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GET IN LORAN edition

Missed the fight club >>187620726


>information. If you're new to Bloodborne and /bbg/ READ THIS FIRST BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>/bbg/ Spelunking Club
Password = /bbg/
Create a new S/FRC chalice dungeon and beckon anons to join
OR
Use the Short Root Chalice with the password /bbg/ to be summoned or invade
(every Friday 6pm EST, anything goes)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne AR Calculator
http://pastebin.com/zGphv4fF
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First for Oedon is a nigger
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day walker how much vit do you even have
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>>187705418
40vit, too bad fights are too laggy
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>>187705586
is it my end or yours?
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Well I'm located in the US, so I assume it's gotta happen anyway
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>>187705731
I'll restart my stuff now anyway
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GG dayman
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>adversary is lagging and running on the spot
>all I can think is "I hope the fault isn't on my end"
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>Rifle spear is shorter than the church pick
why from
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That spacing with the church pick was really cool anon, good fights
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spooky fight hibiki
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>>187706006
same
I feel like I am fighting with connection and lags than the player himself looking at you Clarence my aussie boy
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>be me quite a while ago
>decide to start an ARC build
>drop it pretty soon because other games
>come back to it, finish my build after spending way too long on it
>i'm bl98 but i only have 20 vit
>realize i leveled both strength and skill to nearly twenty because i wasn't patient enough to wait for proper AR with gems
I don't want to do everything over again. Please, Miyazaki, have mercy on me. I'm literally dying to everything in one hit
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>not even Korean-gemmed arcane saif is carrying me through FC
I think this is the best weapon in the game
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>>187706320
>be pvping on a fast paced action game
>said game is notorious for shitty netcode
>be Aussie
I was fucking doomed from the start
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That second hit shouldn't have happened Day
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>>187706770
>Korean-gemmed arcane saif
Pic?
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>>187706978
i said not Korean gemmed!
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>>187706770
Moveset wise, its among them
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>>187707002
Oh. You said "Not even Korean-gemed saif is ..." rather than "Not-even-Korean-gemmed Saif is ..." so I thought that meant you were losing.

Yeah, Saif is absolutely ridonkulous. Is there an impromptu happening?
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>>187707131
loran my dude
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>>187707131
yes it is come to loran anon
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>>187707131
Loran boyo
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>>187707254
>>187707250
>>187707241
wholesome
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returning in loran rn, have a thing
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Tips on using parasite? I'm trying my fucking hardest not to dash-r1 spam but every other move is so slow and consumes ridiculous stamina
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>>187707479
Supplement with tools, use backstep attack and combo out of those. Don't be afraid to use it one handed and make use of the transform attacks
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>>187707453

>>187707479
dashr1 and running r1s should be 60% of your moves, non dashr1 are either whiffs or unlocked r1 to catch dashes and overall offguard people, jumping atk has HA so use it too, don't bother with l1s
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>>187707479
At the end of day, most weapons in BB rely on their dashR1s. If you want to do something besides dashR1s over and over, try delaying R1 chains, or using R2s, or baiting aggressive opponents into the L2. I don't have a lot of (see: almost no) experience with PK's moveset, but that's the general method of using most of BB's weaponry.
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>>187707935
>>187707928
yes, i forgot, r2 is great too because it's basically a sligthly slower dashr1 that can catch dashes pretty well, delaying unlocked r1 chains is a pretty good technique as well
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>>187707928
heh..
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>just woke up
>there is a fc
im probably gonna pay for this, but i will regret if i miss it
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NUUUU L O N D O N

Did I brew you while you were gesturing?

I feel bad :(((
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what a good fight lotte
im gonna choke down a hotdog brb
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>>187708456
hot desu
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>>187708456
Ulthar?
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>>187708347
I deserved it. But you had a clutch free aim
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Oh Ulthar if you're still around want to help me clear out Loran?
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Damn, that's a sweet cosplay. Post face? He kinda looked more like Samuel Jackson, but maybe that was just the weird loran lighting.
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>>187708638
I'll come. Which loran?
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SEGALT IS PENIS
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>>187708706
basic Ailing, one second I spoke too soon, phonecall
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>>187708770
I don't have any of them anyway so SRRCing with pass bbg
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>>187708561
Generally my free-aiming isn't so hot unless my foe is being aggressive

Played a lot of pyro in DS3 though so free aiming 'sploding balls isn't new to me
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>fog gates continuously appearing and disappearing
>lost connection meme but not actually a meme this time
>this but for 10 minutes now
I just want to fight people
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>>187708535
yes
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>>187709067
>fog gates continuously appearing and disappearing
That shit is the worst, except for me its permanent. Like, noone ever arrives but I cant access the Hunters Dream either. Fuck that shit.
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>>187708638
yes I am, tell me when you want to
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>>187707453
>see lotte use the whistle dash away
>it hits me 2 meters away
>evade tricked bow shot
>stagger animation but no damage
I'm really sorry I don't know what's wrong with my connection the past month it was never a problem before
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Is 34 vit at bl98 viable?
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>>187705194
>beat the bloodletting beast
>didnt drop the defiled chalice, or any chalice for that matter
Is this a glitch?
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>>187708643
I suck at sliders so he doesn't really look like Wesley Snipes, probably moe like comic book Blade
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>>187709312
I dont know man, the only person i've connected with in the past 15 mins was ulthar and his saif was really off i think it's just me
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>>187707928
*teleports behind you*
heh.. nothing personell kiddo

i'm sorry i didn't save the clip so I can't show you my pov
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>>187709464
my saif (female) is buffed with my Aussie lag powers
i can stop using me it if you wamt
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>>187709464
I had to leave suddenly but I only got you, ulthar and clarence and both of them are aussies and lagged a bit as well for me. It's just a laggy fc i guess
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>>187709563
I dont mind really, lag is part of the game, it was just to add an example
even though both my unzips should have hit this time and im mad
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Fite Klub: Third World Edition
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>>187709721
Thanks for being chill my dude, if you want me to let up on the saif though, just say
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One day I'll hide in the pillar rubble and noone will find me on the FC. The stones just have to align right.
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>>187706030
How can powder boyz even compete?
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>about to kill lotte
>bell silenced
god DAMNIT
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>>187710050
Dial up ended?
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>be naughty, ring sinister bell
>most people die in about three swipes of my HLMS
>one guy takes like 50 damage per swing instead of 500

How?

I should have made a webm. It was literally bullshit.
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>lost connection to the network. Returning to title menu
I'm so sick of this
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>>187710726
i don't know you lost connection to me
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>>187710756
It's a bug, dont press anything

>>187710761
You're the aussie not me
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>>187710902
ill leave this shitty country one day ;;
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>>187710756
Do NOT press okay, just wait until you get sucked into invasion. Once you're in someone's world, you can press okay and it wont boot you out.
I'm fucking convinced at this point that this is what causes those infinite fogwall bugs.
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I thought that blunderbuss on a parried guy would deal much more than 400 dmg
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>>187710707
>tfw only getting one person over and over again
Hibiki is great fun but I'd appreciate some variety too. Is the IP pool conspiracy not a meme after all?
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>>187711268
Ygorl i see your ghost but can only connect to hib and ulthar
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>that axe with its 300 degree attack radius
wake me up.mp3
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What gems am i looking for in a boom hammer for a str/arc build?
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>>187711514
You can i-frame through it, but its almost "i-framing through a direct cannonshot" tier.
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>>187711583
Nourishing
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>>187708797
>>187709161
Sorry, I had a phonecall, a very long phonecall.
I'll start ringing at Layer 1 Ailing Loran now, password is eyes again
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nice parry lottie :^)
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>>187711707
I'm sick of people iframing my unzip while in visceral state, this last fight was the fourth one
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>>187711703
alright then, coming
thanks for having me at the FC
and thanks for the easy games lotte :^)
im kidding love you
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>>187711815
See you again when you move out of the kangarooland
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>>187711703
Coming daddy.

