/elyg/ - Elysium WoW General

i wish madti was my mommy...

>>188082179
>>WoD models (Drop the MPQ in your data folder, and don't post screenshots and get banned retard):
>http://www.mediafire.com/file/igrn28dw2r9qghr/patch-5.mpq

Anyone got a screenshot of how these models look?

fug reposting

so my dudes I haven't been playing for 6 months or so any dank addons or anything I should know about? also can someone give me a quick rundown on this supposed BC server?

>>188082436
>Dindus of Nuffin reformed into WWD. Raiding UBRS and pugging MC currently. 120 members and ~25 60s. Raids start at 10-11pm GMT, mostly weekends.

don't fall for this

>>188082179
how much DKP did this raid give

>>188082436
Don't believe their lies.

>>188082179
So many new people to gank.

>>188082179
is it too late to join and become dindu clique?

>it took them a Sunday evening to get a guild ubrs going

rofl

>>188082828
>Sunday evening

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>>188082436
>so my dudes I haven't been playing for 6 months or so any dank addons or anything I should know about? also can someone give me a quick rundown on this supposed BC server?
Most addons depend on your class, but universal ones that are cool are like URLcopy, maybe pvp soundpack addons (I have an Unreal Tournament one), lazypig is the single most based addon ever as well.

There isn't going to be a TBC server specifically, at least not at first. The "fresh TBC" will actually just be Anathema transitioning to TBC after they finish Naxx in the next few months. But tbqh that shit won't happen till at least mid next year. Nobody knows how far along in testing they really are but there's a reason the Crestfall folks merged back into Elysium's development team again.

Just play on Elysium, both guilds are fun. Once TBC drops you can make a belf or draenei then.

>>188082828
>Sunday evening
anon

>>188082823
just offer to lick sniffhow's toes that'll get you in no problem

>>188083267
should i go horde or alliance on Elysium

holy shit
https://pastebin.com/gDFRQ1Ak

>>188083494
Whatever faction you want, both are fun. I have characters in both /vg/ guilds and both are helpful and have people who are cool to play with.

If you want to raid then that'll affect your class choice as the different guilds/factions need different things.

>>188083494
Horde if your NA (but shouldn't matter since it will be weekend raiding). Alliance if your tranny.

Also, alliance is all filled.. You'll have more opportunity horde-side.

>>188082545
Minus 50

Wait, is Kelevran in Mandate? Do we have an actual e-celeb in our guild?

>>188084243
who the fuck is kelevran? must not be much of a celebrity.

>>188084607
You may better know him by the names Asscobra or Ezeke. He's the legendary scat poster of /wpsg/, and the leader of countless guilds.

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WHAT THE FUCK? WHY IS DINDUS CLEARING UBRS? GLASTON GUARANTEED THAT THEY'D FUCKING FAIL LONG BEFORE THEY COULD EVEN GET A KEY TOGETHER, GOD WE LOOK LIKE GIANT FUCKING FAGGOTS FOR NEVER BEING ABLE TO EVEN DO THAT.

THIS IS SOME FUCKING BULLSHIT, I DIDN'T PAY HANDRO IN FOOTPICS FOR THEM TO SUCCEED. THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT

>>188084885
pay me in footpics and i will make them crash and burn

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>Dindus are literally raiding

wtf how do we stop them?

>>188085074
they better be sniffhow feet or you're garbage

Marboth here with a public announcment.

I wanna fucking kill myself.

>>188086862
why

>>188055860
you're an idiot. use low rank consecs to not waste mana. If you aren't using consecration when taking down more than 3 enemies you are a fucking idiot

>>188086862
No...

>>188082179
>Raids start at 10-11pm GMT, mostly weekends
The middle of the fucking day during the weekend? I thought you guys were the opposite of MoH. I hope that's fake.
I don't get how in two guilds full of people with literally nothing to do besides play WoW, you choose the worst possible times to raid. You could do fucking 2am and that would be less shit.
West coast: Basically your whole entire day revolves around the raid.
East coast: Raid at fucking dinner time until like 9 or 10pm. "sorry i can't hang out, gotta raid every faggot weekend at dinner time because these eu gaylords can't stay up late even tho they have absolutely no obligations besides farming soulshards"
Complete fucking faggots, all of you. Seriously Tucker is the least deranged and he's a goddamn junkie.

>>188086862
Go to sleep Marb, it will be ok tommorow.

>>188087374
there'll be some midweek ones similar to mandate but since it'll prob be at a later more reasonable hour the yurops won't be coming

as i understand americans never make it to the MoH midweek raids similarly

its a lose lose situation anon

what does dindus need? How do I insert myself into the clique

>>188087719
Should make dindus NA completely, the euros already have mandate and don't give a fuck about NA times as they've stated more than once.
I'm willing to bet that the euros in dindus are primarily memesters and no one likes them.

>>188087769
durids always durids

>>188087381
Thats the main problem. I'd like to go too slerp. But I stll got like 9 more hours of work ahead of me.

>>188087769
druids

to get in the clique become a good drawfag like protomaan was

>>188087023
If you have the mana for it, sure. Most paladins don't stack int while questing.
It's not good damage for the mana and a paladin that doesn't stack int will still oom using rank1.
If grinding with holy shield, etc then it's decent as all the little damage adds up. But a paladin in str/stam/agil dropping consecration makes no sense, faster to just kill each thing one by one.
If a paladin was going int in the first place (which is funner anyhow if you ask me but whatever) then definitely consecrate is useful.

Also stop being such a fucking shitty person on an anon forum. Golden rule, my dude. It isn't that hard. It's ok to disagree without resorting to outing yourself as an insufferable cunt.

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>>188087950
everyone is a memester in WWD

literally, lol

but aside from zugzuggler the euros are no different from the americans

>>188088119
are trannies allowed? Can I be dindus first tranny

>>188087769
the other 2 people already said druids so besides that another mage or holy priest would be cool

>>188088310
as long as you dont blogpost like tucker nobody cares

>>188087950
I don't, they're fuckin rude. Why are you eurocucks so goddamn irritable?

>>188088310
>Can I be dindus first tranny
But that's sniffyhow!

