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/ourguy/

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I love my beautiful wife Unica!

DISCORD BOYS

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Dragon will be T1, right?

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>>187619819
a dragon meta is a healthy meta

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>>187620093
Hath, i wont alow it

>>187620072
Put the name back the fuck on!

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>>187619819
Reminder to liquefy before maintenance all your copies of the cards nerfed last month: Tove; Baphomet; Spawn of the Abyss; Goblin Leader; Grimnir, War Cyclone; Ouroboros; and Princess Snow White.
After maintenance the liquefy value will return to normal.

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show me you're meme decks /svg/

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>decks aren't allowed to have win-cons
Is this really what you shadowbabs believe?

>>187620493
>decks aren't allowed to have win-cons
>no one complains about seraph
>no one complains about dragon ramping
>only a handful of retards complain about d-shift and aegis
>but somehow everyone hates wincons
fuck off

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>>187620290

>>187620290
>meme
>still runs 2 aegis and dark jeanne

Is wallet rune kill?

>>187620715
>wants to play cute girls
>chooses sword
tip top kek

>>187620876
Fuck you. Name me a card that's cuter than Bladed Hedgehog.

Why the fuck is the grind for masters so emphasized?
Why can't I just do ranked normally with my meme decks?

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Fucking disgusting
>ice golem
Was literally useless to stop this.

>>187620290
If you actually want to meme, play laelia over ageis.

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>>187620290
I like to think it'd work with 3 stratagems but I don't want to waste vials on them

>>187620651
>spawn has been completely forgotten
Sad. Eachtar deserved his treatment instead.

>>187620968
That one is especially cuter when animated, the chewing effect it makes is cute as fuck.

>>187620715
>no alice
>no mirror
You might as well go all the way.

>>187621318
Alice ain't cute. I'd rather Luminous Mage over her.

>was able to grind 6 arena tickets yesterday
>too lazy spend the last 3 today

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>>187621028
>Albert next turn
>ice golem into levi literally useless again
4 times in a row now. I said Cygames should be careful with this ambush shit.
>Haven, Shadow, Dragon too slow
>Bats is coinflip vs this
>dirt burn get out unged
I don't know how to beat these GMs fuckers playing this tournament trash.

>>187620493
Win conditions are fine, plenty of great games have hard wincons

What wincons should be: medium-long buildup which you opponent can predict and counter, multiple cards involved to pull off the necessary combination. Seraph is an example of a well-designed wincon.

What they actually are: A single thoughtless card that immediately wins the game, or enables a win next turn with no chance to counter it. Cannot be countered by 99% of decks, usually gives the match an arbitrary timer in which you have to win before they use it to win the game outright because there is no other counterplay. Aegis and Dshift are examples of bad wincon design. I'd say Eachtar too but his actual winning ability relies on keeping a board for a full turn.

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>>187621056
>altered fate

>>187621675
>I'd say Eachtar too but his actual winning ability relies on keeping a board for a full turn.
Against crafts that have no reliable board clear, this is easy to do.

>>187621646
Stop encouraging discord to play that

>>187621974
just 2 for 1 every turn bro

>Shitter beats me in take 2 because he had Olivia

Fun game mode. These 70 take 2 tickets are never going to be used at this rate. How fucking hard is it to ban these absurdly swingy cards from the game mode? They're auto win.

>>187621781
Like I said I'd replace those with stratagem

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momi momi

>>187620651
>no one complains about dragon ramping

>>187622093
>ban everyone wincon in T2
>now it just comes down to who exhaust their hands first
Yeah, I'd rather have wincons.

Should I play Dirt Rune?

>>187622093
in T2 enhanced grimnir is bullshit too

>>187622201
omg its here
dont dont fuck off to blood

>>187622237
every*
Everytime

>>187622093
I have 10 tickets left, started out with 30+. Still haven't pulled any abyss or snow whites from the free packs though but I got other legendaries.

>>187622228
>crying hscucks opinions matter

>>187622258
why not

>>187622258
I am trying Daria again because dirt doesn't work as you can see above. What do you think?

>>187622370
Are you that anon from the other day? Glad you're doing ok on burning the tickets.

>>187622258
only if you like bricking

>Neutral was a mistake

lol should I just liquify Alice at this point?

>>187622093
Just retire immediately and at least convert them to packs now that you get expansion packs.

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SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT!

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>they nerf Each right after you make a decent mid range deck yesterday to do dailies
Good thing I've graduated from shadownigger to swordfaggot so now theres no turning back unless KMR gives Luna something even more broken.

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>>187620715
>animated momo playset
I'm jelly. Still don't have a single one.

