/scg/ /edg/ Elite Citizen: Star Dangerous General #197

first for SC never ever

>>187723295

Just check the forums.
I remember some devs gave us answers in a thread a couple of month ago.
I think it was in late June or something.

They didnt explicit tell us that all of those 3 where scrapped, but they are not in the plans at the moment and maybe not for many years because of how the game engine and netcode turned out.

Vanguard a shit

3.0 soon

SQ42 when?

Its the reason I pledged :(

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*empties your wallet*

>>187724141
>2017
>asking "when"
We should be happy if it even releases late 2018 at this pace and level of ship sale autism

Just 2 more days until we'll see an increase in bugs discovered and a decrease in bugs fixed.

3.0 Februaru 2018! I called it

>>187723475
They turned down dx12 in favor of Vulcan just so they can support Linux.

>>187725051
Yes, but that still doesnt mean Linux support will happen within the next 5 years.

CIG have a ton of other useless shit they want to add to justify the time.

Chris aint interested in Linux.

He wants ships and flashy unimportant stuff like FOIP.

>Erin saying they want to show S42 at CitCon and still aim to release it this year
S-sure

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Linux

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>>187725706

Most likely no releases this year.

I feel bad for Erin who said they expected to give us 2-3 major releases this year.

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>>187723847

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>>187725706
WwwwwWhat!? fucking Erin said that at gaymesCON???

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>>187726243
Just Verse my shit up.

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my face if Erin loses his shit over his broder and bails the project

>>187728759
brother*

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>>187728759
Seconded.
If Erin did leave the SC project then that's a definite sign of how shitty things are going.

>>187727956
He said it in an interview he gave with some German youtube channel at Gamescom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bCVKjce8iU

Beta 3 of 2.4 is available for Elite Dangerous.

What do you guys think will come first, Elite 3.0 or Star Citizen 3.0?

>>187729885
Word of Warcraft 3

>>187729885
X4

>>187729885
i cum first tehe xd <3

>>187729885
Half-life 3

>>187729885
>implying either will.
You think ED is dead now, wait until they kill Quince for good. The only thing that saved most people last time was Quince not actually being broken. When the best you can manage is a few mil per hour for the 3 billion it takes to have a murderconda, nobody but barely functioning autists will do that shit. As widespread as autism is here, there just isn't enough people in the general population that deep into the spectrum to support the game own its own.

>>187731484
I don't understand Quince for noobs. It's like you start a new game and the first thing you do is grind for a week to get every ship and you're top imperial rank.

Even for longer term players repeating those same missions over and over just doesnt seem worth it.

If anything it's just created a small boom in players who most will likely quit due to having nothing to work for and no real connection to the game itself.

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>cultists talking about ships for their nogame
>dads grinding for anacondas again
>nms owners still in denial

what a terrible thread

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Ive seen things you people wouldn't believe.

Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate.

All those JPEGS will be lost, in time, like tears in rain.

Time to die.

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>>187729610
That's not the Erin I know.
It's not like him to be like his brother Croberts who would fucking spoon-feed gutter-trash to his backers by hand if that were gpmma make as good money as selling jpegs.

>>187729885
Even SC will manage 3.0 before ED will. I doubt Fdev even has a plan for what feature they could add to get people to cough up for another season pass dlc.

>>187731943
That's easy to explain. Making money isn't gameplay, no matter how you do it. Once you stop playing the game to do a repetitive task to earn money, you aren't playing the game, you are earning money to hit an objective.
Redirecting what you play in game to line up with making money is an alternative, but fucking paltry gains compared to dedicating yourself to getting money out of the way of what you want.
It's not any different than speedrunning WoW to max level. That can be done in under 2 weeks, easily. Getting a A rated conda is just the beginning. There are still hundreds of hours to get it to 10/10ths and fit your style after you choose a few wrong loadouts, THEN you can actually start playing the game.

>>187732210
>nogame
>noships or content
>not worth playing or talking about

Yet we are still in the greatest era for space simulators.

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Space is fun
No mans sky is fun
Hello games is fun

>>187732250
gpmma ~ gonna

>>187732714
I really feel like it's a totally different school of "gamer". I never understood the concept of hammering to max level to "start" playing the game but then again I never got into Mmo games. I guess I'm just too casual or something.

>>187732747
My computer literally refuses to launch nms after I finished the big questline and reached the center of the Galaxy. I choose to believe this means I beat the game.

The game is fun. If it's not fun, why bother?

>>187733118
Depends on the game, sometimes its not max level, it's just reaching what ever is the point where there are no more "you must be this tall to ride" signs locking off the game's content.

>>187733118
https://youtu.be/yxpW2ltDNow

This helps explain who game devs are targetting.

>>187733529
Fair enough, that's a lot of work to just grind out, but to each their own.

I'm almost triple elite anyway, decent ranks too and every engineer done except 2 (one I need elite and the other is useless) so I still have a chunk of "work" to do to get the big faction ships, but I don't mind.

>>187732634
Theyll probably just release the next major patch(after 2.4) as 3.0 anyway and sell the next chunks as individual DLC.

Space legs and atmospheric landings is all they have that people are shouting for anyway, that and content. And unless they're going to change style and start charging real money for ships (they might since horizons has exclusives) I can't really see much either.

I'll still buy a season pass or whatever, because I'm hooked to the grind and invested too many hours already.

>>187733860
>extra credits
kys

>>187734236
I wish I had haters like that, holy shit. Show us on the jpeg where the youtube man touched you.

>>187734512
they're pretty much flat out wrong about almost everything they say

if you want to make games, always do the opposite of what EC says

>>187733860
Just gave it a look, makes sense but then again if you were applying that video to how I've been playing elite, I'd be almost a square on the chart. Either the games designed that way, or Im autistic enough to play that way without realizing. I'm guessing it's more game design than me being special

>>187734673
They post opinion pieces. Ofc it isn't going to work for everyone. Not only are you free to disagree, but you would be much less of a faggot if you to actually have a fucking spine and debate the topic you disagree with instead of memeing for attention.
They give a book report on Bartle's Taxonomy. I was just pointing out to the other anon that he was not casual for not wanting to grind, different personality types have different goals. Is there something about that you don't like?

