/simg/ Simulation Games General

DCS is not a sim.

IL-2 is not a sim.

BMS is a sim.

Microsoft X-Digital Combat Benchmark Battle of Rise of Moscow Flight over Flanders Fields Simulator vs Hokum is not a sim.

>Example of welcome games
>Flight Sims
Falcon BMS, DCS: World, Rise of Flight, IL-2, Combat Helo, Microsoft Flight Simulator, X-Plane, Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum
>Driving Games
Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2, Live for Speed, Euro Truck Sim, Train Simulator, Farming Simulator 201X, DiRT Rally, OMSI 2
>Ground Sims
SAM Simulator, Steel Beasts Pro, Steel Armor: Blaze of War, Graviteam Tactics, Squad
>Submarine Sims
Silent Hunter, Ship Simulator, Cold Waters, Dangerous Waters
>Misc Sims
Command: X, Swat 4

Is not a sim

>>187829132
Study sim, nothing more
>>187829214
>>187829237
this

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>you will never play a real time "true" sim in your life time

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>>187829497
DCS is not a sim.

do someone have the download of the version 1.07 of cold waters
Thx :3

>>187829924
It's kinda good for clicking buttons(depends on module)
nothing more
that's why I said study

>>187830070
Cold Waters is not a sim.

>>187830149
The outside 3D camera really ruined the "sim" aspect.

>il2 "lets change all fms out of the blue in 1 patch"
is not a sim
>it's war thunder tier

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>>187830143
DCS is not a sim.

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>bos is not biased
>aerodynamic forces apply only for certain planes

>>187832034
>hur dur
>superior germon technology
>this can't be

>>187832034
http://www.kurfurst.org/Tactical_trials/109F2_UK/Flight_Bf-109EF_Throughbritisheyes.pdf I don't know which version you're flying but it's mentioned right at the top of the 2nd page.

>>187833327
>>187832034
>>187832243
>yak instead is magical

>>187833327
>The following notes on handling characteristics apply only to the Me 109E
>just one out of five variants in game is an E
>webm appears to be an F variant

I sometimes feel as if the BMS fags are intentionally pitting the DCS fags and the IL-2 fags against one another.

>>187833848
they should
BMS is the one and only true sim

BMS >>> DCS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IL2

>>187833943
>>187833848
>literally on rails
>sim
you can only pick one punk

>>187833808
>wehraboo in complete denial
kek
cry more and get fucked by superior yaks

>>187834034
>never flew once but repeats fake memes
N E W
E
W

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>>187834034
Only DCS has rails as its flight models keep changing every patch. Its AI flight model is that of Falcon 3 before the dinosaurs went extinct. The damage model of most of the playable jets is also laughable. Its called Digital "Combat" Simulator but it cannot simulate aerial combat/warfare.

DCS is not a sim.

>>187834034
>on rails
argument please.

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>>187833848
We just sit back and enjoy the shitflinging, honestly.

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>>187832034
>109 had infamously heavy controls at higher speeds
REEEEEE THIS IS SLAV BAS

is this pic you anon?

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>>187835393
>being nazi
>an insult

pic related is how bos devs decide who gets heavy controls at high speeds

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>>187835541

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>>187836073

bind the elevator for your free turn rate then

>>187836417
its so fucking obvious the hammer/sickle was shopped in there
Anyways I hope planefags get gassed. Retarded autismos.

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>>187835541

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>>187836636
>i-it's shopped

>>187834181
Post some flight trials reports of F and G series slavaboo.

>>187836953
i already posted mine
now you post yours

otherwise shut the fuck up and leave

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>>187836636
Its OK tankfag we love you and your tanks too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCTG8wcUUy8

PS: You can see that ED has the Maverick symbols wrong in its "99% simulated A-10C".

DCS is not a sim.

>>187837109
You posted something barely related as only one version in IL-2 is an E version.

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>>187837280
>E & F 109
>barely related

>>187837376
The flight characteristics portion only talks about the E series. Read your own goddamn source.

>>187837265
Interrogative, how are you /this/ mad? How do you do nothing but shitpost for hours on end? Why do you hate DCS so much that you have literally dozens of webms of it to spam in every new thread? Did Wags kill your dog or something?

>>187837650
ignore him, dont give him yous

he's just a butthurt slavboo that got shotdown by an eagle one too many times

>>187837650
>>187837832
I am not mad, I am just keeping the thread alive by shitposting with others people webms. I also play DCS.

