Will there ever be a good Star Trek game? Even Star Wars got

>>14072
Why is Picard front and center?
Shouldn't it be Kirk?

>>14073
It should be Kirk alone.
Kirk
<<<power gap>>>
Not Kirk

>>14072

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKqA8fkkfRY

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What's your favorite SF episode, /v/?

Play the TNG game on SNES. There ya go.

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Damnit OP that's not how you start a ST thread

>>14076

The one where Neelix guns down the children with his disruptor rifle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFtmcX5IvcM

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>>14078
Dumb Cardies

>>14072
Star Wars had loads of good games because Lucas bet big on vidya with Lucasarts. I don't think CBS/Paramount/Viacom/whoever the fuck owned Trek at any given time ever made any big pushes into development/publishing like Lucasarts.

But there are a couple pretty good Star Trek games. Elite Force was good for its time, Starfleet Command 2 is fun, Birth of the Federation is great even if it's mostly a MoO2 clone...

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Friendly reminder that Dukat did nothing wrong.

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When will there be a good BSG game?

>>14081
Elite Force was fucking awesome

Multiplayer community sucked though

Why was Janeway promoted to admiral instead of executed for her war crimes?

>>14085
Because Starfleet saw her as the captain who got her crew home from across the galaxy, dealt a serious blow to the borg and brought back tons of knowledge and technology.

She wrote the reports so they only know what she told them.

>>14085
Warcrimes?

Judgement Rites and 25th Anniversary are the shit

>>14073
The TNG era (TNG, DS9, VOY) is the bulk of Star Trek totaling in 21 seasons of television and 4 movies.
The TOS era is only 3 seasons and 6 movies which take place later. (Abramsverse doesn't count)
Also, TNG was the peak of Star Trek's mainstream popularity. No one watched TOS when it was actually airing, only later in syndication.

>>14085
Surviving 7 years in an unknown part of space while killing half the Borg is a pretty big feat

>>14072
>25th Anniversary
>Judgement Rites
>Elite Force
>Starfleet Command
>not good

OP, just because there hasn't been a good one recently doesn't mean there never has been one.

>>14087
Breaking the prime directive, aiding the borg faction, helping the borg species to commit genocide, giving the holodeck tech to a race after knowing that it can create sentient lifeforms basically condemning them to be slaves, breaking the temporal prime directive in an attempt to destroy all the borg forever

Is Nog /our guy/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtxEIF6y0JU

>>14087

Remember when Janeway said they wouldn't trade tech, specifically replicators and weapons? She goes back on that in Scorpion, and trades the Borg (whom the Federation is at war with) a weapon that she knows the Borg will use to try to assimilate (genocide) species 8472 in return for a shortcut through their territory, rather than take the long way around.

What were Picard and the E doing during the Dominion War?

I was excited for the new series when I saw who was cast as the captain but then had my hype sucked away when they said the protagonist is his strong independent black woman #1. Star Trek was never about a protagonist, it was about the crew as a whole.

>>14096
Eh, we had a white man, a bald French man who doesn't sound French, a black baddest motherfucker in space man, a white woman, and another white man. I'm going to say Jason Issac is going to bite the dust.

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>>14083
Never

>>14083
There is a good BSG board game.

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>>14095
Diplomatic stuff. I'm pretty sure Insurrection takes place during the Dominion War.

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>>14083
I just want a *good* Firefly game

>>14085
Remember when Janeway murdered Tuvix who did nothing wrong and was begging for her life just in order to get her two officers back?

>>14082
>writers made him go full retard in seasons 6 and 7 because they were butthurt that the audience liked him and didn't think he was a nazi

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>>14072
Star Trek: Online
awaits you

>>14085
>demonstrated incredible leadership by keeping her crew sane during seven years of isolation
>successfully navigated an uncharted quadrant and returned home
>never discarded Starfleet principles like Captain Ransom did
>killed Borg queen, blew up their headquarters, and started a civil war within the remaining drones effectively nullifying them as a threat

That deserves decoration and promotion to admiral a lot more than most of the faggot admirals we meet in the series, who all have some evil scheme they're doing in the background.

>>14102
Remember when Janeway had to run around the ship fighting giant floating viruses?

>>14096
>Star Trek was never about a protagonist, it was about the crew as a whole.

That went out the window with the Abrams movies. Now it's Star Trek is all about the Kirk/Spock bromance and the rest of the crew are just highly-paid props.

>>14106
>demonstrated incredible leadership by keeping her crew sane during seven years of isolation
>successfully navigated an uncharted quadrant and returned home
>by neglecting most of the crew suggestions and doing stops to make the travel 'fun' when they could just fly straight back to known space, risking her whole crew in the process

>never discarded Starfleet principles like Captain Ransom did
>by violating the prime directe countlessly, fucking up with the time line, committing genocide and giving a race the means to create slave sentient people

>>14100
Dominion War is mentioned in the film, so it's either during it in the later stages or after it.

It just doesn't lend itself to games as well as star wars does, with magic space samurai and naz- I mean the empire.

You know, voyager gets shit on a lot, but as a kid I really liked the show.
And TNG, which I also see get shit on lately even though it was super popular back in the day.

>>14107
kek, that was from this episode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x1oQJiajB4

>>14085
Starfleet had a corrupt admiral position open and she was the perfect fit.

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>>14105
THIS

>>14110
It's during because there's a DS9 episode where they talk about how the plastic surgery aliens from Insurrection are collaborating with the Dominion (presumably after Pivard blew their shit up).

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>>14114
What's the ratio of corrupt to not corrupt admirals?

