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Fuse that Edition

- LATEST NEWS -
> Persona 5 newest trailer fan-translated to English: http://youtu.be/dEBVA-i90jM
> Persona 5 Information + P-team Letter about P5 + Dengeki info: pastebin.com/5M1rpQeH
> Persona 4:Dancing all night info: http://pastebin.com/LqjjLd9Z
> Midsummer Knight's Dream BD releases March 11th, 2015, Falling Down in theaters April 4th, 2015
> P4U2 confirmed to appear at EVO 2015
> P4U2 2.0 released in arcades on January 15th, 2015, console release date unconfirmed
> Music CD for Persona 3: Falling down in March
> P4DAN release date 6.25.2015 in Japan, NA TBA, First print copies come with exclusive Persona 5 footage
> P5 still scheduled for 2015 in both Japan and NA, simultaneous release for the PS3/PS4 versions, not the regions

- GUIDES -
> General Persona Guide
pastebin.com/QPB3QuNm
> Persona 1 Guide
persona1.wikidot.com/start
> Persona Q Guide
pastebin.com/Bq16HvJh

- ULTIMAX LINKS -
> Starter guide/Golden arena info
http://pastebin.com/bhxwmZ1H
> P4U2 2.0 change list
docs.google.com/document/d/1csHKZLeZZx6U9Qa5EAKduNUtzUlqwdpDzrB0uOvKviQ/edit
> P4U/P4U2 Player List/ Image / Sound / Movie / Palette Rip / New Music Tracks
pastebin.com/gpCHdCDE

- DOWNLOADS -
> Art, Guides, Music and more
pastebin.com/Vh0CdRit
> Artbook, Soundtrack, Manga, and other downloads
pastebin.com/fgVp423S
> P4 Dengeki Comic Anthology
mediafire.com/?4kjjaf0jtw2jyj3
> Persona/SMT image collection
mediafire.com/?9j3us2v34coua

- MANGA -
> Scans
personascans.tumblr.com/
mediafire.com/personascans#unst48ukbu457
> Translated Scans
pastebin.com/CX8q1FLp
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>>94917024
Last thread
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For Kindness
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P5 will have a character who dances for normal attacks. Weapon equips will be instructions for different kinds of dances. Trust me, I work for EA.
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>>94980314
>not compendium that

For shame
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>>94980648
Kill yourself.
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>>94980515
Izanami has a thing for younger boys
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For waifu
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>>94981365
>No Izanami Doujins

I hate you, Japan
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>>94979935
You fuse individually for every character. It's right there when you ask to fuse in the VR. And it will tell you if they are compatible or not. For example Lilim is only compatible with me characters because slut, but if you look at the females it will show "worst" compatibility.
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>>94981480
There's probably some, just no one ever scanned them.
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For best girls
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>>94981810
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I hope P5 has a few specific masks you can equip.
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>>94981667
Almost as heinous a crime as there not being any. Possibly worse.
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>>94982220
I hope P2 fags stay in irrelevancy
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For the true sefl!
For JUSTICE!
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>>94982576
It's a nice mask is all I'm saying.
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Keepin it stylish
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QUICK
MENTION 5 SKILLS THAT HAVE THE COOLEST ANIMATIONS
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Does anyone have any pictures of yukiko getting fucked in the ass by rise or mitsuru?
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>>94983976
megido
megidola
megidolaon
morning star
black viper
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>>94983976
Agneyastra
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>>94983976
Navas nebula
Myriad arrows
Thunder reign
Megidolaon
Niflheim
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>>94984016
or adachi
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>>94981667
I never knew i could be so sad for not knowing japanese
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>>94984069
Megido looks like shit
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>>94983976
Vorpal Blade
Morning Star
Myriad Arrows
Samsara
Nebula Oculus
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>>94983560
everybody's winter outfits look really nice

inaba's weather is fucked up
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>>94983560
Yukek is the most fashionable persona girl
She dress even better than turbobitch takeda or infinite money kiriko
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>>94984562
except yosuke's
his yasogami midwinter is just his usual jacket with some ugly orange thing underneath

I was surprised with how good chia's yasogami midwinter looks though
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>>94982576
Already more relevant then they've been in quite awhile, though
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>>94984773
Shame she's gonna freeze to death due to a lack of pants though
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>>94984671
mitsuru doesn't actually pick out her outfits herself, she just wears what the fashion stylist says to wear

that being said, yuki's fashion sense appears to be something she would be paid money by kirijo for
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>>94984783
Does saying that you're relevant despite not actually being relevant count as relevancy?
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>>94984783
>Already more relevant then they've been in quite awhile
How? You deluded P2fags already had your balls kicked when social links got confirmed and the game shapes up to be more and more like P3/P4 than ever. Stop bothering everyone, Atlus doesn't give a fuck about you. You're like an obsessive ex-boyfriend, jesus.
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>>94985175
Somehow I get the feeling that P2fags aren't the obsessive ex-boyfriends here.
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>>94985025
looking good takes priority
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>>94985262
>can't let go of a company that doesn't pander to them anymore
>keep trash talking their new products hoping that they will go back to them

Yup, P2fags are the obsessive ex-boyfriends alright.
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>>94985025
It's fine, she nulls ice
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>>94985351
I think she would look just as good with a pair of tights on
But yeah I love her winter jacket too

