/mbg/ - Mount & Blade General

>>188047798
vlandians r gay and so am i

Why dont they do Bannerlord early access? Warband spent months unfinished and people still love it

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>>188047391
And once again, warrior women are high fantasy. It's fiction. It's like dwarves or elves. Completely made up. They are a myth, herodotus wrote about them in the same fashion he did about dragons and griffons.

Olympic level female athletes are statistically as strong as an average guy. That's the top one hundred out of four billion. The american female soccer league lost to a bunch of high school boys.

If you want to have amazon warriors, that's fine.

You're just not talking about humans anymore if the women start being warleaders and fighters.

In conclusion, the xenos must be destroyed.

This is Rhodok soil

>>188049875
That's pig poop and you can keep it.

>But if you go back in time a little bit, you see that a lot of societies did have female leaders. It was much more prevalent
What societies were they talking about

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Turks are white and based.

>>188050242
sarmatians

>>188050242
Imperial austria and victorian england come to mind. Somewhat common in royal families which were not able to produce a male heir.

But warleaders?

It almost never happens. Something like one for every hundred thousand male warleaders if not much worse.

>>188050242
quit baiting you fag

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too much gold?
>>188050585
>that filename
kek

that mask helm doesn't look very mongol to me

I am disappoint

>>188047798
>mongolians
>mail armor
t-triggered

>>188050909

the only occasion where a woman lead an army I recall is of course most famously Joan of Arc, and then that insane Olga woman

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>>188049740
>Complaining about fiction in a fictional setting.
Female warriors have existed and there are even mixed sex competitions to this day There is no evidence of dwarves or elves ever existing. Warfare tends to not be a one on one duel among the strongest a society can muster. Especially when the alternative may be genocide.

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>>188051306

worry not brother, all free men shall be united under mods that fix them

I can't wait for playing Bannerlord mods. They will be beautiful

>>188049740

the high prevalence of women warriors in fantasy mods is really kind of annoying. it takes me out of the experience every time

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>>188052101
>complain about female warriors being unrealistic when dragons roam
Which fantasy mods have women as standard troops anyways. The standard troops of the factions in PoP and Perisno are all male.

>>188051082
>too much gold?
It looks unnecessary for the leg protection.

>>188051384
>there are even mixed sex competitions to this day
Are there? Not in the olympics, not in boxing, not in MMA, not in 3-Gun.

What in? Some obscure national sport in some tiny asian country? That is your evidence that women are warriors?

Nobody is pointing a finger at villiage raids having female villiagers. It's desperate and they will starve if you take their goods so they do what they can.

What we are upset about is female heavy cavalry shock troops.

And dwarfism is a real thing you insensitive clod.

>>188052456
>The standard troops of the factions in PoP and Perisno are all male.
They both have elves, which might as well be female

best single player mods for warband?

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>>188052456
You're missing the point tard-o, or being deliberately obtuse. Dragons are fucking dragons, I can rationalize them being dragons in the confines of their universe. But human women being main line soldiers and warriors, is basically creating a new race of creatures and insisting they're human.

They're not. Human women will never make good warriors, no matter what. If you're going to have women warriors, they may as well be orcs or xlatolatls or some other made up nonsense, because they can't be reconciled as humans. Amazon's are only acceptable as an exception to the rule.

Stop being retarded.

>>188053028

PoP for one, Brytenwalda, gekokujo, floris is a good native focused improvement mod as well

>>188053192

also the last days of the third age, which is bar none the best lord of the rings mod made for any game ever

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>>188052674
is this fine then?
>>188052712
>They both have elves, which might as well be female
t. elf defiler
You're right though, fucking elves.

>>188053349
Much better.

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>>188053349
>>188052712

Elves? I don't think so!

>>188052712
You're the one that made the statement that female warriors don't exist. You even compared them to Dwarves and Elves. To refute that all I need is a single example. Don't whine at the easy refutation to your weak assertion.

Changing goalposts such that:

>That is your evidence that women are warriors?

Is absolutely ridiculous as well. No one ever said that women are warriors - With implication that ALL women are warriors. Consider the statement applied to men: Men are implicitly warriors? Its an absurd statement applied to both sexes.

elves, dwarves and dragons all exist, just not in this dimension

smoke some DMT

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>>188053065
>But human women being main line soldiers and warriors
No one ever stated that women should be main line soldiers and warriors. To deny that they existed historically is politically motivated denial just as bad as the SJW cunts though. To use that as a premise to object to female warriors in video games asserts you assholes as cancer.

>>188053897
>he doesn't have a dragon as his primary vehicle
fucking serfs

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>>188053897
>i do drugs

>>188053028
Check out the pastebin in the OP, it's got links and submods for most of the popular mods.

My personal list
>Gekokoju Daimyo Edition or GekoNewer
>Rising Sun (new release)
>1257 w/ Anon's submod
>VC w/ Anon's submod
>Dickplomacy
>Rome at War (small but good)
Some people will recommend Novas Aetus but I could personally never get into it.
Meme tier
>Warsword
>Paradigm Worlds
>Star Wars Conquest
>Napoleonic Wars
These are worth a play just for giggles, though I unironically enjoy SW Conquest.

This is just my opinion, take it for what it's worth. Also take note that I tend not to play too many fantasy mods, so I can't speak for their quality. I do know that both GoT mods are pretty shit though. I've been toying with Medieval Conquest recently, and it has some interesting ideas, but I think it might be too script heavy. I'm going to crack open a book and just have my guy wait in a town for a few hundred days and see what happens.
>>188054006
I'm not involved in your argument, I was just telling you using "Dragons exist so wimmen wurriurs is tots cool man!" is a dumb as shit point. I personally don't take issue with women in games.

>>188054006

trying to sound smart, but only coming off as a millennial

>>188054303
DMT is present in your body now, just in smaller amounts

>>188054337
>le retard millenial makes fun of other millenials maymay
Late millenials are in their thirties, and you most likely are one, you fucking mongoloid. And no, I'm not him.

>>188054560

but you seem threatened by the characterization

>>188053028
Nova Aetas
LOTR shit
Geko
1257

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>>188054337
If anything it's the opposite. SJWs dare to taint video game women by citing them as offensive. The counter-movement to the SJWs is attempting to remove them completely. Both normie movements need to fuck off.

