Touhou Puppet Dance Performance TPDP

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>>25585285
This pleases me.

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>>25585285
Only Raikoanon and some others can tell at first glance that girl is Raiko.

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First for fastest burd

>>25585432
>and some others
You mean almost everyone who frequent these threads?

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Literally weeks of peaceful threads, then this faggot show up.

>>25585604
Don't give him attention.

>>25585604
He cheated against my card. That's why I stopped playing yu-gi-oh.

>>25585585
accurate representation of those sandwiches tho

I know exactly who to blame for that garbage.

Renko needs to be bullied.

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Based mods, post 2hus to celebrate.

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>>25585727
No!

>THAT FEEL WHEN NO ENGLISH PATCH

>>25585753
She sucks. With permaweather. To the point of not being a dominant force.

Give one reason why she shouldn't be bullied.

>>25586010

Just leveling puppets endlessly 'till the expansion gets translated...

>>25586020
You don't need a reason to not buly people. you need a reason to do buly people. and she may suck, but she can do more than you can.

>>25587252
I already said my reason to bully her: Her being weak.

What, is that preferable to being strong?

>>25587347
She's stronger than you. and being weak isn't reason to bully.

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>all this bully talk
At least bully the actual source if this bully meme.

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>>25587347
I think you're missing the point of RenkoS.

She has permanent weather, and even with it she isn't centralizing the entire game around herself like literally every permanent weather user in Pokemon had in one tier or another (yes, even Abomasnow)

We shouldn't be bullying her for pulling that off, we should be praising her instead.

To begin with, she's cute.

>>25586010
>tfw no latin patch

>>25588279
>tfw no hebrew patch

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>>25588301
>tfw no japanese patch

>>25588311
>every time the game gets patched to a new ver its in jap

>>25587391
ZUN said that one is a no bully zone, everyone else is fair game, even Renko and Sumireko. Specially Renko and Sumireko.

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>>25589237
So... No more bullying Tenshi? Really?

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>>25589266
Well, I trust his judgement, you do whatever you want.

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>>25589286
I have a soft spot for her.

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>>25589237
Tenshi is the cutest when being bullied.

OST WHEN

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Looks like that Hemo is now doing DDC. Maybe we will get lewd Raiko.

>>25590070
No lewd? I guess how lewd the pic is depends how much he likes the character.

>>25587347
she may be weak, but that's no reason to bully her
bully sumireko for being ugly, instead

Why does this thread hate Sumireko so much?

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>>25592285
>Sumireko
>ugly

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>>25592285
you're ugly

>>25593470
i am not sumireko

>>25593641
no

>>25593641
shutup nerd

Fuck forgot to remove my email.

Anyways, if you missed it, I was saying that we should stop fighting and agree on how good Dragons are.

>>25593666
>>25593673
Why

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>>25593470
Sumi is UGLY, LOW-TIER, and LOW-USE.

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>>25594093
FIGHT ME

>>25594093
>>25594103
Stop fighting over which girl is better and agree that Dragons rule

>>25594448
Dragons aren't cute.

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>>25592322
I dunno about the thread, but myself is because Sumireko feel so out of place for a 2hu (the same could be say of Renko and Maribel but they never interact with other 2hus anyway).

>>25594448
no

>>25594459
>Goomy
>Dratini
>Gible
>Altaria

Wrong.

>>25594472
Why

>>25594491
none of the dragons you mentioned are cuter than puppets

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>>25594459
That can be fixed.

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>>25594506
That doesn't even match Rayquaza's color palette.

>>25594491
>Gible
>Goomy
>Altaria
>cute

Try posting REAL cuties.

>>25594528
pretty sure it's supposed to be a shiny 'quaza

>>25594505
What is cuter than puppets then

>>25594552
Porygon

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>>25594528
Because is supposed to be a shiny rayquaza.

>>25594571
>>25594541
Shiny Rayquaza is stupid and ugly.
Why would you make a girl out of that?

So if Dragon isn't the best type, what is

>>25595232
Normal

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>>25595232
Sound.

>>25595232
fairy

>>25595232
Now that I have your mail, can I send you porn of your favorite dragon?

>>25595859
No. please do not

I'm not interested in them that way

>>25595278
Sound isn't even a Pokemon type.

>>25596283
We aren't talking about pokeman here.

>>25596694
Fine, but Dragon is still cooler than Sound.

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>>25596715
Raiko exists, your claim is proven wrong.

>>25597534
Stockings are a blessing.

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>>25598975
Raiko is a blessing.

>>25595232
Rock
and in tpdp
steel

>>25601044
Give Steel the usual massive pile of resists and then we'll talk

>>25601091
In tpdp, where stall is obsolate, steel still manages to find itself top precentage due to its inerently offensive nature.

>>25601103
How do you obsolete stall? Is it possible to win matches by literally just sitting there and doing nothing at all?