>>94985517
Only in the TV-world
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>>94985579
She comments on how she doesn't feel cold even when she has her legs bare, it's implying that she can resist it
Meaning that Yukiko can't get burned, Kanji can't get electrocuted and Yosuke can't get....pushed by wind? I dunno
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>>94985773
>Meaning that Yukiko can't get burned

That's not what it looked like when i friendzoned her :^)
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>>94985773
Naoto wins the yasogami sun-stare competition
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>>94985958
Naoto is immune to skin cancer
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It's kind of incredible how P4 ended up generating so much cash when P Team put nowhere near as much work into it as they would normally. I'm not going to call it the 50 Shades of Grey of the series or anything, but hopefully they don't make a bad habit out of deciding on all of their motifs and even the character names at the last minute.
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>>94986128
not this shit again
now you're telling me how P3 is so unique and revolutionary and the best story ever and how the characters had the best development ever despite being generic angst anime #184

some people like a light hearted detective story instead of emo evangelion clone, deal with it. many people, actually, seeing how succesfull P4 was.
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>>94986089
Naoto cannot tan and will be pasty forever
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>>94986128
P5 has been in development for 7 years compared to P4's 2 so I don't think we have to worry about that too much.
I'm a bit sceptical to if I'll like the whole sneaking around deal, but at least it means they're doing something new
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>>94986284
Just like i like it
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>>94986284
Good, I like my Naotos pale and pasty
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I want to fuck Anzu
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>>94986273
This has jack shit to do with P3. Hashino went on record saying that P Team took a very lazy approach to P4. Believe it or not, P4 isn't completely flawless.
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>>94986273
Don't reply to bait with bait,fool.
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>>94986513
>Hashino went on record saying that P Team took a very lazy approach to P4
He never said that
And obviously they had the pressure of doing a sequel to a praised game just two years ago, they couldn't work as much on it as they wanted. Still did a great job and P4 managed to be even more popular than P3, to glorious and delicious tears of MCfags everywhere
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>>94985958
Naoto can also find her way around in the dark, I guess.
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>>94986646
I hope Persona 5 continues the Persona 4 trend rather than trying to be as edgy as the first four persona games.
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>>94986727
She's a big girl and isn't afraid of the dark anymore
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>>94986646
And all they needed to do was make a protagonist so perfect that everyone would suck his dick.
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>>94986776
>And all they needed to do was make a protagonist so perfect that everyone would suck his dick.
Nah, they just needed to do a good one. They tried that with P3 and only faggots on a cantonese image board obsess over that skinny faggot.
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Guys, pls no fighting and falling for obvious bait
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>>94986773
Honestly there wasn't anything edgy about P1 or IS. Only edgy part is towards the end of IS.
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>>94986727
I bet she can

I'm trying to make an innuendo out of this but I'm not sure how

>>94986773
To me at least it still looks like P5 will be a red P4, except more stylized and hopefully more difficult. Which I'd be totally fine with.
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>>94986646
> they couldn't work as much on it as they wanted
They decided on symbolic shit like the glasses at the last minute. They had no design document because they decided to go with the vague idea they had and didn't bother making one. They treated the game like it was no big deal until they got closer to release and the corners they cut got them in trouble. They didn't even have to make an engine from scratch but this shit still happened.

All shit they caused on their own that had nothing to do with time constraints.
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>>94986646
People take the comment that they didn't have a central design document as a statement that the developers were lazy and didn't care. Just like the statement that in the early drafts of the game Adachi wasn't the killer, some people take to mean that Adachi wasn't the killer until the game was almost literally out the door and Atlus changed it at the last second.

People take statements and twist them to justify their own ideas. This is nothing new.

>>94986773
>The previous Persona games were edgy
I know we argue about edgy a lot in this general, but P1 was not edgy at all. And the first 90% of IS was a lot of goofiness.
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>>94986920
Imply that "the dark" is somewhere beneath the sheets and "finding her way" is some sort of sexual metaphor.
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>>94986925
Soejima was pushing the glasses since the beginning, when everyone else wanted to have them summon their Personas using masks for some reason
>They didn't even have to make an engine from scratch but this shit still happened.
Why would they make a new engine? Do you know how Atlus operates? They reuse everything possible.
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>>94986925
You know that things can happen anytime during game development, including the final months, right? GTA was just a boring racing game till a bug in fucking playtesting changed their minds because getting your shit pushed by the police was more fun than the original game they had in mind. An iconic change literally at the last minute, and you know how GTA is big now. Your argument is not only stupid but also untrue because a lot of earlier concept art show the characters using glasses already.
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Man, P4fags are really defensive
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>>94987502
It's like talking to a crowd comprised entirely of selective readers.
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>>94986925
>They decided on symbolic shit like the glasses at the last minute.
But that's wrong. Soejima made few sketches where they use masks instead of glasses because that's what everyone wanted, but he wanted to go with glasses from the beginning because he thought it would be amusing to have all main characters wear glasses
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>>94986979

You know I never got why Persona 1 is so fucking idolized here. I mean even back when it was new the book on it was "hey there's a lot of fucking cool ideas here but it isn't put together well." It wasn't until P2 when the cool ideas starting coming together well.
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>>94987585
>he thought it would be amusing to have all main characters wear glasses
Fucking Soejima
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Why do I keep hearing rumors of there being 5 P3 movies? Was this confirmed or are people really delusional enough to think P3 has enough plot for that?