Is 9:20am on a wednesday too early to be playing guitar? My neighbor is mad
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>>187711815
>red spiders
Right, I forgot about these creepy little bastards.
I'll kill the bellringer first this time
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>>187711945
not for a few years my friend :^)
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>>187711807
>iframing unzip while in visceral state
what?
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>>187712151
this, most likely just latency
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Thanks Ulthar and London, I'll start ringing at layer 2 now
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>>187713019
not really latency
you a bit late
basically you have no time to walk around after shot
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no really, why didnt the bloodletting beat drop anything, i killed it twice now
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Is FC still going?
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>>187713019
holy shit that is awful
on my screen i quickstepped away before you hit me
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>>187713238
I clearly remember that you once parried me from a distance and had the time to dash towards me and unzip with no problem
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>>187713304
YEY NIGGA GET IN LORAN
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>parry
>dash up to visceral
>phase through enemy
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JUST
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beamspam for the victory!
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London are you coming back in? We're waiting before the layer 2 boss for you
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>>187714523
L O N D O N
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>>187714559
I know but I don't feel like typing that.
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Which single part of the game is the most tedious?
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>>187714723
FRC spelunking
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For christ sake again
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I can't believe I forgot about the bloodstarved beast's grab attack.
One more try Ulthar?
I need to go to bed after this, I shouldn't be staying up so late as it is.
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>>187714723
The entirety of Nightmare of Mensis
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>>187714559
>>187714523
Sorry my internet died. Going to work soon have fun
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>>187714921
yeah I'm ringing
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>>187714723
For me it's getting all the ritual materials to create the chalices you need
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>>187714723
not having friends
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Im sick of fighting only the same two people, is there even someone else at the fc
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>>187714938
That's okay, have a good day and thanks for your help.
>>187714941
See you soon then.
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Fuck me what am i doing wrong
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>>187715020
I'll be coming once I'm done helping mommy-chan
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too close for unziping visceral state
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>>187715059
not getting anything, might just call it now then, I'm gonna run off to the FC again, sleep well
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>>187715163
Yeah but if i take more than one second to position myself better people are just gonna iframe through it
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>>187715020
Been ringing sinister for 10 minutes and got nothing yet.
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>>187714723
Farming gems, you can run be done with the maingame/dlc and chalices in less than 6 hours if you're good and don't waste time by killing everything you see.
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for the record
chicken leg is better than saif
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>>187715198
Fair enough, have fun and good night.
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>>187715547
not even
also how much hp lotte holy shit
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>>187715680
Around 24
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>>187715737
crying irl
1 unzip almost 1 hit me wew
got time Korean gemmed or nah
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>>187715547
Maybe if the saif is +1
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>>187715763
It has 2 27 and one 31, it hit for 900~because it was a chit
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Anyone farming anything?
Or is everyone at the fc?
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>>187716160
I've been at the fc for 3 hours but the only people i've met have been sarah ulthar and hibiki for some reason
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Who's at the FC? I know there's Tira and Ulthimar something
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What is better for fun as a BLT build:
>44/20/14/14/50/6
Or
>35/15/28/14/50/6

I want to use both the Bloodletter and the Chikage,
Since they are the only two BLT weapons as is.
Reiter does not count
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>>187716275
Tiramisu, Ulthar (me), Sarah, Hibiki
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>>187716342
oh and lotte how could I forget
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>>187716281
You forgot bowblade
Also first
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Anyone want to spelunk? I still have an unexplored frc pthu
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>>187716570
I was just about to ask if the FC was still on but I could go for a spelunk.
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>>187716570
Glyph?
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>>187716275
>>187716342
Haras left
>>187716281
you don't want to use bloodkekter
not worth
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Does anyone have the sliders for Lovecraft's face? Do they even exist?
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holy FUCK lotte
>dying to tiny tonnitrus
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>>187716774
I died to the health drain of the chikage because game didnt register the weaponswap imput so instead of doing a bowblade l1 it just charged a chikage l1 and sudokued
I dont know what you saw on your screen but i was already dead before the tony
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>>187716913
on my screen it looked like it killed you
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>>187710352
Well, they made the Whirligig and Boom Hammer.
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>>187716570
sign me the fuck up
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>>187716471
Thats true.
Only problem i have with the first one is the very tedious start, i will basically do no damage until i manage to beat Logarius or almost all of the DLC
Any tips about that? Inb4 git gud
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>>187716570
SPELUNKING
Glyph: wma8vw9k
Privacy: open
Pass: bbgarc
First come: first serve
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hi katka
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>>187717527
Howdy
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>>187717640
how are you tonight
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>>187717351
Just upgrade your sawspear till +6 until you grab the chikage
It's easy
T. Did this
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>>187717516
You fill up already?
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>>187717119
boom hammer is such a joke

needing to be buffed after every strike is the most retarded concept ever
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>>187717789
Only Ygorl is here
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>tfw will never be augured irl

Why are we still here?
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>>187717684
Got it. Thanks for the advice!
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>>187718029
Tfw will NEVER be parried and visceral'd irl
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>>187717887
WE ARE FULL
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>>187718029
Doesn't seem like a particularly pleasureable experience desu
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>>187717887
Doesn't look like I'm getting in.

>>187717678
I can't post it atm, but, that picture of the dude standing on his desk flashing dual peace signs, with "I have severe depresskon and wanna kill myself every day" written out on hidesktop PC
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>>187717814
>Hating on the Boom Hammer
Never in my life would I have seen the day.
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>>187718029
>>187718089
not with that attitude
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>>187718513
Me on the right
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>>187718513
I'm the lesbian looking fuck with the bag
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>>187718790
He look like the rich white kid that spends 200 euros on yugioh cards
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>FPS reduced to 4
>lost all sound
>fire cannon in blind
>everything goes to normal once host and other cooperator die
Sasuga memehacki.
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>>187718240
i know the feeling
hope you feel better soon
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Kek. When I went into the tunnel it was like the D-Day scene from Saving Private Ryan; surrounded by mobs and the game's sound cut out so I died in total silence
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>>187718513
What's with the giraffe?
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T-that's embarrassing
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You guys in layer 2 yet?
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>>187719092
[he stabs him (Her)]
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>he doesn't know the ONE SIMPLE TRICK on the parasite
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unfortunately have to get back to irl
have a nice spelunking LV
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>>187719870
parashit
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>>187719958
>jump instead of roll
At least I face death with a gleefully gay happy prance.
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L1 REPORT
Absolutely Haras
Pre layer: RB5
Pre boss: RB5
Watcher Boss meme

Onto L2!

>>187719958
Thanks Funhammer
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So this is what /bbg/ has became? A circlejerk of waifufags? You all make me sick to my stomach since you actively defend the cancer ruining this general, go fuck yourselves
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Ygorl you coming?
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>had a dream about some special merch being released for Bloodborne all of the sudden
>namely, the logarius wheel fidget spinner
>wake up
>now kinda want one
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>>187721160
(you), its what you want right
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>>187721160
That's not nice. We sometimes post Druids too.
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>>187721169
The bell procced but I got "connection lost", thought it occurs when the host dies or something. If it takes too long feel free to ditch me and fill my slot with someone else.
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>>187721252
>knows it's bait
>replies anyway
Why, why, WHY the fuck do you morons do this?
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>>187721325
Nah keep ringing
We are going to do the Bonus room
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Wtf guys
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Lol. Queen Killer was invisible until he was right on top of me
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SARAH HAS A NEW PSN
ALL HIS PSNS ARE
orderusafreak
sarah_from_bbg
coldnegative
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>>187721252
>>187721404
it's not bait. It's what I genuinely think of this general. Quality has plummeted since waifufags came and we both know it. Don't call it bait because you don't like what I have to say.
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>>187718513 #
What does one even do at a fa meetup? r8 each other? Suck each other off?
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FUCK


But also kek.
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>>187722064
That was my fault, I aggroed it when I went there because you weren't at the lamp and apparently it just stayed there. There is also QK in the same room if you dont know already.
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>>187721640
>Has to create new PSN ID's because people keep blocking him
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>>187721814
Stop shitting up the thread then. Target specific problems with specific solutions. Get your fucking head out of your ass and target people who actually ruin the thread, stop targeting people just because you recognize their name. I agree with you, the thread quality has dipped, but not because of """"""""waifufagging"""""""". You certainly aren't helping.
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>>187721160
I want to fuck Iosefka's feet.
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>>187721814
Waifufags been here longer than I've seen you shitposting, so we can all safely assume you're just a newfag.
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Having to wait for the SRRC to do its job is the wost death penalty in From's games' history.
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>>187721640
>posting PSN ID's
jesus fuck what'd he do to deserve this shit?
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>tfw too autistic to PvP until 8 weapons are completely Korean gemmed with adepts, tempering abyssals and heavy abyssals
See you in a week bros.
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>>187722315
>responding to garbage with garbage
Nice, good job, thread is saved
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>>187716747
they definitely do as some anon made his character
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>>187722272
Specific problems like Eggnog? Fuck him, we should start blanking him out as well as any other waifunigger
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>>187722834
N I G G E R M A N
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>>187722885
You have no tact and no subtlety. You will achieve nothing by spouting "blank waifuniggers! XD" all the time. Stop posting the same exact thing, people can recognize you and will immediately ignore you. Just give some effort, damn
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>>187722885
I'm still not gonna.
I don't even care.
The fact you hate them just means I'm gonna be even more interested to summon them.
Congratulations your pointless hatred of something has elevated them to celebrity status you stupid, beastly niggerfool
>>
>red spider is looping its jump animation instead of walking normally
>hit it
>instead of getting staggered it just hits meback
i wish i could do webms
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>>187723256
>Summoning egg
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Le not reply meme
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I hate those fucking gardens
Okay I found the lever and I'm back at the lamp
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>>187722885
>>187723394
I'm not that bad ;;
>>
>hating on kind people in the general that have been helping people out for a long time
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>>187723394
>blanking out a summoned /bbg/ player who rang their resonant bell to come and help you
You're the nigger in this scenario.
>>187723503
We know, niggers are gonna nig.
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>>187723685
>help you
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>get break from work
>check /bbg/
>people falling for (you)-starved beast bait
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>>187723732
>what is beckoning
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>>187723806
SEGALT
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>>187723909
IS
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>>187723685
I am not the shitposter but who else is worse than egg when it comes to pve?
I don't think i've ever played with anyone that dies more than he does.
>>
IS
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>>187723973
PENIS
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>>187723973
PENIS
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>>187723902
>what is a shitter who dies against the first enemy he faces
>>
>>187723994
>>187724107
Meat shields are useful.
Sometimes a flailing screaming bait to draw all the spiders away while you kill the bell ringer is exactly what you need.
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>>187723994
katka, but since he's a mentally retarded nigger with shitty converted weapons, no one cares
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>>187723994
>>187724107
>>187724204
>>
>You'll never get bullied like Egg does

why live
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>>187724204
summon an npc then at least he has a shit ton of hp
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Reminder that greatonefags are cancer and trash that came from the ni*htmare to ruin /yharnam/ Here is a list of them:

