/scg/ /edg/ Elite Citizen: Star Dangerous General #198

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Reply with "pls no more ship sales mr roberto" or Star Citizen will never release.

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Second for weeks, not months

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>>188022831
pls no more ship sales mr roberto

Could we rename this general Elite and Vapourware General?

>>188022969
I don't bloody think Sharia allows it.

>>188022969
SPACE
SIM
GENERAL

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Non-shit Freelancer variants when?

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Lets post this early

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Name 1 (one) space game that's better than star citizen 2.6.3

>>188025293
darkstar one

>>188025293
a game that you can play

>>188025293
Tie fighter

>>188025293
Hellion, NMS, Rebel Galaxy, Evochron Legacy, Starpoint Gemini Warlords, House of the Dying Sun.

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>>188025992
>Anon's space games don't even have 6DOF combat.

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>>188024820
Before the end of the year >insert Smork'd.jpeg<

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>>188026426

>>188026415
Rebel Galaxy is the only 2d-ish game. All the others are 3d. Hellion's EVA stomps SC into the dirt.

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>>188024820
Who knows, maybe they'll have it in 3.3 2020

>>188026873
That just means they can hold the game longer even if they sort all the bugs out. Arbitrary vague bullshit is arbitrary, vague, and bullshit.

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>>188026873
every.
single.
deadline.

I'm trying to decide what weapons I should put on my hardpoints for my ASP Explorer.

Any recommendations?

>>188025408
Level up too fast and it's game over at the turret missions

Shame too because the game was fun until those points

>>188027536
Big shields and lots of hull with good thrusters, your ship is the cannonball with your engines being the cannon.

>>188027959
Top stuff.

>>188028089
He's not kidding. Rambroing the fuck out of some dads is the shit. Consider a Dolphin for the role also.

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>>188026873
>ECKHART IS THE ONLY WORKING MISSION GIVER
AHAHAHAHA

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>>188028417
>Eckhart is working
You guys are just out of control.

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>>188024873
>assblasted
have the clean version

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>they pick their partners much better now
by using a camera with a CCD that delivers less resolution than a digital camera I bought in 2002?
even poverty tier smartphones deliver at least 5 megapixels these days

>>188029069
>thinking megapixels mean anything
lol

>>188028340
Another time maybe.

I just want to shoot some cunts

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>hey bro, heres you're controller

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>>188029069
Its the near dark feature they are going for. It will have a sensor like a wildlife camera so it can work in almost complete darkness. A regular webcam won't work well in low light.

>>188029414
Generally, multi-cannons work in every size. You have to constantly reload at stations, but they are easy to use and do ok damage without engineering. Energy weapons don't need a reload, but at smaller sizes you are going to be there for a while pecking their hull down.

Mixed loads work also, but that is a matter of taste and there is hardly one "correct" answer.

>>188029893
I'm just trying to decide what i should have in the class 2 slots whether I put in multi cannons, lasers or even missle racks.

I just know I'll be definitely getting two lasers and two mutli cannons but what class i dont know.

>>188029638
Does trackIR work in dimly lit rooms too?Because it has double the frame rate.

>>188029638
>females of all species are hopeless exhibitionists

>>188030067
The class is determined by the mount type. Fixed is always the highest damage, turret is always the lowest. Gimbal is a good starting point to see what you like.

Turrets have a specialized place. If you are farming CZ and leeching kills off the npcs like you should, you can set your turrets to attack selected target only and go comfy mode where you just tag ships already under attack with your pulse turrets and move on.

As far as what to mount, try everything. You get 100% back on parts so you don't lose anything trying it.

>>188030327
It requires extra IR illuminators ($2 worth of leds), but the CIG one will too probably.

>>188030425
she knew what she was doing

>>188030597
>100% back on parts
still such a dumb fucking idea. fucking dads crying about losing money for fucking up their outfitting. shoulda been 10% just like the ship, it's not even a big deal. many games have much bigger resell penalties.

>>188030597
Sorry I didn't mean the mount types, I meant the medium hardpoints I've got. I don't know what to use in those slots.

>>188030327
Replying again. I would add that the track IR is already set up for IR light so it may work as is. The issue may be the whether the foip and track ir software play nice together. Without the trackir software, the 120fps may not be of any use.
>>188031009
I'm ashamed of how long I played the game not knowing that and just selling ships fully equipped.
>>188031059
I guess I'm not following. It's a medium slot so you should choose size 2, the class is the mount, and you get everything back when you sell. There is no meta without engineers, so it is more a matter of taste. Don't try to minmax at this point, just survive in a CZ and learn the combat. You won't do any real damage until you are in a medium ship anyway.

>>188031428
>I'm ashamed for not cheating
???

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I check in a few times a year to see how shit is going. Last time was 2-3 months ago. I was told to check back after gamescom as we would very likely have 3.0 (finally) by then. I am aware that didn't happen.

What if anything are we expecting out of citizencon? Are they even going to do that this year?

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>>188031635
Go cut the grass, dad.

>>188031706
More Idris footage hopefully.

>>188031706
they haven't missed the september deadline yet.
but they better hurry the fuck up.
september 18 is the latest they said it would release. it might hahahahahaha come out before then.

>>188031805
>dad
it was the dads who cried about resell, dad

>>188031980
When did they set themselves a deadline? Last time I checked (2-3 months ago) they were just saying shit like "soon" and "ts coming along." Or, at least, that's all I saw.

>>188031706
more delays on 3.0 and a huge ship sale regardless of the fact there is no fucking game

>>188032160
there were some news reports of it when it was delayed in july. based on the schedule report.

>>188031706
They've already gone back on SQ42 being shown at Citizencon, despite still claiming it'll be out this year

TL;DR absolutely fuck all. 2020 release is no longer a joke

>>188030597
>It requires extra IR illuminators ($2 worth of leds), but the CIG one will too probably.

No it doesn't. TrackIR works in everything except direct glaring sunlight, where nothing would work anyway.