>>187732714
you're a fucking retard, dad
elite is and has always been about the building up part

when you have the most expensive ship and the highest rating, the game is effectively over. it's called "elite" for a reason. the rating is a goal to strive for.

it is not the beginning, it's the end. and you should go back to shitting up wow instead of giving harmful advice that will make people grind the fun away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MNFWhCw8dg

>>187735309
none of those personality types are desirable. they're all on some kind extreme and need meds. all of them are high on some kind of extrinsic factor and are just there to shit up the game.

it's based on a shitty early mud, which is for faggots.

once you get rid of them or minimize their presence you can start having people who enjoy games intrinisically play.

>>187735358
>when you have the most expensive ship and the highest rating, the game is effectively over.
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, anon. That is literally the most dad thing I've seen in several threads. You're gonna tell me a Asp is all I need next, right?

>>187735586
what are you gonna do with your maxed out anaconda you fucking retard? you've put 800+ hours into the game doing shitty repetitive boring tasks. so now you're completely burned out and you discover that "there's nothing to do" and you quit and cry like a baby. because you're retarded

you skipped all the actual gameplay with your exploits and grinding. the real gameplay are all the activities you do to progress in the game. your progress being the money and the ships you can buy for them. you should do things that are fun, and enjoy getting to the next milestone, not grind until the "endgame", then quit and call the game shit for having no "endgame"

the grind is literally all in your head

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>even the toilet paper in cig office is hexagons

>>187735520
>none of those personality types are desirable.
Dude, all that is left after those is sociopath. You really need to fucking chill for a second and realize that it is a problem if you see the 4 major personality types and hate all of them because you are projecting yourself on to it and hate what you see. Those are only descriptors, and not representative of actual people. If you see a part that resonates with you, that doesn't mean that you are automatically that person and trapped in that description forever. The other anon said he would be a square on the chart. I think most well rounded people would be. The question is where the center of your square is.

>>187735982
>what are you gonna do with your maxed out anaconda
Whatever the fuck I want.

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>>187736397
looks like an octagon to me

>>187731484
>>187731943
What exactly is happening in Quince?

It's too far for me to explore just yet.

>>187736440
no actually whats left is mentally stable people who don't need games to validate themselves in some way, but can enjoy them for what they are.

I think you're the one projecting here. I don't have a need to do any of those things.

>>187736491
They would have made it hexagons, but the toilet paper company can't deliver that kind of fidelity.
CIG will probably buy a toilet paper production company and refactor the fuck out them to fix this.
>>187736557
Youtube "down to earth astronomy quince"
>>187736673
>tells me to kill myself
>tells me he doesn't need this shit
What? I was replying to another anon and you had to jump in and show off your autism for what reason?

>>187708597
The only reason that people play doctors in ss13 is in hopes of murdering someone while maintaining a plausible excuse for why they're at the crime scene, are covered in the victim's blood, and the victim's corpse is covered in forensic evidence pointing towards them. That and having access to the very best medical supplies for their own selfish consumption.

The only time they actually help other players is when they leave a few first aid kits in the waiting room or drag warm corpses over to the geneticist for cloning.

The only reason that the geneticist helps people is because the cloning process is an extraordinarily simple affair that is a small price to pay in an exchange for an opportunity to pursue his true goal, mutating himself in an unstoppable cross between the incredible Hulk and professor X.

>>187736557
Probably the last safe credit exploit.

>>187736557
Apparently it's a bunch of shit you scan with a lander equipped swidewinder, then kill your self to turn in data quicker, then repeat the process getting tons of cash and emp rank in the process, I think.

>>187737178
>>187736557

The mission board was typically generating planet scan missions from only a single planet.

You'd stock up on missions, goto the planet, find the spot and scan the one beacon. Then every mission would count as complete.

Blow yourself up and respawn in base and you keep the mission data. Turn in and you just earned like 5 or so million, a bunch of materials and cargo, rank and faction rep

Also I think the scans would trigger for every commander in the instance too. Plus something about passengers not caring what beacon you scan in a system.

Now it's partly fixed, but it's a little more tricky

>>187736673
>>187736440
>>187735520
Idk who's who, but, there's 4 main personality types of people in general anyway. The anon who said sociopath is the 5th is probably correct.

Tmnt, sex and the city, l4d,
Blood, piss, shit, bile
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_temperaments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-TS2bHvsNI

>>187738864
The ORG Of ONES Who CONSORT With BEASTS !

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>>187412125
>>187447916
Because there was an anon asking in the last thread. This is the newest version I could find.

>>187729610
The link is dead.What's going on?

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>>187733860
Clearly the Explorer are the superior race, only we care about complex gameplay mechanics whereas the other caste can be pathetically fooled by half-assed trick, a scoreboard for achievers, any social gimick for those entertaining fools or a lazy lack of anti-griefing mechanics to attract psychopathic killer.

As you see, only the Explorer master race will be picky and ask designer to step up their game with more sophisticated everything (be it sophisticated murder, difficult achievement or constructive cooperative/social gameplay)
We are the force pushing video game toward greater place.

I'm not joking, that's why the Carrack will be best ship

>>187741373
>plays eve,elite,nms
>"discovers" procedurally generated trash over and over agin
>we wuz master race

>>187741192
ive got no idea what im reading

>>187744269
You're reading an upgrade path tree for ship in elite dangerous. I don't play elite and don't own it, and even I know that just from being in proximity for so long.

>tfw I am almost desperate enough to buy E:D
after 4 years of refusing due to early shillery and dislike for both its flight model and ship style. Almost. I'm still pretty sure it's actually a terrible job-sim and not game though. I don't mind grindy gameplay but the idea of economic stuff being nerfed for being too profitable enrages me.