>>187622593
>31 bkb
>i only unpacked a bunch of haunted mansions
i fucking hate this game sometimes

>>187622504
Yea, it's been slow and really boring, but all these rupies mang.

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>>187622835
Godspeed

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>>187619934

pls

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>>187622593
SCARLET
C
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L
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>>187623013
http://sv.bagoum.com/db/3tH

>>18762266
>jumped to Sword bandwagon broken shit
You're the cancer killing this game. I hope Sword get nerfed next too because of you pepe 3.0 tards.

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>>187623013

>>187623125
Get rekted by ambush

>>187623238
>rekted
go back

>ambush faggot tries to outaggro me completely ignoring my board
>collect my free win
nice game shadowbabs

>>187622954
Thanks anon, I'll make it happen!
>all these extra vials from cards i already have

>>187622669
>nerf Each right after you make a decent mid range deck
lmao you had 2 expansions to build it. and why are you complaining? just collect the dust you invested on eachtar if it underperforms or jsut kill yourself

>>187623238
>tribunal
>rekt by ambush
it's as anti-ambush as an aggressive deck gets

>>187623784
>Tribunal
>Doing anything against 5 ambushed ninjas

>>187623984
>sword having that board
you already lost

>>187623984
>5 ambushed ninjas
by that point you should have an even bigger board

>>187623984
>not developing a board at the same rate (if not faster) than the swordfag
lol, do you even play this game?

Where my Selewyn leader boys at?

>>187620250
>Reminder to liquefy before maintenance all your copies of the cards nerfed last month: Tove; Baphomet; Spawn of the Abyss; Goblin Leader; Grimnir, War Cyclone; Ouroboros; and Princess Snow White.
>After maintenance the liquefy value will return to normal.
They don't say that anywhere in the August nerf post. I think it's fine for now.

https://shadowverse.com/news/?announce_id=364

>Sibyl is literally a better radiance angel because muh rarity
Why is this allowed?

>>187624943
KOUSAN SHIYOU

>>187624972
Yeah, I found this weird too. If they don't revert those I'll be buying WD packs instead of hoarding.

>>187624972
I blew my 48 Take 2 packs and quit them instantly to get some vial value out of those nerfs. I got a Snow White and some Baphomets, I unpacked a ton of RoB packs (20 out of the 48 tickets). Shit sucks but I got my 3rd Imperial Dragoon, time to meme it up with disco.

>>187624975
>MtG pros
This game has been a lie since the beginning.

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>>187625046
We're gonna make it bro

>>187625553
>Selwyn

>>187625553
>rank cropped
hahahahahahaaaa

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Fuck, what do?
I really don't want to play 5 matches but I also don't want to play forest.

>>187625651
Rank is in the filename :^)

What's the definition of broken? Fitting in every deck when it has nothing to do with it?

>go on a winstreak
>suddenly start bricking and my opponent has the perfect curve/answers

hmm

>>187625654
>hurr 5 matches is a pain
change game nigger

>>187625809
No, WINNING 5 matches is a pain.

Why did they make GM such a chore?

Seriously, how can you guys live with Alice+Falice curve, Blood and Ambush basically being the only kind of decks playing played? This is so cancerous, they get their curve unironically 100% of the time. It's absurd. Aggro and Kys Blood looks less bullshit compared to fucking Neutral Rune and Sword at this point.

>>187625891
get good or quit crying

>>187625891
Changing game is still a good option

>>187626023
>>187626073
>implying anyone here actually place the game

>>187626073
This.

>he doesn't play duel links, ygopro and tinder when SV gets boring

>>187626158
as much as you like to complain about us, we play the game more than this gay general LMAO
t. discord

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Play forest.

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15567

Need a quick concede, thanks!

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what if little soulsquisher's necromancy effect repeated on evolution?

>>187626324
>please play forest so i can winstreak

>>187626482
>winstreaks
>not being master already

>>187620290
it's not a meme if you run fucking aegis

>>187626379

Thank you Eris!

>>187626534
you can still winstreak in masters dummy

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I thanks god for the deserved nerf.
No more I win card.

>>187626439
I don't even care about Shadow anymore. This neutral and ninja shit is 10000% worse.

>>187626534
>winstreaks
>master
>implying they're even related
Not that guy but do you even engrish?

>>187626565
but svg told me hes a meme turn 9 do nothing

>>187626657
Oh you mean the actual number of consecutive victories instead of the pre master bonus? Yeah you're right I'm retarded sorry please don't get mad at me.

>>187626439
Nothing.
Having 2 evolved followers at the same time is a rather rare occurence.

>>187626746
He literally is a t9 do nothing.