>>188032108
A zero resell is tiny compared to the trillions of credits made at Robigo alone. You had anons making billions a week at a single station. Not to mention Draconis 17. I can't even fathom any feature of the game as cheating when shit like that went down.
Even post-Quince people will make money. Some anons already know how, after 2.4 is live, there won't be any point holding it back anymore and everyone will know the next trick. I'm one of the most anti-dad anons on here.
>>188032717
What you have to keep in mind is, track IR is looking for the targets that are either IR leds or reflectors for IR light. Foip needs your face to be lit up, so the lighting needs are different. I'm not at all saying it wont work, but that they just have different operating objectives is all. They may not work together.

>>188033031
If you were talking FOIP then yeah of course TrackIR won't work. But I really, really don't know who is going to use FOIP for longer than 5 minutes. I'm only interested in head tracking, because it has an impact on gameplay, not some roleplay horseshit

>>188033180
You can buy a security grade usb webcam with IR illuminators built in for less than $10 on amazon that will work for foip. From monitor distances, almost any IR sensitive camera will work.

>>188033421
those have shitty fps and won't be responsive at all

>>188032438
>>188032491
>>188032590
Thanks for the info. I guess I'll check back on the 19th and see what's what.

Its hard to keep being patient. Really feels like this project should have started to crystalize by now. Still feels like there is nothing concrete about it despite being nearly 5 years in.

>>188033031 #
>Even post-Quince people will make money. Some anons already know how, after 2.4 is live, there won't be any point holding it back anymore and everyone will know the next trick.

TELL US
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U
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>>188034428
I'm not saying shit with an open beta going on. Not that ftroop could do anything this late, but it's not worth it. You need to C H I L L until then. No one is going to Shanghai this trick.

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this schedule report is fucking miserable

>we're working on mission givers (eckhart and one other)
>inventory stuff
>ship insurance
>ship loadouts
>basic mission archetypes

>we have just now begun development of star citizen
>last fucking minute before deadline
>5 years late

>>188033031
>it's okay that the basic gameplay is shot because people just glitch the progression anyway

>>188034818
That's backwards. People glitch the progressions so bitching about a broken gameplay element is like complaining that your zipper is down after you shit your pants.
I don't play with headcannon rules. I play what is. If I have to go to Quince, or Drac 17, or pristine ringed systems, then I go. I didn't write the fucking bugs and I'm not going to be left behind because of imaginary rules that no one else follows.

>>188032438
>huge ship sale regardless of the fact there is no fucking game
They've even found ways to jew ship sales extra hard by not allowing CCUs on the sale ships. The flimsy pretense that the money is actually a pledge and not directly buying jpgs has completely gone out the window.

>>188035253
>left behind
on what? it's basically a singleplayer game.

mmo players are fucking cancer.

>>188035370
Then why do you care about in open, if you are playing solo. If it is a single player game to you then fuck off to your Asp explorer and go to Sag A for the 20th fucking time. No one cares about your RP pretend bullshit.

>>188024873
>COD IW
wow, shitizens eternally btfo

>>188035370
>stop comparing yourself to other players, their progression doesn't concern you
>stop playing the game wrong!!!!

Choose one (1), and only 1 (one).

>>188035689
COD is made on a well oiled assembly line, not exactly fair to compare most any game production to that.

>>188035598
>you don't want to glitch and grind
>you must go to sag A 20 times and be a roleplayer
this is exactly what I mean, you literally have no conception of what fun gameplay is. fucking trash. fucking cancer. kys.

I backed elite IV, not elite online: korean edition

is it worth upgrading from a python to an anaconda if i want them to both be heavy multi role ships

>>188036095
Yes because having an anaconda is a show of power and status.

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>>188036095
>>188036468
don't forget the most important part
for a small fee of course

>>188036095
Anaconda has the highest jump range in the game. It is also the only one of the three large end game ships (Cutter, Corvette, Anaconda) that doesn't require faction rank to purchase. It's the end game multipurpose ship.

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>>188036468
>>188036580
no i just want functionality

can it provide and do what the python does and better or not

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Hullo cultists and cmdrs, citizens and dads!

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>>188036970
>tfw you lived to see noctis v

>>188036719
Python is a Medium ship, so it can land on pretty mych any station or outpost.
Anaconda is unable to land outposts, since they don't have a large landing pads.

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>>188036468
>Power and Status.
>3rd world's export product.
>Literally every shitter, furrfag, dad, and his dog, have one.

>>188036580
I'm actually half tempted to get that when I finally fully deck out my future Anaconda

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>>188024873
>>188029025
if you intend to spam this shit at least make it useful

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I've completely overlooked the superpower factions in my near 70 hours of gameplay.

Can I rank up with all of them? Or does doing well with one reduce my status with the other? Clearly, I've been not paying attention and have been doing a lot of Federal missions.

>>188040341
you lying fuck. elite was released 1.0 in 2014
and cutting off the "prototype" just because they ditched it doesn't justify anything.

>>188040698
you can rank up all of them

>>188040341
>Excusing Star:Citizen's prototype, but not doing the same for Elite:Dangerous.

t. Faultist

>>188041034
There's no favoritism.He didn't even take into account that star citizen is a much larger scale project than e;d.

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>>188040965
Nice, because I definitely like prefer the Imperial ships compared to Federal from what I'm reading about them.

>>188036719
Yes, everything except dock at medium pads.

You wont care because theres nothing you want at those stations anyway, half the times theres no outfitting and theres never rares or shipyards, you cant even accidentally take missions to go there.

Plus the Anaconda can out-manoeuvre the Python with relative ease. Aside from the rebuy theres no real downside. Also you can get a little pet fighter and a credit stealing wingman too!

>>188040826
SC cultists will literally try very trick in the book to dismiss the first linked picture.

They literally foam at the mouth in disagreement because their "game" isnt even in a testable alpha state after over 3 years and $120 MILLION dollars in development.

Its the worst case of post-purchase rationalisation you will ever see on /vg/. Just wait though, one of them will call ME salty for stating this because it triggers them so hard.

>>188042116
tl;dr

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>destination station is 320,000Ls away

well, at least I can go make some food and coffee

>>188043290
>overshoots and needs to travel back another 30k manually
Be sure to grab the mug

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more realistic dev cycle for dangerous
updated end date for SC

whatever cultist threw together the old one added like a year to ED without any basis for doing so

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>>188043748
got back with 100,000Ls left, so no worries there.

nothing better than space and coffee though. infinitely comfy.

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>>188043290
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9612CgOr3lE
five minutes and fifty seconds

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5 fucking years, where is my damn videogame CRobbers?

