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/smtg/ - Shin Megami Tensei General

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>Starter guide
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10886965/smtstarterguide.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/qqxkrWFh

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/fgVp423S

OST need re-up apparently

>Misc. Translations
http://pastebin.com/LHKVLNQB

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended Reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

Last thread: >>96404904
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Please just let us have peace. Let it die.
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>>96606807
Second for SJ a best.
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>>96607202
>gore's the only black guy on the entire squad
>dies pretty much instantly

Atlus isn't even subtle about their racism.
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>>96607945
>Racism.
>The ultimate human being is a black dude.
>The coolest Chaos Hero is an hispanic

If anything ATLUS likes to empower minorities.
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>>96607945
Too bad he didn't stay dead, instead of coming back to nig around some more.
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Hey so what ever happened to those two Anons that were translating the PSP version of Devil Summoner?
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>>96610520
It's not finished yet
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Anyone know where I could find a nice list of Japanese and English spells together?
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What do you name your protagonist, /smtg/?
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>>96616236
I self insert and put my name in it.
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>>96616236
godDAMN, just use your own fucking name, stop playing the games wrong you stupid cunts.
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>>96616236
ATLUS
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>>96616236
If they have an official name I use that or I use a goofy name.

Using my own name actually kills immersion. It's really weird seeing it in the game.
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So i just started DDS and i was wondering what the best build for Serph is, anyone got any tips?
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>>96617456
There is no real best. Strength and magic are both around equally viable. Just be sure to distribute your party's skills too; you don't want to end up with multiple people casting the same elements.
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>>96617456
Due yo press turn nature a phys build has the problem of mission a lot unlike magic so i suggest a build focused on str, mag and Vit that should make Serph extremely useful.
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>>96617456
Wurld of STR
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>>96616465
>>96616543
Why on Earth would you self-insert?
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>>96617812
Are you drunk?
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>>96617456

they're both good but magic is a bit more useful due to more versatility
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>>96619138
Because the games are meant to be played from YOUR perspective and not the character, otherwise they would give their MCs a personality and fixed name.

If you arent SI you are doing it wrong.
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>>96619138
>Look mom, I'm shitposting by asking why you would play a game the way it was made to be played.
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>>96620167
Says the guy throwing a tantrum over people not doing the same things he does.

Go back to /v/.
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>>96620296
Please don't reply to shitposters.
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>>96620746
But you just did.
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>>96620746
That anon its not shitposting, ATLUS games are meant to be self inserted into otherwise you are playing it for the wrong reasons.
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>>96621268
>playing for fun is wrong
>>>/v/
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>>96621786
>Hue.
>>>/b/

In all seriousness though, stop shitposting.
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>>96621786
>Not having fun self inserting.
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>>96620167
>>96619780
>play the game the way I say you should

Oh god you two faggots are still here.
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guys i want to ask what is the best possible fiend besides Daisoujou to have? any rider?
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>>96622161
>having fun self-inserting
What are you, 12?
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>>96623335
>Having fun.

What are you 5?
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>>96623464
>not having fun playing something
What are you, 50?
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>>96623692
>Fun
>Playing

What are you 1000 years old loli?
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I expected smtg to be more active on a weekend
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>>96629898
We are all waiting for death.
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>>96629898

With only 14 posters what did you spect?
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tips for nocturne?

also does rakukaja/nda also reduce/increase magical defense?
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>>96630346
Pay attention to the skills you discard. There is no way to get back a discarded skill.

And I think those affect magical defense too. Just remember that in Nocturne there's two spell series for affecting attack - tarukaja for physical attacks and makakaja for magical attacks.
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>>96630346
don't fuse your demons, they will level up and get stronger
put all your points into luck in the beginning
don't use skills like war cry or fog breath, they cost too much mp to be useful
avoid the kalpas as much as you can
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Discount when?
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>>96631139
It's 10 dollars, dude.
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>>96630737
ebin
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>>96631268
But if it goes for 7 like it does sometimes I can buy more shit with my 10 dollars
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>>96624070
God I wish
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>>96631139
its ten bucks you faggot
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>>96630593
STR: physical damage
MAG: magical damage
VIT: HP? physical def?
AGI: ???
LUCK: ???