>>25601184
Thats meta stall and even than its a contest of patiance on who will blink first. the game itself is hyper offensive.
Don't believe me? dl it and try for yourself.
(Feel free to share your experiance)

>>25600578
no, she is a musical instrument

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>>25601311
Yes, she is an adorable drum.

>>25601409
I'd pound that.

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>>25601417
Don't hurt her.

>>25601461
Don't worry, I only want to make her feel good.

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>>25601494
As long as she's happy.

I am addicted to Raiko.

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>YUKARI'S THEME

HOLY SHIT

WHO REMIXED THIS

THIS IS EVEN MUCH BETTER THAN ANYTHING ZUN AND GAMEFREAK HAVE DONE BEFORE

OST WHEN

>>25601784
>THIS IS EVEN MUCH BETTER THAN ANYTHING ZUN
Let's not get crazy.

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>>25602091

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Hemo please. Enough with dogs.

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>>25603312
He returned to draw his waifu, I thought he was doing DDC in order.

>>25603335
that's not new, not on his pixiv at least

>>25603382
I wonder why the danboorunians missed it for such a long time.

>>25603450
It's a bunch of cherry picking

>tfw this game is too balanced to grab easy wins

How am I supposed to get a ridiculous W/L rating

>>25604069
I will always find that funny

>>25604069
By losing on purpose
Or by getting better than the competition as a trainer.

>>25604069
The W/L rating only shows your last 30 battle anyway.

>>25604693
Really? So you can't get more ridiculous scores than 30-0 or 0-30?

>>25605015
Yes, I bet hemo did this to avoid peole bragging.

>>25604693
Seriously?

How the hell are you supposed to brag then? I assume there's no ladder either

>>25607278
I seriously don't get where these questions come from and whether they're falseflagging or you're actually this dense.

We're talking about a fangame, of a non-RPG series that is based on Pokemon that likely boasts an amount of players that percentage wise is likely as small to smogon as smogon is to Pokemon.
And you seriously expect it to have those sorts of features?

>>25607581
He's complaining for the sake of it.

>>25607581
Considering how many improvements were done elsewhere, you would think there would be stuff like that too

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>>25607803
I think you might be looking at this game wrong.

The metagame is literally using your favorite puppets and having them beat up their favorite puppets.

>>25607803
Those involve harder coding I assume.
Changing BPs, which characters get which moves and which types eaffect which can be done much faster.

>>25608277
Be ready, raikoanon, hemo is doing DDC in order, will reach raiko soon and may be very cute or very lewd.

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>>25610121
Hopefully the former.

>tfwnoenglishpatch

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>>25611257

>>25610340
i'm sure some part of you is hoping for the latter

>you will never be able to use an entire team of Dragons against the puppets and lose horribly because puppets are strong

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>>25612447
You know that if Dragons were in TPDP they would be severely nerfed, right?

Dragons are so dominant not just because their type is very strong both offensively and defensively, they're dominant because they have 2 moves (Outrage and Draco Meteor) with ridiculous distribution and very high BP, and because they tend to have very high BSTs.

If they were in TPDP, they'd probably end up something like this (hypothetically), have much lower BSTs in general, and Outrage/Draco Meteor would be on far fewer of them.

Dragon
ATK: 2x Dragon, 1/2x Steel, 1/2x Light, 0x Sound
DEF: 1/2x Fire, 1/2x Nature, 1/2x Poison, 1/2x Warp, 2x Sound, 2x Dragon, 2x Steel, 2x Water

>>25610340
That would mean hemo doesn't like Raiko.

>>25612603
>0x sound
>2x sound

Raikoanon pls

what if mega rayquaza were a puppet

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>>25615882
It would have a BST lower than 600, not be a Dragon/Flying type, and not be overpowered.

>tfw you will never be able to play Pokemon again without thinking about the several flaws it has

What is your opinion on competitive Pokemon

>>25616577
not as well-balanced as puppets

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>>25616619

>>25616603
>GF
>massive company
>Hemo
>one guy

That's hard to believe

>>25616657
show me proof that gamefreak actually gives even half a fuck about balancing their games

>>25616727
Gen 6 nerfing Steel, adding Faeries to nerf Dragons, nerfing Special Attacks a bit, etc.

>>25616738
this is the same generation that introduced megas and primals

>>25616841
Which were limited to 1 per team for the former and only on things that were broken to begin with for the latter

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Raiko.

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>>25619100
Would you let the drum sit on your lap?

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>>25619179
Yes.

>>25616896
So we can agree that Gamefreak DOES in fact care about balance, right?

>>25619497
The thing is, they only deal with glaring issues many years later. Dragon and steel were issues for many years and only now are they slightly less centralizing.

Meanwhile ice and poison still exist, the only box legendary(when those started to mean something) not to be uber is ice typed and poison's buff was being strong against fairy while that type. (I think the only poison mon you can consider good without needing a mega is gengar).