>>188045503
No SC because of unrestrained feature bloat.
No Sq42 because of Robert's autism and delusions of being a film director.

>>188043784
All those games are shit and SC isn't nearly finished. This does suck waiting so long, and it does seem likely to take longer than anyone predicted, but I've only backed the game with $50 so I'm willing to wait if it improves the quality.

>>188047146
they literally have only just started to make the gameplay after 5 years of fucking with the engine

>>188047694
>after 5 years of fucking with the engine
and building a development studio(s)

>>188047694
And is already more playable than the rest of space games on the market.

>>188043784
>Game that is literally trying to include the mechanics of all four of the other games combined is taking longer.

I think taking CIG's to task for their recent scummy marketing and business decisions is more vaild than bitching about the game that was quite open about being rediculously over ambitious taking a long time to make.

>>188048141
>this is what cultists actually believe

>>188049565
no they promised november 2014, give or take 18 months. then they promised 2016. then they promised sq42 2017. then they promised to have an alpha by june
>an alpha
meanwhile the most advanced gameplay we have is fucking 2.0 fucking around/griefing simulator where you can do ANYTHING as long as by that you mean NOTHING
it's still buggy as fuck and they keep expanding the scope when they don't even have a shell of a game

fuck the business whatever. they promised a game and they have yet to deliver much of anything. that's what to take them to task for. anything else is pure buttlicking apologism.

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>>188050146
>what we have is 2.0
You don't even know what build "we" have you dishonest fuck.3.0 was playable for public in GamesCom and CIG has demonstrated they have much more up their sleeves.
>inb4 you continue to complain that a game in alpha is buggy

>>188052316
no you dumb fuck cultist
I'm complaining that a game that should have been out years ago ACCORDING TO THE DEVELOPER is still in alpha and is still buggy as fuck
>3.0 was playable
where is it then? those canned demos mean nothing. it was "playable" at the last gamescom too. one year ago.
call it 2.6 or whatever, the feature set is the same as in 2015. zero fucking progress.

>>188052316
Buggy is one thing. Buggy is fine, as long as it's semi playable. The issue is that CIG sees buggy as a failure. So they will work up until the last minute trying to squash "one more bug"
And "one more bug" will turn into "well, we're here, might as well delay it until the next sale" which will turn into "if we're delaying, we might as well add one more feature" which will lead to "oh no. That one feature added so many more bug. Who would have thought? Better squash them"

>140k ls
long travels are a pain but the half million credits is worth the time

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I'm reshuffling my ships/packages a bit and I'll have store credits left over to unmelt something. I want something that's fun, how viable it actually is is secondard. I could get either a Hurricane or a Razor. What would you pick, /scg/?
No, "get a refund" is not an answer.

>>188056231
>I want something that is fun
there is no game so nobody knows what will be fun

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>>188056231
I hate racing and I wouldn't even want to be caught dead in a hurricane.
Go get a couple of NOX/Dragonfly speeders instead.

>>188055657
kneegrow, I had two 320k+ missions today
GET ON MY LEVEL OF PATIENCE

>source 21 Palladium
>do it
>turn in mission
>still have 21 Palladium in my inventory

What the fuck just happened? I wasn't paying close enough attention, but it seems like I still got the reward.

>>188025540
Unironically this.

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>>188040826
At this point the only improvement would be to list features, graph are shit for that
Don't take people for idiot, they'll learn how grindy ED is and the creeping features of SC soon enough, just give them perspective

>>188040826
>On 14 November 2014, one month before launch, David Braben announced the removal of the game's offline single player mode, the developers having decided that they could not deliver an acceptable offline-only experience based on the original design.[34][35] The Windows version of the game was released on 16 December 2014.[4]

>>188043784
>Starting in 2012, Elite: Dangerous was developed using Frontier Development's own in-house COBRA game development engine.[31] Frontier had been working on the game as a "skunk-works" background activity for some time prior to its Kickstarter launch,[32] with other projects being prioritised.[33]
Your lies are canceling out with his lies, game started development in 2012, not 2011, but the release date is ok

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>>188046869
>No Sq42 because of Robert's autism and delusions of being a film director.
seriously who the fuck asked for bodyscanned holywood actors and orchestral soundtracks?
what they promise was jawdropping, what they delivered so far is literally starting to be laughed at, $150,000,000 in donations and what they threw accomplished so far has been several times pointed out as something a bunch of bored modders could throw together in same timeframe for few thousands

also the ship commercials are fucking cringe, they are not selling a game, they are selling fucking virtual ships

>>188060797
>starting in 2012
yes, starting in november 2012, not january 1
the kickstarter had only concept art and some blocked out models

a few weeks later they showed an extremely basic prototype with no sound and just some asteroids
they began production only as soon as the kickstarter went through.

development of ED was extremely quick, don't try and make it seem longer than it is to make SC's continual failure seem more excusable

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>>188060797
How much of Infinite War is even a space game. Or is this like calling Halo Reach a space game or WaW a tanker game.

Does it deviate enough from the CoD formula to actually be fun. Are the space ship designs half-decent?

>>188061354
about half the missions are flight missions
it's the best call of duty in years.

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Do you guys ever fly around in shittier/less expensive ships for fun? I kind of want to buy a Imperial Eagle and deck it out since I really like the ship aesthetics/attributes.

>>188061757
I've got one with an 859m/s tooled performance engine and the black friday paint job. I named it Tyrone.

>>188061757
eagle dogfighting is still some of the most fun in the game

>>188061757

I have one built for max speed just for memes.

They should add checkpoint races as a weekly community event, then make neat debris strewn fields to do them in, and space it up by not allowing shields.

>>188061757
I still use a hauler when rep grinding/long distance travel.

Why can't they just add a fucking money sink into ED? It's all it really fucking needs and even a half assed one would help give some fucking meaning to money after you've gotten an anaconda or whatever.

Player bases/colonizing WHEN.

>>188063781
The whole premise of the game;grinding from a ship to another; is one giant money sink.

>>188063781
>Why can't they just add a fucking money sink into ED?
>what is donating for rep

>want to play ED
>all ships are parked in quince, whenever I do play ED I just grind dosh
>want to play AND do something other than grind quince, but min/max autism won't allow it while quince still exists

suffering
i am actually kinda looking forwards to quince getting nerfed, so my perfectionism can allow me to do something else in game.