>>188055116

outside of a rare instance, there are zero women involved in frontline warfare in history (unless you're going to point toward the baggage train :D)

I'm sorry this gets you mad enough to claim youropponents are some kind of men's issues vanguard or whatever

>>188054332
>I'm not involved in your argument, I was just telling you using "Dragons exist so wimmen wurriurs is tots cool man!" is a dumb as shit point. I personally don't take issue with women in games.
The point wasn't dragons themselves but to emphasize the absolute nature of the statement. You have to remember that the original message replied to compared female warriors to Dwarves and Elves. From a fictional standpoint Dragons, Dwarves, and Elves are fundamentally the same in context.

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>>188055116

> This entire argument

>>188055418
Why are you replying to this post? The point women warriors in video games predates SJW interest (and the counter) in video games by a significant margin. To defend the former norms of video games as a medium is not something that would imply "millennial", especially a younger millennial.

How the fuck do i use modmerger? everytime i start build_module.bat it just says "the command "python" is either written false or couldn't be found"

>>188055691

I don't recall women warriors in any games I played before the current era

>>188056041
Any jap game(given they put them into sexy costumes)has done female warriors since forever

>>188056285

well that's ever been the japanese, and they're strange

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>>188056041
Being underage is a bannable offense m8

>>188053028
VC
turned into my favorite mod after i've gotten into it, i'm liking it even more than 1257 and i didn't think i would
the levy system and quarters system won me over in the end

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>>188056041
you're taste in games is clearly as shitty as your general opinions

>>188056342
its not just the Japanese

>>188047798
Banana lord when?

>>188047798

Why is that guy wearing a Vaegir helmet?

>>188056827
it's cuman

>>188053681
My claim was that there is no such thing as warrior women.

Not that there cannot be a warrior woman. There are maybe a dozen such documented cases before the 20th century, more in the modern age with the introduction of modern medicine specifically hormonal treatments which boost women to 100x their natural T levels.

Nobody is arguing that there cannot be weird outliers.

What I'm saying is that swadian knights with tits are as bullshit as an army of julius caesers because they're about as rare.

So yes, it's utter fantasy, statistically you are more likely to have someone spontaneously combust on my command (AKA MAGIC BEING REAL) than a hundred armor clad maidens who can fight as well as a man can.

Although, again, I can see this being possible with heavy hormonal treatment.

>>188056827
Why is this guy an idiot?

>>188056827
Steppe riders from that area had those facemasks seems to be inspired by kievan rus or cumans

>le woman in vido gaim agrument
this is supposed to be my safe space ree
just put them in skimpy outfits and call it 'empowering' or dont bother

>>188056827
khuzaits are the vaegir's ancestors

>>188056687
those are male elves

>>188056478

that's simply a fighting game, and it's contemporary a setting, nothing historical

are you daft?

>>188056687

those are just elves, and they're pretty much entirely women, even the "men"

and I can't judge your own taste in video games since your life and experiences are unknown to me :)

>>188057072
>>188057048

So the Khergit and Vaegir branched off from the Khuzaits?

>>188057494
probably
im just making stuff up

>>188054332
There is one little thing that concerns me in 1257, it's about bows
I'm using MW Hunbowdmg14c/8pd required/acc 94/att.speed 61 for 10pd 4ha char, because I don't know any better. I'm not 100% sure if that's correct, 2bh.
help ( ._.)

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>>188056961
Hormone treatment won't change early developmental advantages men have in such things as bone mass and density. There are articles like this which I find interesting for implications of future female potential but I haven't seen any evidence of it exhibited IRL so far.

https://bayesianbodybuilding.com/natural-muscular-potential-women/

In any case I am the same guy you are arguing with and I am only arguing against applying norms to the exceptional. I agree that it is a bit absurd to have women as standard troops unless the entire faction is Amazonian or generally in-human in some explicit way.

>So yes, it's utter fantasy, statistically you are more likely to have someone spontaneously combust on my command (AKA MAGIC BEING REAL) than a hundred armor clad maidens who can fight as well as a man can.
You are going back and forth between pretty odd extremes. This has happened both in ancient history (exp:Lady Sun's army of female bodyguards that terrified Liu Bei) and recent history with figures like Gaddafi whom insisted on female bodyguards due to his belief in women's stronger protective instincts.

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>>188057291
Pretty certain Tola isn't an Elf.

In any case there are so many examples of female warriors that predate this general SJW cancer that its pretty simple to pluck another out if you have any knowledge of video games.

>>188058126

I have no idea what that game is

it's not important to be versed in obscure games to have a valid argument about the presence of women in warfare

>>188058126
>>188057851
>>188057291
>>188057125

Can we agree on this:

There's nothing wrong with putting fighting women in a videogame, just don't claim it's historical

>>188058304
Jagged Alliance
>Obscure
So which one are you normie or just underaged?

>>188058304
>Street Fighter 2 - The most historically iconic fighting game
>Wizardry - The Dungeon Crawler that arguably inspired most modern day RPGs
>Jagged Alliance (along with XCOM) - The standard for turned base shooting strategy RPGs
None of these games are obscure m8

>>188057789

I would think you'd be more worried about 1257 having a boring and empty map

>>188058526

maybe it's a game that was popular in europe, I've never heard of it

>>188057851
>dress a bunch of women up as swadian knights
>they have nervous system breakdowns after wearing the armor for one week
>w-women stronk!

You have some reason to believe that gaddafi's bodyguards were competent? Because he's dead.

>>188058126
Nobody ever complained that their immersion was broken because they could pick a female character.

I think even one or two lords would be fine, as long as care is taken that they are not above average.

Immersion is lost when you go to a tavern and there's a bunch of human wenches with giant hammers for hire.

>>188057789
I don't understand the question unfortunately, I'm not a min-maxer, and I don't play archer hardly ever. Hopefully some archerfag can help you out.

>>188055796
noone can help?

>>188058924
That was a question? If he's asking if bows are good in 1257AD they are amazing. However you have to be willing to go to power draw 10 as the armor system of 1257AD makes bows garbage until power draw bonus gets sufficiently high.

>>188058741
JA is a pretty obscure game I only know about because people keep (wrongly) comparing it to xcom

I certainly never heard of it before 2012.

>>188059030
just b urself

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>>188057851
>his belief in their stronger protective instincts
Hahaha Gaddahfi had women bodyguards because he liked sexy women, that excuse was just the equivalent of ,"I read playboy for the articles."

>>188059494

did the snackbars kill and despoil his harem?

I hope not

I haven't played this game in 7 years, which mods should I use?

>>188059687
His "bodyguards" were really just virgins who were kidnapped and made into sex slaves. Gaddafi had a uniform fetish apparently

>>188059242
Both Jagged Alliance and XCOM were constantly cited for pretty much any turn based isometric game that contained firearms but had overly simple combat mechanics. Example: Fallout 1 and Fallout 2. Namely for Fire Suppression, environment cover, and overwatch. You didn't have to be a fan of tactical games to hear about these two games ad-nauseum. You just had to play any turn based RPG that had firearms.