It's not that they actually care, it's that they don't want to let go their way but also don't want to deal with backlash as people increasingly become more aware of design flaws. Breeding being a good example, with 6th gen featuring many new conveniences for it since people don't really like running around with your bike, yet making greater conveniences won't happen unless a very vocal number of people boycotted or complained about, say, the fact that you can't get everything solo or some shit.

>>25620134
How does that contrast to TPDP then?

>>25620167
There aren't any awful types. Some are slightly better for defense (light) or offense (wind) but there's no type that suddently makes a puppet unviable as a bulky or sweeper function, like ice fucks over an otherwise interesting mon with Avalugg.

Breeding is just simplier, max ivs are a 1/16 insta chance which you can repeat non stop as long as you got some items.

Where's that one guy who was making that picture to show the different things it does better anyway?

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>>25620231
For starters, even Ubers are not immune to puppets

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>>25621001

>>25621001
This one only happens because she's being sent against an ideal opponent and a few things aren't properly mentioned, such as how the defense EVs are doubled, leading to her having a pretty fucking high phys defense.
And to point out the obvious, Primal Groudon has a base 150 Sp. Att. Assuming an universe where something like tiny puppet is a legitimate threat, running a mixed set would still be doable and anything from it's enourmous BST even if not properly supported would defeat it. And even if not so, Lava plume is even a somewhat common attack choice and would surely beat Shinmyoumaru.

Same goes for the fish, and in fact, if you simply swapped opponents they'd surely lose.

To put them in pokemon terms, they're the euqivalent of trying to physical attack a Skarmory/special attack a Chansey and wondering why you're not killing them. Or sending something without a SE move against Shedinja/Akyuu and actually trying to fight.

I mean, I prefer puppets, but those comparisons are hugely biased towards them without stating those differences bluntly to make them actually seem disproportionately better.

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>>25621288
The original post even mentions that if Groudon runs a setup move, a special attack, his stronger physical attack in Precipice Blades, or just runs Bulk, he wins.

It's less saying "this is what SukunaD can murder 100% of the time" and more saying "this is how hard she hits and how hard she can take a hit on the physical end"

She can survive a fucking Precipice Blades from 252+ Primal Groudon and LIVE despite being weak to it and can hit back for a huge chunk of damage. That's incredible for a BST 380.

She's also adorable and I want to snuggle her forever.

>>25621541
When I did the math, it seemed that she didn't, but I'm unsure which calculator you're supposed to use.

>>25621288
Actually the thing with the fish is that Primal Kyogre pretty much can't win outside of maybe Calm Mind shenanigans, and even then it will be very easy to revenge kill.

>>25621635
Did you remember to give her +2 DEF (since her ability doubles it) and full DEF investment?

>tfw no english patch

Should I go for ShinkiP or ShinkiS?

>>25623666
I would think Speed, but it depends on your team and what they need.

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How does my waifu fare in this game?

>>25623724
Excuse me, but that's MY waifu

Any word on a partial translation release or is it still in never ever land?

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>>25623724
>>25623736
I think you two have to go out now.

Power form is a good Fo. Att and Extra a good Sp. Att one, both slow but somewhat bulky. For some reason she usually doesn't get the best nether moves like starving spirit. But there is the nether double-edge I guess. Comes in very happy and evil perverted looks.
Honestly, there isn't much to say, only that she's good and people like her extra form the most.

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>>25624013
Thanks for the info familia.

I'm at Rumia right now and she's fucking my shit up. I should probably train some more puppets

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>>25624042
I think you can't pick many great ones yet, unless you want to farm for Shimyoumaru. Keine is in the village and she's quite good and Kokoro is rare but okay I guess.
Rumia likely wins because of her dark typing, so don't be afraid to search new ones.
I'll let you stay for now but she's mine.

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>>25624013
I was just joking, I'm more of a Komachi and Nitori person myself.

>>25624042
>>25624060
Might I also recommend Nazarin? She's really fast and learns a steel type move early on, which can help against a lot of the puppets.

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Why is touhou here?

>>25625326
>boats
And what are YOU doing here?

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>>25625520
kek I didn't even know that was a boat. But honestly why is this thread here?

>>25625525
this thread is for a fangame that's pokemon but with 2hus

>>25625525
The people from /v/'s Touhou threads were incredibly hostile to PDP discussion, so the people that wanted to talk about PDP moved here.
>but why not /jp/ or /vg/
I dunno, it wasn't my idea. I'm just here waiting for that English patch like everyone else is.

>>25625547
Weird. Oh well it's not like it's a board take over or anything.

>>25625563
>The people from /v/'s Touhou threads were incredibly hostile
Kek. You're giving him too much credit.

>>25625863
I'm not referring to only him. I said "people", in plural.

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New Hemo. Surprisingly tame.

>>25626897
That means he doesn't like benben a lot

>>25627591
does anybody? benben and her sister are like, the most forgettable 2hus yet

>>25627591
He wouldn't be the first.

Benben an absolute shit. She's the one we should be bullying.

>>25627814
More than the aki sisters?