>>188069753
YOU DARE CHALLENGE ME, KNAVE?

>>188069753
You, me, millerport, honorable combat

Don't be late, kid

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>>188061186
>don't try
I'm the guy who cut it, twice, if you want to be defensive remember how it was when ED left early access before planetary landing, found your video btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5JYRyhxYhI

>SC's continual failure
Let's be honest here, we are applauding game for releasing as soon as possible with minimal features, not what we were told to paid for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wsFhv_Kz38
SC scope grew much bigger than the games on that graph, CoD shouldn't even count, see >>188061354
the only failure here is how all of our space game ended as failure or lucrative scam

>>188047852
Why the fuck would they employ developers to twiddle their thumbs for a few years whilst they 'build the development studios'?

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so, first time playing since before the horizons release, got the expac and shit

how do i make good solid shekels now? spoonfeed me anons

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>>188061101
Wing commander favorite is Mark Skywalker. He was in the old wing commander series. And we did specifically ask for those things back in 2012.

If you actually go back through and read and watch the stuff you clearly either weren't around for or weren't paying attention too, you'd realize all this weird shit, including the face tracking, is stuff that was discussed and received enthusiastically years ago. The scope of the project has grown, but not nearly as much as people would have you believe, it was always ambitious beyond realistic present possibility, but that is precise the ride we all signed up for. It is wearing thin on me for sure, but I'm not going to pretend I didn't sign up for a long wait for something that may never come together. SC is a dream, some dreams come true, some don't we don't know yet which SC is, all we can do is wait.

>>188073513
john rhys davies was in wing commander IV as well

>>188070671
yes elite probably released too soon to cash in on the christmas shekels. but there's a big difference between needing 6-10 months of polishing and taking years to get to a basic level of features

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>>188072164
Go to Quince. Closest station to star. Get good rep with the local factions. Might require a few mission runs or donations. When you get enough rep to do planetary scan missions, cycle the board until you get a buttload at a time. They all lead to the planet closest to the station, a short SC skip away. All the scan missions lead you to the same scanning object on the planet's surface. All the active missions will be completed when you scan the object. Suicide --> spawn at station --> turn missions in --> get dosh.


You will need a cheapo ship to keep rebuy costs down, as well as an SRV hangar with SRV. Both are available at the station. If your rep is high enough and you get a good roll on missions, you can earn 20m~ credits on a single 5 minute trip.

>>188070671
using "accessible" is just another dishonest trick to hide how long it's been in alpha compared to the others

fucking cultists

>>188070671
Who even made this fucking list anyway. Aren't these all just the games Derek said were supposed to kill interest in SC.

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Best part of the entire presentation.

>>188075335
>Who even made this fucking list anyway. Aren't these all just the games Derek said were supposed to kill interest in SC.
The answer is in the only name you mentioned. It's pretty fucking obvious, retard.

What weapons should i use for cutter to PvP?

>>188052780
There's no point in releasing a build that is unplayable because it costs money and media will criticise them. Especially since they have already done some work on it, releasing a half fixed build is still inexcusable to the media.
They don't want to stop adding features to a release build because that release version will be getting the bugfixing because its what the people are playing. If they add features to an alternative build, they'll have to merge them later down the line, which creates more bugs.

>>188079027
>There's no point in releasing a build that is unplayable because it costs money and media will criticise them.
CIG has tragically mismanaged their community interaction since the beginning. That is why they can't release something with bugs in it. Their communication is so fuck poor that they can't manage expected bugs in an alpha without endangering the entire project.

>try NMS again
>my base is all fucked
>still laggy af
>Exit to desktop

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holy shit.equipping a DBE is way more expensive than i expected i poured almost 10m on it and still need to buy and upgrade shit
any suggestions?

>>188082120
The other anons can probably explain this better, but apparently you are supposed to ignore the fact that you don't have money and excellent ways to make money for your goals are still available and just have "fun" instead.

>>188082120
Go to Quince, anon.

>>188082440
>>188082739
i was talking about my build. i like to make money dicking around and taking random missions everywhere.
its also more fun than griding in the same spot all day

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>>188082120
General purpose ships have a lot of large internal components to support all the roles they can handle, which all cost a lot of cash to upgrade. Buying the basic hull is actually one of the cheaper parts.
I mean, that 5A FSD alone is 5mil; over three times the cost of the hull.

Compare with an Imperial Courier purposed for combat which runs 2.5mil for the hull but maxing it out runs less than 7mil total.

Also buy your ships and gear in Li-yong Rui systems for that 15% discount on everything.

>>188083727
>15% disscount on everything
this good to know, will bookmark it in case i want to buy more ships. kinda want a dedicated fighter for massacre missions

>>188082120
>>188083727
Outfitting cost is driven by the size of the four major modules: Power plant, thrusters, FSD and shield generator. These cost multiple times what all the other components do, so the larger those ones get the faster the cost ramps up.

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gotta love those star cuckizens arguing over yet another ship for sale the 600i, haven't seen a bigger bunch of retards ever. chris roberts really needs to handover the information about backers so governments around the world can sterilize them all.

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>>188076893

>>188089669
>spergpost
When's line of defence being released again?

>>188090038
before sq42

>>188088562
To some degree it's nice just seeing that even some of the cultists are starting to realize how hard CIG is manipulating them. It gives me hope that maybe we'll soon see a jpg sale that actually fails to give them any significant amount of money.

>>188090102
coolest story ever, durrick.

>>188090815
yes it is I, derek. I have single handedly delayed 3.0 for over a year by constantly harassing developers at CIG by any means. including moles planted by my loyal goons within the development teams, even in high positions. chris doesn't even suspect a thing, the poor fool thinks he's actually going to be making a game.

but very soon now my team of lawyers will begin devastating litigations that will result in an ELE that will completely crash the project. within three weeks. and the process of shifting the remaining scam citizen funds into the development of line of defense will begin. that money is MINE.

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>>188090038
>>188090815
Classic if not cultist then derek (or goon) response

Wipe the brown off of your nose

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>>188090682
What about this seems shady to you? It's just standard business practice!