>>188058624
you should be more worried about being a brainlet

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I'm posting The Humungus, The Lord Humungus, The Warrior of the Wasteland, The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla in honour of the original Humungus poster until we get a good post-apocalyptic mod.

>>188059494
>undisciplined posture
>hats all facing different directions
>unpressed shirts
>wearing forty dollars of makeup
honor guard my ass

>>188055796
sounds like your path is set up wrong

>>188059858

you know, feeling threatened by your betters isn't endearing a quality

>>188060197
>too retarded to play 1257
>better than anyone else

>>188058624

The most ahistorical part of 1257AD is how empty the Mediterranean is. Which was, at that time, constantly at war.

Heck, Malta isn't even on the map, it's empty between Sicily and North Africa, even though it was an active port for Christian privateers.

>>188060289

there isn't much involved to 1257, one plods along quite easily through that droll, and vacant expanse

>>188060018
how is it supposed to look like?

>>188059815
pls respond

>>188060414
>that droll, and vacant expanse
this perfectly describes my experience with it

>>188060414
>muh empty wurld
dumb meme

>>188059815
I liked perisno

the warhammer one is good if you are big into the lore

really you should just wait for bannerlord to release

which one of you fags is cao cao posting on /his/

>>188060919
:^)

>>188060808
What's the release date?

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>>188060542
>>188060414
1257AD really picks up once you start your own kingdom or are fighting for a kingdom engaged in multiple wars. Trying mercing for a kingdom that has a crusade declared against them if you want some action.

On the negative side, 1257AD has the most soul crushing (I've had sieges that lasted over 4 hours) and randomly bad designed sieges of any mod.

>>188058624
true that I had to get used to this at first, but I'm ok atm . Plus there is shitload of stuff that I like there. Ofc it's still my honeymoon, mayby there'll be some shit that will piss me off.

>>188058924
>min-max
yea, that's the sole reason of my question. Bows are OPaf in 1257, so there is no true need for more damage or anything

>>188059201
yea, by the time when I got 10pd and that mw hunbow from my post I realised that bows are pretty strong %^D

So yup, that's a question, but not very urgent one nor important, I guess I should find mw longbow and mw mongbow first and see what's up myself

>>188061004
never ever

>>188061029
the sieges are inconsistent in quality
some are actually good and some are broken

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>>188060919
god bless those whom keep Cao Cao in our hearts.

where is Steppe Waifu poster(s)

>>188061029
>Starting your own kingdom in a mod without Diplomacy integrated
Are you a masochist?

>>188061317
1257 has diplomacy

>>188061317
1257 has diplomacy

>>188060919

I'm already in that thread, but not cao posting :^)

>>188061317
1257 has diplomacy

>>188061317
1257 has diplomacy

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>>188061317
Diplomacy actually makes it harder to maintain peaceful relations in most mods. Although I must admit that 1257AD is the only Diplomacy integrated mod that has seemingly rational factions compared to the batshit insane constant World War I see in most other mods.

>>188061706
the more mods i play with diplomacy the more i agree with that faggot on the PooP forums

My problem with 1257 is that there are barely any fucking bandits to grind with.

Compare this with stuff like Gekkokujo where there's always no short supply of action in case the downtime gets boring.

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is there a way to disable or tweak the trait system in Nova EATASS?

I don't want every single one of my characters to be ugly and fat because I happen to start the game with """"ugly"""" clothes and a single piece of food.

>>188061706

What did you do in this?

The most ridiculous spam, I think, is if you burn a monastery down in Brytenwalda. You lose like 20 rep with *every single Christian settlement*
So just to spite, as I was Celtic faith, after I won I converted everywhere to Celtic Paganism and burned them all down

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>>188061856
It can get pretty awful in mods with higher faction totals such as Gekokujo and Suvarnabhumi Mahayuth. On the plus side though it allows a savvy mercenary to achieve 99 RTR within months if savvy. 1257AD being again a pretty strong exception. 1257AD factions tend to not declare wars arbitrarily (which I imagine is part of the reason it seems slow early on) and they tend to be at war far longer than most mods. These longer wars made it difficult for me to far for RTR even when being mercenary for kingdoms that were at war with 5-6 factions.

>>188062195
>barely any fucking bandits to grind with.
what

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what's this, I'm supposed to get whole set or something?

I haven't played in like 6 years and that was Floris. What mod should I try this time?

>>188062917
floris evolved

>>188062195
hunt for "help with the bandits" guest. Peasants spawn 1-2 at once usually and quests ends with battle against ~40 plain bandits (80exp/kill ones).

>>188062732
is this just vanilla 1257?

>>188061317
1257 has diplomacy

>>188062657

I started in Russia in my first game and for about 30 minutes all I did was going from castle to castle doing errands in a vast wilderness with fucking nothing to do. The map in 1257 is just too damn big for its own good.

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>>188062195
Town quests are deceptively good in Native and the larger map makes escort quests really lucrative. 1257AD to me is basically:

Early game: Town quests or tournaments (I find tournament play extremely boring though)

Mid game: Mercenary or Vassal play

Late game: Whatever you want

>>188062476
I did not do anything special, I was getting prompts like that every 30 in-game days. I could have sworn I had a more illustrative screenshot from Gekokujo where the war declaration log was so long it couldn't even fit on the display but I can't find it ATM.

I find the problem with Diplomacy is basically the following:

1) Mutual defense pact tend to create world war scenarios that can evolve into ongoing warfare if a faction succeeds in conquering a fief.

2) Diplomacy does not change the AI behavior of a losing faction rejecting peace treaties to maintain honor. Therefore if your faction is successful it can counter-intuitively get increasingly difficult to get a peace treaty even as a King, causing wars to go on until you completely wipe them out.

I find #2 in particular a strange design decision. Talesworld needs to take ques from Civilization and allow you to leverage a superior military to negotiate preferable terms. I would also appreciate the ability to have vassal kingdoms or support a claimant as a King to start civil wars.

>>188062195
>>188063347
>when the pleb filter works

>>188063347
It's better to start as a vassal

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>>188063347
>going from castle to castle doing errands in a vast wilderness with fucking nothing to do
wew lad

>>188063347
then start somewhere else
>>188063512
no it isn't

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>>188063443
The formatting came off terribly. Bah. Anyways this is an early reward from an escort quest in Native. Doing escort quests in 1257AD with the massive map are much more lucrative.

