/4ccg/ - Protect Streamer's Health Edition

Please go die in a fire

>>187655005
If I steal this bird, would it be an abducktion?

>>187655342
It would be an albatrossity.

>>187655005
kill yourself karth

#lockpond

Current /ag/l2 teams that are through the the Round of >32:

Second Game Lock Ups

/ptg/ - President Trump General
/mtg/ - Magic the Gathering
/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General
/afl/ - Australian Football League
/emg/ - Epic Mafia General


Third Game Luck Boys

/4ccg/ - >>187655005
/r&m/ - Rick & PICKLE RIIIIIIIIICK
/csa/ - Confederate States of America
/ita/ - Italianos
/seinfeld/ - *sick baseline starts playing*
/math/ - Not /sci/ but basically /sci/

-------

And dead teams:

Second Game Embarrassments

/naruto/ - Believe it!
/jojo/ - Is that a motherfucking Jojo Reference?!
/ne/ - New England
/DG/ - Dragon Gate United
/ouya/ - Randy Savage General
/ctt/ - Console Tan Tuesdays


Third Game Sad Towns

/ert/ - the >>>>>>best players
/remi/ - 2hu vampire
/trainwreck/ - shit animes (still better than Naruto)
/ca/ - Aussie Cricket

>>187655005
You faggot don't get the memo, do you?

>>187655005
>If you're progressing to the round of 32 under any circumstance, you are a tryhard
Just Karth

>>187655828
>Second Game lockups
/pol/ General
/vg/ General
/sp/ General

>>187655005
Birb thred best thred.

/edge/ won't go further than the Ro32.

>>187658053
/afl/ and the zona pissta will destroy /edge/

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duckposting is /lolg/ approved

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.

Hopefully Karth goes the way of Canadafag.

>>187659024
>being jealous because you are shit
Just git gud

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>Page ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc0gsKXC8XA

/ska/ when?

>>187659104
I placed higher than you in Summer.

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>Karth hasn't won a single thing
>/edge/ will also finish 4th

>>187660672
The only team worse than /toy/ in the top 8 was /m/. /edge/ will lose to /emg/ in the first or second round.

>>187657501
8/8

>>187661038
idgi

>>187660853
>The only team worse than /toy/ in the top 8 was /m/.
/an/ were the most fraudulent top 4 team since at least Winter 2016

>>187663073
/an/ made it in with only 3 fucking goals in the group stages. Their run is complete bullshit.

>>187663206
Stay salty Karth.

>>187660853
Can /ourboy/ save us from the Karthian menace?

>>187663337
I'm not karth, but their run is complete bullshit anyway. They beat /wg/ in a very cheeky way, had luck go their way in extra time, and won a third place game that doesn't matter. Had they lost to /h/ in the group stages, we would have had a very different result

>>187663337
Not Karth here, both /an/ and /toy/ were fraud teams.

>>187663558
/an/ should have lost to /h/ and /h/ were trash.

>>187663620
/tv/ and /m/ were fraud teams, /an/ slightly better, /toy/ was pretty good.

>>187663436
/emg/-/edge/ would be a great match for shitposting no matter who wins.

>>187663948
>/m/
Absolutely
>/tv/
Stop posting

>>187663436
If /emg/ wins that game I will convert to /ourboy/'s church.

>>187664148
>/toy/ has a hated manager
>/mlp/ has a liked manager
This feels off

>>187663719
/h/ was even worse because they had ONE GOAL. Group A was one of the worst groups in the history of the 4CC, and it had crappy viewers as well

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Be honest, what would have been the best result of the cup this year? Fucking /lgbt/ and /u/ as the final was a mess. If you wanted a great final, /o/ and /gd/ would have been a fun one, and /jp/ versus /f/ could have been another great one.

>>187665308
/a/ and /sp/ autumn final

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>Being a fan of losers
Pathetic.

>>187665580
would watch, would be hillarious

>>187665820
>lost to /an/
>conceded a goal to /h/

>>187665820
>being dead

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>>187665820
>being in the babbies

>>187665914
>>187666020
At least /fit/ is a two star team. Unlike crap teams such as /h/ and /an/ and prime time losers such as /u/.

>>187666391
>manager abandons you for /sp/
>team hero is literally a dead bogan

>>187663948
>/tv/ and /m/ were fraud teams
/tv/ were absolutely nowhere near a fraud team. Far and away the best in Group B and deserving of every result they got except maybe losing to /vg/. /m/ seemed like an obvious fraud largely because /m/ livemanaging is godawful and made a team that should have been /toy/-tier good and entertaining (possibly better, even) somehow look as bad as their previous cup's team, who were besides /s4s/ the worst team in Winter 17's knockout stage. >using HT's Moeshit Cup tactics against /vp/

Anyone arguing that any team besides /an/ were the most fraudulent team in Summer is an idiot who deserves to be shat on. Now watch /an/ be the only Pot 1 survivor in Winter 18.

>>187666391
>two stars
And so little to show for it. See /mlp/

>/h/, /an/ and /u/
What does that make /fit/, considering they didn't win against them in Summer?