>>188088280
>Loeiz is above normal members

HAHAHAHA

>>188088730
he's a good healer

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I really wish the guild wasn't called dindus, it's so fucking cancerous

>>188087950

>man dates is all euro

no wonder they're all feminized faggots, they need some burgers to put those numales in line.

>>188088419
do you need/want a shaman? I have no friends but have a 50 something shaman.

>>188088894
no less cancerous than anything else desu. kill yourself you fucking faggot.

>>188088894
Whoever came up with the guild name should kill himself.

>>188088929
if you're willing to heal then definitely, we need more healers

we have a few shaman but at least half of those are >enhancement or >elemental like crabberson so there's definitely a spot

>>188088958
No a lot of things would be considerably less cancerous than an outdated /pol/ meme

>>188088894
Go alliance then normie

>>188089010
Handro did, at least the original dindus and he did kill himself. I like the name as a memento of when we rid ourselves of the cancer that was that dude.

>>188088929
>do you need/want a shaman? I have no friends but have a 50 something shaman.
W-we'll be your friends anon :3

>>188089060
>b-but /pol/
Shut up faggot, and as long as black history revisionism exists so will this meme.

>>188089197
I'm talking about the retard who decided to name the guild fucking <We Wuz Dindus> after he had the chance to give the guild a real fucking name.

>>188089131
>Mandate of Heaven

this is unironically the worst /vg/ name i've ever heard

who the FUCK came up with that fucking chinese tier name

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>>188089197
I didnt kill myself
Still here rooting for WWD to raid

>>188089324
>chinese tier name

Lol

>>188089056
>enhance
>elemental
Ok nevermind, not going to bother. Good luck.

>>188089324
>he doesnt know

>>188089421
Fuck off you attention whoring shit-skin. Day of the rope soon nigger.

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>>188089324

>>188089324
I've had guildies in my normie guild who were convinced MoH was a chink guild. That's how much it sounds like a chinese guild name (maybe that was the intention). It doesn't help that interacting with a random MoH member in the wild is about as productive as interacting with a chink.

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>>188089556
Keep going strong guys!

>>188089514
none of them are raiding with us, only zug who is resto

>>188089324
>what is irony

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>chinese guilds have their ranks just as numbers

further proof that east asians are just robots

>>188090167
lel

>>188090093
the joke ceases to be funny when legitimate mixups happen >>188089694

even Trandate of Heaven would've been an better name

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Hi :>

>>188090167

>robots

robots improve humanity anon. chinks are locusts: insects that ruin anything that they come into contact with

>Can't decide what race to make my priest.

HELP

>>188090303
that was the point.

>>188090397
mage troll

>my main is a paladin
>i feel like leveling another paladjn

Is this a bad idea? Should I level it on the anime realm?

>>188090397

undead, troll, dwarf

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>>188090363
>robots improve humanity anon. chinks are locusts: insects that ruin anything that they come into contact with
I wonder who could be behind this post...

>>188090397
troll shadowpriest is LITERALLY patrician

>>188090397
night elf

>>188090531
Are you stupid?

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when does the hypnotic blade get updated to get +spell dmg
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=7714

>>188090531
don't do that

>>188090397
LITERALLY ANYTHING BUT NIGHT ELF OR HUMAN

>>188090958
DON'T BELIEVE HIS LIES

>>188090397
male night elf, shadowpriest

>>188091039
right NOW

>>188091296
but it doesn't what the heck? :DDD

>>188090397
go dwarf if you're a try hard and can't secure a raidspot without fear ward because you're shit

the best healers are always human or nightelf
check this out
#1 human
#2 nightelf
#8 dwarf
https://legacy-logs.com/Vanilla/Raids/Evaluation/Healing/index.php?rid=18500&attempts=2160249,2160254,2160255,2160259,2160267,2160270,2160275,2160284,2160293,2160299&player=&sel=0&pet=0&tarid=&mode=0

>>188090397
Night elf.
Shadowmeld at the horde FP in felwood.
Mind control them off the cliff. They'll spawn at the darkshore GY and need to ghost run 15 minutes back.
No amount of fear ward is worth how much fun you'd have doing this.

>>188091430
>healing meters
>loot funneling clique council guild

>>188091710
you don't need shadowmeld to do that

>>188088419
I kind of doubt you're hurting for them, but what about warlocks or hunters? Or rogues?
Leaning hunter since I've never played one. Or warrior but I'm alone and have never tanked and get annoyed when dps warriors won't tank.

>>188091710
This is your average night elf player everyone. Would rather spend their time greifing horde than anything else. In fact I was just in winterspring and there was a nelf rogue hiding in one of the houses, just out of reach of the bruisers so they could stunlock whoever walked in.

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>>188091430
>trannies
>actively hinder their group by playing feminine races for no reason other than being faggots
>think healing meters are an actual metric of skill unironically
>literally cat fish guys all the time
>constant drama
>clique council

Can someone remind me why people raid with this guild? Is it some sort of cuckold fetish?

>>188089131
>you're a normie if you don't name your guild after racist /pol/ memes

>>188092864
>new IP

every time

>>188092982
get a load of this guy not sitting at his PC spam refreshing all day every day.

>>188092842
>Can someone remind me why people raid with this guild?

They clear raid content quickly unlike every other 4chan guild on this server

They may be shitstirring drama whores but they got all of BWL in first weekend.

>>188088280
Why is Glaston's name Artie in that discord

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>>188092864

Marboth here with another public announcment.

Life is better after a cup of coffie.

>>188093529
It better be black coffee you fucking faggot.

>>188093253

why even be in a /vg/ guild if all you care about is succesfully raidlogging? I raided with moh and muted discord it was so fucking cancerous. with a normie guild now that does the content just as fast, but there's no "ironic" tranny attentionwhores shitting up the raid.

>>188092842
>Can someone remind me why people raid with this guild?
It was the only /vg/ guild and a lot of people got suckered into providing the clique with loot. Some of those even got tricked by the literal homosexuals luring underage dudes.
Some just need a safe space to spam nigger and can't control themselves in any environment that isn't as forgiving as /vg/, and since MoH was the only option - there you go. And once you're gearing up at 60 it's a hard choice to reroll or otherwise start over and only the neetest of neets consider that in vanilla.
Most of the normie players have long since left anyhow, either to a different guild, different character, or quit altogether. Some were banking on gummy and never returned.