It is interesting to see you two on the other hand defending these mistakes and errors by claiming I'm some butthurt slavboo (I'm a slav that hates slavshit) being shot down by Eagles or that a cripple that cannot run or fight killed my dog.

DCS is not a sim.

>>187838196
>slavboos totally not shitting up simg

>>187838196
I dunno, mate, you sound pretty mad.

>The Dynamic Campaign system you want in DCS

>The Dynamic Campaign system ED will probably give us if ever

GO

>>187834787
Imagine if bms looked like this

>>187838486
>The Dynamic Campaign
>ED/DCS
Choose one

>>187838486
>The one you want
-Real time like in Falcon
-Ground AI commander
-Generates realistic FRAGs and ATOs based on the needs of the Ground AI
-Can create, delete, and modify missions and mission packages

>The one ED gives us
-They won't
OR
-Random mission generator BS like in IL2 1946

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>>187838367
Show me where I was writing like a madman. I'm just a little shitposter trying to make the "DCS is not a sim" meme a bit more valid by pointing out flaws.

>>187838486
It was suggested in the past where it could have mattered. Now the engine is such a mess they would have to go from scratch to create it. Its much easier selling user made missions that brake every patch for 15$ than to make a dynamic campaign.

DCS is not a sim.

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Spam tonks to hurry up this thread's demise so we can get peaceful tank edition back?

>>187837549
Nigga it says F in the second line.

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wet Chieftains

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ambush

>>187839417
Yeah, it does:
>The following notes on handling characteristics apply only to the Me 109E, no flying experience having yet been obtained on the more recent version of the Me 109F.

>>187839037
>bosfags trying to shift the attention to dcs after it reached war thunder patch levels

>>187840334
>BoXfags highlight the hypocrisy of people who shit on it by showing DCS also isn't perfect
FTFY

>tfw this general is getting shit up by literally one slav-hating /k/fag because nobody has learned to just ignore his obvious bait

Come on guys.

>>187840585
This, just don't give the (You)

>>187840585
>yea lets blame it all on 1 signle unnamed guy

scroll up there's slavboos shitting up everything

>>187840871
(You)
If you have noone to talk with, that's ok, but don't ruin stuff for others

>>187841034
none of shit posted above was me

look for another culprit, sweetie

So i've never played SABOW and know very little about it beyond it was made by Graviteam and it's a proper tank sim. What tanks are available in-game?

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>Is that famas?

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good modern tank sim when

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not your safespace

>Stop in
>See that /sing/ is sinking even farther.
>nothing but autists fags who don't even have the money to buy and play sims..

Jesus it is worse than a daycare for developmentally disabled kids here now.

As a professional production operative, I'm unironically looking forward to wageslaving from the RIO cockpit alone

>>187841593
>stop in

stop prending faggot

you were here the entire time

fuck off

>>187841593
It was fine few threads back, but now it's 1 :) dude back

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>>187839163
>>187839463
>>187839641
>>187839835
>>187840892
>>187841505
You want to start a war kiddo? How are you gonna shoot us down kek.

>>187841867
kek
:)

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>>187841205
T-62 & M60
>>187841867
KEK XD

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>>187841867
>10k feet
easily ))))))))

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>>187841867
You forgot that we have this fellow in dcs
Tunguska v2

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>

>show flaws of DCS in a funny way
>assblasted ED shills and slavboos start screeching that its a boogeyman from /k/ here to bully them
You people are retarded

DCS is not a sim.

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I had an inordinate amount of troops come at me for a strategic position.

I hat 6 tanks to fend off 2 Companies, 1 of Chieftains and 1 of Mechanised Infantry

Any of the Infantry that survived had to walk home

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>the heroes /simg didn't deserve
>but the ones it got

>>187842383
it's ED shills and >>>/r/hoggit who screetches

>>187842556
wow tankfag is a weeaboo!

>>187842615
>s-slavboos are innocent

fuck off all of you

literally leave me alone in here

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>it has been 18 years
>falcon 4.0 and then BMS S T I L L the best combat simulator on the market
>it is now essentially free
EVERYONE BTFO

>>187842556
How are you gonna defeat the planefags you tank faggot? You gonna send your waifu to fight for you? My sides are gone.

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>>187842556
>>187842648
That was not what I posted

Here's the sole surviving M113

>>187842801
Nice thumbnail

>>187842906
im hacking thats why

>>187842801
PERFECTION IN ALL ITS DYNAMIC FORM, HOW CAN ED EVEN COMPETE?