>>187666391
/fit/ also won their cups in some very questionable ways. Sure their first one was logical, but the second one is one where they were guaranteed a spot in the group stages, and faced easier teams in their knockouts.

>>187666726
>good
>fradulent
There are only 3 kinds of teams. Lucky, unlucky, and so shit they'd fit in the GSC.

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>>187665820
>Being a fan of /u/

>>187666726
And they had absolutely nothing good to show in their games. /m/ made it in through PES magic and /d/ choking like a fucking bitch for the 4th straight cup, and the team not even having any chance to make it in if /sci/ didn't get that insane corner at 89. /tv/ deserved their first place finish in group B, but the way they went out was just shameful

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>>187663436
>Karthian menace

>>187668068
>not using Donte, Riven, and a wheelchair
4/10 at best

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>>187667139
>being a fan of any team to the point that they're shitposted and even raided based on some diceroll game that used to be, and should still be, for fun

>>187668479
Thank /sp/ for that one

Fun is a buzzword

>>187668986
Karth is a buzzmanager

ZERO

>>187661737
We know, Astolfo.

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>PAGE 10

>>187674689
revive /dng/

>>187675038
VGL will soon have more than 40 teams. What then?

>>187675107
multistreams

>>187675107
How alive VGL teams are is always a very open question until signups are actually upon us, since teams have to prove interest every time they seek entry

>>187675107
The 40th team has always been signed up a few hours before or after the deadline for signups, I think we're fine.

>>187675107
what do you think /ag/ league is testing?

>>187675571
VGL8: 40th team (/agdg/) signed up 7:20 after the deadline
VLG7: 40th team (/acg/) signed up exactly one day after the deadline
VLG6: Only had 37 teams
...

>>187677478
By VGL11 we will have the 41st team.

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>Page 11

Tomorrows Matches:

/usagi/ v /ll/: Its win and your in in the gayest game since the Summer Final. Draw favors /ll/.

/bird/ v /dg/: Another win and your in. Draw favors /dg/. There's a chance that whoever wins this actually tops the group

/mtg/ v /DG/: Only thing this match matters for is deciding if /mtg/ is under threat for top of the group or not.

/creepy /v /rgg/: A win assures /creepy/ through while /rgg/ needs the win just to maybe survive. A Draw leaves /creepy/ vunerable and kills /rgg/

/trans/ v /umvc3/: Win and your in. A draw is fine for /trans/ but dangerous for /umvc3/. There's a chance /trans/ could advance even if they lose here.

/bnha/ v /lwa/: Win and your in. Tie and you're both in. Lose and you're probably still in barring a blowout in the other match.

/krg/ v /kijikita/: Win in a blowout and your in, unless the other guys tied in which case fuck you you're already dead. 5-5-4-1 is a cruel group

/agdg/ v /afl/: In the only locked down group of the tournament this game matters only for placement, but it might as well be entertaining since no game in this group has been won or lost by anything more than 1 goal.

/ctt/ v /ouya/: Two 0 pointers fight to not be relevant for wooden spoons, but with /ne/ at 0 points and -7 GD even a bad showing here probably wouldn't doom either of them.

Some of us got together and made a helpful document for new managers. Please look it over if you are or are looking to become a new manager.

https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/New_Manager_Advice

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>>187683942
I'm glad you posted this. I organized shit with Dtroit and sorted IRL shit out. This is the final schedule for AGL2 group stages. Screencapped from my DMs with him because fuck typing this all out. Also the schedule for Thursday starts 3 hours (20:00 UTC I believe) after standard cup time which is why it's so short.

Wiki will be updated shortly

>>187684335
Literally tells managers to join the circlejerk with fake teams.

>>187684335
>LB/RBs will either be Offensive Fullbacks or Defensive Fullbacks depending on how you want them to play.
>not running blank fullbacks

>>187685445
This is why you lost.

>>187684648
no problem, good to see it finalized

>>187683942
/wsj/ v /dp/: A win for /dp/ is probably enough to keep them safe, but the threat of a 6-6-6-0 does loom large. /wsj/ is dead in all but name, requiring a somewhat likely /edge/ win in the next game and an extremely unlikely massive win here. In the BEST case scenario for /wsj/ they would have to beat /dp/ by at least FIVE goals. It's happened before, but boy is it unlikely.

>>187684729
You don't need to be in a circlejerk to run a fake team in a memevitational.

>>187684335
It needs some proofreading.
Before you even get to useful information it's already inviting new people to start circlejerking. That's shit.
It's also delusional about how much impact you have on PES or how much it matters if your player has passing cards or not. I see gold midfielders with all passing cards pass like retards basically everyday. You can't fix dumb AI with a card, sadly. The first two things mentioned in the article should be that being a manager is more than just submitting tactics, and that we're all just playing pretend on how important those tactics are. The sooner you swallow down the bitter pill that you are going to get fucked by PES no matter how hard you try, the better.
The general stuff is pretty good (watch old games, figure out the how and why), most of the non-tactical advice is good as well, but the more in depth tactical stuff is mostly giving people today's meta they can get from looking at the teams, with some additional false hope. Also, what card is "Long Range Pass"?
t. new manager

>>187686641
>>Before you even get to useful information it's already inviting new people to start circlejerking. That's shit.
Which part are you referring to? it could be that it's written in a way that makes sense to us but sounds like it's saying otherwise to someone else.