You have a point, anyone that is still in MoH with full knowledge of how cucked they are is indeed into it at this point. They may not have been at first but now they love it and will do anything to make sure their wife gets dicked down appropriately, hopefully getting lewd text messages hinting at a condom break.

>>188093891
>>188092842
how autistic do you have to be to unironically give the slightest of shits about loot

>>188092864
die die die nigger die die die nigger die nigger die nigger die nigger nigger die

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Gnome or dwarf rogue?

>>188093972
It's not about whether or not I care about loot. I care about the progression of the guild. If that means loot goes to other players then that's fine. But the clique council actively hinders guild progression in order to give trannies and cliquefags loot over good players.

lads what do I roll

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

THE TRANNIES KEEP CLEARING BWL WHILE WE WIPE IN UBRS


STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP STOP IT RIGHT NOW AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I'M A MENTALLY ILL DWARF REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I NEED TO SPLINTER MY GUILD AGAIN

>>188094598
troll

>Zugzuggler is deemed too mentally unstable even for a tranny guild and gets kicked from MoH
>rerolls Horde and manages to splinter the Horde guild upon reaching 60

pottery

>>188094940
horde suck weiners

>>188094598
Do you want to be a cute little girl or a cute shortstack lady.

NOOOOOOOOOO YOU FUCKING TRANNIES, STOP HAVING FUN WITHOUT ME RIGHT NOW, STOP CLEARING BWL WITHOUT WIPING
YOUR ALL TRANNIES TRANNIES TRANNIES LOKTAR LOKTAR LOKTAR

IT'S NOT FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIR REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>188094738
Hit a nerve huh?

what is the best cast bar addon?

Daily reminder that retail is better.

is there a casting bar addon that shows the spell icon when you cast?

>>188095837
average moh tranny lmfao

are paladin tanks a thing on this server because I'm looking at one with all kind of defense gear and I don't know if I should be autistically smug

>>188095919
yes

>>188095967
so hows that work

>>188095874
TRANNY TRANNY LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU

>>188096062
it doesn't

>>188096062
hit things and block with a shield

>>188092110
>I kind of doubt you're hurting for them, but what about warlocks or hunters? Or rogues?
WAYYYYY too many warlocks

if you had to roll one of those roll hunter or rogue, we did UBRS with only 2 physical dps lol, my alt is a hunter and it's pretty fun desu wish i'd played it sooner, rogue is unparalleled for wpvp though so whatever floats your boat

>>188096102
oh fug rolling shaman tank brb

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>>188093271
lol

also check dads' name

>>188096162
Sweet, I'm sold.
Orc hunter here I come.

>>188093972
>how autistic do you have to be to unironically give the slightest of shits about loot
1. loot should go to whoever deserves it and also who it would help most to make guild progress, not whoever the people in charge decide

those are often different things

2. if i don't get a single piece of loot after like 3-4 raids i'm going to sperg the fuck out

did anyone screenshot Loeiz greeting Madti in MC /1 today?

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>>188093613
Raidlogging is bad but it gives the guild something to do. If you don't raid as a guild at 60 then there's really no point in playing.

This is what happened to Dindus, 60s wanted to raid but they were too busy shitposting on /elyg/ to get to 60 or get pre raid bis. So the guild died.

You either have raidlogging or a dead guild.

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>>188096356

>>188096474
>loot should go to whoever deserves it and also who it would help most to make guild progress, not whoever the people in charge decide
MoH's loot council has never been a true loot council, they have barely any understanding of stat values when they assign loot in the first place. It's always been used as a way to gear their friends or gear whoever is going to whine the loudest.

>>188096551
>Loeiz desperately trying to get attention in mc general chat
>he's in fucking MC even though his guild isn't raiding
>short time later he's doing the same in ony /1
why is he orbiting us so hard?

>set realmlist 164.132.233.125

Why does this work but not the official IP?

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>>188082179
I played wotlk on AT a couple yrs ago and some cata on Molten. Other than that I don't have any WoW experience. I always wanted to try Vanilla tho. Should I try? I am scared of spending too much time on a memegame.

I'm about to roll alliance, what specs are needed most for the guild?

>Barrens chat: "NIGGERS NIGGERS TRUMP AYYY LMAOOO WHERE IS MANDRICKS WIFE HAHAA"
>STV chat: "WAAAAAAH I GOT GANKED SOMEONE HELP ME Q.Q"

which is worst chat

>>188097186
desu barrens is just one big edge contest

who's worse on voice, dads or neksi?

>>188097610
dads no contest. has a massive ego for someone so dogshit it makes no sense.

>>188082238
I can't believe madti is an old hag

>>188097924
I wonder how mad loiez was that he got outed as zug. He left the thread for days, and barely talked in guildchat.
Why did handro out him? Was it malicious?

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anyone got a pre-raid bis list for mages for the current Elysium patch?

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hmm..

do battlegrounds regularly pop? does one faction dominate the other?

>>188098432
He died, dude.

>>188098432
he died, you fucking faggot

>>188098432
that mc 2 weeks ago made it fairly obvious they're the same person
does manlett have the balls to kick him?

>>188098432
she got pregnant you fucking bigot

>>188098720
>>188098779
>>188098931

Puddi, judgement day is coming

>>188098432
>>188098997
I know shitposting is commonplace here but I also thought we held ourselves to better standards than this.

>>188093335
>>188094185
I feel very uncomfortable and scared on 4chan, this site is pretty spooky and my Reddit brethren told me this place is really really edgy. It scares me but I really want to be a cool 4channer... s-so here goes nothing...

n-nigger.....

>be blood DK in legion
>get fucked out of gear for the last time
>create elysium account

>being camped by two 60s
>they keep riding out of sight then riding back trying to catch me rezzing
I'm not sure what I did to piss them off, it's been 30 minutes and they're still bouncing around my corpse. Some level 17 even just whispered me to call me a pussy while I was taking a shit.
Not really bitching, just seems really odd and kind of overboard as far as trying so hard for a reaction.