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>>187625654
>there are people still wasting their lives not doing solo missions
LMAOING at your life

>>187625631
>he preffers arisa squeaky, insuferable voice over suave and soothing selwyn's voice
shit taste

>play against rune
>Falise
>Falise
>ok, THIS time he surely can't have another one
>nope, Falise.
Maybe this cunt really does deserve a nerf.

>>187626816
He is a :
You are already behind. I finish you at turn 10 card

>>187626897
Cygames is slowly starting to realize easy as fuck enhance effects are a balance mistake.

>>187626925
>slower wincon than seraph, albert, ungabats, dshift, midshadow, roach or ramp storm dragon

falise is literally a worse emeralda and you dont see people complain about her

>>187627282
Emeralde can't clear opponents biggest guy and go face on turn 5 while also leaving a 4/7 body.

Erika is a cute lesbian.

>>187626876
Arisa has a shota voice in her story.

>>187627282
I wouldn't say she is a worse emeralda. Evolving Falise on T5 to hit face is pretty good. She got a big booty so its not easy to get rid of her.

What is the best deck to do fun wizard shit?

Why didn't they nerf death's breath instead of eachtar, considering death's breath is literally cancer and enables eachtar to win the game for you?

>>187627440
falise cant kill bahamut/polyphonic roar/etc

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>cygames stopped printing "if at least x cards were played turn" cards
Does that mean they care about forest?

>>187627557
>nerfing standard cards
They will always nerf the newer cards.

>>187627562
Why can Emeralda hit amulets even?

>>187627557
DB is literally just a tech

>>187627562
Yeah, Falise kills you before you can drop those.

>>187627659
??????

>>187627672
just soul squasher bro
>>187627607
yeah instead you get good cards like fairy dragon

>>187627557
A lot of people have dropped DB

>>187627734
if you didn't keep up with the meta these last weeks just go look at some lists

>>187627480
lesbos can't be cute dummy

>>187626897
Funny shit is, Falice's nerf will do absolutely nothing. Everyone already learned to play her on turn 5, 4/6 body which doesn't even need evolve in curve because you already wasted all your good resources clearing the early shit, besides they can just drop her and evolve a surviving neutral follower and go face just to make sure you don't trade both. >Falice 5pp 4/6 X removal storm on evolve
>BKB 5pp fanfare cudgel effect
This is the definition of powercreep, BKB is just balanced when set side by side with her. What's Albert?

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>>187627827
>A card as good as DB is just a tech, which means shadow has even better cards to play in its place
I wish I didn't pick this game up anymore, especially since my fun meme decks will never be good

>>187627562
Butthurt dragonfag detected

>>187628073
>my fun meme decks will never be good
if they got to be good they would become cancer incarnate since cykikes can't balance for shit

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>make a big boy deck
>durandal memes
bleh

>>187628484
>MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>187628484
kill yourself

>>187628559
It's not momposting. I was just commenting on how I immediately encountered an answer deck to my big neutral dick deck despite not seeing Csword in 2 months.

>>187628651
>my big neutral dick
>my
>Neutral Rune, the highest winrate deck that is even getting nerfed
Ebin.

>>187628423
You telling me Rose Queen and Silver Bolt could be cancer?
>>187628651
>implying cygames doesn't match you against counterpicks no matter what deck you run

>talk about game
>it's momposting
>talk about cards
>falseflag discorders shitpost craftwars
>post any card images, get called xnigger or discord even if it's not vampy or luna
>discuss anything at all, get called retarded
What is there even left of this general if everything is ridiculed and shitposted to death? Most OC creators even left.

>>187628651
That isn't an answer you fucking entitled bandwagoner fucker.

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>>187628839
Stop posting.
Keep lurking or just leave.

>>187628839
Kill yourself kid. You're piloting the number 1 broken deck right now. Fuck off back to your circlejerk newfag.

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>>187628782
I made a neutral deck with owl and a bunch of draw cards inspired in the standard ranked thing, but this is all focused on buffs instead of whatever the most popular variant is. My concept focuses around buffing them with amulets and fanfares or evos.

>>187628841
You you're right. 3 cyclones later and the draw engine still outlasted him.

Its good to see sword alive again

>>187628068
BKB is a bronze card.

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>discord is mad because their precious eachtar is getting nerfed
Amazing.

Friendly reminder to not take the bait.

>>187629063
Post the list. None of what you posted so far makes it look even remotely different from a standard NRune list.

remember to embrace the dragonhood bros

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>>187629184
>

>>187629063
Stop. No one here is retarded like you. We know what's homebrew and what's not. Saha neutral Rune runs that 2pp shit, it's just a deck variation. The amulet meme is also old as fuck.

