

>tfw I don't care about half of my party because I only like a couple 2hus available to me in the part of the game I'm at
truly suffering

I'm at the big kappa place and I'm about to fight the fairy trio, will I be able to find Momiji, Ruukoto, and Suwako soon?

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>>25752778
Momiji is very close. its in the grass in the mountain you are about to climb.
Suwako is kinda close. once you reach sanae's shrine at top, go behind it use surf and search the grass. suwako is rare tough.
Ruukoto is still further away, but if you are in a hurry,
after getting rock smash, go right until you get yourself a gap map. go to human village and head right again, behind one of te breakable rocks there is a route with rokuuto.

>>25752886
Thanks. Will I be getting surf soon?

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>>25753001
You'll be getting a boat soon.

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Where do I get these two Touhou's from?
I'm not familiar with the plural.

>>25751532
>Extra Mai can use two skills per turn.

What

>>25753724
Those are Mugetsu (blue one) and Gengetsu (red one).

Not sure where you get them, though there's a list on the wiki you could check now that you know their names.

>>25753724
I think you can get those after you beat Medicine in the underground gayser.

>>25754488
That's the ability description, unsure how it works. Anyone who bothered with expansion care to try it?

>>25754880
I am pretty sure they were in garden of the sun
Dunno about expansion

>tfw no guy to bump this thread off of page 10

>>25757813
It's almost at bump limit anyway.
With that in mind, pick a new OP.
And please test Mai for me.

>>25758012
i went and tested it for you
mai's ability just removes the charge on solar beam-style attacks, allowing her to use them in one turn instead of two

>>25758509
That's anticlimatic. Which ones does she get?

>>25758723
the nature and warped ones, as far as i know

So what should be the next OP picture?

>>25759904
sumireko

>>25759927
Horrible idea
Sariel is superior choice

>>25760168
Should be someone with a cool cape instead of some random Sariel. This means no Sumireko.

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>>25760343
You know what's cooler than capes?

Drums.
Pick Raiko.

/obvious bias

>>25760343
>cool cape
>no Sumireko
That was a damn fine joke, nigga.

But let's avoid needless controversy and outrage and go with Raiko instead.