Amygdala
Kos
The Mensis Brain
Rom
Kosm

Whenever you get one of the following people in your reality as an eldritch horror, bolt spam them out. When you get them as an adversary, remove your insight. They are the ni*htmare cancer and even if they can't be AWAY AWAYed they should be denied children by all decent yharnamites.
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O
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>>187724440
MY
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>>187724440
MY
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>>187724438
>he did not censor "nig" like the any FROM namechecker would
8/10 put more effort next time.
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>>187724438
>Rom
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>>187724290
I've actually never summoned you so I have no idea.
But I did summon someone who died like 5 times in one layer during a spelunk.
>>187724413
>not jolly cooperating with /bbg/
why?
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>>187724584
From isn't in charge of censoring 4chan posts though..he's mocking "r*ddit"
>>
L2 REPORT
Fucking QK
Fucking Keeper
OINKED & AVENGED
Red spiders everywhere
And all those temperings
Cheesed BPS was(n't) fun!

On the next layer there will be:
Red spiders
>>
>>187724596
>jolly cooperation
>cooperator dies immediately
>cooperation
npcs are also better than niggers with story gems or katka, as they deal more damage than those faggots
>>
>>187723473
Thanks for taking us/me over to it. Sorry for the wait; the SRRC was killing my soul so I ran the dungeon
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>>187723547
Stop this, like being """"kind"""" absolves every flaw a person could possibly have. Not saying we need to blank anyone out here, but anons are allowed to be annoyed with other anons regardless of whether or not they carry shitters itt or not
>>
>>187724785
Okay, now think of it the other way around.
>not helping fellow /bbg/ players by summoning them to help them get echoes and insight
>>
>people here summon other players
>people here summon
>>
Anyone up for a stakedriver charged r2 only frc run?
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>>187725194
>people here don't summon other players
>people here don't summon
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>>187725106
>implying cooperators wants to get summoned to get echoes and insight
>implying they even remotely care about those things
>>
>>187725194
just play offline and don't discuss it with anyone
in other words leave
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>>187725338
Stop being a shitter :^)
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>>187724471
>>187724579
GUIDING
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>>187725603
ebrietas!
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>>187725694
MOONLIGHT
>>
Anything you'd like to tell me?
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>>187726256
I'm gay.
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>>187726256
I have a bf and I love him
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Man this Ihyll is really letting us have it.
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>>187725312
>>187725312
>>187725312
>>187725312
>>187725312
Anyone?
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>>187726476
>started an hour ago
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Sorry, have to drop out from spelunk, so dont wait for me.
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>You'll never have an Amygdala vomit on your dick while her hands deny you of oxygen
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>>187726513
kys
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>>187726619
You're not my fucking boss
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>>187726513
Yeah the thread is fucking dead, i'll return later when the good players are on.
>>187726761
Here's a (you), get your miserable life sorted.
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>>187722185
actually I've already had multiply accounts for different PSN stores
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>>187727168
>Different PSN stores

Explain further.
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>>187726616
We got BLP, thank you for joining Katka and Ygorl. It was fun
I swear, I'm not always that bad :^(
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>>187727363
I can't decide whether I'm glad or sad that there's no L4 lol. It was quite a trip. Thanks for hosting m80
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>>187722834
Fuck, that looks better than mine, I should've waited. Thanks anyway
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>>187727210
Regions. Sarah is slavshit
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>>187726943
no one wants to play with you retard, back to r//ddit, chynn
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>>187727721
But can you get different sales and games that aren't on the U.S PSN store?
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Why can't I decide between physical and arcane build?
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>>187727856
ARC/STR ?
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>>187727210
to avoid some delayed releases and get different discounts
basically have eu/us/jp psn accounts
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Damnit, I don't want to, but I need more Cold Abyssals. I think I want to put together a few Atk. v. Open Foes Arcane-elemented weapons for the next FC/impromptu and see how they stack against my Bolt stuff. Anyone hosting?

>>187727856
Because Phys is better but Arc is novel.
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>>187727782
Why is it so hard to spell reddit? Is your autism that severe?
>>
>>187727932
and yes for >>187727798
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>>187727932
>>187728382
How can you read anything though?
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>>187728358
Gets his posts through word filters.
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>>187728358
because 4chin tells me it's spam, negroid
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>>187721640
who's sarah
>>
Can you do blunt or thrust damage when you have arcane gems or is it physical only
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>>187728462
how should I answer that foolish question?
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>>187728826
A blunt attack is a blunt attack, even with arcane gems on your weapons. Same thing for thrust attacks. It depends on the moveset, not the gems.
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>>187728830
by being nice ;_;
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>>187728608
MAYBE

JUST MAYBE

YOU SHOULDN'T POST THINGS THAT ARE CONSIDERED SPAM BY THE MODERATORS OF THE WEBSITE YOU ARE ON
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Would anyone want to run through Cainhurst with me, killing everything in sight? I'm level 42.
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>>187729074
Yeah pretty sure this is wrong, they are subtypes of physical damage
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>>187728826
No.

Blunt and Thrust are subtypes of Physical damage. When you convert a weapon it no longer does any kind of damage except the element.

Serrated bonus dame is the exception because it's not a damage type, it's a damage bonus.
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>tfw watchdog of the old lords
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>>187729153
MAYBE

JUST MAYBE

YOU SHOULD FUCK OFF TO THAT SITE, YOU REDDITOR SCUM
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>>187729523
What is dodging left and nose boop
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Would anyone like to throw down in Loran for a few rounds and tell me how my Arcane Rakuyo feels by comparison to my Bolt Rakuyo?

Or if the idea if fighting a Rakuyo sounds too unpleasant I could toss the gems in a Kirkhammer.
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>>187729164
Hey did you get anyone yet? I can be on in a minute, just gotta boot up
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>>187729598
>dodging
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>>187729776
Pass is bbg, ringing at lamp
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>>187730187
:-(
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>>187730273
Don't respond, just report
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>>187729598
What is playing perfectly and then getting one shot by any fucking attack
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>Farming Ebby for the past two hours
>Not a single decent abyssal
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Thanks a lot, shitposter
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>>187730892
Nothing, chynn the redditor.
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>>187730892
Blame the waifuniggers for killing a general I once loved.
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>>187729727
I would, but I can't, not right now at least
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>>187730719
>playing perfectly
>getting hit
Pick one, and not the latter
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>>187730860
>haven't gotten any gems either
>don't mind because farming with friends is fun
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>>187731571
>friends
you have none
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Only gay people use chikage
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Thank you executioner bro
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>Try to invade via SRRC because why not
>Wait for 40 minutes while watching tv
>Get summoned
>Guy immediately turns off playstation the second I can move
>messages me calling me an asshole for ruining his time

welp never doing that again
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>>187732350
Glad to smash and pound and ground, my friend
>>
What does SRRC stand for?

It's a co op item for chalices?
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>>187729964
>Wasting time by not just learning to dodge
I bet you're one of those people who use poison knives against abhorrent beast
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>>187733212
Short Ritual Root Chalice
It takes you into a chalice you don't have open if the host is ringing. You can use a password and meet up with someone specific but it usually takes a while or just go random
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>>187729598
Boops are good for your dog
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>>187732023
>>
Its weird, I never thought I'd feel limited when doing a Powder Keg build. Maybe its because I'm used to the variety of the weapons I use, but now I'm sticking to only 3.
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God I hate Chalice dungeons
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>>187734320
fuck you
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>>187734320
Come back bb<3 miss u
>>
>>187734423
No fuck you leatherhead
>>
Anyone want to farm ihyll watchers?
Take turns summoning, pass hunt
by68zgaj
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>break out meme character for the first time in ages
>do some random coop
>defiled amy
>beckoner takes about three minutes to look at me, clap and use monocle
>fight goes amazingly smoothly
>receive friend request
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What's better?