>>187629286
It's nothing special. I made it for my rune daily after rerolling the win 6 ranked by literally just looking up the keywords "draw", "neutral" and some handpicked fillers. I'll post it once I'm done with this match vs dragon.

>>187629382
>discordshitter replying to a namecancer
Not even remotely surprised.

>>187629154
Oh, really? I guess Albert is bronze as well.

>>187629395
>We
discord, please go and stay go

>>187629382
wat

>>187629561
We anons, the generals posters, discordshitter.

>>187629653
discord is antishadow
name cancer

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>>187629728
That sounds like something a shadow false flagger would say.

>>187629476
Fiitting the spicy amulet meme in any WD neutral deck doesn't make it original.

>>187629890
That's fine. I'm having fun with this deck and almost done with my daily.

Neutral Rune is the new shadowniggers.
Ambush is the new bloodniggers.

>>187630223
>Rune
>ever being a dindu
Didn't happen Daria, won't happen with Falise.

>>187626875
>solo missions
Enjoy your 20 pax ;^)

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>>187630006
1 of 2.

>>187630370
Falice isn't Oz. This bitch is alone in the dark.

Crap, got the Private Match quest again

60653

I hate bugging people for help with this.

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>>187630508
2 of 2

Apparently I have no answers to t6 bahamut. I should have added a DoD but I wanted it to be mostly zoo.

So I haven't played in a while, did the previous nerfs kill Snow White? Not seeing her listed anymore in the tiered decks.

>>187630602
Thank you BB3, sorry to have bothered you with this.

>>187630654
She is still the best Haven 2 drop follower.

>>187630623
its fucking shit
dont ever mompost on this general

Why do some people concede? Are there bot in sv?

Should i vial Eachtar?

Remember the guy who crafted 3 animated eachtars?

>>187630963
But someone asked me to show my deck.

>posting a deck is momposting

Um ok?

>>187630968
They don't want to play a matchup that was lost the moment they queued in.
What deck do you play?

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>>187631035
no regrets

>>187631101
New player swordcraft.

>>187630963
Being aggressive for no reason like that is unhealthy for this general.

>>187631070
>>187628484

>>187630508
>>187630623
You're just vomiting board with that. Sorry friend but those aren't exceptional or deck-main-game changing.

>>187631495
I never claimed it was. I don't understand why everyone is so upset when all I did was post 1 img.

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UNTIL TOMORROW I'LL DAAAAANCE

>>187631312
t. shitposting retard

How many Spawn should I keep if I want to play Cblood, 2 or 3?

>>187631687
the safest thing you can do is sell all and craft them back when cblood lists settle on the new meta

>>187631687
1 or 2 is enough to finish games. Don't add 3.

>need 5 wins for dailies
>struggle for 1.5 hours with some random midrange decks
>barely get 2 wins
>say fuck it and make a bat deck without Caraboose
>done within 5 minutes
This game is nothing but unga now.

>>187631620
They really need to print a sword card that redirects leader damage taken to it.
Something like Mask of Black Death but a follower that requires commander/officer synergy.

>Homecoming nerf not reverted

>>187631613
Because people want you to learn how to play this game and hopefully stop being a faggot.

>>187631846
But why wait when I can play Cblood now.
>>187631873
Alright but if I want to meme it with azazel, is it better to have a 3 or 2?

>>187632131
You mean like a Ward?

>>187632236
>Because people want you to learn how to play this game and hopefully stop being a faggot.
I'm already master though. I could be GM if I put on the time but I only managed 5-7k from dailies every month.

>>187632348
RIP anon
your sacrifice wont be forgotten

>>187632348
For a second I thought she was riding an alligator.

Can we agree Falise nerf is really unjustified?

>>187632282
>But why wait when I can play Cblood now.
why the fuck would you make a deck for a meta that's dying in a few hours

>>187632565
>highest winrate deck
Kill yourself, runetumor.

>>187632565
I wouldn't call it completely unjustified. They basically decided to nerf her because of the deck's overall performance even though there's more OP cards out there.

>>187632565
>implying the falise nerf will change anything
Lmao

Do you think blood is dead now for good?

>>187632565
It wasn't that falise was a problematic card herself, they needed to bring down the overall performance of neutral rune and targeting an archetype staple is the most clean way to go about it.

>>187632579
I already have 3 spawn and pulled a 4th today. I also have most of the important Cblood cards already.

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>>187632643
As you can see here, this shitposter is acting impulsively and very angrily towards a player for making a game-related and discussion igniting question. By shitposting in this manner, the quality of the thread is diluted whereas discussion should be embraced as opposed to dismissed.