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>>188092919
I wonder why they keep doing this...

>playing though KOTOR again.
Will we ever get pancake freighters in sc?

>>188094747
just let chris know, he would love to put on another ship on for sale, maybe for a cool $500. star cucks would eat it up, im just mad i cant scam retards out of their money like him. truly an inspiration.

>>188080101
Its not about their own community being not ok with bugs. Its the general public, people who haven't bought the game yet. They are a revenue stream and have to be taken into account when it comes to matters related to cash flow. This is what matters to the landlords of the office buildings they work in, insurance companies, and again the general public.

You can't manage the expectations of some random person's
oncept of the q and a process.

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what race in eve is the master race?
what am I in for?

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>>188095002
only retards object to continued sales, they fund the project, the art dept is full of designers and concept artist that are being paid and concepting new ships will add much needed diversity to ship encounters in the eventualy game, and the community loves them. The ship pipeline is not holding up development and in fact its seems to be the only thing working properly, no doubt in part at least because it's what makes the money, so shipart has more pull within the company and can get more/better people.

The deception surrounding the sales, the marketing department kikery is objectionable, but to say they should stop accepting money that people genuinely want to throw at them is silly. They're going to be making more ships one way or another, the universe will need dozens to hundreds or ship types to be "immersive". The game will suck is people instantly know what they are facing and how it will be configured and whether the stats favor them the minute they see a ship.

In particular, if you want less than legal gameplay to be anything but intensely repetitive and boring, you're gonna need a wide variety of freighters, semi-combat ships and Utility craft.

I happen to like the Star Wars Pancake freighter aesthetic and hope a we get a few of them.

>>188095728
the project was funded at 20 million
everything after that is just a cash grab

>>188095830
>thinking you can do anything with 20 million
LOL

>>188095928
do your part cuckizens, write more checks out to chris, heard his wife needs some acting classes, she is going to make it big in Hollywood and its all thanks to fine cucks, i mean backers like you. when are we going to sterilize the lot of you.

>>188095703
>Master Race
Amarr. Religious fanatics seeking to subjugate or eliminate the entire galaxy, as per the will of God/The Amarr Theocracy. Kept entire other factions as slave populations. They were the first humans back in space, first star empire after the collapse of the EVE gate.

Gallente are SJWs, who split from Caldari for MUH FREEDOM to be degenerate and devolve into hedonism.

Caldari are corporate cut-throat thoughtslaves worshiping money and the state to the almost complete expense of the individual. Basically a military industrial complex turned government.

Minmatar are the former slave populations of the Amarr empire who broke free, they wear MUH LIBERTY paint but they're basically tribal low tech space orks. Also they're literal space negros.

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>>188096306
>cuck cuck cuck...

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>>188099146
Is this more your style?

>>188043784
This one is the best so far.

Needs to have NMS updated though too, the latest patches have made it into something reasonable. Still not worth being included in these threads but just to show how bad SCs cycle has been.

STAR CITIZEN like games

Grimoire
Duke nukem forever
Owl boy

All took forever, all forgotten within two months of release

>>188102283
owl boy was actually good though

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>>188024873
>nothing out

>>188104506
Well, just wait another 7 years and you'll get you own "throwback" game. :)

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>>188104552
>mfw SC is finally released as a dance dance revolution mod.

>>188082120
D rate life support, 7 minutes is more than enough and if you're too far out more minutes wont help you.
If you have spare power knock the powerplant down a size and get a better distributor if you want to use your gus.
B rated sensors are dumb, D or A rate only.
You dont need an AFM unless you're going out into the black.
Manifest scanner on that loadout makes no sense since you dont have hatch breaker or collector limpets to gather the cargo, use something else, are you even going o do piracy?
You could probably save some cash in the short term by running size 3 biweaves and and extra size 4 cargo.
Surface scanner with weapons on a small ship is on odd choice since inside the bubble is mostly explored and pays very little and outside the bubble weapons arent needed.

Be sure to swap out cargo for passengers at some stations, the payouts for "deliveries" can be a lot better and build your explorer rank quickly.


People stop building multi-role ships and just build them for a direct purpose. You can store and swap stuff all the time so its not like you're locked and forced to keep shit gear.

So I wonder how long it will take for people to realise that they are paying people to defend Star Citizen in this thread?

One .jpg sale is enough for a few weeks pay of shilling and the amount of vitriol and effort put into defending such an obviously broken project is staggering. I find it difficult to believe anyone is that emotionally invested after 5+ years of not having a game to play.

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>>188107880
Bruh, just post a space ship if you wanna bump the thread.

>>188107459
>7 minutes is more than enough and if you're too far out more minutes wont help you.

That'll change come 2.4 and we can refill our life support air supply.

>running size 3 biweaves

Will result in very weak shields. The DBX hull is fat for a small ship and the C4 has a hard enough time covering it as it is.

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>>188108340

>>188108026
Yeah that oxygen resupply might help out in the black but even then, chances are you aren't going to blow your canopy 10000ly from the bubble and if you are then you have bigger issues to worry about than your life support.

Fair enough on the shields, I was assuming it was like the clipper/conda/aspE where the biggest slot is actually "too big" for the normal shield-to-hull size ratio.

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>>188108340
>stalking trannies on facebook
get a life faggot

In honor of the current happening, lets talk about privately own nuclear weapons, and how space games really need to have them.

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Had this happen recently. I like how they add bugs we don't to the game but can't add the bugs we do want.

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>>188111281
privately owned superweapon would boost natural selection through the Darwin award.
I approve

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>battle detected
>kill all enemies
>game tells me to land in lead freighter and talk to its cmdr
>the hangar is locked

REEEEEEEE

>>188108747
>>188108026
I once rescued a guy who was 7000ly out (bubble nebula), had no fuel, only 3 minutes of oxygen left and was 6 hours away from the main star. Entirely possible if they log off and wait for rescue.

More oxygen is always nice but not panicking in an emergency is more important.

>>188111281
how are you even supposed to fight in space without nuclear weapons?

>>188114456
drone swarms? Limpets that boar into a hull and release bio-weapons into the life support system?

>>188114445
Well that's running out of fuel, not losing your cockpit canopy, which any competent explorer would be able to repair using their AFM.