pic unrelated it's me dying in maniac mode
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>>94987502
>>94987565
Have you actually read any of those posts or am I just falling for bait by responding to you
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>>94986885
Why not? There's really nothing else to do but shitpost til maybe the P3 falling down CD comes out. We've run out of things to speulate and droll over with the Persona 5 and dancing all night trailers.
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>>94980693
Disco Kid persona when?
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>>94987707
Well, some people really like it. Same reason why some people still love a lot of old-school JRPGs even when their mechanics would be considered archaic today. Some people appreciate it. I never managed to get through P1, though I'm considering picking it back up.
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>>94987771

Wasn't there some new news about DAN? I swear I heard that there was some new shit about DAN that understandably got swept to the side here.
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>>94987732
There's a special card in Japan that holds 5 stamp spaces for each movie
I can't find the pic
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>>94987502
Because this argument is bullshit. Just because Hashino said that the team was easygoing and didn't bother making shit they really needed doesn't mean it's true, and clearly the scenario where they were working hard down to the wire is the one that actually happened.
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>>94987874
New news? Do you mean something since the reveal of Naoto and yukiko? Because I don't remember anything of that nature.
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>>94987874
Just that Nanako isn't just a cameo appearance and that she'll have a big role in the game's plot. Other than the reveal of suspenders with cleveage Naoto and open sweater Yukiko w the theme song. that's it. I'm honestly wondering if they' ll even tell us anything about Kanami before the game releases. Then again, we knew exactly jack shit about Labrys, Sho, Rei and Zen before those games came out.
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>>94987770
I might just be being paranoid, but I think this crap happens a lot around this time of day.

>>94987813
It'll happen. I promise.
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>>94987874
It wasn't much. They just officially confirmed costumes and said they're putting a lot of effort into them, Nanako has an important role in game and Hanako won't be playable. We talked about that already.
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>>94988159
Not cleavage Naoto, she's wearing an undershirt

I hope there's a cleavage costume for her though because god damn
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>>94988159
>>94988193

Yeah, that and appparently they're going to do DLC costumes and songs. Forgive me for not regularly stopping by here since when /pg/ doesn't have new shit to talk about it ends up arguing about the same goddamn things over and over again. Like it's either Waifu wars, P3 vs P4, P1/2 vs P3/4, and bickering over minor details.
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>>94988292
It's a fanservice music game with costumes. Of course there will be a cleavage costume for her. There'll be revealing costumes for everyone.

Including the guys. ESPECIALLY the guys.
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>>94987732
Kill yourself.
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>>94988480
>Including the guys.
>ESPECIALLY the guys.
awww yeah

Battle panties for everyone
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>>94987707
For the time, Persona 1 was very popular because an RPG like that wasn't common. I would say that games that have characterization and actual story was very new to Atlus o P1 was very different for them.

And if not that I liked the characters of P1. Sure they're not as dimensional as the rest of the Persona cast, but they have their charm.

>>94987941
>Just because Hashino said that the team was easygoing and didn't bother making shit they really needed doesn't mean it's true,
>Hashino himself said it
>Doesn't mean it's true

I think I'm being trolled.
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>>94988059
No wonder she straps those things down. With her tits released, she's so topheavy.
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>>94988430
Embrace the bickering and arguments
Join the collective
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>>94988626
strapping them doesn't change their mass and weight
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>>94988593
>Persona 1 was very popular because an RPG like that wasn't common

Yeah, that's what I said, it had some cool as fuck ideas but the actual gameplay bits were a fucking mess when compared to 2. People played one for the story (which was fucking revolutionary at the time) and sort of dealt with the janky gameplay mechanics even for a PS era JRPG.
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>>94987502
go away tumblr
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>>94988593
I was being sarcastic.

The point is that P4fags don't want to accept that P4's design process wasn't as complete as it should have been, and consider any other perspective a warped interpretation of a fairly straightforward quote.
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>>94988540
If you look at the picture you will see that I already did.
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>>94988914
more like P1-P3 shitters trying to make P4 look bad anyway they can just because not everyone likes the bullshit premises of the old games as much as they do P4's. They need to be reminded that if it wasn't for P4 there would be no Persona 5.

>>94988802
You sure it''s not just favoritism and nostalgia talking?
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http://strawpoll.me/3681531
important poll
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>>94988914
That's fair
I think it's just that at this point people have gotten very sensitive and see any criticism as automatically playing into the 3 vs. 4 debate
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>>94988480
>Yu jumping like a crab behind nanako's cute dance

STOP TRYING TO STEAL THE SPOTLIGHT EVERYTIME YOU FUCK
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>>94988802
Sorry I must have misread it then.

I have played maybe JRPGs back in the PS1 era and I do have to say that the gameplay of P1 is pretty backwards for its time. Although thinking about it in terms of other JRPGs, Persona 1 came before FFVII. I might be judging a little too harshly.

>>94988914
Oh I honestly couldn't tell. P4fags are a lot more defensive and the P2fags about their game, despite what they may believe.

>>94989070
>You sure it''s not just favoritism and nostalgia talking?

I honestly doubt but maybe 2 people here on /pg/ played Revelations when it was released initially in the US. I played P1 back in 2012.
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>>94988914

It isn't "as complete as it should have been" so much at it is "We decided to try something different since everyone was on the same page but in retrospect it could have been disastrous"
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>>94988480
i want to ravage her kiddy body
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>>94989112
Waifu wars can at least be entertaining
Every game argument can be ended with just admitting that they are all fun games
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>>94989112
I like when people calmly rationally discuss either of those things
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>Is the protagonist’s name officially Yu Narukami in the game?