>>14085

Because it was better to make her admiral, trapped at a desk forever instead of fucking up the galaxy.

>>14117

100% Corrupt. Even Kirk becomes a bungling dipshit as an Admiral.

>>14118
This actually makes sense

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>>14083
There was that BSG game on the PS2
Then there was Diaspora for the PC, but that's a mod

Honestly, there's a criminal lack of Battlestar Galactica games. There's so much potential - RTS, FPS and so on.

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>>14119
Admiral Cunt was corrupt too?

Why weren't any of the Federation Enterprises carriers like their US Navy ancestors?

>>14105

Its shit, though.

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>>14123
No carriers in space.

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>>14122

Pic related.

>>14123

The Federation didn't have any carriers. In fact there is a pretty big lack of carriers over all in the Star Trek universe. I mean, there are some, but the show has always been about ship vs ship and small scale stuff compared to real naval battles.

>>14123

There was, but only during war and gene hates war.

>>14073
Picard was also the closet thing to a "real" naval captain Star Trek has ever approached in a character. He was intelligent, confident, an admirer of the fine arts, of history and of literature. He had diplomatic skills. He maintained a proper distance from the crew at all times and wasn't really anyone's "friend" but instead was their leader.

No other captain I believe played this part as well as Stewart did.

>>14129
"drones"

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>>14113
ha, always liked Q, some epic moments on every one of the great ST series

too bad the actor is a bum nowadays

>>14123
From what is shown, there are smaller fighter-esque ships but they tend to get obliterated by the weapons of large capital ships because things like phasers don't seem to miss very often.

>>14072
Its had 5 good ones.

ST Armada 1&2
ST Elite Force 1&2
Star Trek online
ST Bridge Commander
And the classic Starfleet Command

Those are my top trek titles

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>>14122
>>14126
Admiral Bitchayev is pure

>>14127

lol look at this horses anus.

>>14072
I wanna play warmonger Janeway

>>14137
Kathryn "Commit warcrimes and get away" Janeway

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>>14080
>tfw the Cardassians are a ruined people

>>14133

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM2wy5OKW8s

Maybe if you're retarded...

>>14133
Couldn't phasers potentially be set to wider array and sacrifice penetration for coverage? That's what bothered me in the new film. I feel like the ship would have some kind of flak system to deal with that swarm.

Beastie boys was still fun though.

>>14141

They do, there are G-phasers and AMS, phaser turrets also help.

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>>14082
>Constantly touts Cardassian superiority despite the fact that much of their technology is inferior to their rivals. Galor class ships are deployed in groups to compensate for their shit protection and firepower, for example.
>Loses control over a bunch of religious farmers 100 years behind them development-wise and has t abandon the planet
>constantly outmaneuvered by the Federation and even the fucking Klingons
>sold his people into slavery to the Dominion, still fucks things up for them
>prefers dirty bajoran vermin instead of pure and divine cardassian beauties.

Fuck you, Dukat.

>>14085
But how could she have commited war crimes if there was never a war?

>>14144

The Federation is in a state of war against the Borg.

>>14085
I know everyone becomes Admirals cause that's how it goes, but Janeway as an Admiral instead of a Captain? Sisko, I could see. Not really Janeway.

Remember when Janeway was a consistently written character?
Neither do I

>>14072
I enjoyed the Elite Force games

>>14147
Remember when Voyager was good?
Neither do I

>>14147
To be fair, at least she broke the Prime Directive consistently

>>14080
>Stop shooting at us!!!

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characters who did nothing wrong: Dukat, Jellico, Pressman, Netchayev, that old bitch who wanted to kill the crystalline entity, Lal, Professor Moriarty, the Pakled, those weird aliens that fed on humans from 1880s San Fransisco.

>>14149
kind of worth it for the doctor

>>14152
>Pakled and Branch Devidians on that list

kek

>>14152
Why was he suck a dick? Aside for typecasting.

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>>14152
Truly, the finest depiction of Moriarty

>>14130

I think Sisko did it okay.

He got kinda chummy with his crew but if they ever fucked up boy did he let them have it.

QUICK /v/ WHO WOULD YOU RATHER GET DRESSED DOWN BY?

A DISAPPOINTED PICARD:
https://youtu.be/H7ylbiCuFyw

OR AN ANGRY SISKO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjvYiSDJujA

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>>14155
He was closer to a real life ship captain than Picard was. You could tell he was a seasoned, grizzled Cardassian fighter like Obrien's captain was in "The Wounded".

Forgot to mention him in my list btw.

>>14158
I'd like to see some sort of thing on the Federation-Cardassian War.

>>14149
I do.
>>14152
>that old bitch who wanted to kill the crystalline entity
Good bait. She was just a vengeful bitch.
>Pakled
kek. Next you're going to say that the Think Tank did nothing wrong.

>>14150
Her crew did, which apparently empowers the captain to then do whateverthefuck they want to bring things back in line. Including further breaking the prime directive.

>>14152
Q

>>14159
Same, Cardassians were a great antithesis to the Federation.

>>14091
>>14088

THIS. Judgement Rites and 25th Anniversary are fucking amazing.

Go and play them. Right now.

>>14157
>5:55 for Sisko
Bullshit, that video should be at least 15 minutes

>>14161
Oh yeah
You break the Prime Directive, you fix it by breaking it even more
Everyone knows that

>>14105
>Star Trek: Online
>Install the client
>Client is a massive piece of shit that doesn't even download the game

I wish TNG got more into the hypocritical nature of the federation but it took 5 seasons for Gene to die.