Only the worst pilots run out of fuel and again, 7 minutes or 25 makes no difference in that situation. You're right about the panic though, that and "rushing" in the game are major killers.

>>188114456
Easily. Space ships are fragile and people are even more fragile in space.

Mass drivers, and lasers mostly, randomized movement to avoid fire and make targeting difficult, Computerized targeting using AI to aim Lightspeed weapons(Lasers) or fractional lightspeed mass drivers at extreme ranges. First person to be predictable dies to mass driver fire, if neither side scores a hit with mass drivers whoever has more wattage to dump into laser fire to overwhelm enemy armor plate or cooling systems and cook them in their hulls/vent atmosphere/cripple systems wins.

Missiles will become irrelevent once someone develops an effective Laser based CIWS/point defense system(this is already happening in the real world today) which will return focus to weapons that cannot be intercepted as easily, such as hypervelocity guns(mass drivers) and beam weapons. While this will make space combat entirely a matter of computing power and ability to dissipate heat, all run by robots at combats speeds so fast human won't even be spectators, making combat in space hugely boring, it DOES raise the near term prospect of taking missiles out of domination naval surface warfare. That would place an emphasis on the development of guns systems again, which would in turn lead to a re adoption of armoring. All this means we could see another generation of battleships or heavy cruisers built, or even more likely see the introduction of railgun armed artillery submarines, since theirs now better armor in the world than stealth and several hundred meters of water.

TL:DR space combat in the real world will always be TREMENDOUSLY boring followed by instant death due to simple lack of variables, whoever has the quickest draw and best aim on the highest velocity weapon will always win until we develop unobtainium armor or space opera style energy shielding. However naval combat might become REALLY COOL in the next 50 years.

>>188116039
you are incredibly deluded about how those things actually work

lasers aren't magic. what is diffusion. what is accuracy, have to hit the same spot to do meaningul damage.

>>188116149
in the present day, you're sort right.
but as they increase in power the time required to deal significant damage will become shorter and shorter. We already have lasers that can burn through solid inch thick steel in milliseconds, and diffusion is much less of a problem in space than it is in atmo. Laser weapons won't dominate surface combat because of diffusion, but they are already being used as point defense systems at terminal defense ranges.you can't cook a ship 20 miles away with a laser in an efficient way, but you can cook a thin skinned missiles at a thousand meters as its making final approach to a target ship. With missiles getting faster and faster you better believe money is being poured into that very idea, theres comes a point where no coventional bullet will be fast accurate and reliable enough for intercept, at extreme ranges you can use a railgun, but up close a lase is as good as instant and can be made to pack the necessary energy for destruction, its just a question of building ships with Nuclear reactor to provide the wattage, for both defensive laser batteries and offensive Mass drivers.

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>>188114456
At orbital velocity kinetic energy is more efficient than nuclear explosion, using fission or fusion up there for anything other than explosion would be a gross mismanagement of resources

>>188116149
Anon, we are already trying to use AIRBORNE LASER against SCUD like missile and the only problem we had is the power source and the loitering time.
Accuracy is merely a technical problem, diffusion as well, and you are the idiot if you believe laser have to be slow like in movie.
Realistically a megawatt pulse of a picosecond would result in all the energy being deposited in a time too short for any evasion.
And realistically again, once you've intercepted the missile the best course of action would be to be first at overheating the enemy vessel

Anyway, let's save us a lot of trouble
http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/spacegunconvent.php#id--Laser_Cannon

>>188117428
shooting down a missile on earth and a missile in space is vastly different
namely: range

>>188116536
diffusion is primarily a problem of focusing and not atmospherics, so unless some revolution in lens technology happens it probably will not get much better

a laser pointed at the moon will illuminate an area 60 miles wide

ITT: Fat unemployed weebs with access to physics.org.

>>188117943
We've hit a 10centimeter retro-reflector on the moon using a laser from Earth.
The range of laser would naturally be amazing in space, it would take days for a very fast missile to cross the distance at which a laser turret could target it
Do the math

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>>188116759
eh.
just funnel all that nuclear power into a beam like in all my sci fi movies

>>188024873
I don't know about most those games but NMS was not a custom engine. It was based on unity. There is evidence of this in the game files.

Also, CIG has modified cryengine so much that it is no longer recognizable.

{spoiler]star citizen is still never getting released[/spoiler]

You unnecessarily debunk your argument immediately with false claims.

>>188121839
Just because stuff is wrong doesn't mean other stuff cant be right you numpty.

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What's a good RES/CZ hardpoint loadout for a Corvette?

>>188124530
Post your corvette

>>188024873
>>188121839
I particularly like the 'nothing out = nothing done'
Nothing like denial to see a failed troll
disprove me this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5t0VLacNgs

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>>188128194
Y'know... I would really REALLY hate it if it turns out that you gotta stick your tongue far up the asshole of the UEE if you are to get parts for 'em capital ships and sheeeit.

>>188128194
There is nothing out. As much as you point at tech demos and prerenders, we still don't have anything close to resembling a game. Trying to hold up the never going to exist 3.0 as proof of the game is straight up cultism.

>>188124530
If you don't want to go refit and rearm you go full efficient/rapid fire pulses.

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>plebbit in meltdown over top 10 orgs getting flair

>game not even out yet
>powercreep is already a thing
how

>>188129912
It's almost shocking how they are standing up to the faggotry. There is just the tiniest bit of daylight between reddit and spectrum now. Even the flair tards are done with spectrum's circle jerk.

>>188130094
i too am a little shocked by the plebs. i think the mods are worried its not the hugbox it once was and they are trying to sure things up so cig keeps giving them free shit.

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>visit Spectrum in a first time since forever
>the fucking forum engine is version 0.35

>>188131456
The mods probably would have already squashed it except one of the mods got his org on the list, and it's like 38 on the list or some shit.

>>188131741
Yeah I saw that. How the fuck did they think they could get away with that?

>>188131681
I often wonder if it was spectrum or the lack of game updates that made the official foruma so dead.

>>188132656
That's the endemic problem with reddit. Powertripping mods of the flies that don't understand why we even need mods to begin with. They just think that it is their playground to do as they please.