Radial cold abyssal, triangle cold abyssal +15 fire, and a hotdog abyssal with +15 fire

Or radial cold abyssal, triangle cold abyssal with +15 fire, and 21% + 31.5 fire from red aura Labyrinth Madmen?
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>>187736345
depends on weapons and multipliers
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>>187733267
Uh, no. No I am not.
>>>/wsg/1852192


>>187729727
I'm back, so, bump I guess.

>>187736345
It depends but frankly I'd rather take the theoretical loss on Madmens' gems than ever farm Hotdog again.
Webm related, 1/2
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>>187736342
Non-shitty random co-op is so very satisfying
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>>187736509
>>187736635
Gonna keep on farming this wall stating madman then

Hoping for a 21% +31.5 fire for my saw spear
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>>187736635
>Webm related
Shit that was the wrong webm.
Actual 1/2
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>>187729727
>>187736635
Sure, I'll be there in a moment
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>>187736841
2/2

>>187736935
Coolio. Do you care if it's two Rakuyo or should I go +10 a Kirkhammer an use two of them?
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>>187737037
I don't mind at all, should I wear any specific kind of armor for your testing?
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>>187736841
>6AR difference
lel
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>>187737037
BUT ABYSSALS ARE SO PRETTY
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>>187737119
Naw, I just need to get some numbers through organic combat.
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>>187737267
Okay well I'm ringing in Loran, anon. Haven't gotten anything yet so far.
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>>187737331
I had to switch to LAN and log in, sorry. I'm here now
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>>187737491
Still ringin'

Might restart if it takes a while.
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>>187705194
Are there any npcs that you need to summon to get items, quests, or anything
>>
>>187737631
Yessm. I imagine it'll take a bit if it has to "populate the IP pool" the way Souls does
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Is 18/12 str/skl on an arcane build worth it for the fire damage stakedriver meme?
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>>187737843
Yes, 18/12 let's you use Whirli too which is pretty great
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>>187737820
If you're testing, why are we fighting? Why not just have me heal after each hit so you can see if AR is any good
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>>187737843
Hell yes. Also worth it for an elemental whirligig saw!
>>
>don't even eqip the right Rakuyo
Lel
>>
>>187737908
is pizzacutter actually a good arcane weapon?

I'm not a huge fan of it. I was originally planning on going 11/11 saif/beast cutter but huge stakedriver damage looked kind of fun
>>
I'm dying...=_=
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>>187738035
Yup, pretty much anything convertable is good though Beast Claw not really since Beasthood won't increase your damage when converted. Even just for the Stake I'd say 18 Str is worth it
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>>187737802
No but you have to talk to most of them to get their shit. Crowfeather is missable and she gives 2 gestures and a stam regen rune. Alfred gives you the wheel later after you do some shit. Arianna gives you a thing you need to fight the secret boss. Everyone else you could just kill on the spot and it wouldn't matter other than gestures.
>>
>>187737960
I'd like to organically test the efficacy or lack thereof of Atk v. Open Foes vs. natural counterhits and non-counter hits
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>>187738271
Should I switch to something weaker then?
>>
>>187738324
Naw you're fine
>>
Can someone explain why saw spear/cleaver are so good for arcane builds, even though for example LHB has much better arcane scaling. i know there is something i don't have enough insight for, but what it is?
>>
>>187738426
Stat requirements, wasn't it?
>>
>>187738426
serrated bonus + fire, huge attack speed and L1 modifier from transform attack spam
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>>187738426
Serration, moveset, modifiers, Cold Abyssals increase Arc scaling so pretty much anything can get an S in Arc easily.
>>
Lol. The hitboxes on that tthing are so funny
>>
>>187738271
I tested with a friend in PvP once the effect of open foes.
It only applies to hits that connect when your opponent is on the tail end of his attack animation.
Open foes does not affect hits during rolls or dashes, hits during jumping or running, or performing any action other than attacking.
There is a separate bonus damage property for both kinds of hits (open foes and instability)

Instability is being hit out of a dodge, while running, jumping, or using an item.
Open foes is being hit while in the later frames of your attack animation and a little while after you finish your attack.
The open foes bonus from gems stacks on top of the existing bonus (20%).
So- if you have 12% total open foes bonus from gems, then an attack which triggers open foes would deal 32% more damage.

I repeat that I have tested this personally and can verify all these facts with data.
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>>187738706
They were pretty accurate on my screen, am I lagging?
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>>187738741
open foes is still king as a secondary bonus then, isn't it?
>>
>>187738490
>>187738542
>>187738578
Thanks for fast response. So if i'm buying another non-parasite weapon to be able to switch between bolt and fire, is it best to just get another saw spear? are there any other good choices outside saws?
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>>187738880
saif doesn't have the serrated bonus, but it has an amazing, much more interesting moveset and it's cheap stat investment-wise

threaded cane is always an option, but it's not as good as saw spear
>>
>>187738880
Anything that isn't Claw, another Saw is always good but a Bolt Saif is more common since Kin don't get the serration bonus and for it's moveset/low requirements
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>>187738858
For arcane conversion weapons, it's the best you can reliably get on radials. Charge atk isn't bad for PvE though.
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>>187738758
You're not lagging per se, but a lot of your attacks either reach out farther than they ought to, or they hit me before you throw 'em. It's not too bad, though.

>>187738741
Thanks for that m8
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>>187739071
Charge attack doesn't affect converted weapons sadly
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>>187739195
looks like I'm not going to invest in fire stakedriver after all
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>mfw dying to a Rakuyo
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Ok, one more with Arc conversion and I'll go compare footage
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>>187739195
Are you absolutely sure about that?
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>>187739278
I mean the secondary, not the attack itself. It's pretty devastating without the secondary working already
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>>187739195
Charge attack up affects phys damage only
>>187739278
Oil urn plus charge atk does about 8k damage
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>>187739418
Yep, same for slotting Striking gems on a converted weapon. Does nothing
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Kek. My Rahuyo hit you, did no damage, then your R2 killed me.

Gimmie one more so I can actually hit you this time lol
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>>187739568
Damn.
:(
>>
>>187739476
oil with beast cutter backstep->R1 will be enough damage for me

that plus bolt saif makes the most sense to me
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>>187739771
*backstep R2
>>
>99vit
>three clockwise runes
>summoned for lower pthu rom and amy
>massive supply of fire/bolt papers
>just fucking nuking shit, can't be touched

This is gonna spoil me on my other characters
>>
>Rakuyo hitting me somehow across the map

JUST
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>tfw can't beat Amy any time I meet her
FUCK this boss FUCK THIS GODDAMN FUCKING BITCH
>>
Damn it, I tried to bow.

I've been trying to get an R1>R2 but I'm not sure if I've managed it.

Every now and then I gett 500+-damage hits, and I assume those are counters.

Can you tell if the Arc is hitting any harder than Bolt?
>>
>>187739956
Sounds shit tbqhfamily
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>>187740370
I'm not seeing a difference between the two but I'm positive that bolt is stronger
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>>187740186
You say that, meanwhile my R2s are harmlessly clipping right through you lol
>>
Which version of bloodletter is best for a pure bloodtinge build?
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>>187740453
You haven't felt true power til you've taken three hits full on from Defiled Amygdala and you just stand back, able to to take a fourth
>>
>>187740370
bolt will always be stronger because it has better gems than arcane
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>>187740717
Pretty sure the charged R2 had HA which is why I wasn't interrupted, looked that way on my screen. Isn't Rakuyo's L2 impossible to interrupt?
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>>187740729
Normal if you aren't going Korean, if you are then farm the OoS gems first
>>
oh, I plan to go full korean.
in that case, lost or uncanny?
>>
>>187740987
Farm the gems first then decide which has the slots you got the gems for
>>
>>187740987
meant for >>187740896
>>
Blood damage is treated the same way as phys, right? Could bloodletter work on a STR build with HAs?
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>>187740850
Nominally yeah but I feel like I'm seeing way more 300- to 400-damage attacks from the Bolt Rak' and more 400+ from Arc
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>>187741208
No, Blood only scales with Bloodtinge. Untricked Letter can benefit from Heavies though
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>>187741224
arcane resistance is quite rare on clothing
>>
Ok yeah while you were in Chior garb I was getting 260 on the Bolt R1s and 225 on the Arc. That's not too bad considering.

I'm gonna go look for attack-for-attack comparisons in the footage. Thanks for the help m80
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>>187741705
Was a pleasure to help, I'm going to get back to farming Ebby
>>
50/25 or 38/38 str/arc? 24 + 15 fire or nourishings for the boomhammer?
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>>187741801
50/25, Nourishings and/or Blunts
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>>187741894
Oh I see, I wanted to mainly use the HMLS tho, is 38/38 better then?
Thanks btw
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>>187742040
38/38 is worse by 10 Total AR for HMS with Nourishings
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Ive done just about every build you can do in this game, but ive never even tried out the rifle spear or reiterpallasch.
Are they any good? Because they dont look good or really interesting at all.
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>>187742985
>reiterpallasch
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>>187740350
Pro tip: punch her in the dick in last phase

Once I discovered the wondrous moveset of the Boom Hammer she was a cake walk
>>
>>187742985
Reiter is great, Rifle not so much. 25/50/10 Str/Skl/Blt is best for them within meta, the shots don't scale that great and Reiter's already deal okay damage at 10 Blt. You can go Pure Blt but then only the shots would be worth using.
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>>187743159
I've always found reiter's general damage to be extremely underwhelming,

At least riflespear's moveset is somewhat enjoyable.