>It is and it’s going to be locked to that. I know everyone has their own idea of who the Persona 4 protagonist is in their heads, but if you look at it as just another unique spin on that character, I think you’ll find a lot to enjoy about him here.

I hope the Soujifags are crying.
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>>94989251
>P4fags are a lot more defensive and the P2fags about their game

You know this is not true

>>94989398
>I hope the Soujifags are crying.
literally no one
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>>94989136
That's pretty much what this whole argument was immediately perceived as, even though there was no mention of 'Dojima was supposed to be the killer' or 'Atlus took the easy way out with the Scoobies' anywhere. So yeah.
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>>94989280
Get the fuck out.
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>>94989449
>literally no one

I'm referring to the other Persona communities, you dingus.
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>>94989449
>literally no one
Entire tumblr
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>>94989449
A lot of fanfiction authors are Soujifags.
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>>94989398
who the fuck is Souji
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>>94989261
But it wasn't "we tried something different", it was "we didn't bother making a design document and it caused problems later that could've been way worse than they were."

At the very least they aren't going to be making a mistake as dumb as this again.
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>>94989529
whut
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>>94989070
>They need to be reminded that if it wasn't for P4 there would be no Persona 5.
This argument is the most stupid one I've seen
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>>94989578
>>94989632
>tumblr
>fanfic
so he was right, no one.
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>>94989565
>I'm referring to the other Persona communities
who
>>94989578
>Entire tumblr
fucking
>>94989632
>A lot of fanfiction authors are Soujifags.
cares

Seriously.
No one important ever called him souji.
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>>94989761
But it's true. If there was no Persona 4 there wouldn't be a Persona 5.
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>>94989875
And if there was no persona 3 there wouldn't be a persona 5
And if there was no persona 2 there wouldn't be a persona 5
And if there was no Persona 1 there wouldn't be a Persona 5
And if there were no MegaTen there wouldn't be a persona 5

You see how dumb it is?
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>>94986128
They said that they made P4 without a design document which is one of the stupidest decisions you could ever make when making a game. They already admitted how much of a mistake it was to do that, it's a miracle the game was even remotely coherent
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>>94989875
>calling charlie tunoku "souji" or "yu'
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>>94990181
>calling [your real name here] "souji" or "yu"
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>>94990173
It was a joke. Anon was probably trying to claim that if P4 hadn't gotten popularized by the casuals P5 absolutely never would've been made.
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>>94989703
Yeah
Then again, they could very easily go down the same route if they treat P6 with the same laissez faire attitude
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>>94990312
>naming MC or Yu with your own names

No one did this
Right?
Right???
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It's canon
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>>94990405
I did because of habit
I've done it for 12 years and I'm still doing it
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>>94986321
>P5 has been in development for 7 years compared to P4's 2
I don't think this is actually true, they never really talked about working on P5 at all until after Catherine came out
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>>94983976
black spot
akasha arts
thunder reign
myriad arrows
hassou tobi
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>>94990405

I named him Dick Butkiss because I have the humor of an 8 year old :^)
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>>94990405
I did it before I knew their names
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>>94990405
I did it for both P3 and P4 and plan on doing it in P5

I didn't in P2 though, for obvious reasons. Most games that give you the option but already fill in a name on the menu to type something in I won't change the name.
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>>94989703
>we didn't bother making a design document
Yes
>it caused problems later that could've been way worse than they were
This is you extrapolating and not what the interview actually says. It says that not having a document did give them trouble and they recognized it was a mistake not to have one but you make it seem like they were on the verge of disaster all through the design process.
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>>94990541
Work P5 started after Catherine finished. It definitely wasn't 7 years.
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>>94989280
>sexualising the nanako
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>>94990530
Kill yourself.
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>>94990173
Great job looking like a dumbass. Persona 4 saved the franchise in the same way Fire Emblem Awakening saved their franchise. You can hate it all you want but it doesn't change how true that is. Persona 3 didn't bomb but it didn't blow motherfuckers out of the water like Persona 4 did and P1 and P2 were indie level titles at best.
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>>94990405
>with your own names
do you mean my irl name?

I named the MCs what I usually name in online games
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>>94990680
That's exactly what i do
Besides, the games tell you "insert your name"
Why would you try to go against it?

>>94990734
But i like life
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>>94990541
Don't you know, squeals are worked on the day after the last one was made.
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>>94990405
I named him Punch Deadlift, because I didn't occur to me that it might stop being funny 10 hours into the game and never be funny again
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>>94990541
>>94990708
Alright, my bad
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>>94990701
>This is you extrapolating and not what the interview actually says.
>"Hashino also jokingly revealed that they would never make that mistake again, considering how much trouble the lack of such a document had caused them."
>considering how much trouble the lack of such a document had caused them.
>considering how much trouble
>trouble
>caused
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>>94989449
>literally no one
Literally dead. LJ loved calling him that.
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>>94990875
Good job, you found the quote the guy you're replying to was talking about and by doing so backed up what he was saying
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>>94991195
If you think that's proving the other guy right then you're clearly retarded
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>>94991195
That's the point.