>>187741568
Those game wouldn't exist if they were made by explorer, they would have be pruned for not having real gameplay or enough content
I say that as someone who would run through a fucking procedural empty desert so long as there's survival or navigation gameplay

>>187744979
get people to play with and you'll enjoy it. sale is almost over mate. time to decide

>>187744979
it's not "economic stuff" it's literally a glitch

the things that are supposed to be profitable were never nerfed, in fact I think they still have a problem with rare trading being disproportionally profitable compared to everything else

>>187744979
>I'm still pretty sure it's actually a terrible job-sim and not game though
>I am almost desperate enough to buy E:D
The state of space games desu

https://youtu.be/fmF3tTeEaZQ

New Bugsmashers.

>>187741192
There needs to be another infograph highlight which ships would be better for each circumstance.

You wouldn't pick the Asp Explorer over the Diamondback Explore for traveling since the Diamond has the further range in the game.

>>187732747
Stop reposting the same images, you shit. Some of us have memories that extend beyond the last time roberto promised something.

>>187745705
E:D is only a job simulator if you make it one. You can have fun with the cheaper ships. I expect SC to be the same.

>>187746274
Oh my fucking god!

I just realised that Roberto-san is going to be the next Sean Murray when SC collapses as hard as NMS.

BUT, this is if it gets released and not going away as vaporware after 6 more months of 3.0 delays.

>>187746160
It's supposed to be a quick and easy guide over which ships do what, and how much their baseline cost is. If the person reading it has a kernel of sense to him he'd read up on the different ships before making a final decision.

>>187745823
they should make a show called "game releasers"

>>187746160
That's a relatively recent change though and the infographic probably predates it.

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>>187746274
I'll take some more when I get home :^)

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>>187748684
>hurr durr

>>187745823
>only the person in the turret can use the weapons

Cutlassfags on suicide watch

>>187741232
>After consultation with CIG we deleted our last video, because there has been wrong information included. Correction and reupload will follow tomorrow.

>>187750393
This has been the way it is for a long time, and they've been saying that was gonna be the way it worked out all along.

t. Cutlassfag

>>187741373
The carrack is such a nice looking ship.

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FAT

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I think I'd actually whale out for a 2012 style hornet at this point. the new one is incredibly ugly.

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>>187756070
I wouldn't. Old hornet looks about as detailed and hi-polly as a Freelancer ship.

Personally don't think much of the design anyway, but at least the new one looks good.

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>S3 wing mounts on the Gladius now
So what got nerfed in return?

>>187757943
Congratulations to gladius-shitter-kun who whined so much his tears reached the desk of Chris Roberts.

GG on your weapon upgrades.

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Anyone played Starway Fleet?
Supposedly it's like wing commander

>>187757943
It's compensation for Chris fucking with the cockpit layout.

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>>187756572
>post millenial who never played actual early 2000's games

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>>187760249
My favourite dogfighting spaceship is Starlancer's Reaper Heavy fighter.

>>187759596
>>187757943
Its a long-needed change, I hope they nerf its hp to compensate (and not fuck with agility).

>>187759596
thanks, slobbering-hornet-retard-chan, i couldn't have done it without you

>>187760774
I don't even own a hornet. And by the way, whining that your light interceptor can't 1v1 outgun top-end heavy fighters is retarded. Congratulations on being part of the reason "balance" is so shit in modern games.

>>187760450

Starlancer is my all time favorite dogfighting game.

>>187760894
except it still doesn't outgun the hornet? retard? hello???
making something not complete cannon fodder is not the same as making you outgun a sabre/hornet

>>187761114
>except it still doesn't outgun the hornet?
I never claimed it did.

You're like some shitter whining that a shotgun can't shoot as far as a battle rifle and asking for a buff.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G97uuygdJ38

>>187761364
what a terrible analogy, as expected from a braindead retard who cries about 'balance' while not actually wanting it

I bet you're one of those retards who thought release day aircraft in Planetside 2 were balanced

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I just wanna shoot Sandniggers People dammit! 3.0 when?

>>187764332
>Sandniggers People
Does your mom know you are on the computer?

>>187764481
>Not wanting to shoot sandniggers.
I would say "what are you? a communist!" but communists like shooting sandniggers too.

When 3.0 finishes downloading I'm going to race over to Levski and initiate a conversation with Miles Eckhart and never exit out of it. I will single-handedly prevent my entire server (and thus my entire region) from experiencing the meat of 3.0's content forever.

PLEASE HELP ME
DO I GET THE RECLAIMER OR CARRACK??

The Carrack has more utility but the Reclaimer looks so fucking cool I just want it because it looks cooler. The Carrack has a snub + rover though HELPPPPPPPPPPPPP.

Also reclaimer will be finished first.

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>>187766693
I ONLY HAVE UNTIL TOMORROW TO DECIDE

>>187767021
you're a big guy

>>187766693
>>187767021
But the Sabre looks good too.............
God fucking damnit Chris you cunt why do you have to make your .jpgs so appealing.

A friend of mine is sipping the scam citizen koolaid hard, and i require the doccuments that show it's inability to meet their goals.

>>187761625
Good point, I wonder how long it will take after SC releases for player weapons to be nerfed into god-mode anti-air, and ship armor nerfed to paper tier. So that all the CoD babbies don't get farmed by S3 guns.
>Feelsbadman.jpeg
Also MAX balanced air perfectly which you would've known had you played the beta. But shitters always gotta be soldier boys.

>>187767503
>the doccuments
Good luck anything that tries to work out CIG's financials is just a guess.

>>187767936
I was mostly going for just a map of their original goals for releease dates and the actual results.

>>187767021
The only ships you should buy are LTI tokens or upgrades during the anniversary sale.

>buying ships with 6 month insurance
Absolute pleb tier

>>187768142
I have a nox with LTI sitting in my hangar for upgrades when something good comes up.

The sale on now is 5 year Insurance on Carrack, Reclaimer, Sabre, and a few others.

Got a Saber instead so I can actually fly 2 ships (Sabre/Cutlass) and 2 vehicles (Rover/Nox) during 3.0.