>>188099424
>Play Elysium
>Realize the server is shit, especially with the bullshit draw distance.
>Go back to retail.

Feels good

please tell me someone recorded xandor before ony today

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>>188090167
fucking racist

>>188090167
Honestly a better system.

Everyone here would be a 10.

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Ok
starting out as a druid

...
where are my heirlooms

>>188099747
the brapti meme stops right now or it's beatdown time! she obviously hates it and we don't need people quitting just because xandor feels the need to exhale too many jokes

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>>188100131

>>188100319
dont you get a weird format when you do that?

>>188100378
thats not what I meant by weird format

>>188100378
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good post

>playing with social outcasts put into a position where they can pump their egos to a level where they forget about the big bad world outside their basement
If you do this then cry about not getting any loot because the faggots are trying to roleplay highschool clique in their late 20s you should probably just quit

>pull 2 spiders
>die
holy shit

Madti here
I love the brapti meme

>>188097172
Bumperino

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>>188097172
>>188101583
but wrath and beyond was the meme game

vanilla was the real experience which is why we're all still here among thousands others

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*blocks your path*
wat do?

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>>188103729
*slowly pulls sword out of sheathe*

Forgive me master....

Just this once....

I must go all out.....

*dashes at you*

>>188102585
With memegane I mean WoW. I swore to myself to never waste my time like that again and at most play shit like the Witcher, Shadow of Mordor etc...but I crave some dwarf action.

Does Vanilla have arena pvp?

>>188105190
Nope. Only BGs.
Also, if you are playing videogames, you are already wasting your time. Might as well waste it on a game you are having fun with, doesnt matter if its some russian private server for chinks of a decade+ old game.

>>188082179
how to farm darnasus reputation at 60?
>inb4 cloth

>>188105190
>Does Vanilla have arena pvp?
only in the STV and Dire Maul arenas

still lots of world pvp to be had though, which is more fun anyways

>>188105841
AV turn ins

also doesn't alliance have a similar thing with morrowgrain turn ins for thunder bluff?

>>188106892
i have the mystery of morrowgrain but i see its a bitch to complete
what is AV

>>188107727
its a repeatable quest

>whats AV
alterac valley

if you loot opposing faction players' corpses for the items they drop you can turn those in for rep rewards, 10 per

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So... Mending was Pudding?

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This just in guys
Sniffhow has been kicked from the clique
More news at 11....

>>188108918
>new ip

lol

>>188089324
le sneaky kiwi man rigged the poll

>>188109747
what were the other options?

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>the <CN United> guild tabard is a heart

d'awww

i almost feel bad reporting his gold spam brethren ;^(

>>188110032
Dark Iron Dads, No Boys Allowed, Ironforge Bridge Crew, Weaponized Autism, Anime, Anti Bully Ranger Squad.

>>188110378
some of those aint bad desu

who is the aforementioned kiwi man?

>>188110359
China is friend not foe!

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Probably the wrong place to ask, but how is Lordaeron in Warmane? New to WoW, am sorta interested in Elysium but the lack of add ons are pretty sad.

LEVEL 60 ALLIANCES ATTACKING GROMGOL BASE CAMP ON ELYSIUM FUCKING HELP ME HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP

I WANT TO GET MY QUESTS, HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP

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>>188110809
>but the lack of add ons are pretty sad.
wat

>>188090531
are u autistic

>>188110809
WHat? Theres a ton of vanilla ddons. Anyways I played there for a while and its not really worth it, at least not now. Low pop, multiboxers, progressed to ICC. Besides that scripting was decent.

>>188094598
Gnomes are fucking ugly and a meme. Dwarf is master race.

>>188099747
*breathes*

>>188091039
naxx

>>188110840
They were camping the horde everlook fp too, I really want to know what goes through their heads.

>>188110917
On another note, how slow is the EXP in comparison to Lordaeron? It's 1x WOTLK if that helps.

>Theres a ton of vanilla ddons
Must be looking in the wrong areas. I'll look more. Vanilla is pre-TBC, right?

>multiboxers
So botting?

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>>188108518
Doubtful

>>188091430
>healing meter posting
>in just one guild full of people rolling alliance for the female character models and not for racials
anyway racials really dont matter that much unless ur a dwarf cuz fear ward is really op for your raids/premades
just roll what u like the most

>>188110809
Vanilla has a ton of addons now. Most things have been backported, makes it way easier than retail vanilla.

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>>188111026
>Vanilla is pre-TBC, right?

>>188111026
Well its wrath exp gain so you get it quick. Funny thing is that they had rdf disabled at launch, don't know if they've added it for the patch since or not, so you can't really powerlevel by dungeons. And its not really botting, its someone cloning themselves so theres like 6 and they just rape you to death, One of the reasons I quit there.

>>188111260
TBC is a expansion, so I'm guessing when people say vanilla they mean before TBC. Why the Taylor Meme face?

can anyone direct me to a guide for fishing that doesnt assume i will be using pools?

>>188110359
where did this souless chink meme come from? Most chink players dont speak english so how could they even express their feelings half the time.

>>188110378
why not <GELKIS CLAN HS FOOTBALL> ?

>>188094598
gnome is nice for fighting mages if thats ur thing
but stoneform is god tier for rogue v rogue since you can stoneform the blind, or getting rid of warrior bleeds to restealth quicker
so choose what u like more

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>>188111471
>flashback of the brutal /pol/ chinese webm threads

I-I dont know, a-anon.

>>188096062
Seal of righteousness
consecration
righteous fury

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>Im sick and tired of this game
>Dont know what else to play

>>188111471
I'm surrounded by chinks all day. They are the kind of people that would watch someone get stabbed in the street and keep walking without so much as even considering calling for help.

But don't take my word for it, >>188111660 go into one of these threads and watch as they pass by a toddler who was just ran over by a car as if it didn't even happen. Or go read that business Anons stories about how their culture revolves around scamming each other for every last dime they possibly can weasel out of you while putting in as little effort as possible.