What do these do?
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>>96632126

It generally does this
STR: Physical damage, HP, Physical Def
MA: Magical damage, MP, Magical Def
VI: HP, Physical Def
AG: Speed, Evasion, Hit rate. In some games it also affects both Physical damage and HP to some degree, can't remember in nocturne
LU: Evasion, Hit Rate, Crit Rate(both dealing and receiving them), how many turns it takes for Aliments to wear off, item drop rate
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>>96632126
Agi is hit/dodge chance
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>>96632432
>>96632491
in nocturne at least
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>>96631495
Are you that faggot who asks for Disgea 2 sale every PSN update?
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>>96632696
Nope
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>>96632126
AGI makes you run faster in dungeons
LUCK lets you find random money and sometimes items on the world map
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>>96634253
>>96634425
Yeah thats why my list says that
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Hey, guys. I just started playing Raidou vs Soulless Army, some anon told me to use STR/MAG build.

Any other tips you could give me?
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Now that SMT is a stupid fucking meme on /v/ thanks to the stupid Hunger games threads, are you guys ready for a huge wave of newfags that will try to get into the franchise and come here to make stupid fucking questions?
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>>96635025
Try to have as many demon types as possible with different investigation skills as well.

Also have many ammo types with you. Have many elemental spells because some demons that null bullets apply for elemental bullets as well.
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>>96636510
This thread is a slum anyways. A little bit /v/ in addition to the tumblr, reddit, not-4chan in here won't change much.
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>>96636510
Yes. Its better than the general being kept alive though shitposting.
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>>96621268
>tfw I gave Yu and Makoto my real name back in P3 and 4
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>>96636878
I hope you did in PQ as well.
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>>96636510
I don't even know what happened.
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>>96636510
What?
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>>96636510
What the fuck are you talking about.
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>>96635025
The red chest things that only demons can open have different stuff in them depending on the kind of demon that opens it.

Demons that TtaLlkK LiIkE tHiis always get treasure type items that you can sell to the shop.
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never ever
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>>96643864
You should have let us die
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>>96644006
NEVER EVER
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>>96637663
>>96637793
>>96637935
Hunger games simulator became huge at /v/, there was even a tournament, SMT characters never won a single match, even if they were 1/4 of the roster
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Persona isn't SMT
SMT =/= MT
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SMT is Persona
SMT = MT
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There is no such thing as SMT and life is an illusion
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Raidou 3 when?
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>>96649061
When /smtg/ dies
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>>96632491
Agi is a fire spell you memeslut
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>>96649119
tomorrow? sweet.
Also is PQ worth buying for the dungeons?

>inb4 /pg/
i dont care about the waifus, just the dungeon.
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>>96649980
No, the dungeons are pretty garbo. I'd only recommend it if you're a huge P3/P4 fan.
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>>96631139
It went on sale a couple weeks ago for 6.99, but seriously it's only 10 dollars
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>>96650168
>Dat smirk

I dont remember that image having him smug like that.
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>>96650427
Looks more like a grr expression than smug
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Whats up with all the crashing in Soulhackers? Does this only happen if you downloaded it from the Eshop?
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>>96651280
No.
it happens with curtains animations if i remember correctly.
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>>96651601
>curtains animations
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>>96651280
You probably are just unlucky. It crashed for me a grand total of once.
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>>96649980
Only if you want to see Zeus inside Elizabeths body talk about how bonds are shit.

>>96650043
Yet still the best dungeon designs Persona has ever had.
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>>96650168
Yeah, but I doubt it will go again soon since there's this heavely scheduled PS sale that lasts 8 weeks and has alredy details on what franchises goes on sale each week, so I might just buy it on tuesday after the week deals are updated
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Starting SJ over after not having played it for like a year. I got to Sector Delphinus last time; seeing as I'm fairly familiar with the game, how long will it take me to motor back through to where I was?
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>>96655768
I dunno, rushing Antlia should be easy but Bootes is complex enough that you could take quite a while to finish.