>>25627814
Reminds me

https://youtu.be/iAhCWh5TkiM

>>25628342
The Aki's were at least made fun of for being forgettable for a while. Benben and her sister don't even have that.

>>25628490
Reminder that Raiko is the least popular Extra stage boss by a massive margin.

SHE should be bullied if anything.

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>>25628520
Please go and stay go. Forever.

>>25628520
Reminder that you're a massive faggot.

And the 'getsu sisters are less popular.

Which is the most underused puppet?

>>25625563
>not even touhoufags want you cents

losing
I would've thought they if anyone would be welcoming to discussing which loli would u bully xD ad naseum

>>25629861
Alright, now say that again but in English this time.

>>25629826
Is there even a way to determine this?

>tfw you can't easily win by just taking all the really overpowered stuff and craming it into your team
>tfw it doesn't matter because no ladder and the W/L record caps at 30 for some reason

Why does this game have to be better designed for competitive play than Pokemon but not actually SUPPORT competitive play

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>>25631483
Because it's fun just to play against others.

>>25631483
>>25632036
Just want to say though I understand the frustration and would like to see some more advances in the online play

>>25632036
But how am I supposed to prove my mastery in the art of having tiny puppets beat each other up without there being a ladder to show my ranking? How am I supposed to pretend that I'm actually good at this game rather than just someone who slams together a team taken from Smogon's analysis's of the strongest Pokemon, and taking it to the top of the rankings (with fine-tuning here and there to make the team not just copy-pasted garbage obviously)?

I know the type balance being better in this game is a good thing, but it makes building a good team more difficult.

>>25632036
Kappa is cute but also a jerkass jew. Hell, almost all the 2hus are assholes, you can count the number of 2hus you don't have to defeat first to gain respect with two hands.

>>25632733
By counting your wins and losses yourself probably.
It would be neat if we could get some third party thing that keeps track of our wins/losses and make a ladder via that.
We can dream though.

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>>25632909
Nitori is one of the worst kind of assholes, she's an asshole that would take all your money and not give a damn about what happens to you after, but that part is appealing to me.
Dunno why, but I can just deal with all the drawbacks the Kappa give.

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>>25632733
I should mention something about the type balance.

It used to be (as in before I first learned this game existed) that Sound was even more hilariously overpowered than Dragon: Only the Wind type resisted it, and unlike Dragon it only had a single weakness (to wind) and hit things other than itself for SE (i.e. Fighting and Illusion).

Also, Danmaku Orchestra used to be BP120, 100% accuracy, and 10 SP, because Draco Meteor wasn't spammable enough even with the drawback and 90% accuracy.

Did Hemo sit around and do nothing while Sound broke the game like Game Freak did with Dragons until it became so abundantly and blatantly obvious that they basically were pressured into nerfing their pet type?

Nope, he nerfed Danmaku Orchestra to being 85% accuracy and made it so Light and itself also resisted Sound, and the type became balanced immediately because the Sound types had been otherwise balanced properly.

Type balance is a very important thing and this game is much better at it than Pokemon.

>>25632993
she's also a racist murderer
being cute is the only thing she's got going for her, really

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>>25633611
>Racist
>implying that's a bad thing

>>25633820
I wonder why ZUN made that, her first appearence suggested she was a little shy friendly kappa, then ZUN destroyed that, i think he will destroy any "moe" interpretation his fandom has of any character,

>>25635092
He does that with other characters as well. People like Remi, Youmu, Yuyuko, Kanako, etc all have facades they start dropping more and more frequently after their first appearence.

It ain't always unmoeing character though.

>>25633466
So you're saying that if Dragon was in the game, it would be much worse?

>>25635446
Is there a one truly friendly 2hu?

>>25636263
Kosuzu?
Oh and Akyuu too.

>>25636263
>Well-meaning good people in touhou
Aki sisters, Hina, Kogasa (even if she's unawre of that), Akyuu, Keine.
Everyone else is either an asshole(to various degrees), someone who'd make the world better by not being born, all of the above or not developed enough to say.
There are also some that wouldn't go out of their way to help, but aren't that bad.

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>>25636380
Oh, right, I also almost forgot the definite good guy of Touhou.

>>25635092
>her first appearence suggested she was a little shy friendly kappa
She's a two-faced bitch. You fell for her act.

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>>25636380
Raiko seems nice enough.

>>25636808
She falls under the not developed enough category for me. Who knows, if she gets more exposure or even a PMiSS/SoPM styled article that could change.

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>>25636380
Didn't seeing Hina gives you bad luck even if she doesn't want to curse you because the nature of her powers?

>>25638245
Doesn't mean she's not friendly towards humans.

>literally /jp/: the thread

I want to __hug Renko

>>25636395
She may not be the friendliest, but she truly means well in her work.

>>25638901
Sorry, but you don't get to hug her unless you're her girlfriend or her onee-chan.

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>>25636263
A lot of "lesser" youkai like Kyouko and maybe Wakasagihime/Kagerou fit the bill by being too harmless to cause much trouble. Sukuna would probably fall into this category when she's not being manipulated by Seija too.