>>188112152
>culture revolves around scamming people

as crazy as the rest of the story sounds this is the truest thing Ive read

>>188112267
There are routinely threads about how disgusting chinks are in chink specific gore threads on /gif/. I'm sure there's probably one up right now. I'm not making anything up. They infest everything like locusts, destroy markets, and are all soulless sociopaths.

>>188112594
welcome to what 5 decades of athiest socialism into athiest captialism will do to a society. they weren't always soulless insectoids, before the cultural revolution they were fine.

>it's a trade chat circle jerks over muh feminism like pseudo-intellectuals episode

make it stop

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Do you know a good TBC database site?

>>188112874
Gumm-

>>188112775
>>188112594
>>188112152
>>188111660
>>/pol/

>>188113374

>>/africa/

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>>188113374
>>/communist terrorist/

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everything is pointless.

>>188113374
>introducing capitalism into a communist society destroys it and vice versa
its almost as if Communism is the sole reason for the existence of gold sellers

>>188114416
I agree. Life and this game feel pointless to me also. I have no drive to do anything IRL or in game.

>>188114480
>>188113937
>>188113625
>its another self hating white boy episode that believes everything he sees online while he scrambles frantically to recover his own self worth by shitting on other people instead of improving himself
I bet you guys think jews control the world and that white genocide is real

>>188114724
You dislike this person because deep down inside you dislike yourself?????
wut the fuck are you smoking

>>188112980
wat

>>188114827
nice rebuttal friendo, stay delusional. Just because you saw a few emotional webms and pictures over the internet. Keep clinging to that fact that you want to be part of something bigger than yourself while you inherently hate yourself. Who are you kidding bucko? You're literally posting in a vanilla wow private server.

>>188114724
Not an argument.

>>188116674
keep appealing to emotion uneducated braindead poltard

>>188112046

Real life. Imagine that.

>>188116749
Unfortunately this post is also not an argument.

>>188116927
and your argument is? A couple meme photos that were poorly cropped to represent 1.3 billion people. Really shows how stupid you are. Also

>The President of the National Center on Education and the Economy said of the results "the United States cannot long operate a world-class economy if our workers are, as the OECD statistics show, among the worst-educated in the world"
really makes you think doesnt it? Oh wait, I forgot how blatantly retarded you are because couple gore threads = 1.3 billion people

>>188117280
I literally live in china my man.

I know that there's a lot of ganking in STV but is it always as bad as it is right now or is it less cancerous at certain times of the day? There seems to be 2-3 alliance 60s in every spot around Grom'Gol.

>>188117383
nice dude, now you're telling me you're going to prove me wrong with your multiple personal accounts to disapprove actual statistics. Based retard

>>188117280
Looks like a chink got mad at something chink related, just like the forums, where if you bring up gold selling youll get spammed by chinks calling you a racist of some sort, depends on the day

>>188117383
t-that doesn't mean ANYTHING you fucking racist

all the chinks in my american upper middle class neighborhood are very nice people when I say hi to them in the morning!

>>188117573
Link some chinese crime rates, I'd be interested in reading more about it.

>>188117603
not an argument

>>188117710
>Violent Gun Crime
>China- Ranked 97th. 88.8
>US- Ranked 1st. 18 times more than China
really makes you think doesnt it?

>>188117573
I didn't say chinks commit a lot of crime. I said they react to immorality with absolute indifference. I'm not sure how you would measure that in a statistic. I'm telling you from first hand experience that chinks are all high functioning sociopaths. I don't really care if you don't believe me honestly, anyone who has had prolonged exposure to them knows this to be true.

I will always support people learning from experience though. Feel free to come over for a year or two, I can help you out a bit if you need.

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>>188114603
Yep same here. I wake up and have no drive to do anything, I love sleeping, none of my troubles bother me then and it is only time my mind is truly at ease.
If I don't have any H then I just want to be asleep, I can't deal with the world when I'm not opiated... fuck i wish I lived in late 1800s or early 20th century, all opis were legal and very cheap.

>>188117836
>violent gun crime

Are you really going to unironically be that disingenuous Anon? Come on man, this isn't the early days of /pol/ where bait like that worked.

>>188117710
>Violent crime Murders per million people
>China- 10.02 Ranked 74th.
>US- 42.01 Ranked 43th. 4 times more than China

>>188117889
nice anecdotal dude, I am sure you passed grade school

>defending chinks
fucking subhuman desu

>>188117968
>>188118041
not an argument. Poltards are inherently braindead retards that have to resort to ad hominems when they cant rebute the truth. Just like when you have to resort to importing literaly pajeets and chinks to do your STEM homework for you because half you retards are stuck in your mum's basement playing vanilla wow

>>188117990
>Dystopia where the internet is censored and your life is basically chosen for you depending on your family

>>>B-but the crime rates tho

what classes do the /vg/ guilds need?
MoH is full?

>>188118158
Third worlders are imported for those jobs because they'll do it for cheap. Not because they're good at it

>>188118205
hows your life going? Spending your days and nights posting on a vanilla wow thread?

>>188118261
is that right? Or is it because OECD literally says that Dr. Pajeet is a smarter man than your average american brainlet that spends his hours shitposting on pol to make himself feel better

>>188118158
You're comparing gun deaths between an ethnically homogeneous country where guns are illegal to a country with niggers and spics where guns are legal.

Almost all of gun violence is caused by niggers. Virtually every single other gun related death is accidental or suicide related. It's the single most disingenuous comparison a person could possibly make between two countries.

50% of all violent crime in the US is directly caused by niggers. I believe it was something like 10% was from spics. Your numbers need to be adjusted accordingly. Either way the original argument had nothing to do with crime.

>>188118341
sounds like you have a nigger problem?

>>188118334
>no rebuttal

w e w lad its almost as if youre starting shit without knowing what youre even defending, a hyper competitive communist dystopia where connections mean the difference between being rich and being dead

>>188118516
Yes

>>188118523
look at how many buzzwords I can fit in this sentence mom!