>>188063512
Mercenary play is really good in 1257AD. Playing as a vassal is a good way to be locked into long periods of peace time and not appreciate the variety the mod offers. Namely as neighboring factions tend to have similar types of armies and you can't really appreciate the variety in maps if you are stuck in one region as someone just starting the mod.

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I'm posting Cao Cao in honour of the poster who was posting in honour of the original Cao Cao poster until we get a good Romance of the three kingdoms mod.

>>188063950
what about that dynasty warriors mod?

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>>188063886
welp, that is clearly not Native. Getting my screenshots mixed up. Here is one from 1257AD.

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>>188064027

>>188064142

What's wrong with it? The only problem I found with it was Daio Chan looking out of place, but the armors looked fairly authentic. The generic officers at least.

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>>188063160
I guess so, I don't really remember where I've got it. I spent some time on hdd w/o me touching it.

I have a bug with Warband where the sound will become massively loud when riding a horse in battle, is there a fix to this or no?

>>188049674
Because early access is cancer.

>>188064291
Is responding seriously a new meme?

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>>188064330
there is a simple resolution to your problem

>>188064523
>t. filthy Rhodok

>>188061153
:/

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>>188064523
That's not an option when you are true ha or swadian style kniga

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>>188064121
>dude asks me to escort a caravan from oslo to nicaea or whatever the fuck it was called
>gave me around 10000 denars for it
I barely made it in time but it was worth it.

Sorry anons, i have a stupid question.
I've installed dickplomacy some time ago, then the other day i've moved some files and it stopped working, now i want to fresh reinstall, how do i do? I cant remember, and in the mod files aint no instructions

>>188054006
It's actually a very natural process. The ppl who "object to female warriros in video games", or more generally, who object to stronk females in popular culture, are just a natural counter to the ppl who are pushing this to the max. Sure, there existed in small amounts, throughout history, female warriors/fighters, but turning that small fraction of a precentage into a unrealistic size, and then forcing it into every main stream media, ignoring the main audience for said media, is obviously going to create a counter force (ying and yang). You can't have one without the other.

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I feel inspired

>>188065387
remove " 's map" and you'd hit gold

>>188065387
Why is there so many angry finns in the first picture

>>188065387
this better ironic

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>>188065365
That may be true. If so the balance must be maintained to preserve the that which must be preserved.

>>188065387
i found quite a few bandits in poland

>>188059953
what about that zombie one

>>188064291

I hate the armors from that mod

they look like fantasy tier plastic junk

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>>188065387
your trips last twice as much, but siedges, battles and most of shit is four times as big at least. This gives 2.0x corpse/km multiplier.
I'm not even gonna mention these juicy 720epx/each worth lords or 320exp senior knights
tbeh sometimes it feels too intense (they fucked shit out of me and garrison of total 800 people, but then they a,sl let me pay a fine (500gp..??) and gtf out there.)

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>>188066425

>>188066269
god damnit anon, that's what inspired me to fap 3 hours ago, and now I get back and see it again, I guess I'll be back in a couple more hours

>>188066338

when I played that mod I would not see another party for eons, and they would the only thing present in the area when I did find them for miles in any direction, and then I went to denmark and seemingly every bandit party on the map was there for some reason with nothing else present

>>188066338
also this, Poland and even more Baltic states are quite dangerous ones. More or less area: north from Krakow, east from Gdansk south from Koninngsberg and west from Kiev.

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all this 1257 talk makes me want to continue my world conquest

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>>188066441

This one? Looks okay to me.

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>>188067216
Conquer the world of 1257AD and join the elite few of with supreme M&B autism! Release kingdom management details BANNERLORD

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Was getting caught part of his plan?

>>188065365
You are being deliberately misleading when writing small fraction.

We are talking at most a hundred women for all of human history (pre-20th century).

It's not a small fraction. These girls are basically heroes like Achilles, next to whom ordinary women dare not even compare.

They are beyond diminutive in quantity. Dwarves are less rare. There are more composers of baroque music.

The other anon was right in saying that it's like dragons. According to this bullshit webpage I found on google, there have been about a dozen dragon sightings
http://www.blackdrago.com/history/sightings.htm
There have been maybe at most 10x that many female warriors in history.

A small fraction implies something like five percent. This is something like 0.000000001%.

>>188066873
>Gdansk

Is there anywhere where I can find the details of what Dickplo adds to Diplo? I can't find it.

How come you niggers try to sell up tourneys?

It takes forever to finally get to one and half the time you spend a ton of money on bets but get ganked by the AI.

Isn't faster and more reliable to make money by looting at game start? And get renown from combat? Or am I missing some secret about tourneys.

>>188069928
stop being a shitter, it's that simple

>>188069928
>It takes forever to finally get to one and half the time you spend a ton of money on bets but get ganked by the AI.
git fucking gud

>>188069928
just stop being bad

>>188069819
it adds dicks

>>188069928
Go to tourney, once it starts just cltr+alt+f4 with cheats enabled

>>188070070
>>188070107
>>188070116
Even if I were to git gud (good fucking luck at low levels), are you suggesting that in that amount of time you couldn't make more money/renown from raiding/fighting?

>>188070309
you think you can make 10,000 denars from killing bandits for 15 minutes?

>>188070309
actually yes

>>188070309
selling looeters' hats doesn't make money quickly.
there is pretty much always a tournament going on somewhere and you can just ask the arena guy where they are holding one.

>>188069928
it depends in which city the tournament is in
sometimes you have a pretty even ground, others there is a retearded random clusterfuck and GL 1v1oning that horse archer with your 2h sword.

Anyways the high fighting skill helps a lot because it makes you faster than those faggots, bit of that one that increases running speed too so you can go 1 on 1 while running backwards and not get swarmed

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>>188068137
so be it, anon

>>188068137
>1257
>Not playing Nova Aetas where you can watch the world make technological advances going to knights through the end of the renaissance

>>188070309

My playthrough almost always goes

>farm bandits
>enlist to a faction lord or strategist because good luck getting any action if you join the minor vassals
>fuck off once I earn enough money
>go back to farming bandits again but this time with a sufficient army of my own
>become mercenary for lord
>go raid and fuck up my lord's enemies
>eventually enter vassalhood when I'm rich enough from all the plundering + mercenary pay

The best part is always joining massive clusterfuck battles between factions,like that one time I joined a battle between 1k Swadians vs 900 Sarranids, each led by Harlaus and Hakim, and just outside of Shariz. Shit was so fucking intense.

>>188071119
someone post the guy saying nova autism is deeper than bannerlord

>>188070587
Looting a villiage usually gets me around 5-10k denars, sometimes more.