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Saad Maan

>>187842906
That's the thumbnail of the image I was supposed to post

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>>187842801
>magic
magic

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>sabowposting

god's in his heaven, all's right with the world

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>The virgin Chieftain crew
>Bails out without even taking a single hit

>>187843167
i can buy steel beasts for a month and start steelbeastposting if u want

>>187843249

Do it. I used to, but SBPro is kinda boring if you're playing it singleplayer. I couldn't justify a recurring expense just to ooh and ah at neat tank FCS simulation.

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>>187842579
With the UI bar on the top - I know that the blue square signifies vehicle front, & black triangle turret direction - but I'm getting fed constant targets by the commander which I get show as constant blue bars - is there a way to tell which bar is which? I'll be told "infantry left, grenade launcher left" - & then I'm stuck trying to figure out which was which.

With the directions of spotting too, "APC 7 right", do they mean 7 degrees right of turret, or main body?

When the commander feeds ranges too, I get things like "400 thousand". Is this 1400, or am I misinterpreting it somehow?

t. IQ89 trying to get into SABOW

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>wehraboos
>slavaboos
>not being a teaboo

This DYNAMIC Son of a Bitch is BTFOing Super Shit """"""""sims"""""""" and basically, you are fucking stupid

How? Just Watch This Free Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcMOOOulhME

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>>187843447
Black circle is where YOU are aiming/looking, with whatever binocular/optic
Blue circle is turret front
Orange small circle is where the turret is pointing
No there's not, you gotta memorize, the commander generally won't spam orders too fast though so you have enough time to engage.

>directions
The tank button in the middle of the bottom UI (or you can get inside the vehicle and see the azimuth wheel left of the gunner for yourself) tells you which direction the turret is pointed at.
The bigger the bar is, the target is closer, the smaller, the farther the target is, small tip

>range
yes, 400-Thousand = 1400 meters.

>no built in radio simulation
>nearly no atc simulation
>no advanced weather model
fun fact, you can import real life weather forecasts into bms, wonder if youll EVER get to do that in DCS
>no advanced missile model
>horrible engine in which you can alt tab to dodge missiles
>only 2 theaters
>constant issues with aircraft bugs
edbabbies will defend this

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I think I will re-play Iraqi side op. nasr for the 100th time

>>187845075
I want playable M48 in SABOW
Also flying turrets

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>>187845517
long shot friendo
for the time being we can dream of multiplayer

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>i can have slavshit being btfo on my mousemat
neat

http://www.cafepress.com/esimgames.14291072

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Is this game worth it if i'm kind of a poorfag and not trying to spend a ton of money?

I've never played a real simulation game before, I've fallen in love with tanks after playing them in Bore Thunder and Red Orchestra 2, found the ones in RO2 pretty cool but I was shit with them thanks to no mic to communicate and not being able to see shit since the crew members won't stick their eyes closer to the view ports for the wider field of view they should be able to get, will i enjoy this?

Any cheaper or free tank sims?

>evening
>9
step up the shitposting please

>implying anything is better than dcs
boshitters deluded

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>>187847474
Yes it's worth it. It's a very good tank sim.
Best we've got really.

Cold Waters got a patch for a UI overhaul that lets you set course/depth/speed through the UI now

Reminder that SABOW and graviteam tactics mius front are both 25% off on steam plus dlc.

>>187843619
RAYGUN?

>>187843619
>simulator
>F-18 full of wrong avionics, wrong everything

Might as well play fucking Ace Combat.

I read somewhere recently that the Mig-21 in DCS is actually a colossal failure, with tons of inaccuracies and not at all indicative of the real thing; only seeming that way because it meets some numbers on charts published 30 years ago, and because no one who flies one in DCS has flown one in real life.

Is this true?

>>187857129
Pretty much yeah

>>187857129
Some things are wonky, but it's the best MiG-21 simulation out there so we can cut it some slack.

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>>187857527
>MiG 21 in DCS is a complete shitshow of a module in terms of accuracy
>IL-2 scrutinised witha fine toothed comb

>>187857129
Essentially, yeah.

Half the shit in the cockpit, especially relating to the ASP just don't work right and haven't for years.

And then there's the fact that the module is incomplete after having been released 3 years ago. Either shit's broken or just isn't there. I have no fucking idea why everyone dickrides Leatherneck so hard. Their output is abysmal.