Maybe around 10 hours?
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What ending did you guys get the first time you played Nocturne?
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>>96661618
Neutral
Fuck that bee
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>>96662147
>Neutral
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>>96662843
>anything but law
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>They'd also have to tweak their translation to fit timing with the Japanese dialogue. "Next" doesn't always match up and some things are completely different that you'd notice they're not what the character is saying even if you don't know Japanese, like Fumi singing her name instead of counting birds for example, or characters saying something in English but it's translated as a different English word.

some companies just dont give a fuck
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>>96664971
>can't quote properly
>carries on a dead conversation
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>>96664971
It makes you appreciate atlus usa a little more.
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>>96665096
It's from last thread, and I'm still bitter about the name changes.

>>96665185
I wish I could unbuy SAO.
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>>96665185
>this horrific hackjob of a localization was actually okayed
Was the localization team hammered the entire time? Slamming back tequilas? Fucking what?
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>>96665235
lmbo if you bought that weeb game you deserve it
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>>96665235
Why would you SAO shit in the first place.

>>96665302
SMT is weeb games, weeb.
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>>96665185
I appreciate them every five minutes of playing Xenoverse. Grammar and spelling errors all over the place, character's names aren't correctly shown for who's actually speaking at times, etc.
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>>96665302
>>96665364
It was on sale.

A fool and their money...
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>>96665482
>buying a game JUST BECAUSE it's on fucking sale
Impulse buyers: not even once.
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>>96665850
Owning a Vita is suffering.
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>>96666026
That's not an excuse.
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>>96666094
I have to live with this mistake forever. Haven't I suffered enough?
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>>96666168
No, your suffering shall be eternal.
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>>96666240
yhwhy pz
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>>96666026
You're only making yourself look worse.
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I just went back to playing Raidou 2 now that I have a component cable to hook my ps2 up to my HDTV. Everything's pixelated as fuck but I forgot how perfect the fusion system and battles are.
Also, for the first time I've been playing Nocturne.

Currently level 57. What's a good level to tackle the third kalpa with Dante up your ass without having to worry about random battles with estoma? I notice if a wild demon has a level higher than yours, estoma doesn't work and I'd rather not sit through a bunch of annoying random battles in these kalpa's. These dungeons are hard enough as is.
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>>96668230
During the Dante chase there are no random encounters at all in the areas he's in. Other than that, Estoma and the Repulse Bells are all you really have in terms of lessening the random encounters. If you're playing on normal it's much easier to run from battles
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>>96649061
Not soon enough.
Please make it a console game on ps4 after persona 5, atlus. I will suck a billion dicks if so.
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>>96668098
The Vita was free.
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>>96668230
have you config your PS2?
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>>96669757
You can config a ps2 for HDTV's? How?
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For every fiend encounter except the one in Kasumigaseki you keep loading and reloading until it appears, and with the Kasumigaseki Fiend you just keep opening the door until he pops out.

Is this correct?
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>>96671163
well is not much but it helps a little:
enter in the menu and search for the... digital or optical? i dont remember correctly and put it at:

Y Cb/Pb Cr/Pr
And widescreen

What size is your tv?
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>>96671218
You actually have to go up the elevator for the one in kasumigaseki to reset the rng
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>>96671647
Ahhhhh fuck, that thanks for telling me.
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Holy shit, Izaya, Shizuo, and Celty are overpowered.
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>>96672619
their skills are hilarious.
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I miss Imagine Online.

I miss having Alice follow me around, and bunch of people throwing me invites because of it.

I miss shooting demons in the face with a shotgun, and dressing up my characters.