The opening "rule" is supposed to be about realizing that you're going to get PES'D at some point, but not to get discouraged by that fact. Again, maybe could use some rewording i guess?

I didn't write the tactical part so I don't know how to fix it. Also I guess it's a misnamed LRDrive, oops..

>>187666485
>team captain is a dead roided bogan
>team silver is a dead roided califailian
>team gold shut his channel down like a little bitch
>the other team silver is literally a city
>manager runs off like a bitch
>the fitty of /shit/

>>187684335
>Spoonfeeding: the Wiki article
Quit enabling newfags, oh wait, its Dtroit who thinks everyone will love him for it.
At what point will people stop loving him for sticking his dick in everything? Oh wait, he's the Next Old Man Sou, so never.
THis is why everything is shit.

>>187687760
agree, the cup should die.

>>187687760
Damn nigga you mad.

>>187686949
The first part doesn't talk about being PES'd at all.
>Mistakes will be magnified buy both your team's fans and the people who just want to see that team fall. In the end, though, like anything else it takes time and experience to git gud.
It suggests that if you lose, it's your mistake. Your fuckup. Not PES being a merciless diceroll.
Second and third part talk about how you should join all the circlejerks and invitationals, and even create a circlejerk for your team. That can be mentioned, but I feel it should be just a small point at the bottom on where to get livemanaging experience or board feedback if your mods really bully you hard, and not one of the first things I read.

To extend what I said earlier, I think this encourages tryhards. You give them all this cool tactical info that sometimes I question if it even matters at all, you hint at the notion that losing is their fault, and what you get is a new manager stressed as fuck because he's losing half the games he tests to uncontrollable PES bullshit and blaming himself for losses in the cup. Instead of trying to support the "it's for fun and also like a good half of it is RNG" attitude, the article only perpetuates the esports/tryhard attitude that leaves people either thinking they're PES masters or feeling miserable, which is the opposite of what you want to do unless you want a new manager to kill himself after a bad cup or two.

4CC isn't about running Anchor Man on your DMF or reading PES articles and running tens or hundreds of tests. Well, at least that's not why I joined this shit.

>>187688253
I tried to write it as if it was the manager for a big board like /a/ or /sp/, where even upon getting PES'd they'd immediately get shit on. It may have lead to it sounding a little tryhardy because of that, I'll try and rework it.

The "circlejerk" thing is more due to announcements being there and such. Also, it IS a decent way to talk to fans since most boards can't just have threads any old time, whic his why I tried to impress also that they're not to be considered "the board" but just a meeting ground. I guess it can be taken out since it's not super important besides the /aesco/ bit. I will stand by the invitational thing though, since experience does help, thoug hI could mention that it's not nessiccarily for tactics and more just to get familiar with how export making works.

I only threw the articles in because they helped me a lot when I was new, but I can take them out too if it's really that bad.

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>>187687760
mad/10

>>187688545
I understand your view pretty well, trust me. The problem is that you didn't tell the reader that he is going to get PES'd. Rewording it with that in mind instead of the "if you lose, people will shit on you or laugh at you" feel would be better.

I think having a 4cc discord for a board makes the 4cc a bigger deal than it is, assuming your board tolerates cup threads. I don't recall boards having like Skype groups two years back, probably not even a year back. It wasn't necessary then, I don't see it as necessary now. It elevates 4cc from a fun board event into a more personal, separated community. That's my point of view, anyway. I personally wouldn't want a discord server on my board, but /myboard/ doesn't get threads deleted the minute they're up.
And yes, having /aesco/ on speed dial for aesthetics and maybe keeping an eye on 4cc for announcements is good advice, though I manage with just 4ccg and the wiki for all my news and updates.
Invitationals themselves are fine, so are the PES articles, it's more about what should be said first and what the balance should be that I had an issue with when reading through it.

>>187689482
I tried a different format to try and get away from the tryhardy nature of the original and tried to put in some of these suggestions. Let's see if it's better like this.

>>187684335
>tfw been managing for years and still learnt a shit ton and also saw a lot that was wrong, good luck with the re-write
what happened to the good old days where everyone just took advice from DF?

>>187691267
It's a noble cause, but right now I'll go to bed. I'll go through it again in like 10 hours and if there's anything more I'd like to add I'll make sure to drop a (You).

>>187691535
It's hard to see problems in something you produce, so a lot of thanks for the suggestions. Have a good sleep anon.

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it is page 9

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page best new 4ccg meme of 2017

I missed last night matches.
What matches are worth watching?

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>page 1

>>187697470
/csa/-/trainwreck/
/seinfeld/-/ita/

>>187659996
/mu/league when?

>>187698227
never, its 4chan related

>>187698665
Gee anon, when will you learn to have fun?

>>187699413
Sorry, now I can have fun no-buzzword because Im tripfag

>>187699504
Where I circlejerk, no caboose pls

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>page upsidedown 9

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Sleepy thread is sleepy

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>page 9

> Multinationals in 2 days

What are the power rankings of the teams, guys?