>>187857684
probably because they're actually competent with promoting their products and community relations

>>187858727
Nigga they kept their mouths shut about the Viggen more or less right up until the release date.

And released it horribly incomplete. ;^)

>>187857628
People perceive that there are a lot of other WWII sims on the market (there isn't) so they are more critical.
The only other jet sim besides DCS that people still play is BMS and BMS doesn't have a MiG-21. Or at least something that looks like a MiG-21.

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>>187847474
It's the newest and best current option we got in tank simulation currently tbqh
Since you're a poorfag you're gonna want the most out of your money, this game has two playable tanks and 4 campaigns in it (each has 15-40 hours of gameplay if you're gonna suck it dry)

>>187851017
>GTOS gets no love

>>187864107
It's old so of course it won't. Wish they'd stop making new games and just give is engine updates and DLC on those instead. Not keen on paying more money for a samey game like what Battlefront does.

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>>187864925
Pretty much, but updating GTOS would've been pretty un-profitable for them, I guess they wanted the exposure of creating a new WW2 strategy sim with cool looking visuals and such. The reason they made TW:1943 a separate game though is because they are under contract with a publisher, and can't make it a DLC for their own games. I'm still pretty excited man, they're working pretty fast these months and they're already teasing another upcoming DLC soon.

>>187868851
Reckon Mius is at a point where it's worth picking up, content wise?

I got GTOS awhile back because it had the huge number of DLC's to work through - no regrets. If it was just the base-game, it'd have gotten old much faster. The DLC's add so much to the experience.

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>>187869957
I think yes it is
The two base campaigns are pretty big and fun, the rest of the DLC campaigns are decent (but a tad small, but they're the only DLC's through the GT games where you can simulate WW2 in massive, open steppes). But if you compare base GTOS to GTMF, GTOS is straight-up bigger (8 or 9 campaigns was it?) but GTMF has the largest campaign in any GT game (pic-related, 18 turns playable from both sides, these are only the deployed troops, there are shitloads more in reserve)

You should know though, GTMF will get no love for up to a year ahead, with Graviteam switching all focus on their new game.

Also, 10.

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How long you think it takes to master 3D modelling and how much money would I be forced to shell out?
Would 6-8 months be feasible time to produce high-quality models of tanks? I'd like to create mods for SABOW

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>>187873290
>The two base campaigns are pretty big and fun, the rest of the DLC campaigns are decent
Well, that along with the image, & you've sold me.

I like making custom games a fair bit too, so having large maps is often really nice, even if the given campaigns aren't too large. I noticed their latest update on GT:MF as of a couple of days ago, included two extra (free? additional value?) operations for one of the DLC's they put out ages ago. If they're doing stuff like that, I actually feel pretty good about throwing money to them.

Yeah, GT:OS had a ton of campaigns, but without DLC, there were only four or five, I'm sure.

DLC had what, 4 between the two summer campaigns, 3 for the Chinese, 2 for the Afghan, 2 or 3 Angolan, plus a few more winter maps in Europe (Peiper operations, Czechoslovak division) - overall, there was a ton of it - it was good, but there was a ton of it. Game is comparatively bare-bones without it.

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Any recommended guides for Graviteam? I understand the basic stuff in combat but the ops phase,wire comms, arty, i don't understand.

>>187875810
Y O U T U B E

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>>187875913
>>187875810
Also, the manual.
Honestly so many people don't open Graviteam's manuals and instead flood the board asking questions about basic stuff
It's one of the best manuals I've seen. Alot of work was put in.

>>187875810
Basically what the others said - youtube, and the game manual available over steam.

Wires set themselves if you've got even one wire-layer unit. Keep them on AI controlled (default). Wires go between leadership units.

For on map artillery or mortars, think of it this way - at least in GTOS - each section of two batteries with their squad lead, keep them together. Their lead tells them where to fire. Your third left-over lead, in charge of the whole unit - he spots. Don't let him shoot/reveal himself. Place him on the top of a hill, with your other leads a way back in defilade with their dependent guns.

Your wire layer will do the rest of the work, and set the communications up between the two parties. Everything is set and prepared.

If it's all done correctly, the guns/mortars should chirp up as soon as the spotter spots/relays orders. If you want to disable the guns, turn off AI firing. AI firing on guns is what allows them to fire indirectly like this.