>>14157

Avery Brooks' acting is too hammy to take seriously.

>>14129
Now show the one where the Galaxy class ship fights the "drones" of the Jem'hadar.

>>14168
That would never happen because the writers are shitty hippies like that dead faggot. Guess that's why Dukat was so well loved.

>>>/tv/

>>14169

It works really good sometimes, when he gets another actor to ham it up with him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StF9jrhw-pU

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>>14157

I'd rather have Picard, because I'd be on a safe diplomatic ship with families instead of on the edge of a dmz with three different factions ready to invade each other while on board a war station under the command of Captain, I beat my crew members like I beat my Hoe, Sisko.

>>14082
>Friendly reminder that Dukat did nothing wrong.
Until he started fucking Kai Winn and that whole shitty plot.

>>14072

Mass Effect is pretty much Star Trek TNG without the small budget for alien design.

>>14174
Oh yeah, I'd totally want to be "safe" on the ship with a population of over 1000 that was taken over by a crew of five Ferengi.

>>14085
>Why was Janeway promoted to admiral instead of executed for her war crimes?
Janeway was the best villain in the series: intentionally strands her crew in the Delta Quadrant just so she can fuck with them.

>>14169
>>14173
Kirk was plenty hammy and you don't people thinking of it in the negative.

>>14157

Sisko would probably put me on permanent latrine duty after smirking at his ridiculous speaking cadence every time he scolded me.

>>14177
>implying the space jews weren't being aided by traitors
If you had mentioned the fact that their exploration usually causes said population to be in danger, I'd agree with you.
>>14178
Well, Seven did discover that it was all a Starfleet plot.

>>14179

Are you drunk? William Shatner's acting is literally a running joke to this day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S43hytfBMAk

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>>14174
>>14177
remember when Data locked everybody out of the bridge and hijacked the Enterprise to take him to Noonian Soong's lab?

remember when an ancient mayan space temple beamed on jungles and pyramids onto the enterprise and fucked with the life support system and the only way to stop it was to put on dollar store party masks and act out a play?

SHAKA, WHEN THE WALLS FELL

>>14182
Being made fun of on Family Guy isn't a big achievement

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>There are still backwards thinking bootlickers that insist on using phasers when the TR-116 exists.

>>14183
Remember when the Holodeck, a technology that wasn't new by any stretch but everyone acted as if it was, malfunctioned AGAIN?

>>14174
>serve under Picard
>devolve into a primitive animal due to an airborne virus while the captain and his robot butt buddy are out chasing a stray torpedo

>>14186
>implying using blades isn't the best strategy

>>14119
Kirk just wanted to be a space captain.
Why did he get forced into Admiral-isms at the same age as Picard?
Fuck Picard and his tea.

>>14187
why was Data considered a big deal when the ship computer became a sentient being on multiple occasions and was able to outsmart Data using holodeck creations and could even create holodecks within holodecks to trick the crew?

>>14185

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52o1d7XPni0

>>14182
I didn't mean haha so bad. I mean "Kirks hamminess has its own charm". Not "oh god he's hamming it up please shoot him".

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>>14101
Firefly is just a transparent ripoff of the much superior Outlaw Star.

>>14183
Remember when the captain decided to drop the shields as a show of faith AGAIN and we got shot the fuck up?

>>14174
Not too mention, id rather follow the Captain who is so calm and logical that a fucking Vulcan of all Vulcans thought he was good enough to mind meld with.

You hang out with "Im fucking Space Jesus" Sisko, and you can never know what the fuck him or those religious nut bajorans will do.

>>14188
THEY'VE DE-EVOLVED.

>Worf turns into a big bug even though it said a few episodes earlier that Klingons/Romulans/Vulcans/Humans/Cardassians all shared a common progenitor humanoid species to explain why everyone was just a guy in makeup.

>>14191

Why was Data's goal of gaining emotions and understanding what it means to be human such a long and difficult road when Voyager showed us you can just whip up some subroutines in a few seconds to give an AI emotions or new personality traits?

>>14196
>not following a bald tier captain
>>14197
Wasn't it only Humans/Klingons/Romulans?

>>14103

this

fuck star trek, i want a BSG game. the free space mod was good but i want fraking more.

>>14199
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Ancient_humanoid

>"At least Earth, Indri VIII, Loren III, Ruah IV, and Vilmor II were directly seeded by the ancient race. Other species that likely originated from seeded primordial seas included Klingons, Romulans/Vulcans, and Cardassians. Some of the fragments of DNA also contained parts of a computer program designed to display a holographic message from an ancient humanoid explaining her race and their actions. It was hoped that their descendant species would come together in the spirit of cooperation in order to assemble the program. "

>>14107
Remember when Janeway and Tom Paris turned into salamanders and had babies on a swamp planet? I wonder if that's anybody's fetish?

>your face when they pretty much ruined dukat's character

They fucked up in my opinion. Those last few story arcs with Dukat were fucking stupid.

Also, I was wondering for all you oldfags who watched Deep Space Nine when it was actually new, did everyone hate Kai Winn back then?

She is fucking dreadful any time she is on camera.

>>14201
Get out.

>>14197
common ancestor applies to the animals too and is how they explained why the crew was diverse in its response.
Remember there is larger genetic variance between individuals rather than whole groups, so some folks had more of ancient dna in it than others.

Also, how come now one gave "I just invented a new virus that made me an even whinier cunt" Crusher for starting the whole mess in the first place.
I miss Polaski on the ship.