Neither are really great weapons though.
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>>187743251
>ENBfag still going at it

How many times do we have to teach you this lession, old man?!
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>>187743251
Why the do you even post enb here, faggot thinks das 2 is better than bloodborne because of his shitty gf
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>>187743316
My experience has been the opposite, did a run with BoM, Cane and Reiter only and they weren't lacking in damage most of the time. Rifle felt boring to use in comparison imo.
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>>187743470
>>187743571
Where in my post did I reference him? I just don't have any other Souls related pictures on my phone.

>>187740350
Just bait the head slam. You'll get hang of dodging the jump eventually
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>>187743251
KILL YOURSELF

KILL YOURSELF

KILL YOURSELF

KILL YOURSELF
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>>187743634
We'll just have to agree to disagree then because I honestly think reiter one of the worst weapons in the game.
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>>187736635
DELET
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>>187743874
Nice post, upvoted XD
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>always stop at layer 2 defiled chalice across all of my characters except arcane because one shot doggo
I fucking hate this. I hate every part of this.
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>>187743251
How many fucking times do you need to be told to stop avatarfagging? Where's shitposter kun when you need him?
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>>187744497
He was banned along with the baboons that put him there
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>>187744412
I've already posted my daily allotment of how2 webms but c'mon anon, Hotdog is actually quite a fair a do-able boss once you gain composure.
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anyone need help/ want company?
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>>187743470
>>187743571
>>187743874
>>187744497

Alright guys, I deleted my post. Sorry for the disturbance.
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So on regular hit, Arc is obviously worse than Bolt, even on attire that isn't geared for Arc resistance. but on those Open hits, the damage can spike pretty noticeably. It might actually be worth making a few different Arc weapons and seeing how it goes.

>>187745628
fair and* doable
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>>187745860
>Micolard, Host of the Nutritional Value
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>>187745860
Fat Asian Micolash always kills me
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>>187742215
Oh I see nice thanks. How about 45/30 for the AB?
Amy Arm with 24 + 15 flat arc?
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could someone help me out with beast possessed soul in Central Pthumeru Chalice?
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is anyone around to help with defiled amygdala?

this guy is fucking my ass
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>>187747257
3itx is the glyph
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>>187747257
srrcing, password?
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>>187747280
Pass?
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>>187747123
5 Total AR less than 50/25 for HMS with Nourishings. You'll want a Heavy+27.2%'s for Amy Arm
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>>187747280
Sure, I'll SRRC now
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>>187747257
>>187747280
ONE OF YOU POST A FUCKING PASSWORD FOR GOD'S SAKE
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>>187747280
pass is bbg3, ringing
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>>187747547
oh thanks! I am phonefagging right now so I can't calculate itmyself
I already have a 50/25 str/skl build with HA and 27.2 s on amy arm. I was just thinking that 25-30 arc may help the arcane damage a bit
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>>187747475
no pass
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>>187747872
in the room with queen killer btw
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>>187748005
>>187747774
>>187747521
I should clarify the pass is "no pass"
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>Dude animation cancel lmao
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>>187747978
With Nourishings you'll get more AR, but that doesn't always mean you'll deal more damage due to defenses. Without secondaries, a Nourishing setup will have 53 more Total AR, 68 with secondaries.
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ringing again amy
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sorry for fucking up lmao, lets try again
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>>187749209
No worries, lad.
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Should I proceed to BL120 or stay at 117?
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>>187749263
go to 120 so people who are at 98 have less chance of connecting with your overlevelled ass
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Who wants to run kkvk8jsg?

Now that I know Charge Atk Up doesn't do anything, and have this itch to try Atk v. Open Foes Up on several Arcane-elemented weapons, I now need a retarded amount of radial Cold Abyssals.

>>187749263
>>187749384
This 2bqph.
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>>187749513
I'm down, I only need a cold abyssal for one weapon though so I might not farm for too long
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>>187748720
huh I see, well i am still far from farming but I'll check it once I'll have the right gems
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>>187749384
>>187749513
120 huh? I don't believe a word you say
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>100% NG on new character
>already farmed koreans before dlc
>literally rape Ludwig
>literally kill Laurence in 20 seconds
>upgrading more weapons but cleaver is all I really need
50/25 is a hell of a drug.
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ty for putting up with me lads
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anyone mind helping me get to and kill Amy in a NG?
Pass: Amy
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>>187750134
50/25 is up there for best build. Other than the lack of arc you can pretty much do whatever you want
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>>187749787
Shit, my Elder's dead so I'd have to re-run the dungeon. If you only need one, would you mind hosting so I can be a lazy piece of shit?
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Can some smart anon tell me what gems to go with for Kos Parasite at 70 ARC? I'm farming for the uncanny setup right now but one anon told me to use two 65+ ARC to get the most out of Kos Parasite at 70 ARC
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>>187750906
I can try. might take a while between runs due to my shit internet tho. pass is tentacle
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>>187751254
I really appreciate it m8. Ringin'.
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>>187750989
70 Arc should have the same setups as 50 and 99 since the gains are consistent. There's several ways you can gem it, whichever one of these is fine.
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IMPROMPTU AT ISZ

IMPROMPTU AT ISZ

IMPROMPTU AT ISZ
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>>187751367
Thanks!
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>>187751410
No, you shut your whore mouth. I need to farm these gems.
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>>187751410
THERE ISZ AN IMPROMPTU GOING ON

THERE ISZ AN IMPROMPTU GOING ON

GET IN HERE DUDES
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>>187750382
It doesn't help that it makes every Saw Hunter and Old Hunter weapons goddamn monsters.
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wew lad. I always dodge that attack by going left but forgot you were there
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>>187751663
Mea culpa
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>>187751410
>>187751526
What does impromptu mean?
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>>187752117
Spur of the moment fight club
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>>187752117
Non-Saturday Fight Club
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>>187751773
meant this one obvs
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>>187752226
...Wrong pic?

It's all good mang. Glad you got a good'n.

>>187752117
im·promp·tu
imˈpräm(p)ˌt(y)o͞o/
adjective & adverb
adjective: impromptu; adverb: impromptu

1.
done without being planned, organized, or rehearsed.
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>>187752226
I would keep that as well.
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>>187745860
Hey, remember when you said you'd make an effort to stop?
Yeah, I do, too.
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>>187752330
Noice.

Are you gonna re-run it now or head to the FC? If you run yours I suppose I'll run mine too.
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>>187752479
Think I'll fc for a bit if you don't mind, I might not be able to play for a while soon so I'm trying to maximise that sort of thing
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>>187752616
Nah man that's cool. I'll head over there too. Thanks for hosting the one you did
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From starting a new character to get the burial bade is a ton of chalice work, god damn
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>>187752728
You literally have to beat the entire game to use it. Might as well grab the BoM and rush gehrman since they're basically the same thing
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>>187753476
You can get the BB without fighting Gehrman, you can snag a copy from the Chalices. It's possible to find alternate versions of weapons whose regular versions are locked behind badges.
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>>187753784
I just got the loran chalice, level 20, tryng to crawl my way to the lower loran chalice, oh joy
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>>187754467
>level 20
I have questions
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>>187754467
>Level 20

Need help?
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>>187754467
That's some hardcore dedication
Want some assistance?
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I really don't understand the Church Pick
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>>187755413
It's basically perfect, what do you want?
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>>187754520
I want the burial blade for as much of a NG as i can have it, also itd be fun to slaughter father gascan with a burial blade for normies.
>>187754562
>>187754842
Sure, but right now i have to finish up this depth 3 thing so i can maybe start getting depth 4 mats to then start the loran chalice

Im at whatever chalice you first kill the bone ash person, right at the 3rd boss door.
Pass UBB
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>>187755413
Its a pick made by the healing church and it decimates any Kin enemy and boss.
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>>187755589
I think you'll be able to use it from the Woods onward if you play your cards the right way.
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>>187755459
Any time I use it it feels totally mediocre; slow, short range weak per-hit damage. Meanwhile, fighting it is always like pulling hairs. Phantom hits like a sonovabitch and hits like a truck.
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>>187755749
i've only got the woods lantern, havent gone any further. an anon helped me go straight to Amy in the nightmare frontier. i think ill be set for the rest of the game.
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>>187755849
Untricked isn't great moveset-wise, but tricked is literally perfect. Vertical hits, serrated, righteous, thrust damage, sick scaling, follow up R2 with knockback, it's a utility weapon.
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>>187755589
>>187756006
I'll be at the SRRC with that pass in case you want help
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>>187755589
Been SRRCing for ten minutes, surprised I didn't get anything yet.
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>>187756258
Not that anon, and I don't particularly love the pick, but those charges R2s, both tricked and untricked, are amazing
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> literally killed in three hits by untricked burial blade
save edit much?
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>>187756674
who?
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>>187756351
>>187756568
no idea what a SRRC is, but an anon hooked me up with a kill.
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>>187756879
Short Ritual Root Chalice, the matchmaking thing for chalices so you don't have to go through the chalice too