Anyway you'd need to do some bandithattery to get the 10k since you need to make 5 500 denar bets.

>>188069581
is this >not Gdańsk or >not Danzig conversation?

I don't know what kind of defense should I use

>>188070712
>GL 1v1oning that horse archer with your 2h sword.

Not nearly as hard as you're saying. They end up against walls often, at which point you can cut down his horns, and then he's easy.

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>Tournaments are still the only proposed early game meta
I think many players tend to underestimate the amount of time wasted trying to attend tournaments that expire by the time you reach them and the RNG factor that can come into play with bullshit equipment or team arrangements.

Town quests are pretty reliable in almost all mods. Especially the following:
1) Escort cows
2) Escort Merchant caravan
3) Wipe out bandits
4) Rescue kidnapped daughter

The only town quests that are almost universally terrible are the hunt looter quest and the avenge villagers from _____ quests. Forcing peace is just not an early game quest.

--

In Native you can immediately start hunting sea raiders with either swarms of tier 1 Nord recruits and later with swarms of tier 2 Rhodok Crossbowmen. Many mods allow you to get crazy loot with early game top tier mercenaries as well (like PoP). The same mods that allow you to destroy the early game with elite mercenaries also tend to make for easy town guild quests.

>>188072335
let's hear both

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>>188070712
While I generally agree with you

>>188072491
Has the right idea about handling vermin

>>188072572
>I think many players tend to underestimate the amount of time wasted trying to attend tournaments that expire by the time you reach them and the RNG factor that can come into play with bullshit equipment or team arrangements.
get good faggot

>>188049740
>Olympic level female athletes are statistically as strong as an average guy.

This is one of the most retarded things I've read in this general. Do you have actual statistics to back up this statistic truth? Some faggots scoring some goals in soccer has nothing to do with strength, try comparing female Olympic weightlifters with the average guy or similar.

>>188072961
>that shield
what the fuck

>>188073029
While Bards will tell you of ongoing tournaments he gives no indication of when the tournaments end. This is pure luck.

There are scenarios that can be complete bullshit. Exp: Being in a large team battle and being paired with multiple low HP lords. Being in a multi-team battle where multiple teams immediately beeline for your group. Having Bow + Knife against multiple shieldmen when you further have 0 power draw.

You CAN make many of these works but without save cheesing it won't be reliable.

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>>188073083
well for starters i'm an average guy and have wrestled an olympic female athlete

Here is an article from pubmed
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17186303

>>188055796
>I've never even a compiled a mod before but I want to try the much more advanced process of merging mods

You should stop.

>>188070107
i-is there another way

>>188072929
https://translate.google.com/#pl/en/Gda%C5%84sk
https://translate.google.com/#de/en/Danzig

>>188072961
>>188072491
ok, yeah, it's doable with a bit of luck and cheese, was just the first thing that came to my mind.
In general I usually feel that the ranged weapons are added to the tournaments just to screw you over. Either you get one you're not proficient at against someone with a shield (and possibly on a horse), or there's some very proficient shooting at you across the whole arena while you're busy with some other fag.

>>188074171
To be fair, all you need to do to avoid arrows is strafe.

>>188073501
Firstly I should point out that denying men are stronger than women is retarded. That said it is worth noting that this is specifically hand grip strength. Hand grip is hardly the only significant indicator for potential strength and cannot be used as a denominator to say that the strongest women in the world are comparable to average men. A better statistic would be squats, bench-presses, and dead-lifts. In which they would still do far worse than other top tier athletes but I would BTFO of average males in squats and deadlifts. Especially as the present average is pretty bad for men.

I mean a quick google search:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Becca_Swanson

198+ Weight Class - 854 lb (387 kg) Squat
198+ Weight Class - 683 lb (310 kg) Deadlift
198+ Weight Class - 2,050 lb (930 kg) Total (best lifts in one meet)
198 lb (90 kg) Weight Class - 804 lb (365 kg) Squat
198 lb (90 kg) Weight Class - 480 lb (220 kg) Bench
198 lb (90 kg) Weight Class - 600 lb (270 kg) Deadlift
198 lb (90 kg) Weight Class - 1,884 lb (855 kg) Total

These are far beyond the male average.

>>188073341
that's strongly connected to what kind of character do you roll. Archers/HA makes this shit way easier- even if you rng'd bow+knife against AI in 1vs1 on foot you still have some ways out of this:

1. AI sucks at shielding -ezz pzz, you need 3 shoots at its right foot, AI won't make much more than 20 meters.
2. AI has good shielding. You draw your bow in proper moment and wait until it wil try to land a hit, You need head shot, but it's pretty easy to get it with some practice.
3. AI will knock you (melee vs dist mechanisms). Well, in some mods it's tough indeed, you better switch to knife at once and chamber that first blow,

Any other setup than 1vs1 on foot is your win unless you will make mistake.

>>188074472
Addendum: Women also have some subtle advantages to men. Which can be significant as the main advantage that humans have over other species tends to be endurance rather than raw power.

https://www.t-nation.com/training/strength-training-for-women

Part of me wonders how much female potential is wasted simply because men coddle them like children and women tend to act entitled and constantly lower physical standards among each other rather than raise them unlike men.

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>>188073719
>mfw i wanted to compile the mod but used mod merger instead
>only realized it now
that's what i get for being drunk and trying to mod, thanks mate.

>>188074472
Are you just going to cherrypick or do you have some statistics to back up your claim.

Because I'm the only one who's posted any statistics so far.

Talking about populations means using statistics. Singular examples are meaningless.

>>188074431
that's why I said while busy with some other fag. 1 on 1 is not a big deal, but if there's a few more of them close by it's easy to miss one sniping you from far away.

>>188075020
In hindsight, let's take this discussion to another board, we're getting offtopic.

>>188073214
how else can you play mahjong in battle

>>188075128
the virgin tourney participant
>fell but was recognized for his honor. twice.
>invests in all the weapon skills to be ready for the tourneys
>gets killed by his own followers
>never spawns on horseback
>carefully checks the roster to see if it's wise to place a bet

>THE CHAD MASSACRE
>kills all the tourney participants, even those on his own team
>deliberate aggros multiple enemies
>has never seen a character sheet in his life
>doesn't use a weapon, tears the enemy with his bare hands
>always spawns on horseback, even when nobody else does.
>bets all his money on every fight. Never loses.

>>188075020
You posted one statistic about an extremely particular form of strength and he pointed that out. What he then did was not "cherrypicking", it's completely valid to disprove a general statement by providing one example that contradicts it. This is basic logic. I think it was obviously implied and would take barely any research to confirm that the example woman he posted is not some freak outlier with all other elite women actually bench pressing at average man levels.