>>14206
>Also, how come now one gave "I just invented a new virus that made me an even whinier cunt" Crusher for starting the whole mess in the first place.


I thought the episode was because Barclay had a cold/virus and Beverly injected him with something that caused everyone to devolve.

>>14113
>tfw you will never play a game where you are Q and the objective is to just fuck with the Enterprise crew through the whole game
Feels bad.

>>14206
Polaski was shit and a bitch. I'd rather have Beverly " I fell in love with a man I've known for only 13 days and became a woman" Crusher any day.

>>14204
No, she was Smarmy as fuck but Winn was never really a cunt until later.
No i fucking HATED Kira when the series first aired. To the point that even Winn being a bitch episodes i took comfort in when it gave Kira a bad time.

Kira and her "Cardassians are fucking awful, oh wait yeah i bombed and killed cardassian woman/children and civilians for years as a terrorist but lol that doesnt apply to me and i have no guilt" deserved to be shot.

>>14208
Devs would just half-ass that shit now. Don't want.

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>>14174
>Be on Picard's ship
>Dear diary, Stardate 93871.9
>Weasly is doing one of his "school experiments" again. This time it only wiped out 10 crew members and all is forgiven.
>Diary stardate 93872
>Today Weasly did another one of his school experiments, this time he created a new whole race of airborne virus fartclouds, so far half of the crew has been infected and died a horrible death. In the end DATA managed to find a Class J planet this new lifeforms can happily live in. Oh and Weasly also got promoted after this incident because of his brilliance.

Reminder that Weasly did nothing wrong.

STO is fun and free.

>>14210
Yea but Kira was cute.

I had a massive hardon for her when DS9 aired.

>>14210
It just hit me that DS9 would never have made it in today's world. One of the main characters was literally a terrorist.

>>14210
Agreed. She was easily the worst character in the series, and that's saying something as they loved to have those kids often.

>>14210

I hated Kira at first too, I only got to the "shes tolerable now" stage when I finished it.

Any time Kai Winn was on screen, or just that lady in general, I wanted to kill her.

She was awful to look at and listen to. Not only is that religious jargonriddle nonsense the Bajorans speak a complete bore to have to endure, every word out of that womans mouth also had the holier than thou bullshit added on.

Winn was fucking awful throughout the whole thing.

>>14210
>>14215
Those episodes in TNG/DS9 that deal with terrorism/refugees are headscratchers nowadays.

Wasn't Ensign Ro supposed to be Kira in DS9 but she declined the role? I always loved her episodes in TNG.

Why did Wesley become a wizard

>>14204

DS9 was only good in regards to the arcs revolving around the non cardassian/bejor characters like cisco and his reconciling his past, chief obrian, dr hashir, quark, and the chick with the worm, warf etc etc

when they go into those protracted war/good vs evil arcs it just gets stupid

>>14191
AI by itself isn't a big deal. AI from a computer the size of the positronic brain in data's head is.

The computer might have been able to make holographic avatars, but data was a self contained being that could go where it wanted.

>>14147
>Remember when Janeway was a consistently written character?
Janeway was always at her most sane when there was a guest writer. The regular writers made her fucking a fucking schizo.

>>14218

Ro was awful how did you like her?

>>14217
>Not only is that religious jargonriddle nonsense the Bajorans speak a complete bore to have to endure
Fuck off, heathen.
>>14219
Didn't he never get laid? Funny considering he probably could have just created an energy lady and fucked her.

>>14197
They didn't all turn into the same common ancestor, though. Not every human turned into a spider like barclay, for example. Riker turned into a caveman.

>>14220

Did you mess up all of those names on purpose?

>>14222
Gotta give Mulgrew mad props for being able to act it for all those seasons.
I believe she said in an interview once that she intentionally played Janeway as bipolar because of how the writers flopped her character around.

>>14223
I got a thing for bitchy women. That's probably why I liked Kira too..

>>14224
I meant the magic powers he got, but I doubt he got laid too

>>14157
Sisko was great until he went full on black space Jesus.

>tfw Sisco hates Vics bar because racism

>>14072
>Even Star Wars got a couple of good ones despite all the shovelware made for it.
most star wars games were great games though.

>>14194

My melanin enriched brother.

>my face when wesley crusher is one of the main baddies in Dark Matter and any time hes on screen hes the worst thing ever

>>14229
I meant that too. He was a literal wizard in both ways. Barcley at leas fucked holowomen.

>>14215
>DS9 would never have made it in today's world

Neither would TNG. A show that optimistic and lighthearted would crash and burn within five episodes in today's cynical nihilistic society. Modern audiences want dark and depressing shit like Game of Thrones and Sons of Anarchy.

>>14072
A game where you have to avoid trying to kill people sounds boring as fuck. Unless it was a dialogue-heavy point and click adventure game or a telltale game.

>>14157
I dunno, I think it makes me shit my pants more when someone who is generally mild mannered is visibly very upset with me than when someone who always yells at people with the same tone if they fuck up is yelling at me.

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>mf whenever wesley saves the day
And he always does it in the stupidest ways

>>14226

would it matter?

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>>14181
>Seven
Hnnnnnnnnnng!
Seven and the Doctor were the only reasons Voyager was watchable.

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Reminder STO has one of the best character creators in a RPG/MMO to date and is pretty fun if you play it as a single player game.

>>14239
but he was the one causing most of the problems in the first place.

>>14236
Even TNG got really lucky when it came out, a lot of the people who worked on it didn't think it would last as long as it did and by the time it got through it's mediocre first two seasons the show really came into it's own.