Glad to hear that you got help though
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>>187756879
short ritual root chalice
-->>>187733368
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>>187756874
Alba
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>>187757073
>>187757128
Oh neat, Sorry. Havent played BB in ages. Getting a little tired of this chalice diving to get tier 4 mats, to go chalice diving some more for the UBB, hope its worth all the trouble.
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What build is best for church pick?
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>>187757496
25/50 Str/Skl, full 32.6% Thrusts. Can work on Arc builds and 50/25 Str/Skl builds, swap a Thrust for a Heavy for the Str build
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>>187757172
he's ok
no need to blame him as save editor
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>>187757172
Alba just has 3x27.2s if it was save edited you'd be 1shot
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>>187757691
I was (mostly) joking
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>>187757883
Can I save edit to rename myself?
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wow katka, I think it's time for me to stop playing. Can I get some feedback on my parasite playing? I've never really used it before and can't tell if I'm being too spammy.


>>187758424
yes, but not really worth it for £40
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>not being content with a rating 18 gem found off a bone ash hunter
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FC WHERE
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>>187758937
how did you miss that?
>>187751410
>>187751526
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>>187758587
I thought it was fine. I have not used it much myself though.

Good fights everyone.
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I've killed the same red aura madman 396

Still no 21% +31.5 fire gem :c
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>Joined an impromptu just as it died

fug :DDDDDDD
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>>187758587
Yeah the end of the fight was super laggy lol.

I don't have any experience with the KP so I really can't say. You got me a couple times with backstep attacks (I think?) and that seems like a decent tactic. You never went for the L2 though, so I feel like you might have missed some damage opportunities in that regard.

>>187759290
>some random pic of a gemmed BB
Well, I'm convinced.

>>187759754
Nigga, you better not be in Ihyll.
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>>187760423
I'm in a FRC Lower Loran doing this
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>>187760508
No way. I've never gone more than ten kills without getting a Fire +Fire. That would be profoundly unlucky.

Are you farming a Scythe, Dual Scythe, or Corpse variant?
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>not getting anyone for 15 minutes
You'd better unblock me!
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>>187760615
Corpse wielder
It's staring blanky at a wall like I am at my screen hoping for a good gem
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>>187760727
I don't think the Corpse variant has the same loot pool as the other two. Would you want to try the glyph I use and see if your luck doesn't change?
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>>187760727
>Corpse wielder

>trick weapon
>trick form it starts to groan in agony, phat BLT dmg
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>>187760841
Sure.
I'm farming in L3 of ete2cbjc
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>>187760992
I use a Dual Scythe Sage that I found in uq55yy4c. He's on L1 right in the pre-lamp bonus area, past two rats and three Old Yharnam-type mobs. Only catch is he's patrolling so you can't exactly sneak up on him.
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So, who was the better hunter? Gherman or Maria? Because the both of them are considered the best of their time.
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>>187761414
gherman
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I FUCKING HATE THOSE GIANT SHARK AAAAAAAA
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This lower pthumerian chalice is fucking my asshole, why is a UBB so much god damn work?
jjph pass UBB
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What is the weakness of Orphan of (((Kosm)))?
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>>187752393
And I have kept the promise.
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>>187762084
SRRCing now
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>>187762328
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>>187762336
If you're hibiki your a top tier bro, carrying my ass all this time.
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>>187762561
Nah I'm not Hibiki but glad you managed to get some assistance.
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>>187762662
>every fucking time
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>want to make a new video
>literally 4 months of clips from playing almost every day
pls help me
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Hey, anyone have any name ideas for a female character? I'm kinda stuck
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>>187763104
http://www.fantasynamegenerators.com/victorian-names.php

I just use this whenever I want to name a character. I'm sure it will do you some good also
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>>187763104
Fucko the Clown
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>>187763071
make more than one video? or just put all that shit together and voilà.
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>>187763104
Alex
Alexia
Alexandria
Bianca
Brittany
Chloe
Charis
Charissa
Clarissa
Deborah
Delilah
Delaney
Eowyn
Erica
Erin
Helena
Ingrid
Kelly
Karen
Katie
Kaylee
Lamia
Larissa
Lauren
Maria
Martha
Mathilda
Madeleine
Nadine
Natalie
Natalya
Odette
Penelope
Rachel
Sakura
Samantha
Tabitha
Victoria
Veronica
Valerie
Zena

...Those are all I can think of off the top of my head in mostly alphabetical order.
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>>187763104
Fucko the Clown.
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>>187763363
Think I'll make a PvE/ PvP mashup, hopefully won't be too jarring
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>>187763296
>>187763595
Thanks guys
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>>187763296
>http://www.fantasynamegenerators.com
>fursona names
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>>187764043
>Summerfox Creepyplume
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>>187761234
I don't think this is working out for me lol
I've gotten like 20 fire + bolt gems but not a single fire + fire from this madman

Plus there's the there's other mobs there and it's patrolling. Makes it take longer to farm and I've died a few times to it as well.
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>level 20
>people helping me with my quest for UBB
>die in 1 hit from pretty much everything
so much patience these anons
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is it just sarah at the FC right now?
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>>187763104
Jasmine
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>>187764532
That sucks man. I've gotten three or four pretty good ones (21% +29-31) from him by just a couple hours of farming, like 200 kills for all four, max. Fire +Bolt are definitely way more common than they have any right to be anyway, though.
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>>187764754
>like 200 kills for all four, max
And I'm certain this is a gross overestimation.
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>>187764689

You can be level 24 and still get summoned by level 4s, if twinking is your reasoning.
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How big a difference is the damage on a minimum requirement Church Cannon and a 50 Blt one?
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>>187765290
I don't know but at 6 Blt it's like 600AR and at 25 it's ~720.

Check MugenMonkey, lad.
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Impromptu still happening?
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>>187765290
around 40%
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Big thanks to Eggnog and Hibiki hooking a mother fucker up with help trying to get a UBB
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>>187764689
>>187765869

>didn't get summoned even once to help out an anon on his epic journey

Cheers to the anons that did, though
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>>187765290
The scaling only ever hits D tier at +3 and stays that way to +10, so it's only +100 per shot for 50 BLT

Church Cannon is fun to splash in higher builds but 27 str 16 blt will gouge almost any build other than a str one
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>>187765869
Anytime!

I thought you had to clear Lower Loran to get the UBB?
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>>187765290
>>187765949
I think it's a bit better than that. The BMA version does about 1450 at 50blt, and around 1000-1100 at 16blt
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>>187766039
you do, but i need tier 4 bloods to get to lower loran, which i have to clear lower plteherntr for those
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>>187766160
My b, I got confused on clearing Lower Pthu was all you needed to get the UBB.
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>>187765869
Are there any good players that use the burial blade?
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>>187766347
PENIS
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>>187766471
IS
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>>187766347
Not anymore. We used to have a few but everyone uses different weapons now.
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>>187766513
SEGALT
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Where to farm blod chunk?
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>>187766347
Are there any good players that use the HMLS?
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>>187723994
I once got killed by Elder's initial crossbow bolt as you come through the fog gate 3 times in a row while attempting to Farm Cold Abyysals with Gregor.

We shouldn't cast judgement on bbg-brethren, we all have bad days.
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>>187766832
Eggnog, Drisful, Celena
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>>187766832
Chynn is surprisingly good considering his is flat arc, and Eggnog is deceptively good at pvp with it
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>>187766832
Several. It's popular.
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>>187766347
Seg
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>>187766757
Definitely nowhere in the story. Chalices are your best option, try farming Silverbeast in Loran
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>>187766832
Moonlit Jameson
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>>187724247
Heyyyy :-(
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>when you learn how to cheese the bone ash hunter in cb7jig9p juuuust right

twinking so i can't get hit, thank god for that corner, beast roar, and tonitrus R2s
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>>187766832
Are you there any good players?
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That's for stealing my name.
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>>187767435
Me.
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>>187767419
Why does his necklace look like a buttplug?
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>>187766885
Egg being bad at PvE is a meme at this point.
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>>187767574
the bloodborne community (especially here) is full of raging homosexuals
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>>187764754
Ok so I've done 184 runs so far and I've gotten a fire + fire once and it had attack down curse 7.8%

This Madman is starting to piss me off
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>>187767525
>filename
It's "There Can Be Only One"
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>>187768408
I... Damn, man. I really can barely believe that.

Are you using Eye Runes? There's no reason to believe that they'd help gem composition, but, I was using Eyes (2)&(3) for my runs.