>>187705423

Contenders
/csa/, /hvn/, /aus/, /rome/, /tsab/, /eire/, /latvia/

Good
/ro/, /kanto/, /eire/, /pak/, /ex-yu/, /ita/

Decent
/hnd/, /zar/, /mn/, /robonia/, /hoenn/

Bad
/poland/. /br/, /usa/, /iww/, /fr/

Pathetic
/ne/, /ussr/

>>187706145
>communists
>pathetic

Yep, that's accurate.

>>187706145
Who are the shameful tryhards?

>>187708430
me

>>187709506
Fuck off OGRO you're thankfully not participating.

>Fuji managing /fa/

>>187709916
I see nothing wrong here.

#bringback/fa/

/zar/ will cheeky kill a team.

>>187708430
No team really stands out. Group B is probably the tryhard group.

>>187709812
he would've been shameless

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>page 9

>>187706145

> /robonia/ > Decent
> /poland/ > Bad

I would switch them around DESU

>>187705423
/ex-yu/ to win

>>187705423
MAFIA is gonna rig /ita/ to victory

>>187706145
>rome
>good
Please leave

fucking MERCS I FUCKING HATE YOU ALL YOU'RE RUINING THE FUCKING CUP FUCK Y YOU MERCS STOP RUNING THE CUP DO YOU HATE FUN YOU FUCKING MERCS FUCKING MERCS EVERYBODY HATES RAGONFAG MERCS FUCK MERCS FUCK MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERCS

>>187668479
Managers were a mistake. Pregame formations at the start of the cup and /ag/ league tier eports should be it and managers should be more responsible for aesthetics, gamethreads and team changes. The cup would be better in every way

>>187717967
I agree.
But better get ready for multinats esports simulator, since tryhards want their arrow moving

>>187718114
inb4 somebody copies /lgbt/'s tactics

>>187718172
More like /u/ copied /u/ already

>>187718409
What's this?

>>187718409
what is this

>>187718709
boards shitposting speed levels

>>187718709
Post per minutes i believe

>>187718409
Posts per minute?

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>>187718409
>116
what the fuck? I've never been to /pol/ but holy shit is that board fast

>>187719190
>116 is fast
You sweet summer child.

>>187718409
>/b/ is not in first place
What a time to be alive!

>>187718409
When was this data collected?

>>187717285
t. Vercingetorix

Flowonthego more like Blowonthego lol
*unzips dick*
get down girl

>>187719190

Should have seen /b/ at their peak days.

>>187721013
Yeah peak /b/ was 250 posts an hour

>>187720753
>be a manager
>get your team on the probation list

>>187721183
oh you

>>187721703
minute, mb

>>187721975
Oh I thought it was intentional. You'd have been right.

>>187719749
D-don't bully me

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>>187723629
But you're just so bullyable anon

>>187718409
You have 30 seconds to explain why /fa/ and /x/ are still dead based on this image.

>>187724983
N-no y-you

>>187720140
Most likely recently since it has /bant/ on it

>>187725267
No interest

>>187726715
Where's your proof that the board would have no interest in playing in 2017?

>>187726715
The guy who wants to revive x did a poll and posted it in the board

>>187718409
imagine being /po/, /i/, or /gd/ and having the reddit gold board be faster than you

>>187725267
>/x/

Because when it was clear that Nox had died, it was too late for /x/ to find a replacement for Spring.

I can't imagine them not coming back for Autumn.

>>187727264
Wasn't there a guy who wanted to manage /x/?

>>187718409
So riddle me this, anons.
Why is it that the slowest boards like /po/, /i/, /gd/, /n/, /f/ have the best fan support for small boards and are never at risk of cull. But the slow but slightly faster boards like /c/, /p/ and /out/ are the ones that are most likely to die? Why is that one specific band of slow but not ultra slow the worst?

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OOPS MY SYSTEM CRASHED
BUT I HAD AN ANTIVIRUS

>>187727792

Here's why, Anon:

Those boards are actually pretty great. /out/ got culled only cause Jack never made threads on /out/. /po/ has few fans who are super into papercraft and are oldfags. Most of the older drawfagfs started on /i/, There's a good number of cup watchers that have /gd/ jobs and /f/ has a huge fanbase amongst the oldfags. So all and all it's not because there boards are somewhat "better", it's just because people who post there tend to be super dedicated in their hobbies or/and are oldfags.

>>187727408
Probably, but they either fucked off or managed a different board.

>>187727792
You can stay on the front page for 4-8 hours on some of those super slow boards. It's easier to get noticed if mods don't come after you. Look at /cm/'s revival. Their thread got deleted by mods after nearly 2 weeks.

>>187727408
He was active a few days ago

https://implyingrigged.info/w/index.php?title=/x/&action=history

/po/ still has a thread since april

>>>/po/552357

>>187728407
don't link to cup threads in /4ccg/

memegrass when

>>187728653
Why

>>187728673
Never
I don't want to get exposed :(

>>187727264
>>187727408
>>187728276

Yeah, /x/ is coming back.