How does
>it caused problems later that could've been way worse than they were
translate to anything but what's reflected in that quote?
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>>94990754
You're unbelievable
Your use of "if it wasn't for X then Y wouldn't have existed is retarded, just because it was popular doesn't mean it was good
P4 set the quality bar so low that every fucking baby could reach it
Just because it wad popular doesn't mean it's a good game
It's like surviving starvation by eating shit and claiming that shit is the best thing in th world
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>>94990469
Harem end is canon
>>
Persona 3 is a great game

Persona 4 is a great game
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>>94990754
how so? you can see very clearly that P4 had a way bigger budget than P3. So it's not like P3 was a failure or anything.

yea, P4 exploded and we have 9 thousand spin-offs now, but the franchise wasn't that by any means
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Alright, I'm level 40. What's my best bet against this nigga?
Also welcoming persona reccomendations for my level since I have a load of ~28 shit
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>>94992061
>how so?
Projecting. Lots and lots of projecting.
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>>94990875
Yes, 'caused trouble', and that's all it says in regards to that. You can't say exactly how much trouble it caused or what the ramifications of not having a document were outside of 'causing trouble'.

Saying that it was a miracle that P4 was coherent is entirely from you, because no one knows what the trouble not having the document caused was. The worst controversy we can be certain about is the mask/glasses thing.

If anything, P3, which had a design document, is now less coherent than P4, because almost all of the underlying mechanics and principles of P3's supernatural shit got retconned in the Answer. Now you have pre-retcon shit lying around in FES that doesn't make sense anymore, like MC enhancing people's potential/persona awakenings.
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>>94991998
Oh yeah? Well I agree, jerk.
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>>94991998
fuck you

for being right
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>>94991998
Are you fucking stupid? Persona 1 and 2 are great games too. All the games are fun and i enjoyed them. HOW ABOUT THAT UH?
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>>94992102
Use Mitsuru and Aigis instead of Yukari and Ken
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>>94992268
Don't forget Nyx being an alien, and once he was unleashed everybody was fucked, but an emo manlet manages to save the day somehow through the power of friendship!

I hope P5 doesn't betray us like that. At least P4 had the decency to not use a god like that.
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>>94992102
you can just google the floor you're in and you'll find all the information you want. and I think it's safe to say most people won't remember good personas to use midgame.

>Also welcoming persona reccomendations for my level since I have a load of ~28 shit

you should recycle your shit way more often. Your personas should always be a couple of levels above you.

>>94992061
>but the franchise wasn't that by any means
wasn't dead by any means*

>>94991998
but persona 4 is popular therefore it's shit :^)
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>>94992439
nobody was arguing about if persona 1 or 2 is better

i think persona 2 is alright, love the story. never finished it though, and I've never played p1.
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>>94992268
I'm not even the anon that said it was a miracle that it was coherent. But the lack of a design document of all things almost certainly stirred up more shit than just the glasses thing.

Bringing up the Answer and retcons like this is entirely pointless and gives me cause to believe that you don't really know what a design document does, or why it's so vital to team oriented work.
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>>94992439
You have no standards and would enjoy eating shit as much as playing your favorite game.
>>
What was Ikutsuki plan anyway? Nyx would kill everyone and couldn't be destroyed. He just wanted to call the Fall for shits and giggles? And of course he knew that, he knew more about Nyx than everyone, hell he probably was the only one that knew about Nyx in the first place.
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>>94992671
No Persona 4 was shit because it didn't have AI controlled team members.
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>>94992705
>But the lack of a design document of all things almost certainly stirred up more shit than just the glasses thing.
what exactly happened? can somebody link me to an interview that explains or something, please?
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>>94992505
>betray us

Thats gotta be the most arrogant and ignorant thing I've seen posted in this thread.
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>>94992805
He was crazy.
Leave it there.
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>>94992505
>this much hypocrisy
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>>94992825
No it was shit because it's not dark like my soul ;^D
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>>94993046
this is hypnotic
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>>94993046
I never said P4 didn't do the same thing, I said they had the decency to not hype up Ameno/Izanami like that only to end it with the world not destroyed.
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>>94992882
http://www.siliconera.com/2010/09/22/behind-the-design-of-persona-4/
Soejima drafted up the glasses early on but they weren't finalized until 'the last minute'. The P Team was probably feeling a little too good about themselves after P3 and thought they were all on the same page for P4 and so went about making various elements of the game without a design document to keep everything consistent, which caused problems later on.

If P Team wasn't inherently good at what they did P4 would've been an absolute trainwreck.
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>>94992805
it was just bad writing. He had no motivation AT ALL but they wanted to have a twist in the story.

Adachi also suffer from the same problems too, imo (I can't fucking stand the I KILLED THEM BECAUSE IT WAS FUN anymore).

Also, how did the people adachi killed appear on the midnight channel before he threw the bodies inside the TV?
He wasn't guiding himself by the midnight channel to chose who to throw into the TV like namatami and the people appeared on the midnight channel before they were actually thrown in.
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>>94993304
The midnight channel doesn't show who's actually in the TV, it shows what people are talking about/want to know more about. Adachi killing the reporter lady and Saki after that was coincidence.
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>>94993249
So this explains why Nanako revives for no reason and Teddie can enter the VR?
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>>94993304
>people adachi killed appear on the midnight channel before he threw the bodies inside the TV?
What appears on the midnight channel is whatever the collective desire of the people watching it want to see.
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>>94993304
The people Adachi fucked with were incidentally the focus of attention right before they died. Mayumi because of the scandal with Namatame, Konishi because she found Mayumi's body.
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>>94993712
Well it's more like the events that made them be in the public mind are what gave Adachi his chances to get near them, the affair and the body discovery.
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Would you play a Persona themed Dynasty Warriors? They did thousands of them already
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>>94993849
Yeah, coincidence wasn't the right word.
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>>94993712
>>94993789
>>94993802
Ah, okay, makes sense. Thanks.