3/4/5/6 are great television and even 7 has a few gems despite turds like Sub Rosa.

>>14217
I would argue that. Winn was awful and smarmy yeah. But you actually see her character grow/change and you even understand her.
Meanwhile the Kira episodes that try to put light on her past...always fall short and just leave off at "lol, cardasssians were bad so its fine".

Winn had real growth(until the very end when those last story arcs of Space Jesus v Space Devil ruined most everyone) and you feel sorry for her. She shuts down the cunt Kira as she explains how what she did was HARDER than her "lol kill carddie civs". She suffered through the occupation AND tried to keep her peoples religious spirit alive.

Her being a major cunt for most of the series is understandable. She fought for years to keep her people alive, and their spiritual legacy going....and then a fucking human star fleet asshole out of nowhere shows up, is acclaimed Jesus and now he is there to save them all. She went from Kai, helping sheparding her people to Kai i take my orders from Star Fleet while we arent even in the federation because fucking Space Jesus. Her actions have at least a cause behind them.

NOW having said all that, i fucking LOATHED every bit of the bajoran religion shit and how it ran counter to ever Trek before it. ESPECIALLY after showing them to be simply other dimensionally beings who can be hurt, etc.

>>14241
>Seven and the Doctor were the only reasons Voyager was watchable.
bait. Watching Neelix piss off Tuvak was pretty fun considering he killed holoneelix in one episode.

>>14239
the episode where he gets BTFO at the academy with his friends for doing the dangerous stunt that got a squadmate killed was great.

They should've written him off to go with the Traveler a long time before it actually happened though.

>>14197
No, it's Barclay who turns into a bug, a spider to be exact, Worf turns into a horned up beastman who bites Troi's face to mark her as his mate.

>>14241
>her real life husband used to pimp her out in swinger clubs
>she was absolutely miserable during most of the series
There's some knowledge you wish you never knew

>>14074
Correct.

>>14241
>>14249
just think, her divorce being publicized got a small time community organizer by the name of Barack Obama to beat her husband's election to senate.

>>14251
whoa

>>14249
>tfw you never have and never will creampie her while she wears her Seven uniform

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>Enterprise is the only show that still exists in the new Trek movies

how does that make you feel?

>>14252
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ryan_(politician)

His 2004 campaign for the Senate, against Barack Obama, received widespread media attention for the disclosure of sealed custody documents stemming from his divorce from actress Jeri Ryan. The unsealing of those documents, detailing allegations that Ryan had pressured his wife to perform sexual acts in public, led to Ryan's withdrawal from the campaign.[2]

you can thank 7 of 9 for America's first black president.

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This was my favorite Star Trek series as a kid.

>the defiant gets destroyed
>its replaced almost immediately without a cloak with a shitty name
>"oh you can rename it if you want"

What was even the point then? God that was so dumb.

>>14157
To be honest, a disappointed Picard would probably sting a hell of a lot more. It was a lot more personal.

>>14242
>Vidya Trek
I recall that being a huge disappointment.

Anyone remember the name of that Star Trek ripoff set underwater?

>>14228

then you must be head over heels for keiko

>>14204
>did everyone hate Kai Winn back then?
I hated all the Bajorans, though Kira did have some episodes in which I found her sympathetic. DS9 for me was all about Chief O'Brien and Garak.

>>14254

I haven't watched ENT yet but I hate those shitty astronaut jumpsuits.

That looks awful. Is that their normal uniforms?

>>14254

It's a dumb genre show with nothing to say. Some people care about it a whole lot, and even though the hard core fans want a movie, it'll never happen after the shitshow that was Serenity.

The final episode was a bizarre window into a future time that makes no sense. The mirrior universe episodes were weird in a campy way that was unpleasant.

>>14254
Bad bait or your intentionally dumb?

The new movies are established as cannon split from the Romulus Supernova. This is after all the main series. The entire universe is built upon the fact that its split from the main continuity. All the movies and series still happened and that universe is still ongoing free to use(if they chose).

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>>14257
"The defiant?"
"Adrift, but salvageable"

wasn't the defiant supposed to be this super top secret ship to fight the borg and worf wanted to fucking ram it into the borg cube in First Contact?

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>>14255
Of course you know who was actually responsible for unsealing those documents and picking Obama for that specific time.

Jack Ryan was just the perfect fall guy because his wife was known well enough

>>14263
Yyyyyyyyeup

>>14212

>Dear diary, Stardate 93880.4
>A new officer is on board the enterprise and his name is Nog.
>Wesly told him he had big ears and found himself on the floor for fifteen minutes.
>When he was done he explained he had fought the jem'hadar and wasn't going to take his shit.
>Wesly winced as a cigar was put out on his face.

>>14266
well can you imagine if the Borg got ahold of cloaking devices?

actually why the hell haven't they by now

>>14175

That is easily the worst side story of DS9...

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>>14206
>I miss Polaski on the ship.
God, I loved her, especially how bitchy she'd get with Data, she was very much a feminine echo of Doctor McCoy.

>>14260
SeaQuest?
Damn, that series had an ultra shitty GameBoy game....

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>>14254
>Archer beginning to look like a grizzled old bastard
>Everyone else basically looks the same

>>14270
They literally don't need cloaking devices.

>>14266

Plinkett go AWAY.

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>>14261

>that episode where keiko was a loli

>>14262
Garak was the only reason for that show to continue. Id watch an entire series about a smarmy ex super spy who is sarcastic as fuck and his escapades in normal life.

Or wait...nevermind we have Archer. Thanks Garak.

>>14273
Yep that's the one.