>>187766693
don't put more money into this trainwreck you fool

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>>187767021
>$350 ship range

>Carrack
if you want to explore shit Stay our for long periods of time, live in the cold void and RP Star Trek.
>Reclaimer
if you want to make money picking the bones of the dead, constantly considering the slide into outright piracy and RP Firefly or any of the newer grimmer dark flavors of sci-fi from the past 15 years.
>Crucible
if you wanna be cletus the space mechanic and be everyone friends but also automaticall stuck in the middle of literally all disagreements that happen. You know Mel Gibson in the patriot? where the brits burned his house down for helping the continental rebels? You're Mel Gibson.
>BMM
if you want to take advantage of the goyim in the most overt and stylish way possible.
>Hull C-D-E
If you don't like being griefed by murderous psychopaths who are disruptive and immature, boy do I have a ship for you. THey're going to grief you anyway but what you really actually want is a Hull series ship, its calling to you. Your second jopb as a long haul space trucker awaits, Daddio.

Carrack = Idealistic Naivety
Reclaimer = Cynical Practicality.
Orion = "Honest Work!" Profit Seeking Daddery
Starfarer = Opportunistic Profiteering
Crucible = Either help everyone and be blamed or refuse to help people and be blamed.
Happy Merchantman = Astrogational Judasim.
Hull = I had fun once it was awful.

>>187746160
The dbx has a shitty fuel scoop and is pressed for space to bring the srv Bay and redundant repair modules that ultra long range explorers want to bring out into the black.

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>>187767817
I probably have more hours in the reaver than you do gametime total in PS2 pal
MAXs didn't do shit to any not retard pilot, and in beta they were fucking worthless lmao

>>187770717
>Oh look a NC pilot with no idea what he's talking about.
20+ MAXs = no air.
Beta was more like 50+ at any given fight.

>>187771173
oh look a TR/VS shitter thinking his garbage opinions matter
any non-idiot fucking pilot can get in easy kills even with AA densely packed into an area, sorry you're such a shit tier cunt that you can't even manage that

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>>187724141

anyone tried this shit? is it worth it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4iyT8QUBxA

>>187771729
Stay buttmad, top pilto.
You can suck my dick if you'd like.

>>187772635
I take your admission of not knowing what the fuck you're even talking about graciously, friend

>>187772796
There is no sake arguing with your retardation, "getting kills" and "farming" cuz "balance", sell it on /ps2g/ if it still exists.

>>187772489
I hadn't even heard of it until now but the trailer doesn't fill me with confidence.
>Jousting, the game.

>>187772975
PS2 was never balanced and especially wasn't balanced on release when every fucking aircraft had station cash purchased pre-nerf lolpods and zephyr liberators relentlessly ruining every single fight, retard

I say this as someone who relentlessly abused lolpods on release, and laughed at the very idea of dying to someone's burster MAX before I'd killed him already with breaker rockets. I genuinely hope that the railgun players get while on foot blows entirely wings off in one shot, it would be absolutely cathartic.

>>187773838
*and nothing killed PS2 faster than aircraft spam on release, btw

>>187773242
they're going for a more realistic approach

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>>187773838
>mfw dice keeps buffing AA in BF1 and the airshitters just cry harder

payback for the suicide chairs at last

>>187774468
ah, i remember the days of BC2 where a good pilot was fucking invincible. and a decent pilot was also damm near invincible

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>>187774976
>BC2
kid, I....

When is CIG going to grow some balls and bring back the aim assist that was in .8? All the problems with space combat are do to one reason gimbals, aim assists would also level the playing field across all controller types.

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>>187775968
just lowering the range that gimbals can articulate by a lot would go a long way to making the game better

>>187775968
I really don't understand how they thought gimbals were going to work well with joysticks

you could probably do it with head tracking, like real fighter pilots, but I don't see any other decent way.

>>187776270
I'm a mouse and keyboard user and I hate gimbals I'm too focused on shooting people instead of flying.

>>187776270
Even then, anon, there's a reason that the only weapons controlled by the visor/HMCS on fighter jets tends to be short-range missiles rather than guns and stuff, unless you're in a Cobra or something.. which isn't a fighter jet.

You're not gonna be able to do very much with a gun controlled by your face or that's not aimed right down the nose when trying to focus on maneuvering and keeping up with the target.

The way they're doing things right now is just fucking stupid and I don't think can ever work.

>>187776634
you'll most likely be looking at the target anyway

>>187776749
Then you'll need to move your head beyond the target and possibly not even have them in your field of view in order for shots to actually impact.

>>187776270

I really don't get how the fuck you're suppose to use a ship that has some fixed and some gimbals guns.

>>187778021
Gimbal lock

>>187778021
same as in elite. firing groups.

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What should I buy and why?

>>187778219

I know, but I just don't get why it's an option in the first place.

>>187778394
nothing.
no game.
waste of money.

>>187778447
Be cutlass black

Have 2 Smallish, laser repeaters on gimbals to pewpew at whatever is vaugely in front of you without concern for precision or ammo conservation
Have 2 of the Biggest fuck youest ballistics, railguns, cannons or gats, you can find fixed to deal with actual threats that that you have to destroy or at least persuade to clear your forward vector, with large front loaded damage, but limited ammo so you dont just wanna spam em at every scythe or poorora who tries to harass you.

>>187778394
Fucking nothing until it's released at this point.

We're now approaching a year past the game's original release date, and literally a year since the last update (3.0) was supposed to be implemented on the Alpha client. If your game's having year-long delays of patches during the Alpha phase, you're gonna have a bad time.

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>>187779028
>games original release date
you mean a year past it's second delayed release date

>>187779306
I had no idea how bad things really were.

Shame that this game might go the way of Duke Nukem Forever, I haven't pledged yet and won't at this point. It's still the only game coming out "soon" that's remotely on my radar though. Why can't the industry stop breaking my heart?

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>>187779593
hey man at least you didn't buy into vaporware like a lot of these retards who are thousands of dollars deep and will never see any return on it

>try to go to engi base
>connection error
>log back in and retry
>connection error

I'm taking a break from Elite. This is seriously fucking pissing me off. When going from point A to point B becomes a grind I think it's time to wait until the next update.

>>187778928

Except I have an Avenger which has a strong gimbal nose gun but weak fixed guns.