>>94993249
thanks for the link, anon
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which waifu has the best hentai
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>>94993970
>Ah, okay, makes sense. Thanks.
wait, now that I'm thinking a bit more about this, how does this apply to nanako? Only her voice appeared on TV, would that really be enough for her to be on the midnight channel?
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>>94994120
Rise.
Chie and Naoto have the biggets amount of pics, but Rise has the ones with most quality.
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>>94994120
Nanako.
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Will you Persona faggots please keep your shit out of /fgg/?

Thanks.
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>>94993786
It's mostly the reason for why P4 is so general about absolutely everything.
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>>94993304
The Midnight Channel showed who was on everyone's minds at the time. Because of the scandal, people couldn't stop talking/thinking about Mayumi.

Adachi was interested in her and, being Elliot Rodger of 4, was stunned that she was a cheater so he went to confront her.

Saki found her body and was the talk of the town for a while so she then showed up on the Midnight Channel. Adachi saw her with Namatame, figured the same thing was happening with her, and confronted her too.
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>>94994120
Yu
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>>94994120
Mitsuru
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>>94994240
Rise has the best doujin but Naoko has a better batting average
>>94994282
absolutely disgusting
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>>94994282
Iwant t he lolicons to leave
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>>94994237
She was the talk of the town because even her voice is super cute
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>>94994376
Yeah, that makes sense.

I'm still not sure about Adachi being so sure Nanako would be the next one to show up on the midnight channel to send that warning letter to Yu and all. And nanako appearing on the midnight channel when only her voice was shown on TV.
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>>94994762
>I'm still not sure about Adachi being so sure Nanako would be the next one to show up on the midnight channel to send that warning letter to Yu and all

Adachi was toying with Namatame by that point
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>>94994845
adachi knew the exact same thing would happen with namatame throwing in whoever was on the midnight channel
what even changed
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>>94994845
Yeah, but how did he know Nanako would be the next one to show up on the midnight channel?

He sent the first warning letter quite a bit of time before she showed up, and only her voice appeared on TV (and if I'm not mistaken, it did so a bit after you received the first warning letter).
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>>94994434
>Naoko
who's this
DLC waifu?
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>>94994237
Inaba is small enough to identify one little girl in a matter of hours, but not small enough for details about a creepy detective calling out to high school girls and spending the night at the scene of a crime to go anywhere for months.
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>>94995070
A Nanako + Naoto fusion fan character
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>>94993914
Sure, why not.
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>>94995065
The first letter just said "stop saving people"
he didnt knew yet
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>>94995065
Adachi had no clue who would be put in next. He just threatened to kill someone outside of Namatame's usual pattern.
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>>94993786
Teddie was in VR because Yu was worried about him and summoned him on his own. Igor even said that.
Nanako revives for no reason because she was killed by a fog of lies and the IT reached to the truth hard enough to dispel it
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>>94994762
Maybe he didn't know. I think he might have just been fucking with Yu. Or he knew who it was because I think Nanako's picture was in the paper though not on TV. Naoto says something about this while running to Yu's house.
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>>94995541
Yeah, this didn't happen. She recovers even if they toss Namatame in.

She revives for literally no reason other than 'her 6 year old body was strong enough to recover from her heart flatlining'.
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>>94995274
this sounds about right, since even though adachi was using namatame as a tool to put people in without getting his hands dirty, adachi was still really close with dojima and nanako would answer the doorbell for him

really though all of P4 was just coincidences like that, and like how adachi only used his powers from izanami after yu came to the town, and how adachi just happened to push the two people from the midnight channel in by coincidence after yu came to inaba
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>>94995682
>She recovers even if they toss Namatame in.
What? She doesn't.
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>>94995682
>Yeah, this didn't happen. She recovers even if they toss Namatame in.
She dies for good in the worst ending
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>>94995757
She comes back to life, but she's still in the hospital by Spring.
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>>94995682
She stays in coma if you don't find the killer, finding out Namatame is innocent is not reaching out to the truth hard enough. You only get a half of it.
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>>94995751
>and like how adachi only used his powers from izanami after yu came to the town