>>188132793
The #General room is actually fairly decent containment for the worst cancer. The forum section is still shit, but the shittiest ones can just circle jerk directly in #General instead of filling each post with keyboard diarrhea.

so what's the trick with the quince massacre missions

do i literally just go around blowing the shit out of stuff

>>188133759
Youtube "down to earth astronomy quince" and follow his latest guide. Scan missions pay more than massacre until stacking is patched out in 2.4.

>>188128194
Oh can you play that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITHeolo4CwQ

[Trigger warning]

>>188113973
There is time out if you wait to long. I could not find the bridge once and the <5 minutes it took was enough for the mission to time out. Also if you hit the freighter enough during the fight it will agro to you and lock even if you finish off the bad guys.

>>188119342
>We've hit a 10centimeter retro-reflector
with a 60 mile wide beam yes. it's really not difficult to do.

>>188130094
I posted a thread critical of the gamescom demo and it got over 100 upboats and stayed near the top of general for some days.

there is light at the end of the tunnel

>>188109754
>Pretending she isn't hot
Execute yourself

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>>188128723
Do you "Star Citizen" will be an actual title in game?
You'll probably need something to gain it and you probably won't keep for long if you are caught as criminal

>>188137487
You could at least check wikipedia "At the Moon's surface, the beam is about 6.5 kilometers"
but that's because the starting laser have to go through atmosphere and isn't meant to kill something
It would be more serious to point out that China DO have anti-sat laser already
http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/world/china/asat.htm
>In 2005, we have successfully conducted a satellite-blinding experiment using a 50-100 kilowatt capacity mounted laser gun in Xinjiang province…The target was a low orbit satellite with a tilt distance of 600 kilometers. The diameter of the telescope firing the laser beam is 0.6 meters wide. The accuracy of [acquisition, tracking and pointing is less than 5 [microradians]."
If you start needing to armor against laser, you've basically already lost. Realistic spaceship have weakness that are impossible to compensate.

You will never do this in a space game

>>188139095
>anti-sat
LEO and lunar orbit are massively different
the dispersion is from the distance and not the atmosphere

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>>188139095
>Do you "Star Citizen" will be an actual title in game?
it will be the first achievement for starting up the game

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Good morning cmdrs, citizens and travelers

Been to any toasty planets lately?

>finding procedural rivers is dads idea of good exploration
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQSw8zVrljY

>>188140903
I really wish heat would matter more in ED. I've been to planets that are 800+ degrees and not really felt much of a difference.

>>188140903
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyqu1e7DBAA

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>>188139467
don't be silly, it will probably given to you for finishing Squadron 42 as it is already meant to give you a ship for your service.

>>188139381
Atmosphere cause more dispersion over distance so small on a stellar scale, a space-based laser wouldn't have trouble hitting the moon, the real problem will be miniaturizing and powering them.
The only way a missile would get through is if you spammed a lot of them or sent them at a fraction of the speed of light.
Maybe you could make them fake their own destruction and fly as debris, but that wouldn't work long

>>188142132
You could technically launch a missile like a railgun projectile, then activate its rocketry to increase the velocity even more.

But you'd probably be better off just using some sort of chain-rail gun instead, or space-ballistae.

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>>188100653
Not normie enough.

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>>188104552
Fucking hell I've seen this somewhere
https://youtu.be/bqFhzodjpp8

>>188130094
>>188137709
Yeah there is starting to be unrest over there, I still got downboated overall when I posted something negative about the press and con access at gamescom, but before I got culted there were quite a few people agreeing with me and I was positive for a while.

>>188143453
Non- solid objects tend to have trouble with hypervelocity launches. Build me a missile composed of engine, guidance package and warhead that can withstand the g-force of or being accelerated to fractional lightspeed without simply crumpling under its own inertia. Theres a reason railguns fire slugs made of high toughness high hardness metals like tungsten or alloyed steel.

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BTW to the Quince grinding boys:

I don't know why but, I seem to be getting more and more scan missions more consistently after taking massacre missions like an anon mentioned before.

Might be worth exhausting 3 slots to get more scans overall.

Glass the spikes, space war now!

>>188145997
I was thinking it would be difficult, it's still a possibility but I guess it would be "better" to just fire them in a straight line as a swarm and let them do minor corrections. There's probably an optimum range where the speed of a self propelled missile or rocket would cause more trauma than a solid rail slug, but it's hardly my field, or most people's.

Would be amazing to see ships firing rails so powerful they push the ship firing backward. Sort of like current? destroyers.
>>188146768
Probably something to do with the background simulation, killing dudes might trigger the other faction to try get revenge by messing with the signals of the other.
If you're still doing Quince you guys should also be exploiting the donations too, there's a way to make it infinite so you're only limited by your credits

>>188149427
the guns on DDs have never been sufficient to push the DDs around, 5inch sheels simple dont have enough mass to push against a 2,000 ton destroyer in a meaningful way. Modern DDs only mount 1 gun, back in the day they mount usually between 3 and 8 guns, but still never more than 5 inchers, or 6 inchers in some cases. The ships ever to mount guns larger enough to actually push the ships are last generation BBs like Yamato, Iowa, Maybe NC and South Dakota classes as well. Fast-Battleship types with many extremely large guns on realtively light hulls built for speed would move sideways slightly, but measureably when firing a broadside. I remeber reading somewhere the the Iowa's would slide about 4 feet when all 9 16 inch guns were fired broadside simultaneously.

>>188024873
no mans sky is just as shitty as Erectile Dysfunction, but cost 1/3 the money, and had 1/5 the people?
Damn Ftroop, you need to step up you game.

>>188142132
>a space-based laser wouldn't have trouble hitting the moon
you're right. but it would have trouble hitting a spaceship that is as far away as the moon
S C A L E

>>188152489
how much have you wasted on SC anon?

>>188154570
zero. If it comes out in 2 weeks (money pit) then maybe.
Im just sad I wasted money on Korean grindfest. Thats a never wont stop being mad.

>>188156261
then what are you even doing in this general if you're shitting on every game that's supposed to be discussed here? do you just hate yourself enough to subject yourself to things you dislike?

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>>188156772
What are you doing here, since 2 games are complete shit and one is in dev hell?

3 non games and youre still here? Are you an hg retard, a brabo cock sucker or a Roberto de scammo ball boy?