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>>187875168
There's actually 8 base WW2 campaigns for GTOS my man

>>187873290
I kinda like and dislike how you can cycle troops, not keen on the lost immediate manpower but it works. That and the loss of what units I can specifically assign to other units. No autistically picking out spare tanks to make a homogenous unit.

Is IL-2 1946 worth it lads
I want to play IJN missions, dive-bombing, torpedo-bombing, escorting, in shit like the Coral sea/Mid-way and so on. Will I be able to fulfill that autism? (as far as I know pacific doesn't exist in the new IL-2, right?)

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>>187882647
1946 is always worth it, that game has so much content it's ridiculous.

BoX does not have Pacific yet, no. Will probably start coming sometime mid next year if I had to guess.

>all this strategy posting
Is /wgg/ finally back?

>>187882647
I always found the pacific stuff the worst in IL-2. The missions are long and if you get shot down the campaign is over, basically. You'd probably have to look at mods.

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>>187876101
>>187875913
>>187876986
thanks and since it seems there are some here who play graviteam start posting more to balance planefags. As I am learning I will be posting. Combat mission welcomed too.

>>187883048
>wgg
We are posting strategy sims, not arcade wargames

>>187882472
>bullying the duck

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>Don't remember ever encountering a capital ship
>Apparently I sunk one
Probably when I spammed a load of Harpoons at a convoy and turned tail.

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>>187884641
I know I felt bad too but I had to put him down for destroying our tanks

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Hello there

>>187846346
Jesus it's so small

>>187874974
>how much money would I be forced to shell out?
0
Check blender
>6-8 months
It should be

>>187846346
>mouselets

>>187885547
>ending the cold war

That line annoys me... the cold war kinda ended the moment the first shot was fired and made it a hot war lol.

I would love a Cold War style campaign where you trail boats and monitor ESM outside Polyarny Inlet; mebbe use USS Parche to replace the Ivy Bells tape recorder. Even without complex sonar rooms etc, this is still the best thing since Dangerous Waters.

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>>187893489
To non-a-10c player, what is this?

So the imposters in DCS got absolutely fucking FUCKED this last update.

I shit you not, at long distances you can see them, then you get closer and they literally disappear, and then the imposter pops up again at really close. Shit makes no fucking sense at all.

So it works from 100-10 miles, then from 10-2 miles it goes away, and then comes back. Shits so fucking stupid. I hate this game.

>>187893489
>>187893635
*notices ur laser search*
*soflams u* :3

>>187893635
A10C has a text messaging system.

>>187894464
Sounds neat, but for what purpose, they have radios

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>>187894710
To get bullied.

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took a while but obligatory

>>187895436
thats....now how a w works :^)

>>187896071
I'm too tired to do another, I'll try again tomorrow

>>187896115
i still noticed ur bulge so its ok

>>187894979
Can you send messages to enemies?

>>187894979
Ops back in the day had to be a hilarious contest of high-speed shitposting.

Why can't the F-5E carry four sidewinders?
WHY CAN'T THE F-5E CARRY FOUR SIDEWINDERS?

>>187893731
So does increasing draw distance give you a huge advantage then because of how fucking huge they are even at BVR range?

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New art from the people making pakishit.

Do
you
think
this will come out in my lifetime?
http://imgur.com/YuoR84L

>>187901263
RIP f-14
all hail pakishit

>>187901263
>wang gang

>>187901646
SUPERPOWER BY 2020

>>187901646
Jesus,,you fucktards will just jump on anything that you think will cement your 'anti establishment' idea of yourselves.

>yet you rely on your mom for your sandwiches and juice boxes still.

>>187902397
Downvoted

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>>187894979
>>187899395
RIP Aerial shitposting

Why didn't they give the MiG-25 variable sweep wings? Wouldn't that improve flight speed since that's what the MiG-25 all about?

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>>187902397
Is this projection?
Some people like playing the bad guy, me included. Just shut the fuck up and be happy that some people like playing opfor so that you have someone to fly against.

>>187905873
Fun Fact: some of the original mock up designs did infact have swept wings. It was in this MIG-25 book I read online, it probably says why they didn't do it but I forget.

>ded

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>>187882647
You can in 1946 but make sure you use DCG so you can get a larger range of missions

bump in advance

bump in retreat

bump in flank

bump holding the line

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>>187917660
bump stroking your proboscis :3

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bos is not a sim

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<3

>>187919572
>war thunder style prop hanging for decades
not a sim

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>>187907415
>still no MARPAT helmet covers
fok off razbum

>>187919643
>200mph
>prop hanging

>>187907415
My god that looks beautiful

Is CLoD a sim?