This whole argument is completely fucking retarded. Men are stronger than women and female warriors were extremely rare, but getting butthurt about them being put in video games is fucking pathetic and some Turk developers saying making dumb statements isn't going to cause the collapse of civilisation through historical revisionism.

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>>188070309
> (good fucking luck at low levels)
level is meaningless, the native AI is braindead retarded regardless of stats
what is important in tournies is to use commands in order to rein your men in, you don't want them running off otherwise you'll end up getting 1v5'd

>>188072491

*horse

>>188075843
>enters feasts on horseback and gains relations with the lords' daughters without dedicating tourney victory to them

>>188075950
do people seriously have trouble fighting one on one with AI?

>>188075843
Fucking perfect, waiting for the pic.

>>188075179
While I agree that this is going way off topic

>>188075892
The best of any population by default are going to be outliers. Averages don't really apply here. While it would be foolish to reject that the average male is far stronger than an average female it was a reply comparing average men to the strongest women. Even the chart for hand grip specified "Strongest female athlete" in the singular.

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>>188076182
yes, somehow

>>188076167
I like it but make it shorter

>>188076198
we need more virgin memes. Maybe "enters tourney to impress a maiden"?

>>188076398
>Maybe "enters tourney to impress a maiden"?
Yes.

>>188076182
some of the power creep mods have absolute bullshit profiencies and weapon speeds. 500 proficiency is not fun to fight against with a starting dude.

>>188076818
it's only really shitty when the weapon stats are retarded on certain weapons like in PooP, elf swords have 120 speed

>>188076987
this is why we need to kill the elves

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>>188076987
I resent the general trend for mod makers to increase sword weapon speeds and either keep Polearms completely Native or even slow them down.

God bless Morghs. And fix your shit Bannerlord.

>>188076818
oh fuck, just remembered the Warsword tournaments
not only the lords had their 300-500 proficiency and crazy strength but also everyone was in their regular gear. You in your rusty brinie vs their pimped out shit.
What an amazing fun it was

>>188077238
>win ten tourneys to get access to my special equipment, goy!
actually the lords aren't so bad once you get good gear yourself. You need to try to knock out the dangerous ones early since you can't 1v1 them

it's actually pretty fun except for the part where all the tourney grounds are glitched to high hell

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>>188076987
heaven forbid if the have <100 speed because they are then obligated other perks

>>188077227
>thrust damage is halved
>swing damage is lower
it's fine though because I have like 400 proficiency from lancing on horseback

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Is there anyway to go back to the Vanilla Version of Viking's Conquest?

Reforged edition just look really fucking gay and crashes alot

(I bought the Full Collection yesterday)

>>188077578
There should be an option from the guy you purchased it from (e.g. using steam's previous versions feature).

You can pirate it if that fails.

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>>188077574
Its a pretty dramatic difference in relative strength compared to what is most likely the Warband equivalent.

I'm just hoping we have some sexy infantry only Polearms.

>>188076398
>enters feasts on horseback
>gains relations with maidens who arent even there

and for the other guy
>lords lose renown for talking to him

>>188077487
>crush through block
>99 speed
>167 reach

why

>>188077227
polearms aren't that slow in native they just don't hit hard enough
>>188077487
PooP generally has shitty balance but 120 is way too high for anything that isn't a dagger
>>188077574
too bad about that innate polearm malus on horseback or with a shield though

>>188077760
>I'm just hoping we have some sexy infantry only Polearms.
>infantry only
god why
>want to carry a because it's sick af
>but won't because I might spawn on horseback won't be able to use it.
>It ends up sitting in my inventory for half the game.

>>188077886
top kek

>>188078020
>too bad about that innate polearm malus on horseback or with a shield though
I never noticed this

>>188077964
Because it's not 1/2 Handed

>>188078405
wiki says it's 35% but it's actually something lower like 25% or so
but basically if you use a polearm with a shield or on horseback you get a 25% attack speed and damage malus, though it doesn't stack if you use it with a shield on horseback
i think taleworlds just hated spear and shield

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>>188078148
Its my preferred playstyle and infantry only weapons are a great way to differentiate and specialized Infantry; especially high tier infantry, from Cavalry. Bannerlord is even going to emphasize "shock infantry" as a troop specialization that such Polearm troops would be ideal for.

>>188075892

I was with you until

> but getting butthurt about them being put in video games is fucking pathetic and some Turk developers saying making dumb statements isn't going to cause the collapse of civilisation through historical revisionism.

Your making strawmen and hyperbole isn't helping.

>>188076302

> Never dedicated a tourney, gains relations with every lady anyway

>>188078148
then get off your horse
though there should be a good selection of both eastern polearms to be used on horseback and western infantry polearms

>>188078571
>2000 years later
>anatolians still butthurt about shield and spear
Sad!

>>188078831
>then get off your horse
i'm mongolian you bigot

>>188078831
>>188079223
APOLOGIZE

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>>188078831
>though there should be a good selection of both eastern polearms... and western infantry polearms
without the presence of holy Rhodok it seems my only hope is in the Khuzait now

>>188079223
>mongols only had cavalry meme
>>188079806
hardly, considering the crafting selection i think we'll be fine
it's not going to be historically accurate so there'll be plenty of anachronistic weapons

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>>188080036
>crafting
I forgot about that. Hopefully I can add in "negative" modifiers like "Cannot be used on mount" to boost other attributes.

>>188080570
i hope so, having no drawbacks is a huge flaw in crafting systems

>>188080036
>mongols only had cavalry meme
i paid good money for that meme, what's the problem

>>188080570
>size slider
>not at max
this is how I know they are not americans

>PoP is just standard M&B with renamed units and factions

Ok, how about a REAL fantasy mod now, please?

>>188082920
CoMM my dude

>>188082920
PoP's real claim to fame is being one of the first mods (maybe the first?) to lock out heavy cavalry behind limited supply noble units, then later I think it was one of the first mods to have fully customizable player troops without using Morghs.

Both features aren't uncommon in mods now but it still tends to be one of the most polished mods.

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>>188080796

Mongols had disapointing bows for all I know.
I'm gonna try it, mayby PD works different in 1257, but appareantly you lost this with Hun(garian?)s in bowmaking. Or mayby I belive in autor's autism too much and that's only in 1257, dunno.

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>>188084295
what's really bothers me is why I'm sure, pretty smart guy makes menu like this?