Though are they ever going to let me switch out that nose gun? I'd rather have something that doesn't run out of ammo so fucking fast.

>>187779668
I mean I would have if not for my natural skepticism and having been a poorfag back in 2012. Don't blame them for falling for Roberts' ruse though, if Star Citizen releases and delivers on promises it'll be the best game ever.

I just think the chances of that happening are the same as me getting hit by lightning right the fuck NOW however.

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>>187775892
>BF2
anon, I....

>>187781315
>there will never be a game as revolutionary to mainstream multiplayer shooters as Battlefield 1942 was in its time

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Bump for SC needs bodysuits.

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Should CIG hire more African concept artists to improve their turret placement?

>>187736397
futuristic shit tickets

>>187785251
remove the prop, slap a pair of giant engines held on by flimsy bits of metal and a few struts in the middle of the cockpit and it's practically CIG's next jpeg sale

>>187787451
that's literally a Cutlass cockpit with more struts

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As I sit and stare at the rebuy screen I question if my purchase of a Python was the right choice. While I wait to respawn my room is soon filled with the smell of coffee and recreational marijuana. I turn around and see none other than Falcon DeLacy himself. "You have made the right choice" he says. "Besides, the Fer De Lance cant haul cargo, which automatically makes it shit."
"What can I do?" I ask. "My shields are only at 325."
"Your shield is too small, a 5A shield cannot wrap her as she deserves. A 6A power plant cannot fill her as she deserves."
It was true. I've had a 6A power plant (overcharged) for a long time. The 7A was just so expensive. It was time that I invest.
"You have the credits you tightass." DeLacy said as he moved though a portal through which I could see mountains of Painite while assuring me that Asp pilots like to watch their wives get fucked by other men while anally pleasuring themselves with a replica of the Beluga Liner with the wings cut off.
I ignored the oddly specific example and headed to a nearby Industrial station that had 7A power plants in stock. With that I could equip 6A shields and shield cell banks. Her shield boosters no longer thirsted for power. Her beam lasers shined for longer. With 645mj of shields between us and the cold, unforgiving void; we headed once more towards Robigo Mines.

Python is love.
Python is life.

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>New damage type confirmed in ED: Caustic

Fucking called it. Corrosive damage type.

>>187789316
Source?

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>>187790176
2.4 beet-uh

>>187792221
>thargoids constitute just another type of res-site
>only difference is their weapons do corrosive damage
>new engineers offer module upgrades with caustic resistance, shields with added caustic protection
>still inferior to the already established meta

Calling it.

>>187793460
Already called.
It's pretty much a given that a murder fit will roflstomp players set up for bug hunting.

>>187778394
>unironically paying hundreds of dollars for a ship for a game that isn't officially released.

Is there a site that offers good templates for ships in Elite Dangerous to fit out and buy?

>>187732747
farming is a pain in the dick though
bubbles are expensive
fuck thamium9 requirements
I just wanna get rich man

>>187789316
They're also ripping off Firefly's reavers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiI0cNoSII8

>>187796503
Would it still be considered ripping off as oppose to being 'inspired' by them?

>>187796503
>>187796634
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFNXz3IAvvA
NOM

>>187797056
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBTDmXmgdjM
NOM

>>187796503
Fucking hate the reavers as a concept. Violent near mindless rage zombies that somehow manage to maintain spaceships and plot courses to other ships and planets is retarded

>>187797056
why wouldn't any major space station require ships to slave their crafts to the control of the station during landing so there's no chance Bob the redneck space trucker accidentally kills a thousand plus people when he crashes his rig into a bulkhead due to drinking a little too much space beer at the last pit stop?

>>187785251
I love the practicality of those front 3 "rockets" under the chin. At lease they know that aiming is not a luxury that the pilot of that thing would have.
Also I think they completely intentional when they gave the pilot the option to end it all with that rear rocket pod.

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>>187797560
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzy-ByDT244

>>187797643
These guys are apparently intelligent and well-mannered. They just happen to be all cyber'd up. And also a cannibal cult.

>>187798012
Structural materials in the Elite universe are redonkerously strong even without considering shields. We're talking about ships that take minor damage crashing into each other, dive into stellar coronae to fuel up and fly right into the polar jets of pulsars to overcharge their FTL drives. The people themselves would also have to be practically transhuman when there's absolutely no artificial gravity or inertial compensation yet you can pull 25+ Gs before blacking out.

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>>187797056
The badge on the hull looks a little mst3k to me.

>>187797056
>>187798847

These are the lengths ED pilots must go to in order to get any sort of yaw out of their ships.

>>187798847
Thanks for putting my on a hammy 80's music kick which lead in to hammy James Bond theme songs.

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>>187804328

>Before this happens, in an effort to help our Australian citizens and as we have done previously when the EU implemented VAT, we are offering several of our most wanted ships prior to this change. Additionally, we are pairing these ships with the upcoming five-year insurance that will be available during our annual Anniversary Sale.
>upcoming five-year insurance
They just keep making the non-LTI insurance longer each year. Wasn't it 4 years last time?

>log in to Quince
>immediately hear horrible scraping sounds from docking bay above
>Again.
>return to surface
>there's a Sidewinder jammed under the edge of one of the park roofs with an Anaconda repeatedly bumping its underside against it with the cargo scoop open
Goddamn it what is wrong with you faggots

>>187804705
>carrack (still at 350) and Cutlass blue go up for sale for aussies
fuck yeah, just let me fire up the ol vpn and-
>no CCU's
oh fuck you, CIG, that's just petty. Why not just go all the way and make them warbonds as well.

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>>187741232

>>187795321
If you're looking for a ship builder- https://coriolis.io/

>>187795321
>>187808942
And you also want to use an updated version with more functionality:
https://coriolis.edcd.io/

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>>187723127
These nig nogs are getting desperate

>>187809530
Sometimes it seems like ships sales are a lot more important for CIG than the actual development.

Didnt they say last year or something that they already have enough money to make the game?

Didnt we do a 65mill stretch goal?
Doesnt that mean we should get every promised feature up said stretch goal milestone on release?