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>>187920068
>beautiful
in it's utter ugliness

>>187919643
>climbing is prop hanging now

wow, thanks for keeping me up to date

>>187920041
>>187922272
Ignore any post with
>not a sim
(You)s farming

a sim, it is not

that, is the reality of things

>>187925096
It is, but what can we do

>>187925170
delet from thread, you shall, the unclean game

>>187926005
At least i can get rid of DCS
Thank you

>>187927106
misunderstood you have, the game is the sinner here, not the sim :)

the fetid il2 shall goo

>>187927270
What the hell, you can shoot in il-2?

>axis planes get control stiffening
>reds dont
:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ) )))))))))))))))

>>187927494
flareguns yeah

>all this slavboo posting
>not even 1 playing as german
>lol no bos has no problems
>last patch was correct

>>187928632
>Hey those guys play as a plane I don't like!
8/8

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>>187928632
>P-40
>slavaboo

>>187928857
>hey those guys only play the overpowered broken and biased planes
>those same guys swear the game is perfectly accurate

What a sad frog you are

>>187928970
bad day at work craig?

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>all they can do is call me random names
>my arguments are diamonds
mfw

I'm surprised he's holding so long not to post a frog

>>187928632
Why would I wanna cosplay a fascist?

>>187928970
>he's not playing as axis
>HAHAHA WHAT A SLAVABOO
ebin
(You)

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>not ever 1 single post as german side on bos
>they only play the broken op side
>n-no the game is fine
>s-shut up

simg exposed for the slavboo shit-nest it really is

>>187928970
Messers are OP.
Both in BoS and IRL

>>187929465
Your point would be valid if we played as that side only when it's broken
But we always play at that same side even if it's shitty in some games so your point is invalid.

>>187929626
>russian game
>play as russian
>profit

))))))

>>187929730
>russian game
>play as russian
>humiliation and defeat

>russian game
>play as german
>easy victory

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>shoot i16
>4 hits with a 20mm
>he flies and follows you in a climb
>rangom 20mm lands on your tail
>entire tail simply falls off
>no elevator no rudder
>nothing simply gone

B A L A N S

Falcon BMS > Nato DCS > UK CLoD > GER BoX/CLoD > Slav DCS > Slav BoX

Don't feed the wehraboo
>Always play as REDFOR
>Play it in BoS
>OMG YOU PLAY AS BROKEN TEAM
Whatever

>>187930191
this
slav bos is basically war thunder yak3p all over the place

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>The average wehraboo

>>187930191
sadly this

>>187930339
>redfor planes in box literally have their own physics
>tank thousands of hits
>not op

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the average slavaboo

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>fucking slavboo

>>187930578
Then go to forums and complain, we're not the devs, and we're not the ones who make the models

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the average slavboo
>ayoo what chuuu sayen?
>nah niggguah flight models are ok
>we slavs suppossed to be pullying craize RED TAIL maneuvers!!
>NAZIS ARE SUPPOSED TO DIE NIGGUAHHH

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>>187930642

So many baits I don't know which ones to feed

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>we just found a new research model
>therefore 109s be shit
>and yak be gooood
>)))

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>M-muh Aryan aeronautic UFO!

>e-model
>anglo report

keep on posting
show the world how much of a scrotum you are

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>>187931475
>>187931591
wehraboos BTFO !!!

name me the most successfull ace ever lived

and name its aircraft

and name the type of planes he shot down

ill be waiting

:)

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>i dont like this model of plane i like so it doesnt count

>early spits couldnt pull negative gs
>therefore the vb shouldnt pull negative gs

>minor engine upgrade is the same as an airframe redesign

>:) man cant use google
bit sad imo

>ill post out of context shit to prove my non-argument

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109 G-2 Flight test report

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>>187931963
fuck

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350mph is incidentally around 560kph

>>187932181
>meanwhile in bos its a ballistic brick past 500kph
>hmmmm
>i'd say korrect )))))

>>187932370
If you begin the pull out at 500kmp it will exceed 600 and maybe even 650 before you're slowing down again.

You've been proven very wrong now fuck off

>>187932442
>you cant follow any maneuver past 500 kph
you never even flew the 109 post patch little smelly slav

also i'd like to see some proof of the yak being able to surpass these limits considering its wings would fall off past 700 kph

>>187932602
You make the claims you provide the proof. That's how this works child.