Komachi is pretty friendly as long as you're not trying to cheat death, Mokou's hobby (aside from gibbing Kaguya) is escorting people lost in the Bamboo Forest, and a lot more like most of Miko's/Byakuren's groups (special exception to Tojiko/Murasa) are friendly as long as you don't convert to the others' religion.

Expand to PC98 and you can find more, potentially including Kotohime, Ellen, Louise, and Orange (RIP).

But all of this depends on writing, so it's simpler to say everyone's an asshole and leave it at that except Orange, fuck you Reimu

>>25639247
I'd object by posting cute Renko, but I have none.

Whoops.

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>>25638612
I wish I could disagree, but fucking this. I lost interest in these threads a week or two back because of the constant circlejerking and lack of interest in any on-topic discussion. The only thing remotely on-topic has been copypaste responses to that one extremely dedicated Smogonfag (who is tragically the only person to remain consistently on-topic) and nonstop circlejerking to Raiko/Sukuna along with some Sumireko shitting for good measure.

I guess I'll start actively contributing when the expansion starts airing, but right now there's nothing to even contribute to. This is a tiny little island of /jp/ in the middle of /vp/ and it probably won't change until the expansion is translated.

>>25639760
You seem pretty angry.

Come on, we already said this'd happen multiple times both here and on /v/ some time ago. It's not like it's any surprise with many of those bad posts actually being just dreaded page 10 bumps.
Also, that smogonfag isn't that serious, replace all the times he says dragon with nether and you'll see how pointless his posts are, to the point I wonder if he's just a falseflagger having his share of fun with that easy bait. We had a real smogonfag discussing the differences here but that was a few weeks ago.

Anyway, we're simply suffering the fate that happens to singleplayer generals. Maybe we could've fixed this if we netplayed or some shit, but as is now without a translated expansion we're just eating thread space in /vp/. Space that would likely be used to talk about gardevoir or some other pointless shit.

>>25639760
We all already know this. You're not saying anything new either.

>>25639845
That's actually a good question. Why are we not playing netplay?

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>>25639845
We can always play Netplay without the expansion. I doubt anybody would want that though.

>>25639935
>>25640367
I guess people just dropped the game halfway after hearing that there'd be an expansion and can't be bothered picking it back up. Plus there's also the fact that they'd have to do everything all over again when the expansion comes out.

That's my case, at least.

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>>25639760
Sorry. I do prefer when things are on-topic myself so that it doesn't become retreads of the same thing over and over. I'll post Raiko pictures alongside what I say because Raiko is cute, but I usually try to have it tie into the game in some way rather than just posting for maximum Raiko.

To keep things on topic, why not craft a moveset for a given puppet and put it up for others to critique? That worked back when I was at Smogon sometimes, maybe it'll work here.

>>25640383
I don't get that, given you can simply import you team over from one game to the other.

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>>25640597
Actually, might as well start this off myself to try and get discussion going. This is post-expansion for reference, but doing pre-expansion analysis' are fine.

WriggleP
Ability: Telescopic
Nature: Red Mark
Held Item: Straw Doll,
Moveset: Mad Rush Stance, Bewitching Powder, Root Frog, Twilight Infection

Bewitching Powder was buffed in the Expansion to 70% accuracy, and combined with Telescopic for an ability results in a 91% accuracy stop-inducing move. Mad Rush Stance boosts your speed to ridiculous levels to outspeed almost the entire metagame and raises your FoATK further to help break through more bulky threats. Root Frog and Twilight Infection are BP120 STAB moves that, again thanks to Telescopic, are 100% accuracy, enabling Wriggle to after a boost begin wrecking the opposing team if they don't have a way to keep her in check.
EVs: 64 FoATK for hitting as hard as possible, to go with the Red Mark. After a use of Mad Rush Stance, even with 0 EVs you outspeed everything up to and including Green Mark FutoS, but outspeeding things before you've set up Mad Rush Stance is crucial. Notably, 58 EVs will let you outspeed 64 EV Green Mark SagumeE, and you want to be able to outspeed her and SagumeD to drop Bewitching Powder on them before they can hit you (SagumeP will outspeed you without a boost unless she's running absolutely no speed investment, in which case you can beat her out with 64 EV investment). Put the remaining EVs not invested in FoATK or Speed into HP for maximum bulk.

Notable counters: SagumeP, priority users (especially Steel type priority), sufficiently fast Good Belt users; do note that all of these can be shut down by Betwitching Pollen on the switch.

>>25640755
You don't get your team back, nor you can netplay, until after you've beaten the game.

So one way or another, they'd have to play story mode fully one more time.

>>25640816
Yeah, don't see what are your loses if that's the case. Besides, I'd much rather be able to read everything since I'm not into runes yat.

>tfw no english patch

>>25639760
Anon, you need to relax.