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>>187809868
If people want to buy ships they're not going to stop selling them. Hell, was there like one concept sale a month this year? And they're even hyping up some big, game-changing one before the year's end?

>>187810879
>game-changing

Good one, haha.

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tfw you're waiting for them to sell a Tevarin stealth corvette.jpeg that can carry/transport the prowler.

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>>187811018
Thought it was at ShitizenCon they were gon' reveal that shit there.

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>>187811069
Prowler is shit

>>187809868
I don't think you understand. They are not selling a game or an ig-ship, they are selling a dream, that's why SC is still here

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>>187723127
this looks like the dropship for Aliens

>>187798847
or: rather than being autistic
it's a game
you take less damage than realistic
can't fly as fast as is realistic
and they don't model G-forces

>>187805582
lel that might have been me in the sidewinder

SC 3.0 when?
Don't say never

>>187816430
in 7 years

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>>187816430
December 2016

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>>187816469
I have nothing else to play, please.

>>187816546
I know

Those fucking turkish bastards wont release bannerlord

Crobters collects all the money and wont finish the game. ever

eve is dying

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>>187816546
>Thousands of games to play today, dozens if not well over a hundred that's actually good to sit down with for hours.
I don't believe you.

>>187816787
is eve f2p worth playing? last I played was in 2005 where the 1 week trial put me to fucking sleep

>>187816861
Name me 5 good games I will tell you why they are shit/not interesting for me

>>187817130
Minesweeper

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>>187817130
Fucking depends on what you like/don't like fucko.
Besides the point is that there are other games APLENTY to sit down and fucking kill time with.
You fucking make a top-5 video and put it up on JewTube like the rest of the cocksuckers nippin' the clit of the JewTube CEO for them shekels.

>>187817130
>name me 5 games without knowing what kind of games I like

>>187817558
>>187817565
name me your current 5 favs.

Has Quince been patched?

There was an update for server maintenance before so I don't know if it got hit.

>>187809868
>Didnt they say last year or something that they already have enough money to make the game?
Longer than last year, Chris said that when they were around the $20 million mark

>>187822509
that was before he pissed the money away on hookers and procedural planets

>>187822694
Damn expensive hookers considering the price elite cost to make (plus its own planets)

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>>187745823
>>187750393
I'm fine with the pilot not being able to use the turret, but I wish they'd get rid of the manned monstrosity and let the copilot man it remotely

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUydQwCxCu8

mute before you open. the music will make your ears bleed,

>>187823028
this isn't even new tech either, we've had automatic tracking systems integrated with turrets since the 60's with wide scale deployment in the 70's

>>187750393
Dropped ship

and almost the "game"

fuck you assholes, Cutlass was my baby

kys Croberts

>>187823635
>whale mad about a ship
>never really wanted a game
>w-we are j-just s-supporting the development
>w-we aren't a-actually buying s-ships

get a refund already you faggot

>>187823635
it doesn't even matter.
Before the rework you had 5 guns (two wing, one chin and the turret).
Now after the rework you have 4 that are all size 3.

literally nothing to get angry about

>>187823808
they said you can slave them to pilot and shoot straight forward

they even has the flashfire thing for this


srsly no one ever (except npc) will man this turret.

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>>187823028
Some alien ships have remote controlled turrets.Others have gunner seats to control gimbaled weapons.

>>187745705
2bh since Freespace 2 and it's mods, nothing has topped it.

>>187824203
they gave the cutlass an attack helicopter cockpit, but they gave no incentive for anybody to ever be a copilot.
take away the manned turret and have the copilot operate it like an apache.

Been a while since I last checked, how's Scam Citizen these days? People actually waking up (better late than never (unlike SC)) or are there still delusional rubes displaying their golf ball through a hose trick.

>>187824580
elite has way better gameplay than freespace though

a campaign with scripted missions with ED mechanics would be top

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TRIPLE SIX FIVE FORKED TONGUE

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>>187825589
What is that thing?

>>187825848
Tachyon cannon

>>187825509
>a campaign with scripted missions with ED mechanics would be top

who the fuck wants that?

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>>187817098
bls respong

I've got 15 million credits lads for ED.

What's a good ship that I can get to use for combat that will give me a great return?

>>187815867
Most ships in space games are even slower than the ones in Elite, SC included.
The materials science and biotech/cybernetics are all in-lore. This is in top of all the spacers and colonists being genetically engineered long ago to better survive in space and on inhospitable worlds. And you can still black/red out and loose control of your ship. Just not as easily as a present day fighter pilot.

>>187827782
Vulture.

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>>187756070
I refuse to acknowledge your taste
Old Hornet looked like a toy with shitty hinge made in china
New Hornet look like a toy of higher craftsmanship.

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>>187828754
God I wish I had picked up the F7A kit when it was on sale.
>like 20 bucks melt value
>goes for $110+ on the grey market

>>187795512
As you set up more and more plants worth of living glass the bubbles come quicker. As for thamium, just go into spess and kill some freighters, some of their containers are thamium and you can get multiple stacks in minutes

>>187828754
>title says F7C
>has F7A decals
N-NANI??

>>187760249

The eagle was the best. It had less weapons and armor than the junkies heavy fighter and the corsair one but it had the speed and agility.

>>187830259

True. Reihnland (the krauts or whatever they were named) had the best light one, bounty hunters the best medium and the eagle was the best heavy.

The best freighter was the one that carried the most.

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>>187830259
eagle was still sluggish af
anubis is the master race
>can't buy it outside of campaign

>>187829034
There better be away to acquire the F7A body kit in-game, or I will be filing a law suit.

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>>187830475
Sabre sabre sabre.

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>>187830417
kusari LF seemed the best to me, just because of its maneuverability.

speaking of FL
>starflier worth 4800
>titan costs ~800k
>166x

>sidewinder worth 32k
>anaconda costs ~147m
>4600x

>>187831214

It was the fastest but cargo was also important. Smuggling drugs into liberty or stealing gold from the brits and sell to some jew cruiser that was in the area was the best money gaining methods.