I just want more Space games. I was hoping the Sc-fi COD would lead to more space games like it did with modern military shooters

>>14275
Why not? It multiplies the effectiveness of any ship. A borg probe is all of a sudden that much more dangerous and also better for probing

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>>14261
>>14277
>MILES! YOU'RE STILL MY HUSBAND!

>>14072
Man Picard's head is shiny as fuck.

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http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/168780

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sup

>>14103
This upset me so much. The writing softened him up a little over time making his character grow into what was in many ways an unpleasant guy who often had opposing ideals to Sisko and his crew but with personality quirks that made him seem like a decent guy overall. Basically someone who considers you a rival and laughs at your misfortune but doesn't like owing you any debts and always pays them. A guy you love to hate.

Then suddenly he became full on insane literal embodiment of evil just so the writers could go "gotcha! ;)".

The Kai alone should have been final boss. She was the perfect villain. Every one of her words dripped with venom, it was impossible not to hate her.

>>14272

so much better than that slutty redhead geriatric chaser

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>>14224
>Didn't he never get laid?
>implying he wasn't regularly molested by the Traveler

>>14281

Because they can drop your shields by force, increase resistance against your weapons after each attack, repair their hull in real time, tractor beam your ship into pieces and the only reason they're not conquering shit any more is because they fight like brain dead WoW instances.

>>14285
>starting your elite STF
>this ugly fucker warps in
On a scale of 1 to 10 how worried are you?

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If Riker-Q was so powerful why couldnt he accurately predict what Wesley would look like in 10 years?

>>14281
Shit writing. Same reason why the Federation isn't dead considering it's been in numerous wars since it's creation and was getting tagteamed by two of the biggest powers in their quadrant.

>>14284
>delete Wesley's PADD so you can download porn
worth it

>>14227
>Gotta give Mulgrew
Yeah, I love her as an actress, she did great with what she was given.

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http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/238585

Sorry about the double post, I accidentally clicked post

>>14291

He didn't want to inflect Wil Wheaton's appearance on adult Wesley.

>>14289
Clearly been proven time and again that they're not completely invincible. Certainly not their smaller ships

>>14122
Childhood is hating Nechayev.
Adulthood is figuring out why she acted like she did.

>>14245
>She shuts down the cunt Kira

>"Those of you who were in the Resistance, you're all the same. You think you're the only ones who fought the Cardassians, that you saved Bajor single-handedly. Perhaps you forget, Major, the Cardassians arrested any Bajoran found to be teaching the word of the Prophets. I was in a Cardassian prison camp for five years, and I can remember each and every beating I suffered. And while you had your weapons to protect you, all I had was my faith... and my courage."

Great scene.

>>14239
Wesley was basically a Rodenberry self-insert Mary Sue.

>>14286
This. Ever appearance had him as the rival and he could have easily been the one to help them destroy the Dominion. Shame he turned into a demon.>>14288
He was a wizard by then.

>>14186
I have the top-of-the-line TR-116A in Star Trek online, and it is invaluable. Fuck those boss shields and just dish out pure health damage.

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>>14299
Episode?

>>14291
Who says it was supposed to be a real projection through time.
Its more like, the individuals hopes/desires. Hence Wesley the fucking nerd grows up to this big guy who looks a lot like his dad when Q helps him.
Whereas in real life, he just grows up to be someone with a slighter deeper voice and some facial hair.
Ouch.

>>14269
This guy gets it.

Does anyone else thing Jadzia was fucking boring as hell?

Her character and her species was so boring to me.

>>14251
>just think, her divorce being publicized got a small time community organizer by the name of Barack Obama to beat her husband's election to senate.
As much as I hate Obama (he was just GW Bush with a mulatto palette swap), McCain or Clinton would have been much, much worse.

>>14294
Too bad as a person she's scum.

>>14157
AND THEN
THEY WILL KNOW
THAT IT IS
A FRAAAAUD

>>14198
Nobody knew how the fuck Data's brain worked.

>>14307
He was definitely picked for the role years in advance. I agree he was better than the alternatives but he was still the biggest "yes man" the Feds have ever had.

>>14304
The show also got Patrick Stewart's aged appearance completely wrong, too

>>14256
It was pretty corny though, especially in the first season.

>that episode which ends on a fart joke

>>14299
>>14303

It doesn't matter because they ruined any promise of her saying that very quickly right after in that last season.

For every one slightly relevant or impressive bit of dialogue the writers gave that woman, she had ten overly holier than thou and bitchy bits of dialogue to compensate.

Winn was awful.

>>14311
>>14307
Come on now, let's not turn this into /pol/ Trek

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>>14256
>SFDebris is doing Beast Wars weekly now

>>14315
Then ignore them, faggot.

>>14311
>>14251

Fuck off with real life politics in the thread goddamn faggots.

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Are there any games that let me play as a troubled, alcoholic transporter chief/chief engineer who always suffers?

>>14306
The species gets a lot cooler in side episodes.
Like when you find out that they have had murderers from past lives, and sinces its abhorent to kill the parasite(im sorry, symbiote) they just sorta mind wiped the next host/symbiote to not remember that they were a fucking full on serial killer before.

Or that they have been lying to their entire culture for millenia. They are not actually limited to very rare tested/specific individuals. They are in fact compatible with any member of the host species.
The fucking symbiotes have literally been illuminati style running their lives and telling them its for the best. Some fucked up shit.