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>try to extract the .arc files so I can get the OST
>errors everywhere, the .arc files aren't arc files

WHAT

>>25641428
Someone knows for what hemo made these non-chibi portraits? i have a folder full of them but i don't know for what they were, they aren't on his pixiv.

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>>25641451
No clue. I JUST WANT MUH OST

>>25641530
I want the wicked hermit to punish me.

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Decided to put those posts from 2 threads ago saying why Pokemon < Puppets into a single image

Feel free to critique anything wrong

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>>25643011
It doesn't mention how cute everything is

>>25643011
When he says exp share can be turned off, I think he meant can't. And also forgot to skip a line.

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>>25643011
>>25643197

Actually, nevermind, I repeated that twice and misspellt a few things, probably did something wrong up when formatting. So sorry for that guys, I fucked up.

Should also add how playing online is harder whether you smogonfag or play with your 3ds and that there's no trading (since you can catch everything in a single game, but I'd love if we could donate max ivs things to others, getting the first one is rather annoying).

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>>25643376
It's okay, we all make misteaks.

Wish someone else would do a puppet analysis though.

Is there a way to change the game style to shift, or is it only on set?

>>25644407
it's only on set
you pussy

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Daily reminder that if you choose moon, you will be enemy of Junko.

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>>25645287
If Mawile is in Moon, Junko can go suck a dick.

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>>25645506
I hope Mawile isn't in EITHER.

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>>25645525
That's very rude.

>>25644407
Why is Shift even an option in the Pokemon games to begin with? It never made sense to me because it basically allows you to cheat every time the enemy dies.

Imagine what would happen if you were allowed to do that in netplay. The meta would be a wreck.

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>>25645525
DELETE THIS

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I want to marry Renko Usami!

>>25645412
I wonder if Sumireko plays Pokemon.

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New Hemo. Less tame.

>>25648606
>Sumireko once dreamt every night of being in the Pokemon world
>had the power fantasy of her life commanding a team of BST 670+ Ubers that destroyed anyone who dared challenge her
>one day starts dreaming about somewhere else in which she's a weakling in comparison to everyone else in it and they're all incredibly powerful while she...isn't
>starts trying to mess things up in this new world once she decides she doesn't like it as much hoping it'll go away and she can go back to dreaming about Pokemon instead
>keeps getting beaten up in her dreams
>dream world turns out to be real and the people in it go after her
>she has to come to grips with the fact that her messing around in that world was endangering it
>can't ever go back to dreaming about Pokemon
>stuck dreaming about Gensokyo instead and not rocking the proverbial boat, even if she's actually making friends there in contrast to real life

Poor Sumireko.

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>>25649331
Being Sumireko is suffering. I wish I could hug her.

>>25646839
Because easy mode

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>>25640814
Alright, I'll try one, gonna leave it kinda simple though.

Making an all Nether team, currently a rough draft without checking where to put EVs, marks or items since I only had this idea when bored and thinking about the type, but you can make basic guesses (is there an equivalent for all items in pokemon? I couldn't find rocky helmet), but suggestions welcome. (I'll change styles but not puppets)
Also, it's before the expansion



PSeiga- with curse return
Miasma
Love or Pain
Mysterious liquid
Glamour Pandemic

PYuyuko- with sinister spirit
Off season blossom
Ghost wave
Energy absorb
Flower of hell? I'm unsure what should the fourth move be, she seems to be made for subseeding, but that seems to be too unreliable for puppets.

DParsee- with metallurgy
Really unsure what to do with this one.
Poison trap (poison types don't remove this, but I worry about so many teams who can remove them effortlessly)
Twilight infection
Shock stamp
Barrier option

AKomachi- with grace of water
Will- O'-Wisp
St. Elmo's Fire
Field Barrier
Waterfall drop
Has call of the dead got different effects from destiny bound? The wiki's wording confused me.


DMurasa- with negative aura
Favorable big wave
Midnight Apparition
Impact Rebellion
Aqua cuter

DEiki- with unjustness
Continue
State of anatman
Ghost wave
Star flare

Again, unsure how a resttalker would be viable but that is my attempt at handling one.

I feel in general some of the sets wouldn't be things you could run in touhoumon, but there you have it.
Also tried to avoid the more popular picks for the type.

>>25649058
Does he like Seija?

>>25653606
Not a big fan of the DEiki set; it feels way too passive for this game. What else can she do?

>>25655568
Not much really, she has fairly bad stats for offense, her biggest thing going for her is that she has only a single weakness.
Could also try giving her one of the buffs in shadow power or moon's protection. Also has access to the game weakest suicide move (your current hp) and no recovery besides continue.
PEiki is better but not nether.

Do the NPC's get harder after Mayohiga? I just finished getting the Gap Map from Chen and all the NPC puppets are around level 30 while my puppets are in their 40's.

Was anything supposed to happen with Flandre running around when you first visit the SDM? I beat Remilia and everything but Flandre never showed up after running down the halls in the labyrinth.

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>>25657517
Nope.

That was fixed in the expansion though, you do end up fighting Flandre there.