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>>187778021
>I really don't get how the fuck you're suppose to use a ship that has some fixed and some gimbals guns.
Anti-shield weapons gimbals to drop the shield fast. Anti-armor weapons fixed once it drop.
Some ships might have more weapon than energy to power them. In this case you would put common weapon on gimbals and special weapon on fixed
If a ship is geared with more fixed weapon, it's the reverse, you drop shield using a strong fixed weapon then the gimbals give you more chance to cripple permanently the enemy.

>>187776270
>I really don't understand how they thought gimbals were going to work well with joysticks
Because they do not cater solely to joystick purist, it's as simple as that.

They want people to also have fun with mouse and keyboard, making the -1 size penalty a choice. Some people do like gimballed weapon (it make the ship feel more sophisticated).
Beside, there's way to make gimbal work with gimbals. But Joystick players tend to hate those unless it make them superior to kbm regardless of skills.

I don't understand the mindset it take to not understand that.

I also want remote turret controlled from within the ship, I wish the manned-turret was retroactively explained as old tech from old war

>>187831634
the size penalty is a joke. gimbals favor mouse massively more than that. so it's not that "joystick isn't the best", it's simply that "joystick is completely unviable"

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>>187830760
If CR intention are to be believed it will and you'll have things you'll never ever be able to buy using real money (quest items obviously).

>>187831918
>let's just turn off our primary money maker to make a few neckbeards happy
LOL

>>187817607
TW3, Bloodborne, Ace Combat 4/5/0, E:D, Gran Turismo 4

>>187831794
>joystick is completely unviable
>people using joystick rank in top 10 positions on the leaderboards

>>187828243
What about weapons in the hard points?

What should I be aiming for?

>>187827987
source: your ass
frontier was basically realistic, they made it unrealistic again because it was shit

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>>187830475
>>187830932
>>187831214
For some reason, a ship I liked the most was this one.
Of course I'm the sort of guy who installed cargo ship mods and wished Star Citizen Hull-Series had been Tugboat/semi-trailer instead of scaffolding clusterfuck. But I can understand why they didn't do that, it would have been a nightmarish waste of time to program an alternate control scheme for propulsion ahead of the center of gravity.

We will never play a game with Charles Pellegrino's valkyrie design

>>187829034
I'm sure CIG will sell it again when the kit's actually usable...

for a hundred fucking dollars.

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>>187832669
>watch avatar
>the valkyrie is called venture star
>the venture star is called valkyrie
what did they mean by this

I'm not sure it would really be that difficult to program a tugboat style design, it's just like vector thrust but with the controls inverted

>>187832669

Im the anon that wrote >>187830417, and the best money I ever made in that game was taking drugs from the planet from the faction where you buy that freighter (the drug guys) and smuggle into liberty.

It was hard as fuck and you need to approach the planet by the rear (cant remember the damn path), but holy shit if you got there while not being caught you dropped such a load that you were swimming in money.

I cant remember if ships diverged in speed while on cruise mode though. If that was the case I might be wrong and perhaps there were faster ones (it has been more than a decade I touched that)

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>>187832164
>Gran Turismo
>Not the superior Forza

>>187833087
all ships had the same cruise speed of 300 m/s

>>187833428

I guess I did it right then. That was it in terms of smuggling.

>>187831794
You say that as if it wasn't possible to stack more penalty... if we listened to some self-centered stick handler they would nerf everything, mouse speed, cursor speed, mouse range, deadzone range, until they can hide how shit they are at using joysticks.

atv today?

what happened to the press demos they supposedly gave at gamescom? I haven't seen anything other than the main presentation

>>187833410
GT4 was peak comfy racing, nothing else has come close since

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>>187832987
>what did they mean by this
"We didn't want to give the coolest name to a ship that don't have screentime, because we are retarded and cut the animation we made to make place for more blue furry porn"
I also spotted that one on my first watch, among other things

>I'm not sure it would really be that difficult to program a tugboat style design, it's just like vector thrust but with the controls inverted
If your payload don't move, yes it's relatively easy but autopilot still have to be reprogrammed at basic level to handle the different equation.
If your payload is dangling to a flexible structure or even a cable, now you have trouble. Look up to Curiosity skycrane. And play any game with realistic rope/crane mechanic to have an idea.

At least SC can count on space aether to slowdown ship if the engine are off.

>>187760249
>>187830475
>>187830932
>>187831214
>>187832669

Remember the odds of getting a hostile party along the way? Either through the lanes or outside of them?

That was a Chris game. Now imagine SC fags that bought a hull series along their first trade trip lool.

>>187834385

Judging by the pictures of the community and the existence of a FPS component, expect eve^(2) in terms of autism and sociopathy. Some sort of /pol/+/r9k/ with anger issues like a game of WoW in a private server where the general is shared by both factions.

Oh yeah, lulz to be had. Dads gone on the first year (maybe E:D stands a chance after all).

>>187834929
I can see all the hull-e ships will start trading oxygen from planets to stations in super duper safe hug box space.

>>187834929

>lets crash auroras on noobs at the spawning points for the lulz shits and giggles
>concord response time: 20 minutes
>"olololololol newb pewby scrub!"

>>187834385

That was from npc's alone kek

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>>187833858
That's just because of the music.
Forza let you tune your car and play around with settings a lot deeper.
I miss the old Forza Motorsport 2 days where people tuned car perfectly and sold them on the online auction house.
You could really make a name of yourself as a great tuner people wanted their cars from for serious races.

>>187836110
HOT ROOOOOOOOOOD
also I never actually played Forza except for Horizon 3 (which is fun, but ultimately a bit shallow)
does Motorsport have a proper campaign and all that? is it going to be worth shelling out for 7, do you think?

>SC

Where are the solo salvaging ships and the stealth cargo runners at?

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>>187836714
>solo anything
>stealth

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>>187834385
>That was a Chris game. Now imagine SC fags that bought a hull series along their first trade trip lool.

That's reaching. Chris Robert left development midway, when Microsoft took control they didn't complete the living universe, complex faction system and overall consistency that Chris wanted.
It was cheaper for them to replace it by level-up ship/equipment, black&white faction morality and enemy spawning in some area.