>>14305
>Implying the whiny cunt who is Nog would do anything but cry about how he lost his leg
>Implying Quark isnt the only worthwhile member of the family alongside his mother

Cmon son, Nog is worse than wesley in every way. Because his stupid shitty antics end up worse and hes not actually bright enough to get out of anything on his own.

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>>14319
>tfw they always had his arm/elbow getting fucked up

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>>14320
>Cmon son, Nog is worse than wesley in every way. Because his stupid shitty antics end up worse and hes not actually bright enough to get out of anything on his own.

Nig and Nog segments were comfy.

>>14301
It would have been much better writing based on seasons 1-5 if Dukat made some sort of an alliance with Kai Winn as a military leader in order to fuck over Sisko and try to get influence over Bajor, Winn turned out to be the demon thing and fucked over Dukat, Dukat then having to decide between helping Sisko or letting Winn get her way and deciding to side with Sisko because even though he hates Sisko he hates being played even more. It would have been the natural conclusion to his story ark but no, instead we get sudden insanity.

>>14320
>feminist dream Moogie being worthwhile
Good kek. Only Quark was good, but at least Rom was smart enough to tell Sisko to fuck off so he wouldn't become like his dad.

>>14323
This does sound much better. Wasn't it Damar who ended up being based and fucking over the Dominion?

>>14320

Nah trill and Jadzia herself were both boring as hell to me.

Ezri was was more tolerable than Jadzia to me, although still boring.

They may as well have been human honestly, so boring.

>>14325
Damar died a legend for his people to aspire to

>>14323
Its best to just not think about those last seasons. Space Jesus/Space Devil ending is just godawful on so many levels.
I guess there was a reason it took a while between the next trek after that schlock on air.

>>14326
>Ezri was was more tolerable than Jadzia
kek.
>>14327
Only thing he really did wrong was shooting Dukat's daughter, and that's only because it turned him into a shit character.

>>14325

Damar was the one who ended up being a savior to his people.

I have no idea why the writers fucked over Dukat so horribly honestly. Seriously, I have no idea why.

I knew the second him and Sisko were stranded together and Dukat was still seeing shit, I knew then that Dukat would never be important ever again. I knew they threw his character under the bus completely at that point.

I for one would have enjoyed a Klingon-Federation war arc like in Yesterday's Enterprise. Also not having a war with the Romulans was the biggest waste of golden episodes ever

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>>14105
HA, you arent making me do this area again buddy

>>14330
>that episode where him and Kira steal a klingon ship
so good

>>14333
>he becomes a better terrorist than her by blowing the old ship full of Klingons to bits, much to her dismay
Never understood why she was written so horribly.

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>>14332
What about this area?

>>14334
I think she had been around the Federation for too long. She wasn't the freedom fighter anymore but Dukat literally was.

>>14198
Data was real. Joe was a hologram.

>>14245
Winn was just a Vedek during the Cardassian occupation, Kai Opaka was in charge and she dies in like the first season.

>>14336
Speaking of such, why did Odo pussy out and not have her arrested all of those years ago?

>>14331
Truth be, Romulans cant really afford a war with anyone.
They border with Klingon space and have a bad fucking history with them.
Meanwhile they face constant inner turmoil and shit to put down/keep citizens in line, etc.
If they ever actually went to war, it would cost them really bad.
The federation would also suffer for sure(especially as at that point they were still so non militarily focused), but a real major war with the Romulans would have fucked them hard. The Klingons(especially being friends from the accords with the Feds) would have ass raped the Romulans from the side/retaken lost land, etc.

The Feds would have been fucked with any war that hit before the borg/dominion made them focus a bit more on fighting. The reason the borg rolled us so badly in the first place is because star fleet was using exploration and science vessels everywhere, including old outdated models.

It was the big loss to the first cube, and the later dominion war that really made the Feddies start to pump out combat capable ships.
If something happened before that, it would have been bad.

>>14339
Why did Kira deny Odo was a collaborator when he very clearly was?

>>14339
He had a crush on her whether he knew it or not

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>>14335
This will be your area for today, enjoy ;)

>>14340
>It was the big loss to the first cube, and the later dominion war that really made the Feddies start to pump out combat capable ships
Yet they still get assrapded in EU.
>>14341
No clue. The writing really wasn't as good as people say it was.
>>14342
Regardless, this was super Big Brother Odo. He should have sent her to be raped and killed by Dukat back then.

>there is a mission on star trek online where the dominion fleet that was removed completely by the prophets is put back in the wormhole and they come out to take over deep space nine

>the prophets were like "we had to put them back at some point lol sorry but not really lol"

I called bullshit on that.

>>14254
IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD

>>14322
>first name Nog
>Sikso's face when reading his full name in a report
How do they get away with this

>>14345
What about the fact that a few decades later, they're afraid of an outdated fleet that they know how to destroy? Could literally have just wiped them out and kept the female in her cell.

>>14345
Sounds like them though. Just wondering why Space Jesus agreed but who knows what eternal crack he's been smoking in that wormhole dimension.

>>14346
That fucking intro..... a disgrace compared to the others.

>>14182

Why was this show so funny originally?

Like what the hell happened to it? Why did it turn into a liberal soapbox and then Sam Hyde-lite after?

>>14343
>oh neat a new alt event
>wait that means I have to do that fucking quest line there again

>>14340
>TNG Starfleet is just a bunch of 100-year old Excelsior and Miranda ships with a handful of Galaxy and Nebula ships

>most of it gets wrecked at Wolf 359

>they plan out new ship classes, they don't get built for like 4 years

>get wrecked again by the Borg followed by the Dominion

>>14350
>Why did it turn into a liberal soapbox
Seth didn't die in 9/11.