>>188118582
>no argument

lol

>>188118582
Yeah I think I'm done here, you obviously havent done any research into china, because if you did you would know that it is in fact the exact opposite of liberty in every sense of the word

I REALLY WANT TO MAKE A PALADIN BUT I LIKE HORDE

>>188118538
I wonder why? Maybe racially segregating people and profiling niggers is bad? Maybe suppressing people under multiple unconstitutional laws is bad? Maybe racial profiling and high rates of policing in specific nigger districts increase the number of incarcerations which is a short term solution instead of improving education and the school system?

>>188118664
what was the argument again? Chinks are souless right? So the government now represents 1.3 billion people. Because people are some kind of being of justice and full of principles when they're born into this world instead of being a product of their environment?

going to make an alt what class should it be?
http://www.strawpoll.me/13849920

>>188118235
fuck off we're full

>>188118874
Niggers were segregated in the 50's and the crime rates were completely flipped compared to today. Not an argument.

take this shitposting to >>>/pol/

>>188118935
what's your main?

>>188118235
DoN need healers, specifically druids or priests

mages or warriors or rogues would also be cool

>>188118874
>just gibs them more programs

You we tried that experiment for 50 years. Even with white genes increasing their IQ by 15 points overall they still can't manage to wipe their own asses properly.

Kill yourself communist faggot.

>>188118991
warrior

Guys don't worry about it. There's a simple answer to all of this. Crime is caused by relative poverty right? Places that don't have relative poverty and are just universally impoverished don't have high crime rates. We see this with old european towns and such.

So all we need to do is find an old black town in africa that's universally impoverished and see how well they are doing. This will show those racists how stupid they are lol. Bet they have farms and pyramids and shit.

>>188118942
Is that so? So we're going to forget that people's grandparents and even parents have been affected by jim crowe and other laws. You're going to disregard everything I said about racial profiling and policing. Nice dude, I bet your teacher gives you a A + in mental gymnastics to leap through all those

>>188119050
who said we need more handouts? Oh boy here we go with the IQ argument again. Seriously how old are you? IQ is already proven to be statistically shown to benefit people that put more emphasis on education. Its the reason why, going by your stats, jews, asians and whites all have higher IQ than blacks. You know why? Its not because of their genes, its because whites asians and jews all have access to better education. I bet you're going to cite the retards that did IQ tests back in the 50's that were already proven to be falsified by countless recent studies. Poltards are so fucking easy.

>>188119212
hunter or warlock

t. mage and warrior at 60

mage isn't as fun to level as the other two

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>chink this ass blasted

>>188119274
Jesus christ you couldn't possibly make it more obvious that you've never stepped foot into a lower middle class neighborhood in your fucking life. Do you want to know why so many people dismiss your leftist bullshit? It's because most people here and most people in general didn't live your cushy faggot life style. A lot of us have real world experience with this shit. I grew up poor. I grew up surrounded by niggers. I grew up eating shit food, with a single mother, with shit clothes, and with shitty teachers. I worked hard. Niggers goofed around in class and beat the shit out of each other on a daily basis. They had no interest in education.

IQ is increased by education and proper nutrition, to a degree. But it's also MASSIVELY increased by genetics. Denying this is absolutely fucking delusional.

I thought you were a retarded leftists but after your "we need more handouts" slip up you've just confirmed that you're a retarded quadroon trying to justify the fact that abominations like you are allowed to exist. Day of the rope soon spook. Racism is bred from reality, not from ignorance.

>sciencedirect com/ science/ article/pii/ S0960982213008440

for all you ignorant poltards that literally need to feel superior to everyone else because your life somehow went to shit and here you shitting up a vanilla wow thread with your pol tier reasoning instead of reading actual papers

>>188119605
wow your personal anecdote sure convinced me. Why dont you disapprove actual studies by actual people working in genetics. Who the fuck is going to listen to your personal bias when there's people that devoted their lives into the study of human cognition. You're literally delusional that I am going to believe some bumbling retard that ended up in a nig school.

>>188119760
Where did I ignore the fact that IQ is in part increased by education in formative years? Feel free to quote where I said that.

>>188119760
I don't need to feel superior to niggers or chinks. I just don't want to have them in my country or influencing the way I live my life. They can keep their culture in their own countries and everything will be fine.

>he's STILL shilling

>>188119846
read the fucking paper retard. You didnt even read the fucking paper if you're replying this quickly. Or maybe its because you cant even read?

>>188119872
have you wondered why the US has the biggest economy? Probably because you imported chinks, niggers, pajeets to pull the weight of your uneducated brainlet population. Look at other countries that have stayed homogeneous. Do they even compare to the US? No. You know why? Because the US nitpicked all the smartest people from all around the world to build the country you have today. Stay ignorant though.

I want to live a happy life should I stay in the west or move to the east(Australia/china)?

>>188120028
Okay, now I know you're trolling. Thank you.

Keep drinking the pol koolaid so you can feel part of something bigger than your own sad existence. The world will move forward without you while you continue to shitpost on some echo chamber of other retards. No wonder you guys all hold hands and chant the same retarded arguments over and over again. Remember, being edgy is only cool when you're a teen kiddo. Any rational, educated person that has went to university will just continue their lives while you think to yourself how the world has wronged you. Keep playing the blame game, it really makes you the stronger individual. Dr. Pajeet will continue to teach at MIT and Mr. Brown will continue to steal your white women. Meanwhile Dr. Wang will continue monitoring your active shitposting over the interweb. Oh dont forget Mr. Shekelberg who runs the whole show!

what time is the salty dogs raid tomorrow in EST

>>188119760
Even if we assume niggers could magically increase by 20 IQ points to reach the average for every single other civilized race on the planet, this still doesn't deal with the issue of relative poverty.

It's been proven that whites can operate under universal poverty without any serious problems what so ever. Yet niggers have yet to prove to be capable of this. I'd really like to create a controlled environment and test niggers capabilities in a situation like that, since I know you'll write off their african brothers as just poor geography despite how much truth to that there actually is.

I do love science. I love it a lot. I have so many questions and would honestly like to test all of your theories. I'd absolutely love to fucking test all of your theories.

The problem we have here isn't that the evul racists don't want the claims you make to be proven right though. The problem is that kikes won't fund these questions because they already know the answers.