It should still be a stupid idea to travel near the Cathcart system with an undefended Hull full of expensive cargo

>>187832345
Preferably the enemy.

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>>187836474
I only like the Forza Motorsport games.
I have only played 2, 3 and 4 and I loved them all.

I'm going to buy Forza Motorsport 7 on PC when it comes out. That's because I like reading reviews before I buy shit anymore.

SC, TW:W and WAR was my only exceptions.

Horizon is far too shallow for me, like the Test Drive Unlimited series.
Gran Turismo is a middle ground of some sort.

>>187837486

>the picture

I bet when he faced the Joker they sited for a nice cognac talk in a most gentlemen's fashion along with a good game of chess.

>>187832580
>was basically realistic
Yeah ships only used to pull 60-70G without knocking out the crew in previous games. 25G to blackout now is unrealistically low.

>>187837425

Retaliators, merchantman, starfarer, constelations (non taurus) and maybe MAX stand a chance (the later hits the gas).

The rest gets pwned. They are all dead.

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>>187836714
>stealth/fast cargo
Retaliator is your best bet, stop dreaming for a cheated ship that let you have your contraband cake, you won't get one.

>solo salvaging ship
You have plenty of them: anything that can carry tools and a cargo.
It would be stupid if a medium ship let you push a button and recycle anything into pricey loot.
Plus, may I be damned if the Crucible isn't used to take apart wrecks until you can make a working one.

>>187838013

>claw and saw
>take off weapons, shield gen, powerplant
>stores them and fucks off

You dont need to grind the whole damn thing.

>>187838276

No no no.
You need to EVA out exposed so that some other fag can squash you in his windshield.

Thats balance.

>>187838013
ynnnghhh, the Crucible, a one-man multi-role operations platform for all your super hornet adventuring needs.

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>>187838879
>>187838013

>Crucible
>solo

>>187839105
Maybe not maximum efficiency solo, but probably still totally solo-able.
Sitting duck while you do repairs.

>>187839379

Yeah, you pilot it, come down three levels of stairs, repair/dismantle shit), come back up and somehow man the turrets and pilot the ship at the same time.

Yeah makes sense.

>>187839584
Park your crucible in deep space away from prying eyes and POIs, at a range to your objective that gives you just enough fuel in your fighter to get there, do what you need to do and get back.
Hop in your fighter get the job done, return home, do some repairs.

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I just bought Elite Dangerous on ps4. What are some valuable tips?

>>187839845

It can actually work. I thought in doing the same thing but with a pure cargo ship.

>>187839985

That crap is almost the size of a fucking reclaimer.
Besides, the caterpillar will have its own chop shop and its cheaper. No reason not to use it.
If its modular as they said it would be you might even have a scanning module for intel.

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>>187839878
rune tips are pretty valuable

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>>187839878
don't grind. don't follow guides. ignore missions. hide dad posters, ignore dad posts, report dads. avoid binary systems at all costs. explore and have fun. praise the princess. rightful heir.

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>>187840136
It's not that big.

>>187840450
ships bigger than constellation were a mistake

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>>187838736
>he want to be a scavenger sitting in a comfy chair away from any danger

Get out of our sight

>>187840330
>aisling
>not the real milf arissa the true empress

you disgust me

>>187841224
the only thing disgusting here is that old hag and her thugs running the empire directly into the ground

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>>187841460

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>>187840330
>>187841224
>>187841460
>>187841535
>powerplay
>ever
anons...

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>>187841634

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>>187841535
>i jerk off to aisling therefor shes my real weaboo waifu
>lets not be le ebil slabers and be briends with eberyone

fuck off waifufag

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>>187840330
How do I get shit done if I don't at least fo missions? I'm all for not having to grind though. How do I do that?

W-what's in binary systems?

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>>187841970
NOOOOOOORMMIIIIEEEAAAAGGGHHH!!!111111!!1!!

>>187837780
>Retaliator stands a chance
How exactly does a cargo Retaliator stand a chance? A super hornet could just tank it's pathetic turrets long enough to disable the ship. A hull C might literally end up a better offensive choice than a cargo hauling retailator in addition to being cheaper and holding ten times the cargo.

And the defender is pretty much CIG admitting the merchantman is just an alien Hull at this point. All that "blockade runner"and fuck huge retractable guns shit is going in the same trash can all their other ship promises go.

>>187842008
>what's in binary systems
100 billion kilometers of emptyness you have to fly through every time
most binary stars are very very far apart

and basically anything a mission can pay you to do you can earn money doing anyway. it's fine to use them as guides if you don't know anything but you'll quickly find out most of them are shit

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>>187842143
The obvious answer.

>>187840883
Nah, ships bigger than the reclaimer/Orion or maybe the original smaller concept idris were a mistake.

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>>187842143
>>187842460
>furfaggotry

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>>187842143
It'd be a hard choice between Manako, Miia, Tio and Rachnera, REAL. HARD.
Also that's not a horse pussy, that's a centaur's pussy!

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>>187842367
What shit are you talking about outside of missions that isn't also grinding? Killing other people? Sorry I'm a complete noob, I just downloaded it last night.

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>>187842693
>tfw you can't play as a genetically engineered wolfgirl in SC

>>187843113
you can mine you can trade you can (could?) salvage, smuggle, pirate, bounty hunt, participate in wars and explore. off the top of my head. missions usually involve doing one of these things but with buggy parameters, like the target you're supposed to kill never showing up.

>>187839878
go exploit dosh before the next update hits in few weeks, fdev is charging the nerf hammer

>>187842151

The ship will be reworked due to the lack of offensive capabilities.

I wouldnt be surprised if it could turn into a gunship.

>>187843293
HI i <3 wolfgirls too.Wanna RP OwO?Tell me your in-game name so you can join our org =)

>>187843728

>cargo sucks ass though

>>187841970
Truly aisling fags are the worst
>>187842008
Ignore that guy, do missions, they pay better than you'll be able to earn alone.

Go bounty hunting in high resource sites and wait for the cops to attack a wanted target, get your scan done then tap him with your lasers then run away so they cops can kill him and you get the money