Why is RikaP so slow and fragile

>>25647977
I thought Renko wasn't on the proverbial market though

>>25658944
Fuck you, name one reason that I wouldn't be able to marry Renko

>>25659009
she's already in a relationship with maribel

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Which Kokoro is better, Moody or Protean?

Kinda torn apart because while Moody is broken as fuck, Kokoro has a wide assortment of skills to abuse the nearly-as-broken Protean.

>>25659336
Moody

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>>25655538
We will know soon, i guess he does if he took the time to make a remix of her theme for touhoumon.

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>>25659009
Renko already is in love with Maribel, and there is no way you can win Renko's heart away from her.

>>25662470
Why does Renko have that hair bang or whatever with the bow in it?

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How easy is it to surprise people with Kogasa in this game

>>25664641
Everyone knows you can use any puppet in this game, so Kogasa isn't any less expected than any other puppet.

>>25664641
I think her most expected strategy is setting up with fairy dance. Try not using that.

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>>25664945
I have an idea:
Choice Specs KogasaS

Come in and reduce an attack stat with your ability, drop STAB Arclights or Cold Rains on your enemies with base 110 speed and base 110 SpATK, then when things get hot switch out and drop back in again later to repeat the process.

-1 252+ Atk Primal Groudon Precipice Blades vs. 0 HP / 0 Def KogasaS: 246-291 (81.7 - 96.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

64+ SpA Choice Specs KogasaS Arclight vs. 252 HP / 200 SpD Primal Groudon: 276-325 (68.3 - 80.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Are you surprised yet?

>>25665112
By the way, since there's sp and fo intimidade, which ones do you guys run?

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>>25665130
I would have both on my team, you can't predict into what you will run, unlike pokeman where you can be sure 80% of the people will run a primal groudon.

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>>25665130
FoATK intimidate. Just like in Pokemon, a big chunk of the top threats are physical attackers.

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>>25666598
Where is that image from?

>>25668148
http://exhentai.org/g/858989/ee6985f0df/
have fun

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Just solo'd the Elite 4 with Speed Rin, within the base game. Going down the list of Morale Booster users and after Speed Tojiko I'll try and find a moveset that works for Power Ran.

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>>25668745
I honestly don't know whether it would be harder to do it in the base game or the expansion. On one hand, the expansion's Makai 3 is drastically more terrifying (higher levels, more competently built teams, held items, better AI), but on the other hand you have the Dream Fragment and it's 2x boost to non-HP stats you can slap on your waifu, so it might be much easier.

>>25668901
Why do you always post Raiko pictures

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>>25668918
Because he is raikoanon.

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>>25669897
>A wicked hermit rearing a perfectly innocent young girl only to kill her and make her a personal puppet slave revived out of Taoist necromancy
>A hell god rearing a rather young and naive fairy only to be a lunatic fairy of massive destructive power that is capable of destroying the moon and killing several hundred thousand Lunarians while treating it as a mere game.

Fridge horror.

>>25670028
CP and Yoshika are pretty happy, so that's okay.

>>25670028
but they're cute so it's okay

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>>25670028
What is wrong with killing lunarian scum? They are space elves, fuck them.

Pokemon world or TPDP world

>>25670634
>Pokemon world
+Pokemon
+Technology level is drastically higher (teleporters, Poke Balls, etc.)
+easier to become the best trainer/attain Champion status if you go in knowing exactly what to train up (i.e. DRAGON AND STEEL TYPES, THE TYPES TO RULE OVER ALL OTHER TYPES)
+easy path of progression to follow with the Gym system
+can easily assemble a competent team of badass Pokemon (land shark jet dragon, punching steel anubis, fire Goku, etc.)
-good luck finding and catching legendaries
+if you somehow get one of the major legendaries, you will be nigh-unbeatable
-EV training
+you will be the only person outside of the Battle Frontier crazy enough to do EV training, so you will have a massive advantage over everyone else

>TPDP world
+Puppets
-Technology level is drastically behind modern times (no electricity/computers/guns/cars/etc.)
-Yukari will probably fuck around with you
-no badass puppets exist, only cute puppets
-drastically harder to establish yourself as a big player (in between puppet balance and how strong in non-puppet areas everyone else is)
-no clear path to where you should go next since there's no Gym system; closest thing to an E4 are in an alternate dimension that is incredibly hard to reach
+no limited availability legendaries
+you can assemble with incredible ease a competent team of cute puppets (i.e. all of them)
+reincarnation makes breeding look dumb in comparison
+EV training is a joke
-so you will eventually face people with perfect IV and EV-trained puppets

Did I miss anything that would make Pokemon not the obvious choice?

>>25670725
>Did I miss anything that would make Pokemon not the obvious choice?

+Technology is incredible
+Contests
-Many criminal organizations

>>25670753
Mentioned the first one of those

Also
+almost none of the criminal organizations are competent and will routinely be dismantled by young children

You're just making even more of a case for Pokemon though.