>>187727408
He posted a poll in the x meta thread
>>187727792
Neither the board cared (/p/) nor the manager did an effort (/t/ and /adv/)

>>187729015
Please give skeletons a more prominent role.

>>187728794
it can lead to contamination of the threads

>>187729015
Please don't forget that interest from discord doesn't count towards reviving a team.
You should at least try making a cup thread at least once to see if people want the team back.

>>187729015
I hope you're better than our last manager

i will test for you, Nox never responded to me

>>187729331
hello retard /x/ has had threads

AGL2 Match Day 6 begins on the main channel. For all your hype building needs on specific matches see

>>187683942
>>187685803

liv

>>187729657
Proofs? There are no threads in the archive for the whole year.

>>187729946
He posted in the >designated meta thread

>>187730591
don't you need a >designated 4cc thread

>>187730591
And that's why I suggested to make a cup thread.
Four replies aren't really enough interest to revive a team, though it can also depend on how many replies did his poll get.

>>187730754
they get deleted on every board

>>187730845
If only. They are allowed in three boards, which are about three boards too many.

We need to ban HA

>>187731381
agreed, every player should be the same height

>>187731381
You need to stop making excuses for why you lost

>>187731381
make the player big

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>these loli dogpiles after every other goal

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Good news: the aesthetics for the Multinats are now on the MB2 exports wiki page

Bad news: /usagi/ is out in the group stage and I'm fucking pissed about it

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Fuck off, making a serious tactics for a meme league.

>>187732432
Chill out mate, this was even my first time tuning up for seeing an /ag/league match and I don't boot PES since the summer cup ended. If you can't handle some shitty jokes it's not my fault.

>>187732432
it's fine, usagi was no effort memes by keeping smol heights and removing all the cards and styles cuz I was too lazy to change anything else

>>187732432
What is that screencap supposed to show?

>>187732432
remove me from this screencap thanks

>>187732689
kys

>>187732859
/u/ manager making tactics for a team that he isn't even listed on.

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>>187732961
no one is annoyed at this not even the /usagi/ manager

>>187732961
Myuer didn't do shit for /ll/ though, he's just shitposting in the chat.

Should have given Syaro some coffee.

>>187732432
>bring this angery over reusing a export for a meme leeg

>>187733105
>>187732424

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>>187733479
yeah but that guy is a fucking autist so he's ignored

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usagi won in my heart

Why did Chino play for both teams?

>>187733707
why are they so smol

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>>187733707

>>187733580
Well maybe some of us would like to watch a fucking meme cup that's actually fun. If I wanted to see Myuer and Karth tryhard I can watch the elite cups. Like what the fuck is wrong with you people? Why do you have to take everything so goddamn seriously? I hope to god there are some teams that actually made an effort to follow the spirit of the rules in the knockouts and not just a bunch of tryhard HA shitters.

>>187734560
Why are you roping Myuer into it, and why are you bringing up HA?

Speaking of people convinced HA is the thing wrong with this cup, what's the result of the HA poll for Autumn?

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>>187734560
i mean usagi died that hard cos we just copied their moeshit export, heights and all, so they're pretty much nerfed to shit. if they advanced it would be pretty nuts.

>>187734928
Everyone intelligent - ban height abuse
A handful of retards - don't take my crutch away

>>187733105
I really want to unload all over Syaro's face

>>187735072
More like everyone delusional. HA isn't the problem, the managerial circlejerk just decided to blame it for all their problems and failures without bothering to provide any proofs that aren't them saying "I lost to a HA team merit pls ban".
If you would have bothered with comparing how a team performs with and without height abuse you would have seen just how little it matters if your striker is 189 cm or 205 cm.

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Why is Yama no Susume is not on /ll/?
Replace Tina, she is really out of place.

>>187734973
Saya a best

>>187735541
Wud u Aoi?

>>187735489
Exactly. If HA gets banned but nothing is done to centering targets then nothing will change in the tactics of the best placed teams. They'll just be less effective but still the best.

>>187735920
Yes.

t. Hinata

>>187735927
>centering targets
Sure, let's ban this, and possession, and wide and flp and whatever else people like to use, why the fuck not.

>>187735489
The funny thing is that JB was all "HA doesn't matter" before in Summer and now he's pushing to remove it, the hypocrite.

>>187736191
Why even ban HA then?

>>187736273
JB is doing everything with his merit powers to give /sp/ more chance

>>187717285
Hannibal pls go

>>187735489
I'd say just about literally half the top 4 (and all but 1 losing finalist) in PES17 cups being HA is a bit of a problem yes also anyone who doesn't run 199cm+ GK on a green brackets team is just making sure they'll be the next /vr/

>not banning HA
Why even have height limits then

>>187735489
We should really ban corner goals instead.

>>187737419
In one word: riggery

>>187737415
so half of the top fours are HA. that doesn't seem unreasonable at all. what fraction of teams overall are using HA?

If HA is so powerful, why don't everyone use it?