He didn't had any powers before Yu came to town moron
How would he push people? Also, he only figured about it by accident, Izanami never came and said HEY YOU CAN PUSH PEOPLE ON THE TV NOW
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>>94995103
>identify one little girl in a matter of hours
kek
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what is the biggest plot hole in persona
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>>94996039
What contract did Yu sign?
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>>94996039
Only one type of physical attacks but still the same amount of physical attacks
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>>94996039
Where does Piercey get the time to play all those games?
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>>94995935
What the fuck are you on? Adachi got his powers when Izanami shook his hand. He already knew shit could go through the TV before he attacked Yamano.
>so people can go all the way through, huh?
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>>94995935
adachi was in the town long before Yu was moron, and Izanami talked like she gave him and namatame the TV powers the exact same way she gave them to yu, with a handshake at the gas station when they came into inaba

the only explanation would be that their powers were dormant until all 3 had been given out, but that still doesn't explain that he just happened to kill the two people on the midnight channel before namatame gave him the phone call, except by coincidence
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>>94996113
He promised Teddie to solve the case.
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>>94996113
2 contracts. 1st with Igor to figure out what's happening, 2nd with Teddie to catch the killer
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>>94996113
wasn't it to reach the truth or something like that?
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>>94996164
he speedruns everything he plays
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>>94996113
"I chooseth to be a colossal faggot of mine own free will."
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>>94996039
How was Ryuji let into Gekkoukan if it's supposed to be a private school?
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>>94996381
It's not a choice, faggot. He was born that way.
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>>94996410
same reason Aigis was let in
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>>94996164
who?
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>>94994762
It wasn't just her voice being on TV, the article with the politician going to her school in the newspaper predated it and her identity had gotten out by the time of the kidnapping
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>>94996509
He was a robot?
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>>94996509
pretty sure aigis got in because kirijo owns the school
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>>94996509
Mitsuru let him in?
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>>94996410
same answer to every P3 plothole
"the kirijo group did it"
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>>94996410
Death powers
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>>94996509
Aigis was able to with Mitsuru and the chairman's help.

Ryuji just walked in.
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>>94996602
They didn't even knew him by then.
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>>94996602
Why would she let him get in the school so easily like that? No one bothered to check his (non existant) background? Gekkoukan ain't supposed to be a pretty fancy school?
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>>94996772
>>94996776
I think the point he was making is that Mitsuru letting Ryoii into the school was not feasible, and it was the only reason aigis got in
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>>94996410
something something death
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>>94996410
With his death-powered charm, the same way every girl in the class fell in love with him
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>>94996410
It was meant to be
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>>94996776
How did Chihiro and Junpei got in anyway? Both are poor and Junpei is dumb.
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>>94996905
the sees girls brushed him off though

maybe building a resistance to the dark hour's tiring effects also builds resistance to death's shadowy mind control powers

there is absolutely no reason for us to discuss this so deeply
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>>94996992
They're poor because of the school payments
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>>94996776
He had a solid background though
Besides lmao death
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>>94997054
>there is absolutely no reason for us to discuss this so deeply
but you guys love beating Persona 4 for its 'plotholes' :^)
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>>94996992
Life savings?
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Ok faggots listen up
Im level 53 and I am redoing Mitsuo's dungeon

Is level 60 a good level to be aiming at for Naoto's?
I heard of this guy that got to level 70 before going in
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>>94997307
I don't think anybody here defends ikutsuki's motivation.
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>>94997307
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8
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>>94997293
>He had a solid background though
uhhh which one?

>>94997430
>I don't think anybody here defends ikutsuki's motivation.
I seen some gu
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>>94997307
Persona 4 has no plot holes
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>>94997390
Shadow Naoto is 55
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>>94997430
goddamnit 4chan

i've seen some guys defending Ikutsuki and trying to rationalize his plan here before.

>>94997469
>Persona 4 has no plot holes
How the fox had babies if she's the only one in town HUH HUH
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>>94997460
His parents were oil magnates who lived overseas or something
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>>94997596
immaculate conception
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>>94996039
If Gekkoukan is such a fancy private school, how in the world did they admit a neanderthal who would leave a cigarette butt in the boy's bathroom?
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>>94997596
>How the fox had babies if she's the only one in town HUH HUH
All things are possible with the power of the yen
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>>94997390
most people don't remember what level they were in on all the bosses. also, you should say what difficulty you're playing.

There's no reason for you to ask this here, though, since on P4 (unlike P3) you can just go back and grind a bit if you think you're too weak. Just try it out and judge it yourself.

>>94997596
>i've seen some guys defending Ikutsuki and trying to rationalize his plan here before.
that's sad if they weren't baiting, that is
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>>94997596
she bought them online with all the money you showered her
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>>94996776
Ikutsuki could have had an influence.
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If I start playing P1 now can I finish it until monday?
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>>94996039
How Marie and Teddie have jobs with pay despite not only looking like foreigners but having no background whatsoever.Also, the doctors didn't want to keep Teddie in the hospital after seeing that nothing shows up on his x-rays yet it's obvious he has bones in his human body if you touch him. and finally, how the hell doujima doesn't bother asking how the fuck they managed to find and capture Adachi or link him to the murders at all. On the persona 3 side, How did Yukari deal with babysitting the socially ignorant Aigis during her 3rd year of high school? Surely somebody must of tried to ask Aigis out, surely someone would of wondered why Aigis never shows up to change into gym clothes or why she never eats or drinks.
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Why is P2 so much fun? It's like a less shitty Devil Survivor with characters that you don't hate immediately.
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>>94998201
>finally, how the hell doujima doesn't bother asking how the fuck they managed to find and capture Adachi or link him to the murders at all
Have you ever played the game you dingus
Adachi confessed everything and gave himself away.
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>>94998201
Teddie is the managers sons boyfriend who is living with them. Its easy to see how he got a job at Junes.
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>>94998201
There's a million excuses you could come up with for Aigis. Teddie not as much.
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>>94996039
Why didn't Naoto set up video surveillance when she was kidnapped?
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which waifu is most likely to take part in a MMF threesome
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>>94998447
rise duh
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>>94998447
Yukiko
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>>94997596
i thought ikutsuki's motivation was he was fucking crazy. like, not trying to "rationalize" it or whatever, i just thought that was why

note: this is a bad motivation for a dumb plot twist

>>94998447
chie or rise
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>>94998201
Marie doesn't look foreigner and it's a fucking goddess, she just made herself avaliable i guess. Teddie works for Yosuke's father as his friend and he's just a mascot receiving topsicle money

The doctors assumed the x-ray machine was broken and told him to come another day or to go to another hospital. He just never did.