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>>25670725
>>25670753
Who gives a shit about technology when you have magic and supernatural shit going around? Duh.

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>>25670725
TPDP, cute girls everywhere and puppets keep me safe from youkai's shenanigans.

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>>25670634
TPDP world.

>>25670634
>Pokemon
Your waifu is likely not in it

>Puppets
Your waifu is likely in it and would reject you.

>>25671168
>implying
I don't know, most 2hus would appreciate the meal.

>>25671323
>Actually wants to be eaten by youkais
What is wrong with you? and we are talking about Touhoumon's gensokyo, where you are protected by puppets.

>>25671422
>implying some more
Where the hell did I say I want to be eaten by youkai? My waifu is human, thank you very much.

>>25671440
Time to put on my tinfoil hat
>your waifu is into cannibalism

>>25670795

a few days without toilet paper might change your mind

>>25671905
>he doesn't know how to use the shells

>>25670634
pokemon so i'm less likely to get devoured by a youkai

So we agree then

Pokemon > TPDP

Pokemon Sun or Pokemon Moon?

>>25673804
whichever one of them has heracross
if both or neither of them do, then sun

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>>25673804
Sun, obviously.

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>>25673804
Touhou Puppet Dance Preformance: Shard of Dreams

>>25670725
>Pokemon world
-no Raiko

>TPDP world
+Raiko

That was easy

>>25673583
I would combine both: the technology of pokeman and the girls from 2hu

>>25670725
>implying that Yukari wouldn't fuck around with you even if you picked Pokemon

One day, you will wake up and be stuck in the TPDP world instead of the Pokemon world.

And you will never be able to leave.

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Why is there so much 2hu fanart anyways

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>>25675311
Because canon art is...well...pic related and fans feel the urge to fix it, plus, ZUN is very chill with fans doing fanstuff.

>>25675311
It's popular, but not TOO popular.

I wish there were a convenient way to filter puppets based on specific attributes.

>>25675692
I wish the puppetdex would show typings.

>>25675426
Not even pokeman has that.

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>>25675360
I think ZUN's art is cute as hell.

>>25675311
So why does Renko have that little white bow in her hair and why is it so adorable

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>>25676241
Why do you keep asking

>>25676323
Because no one answers

Also hnnng

>tfw no english patch

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So the number of puppets with over 10% usage rose to 4 this week, and the #1 slot was taken by DDoremy as presumably the big counter to physical threats like AyaP or SakuyaP.

I'm honestly surprised the metagame hasn't settled in yet, usage seems to shift quite a bit every single week for a lot of things (EHina is only #6 in the charts this week for reference!)

>>25678508
>4 puppets with 10%
Is time to panic.

>>25678562
OU soon.

>>25678562
BAN SHINMYOUMARU

>>25678562
Unless those 4 keep rotating.

>>25678508
Where do I look at the usage list?

>>25678581
Bans are banned

>>25678644
http://gensou-suwako.com/correct/data_append/URViewer/URrank.php

>>25680597
>tfw #200 is still on 1% of teams

Puppets please

So since we're approaching a new thread soon, what should be the OP?

I vote Renko being bullied

>>25680597
Thanks.

>>25680597
The heck is up with the names

Why is 菫子 written as すみれこ

>>25682728
It's in the simplistic version of Japanese.

>>25682728
because kanji can be a pain in the ass to read?

Come on, at least let this thread hit bump limit first.

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I'd post a picture of Raiko falling asleep to represent hitting the bump limit, but I can't find any pictures of that.

So instead have a picture of Raiko having fun with a drum.

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Obviously we start the new thread as "Spring Edition"

>>25685337
So a giant metal spring then for the picture?

>>25685544
*ba-dum-tsss*

>>25685337
Bully. Renko.

I want to see her crying in the OP image with her hair shaved or her face a bruised and bloody mess. I want her to pay the price for being so weak.

>>25685724
renko does not deserve to be bullied, she is cute and that is what matters

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>>25685724
I think if you seriously want to see her crying and hurt just because she's "weak", that you're actually a weakling who wants to see her bullied because she's still stronger than you.

If anything, she would be the one bullying you, except for the fact that she doesn't want to bully people.

>>25685899
Fuck you, I can lift 20 pounds!

>>25685984
>less than 10 kilograms
lol

>>25685984
Renko being cute confirmed for the OP image?

>>25685337
No, next thread should be "It's spring edition" with a Lily picture.

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>>25685337
>>25686804
I agree with this idea. I propose this picture.

>>25686864
That picture is too lewd.

Make it pure and sweet like Lily White

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>>25686996
>as pure as Lily White
OK, got it.

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>>25687062
Stop it

Don't sexualize her

Just post her in her normal clothes

After all, SPRING

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>>25687125
Use this one.

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>>25687158
IT"S SPRING!

>>25687158
What does the sign say

>>25687179
Selling spring.

100 yen per person.

You already know it, but it's a double entendre
Use the one I posted under it.