>>14348

Well. Regardless if they knew how to deal with a Dominion fleet or not is irrelevant when an entire fleet appears literally out of thin air with no warning whatsoever.

Normally if they saw it coming, maybe then they would have dealt with it.

But they just simply appeared and overtook the station completely in a matter of minutes, everyone on DS9 were probably fucking chillin and didn't expect a sudden Dominion fleet to show up.

>>14072
Considering that Star Trek was Mass Effect before Mass Effect was even an idea in someone's head, yes.

>Having long discussions with Garak between exploring new solar systems

>>14348
They dont though. Remember that the Dominion war didnt exactly end in one giant "Fuck yeah Star Fleet". It was a combined effort, and even at the end took the disease from the founders and its curing to really bring the war to an end.
up until the end, the dominion warships were not well studied at all, and their capabilities were far beyond our normal stuff. Recall that a majority of the battles were with smaller jem hadar ships and they were assraping ships much larger their own size.

At the end of the war, we didnt get to keep dominion tech around to study. They said "fuck you, dont talk to me or my son again" and left.
They make a big deal about the Dominion tech and ships, and how desperate star fleet was to get one intact for study, etc.

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>>14351
what is it frendo? dont like some fun hobus?

>>14354
Especially since they had a nonaggression pact with the Dominion. Everyone was like "wtf just happen, fall back to bajor"

>>14352
Hey, it takes a long fucking time to build a spaceship

Do the Borg actually have the ability to think like we do, or are they actually automations following some programming?

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>>14157
it is weird when sisko lost his hair he became a much better character. Picard just had the benefit of starting early.

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>>14357
if its a ground mission it better be a cramped one where I can use aoe to blast through it

otherwise I'd rather be in spess

>>14354
So them not rallying a fleet to obliterate them was fucking stupid.
>>14356
Doesn't matter. This is years later and an outdated fleet not supported by its government. It should have just been the player fighting them. At this point they had Delta Quadrant tech to power them as well.

>>14360
Depends who's writing the episode, both have happened.

>>14350
Simpsons also turned into liberal soapbox. I think it's just a symptom of a show running way too long and not having any good ideas/writes left so they just put in what's current favoring their own political views.

Also now that I think about it South Park also kinda became the same but it's less obnoxiously pro-libertarian and makes fun of everyone even if it does seem to lean in favor of liberals.

>>14360
It's a hivemind following their programming until you get the borg queen mixed into shit

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>>14078
it's such a fucking shame how badly dukat became toward the end.

Mostly the writers fault because at first they didn't know or gave a shit about the character that the actor had a lot of freedom and when they stuck their nose, they turn him to shit.

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>started character in STO recently
>mfw I'll never get a cool 3000zen ship

>>14129
>wasn't really anyone's "friend" but instead was their leader.

Nah, he and Dr. Crusher were certainly friends. Or at least shared a personal bond as a result of her husband's death. They routinely address each other by their first names.

>>14306
>Does anyone else thing Jadzia was fucking boring as hell?
I liked Jadzia, until the actress playing her left the show to be on fucking Becker of all things, then I retroactively hated her. Ezri was a qt3.14.

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>>14368
they give out cool T6 ships during various parts of the year. at least three a year anyways
>summer event
>winter event
>anniversary event

>>14132

Hardly. John de Lancie is a fine classical musician.

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>>14362
we in spess? best post perfect ship

>there will never be a klingon/jem'hadar alliance story arc

It'd be like two races trying to one up the each other and whoever gets caught in their wake has to deal with that bullshit.

I think it was a missed chance for a crazy season of Star Trek to see the klingons and the jem'hadar basically going, "oh yeah well check THIS out" against another race, maybe the Romulans because I hate those fucksticks.

>klingon celebration/bar scene where the klingons are all drinking bloodwine and fighting and the jem'hadar are all watching from the sidelines
>klingon rough housing spreads over to the jem'hadar who are all waiting patiently for their assigned vorta to give them their ketracel white
>the jem'hadar fight back in a giant bar brawl
>the vorta shows up right as the klingons and the jem'hadar are on the verge of killing each other
>he gives the roughed up jem'hadar their ketracel white and the jem'hadar look at the klingons and start laughing
>the klingons go to the bar and toast with their bloodwine as the jem'hadar put the ketracel white in

Heaven help anyone who pisses off a Klingon/Jem'Hadar alliance.

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New series soon, Star Trek Discovery

>Another prequel (set between ENT and TOS)
>Hyper liberal approach (even for Star Trek)
>At least not in the alternate movie universe

Will it be an even bigger flop than Enterprise?

>>14360
Borgs individual thinking is overruled by the hivemind, thus they do not think generally and do work like automatons.

However when the link is broken or lost, their natural thinking/thought processes tends to take ahold again.
Its why we got independent borg colonies in shit like Voyager, and why we had individual folks like Hugh, or the entire Lore/Borg storyline.

Star Trek: Equinox I would watch

>>14371
I have an andromeda exploration cruiser but I'm a Romulan so it won't let me claim it

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>>14375
Guess who's gonna play Harry Mudd on STD?

to answer your question, yes.

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>>14373
I don't see anything

My ship has a railgun anyways

>>14285

It's--it's ruined.

>>14380

>no matching uniforms

Delete your account and start over.

>>14376
Don't understand how a hive mind even makes any kind of decision. Do they vote on what to do or something?
>inb4 get assimilated and find out

>>14375
>only on CBS's new streaming service for US/Canada
fuck that. at least I've found a good streaming site for now