>there's no proof of the yak not having control stiffness

>>187932739
Post one.

>>187932739
Post proof that it did

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>m-muh yak is basically the sukohi ancestor
>of course it has no limits

>every other plane had the same problem
>but not my slav one ))))

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>make claim
>no proof

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>plane behaves like an ufo
>no proofs to justify it

>same fms have been in place for years
>"""""""sekrit documents"""""""""" found outta nowhere
>lets boost local slav sales and make geramns shit
)))))

>>187933572
But they're not shit?
If you're doing bad in German planes then you're actually just shit

>Asks for 109 proof
>Give 109 proof
>Drops yak claim
>Doesn't give proof
Shows how serious they are

>ask why is the yak being a ufo
>ask proof showing yak is supposed to be a ufo
>no proof shown

shows your slav logic

Just go play war thunder lad

why, BoS has mouse control too, laddie

>>187934579
Because you will have whole /wtg/ to complain
We're not the devs
If you want something changed you need to change your altitude, and have constructive arguments instead of just
>XD SLAVABOO

>Doing FC3 tutorials
>Wags tells you push a button
>Nothing happens, default mapping long since changed

Its a small thing that just sums up the whole DCS experience. Either update the tutorials or revert the default mappings. Or do it right in the first place and call the command and get the software to report the mapped key.

Their inability to cope with the complexity they've created and not dealt with ahead of time with a minute's foresight is at the core of the problems with it and this is the perfect micro example.

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dont mind me just a slavboo passing by
What? yes im pulling out of a screaming dive at 700 kph without any effort!

Stronk elevator! i blacked out too blyad !

it is known muricans copied the yak to develop their high speed stang !

and dont forget !

the german side is the easy win, OP one ok !
make fun of them wehraboos
)))

>>187935317
>700kph
>start pulling at 700 mtrs
>leveled at 300 mtrs
>recover space 400 mtrs
meanwhile the 109 being a bigoted nazi dies

>some posts ago a slavboo said the 1b got stiffening too
kek

>>187935702
Roll stiffening like it should.

Sorry the 109 had a short stubby stick babe, don't take it too hard.

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>>187935835
>its ok
>nothing wrong here
[slavboos.png].zip

Give me proof that yak has problem 109 has

give me proof it doesnt

You asked proof for 109
We gave you proof
We ask you proof for yak
You say give proof that it doesn't
It doesn't work that way
(You)

bos shitposting keeping thread alive keep it up lads

you cant prove the yak has that much elevator authority buddy
:)

>>187936868
I miss sabowman tho :/

>>187936946
>tfw no more interest in bumping thread with cmanoposting
wageslaving sucks all energy out of you. dont do it unless you have to

worth noting that stick forces at high speeds are subjective to a certain extent

there tons of finn reports of guys pushing their 109s in crazy dives and coming out alive

just freezing controls at an arbitrary speed is gay modelling, especially at such moderate speeds

>>187937048
Lad, whatever money you earn, you will spend all of it
Not saying to stop working or anything, it's just that stop wageslaving and enjoy the life
Why are you wageslaving tho?

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get on my level nerds

getting bored modding skins for the A2A craft, piper Cherokee next.

i'm so fucking bored, give me some memes to turn into skins.

>>187937209
familial pressure mostly. you cant stay a neet kid by the computer all your life. well, you can but you need to be ready for disgust and dissapointment from your family

>>187937345
what's after you reach that last one step?

>>187937275
should do a CAP skin but with the /dabois/ emblem.

>>187937345
I didn't mean NEET, I meant a job but not wageslaving
But you have a family
So that changes a lot, I understand where you coming from, stay strong lad

>>187937452
which last step?
>>187937523
i fucked up my education by failing my computing degree and its near impossible to find even an entry level job without a degree, apprenticeship or experience. all that is left is wageslaving manual labour

>>187937741
Sorry to hear that lad.. I hope some miracle happens which changes things :(

>>187937741
>computing degree and its near impossible to find even an entry level job without a degree, apprenticeship or experience.

Here comes the hate, what exactly were you going to school for?

I'm a dropout, software developer, making plenty of money, i've been in the industry as a professional for the last 5 years, i've been writing software for about close to 10, i'm only 25.

YOU NEED PERSONAL PROJECTS

"degree required"? fuck what the post says, apply anyway, most of those listings were made my literal retards.

I saw a local listing of a company needing someone with "15 years of NodeJS experience", node has hardly been out for 8 fucking years, managers have no idea what they want or need.