I cannot imagine how your luck could be that bad. Fire is the most common Loran primary effect and +Fire is I believe the most common secondary. The longest stretch I went without getting a good Fire +Fire gem was 45 kills.
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Is anyone Speelunking, or want help farming something?
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>>187768823
I'm using 3 eye runes and milkweed

I got 439 discovery with 50 arc

So yeah...I just have really bad luck then lol...
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>>187768823
>was 45 kills.
Was like* 45. I was doing heats of 30 kills and went almost two heats before I got the gem.
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>BL 20 Rom
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>>187768956
That really sucks dude. My condolences. At this rate you might even want to just try Hotdog, or a Silverbeast for some 23.9+15s just to get your foot in the door.
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Man, I was getting her to her second phase every time. I'll make something to eat and try again afterward.
>>187768731
My bad. It's been forever and a half since I've heard the phrase.
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>>187767419
A twink?
>Using 10 arcane AND tonitrus?
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On run 204 I got an arcane radial with +31.5 bolt and attack down 8% curse lol...
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>>187769189
I cranked myself all the way up to 24
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>>187769448
I'm going to crank myself all over your face
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>>187762438
Yea I don't know either, I thought it was going to be a "normal" comic about Bloodborne.
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>>187769364

i have 18 for augur. trigger you that i'm having fun with tentacles in early game?
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I'm trying to start a Bloodtinge build with some focus in Skill for early game and extra scaling on the Chikage. Thing is, considering the Skill, I figured I'd use the Saw Spear over the Cleaver (still haven't fought the Cleric Beast yet, pretty much ready to) but even when I pump up my Skill seven levels' worth, the Cleaver still has a higher AR. Would this be the same upgrading each to +3, or would the Spear come out greater?
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>>187769780
dont threaten me with a good time!
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I thought I was out of range for that attack but Rom proved me wrong.
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Someone farming arcane stuff?
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>>187770107
>8 more ritual blood (4)s needed before i can een start doing loran chalice
>Kill me
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>>187770371
did you not follow the speedrun guide?

you should have more than enough if you cleared the right bonus areas
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>>187770070
Depends how high you're gonna level Skill to
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Is farming hotdog for fire abyssals better solo or with other people? I need good fire wanings.
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>>187770070
>Chikage
Just build str/blt and use Basedletter and BEEG GUNZ, the Shitcake is trash tier.
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>>187770070
skill scaling only applies to the chikage untricked and even with high skill, its damage untricked isn't good

I don't recommend leveling skill beyond minimums unless you really like simon's bowblade
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>>187770718
What about Reiter?
>>
>>187770669
Strength letter is the meme of 2017. I've never seen anyone use it for pvp.
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>>187770753
reiter is better with high skill base blt

its blt scaling isn't good
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>>187705194
Is Cainhurst an endgame zone or something?

The enemies there seem much stronger than the stuff in the forbidden woods and lecture theater.
>>
Hope you guys got him, sorry for dying again.
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>>187770873
No, the Lickers in the front are pretty strong but it's best to just run past them
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>>187770545
>>187770718
I'll probably stop Skill around 25...though I may want to use Blades of Mercy as a side weapon.
Bloodtinge 50, Skill might be 35-40 in that case. Will probably pump Endurance to 15, and everything else in Vitality.
>>187770669
Nah, I've had enough of Strength builds for a while, just got off of a Kirkhammer one where I smashed through everything real easily. Besides, Bloodletter is mad late.
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>>187770801
>Implying it's just for Bloodletter
40/40 fits in at BL100 while still having reasonable vit, and if that's not enough endurance for your taste you can go to 110 instead. Get access to strength weapons as well as big guns and untricked Bloodletter.
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>>187771092
Spear should be better at 25+, BoM will want at least 40 Skill. You can do a 40/40 Skilltinge build
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>>187770873
Cainhurst is weird. The enemies at the very beginning in the courtyard are some of the toughest in the entire game, but once you make it inside the castle it's around same difficulty as Woods (if not easier) and then the boss is quite challenging.

The loot is more endgame orientated (chunks and kin coldblood) but I always do it early because it's available and not that hard.
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>>187771239
Isn't the meta 120?
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>>187770598
Depends. If you get a nerd who runs around breaking his legs but not really doing substantial damage it's worse.
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>>187770015
Not a wheel or bloodletter not a real twink ;)
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>>187771292
kek
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>>187771292
meta here is bl98, other places use between 120-150
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>>187771292
I'm not going to get into meta bickering, but if you want to go to 120, that opens even more options, like extra damage or boosting your arc a bit to get the Wheel. It's your call, in the end. Chikage still sucks though.
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>>187771292
117 is the meta

don't go a level over or under 117, especially if you plan on being active in fightclubs

don't let anyone tell you otherwise
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>>187718513
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>>187771582
Pretty much. I'm going for a 45/8/10/14/45/45 build right now. If people don't like it, tough shit. Block me then.
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>>187771526
chikage is best at BL98

it requires virtually no endurance and one stat to get insane damage

it's never going to be a top tier weapon, but it's always going to be hilarious when it lands an unzip
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>>187771582
>>187771809
*blocks ur psn*
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I have my mandatory FRC still to explore if someone want to join

FRC isz
Glyph: bfgyjcpt
Pass: ayylmao
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>>187771467
Why 98 and not 100
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>>187771809
shit dude

how's blt/arc?

isn't it a little too heavy on your bullets?
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>>187719419
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>>187772014
Coming
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>>187772026
98 is directly outside of the invasion range of BL150 (reddit meta)

100 isn't
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>>187772030
>how's blt/arc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5njg56Ib_iw
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>>187772026
Level range reasons, don't think too much about it
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>>187772026
Initially it was to hit a specific invasion range, but 98 actually comes out quite symmetrical on most builds. Skill finished up at 87, and some builds finish at 97, but most builds get every point they need and land right on 98.
>>
pwmf22gu is still the best for phys gems, right? Or has someone found another?
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>>187772301
Is that an Isz? I prefer rpkipbdn. Faster lever run.
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>>187772026
bl 100 can invade bl 150 players, 98 cannot.
also some builds are finished at bl 80, which can be invaded by bl 98 but cannot be invaded by bl100 afaik. there is no build in the game except for super meme builds that needs more than 98, so it's a nice place to stop, while keeping diversity good and not making one build OP compared to others
>>
>>187772423
nah, it's a pthumerian. I'll give yours a go though
>>
ONE PUNCH!!!!!!
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>>187771717
Are these people from /bbg/ actually meeting up?
>>
>>187772925
Yeah that's me on the right.
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>>187773347
That's pretty cool! Was it at a convention or something?
>>
Alright cheesecake and Hibki, I think thats enough Chalicing for today. I'm gonna work on getting the last of the mats for Loran now Thanks a ton!
>>
Oinked! But i pressed dodge ;_;
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>>187772194
how much damage do you lose with 5 less blt on chikage and 5 less arc on arc conversion weapons?
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>>187772925
It's either /fa/ or /k/ actually
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>>187773347
based lotte
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What's the best chalice for farming phys radials?
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400 runs on a red aura Madmen with dual sickles and I'm still empty handed

Got a lot of sages hair and disappointing gems though so that's something I guess lol.

If anyone is on in like 40 minutes from now, I'll host a Hotdog farming session in 6q77zr9h
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>>187773496
Had a great time! Good luck, anon.
>>
Saw Cleaver or Saw Spear?
Im not making a build or anything im just curious which one people prefer.
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>>187773724
spear
>>
Hidetaka vs Hayao

Sneaky overweight game dev
vs
Bitter old fuck

Which Miyazaki wins?
>>
>>187773724
If I have more str, cleaver, if more skill, spear. Doesn't matter much though since both are used in pretty much the same way outside of Spear's tricked r2
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>>187773724
Saw's tricked vertical attacks can be very useful
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>>187773526
~10%

>>187773609
>400
I'm going to bed but if you're on tomorrow I'll farm Hotdog with you.

>>187773724
Aesthetically and for its moveset I prefer Cleaver. When I need raw efficacy I use Spear.
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>>187773609
I would be down, but don't know if I'd be much help because I'm a blt build.
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>>187773607
anyone?
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>>187773985
what do you think about 40/50 or 50/40 blt/arc instead of a balance?
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I was a centimeter too far for the visceral.
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>>187774234
pwmf22gu

>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?sle=true

>>187774289
I think it can't be done at BL98 so I'm not interested.
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>>187774361
see, that's what I thought. I guess >>187772423
meant for triangles.
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>>187773985
If previous experience is any indicator, I'll probably spend the next 10 days farming Hotdog for like 4 hours a day like I did with Amy (only to get nothing good whatsoever).
Sleep well, Katka <3
>>187774162
Hotdog doesn't have much defenses against blood so you'll do fine
>>
>>187773724
Spear beause the untricked form deals serrated unlike the Cleaver's untricked form, which is a 30% damage bonus against beasts, in an absurdly fast weapon form.