>>187737737
I think 11 were using it this summer. /lgbt/ /u/ /sci/ /his/ /vr/ /n/ /o/ /po/ /fit/ /s4s/ /sp/. At least 3 of the ones that didn't advance either got PES'd or got fucked over by a team guaranteed top of their group going hardcore meme mode. Also, you know, two of them made the goddamn final. Which has also happened in every other 17 cup besides /sp/erb owl (where the height abuser won), Winter (where the height abuser won), and Planet testcups (where literally nobody height abused). Not exactly easy to argue that kind of record innit

>>187737415
Isn't half being height abuse and half not being height abuse the kind of perfect balance we want?

>>187738287
so a third of the teams used it and half made the top four. that seems within the margin of error to me. let managers make their own decisions

>>187738976
But we ban managers for throwing, so we should ban anyone who doesn't use height. Prove me wrong.

You now remember Steve.

>>187739149
false slippery slope. since we ban for throwing should we also ban for setting +2? or for sending in a pastebin? choosing red heights is hardly the same as throwing

Banning height abuse will just give us 30 /toy/ and /g/ clones because longball and/or centring targets is the only way to have a consistently good offence in PES17.

Height abuse's OPness comes from better keepers and better corners which make even games swing in their favour

Solution? Ban centring and make height abuse teams have golds take their corners.

We could also switch to FIFA.

>>187739374
Anon, let me give you a lesson in memes. Everyone remembers Steve. Everyone thinks it's fucking hilarious that he doxxed himself and retired out of shame. Nobody thinks you constantly posting 'hey remember steve?' or 'i miss steve' or 'we need steve' is funny. You're taking something that was actually funny and in trying to make it a big /4ccg/ meme instead of accepting that people think it's funny, you're driving it in to the ground to the point where nobody is going to care and Steve's legacy as a braindead retard is going to be an afterthought.

>>187739548
Finally someone talking some sense here.

>>187739474
This guy gets it.

>>187739448
Yes.

>>187739675
But still do people unironically think we need Tony when not even his girlfriend needs Tony.

>>187739734
at least you are consistent. are you e-sports or #removemanagers?

>>187740652
Both. Remove managers but make every tactic the best it can be.

>>187740705
Nah, make every tactic the exact same.

>No adding of people or rules will make /my team/ good

Holy fuck we've got a game

>>187740705
>every thread consists of memeing on tryhard and shit managers
>wanting to remove said meme material
ded thread

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Mfw someone calls me a tryhard

>>187742037
stop forcing this shit meme

Free Heading card on every player when?

>>187742323
I agree let's make crossing even more broken

>>187737415
>>187738287
The amount of HA teams in the knockouts or finals means absolutely nothing. Even if we were to pretend that there is no RNG in PES, there are still plenty of other tactical factors influencing the results. If this is enough to convince you that HA is the culprit making the teams win (except the games they lost, that was obviously them being PES'd), you should start concerning yourself with the red kit abuse and the fact that 7 out of the previous 8 final cup games were won by the away team.

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How about every team running exactly same tactics, cards, positions etc. and let PES decide the winner.
Just like it does now, but with less arrogance

>>187742720
We should ban red kits on teams then. Red is a disgusting colour anyway.

>>187743154
And don't get me started on the fact that home teams have won 12% more matches than away teams did in PES 17. When are home teams going to get the stat nerfs they deserve? This is hardly fair!

>>187743984
All home teams should start with -1 goals to make it fair then.

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*walks to the Ro32 while dabbing*

>>187742512
If everyone is broken, it's normal :^)

just bring back pes 16

>>187745578
*runs p/s/c/f/6*

just fuck my shit up famalamadingaling

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Here's another fun fact. Out of the 32 teams in Summer, 19 of them had a gold CF captain, 13 had him in different positions, and sometimes only as a silver (nobody had a silver CF captain).
Only 8/19 gold CF teams advanced into the knockouts, against 8/13 of the various other positions. Nothing too much out of the ordinary so far, right?

Well, from the RO16, only the gold CF teams that played against other gold CF teams advanced further. /his/, /vr/, /wg/ and /jp/ all lost to teams with non-gold CF captains. That means out of the eight teams in the quarterfinals, only two had a gold CF captain, out from the original 19. Six out of the 13 teams in Summer managed to get a top 8 position.
When is /merit/ going to address this obviously broken aspect of PES? Why should I be punished for running a gold CF? The stats don't lie! Where is /rules/ when you really need them, and why isn't JB already making a poll to make the gold CF captain position mandatory?

>>187746772
>why isn't JB already making a poll to make the gold CF captain position mandatory?
Cause it wouldn't benefit /sp/.

>>187719190
/pol/ threads can live and die in a matter of 3 hours. It's a fast board with a shitload of users

>>187727975
If /g/ gets a new manager, I want protogent as a defender.

>>187718409

sheeit, I didn't realize /int/ was that fast. I thought it was a midmarket team, not a big market team.

No one outside of /int/ cares or talks about it and yet its faster than /a/ and /sp/

>>187727792
The difference is that they have fans. /out/ and /c/ have them but never even bothered to have threads. Thankfully, /c/ has had a recent but won't have a manager until 2018 I believe. Same goes for /out/. Small boards aren't hard to get a team going. It's making sure that your fanbase sticks and cares. /gd/ has fans because kerning and helvetica are electric players, and they've been to the round of 16 quite often.