Also protip: sitting in mommies basement writing demo programs is 100000x better for your time than an UNPAID internship.

spend 2 years working at mcdonalds part time and writting shitty personal projects, then apply for every low hanging dev job you can find.

work with them for a minimum of 2 years, and move on to the next one.

this field is fucking hard, technology is ALWAYS changing, employers will always be looking for something new, and unless you're honestly dedicated and want to stay in this field, you will never be able to keep up with the new tech.

Sadly, this is NOT a field where you can simply go to work, and come home and sleep.
When you get home, you need to be researching new technology, and working your brain.

get some motivation damnit, i want a piece of software written my noon tomorrow

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What the hell is going on in this thread?

it wont happen
just kys real quick
:)

>>187938810
im trained in network design and people wont take you unless you have the correct pieces of paper in your resume. guess i need to learn to code. is it important which language i learn first?

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>>187938838

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>>187939359

>>187938810
>all this reddit spacing
in the junk it goes

>>187938838
>>187939359
>>187939474
you can't do that, the 109 is literal trash!!!!!

>>187939474
>>187939359
>>187938838
0 maneuvering
holy shit the 109 is op

>>187939104
Not him, but no. Most managers aren't even aware how computer languages work. If you work in the west and not a sweatshop in India, then you won't be required to codemonkey. You'll be designing code refactors at best.
Also the correct pieces of paper don't necessarily count unless they have a computer sorting through their resumes. Start small and make sure you take face-to-face interviews and it's doubtful anyone will even look at them.

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someone buy me a P-40

>>187940305
Why would you ever engage a maneuvering target lol, just shoot people who don't know you're there.

German aces IRL racked up huge kill counts by flying up Yak's asses and Bubi'ing them, you should do the same in game. Turn fights are for suckers and Spitfires.

>>187940610
someone please break DCS' street rules and import a full-fidelity 25.

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>>187940610
someone buy me dcs ww2

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>>187940770

>>187939104
Also if you're trained in network design, impress your employers by designing a new type of network scheme for something that sounds futuristic but really isn't if you have any experience with the internet at all. Most HR employers are dinosaurs and won't realize that "Peer distributed webpages" and "Secure self-repairing local area networks" are both things that have been done for the past ten years. Don't even need to code them either, just put the general design of how they work into your resume as examples of projects you've done (get a github just in case).

>>187940490
HR ie the people that look at job applications might as well be computers when they sort resumes. all that counts is the correct papers, at least to get an interview, since they know jackshit about computing. it's later when you get to showcase your skills.
>>187941078
yeah that's some good shit right there. i'll need to start getting a portfolio of stuff like this i suppose. it's just tough getting this shit done when you work for 9 hours and commute for 2. im fucking dead mentally and physically after i get home, and use weekends to rest. though i suppose i have to try to get things like this done if i want out of the wageslave life

>>187940682
oh ok but

yak get hit, doesnt die and dodges cuz his controls are stronk

you pull away vertically

he follows you like a helo with magik flaps and hits you with lazers and you die in 1 hit

literally everytime

>>187942951
The flaps don't help with climbing you know right?

>you pull away vertically
That's what you're doing wrong, you're not a helicopter as much as you wish you were.

If you zoom off into a *gentle* climb them nothing will catch you, if you pull and go straight up then anything chasing you will just cut the corner on you and fill you with lead.

This is like Messer tactics 101.

>plane that lost war is shit
>it's somehow surprising
Kek.

>>187945638
yea, fucking wehraboos i swear
blyadd ))

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That feel when completely overwhelmed by Mius front UI and campaign changes after 5 minutes, after spending so long becoming intimately familiar with GT:OS UI

I'll admit, despite thinking the graphics were all washed out pissfilter at first, they do look pretty in the moment.

It seems like they're way more willing to give out trucks here - is this a trap, or do they want me to use them? I know here they can tow guns, but still, GT:OS trucks were either glorified scouts, or sacred supplies to be hidden at all cost. Feels weird to be given them for transport - every second unit seems to have them.

I don't like how they changed off-map artillery though, it seems overly convoluted now. Oh well.

t. did entire force assault order just to see how the game looked

>>187946571
what game

Flight sims are so fun! Flight sims are my favorite flight sims.

>>187946696
Graviteam Tactics, Mius Front. WW2 era battalion level combat sim.

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>>187936771
You want a proof for something that didn't exist?