I'm upset they didn't transfer my character or anything either. This planet is real fucking shitty sometimes.
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>>96672619
What did you expect?
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WAKE UP
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>>96677459

GRAB A BRUSH AND PUT ON A LITTLE MAKE UP
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>>96677459
LET ME SLEEP PLEASE
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>>96677459
CAN'T WAKE UP
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>>96677459
I'm up, I'm up.

Let's get this shit going.
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Which SMT game has the most demons in it?
Which Persona game has the most demons in it?
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What SMT game's has the best soundtrack?

Only right answers are DDS2 and SJ
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>>96678835
IV.
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>>96677714
>>96677812
>>96677952
>3 different songs
You guys are great.
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>>96678835
Anything that's not Strange Journey
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>>96678835
DDS and P3
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>>96678835
Nocturne, P1, P3, SMT I, and SMT II
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>>96678835
1- Raidou 2
2- Digital Devil Saga 2
3- Strange Journey
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>>96678742
probably IV and P4, respectively
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>>96685913
Lewd.
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Just got the White ending in IV on a Reincarnation NG+ because I didn't want to do a "real" run when I was just going to end the game early anyway. I thought maybe going with their plan would give me a new angle on them or something but if anything it just made me depressed, especially when you're destroying the reactor and Burroughs tries to warn you one last time, then "congratulating" you while sounding really sad.

Fuck the Whites.
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>>96690986
Duh. Going white is just some dumb meme.
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>>96690986
>We're depressed because we think all reality sucks. Help us destroy it.
>I wonder if they have some good ideas.

Are you being serious right now.
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Which should I play first, Strange Journey or Devil Survivor?

I can't decide.
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>>96693204
Soul Hackers.
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>>96693204
Devil survivor.
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>>96691028
>>96692825
I suppose you guys don't know shit about buddhism.
White is as legit as LNC. SMT endings are pretty much always extreme as fuck.
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>>96693538
>I suppose you guys don't know shit about buddhism.

Try me.
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>>96693707
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bud/index.htm
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/thanissaro/emptiness.html
I'm not saying that the White ending is buddhistic but their philosophies are very similar.
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http://personacentral.com/new-atlus-employee-interview-hints-at-an-unannounced-rpg/

Perhaps a new SMT spin-off?
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>>96694052
I'm not opening your retarded links. But we already know that. It should be noted that wanting actual self annihilation is something buddhism warns against, and points out that extinguishing your aggregates is different from desiring total annihilation. Since a desire for annihilation in itself is an aversion to suffering, which is another thing that your enlightenment is to help you overcome. And that you're not meant to see extinguishing your aggregates as erasing your existince, but rather transforming it from something that experiences the world subjectively to something that experiences it objectively. Which is so far beyond comprehension even to the gods that its seen as not existing.

It is however true that mahayana buddhism accuses theravada buddhism of having a self destructive tendency. They claim that a true buddha would be all moral and ths stay in samsara helping all people achieve a collective enlightenment that they experience together. And consider theravada's goal of just leaving as fast as possible without it mattering your relation to others to be effectively just hating existence.

Either way, there's no way you can derive from the white saying they want to erase anything a good interpretation of anything resembling a coherent buddhist resolution. Its only buddhist in the sense that people accuse buddhism of flirting with these tendencies.
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>>96694484
Its another P3&4 spinoff or a P5 spinoff. ATLUS has given up on new IPs.
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>>96694815
ATLUS created a new IP and is being released in 5 weeks.
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>>96694543
Their world view is almost exactly the same. The White however think that it is reality and because of that there is no spiritual way out. The only option they see is returning everything to nothingness.
Of course there are a fuck ton of different interpretations of Buddha's teaching but from what I know Buddha really wanted the (spiritual) annihilation of the self.
I'm curious, how can links be stupid?
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>>96695193
>Their world view is almost exactly the same.

Its not. The misconception comes from assuming that what buddhism is describing is total self annihilation. But its not that at all. Its a transformation that comes from erasing what you "know" as the self. And involves intense training to learn otherwise. You're taking "thinking something is bad and wanting to change it" and spinning that as a similarity. But that describes every ending. Trying to turn yourself into an impersonal abstraction is different from trying to literally erase yourself.