The dps off a bbp firepaper untricked saw spear is hyper retarded.
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>>187774289
Just make a save state at 40/40 then go 40/50 or 50/40 whenever you want and just load your save state back when you're done.
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>>187774527
>Katka
H-how?
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>>187774527
Cool, then I will start running the chalice now.
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>>187774704
I just know from posting style, deary

Now go to sleep
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>>187774704
everyone here can be easily identified. no way you can guess who I am though
>>
I lied, im ready to continue my quest for the UBB
Ailing Loran: zmyp Pass: UBB
Stupid question, could I join someone elses chalice and use the bath messengers to buy UBB?
>>
I need help with the winter lanterns at mensis. Ringing at the loft middle pass is bbg.
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>>187774361
HP runes would make it work.

Enjoy your stam
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>>187774774
Spoopy. I've been here too long.

>>187774496
I did, sorry. That was why I asked if pwmf was an Isz before I offered rpk. I always forget whether pwmf is the Ihyll since I don't use it much.

>>187774843
You're probably right.
>>
>>187774714
I'll give you a (you) and/or make a post asking for people to join my Hotdog session when I'm ready, ok?

Have to run some errands
>>
Pete i beat the pig alone, i'll wait for you in L2 if you're still up for it
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>>187774843
You're the ESL poster.
>>
>>187774843
You're the ESLposter.

He's the only one that never capitalizes. You also get mad when people question your advice.
>>
>>187775203
>he think I'm Lotte
English is not my second language.
>>
>>187774843
How do you identify people just by their posts?
>>
who wants to raid a fresh ihyll
>>
>>187774774
Bullshit. Who am I then?
>>
>>187774996
>not enough str/skl to use chikage
doesn't work
>>
>>187775403
Secrets are secrets for a reason.
>>
>>187775160
Sorry I'm in level 2.

Elder is meming on me. You still here?
>>
>>187774996
You can't use any Blt weapons with that, plus 1100 HP in co-op/invasions becomes 770 where most people have over 1100 usually. Start with Scion and drop some Arc, ideally go over 98 for more Vit.
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>>187775039
I wouldn't know how long you've been here desu. I'm still fairly new (think I've been posting here for about 3 weeks now)

Anyways cya tomorrow!
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>>187775527
THEN WHO AM I?
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>>187775979
he was trying to showcase how you could do a arc/blt at BL98
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That was a pretty fun fight, but I could not understand the timing on any of her charged attacks. I just kind of spammed and hoped to not get hit.
>>
>>187775971

Before boss room
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>>187776319
Yeah I realized that a little after I posted. Honestly 98 is pretty bad for Blt/Arc, 102 is the minimum I'd recommend for it
>>
uggh mergos middle is full of invaders but no bbgers. Running back to the dream to resupply but I'll be back at the loft ringing with BBG if anyone wants to help out with the lanterns.
>>
>>187775371
There are a ton of people who don't capitalize. Some don't even capitalize their fucking 'i's, triggers me something fierce I tell ya
>>
>>187776262
Ygorl most likely
>>
>>187776397
Can you help me with Elder?
>>
>>187777120
Who am I?

I'll make it easy for you, boss.
>>
>>187777276
NIGGERMAN
>>
>>187777254

Coming
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>>187777387
nvm got him.

I'll join you on later 3
>>
Is there any Gascoigne porn out there? Asking for a friend.
>>
Can anyone explain to me why a tempering blood gem with phys atk up 18% is showing as more of a buff than a nourishing damp gem with atk up 7.3, add physical atk 6.9, charge atk up 5%, and physical atk up 18%? There are so many more buffs with the nourishing damp gem but the tempering gem seems to add almost 40 to the attack over the nourishing gem.

Any idea whats up?
>>
>>187777779
depends on what you consider porn. Here's an erotic fiction about Gascoigne and Henryk on a long night of the hunt. http://archiveofourown.org/works/11643201/chapters/26190192
>>
>>187777625

I'm waiting
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>>187778179
Thanks, friend.
>>
>>187774714
Heya m8
You still on?
I'm ready to start the Hotdog farming session
>>
>>187778017
Post screenshots
>>
>>187778415
I had to eat some dinner. Running through the chalices now.
>>
>>187777346
I WISH
>>
>>187778484
Ah alright.
Give a (you) when you're in L3 so I can start beckoning

Password is bbgfire. I'll be on the stairs to the boss
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>>187777120
Wrong but that's OK
>>
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I'm not digging this place too much. I try to take out priority targets first, but everything seems to be one.
>>
>>187778616
Lure them or just run. If you're surrounded and that guy comes in, just run
>>
>>187778465
Aiight. Give me a second to get them uploaded.
>>
>>187778484
Well, shit

Turns out I misread the spreadsheet and this glyph is an Abhorrent Beast one lol
The one above it was the Hotdog glyph
>>
>>187778930
I'm still down to do the real hotdog glyph if you want.
>>
>>187779086
Real hotdog glyph is 758v8txa
Want me to help you run through it or you ok going alone?
>>
>>187779183
That would be cool. I'm ringing with PW hotdogu at the L1 lamp
>>
>>187779284
>Almost dying to Silverbeast
>>
My Str focused character is currently at 72, if I go to the Hunter's Nightmare will I get fucked up?
>>
>>187779727
Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. Ringing at L2.
>>
Does this general just talk in here, or do you guys have a discord you're all babbling around in?
>>
Amy's dead Pete but wait there's more, layer 4
>>
>>187779875
Talk here
>>
>>187779735
No, the recommended level is like 65+ but it's more than doable at lower levels
>>
Hey Eden, I'm gonna clear my Undead Giant solo.

You and Cheese can do yours without me
>>
>>187780234
Ok sounds good.
>>
best chalice for thrust gems? I want me some of that church pick action.
Also what's the best version of the pick?
>>
>>187779954
Oh shit. Let me kill Amy real quick.
>>
>>187780321
Any Watchers glyphs, normal version for Phys builds. Good luck getting them, Undead Giants drop Thrusts more often but not as strong as Watchers'
>>
>>187779875
There's a discord that the original guys post in.
>>
>>187780273
Gonna unlock L3 boss door then make a backup save to savescum
>>
So what weapon do you guys use for simple chalice farming? Whatever you like, or whatever does the most damage?
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>>187778465
Finally did it. Before and after with the nourishing and the tempering.

BTW playstation needs to figure out their sharing feature. That shit is obtuse.
>>
>>187780273
Hey Eden

I'm ready to start Hotdog farming. Got the backup save done

How's your progress?
>>
>>187781123
I'm waiting for cheesecake.
>>
>>187780928
Charge Atk doesn't increase AR, 7.3%+6.9 is a lot smaller than 18%. Phys gems increase Blood damage
>>
>>187781198
Oh. Still on Undead Giant?
Im going back up to help
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>nearly perfect gems on the wrong character
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>>187781304
Ok I've got cheesecake here now. I'm at lamp if you're still ringing. I only have 40 vit so I'm going to play this passive and use bowblade.
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>>187706573
Tfw i made a pure arcane build without lvling anything but arcane vit and end made my way to kos and killed him with a +8 threaded cane

Suck it up anon you can do it
>>
That should have never landed, what the fuck
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I think I did pretty well for my first try. What killed me was going for my Bolt Paper a touch too late.
>>
>>187781990
stop blogging
>>
>>187780351

You coming? I'm before the boss
>>
>>187781968
Le egg is bad meme

jk Eggy <3
>>
>>187782030
Okay.
>>
>>187781990
You got this, anon.
>>
>>187782142
I've got the boss door open now.
Where do you want me to ring?
>>
>>187782321
At the stairs
Beckoning now
>>
>rush chalices
>everything goes smoothly
>even chalice rom and the undead giant
>reach ailing loran D2 pre-boss bonus area
>2 spider spawning cunts locked away behind a gauntlet of rooms
>spiders spawn faster than I can kill them and do ridiculous damage

I forgot how fucking dumb this was. This is even worse than any of the FRC shit I can remember for this stage in the game.
>>
>>187782321
Password is still hotdogu, right Eden?
>>
>>187782617
Was it just giving us bad rng there? That seemed like hell.
>>
I forgot how unpredictable hotdog could be with others
>>187782931
Maybe? He wouldn't stop moving
>>
>>187780351

Sorry anon since you didn't respond i completed the layer alone, boss was ayymissary. Cheers!
>>
>fire abyssal
>+15 fire
>Attack down 8%

Why even drop
>>
>>187783369
Is he a lot easier for you to solo?
>>
>>187783498
Yeah.
He doesn't do BS animation cancels into charge as often
>>
>>187783715
Just let me know if you want to do it solo.
I'm just looking for a fire abyssal to add to my collection anyway.
>>
IT'S A

NEW THREAD

>>187784129
>>187784129
>>187784129
>>187784129
>>
>>187780928
The 6.9 is flat so it only adds 6-7 ar. Charged attack doesn't show in ar either.
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