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>>188153021
Not really, the range is counted in whatever light-minute it would take for a target to dodge, stabilizing the ship and avoiding vibration is just a matter of design and it's impossible to hide a ship.
I'm not saying it will fit nicely in a pretty looking turret but a kill sat built for defense would have no problem.

I wonder how CIG intend to avoid torpedo swarm to one shot a capital ship

>>188156261
>Im just sad I wasted money on Korean grindfest. Thats a never wont stop being mad.
I don't even want to waste my time on Free2pay game

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>>188157370
Lmao it's amazing how someone can basically admit to being in a general that they have no interest in, other than to radiate how much of a miserable shit stain they are, but then simultaneously act smug about someone enjoying one of the games this general is dedicated to.

This is some next level misery. No matter what levels of smugness you attempt to ascend to, your position here will always be pathetic.

>>188158086
I'm just here to laugh at shitizens.

>>188158014
now try and make a response that actually has anything to do with the post you responded to you fucking retard

>>188158698
I'm not sure that makes your position look better in the way you might have hoped.

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grrrrr am angry bout spess vidya

>>188159941
>replying to the wrong goon

baka

remember when /edg/ used to kamikaze on lave dads and artifact bomb the money maker stations of the month?

what happened? now we have become the dads. just looking for the next cheap credit fix like junkies.

>>188162186
Can't UA bomb Quince because of no black market and now FD are stuck because you have an army of kids expecting an easy way to get rank and credits instead of the time sink they hoped to design

>>188161524
No, I'm quite certain I meant to drive home the point that existing on this board only to troll doesn't somehow elevate anyone's opinion of said troll. It's just

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>>188162186
>kamikaze on Lave dads

I did this for a bit around stations, eventually just started interdicting and killing fucking everything in that system. At the time it was possible for dads to just alt-F4 out of the game in-combat without repercussion so I basically quit playing as a result.

Didn't start up again until last week. Still intending to be the dick-ass pirate, but this time in FdL. I don't even want cargo, I have enough dosh, I just want to shit on carebears.

>>188165131
I don't know where I was going with this blogpost, I think the point is that for the longest time the only feasible way to play Elite was to become one of the dads, so that's what the few who decided to stick on did.

>>188165131
>At the time it was possible for dads to just alt-F4 out of the game in-combat without repercussion

FD removed this? Do tell!

>>188166438
I think they warn and ban for combat logging now.

>>188167939
Nope.
They only do that to """"""griefers"""""" because being killed in a multi-player game where you can literally vanish is too much for some kids and their fathers in law

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Don't get into pirate npc cutlasses in the PU

>>188174865
the rework will affect those too right?

>>188128814
I don't know about that. It seems like you'd lose more time overall from having bad TTK without any kinetics than you would from occasionally docking up for a reload.

>>188140903
>Plant life and habitations on a planet hot enough to melt lead

WEW. i accidentally shoot a friendly and almost got obliterated by all npcs in a RES site.
how do i get rid of it??

>>188178538
Psh, I'll do you one better, amigo.
I didn't wait for a wanted space deviant to finish scanning before I attacked and I got a bounty put on me for attacking them, and was promptly blown to SHIT moments after the space cops finished downing him.

and can't you just go to a station and pay that off?

Is mining actually a viable way to earn space dosh? I've never actually tried it before

>>188178332
Sure would be a comfy planet to live on!

>>188178538
Leave the system you have a bounty in and wait for the wanted timer to clear before returning and your bounty will go inactive. Then you can pay it off at your leasure or ignore it; only hunters will Kill Warrant scanners will know you're wanted.

>>188026743
Ship Tans when?

>>188178538
>>188179302

Can't pay off bounties until they expire and then become legacy fines after your next hyperspace jump. A 200cr fine for shooting somebody will expire in a few minutes but actual murder (6000+ cr) takes a week to expire.

Alternatively you can switch to a sidewinder, make sure the last place you docked was a station controlled by the faction where you're wanted, and then suicide. You'll be forced to pay your bounty off to buy back the sidey but in doing so the bounty is wiped.

>>188180659

Not really. It's comfy though.
Mining up some of the mining-only materials and then mission board hopping for refinery missions needing those materials will make more dosh than just selling it.

>>188182403
When shipfu anon comes back.

>>188178332
On the ocean floor there are hydrothermal vents that hit 700 degrees with life around them.

Hows this game doing so far?

>>188183421
There's no complex life directly in the heat, plus the pressure at those depths and the thermal conductivity of water raises the boiling point and makes it easier for microorganisms to thermoregulate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHoR47XegqE&feature=youtu.be

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>>188036580
>Ended up buying the Gold Vulture skin since I was planning to stick with it
>Now the Clipper is looking more appealing every passing day
What do I do lads?

>>188184495
WHERE IS THE GAME ROBERTS

>>188185256
Please understand

>>188183428
What game?

>>188185154
You can't fight it. You must BASK.

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>>188182536
Yeah there's already been a few. I looked online for the aurora one to link you, because I know it exists, but I'm not a weeb, so I don't have it saved.
Have a butt instead.

>340k Ls travel
Holy shit this is cancer

>>188095359
>The general public hates SC because it's buggy
The general public hates SC because it's buggy and at the same time sells people $400 virtual spaceships and has been doing so for 5 years without delivering any semblance of a product.

>>188190982
>The general public hates SC
It does?

>>188189256
Hutton Orbital claims another victim.

>>188191161
The general public thinks it's stupid nerd shit and they aren't at all surprised that you can be pressured/bullied into spending hundreds to thousands of dollars on shit that doesn't exist. Hell the general public consists of the same people who probably beat you for your lunch money in high school.

after 24 jumps i arrived to quince... what now?

>>188191541
>The general public thinks it's stupid nerd shit
It does. I gotta see this man.

>Hell the general public consists of the same people who probably beat you for your lunch money in high school.
I never really got the whole highschool obsession you yanks or japs have. Like in general, and not just Chad Roberts making you buy his space ships.

>>188191476
Not even Hutton, it's H.G wells point

>>188191476
Hutton is .22ly away. That's on a whole other level than the 15 minutes it takes to go 340k ls.

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>>188189256

>>188173546
>dream of a completed game.jpg

>>188192305
I don't know about Japan but the American public education system is basically hell and everyone emerges from it with some kind of permanent trauma.