>magage garrison
>fuck garrison, I don't need any
>leave

>>188084617
because managing garrisons with your own troops in 1257 becomes incredibly inefficient very fast

>>188084908
I see, I didn't spot that since I cheated me shitload of $
I didn't have single week on + sure, but I have silly size and tier qarrisons everywhere (i.e. 4 of them)
So in fair roll I won't be able to have even one modest, manually maintained garrison? I need to keep fief rich and so on and so on, so on?

>>188051338
Boudica?

>>188033453
I had no problem with a few female nobles. Or a few female troops. But if it's not a rarity and suddenly the world is populated with full female armies and half of the lords are not ladies, that is just fucking retarded.

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>>188082920
Right here my friend

if you're an elf-lover i'll gut you

>>188087560
please stop

>>188087598
> elf-hate
How about Geldar tho?

>>188087598
>perisniggers think they're welcome here

>>188087598
is this pic supposed to make me laugh?

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>>188087963
>if you're not literally sworn to serve an elf you hate elves
I predict you will take an axebow hits to the temple

>>188088208
>implying you can stop us
your impotent rage goes well with your impotent mods

>>188087598
fucking kek

>>188047798
New version of Custom Troop Trees: http://www.moddb.com/mods/custom-troop-trees/downloads/custom-troop-trees-03092017

>>188088636

m80 you threatened to gut anyone who loves elves that's pretty elf-hatey

And you didn't answer whether that's only Elintor or Geldar too

>>188088897
Hard to comment on the Geldar, they usually get exterminated in the first few months.

Maybe they could make a good jannissary corp.

But desu the default player kingdom noble troops are very very strong. great knights can 1v1 a dragonritter and noble cavalry archers are some of the best in the game for skirmishing. Do any other noble troops have such versatility?

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Help! I want to play the 1257 AD modded version and it's asking for a VC key. What do?

>pelinal browses our board
what an honor

>>188088897
Are you an elf?

>>188089557

The Geldar being given just one castle is a bit absurd, yes, although you can still see Geldar troops if you make your own Kingdom Geldar culture.

>>188090135

I dunno. I hate the Elintor but I like the Geldar and the Falcons...

>>188089776
just a guess but mayby

"IF THE GAME PROMPTS YOU FOR A VIKING CONQUEST KEY
REMOVE THIS LINE FROM THE module.ini FILE

operation_set_version = 1168"

I've never seen that modded 1257. so it might be whatever else 2bh

>>188089557
Maccavia > Shitty player faction.

I just started my first kingdom owning Halmar, Almerra castle, and Wercheg castle. I gave one to deshavi and the other to firentis. Is there anything i should know going forward?

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>>188092857
>using companions as nobles
welp it is your first kingdom and Native at that

>>188093002
Im playing diplomacy

>>188093002

I dunno, I use companions as nobles at the very beginning. Better than nothing.

>>188093002
w-whats wrong with using companions as nobles

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>>188093604
Immortal high levels companions=death war machines
Nobles you can find elswere.
Also you better train them as nobles from begining so they have traing, pathfinding and tactics

>>188092682
>>188092682
>Maccavia > Shitty player faction.
Maccavia is very strong in defensive sieges. Probably the strongest in the game.

But they don't have any pikeman or anything that can stop a cavalry charge

>>188093604
two or three are fine if you are in serious trouble.

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>>188093365
>>188093604
Companions are both invaluable resources (most obviously by stacking trainer) and make the worst vassals in the game. If you are not apprehensive getting vassals is inevitable even if you don't do anything. At some point the less scrupulous lords will defect or be exiled at there is always a decent chance they will move to your kingdom on their own.

What makes companions terrible lords?

1) If you promote non-noble companions to lords you will suffer a relations penality with all in-game lords (Deshavi is NOT a noble)
2) Companion lords will (almost?) always have the renown of the weakest lords if not lower than them
3) Companion lords will have no relations with any of the other lords and as such will always take or give relations losses with fief assignment
4) Because of #2 and #3 companions will make mediocre marshals
5) No way of knowing whether your vassal is upstanding or good-natured before assigning them a fief
6) Even if you do not use companions as part of your retinue due to morale issues they still make better ministers or envoys than vassals

Losing a trainer source is pretty terrible in itself. I basically define endgame as when I have enough companions to basically always have an elite army and train new elite armies within days.

>>188094470
What are these ministers and envoys you talking?

>>188094813
oh my fuck

>>188094001

But you wouldn't use companions that would fit in your party composition as nobles, so it's not an either/or choice.

>>188094813
wew lad

>>188094813
You are locked out of kingdom options until you either assign a companion or a spouse as minister. Unless you have a spouse and aren't playing a mod that allows you to use your wife as a companion it is best to take the shittiest companion that dislikes you as minister so nothing of value is loss.

Whenever you send diplomatic envoys to other kingdoms you need to send one of your companions. If you really want to maximize your resources one good way to maximize your envoys is to once again use incompatible companions and train them as persuasion bots. You can keep them in your party during dull periods by sending them off constantly (to scout enemy kingdoms) which also doubles to constantly give you rival kingdom recon.

>>188094470

Well, the way I do it is this: I pick the noble ones. You can tell which ones are noble, from their backstories. Firentis, Alayen, etc. I only give them villages in the very earlygame, then neglect the fuck out of them. What are they going to do, betray me? They won't take anything with them if they do, cause villages.

And at that point they'd be extraneous. Sometimes when their relation with me drops enough I indict them for treason myself. Again, it depends on how hard my earlygame is and whether I need an emergency troop infusion.

>>188095341

I'm not him, I knew of that, but damn if that isn't tedious.

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>>188094470
2WM vs 3WM looks pretty good
actually, looks like every point past 2 is waste (at least if you don't care about chargers and HA)
>pic related, that's imported Ymira or some other guy from native

>>188095783
How in the world do you have more total attribute points than I do at the same level!? Its even the same 1257AD companion.

But yes I tend to not care about weapon master because proficiency differences tend to be minute compared to the huge investment.

In this case we have not only a 4 vs 2 weapon master difference but your Henry has killed 398367 experience more worth of enemies. For all of that it is still 416 vs 379. With that difference I would have higher trainer / persuasion.

High shield would theoretically be good but once engaged in a melee the difference between shield and weapon parrying is pretty minimal with the AI.

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suddenly /pol/ in my 1257...

>>188096889
how's that even relate

>>188096889
who the fuck buys nigger heads

that's fucked up man

>>188096523
because it's not Henry, I wrote that...
it's Ymira

>>188096951
The fact that it's pretty much worthless maybe?

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>>188096889
Hands African

>>188097025
I thought you uploaded the wrong image by accident or something. Guess you used the companion import function and cannibalized Ymira for your 1257AD companions?