I'll read the article later. For now I'll just assume it doesn't address anything of substance, unless you can quote something in it that is particularly relevant to your point. Throwing entire articles at someone in an argument without quotes is very poor etiquette and shows that you have little interest in the health of the discussion.

So just how bad is it to level a Paladin, compared to say, a Warrior or Priest?

>>188120635
Priest isn't bad to level, it's actually incredibly efficient. Paladin isn't bad to level either, it's just boring and not very efficient

>>188120687
Oh, really? I leveled one to 17 on a TBC server and thought it was pretty bad, maybe I was just playing it wrong.

>>188118235
> MoH is full?
Just ask Manlett when he's on.

>>188120493
>waves off my rebuttal to his claim that intelligence is MASSIVELY linked to genes
You cant just disregard my citation like that retard especially when it disapproves everything you're saying. It just shows very poor etiquette that you have little interest in the health of the discussion. Maybe if you took the time and read it, you would realize how your argument falls flat. Also blame the jews for everything cause somehow they're the biggest boogieman of the century and all the issues that white people are facing are somehow due to the jews. Never change poltard never change. Go back to school and learn to read because like I said, any educated person would disagree with everything you have to say cause you're argument is baseless and only holds ground because you want it to be so. But seriously, keep digging yourself further into the ground and stay delusional until the rest of the world has already left you in the dust. Pathetic.

>>188120635
Priest is easy they just wand
Warrior is shit in the early levels
Paladin is just a boring version of shaman,
They have next to no active spells and rely on auto attacks, the seals are underwhelming windfury procs, leveling a paladin is alot like leveling a ehn shaman with a dagger flametounge and shield and never using any of his spells.
you will never die because you are a melee with selfheal but you'l never really need to be awake to auto attack and you never get a seal that is as satisfying and a windfury crit is.

They're much better in tbc though you must of fucked up

>>188121072
So you wouldn't recommend Paladin if I thought there was a pretty decent chance I'd never actually hit 60?

>>188119519
but how is mage at 60? im trying to decide my alt between hunter or mage, main is also a warrior

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>>188121192
im confused if you never plan to hit 60 what does it matter what you play?

>>188121220
mage is based in pvp, in pve its shit frostbolt or decursive spam

if you're aiming for a pvp alt mage is the way to go

if its farming keep it mind they nerfed clearcasting so you can't aoe farm quite as well as before

>>188121054
You're right Anon. Fuck man. That's how you win debates, you tell the opposition to "go to google and read this article retard".

If you aren't going to quote the relevant parts of the article then it's blatantly obvious you're trying to stunt the conversation in hopes that your opposition won't sit there and read the article. The first half of it is whining on about how intelligence is abstract.

You have no interest in exchanging knowledge. You're only interested in tallying a win with a record number of fallacies and gaslighting tactics.

If you actually quote or direct me to relevant information then we can continue, otherwise you'll just be ignored. I'm very open to new information and very open to changing my opinions about things. You will not change anyone's mind with the way you argue.

>>188121428
very carefully

>>188120493
Seems like you are too ignorant to consider the fact that government has purposefully and carefully created the situation nigs are in now

Who introduced drugs into black communities?
Who put liquor and gun stores on every corner?
Who created black media?
Who at every turn tried to undo the work mlk and other civil rights leaders did?

Systematic destruction to create a welfare dependant population.
You pol fucks are so hilarious. Claim you are redpilled but you can't see shit.

>>188120635
>>188121192
Paladins are awesome. You get a ton of oh shit buttons so you never die and if your bubble is up you can pretty much kill any class at your level which makes it even safer. You get a free mount at 40 and if you go Ret with a nice 2 hander your damage is more than fine. You can also aoe farm like champ with prot/consecration

If you're looking for something super engaging then Paladin probably isn't for you because yes people can find it boring. However If you want to breeze through leveling and don't want the white knuckle thrill ride that is a Warrior 1v1ing a mob his level and not knowing if you're gonna come out of it alive, Paladin is for you.

>>188119872
What do you mean YOUR country. You dont own a country. No race owns a country. This is exactly what people mean when they say you feel the need to be superior. The core of your argument is that you are somehow superior and deserve to be surrounded by people with the same beliefs and appearance as yourself.

>>188122460
Yeah, at this point the main thing for me is just whether or not I want to make an Alliance character. My main is Horde and I feel like Paladin would be a lot smoother if I could send over weapons every few levels, and I don't like the idea of having both a Horde and Alliance character.

I'm fine with mostly just auto attacking and I'd level Ret then switch to Holy at 60, but I'm wondering, how fast do you actually kill shit? I'm cool with just auto attacking mobs down, it's having a super slow kill speed that I'd be against.

>>188122438
The jews?

>>188122438
I'm not ignorant of this at all nor do I enable it.

Anon, I don't want niggers to murder rape and steal from people my man. If there was a solution to the problem of niggers creating mayhem then I would support employing it through and through. Get fucking real my dude. The kikes hate niggers more than anyone to the point of turning them into slave politic pawns.

Nothing in my writing has implied otherwise, it's all assumption on your end.

Like I said, I want to see what happens when you give niggers the exact same environment as whites. The government intervention has fucked up this observation, I don't like that fact. Once again you're just strawmanning out of your ass with your same tired leftist rhetoric. It's fair though because 99% of cuckchan pol users are self hating quadroon civic nationalists, so you're somewhat justified in your approach I guess.

I would absolutely fucking adore witnessing a world where niggers were given the exact same opportunities and environment as whites and still fell flat on their shit-skin faces. The kikes that fund research and fund the spooks fucking up nigger neighborhoods will never allow that to happen though.

That's if we ignore the fact that every single race in the north that had to suffer the freezing cold developed significantly larger brain sizes on average and today have consistently high IQ's because of the need to develop strategies beyond simply killing, eating, and fucking. Intelligence was developed out of necessity. There was never any necessity for niggers to innovate.

But I'm honestly very inclined to ignore every aspect of reality just to give you what you want and watch the bullshit that you make up when niggers still fail miserably. You're given culture, civilization, laws, food, water, plumbing, education, weapons, clothes, and contraception, and you still can't muster anything above a 90 IQ average. Jesus fucking christ man how far are you willing to stretch this gibs me dat.