>>187747912
/c/ is on probation not culled so they can have a manager this autumn

>>187729015
Well then, let's hope for some spooks and shit. I want them to win autumn just for the spooky babby cup trophy.

>>187748063
Same with /w/, right?

>>187748594
yup and /y/

Remove boring teams

>>187748758
Guess we should remove /sp/ and /a/ because they're not that thrilling.

>>187749153
Sure

>>187749153
Don't see why this would be so bad. That's at least one cancerous fanbase gone.

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>Russians

DTROIT ON THE MIC. Welcome to the stream guys. Let me know if it's lagging. Ana Mack coming over to commentate. "'troit ahh well ysee uhhh yknow well aaand thats what im saying 'troit yeah nice". Thanks for the great commentary Mack, see you next week. Shoutout to our sponsors Smashcast. Make sure you turn off your adblock cos they're broke...HAHA GUYS NO I'M NOT MUTED. LOL THE CHAT ARE TOO FUNNY HAHA. The stream isnt lagging. Get better internet you poverty ass bitch and dont blame me for your lag....Make sure you put your pastebin on the page don't PM me I don't read that shit. SHOUTOUT TO ALL THE MODS POSTING FUNNY SHIT IN CHAT...HAHA KASUNAGI IN THE HOUSE SAY HI....YOOOO ITS FUCKING RIGGED GOD DAMN IT

>>187749782
There are no good russian characters in amine/manga, fact.

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>>187750339
Wrong.

>>187750414
worst idol kys

>>187750490
>worst idol
>anyone but nico

>>187750534
>any LL
>worst

>>187750314
PICKLE DTROIIIIIIIIT

>>187750727
>idolshit
>not worst by default

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Is she a good character?

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>page 9

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Me and my co-manager on our summer vacations.
Also
>page 9

>>187753272
Fuck off aoba, nene belongs to ahagon.

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>>187752138
How does one manage to fuck up a character so badly?

>>187753562
rude

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>>187753683
I don't care.

>>187753928
Those rubbing wrists are giving me OCD.

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>>187754178
If that's bothering you then you already have OCD, anon.

>>187754312
lewd
stop

>>187754312
This anime is so deep.

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>>187754419
We both know that you don't mean that.

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/v/ for autumn?

>>187754517
tsukihi is not for lewd

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>page 9

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>page 9

>>187691830
That version is much better, indeed. It has all the crucial information, leaves out the more opinionated stuff, though some tips&tricks or a general "guide to gitting gud" wouldn't hurt anything. Not in the full scale the original version had it, but maybe a link to one of the off-site guides or at least our own tactical page or something. Or maybe expand a bit on the "watch older games and think of the how and the why" part, that can actually be really useful.

Like the tactical part for example, you don't need two paragraphs for midfielder cards, and I don't think the tactical depth of PES even warrants that. Saying "Passing cards are a popular choice for all midfielders, with Crossing or LRDrive for the more offensive or Track Back for the more defensive midfielders also being a common pick" is imo much better than the paragraph in the original article. The "learn from how other teams work" applies more than "learn from what this article tells you is a good choice", if you get what I mean.

Overall yeah basically all the issues I had with the article I don't have anymore, though perhaps it's a bit too brief now, I think you went needlessly too far with the editing out. One thing it could use is some formatting, and more importantly, links. The wiki can be a bit confusing to navigate and I've been using it for years. When talking about the AATF, link it. When talking about memevitationals, link the upcoming invitational page, etc., it doesn't even have to be an up-to-date link, could be just the general PES 17 page, but showing people where to look for things saves them some time, especially when the layout isn't the most intuitive one.

>>187686641
>Also, what card is "Long Range Pass"?
Might actually be Low Lofted Pass. Long Range Drive isn't a passing card (but still a goddamn good card for any medal midfielder or SEVENTY)

You can kiss your old unenlightened self goodbye because reading New Manager Advice, will change your life.

Managing is basically a giant multi-layered puzzle which makes any sort of concrete discussion of it impossible. And to be honest, it’s probably best to go into it completely blind.

Nothing in PES is what it seems at first glance as it mixes suspense and horror with complex philosophical truths to deliver one of the most profound works of art in the history of our race. And it somehow also manages to be continuously fun regardless if it’s discussing benulties, solving height abuse, or having a dog rape a girl.

Don’t be scared away by the brief first version of New Manager Advice as it was intentionally written to be bad to prove a point later. The real story only starts from version 2, though it’s only in fetus (Babby Cup Qualifiers) where PES finally goes all out.

New Manager Advice follows a bunch of managers who are trying to make sense of the weird world around them which seems to be kind of off… though it’s hard to pinpoint how exactly. The funny thing is, the details that offset each of their surroundings are different despite all of them living at the same place and interacting with each other. It’s as though the entire world changes every time you switch the protagonist.

PES is a detective where answers to the mysteries lie not as much in the scorelines as philosophical ideas you discover as you go through testing. …Some of which might actually help you understand a few mysteries in your own actual life.