1257AD companions are a bit odd in that they start weaker than Native companions of similar levels but due to the armor system and huge amount of troops they can easily become much more powerful by the endgame.

I have also never had more power archer companions than my 1257AD companions. The high resistance / low HP shields just get completely obliterated by them. And I played 1257AD where all ranged weapons do slash damage. (I know there is a 1257AD where at least the Welsh have pierce damage bows for some reason)

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>>188096889
>>188097292
just a brute force way to make some of the African troops look African. I can't remember 100% if you can loot basic body parts but I am pretty certain you can't. Guessing these are artifacts for the later equipment that was taken from the debug mode.

When beta invites come out I feel I'm completely entitled to one. I've spent more time playing this fucking game than anyone. If I don't get one it will be one less reason to stay alive.

Is it just me or does archery seem slower in bannerlord?

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>>188097715
the ultimate 1257AD weapon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXr-Kfa4_cY

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>>188097893
>I've spent more time playing this fucking game than anyone.
Challenge accepted

I made a companion a noble, how can I get him back

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>>188098452
they are going to stay disgruntled lords that will sooner or later backstab you and you will take it like a man or bribe married women to keep them out of negative relations.

>>188098764
what's happenin in this pic

>>188097492
that's very easy thing to do and undo, she's still there. I've written down, who is who so I won't make mess when I'll be recover them (all 8).


True that bows, so ha too is something else in 1257, but so far, they were the best in dickplo. Nowhere close by power level, but they seriously do the excatly what you want from ha in general to do. In 1257 they are just my opie op undying heavy cavalry(field)/archers (at siedges)

>I played 1257AD where all ranged weapons do slash damage.
But your polearm isn't much worse than my 2h, and I had them using some heavy 2h shit (h. berdish, mw warcleaver) for 85%-90% of their entire life. On horseback, so with lot of momentum most of the time.

I'd get that 12 agi because of charger mounts and ha skill once again, but if I tried footarchers, it looks like it would be total waste

>>188098452
he/she has to make usual rout of shitty lords - get kicked out of every kingdom and left caladria, then, if you're lucky he/she might be back after few weeks or months

>>188097292
lmao

belgium simulator

>>188098263
nvm I've only got 1544 hours. I'll stop whining now.

>>188098948
Unless I am personally kiting a blob of two-hander infantry in some mods or I want to buy time from enemy Cavalry. I find mounted archery overall a waste. The AI spends too much time dancing and missing shots. Companions as infantry archers are a constant stream of death and a good Polearm assures they can OHKO any Cavalry that engages them in melee (once their AI stops flailing around)

I dislike companions as melee primary generally because in long battles they will spawn at <100% health at some point. Cavalry tends to have elite equipment (Knight template especially) and elite infantry tend to have compensatingly high stats (even in Native with Huscarls, knights once again especially in 1257AD).

>>188099201
Won't they come back as lords though? Native behavior is also for them to leave and never return.

>>188098880
Looks like Loss to me.

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>>188099645
Unless I am personally kiting a blob of two-hander infantry in some mods or I want to buy time from enemy Cavalry. I find mounted archery overall a waste. The AI spends too much time dancing and missing shots. Companions as infantry archers are a constant stream of death and a good Polearm assures they can OHKO any Cavalry that engages them in melee (once their AI stops flailing around)

true, whenever I could. I ordered them to use only melee, since HA is just slow in killing, But for some most hard battles I used them as HA. They could finish off 60-70 swadian fully recovered army themselfs, on max diff (with little bit of aid by commands ofc). They are properly equiped, so they are way stronger than any ha in game ofc (way stronger than these black kherghit raiders from dickplo, not even mention ususal kherghit vet ha).
Their everyday job is going for field as heavy cav vaegir style (no shield, 2h, 2 quivers, still pretty sturdy), and OPaf archers for siedges (crazy shit, srsly). HA itself is for special ocasions.
In 1257 you have these 68 arrows quviers so I decided to try 1h+shied, made them slightly sturdier, (2xquiver+ 2h is better setup, particulary since I won't give them a single shielding point for shit (they made tournaments major pain in the ass already anyway)}

tl;dr I can't say if this is justifed or worth using as proper setup, but I just like it, so I roll like that.


>>188099779
>Won't they come back as lords though? Native behavior is also for them to leave and never return.

all you need is export both guys and paste marked stuff from one to another, so far nothig bad has happend, I didn't try to go back, tho. (I'm pretty sure it'll be ok.)

>>188101803
kek

>>188099779
damn, you meant that lord companion, I'm bit tired %^)

they can return as lords, but they will do it like other lords- arrive in hall and ask if they can join ur kingdom since other king was bad for them. In such case you must kick them again. Eventually they will 'left the realm" and come back to tavern after some time. Tbh I don't remember, but they may still have their title. Other than that they will just act as usual companions

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daily reminder that looting is shittier deal

(wake up guys, I'll pass out soon, don't let it die)

>>188104687
I just can't find the energy to post here half the time, even when I'm actively playing Warband, like I am now. I've just run out of stuff to say to you autists.

>>188105006
suck my peener big boy

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>>188105006
still, not that bad 2bh
it's not just "ded", you didn't call anyone faggot and didn't want anyone kill himself

hey, wanna see nice autism?
took me a while, but it was totally worth it
the best part is that I don't feel any difference in general "power"
>inb4 why no cha
every Achilles has to have his heel, retarded one or not (retarded Achilles, not heel)

>>188105673
any difference in power for last 10 levels I mean

How does one go about recruiting Mongolian troops in Anon's 1257? What other special troops are there? I know he added Varangian Guard, were any others added?

>>188105673
did you already finish your dickplomacy run?

>>188106101
yup, conquered once or twice and dropped two times in state "I declare myself a victor of this game" (60% of map gotten, more or less)"

>>188105831
he roll as honorable and every 3rd, 4th tent is open for him just like that.
Then you can get some number of mongols which became 20%/80% Heavy Lancers/Heavy H. Archers
firs ones are pretty neat h. cav

>>188106450
good job slav boy

>>188106582
you need positive relations with owner of the tent, no idea how much excatly tho

>>188106614
thanks :^*
...now for 1257 w/o cheating $, I didn't even start yet
I'm riding all over the map and buy mw "some weapons" and lordly armors of every kind and go full "My little barbie" mode. And sometimes I clean shit that retarded lords of Polish Principalities do.

>>188106674
Gotcha. Another question, is it normal to have a net loss for the first week an enterprise is up and running? I've never done it before and my first dyeworks just lost 300 florins, this was the first week I got a report.