>>188122964
Retbull here, if you get a really slow weapon (3.5 speed or higher) you can basically 2 shot mobs of equal level while using seal of command. Thats how i leveled and i got to 60 with 6 days played

>>188121596
its mainly for pve, and money making is another factor too, since making money on my warrior usually requires alot of effort.

i understand mage is mostly 1 button spam with the occasional decurse, but isn't hunter roughly the same pvewise, just using aimed shot on cd?

>>188122438
>Who introduced drugs into black communities?
>Who put liquor and gun stores on every corner?
>Who created black media?
>Who at every turn tried to undo the work mlk and other civil rights leaders did?
>You pol fucks are so hilarious.
Funny you'd say that.

>>188123242
I'm not reading all that bullshit
You made it clear four lines in that you have zero understanding of history
Take a look at Africa during the 50s and 60s. Actual economies, Hugh quality of living, developed cities...
Then America comes along and causes uprisings in all the prosperous nations

Youre a fool

>white people don't kill rape and steal!!!
Such a fool

>>188122438
>Who introduced drugs into black communities?
>Who put liquor and gun stores on every corner?
>Who created black media?
>Who at every turn tried to undo the work mlk and other civil rights leaders did?

Now you're asking the right questions Trayvon.

>Who introduced drugs into black communities?
>Who put liquor and gun stores on every corner?
>Who created black media?
>Who at every turn tried to undo the work mlk and other civil rights leaders did?
oy vey who would do these horrible things?

>>188123340
How common are these weapons and what is the minimum level for them? Is it reasonable to have one at an early level and replace it every few levels?

>>188123458
>Then America comes along and causes uprisings in all the prosperous nations
that was the communists retard

Is vanilla raiding still hard, or has 12 years of experience and mechanical advancements made it a snorefest of curbstomping?

>>188123797
it is of course very easy duh.

>>188123797
it's an absolute joke

wotlk heroics are harder than MC, Ony and BWL

AQ onwards is different but few servers make it that far before dying

>>188123365
Kiting seems more cool to me, and pve hunter you have a rotation similar to dps warrior

I don't really like that kind of thing personally which is why I'm prot lol

I guess I'd rather heal than dps it seems more interesting to me in pve so maybe try a druid, on horde at least you could feral dps or tank 100%, and you can always heal

I think alliance you could kitty form equally if not slightly more viably

Don't go mage or hunter if you want end game pve, if you already main a warrior it's boring in comparison

>>188098825
What part of 2 people doing completely separate actions during a raid tipped you off?

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>>188123242
>'white' Americans and 'black' Americans
>mystery meat burger thinks it's people

every.
single.
time.

>>188124764
>new ip

every time lol

>>188123997
Druid healing as as simple as it gets. Go priest if you want depth to healing. Druid is the mage easy mode of healing specs.

>>188123691
you definitely wont always have a slow weapon. You should make the most out of what you though. I recommend leveling with the highest dps 2 hander you can find. If the weapon is faster than 3.3 speed i would seal crusader. Personally my weapon history on my pally was: smites mighty hammer -> verigans fist -> crowd pummeler -> ruthless shiv -> nightblade -> the rockpounder -> ice barbed spear -> unstoppable force

>>188123997
>>188125042
yeah another class i was thinking was priest since i always thought shadow was cool af, but since i've never healed before i wasn't sure if i'd be good at it/enjoy it, i've mainly just played exclusively warrior dps over the years with some tanking exp for the first 3 expansions.
actually i have 2 lvl 60s on this server and they're both warriors. help me bros

how long does it take to hit max level in this server?
its been awaile since ive played wow and im really not looking forward to a weeks of grinding levels

>>188125529
4 days /played and two weeks real time.

>>188125632
>two weeks real time.
maybe if you no life

>>188125529
A month maybe 2

>>188125632
> 4 days /played
thats literally impossible, maybe with a lot of mob tags, but most certainly not solo

>>188125042
>druid healing
>easy

>>188125726
>>188125721
spotted the casuals

>>188125726
first 60 on ely was 3 days played with no rested xp and probably account trading.

Elysium =/= retail Vanilla

>>188125726
>>188125721
spotted the casuals

>>188125836
that was back when mob respawn times were literally 3 seconds apart though

>>188123797
With 1.12 abilities/talents, modern addons and internet and 12 years of experience it's a piece of cake.

Naxxramus is difficult but even so it's not comparable to mythic raiding.

I want mommy Madti to brap on my face!

>>188126457
and even with all that, full bis and world buffs MoH wipes on garr every week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzOwTro-Ffk

>>188125836
on elysium mob spawns are based on player pop. on launch there was so many people it was actually a 15 minute lupos timer lol

>>188126316
Also remember Elysium had no working afk logout system for the first 2 months. You could stay in game forever and beat the queues while taking advantage of mobs spawning 10x as fast.

>>188126649
WWD 6/6 UBRS wwu!!

trannies absolutely fuming right now.

>>188126649
trannies btfo again!
good job

>>188126692
that's not it, they just upped spawn timers in starter zones for the first two weeks.

I remember leveling up 1-10 just killing the same mob respawning over and over.

>>188126649
wtf im quitting moh to roll horde now

based wwd

gelkis or magram

>>188126649
i'm literally quitting moh right now

>>188126930
It effects all mobs. It's why Azuregos/Kazzak spawns more than twice as fast as retail/other servers here.

>>188127093
yeah. dumb, but necessary due to high pop and number of guilds, even for world bosses

>>188127093
either way, what they did at launch was more than just dynamic respawns. once you got out of the starter zone all the mobs were dead and you couldn't get a single tag no matter what.

and what they do with world bosses is completely random and has nothing to do with retail spawn timers, it's custom server content.

>>188126649
>direct messages
>puddi
fucking tranny orbiters

>>188127127
I agree with that in theory.
But in reality it's the same two guilds getting world bosses every time. All it's doing is increasing the rate at which Praise/Progress gears up and clears content easier.

>>188127280
>WWD even has puddi

how can manlet's guild recover after this? even cock sucking faggots know better than to stick with man date.