Adachi confessed.
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>>94998447
Fuuka, if being raped count, of course
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>>94998494
yukiko would probably do it as well
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>>94998447
Kanji
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>>94998404
I like how yosuke and teddie embraced their obvious gayness in the p4g epilogue with yosuke wearing a pink shirt that shows off a lot of collar, and teddie wearing something that shows off even more and has goddamn straps underneath
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>>94998201
Dojima got suspicious of Adachi when he choked, and knew Yu was close to Adachi
>>
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>>94998447
Yukiko's shadow is literally yelling for dicks.
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>>94998201
Why did Marie had to "spy" on humans to know what they want when Izanami and other gods or whatever are created from humans desire? She also had entire Collective unconscious for that. Why did the IT have to prove themselves to Ameno when Marie should've passed to Izanami that humans are cool by then.
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>>94998642
Yosuke might be a fag but he's not the woman of their relationship. Also Teddie is a beautiful girl, he needs a bra
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>>94998895
Boss Izanami was Marie's equivalent of a shadow. She couldn't accept the side of her that hated humanity after Izanagi blew her off for them. They were at odds with each other and Marie had no powers.
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>>94998895
every plothole with marie can be answered with "Marie's a shit"

she was forced all over the game and the story, of course that left thousands of plot holes
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>>94999036
That explains nothing at all
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>>94998895
Marie is shit
Everything about Marie is shit
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physical or download copy of golden
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>>94999168
Exactly.
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>>94999227
for the vita it really doesn't matter, other than vita memory cards being expensive
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>>94999227
doesn't matter
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>>94999227
I go digital for everything because i'm a lazy shit who likes having his library at the touch of a button.
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>>94999227
Psychical doesn't take up space on your memory card
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>>94999227
I have the physical version and it comes with absolutely nothing besides the case (as most games nowadays, sadly), so if that's the reason you're considering it, just download it.
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>>94999227
Play the canon game. Golden is for fags.
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>>94999843
But Golden is as canon as it gets.
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>>94999843
yeah I'm sure fes is also noncanon :^)
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>>94999892
>>94999908
Fuck you marie fags!
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>>94999843
Marie a shit but canon
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>>95000159
marie is shit but that has nothing to do with the fact that golden just has more stuff, like her, that's been in spinoffs like Q and arena
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I know the biggest plot hole in P4, the only one that has no honest justification (like the naoto surveillance camera one that would break the plot, or Marie being tacked on)

I've never seen it brought up here and I'm never going to because P4 gets beaten around enough while P3 gets a free ride
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>>95000368
>i hav a sekrit i'm not gonna tell u
do you expect anyone to fall for that
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>>95000446
What would they be falling for
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>>94999908
FES isn't canon. At least The Answer isn't.
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>>95000368
Evangelion and its clones will always get a free pass in the public eye critically speaking. Decades of arguments come near solely from waifus(with a bit of "X was right" baiters).
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>>95000368
Just post it faggot, you aren't fooling anyone and if you have something I'm sure it's been brought up before
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>>95000175
>>95000259
NO. anything with marie in it is Non canon and anyone who likes that shit should wake up and join in my protest to get atlus to write golden out of canon along with Labrys and Sho.
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This is canon
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>>95000639
>>95000759
I love you.
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>>95000759
Hey you leave labrys out of that she's cool
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>>95000827
This is also canon.
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>>95000368
we talked quite a bit about P3's plot holes in this thread as well.
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>>95000827
>>95000974
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>>95000846
Valentine's day was 5 days ago

Do you even care about this relationship anymore?!
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>>95000897
Fucking mary sue bitch gets to be aigis sister, gets to be stronger than aigis, gets her own metis that sticks around, gets to be great friends with the casts of both p3 and p4 with very little interaction, gets to solo the last boss even through it took Yu and Adachi's Izanagi's to kill it as per the story said it would. No fuck that, she needs to go just as bad as Marie does. Its' the only way for the stories of either games to have any fucking dignity left in their stories.
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>>95001403
Labrys isn't the best written character ever, but she gets a pass from most people because she wasn't inserted into the original game, and she's not really overdesigned. Being a new character in a spinoff is a less damning offense than being a new character in an enhanced re-release of a game.
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>>95001641
She's not a new character from the spin-off though. She was in the P3 drama CD's.
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>>95000974
FeMC and Aigis going dress shopping together!
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Cute!
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>>95001641
>>95001721
God shut up. You remind me of the mariefags. always looking for excuses, always saying "but" Enough.
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>>95001960
You are!
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>>95001721
I didn't know that. Which is probably a testament to how little it matters.

>>95002035
What?
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For positive thinking
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>>95002262
Kill yourself.
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>>95002262
None of that here, pal.
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>>95002262
You're just like my dad.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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