At best you can tie this to the fact that there may not be total enlightenment in the smt universe, so this is the only way to totally erase the self. But that's not about the white being buddhist, so much as it is a dark spin on religion and reality in general. Te idea that everything "just working" is a fantasy, and that you have to work in light of this. And that someone who wants a thing they realize isn't real may desire total annihilation seeing it as the only way to stop rebirth for good. Contrasted with SJs law end, which seems to stop rebirth for good, and do this for real, without erasing everything.
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How much is left of SMT4 by the time you reach the Unclean Ones' country?
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>>96696762

Uh... like 80% of the game? Maybe a little less if you had a really hard time and took a long time to get there.
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>>96696928
Are you going to need us to pay for you to get your autism cheched out?
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>>96696762
Like 90% of the game
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>>96695723
Again I'm talking about the world view, self-annilihation is part of the solution/reaction.
And again for Buddha it is spiritual like you described while for the White it is not.
But you really can't deny the similarities (of course you need to consider the different universes) either.
>there may not be total enlightenment in the smt universe, so this is the only way to totally erase the self
I already adressed that, for Buddha our world is not real/illusional, Nirvana is the absolute reality, while tbe SMT world is reality for the White. YHVH, Lucy, all other demons continue to exist as long as humans do, for them neither side seems like a good solution, the suffering will continue, even if one ending did stop it for a limited time. They don't believe that any Law ending is a (permanent) solution and they don't believe in a spiritually accessible Nirvana/Nothingness.
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>>96694815
I dunno about that, they chose some pretty bad wording and quotes if it was a Persona spinoff.
>He found the dark atmosphere of Atlus RPGs compelling, and he is glad his wish to join the company came true.
>“Personally, I believe Shin Megami Tensei III is Atlus’ magnum opus. I want to realize a game that surpasses even that.”
>H.I. finishes by saying that, since game production goes over a long period of time, he is still involved with the the game he started working on since he joined Atlus two years ago. It is an unannounced RPG, which he states will be rather innovative, and he hopes fans will be receptive to it, as it is different from previous titles the company has developed.

Two years ago matches up about when the Maniax team was finishing SMT IV and moving onto their next project. Wonder if it's a new SMT spinoff or that new IP they've been talking about being in development.
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>>96698981
>>96699280
>He say he likes SMT 3.
>His project is a P3 sequel following the game ending were Nyx destroyed the world were you play as a reincarnated emo-jesus and try to rebuild it.
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>>96698981
>Personally, I believe Shin Megami Tensei III is Atlus’ magnum opus.
Why the fuck does every normie on the planet snub Strange Journey?
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>>96700163
Because handheld games arent never considered the best games, only console releases.
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Playing Nocturne for the first time, is a Physical oriented build recommended the most?
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>>96703123
yes
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>>96703123
World of STR.
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>>96697001
Wouldn't completely ignoring manners, customs, habits of the place on is posting in be more autistic? The userbase of 4chan in general doesn't approve of emoticons, writing like one speaks, etc. This isn't a chatroom where everyone talks like they would while on the phone or from face to face. So please don't write stuff like Uhmm... Uh-huh etc. like a 12-year old kid. A lot of people would be pissed if you talk like for example a narrator in a literary work.
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>>96703123
Late game yes but for the most part magic is more useful and less risky.
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SMT X FE = never
Fuck you ATLUS
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>>96706725
>x FE never
Good.
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> Level 93 in Nocturne
> hunting for Magatamas
> find Mara
> through a series of passing, get two provokes from Dante and a Focus on Demi-Fiend
> use Friekugel
> 3200 damage
> Mara dies in one hit
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>>96712948
What kind of skill is Friekugel? Magic?
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>>96704505
>not going out of your way to avoid things that trigger autists is the true autism.

No, really. Fuck off.
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>>96716103
You're right. Now please go to ISIS-chan and tell her that Allah is a shit.
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