/ag/ League knockouts formations (so far)
/4ccg/: 4-2-1-3
/redditco/: 4-4-fackin'-2
/redditpol/: 4-2-1-3
/csa/: 5-2-1-2
/ita/: 3-3-2-2
/Seinfeld/: 4-2-2-2
/ll/: 4-2-2-2
/math/: 4-1-1-4
/mtg/: 3-4-1-2
/dg/: 4-3-1-2
/creepy/: 3-2-2-3
/trans/: 4-2-1-3
/bnha/: 3-1-3-3
/lwa/: 4-2-1-3
/agdg/: 4-1-3-2
/afl/: zona memesta
/edge/: 4-1-3-2
/rw/ (not confirmed but likely): >gold defender
/emg/: 2-6-2
/l/: 3-2-3-2
/虹裏jp/: 4-2-1-3/4-3-1-2
/moeshit/: 4-2-1-3
/smtg/ (not confirmed but likely): 4-3-1-2
/redditco/, /redditpol/, /math/, /edge/, /rw/, /emg/, /l/, and /smtg/ are all height abuse

Match of the game?

>>187758884
Get a broken fuckin' arm, cunt

>>187759136
/agdg/-/afl/

Matches of the day?

You can kiss your old unenlightened self goodbye because reading my ass will change your life.

My ass is basically a giant multi-layered puzzle which makes any sort of concrete discussion of it impossible. And to be honest, it’s probably best to go into it completely blind.

Nothing in my ass is what it seems at first glance as it mixes suspense and horror with complex philosophical truths to deliver one of the most profound works of art in the history of our race. And it somehow also manages to be continuously fun regardless if it’s discussing ass, solving ass, or having a dog rape my ass.

Don’t be scared away by the brief first version of my ass as it was intentionally designed to be bad to prove a point later. The real ass only starts from version 2, though it’s only in my ass where my ass finally goes all out.

My ass follows a bunch of asses who are trying to make sense of the weird world around them which seems to be kind of off… though it’s hard to pinpoint how exactly. The funny thing is, the details that offset each of their surroundings are different despite all of them living at the same place and interacting with each other. It’s as though the entire world changes every time you switch the ass.

My ass is a detective where answers to the mysteries lie not as much in the ass as philosophical ideas you discover as you go through my ass…Some of which might actually help you understand a few mysteries in your own actual life.

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>>187759493

>>187759778
VGL return when?

>>187758929
>/rw/ (not confirmed but likely): >gold defender
You're about to be heavily incorrect.

>>187759493
I personally separate my life to pre-your Ass and post-your Ass periods

>>187759182
Group G, you need both matches for the full experience.

>>187759152
Local get ready for a broken fucking arm not so happy after losing to Bangladesh.

>>187759884
Next week

>>187758929
Faces:
/4ccg/
/seinfeld/
/creepy/
/trans/
/bnha/
/lwa/
/agdg/
/afl/
/emg/

Midcards:
/csa/
/ita/
/math/
/dg/
/rw/
/wawajp/
/smtg/

Heels:
/redditcopol/
/ll/
/mtg/
/edge/
/l/
/moeshit/

>>187762205
You are wrong.

>>187762649
Wow someone on /4ccg/ is wrong stop the presses

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>>187762205
>/4ccg/
>the most cancerous general in the history of /vg/
>Face

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Multinational Bowl 2 Wallpaper

If I screwed something up just yell at me and I'll fix it.

>>187763558
I want to fug Virgin Mary

>>187763558
Why isn't Nanoha the /tsab/ rep?

>>187763936
Because she's actually pretty low in the TSAB chain of command.

https://youtu.be/JfgVPIrutvw

>>187763558
who /hvn/ here?

>>187763558
Replace Steve Irwin with Don Bradman.

>>187763558
I'll give you something for /ro/, hol up a second.

>>187763558
Imo you should use the national flags for teams that went with coat of arms. Just looks more aesthetic.

>>187763558

Beautiful. HYP

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>>187763558
Use this for /ro/, Hashtag of Friendship and Tolerance is the captain.

>>187762205
Who will beat Karth?

>>187762205
You knew that there's always one kid who is a smarty pant and all serious and stuff in class? That's you

>>187767593
ez 4 /ll/

>>187767593
idgaf as long as the tryhard team that beats him dies the following round. fuck tryhards, i want memes.

>>187768223
There's no round after the finals brah

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>/naruto/ got progressively worse

Vidya and procrastination now, wallpaper fixes later.

>>187767385
i'll make this work

>>187765685
post a pic of Don and I'll do it

>>187770103
Just like my chinese cartoons.

>>187684335
i would have added a link to the card page list aswell, i made sure it got remade for 17, but since its going to be 18 soon its all going to be changed anyway

>>187718409
oh wow, pol is really a bigger market than /b/ now, mostly /trump/ based id guess

>>187718409
>trash is a bigger market than most boards now

>>187770780
4chan traffic has more than doubled in the past 3 years due to phone users, its not usprising

>>187718409
/bant/, /qst/ and /aco/ when?

>>187770780
/b/ is dying because it's now just porn dumps

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>>187770312

Alright /4ccg/,

Field a starting 11 of only managers.

hard mode: no JB

>>187772385
holy fuck no