>>187632565
>according to a random C2 rank anon, a deck with 55% winrate doesn't deserve a nerf
>according to Cygames, a deck with 55% winrate deserves a nerf
hmmm

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Can we seriously get a non-shit effect on my waifu? Holy fucking shit her art and attack animation are so baller, but she's way too fucking slow. She's only in bat blood in the place of some late game storm because it's an op craft anyway and people want her to be good so badly.

>namecancer talking about the quality of the general
epic

>>187632992
At least she's playable. That more than most get.

>>187632849
Vengeance Blood can just go back to focusing more on Airjammer instead of x3 BKB and x3 Scarlet. It was a strong deck before they existed. They still have Emeralda. Aggro Blood didn't rely on BKB. Scarlet was one of their strongest tempo plays, but the deck can still function fine without her.

>>187632896
again, my advice is to sell all of them (bar 1 since you're ready to go at this point), then after the maint has hit test the deck and if you see that you need another craft back another, etc etc until you reach a good number for the post nerf meta

>>187632390
Yea but for burn damage. Wards are good but can't stop Razory Claw spam.

>>187632428
Rank doesn't matter. You're just playing meta 0 decks for every expansion instead of trying to improve gaming experience, you're a cancer.

Why no Squasher nerf? Shadow performing better than Blood but only 1 card is """""nerfed"""".

>>187632936
You are causing way more shitposting than any anon. Kill yourself

>>187632565
Are you a runetumor or bandwagon fag?
Regardless, KYS.

>>187633261
That is your own, emotion and frustration induced opinion. Your reading comprehension seems lacking as I've already mentioned this is a deck made for completing a quest. Since you IQ is insufficient for me to bother giving you more of my time, I will stop replying to you. Please go back to readit or discord, where you belong.

>>187633272
>nerfed
>still provides lethal on any board full of garbage
this nerf is a joke and only matters when killing a bahamut.

>retards in this thread and in cygames actually think 7pp imp lancer deserves a nerf

Hmmm

>>187620651
>>no one complains about dragon ramping
Fuck off Rowen.

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>>187633272
Rune is performing better than blood, so why only 1 card is nerfed?
>shadow
>performing better than the deck that uses BKB and scarlet
Note that not all kys decks use those, thus they are worse.

>tfw they're going to stop printing broken shit right as it was Forest's turn
I miss pre TotG

>>187633287
Just because the adversary and his followers don't have a name doesn't mean they don't shitpost. I have observed them their behavior and have concluded they are the reason this thread is in the top 3 worst /vg/ generals.

>>187633524
>bleh
Kiddo please. Not a single argument can help you after typing this.

>Veight's line when entering the battlefield is different if you already have Vania in play
What? I noticed this only now?!

>>187633671
That's called damage control, discord shitposter squad. You are losing.

>>187633660
Nope, it's actually Haven's turn.
It hasn't really been cancer since DE.
We had the full rotation of Forest/Sword/Rune in RoB into Shadow/Dragon/Blood in ToG into pretty much the same in WD.

>>187633651
>aggro
>aggro
>"Midrange"
>aggro
NICE META

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>>187632992
People still believe the 6pp magic missile meme

>>187633671
>Just because the adversary and his followers don't have a name doesn't mean they don't shitpost.
Yeah they shitpost but not as much as you. At least they aren't using a name.

>they are the reason this thread is in the top 3 worst /vg/ generals.
You are a big reason for that as well. Do us all a favour and take off the name. You are always saying you want to talk about Shadowverse but you actions tells us a completely different story.

>>187633747
Yeah, some cards has interactions like that. For example our boy Grimnir reacts to Odin when he comes to play.

>>187633961
I'd be fine with a Haven meta. I'd be fine with any meta that Forest isn't literal garbage.

>it's another perfect seraph 8 turn episode

welp, in that case is time to use odin one more time you fucking cancer shitheads )))

>>187634135
>still trying to reason with him
Give it up already. Just ignore him. He doesn't care about this general and he doesn'T want to talk about shadowverse.

>>187634287
Emeralda now banish amulets but loses its storm effect and her pp is reduced to 6. Thank you.

>>187634156
Wow, super cool.

>>187634490

you know what? i wouldn't mind if she worked that way

>>187634287
I wonder if he wins more than he loses with that deck. Seraph isn't the kind of deck to do that well vs pure unga decks like sword or bats or midrange because you need to keep a lot of cards in hand for the t9 win and sacrifice tempo for stuff like prism when you don't draw it.

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I'm rank 8856 right now, will that be enough for top 10k? I'm fucking sick of gofirstverse god damn

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Gonna hit the bed so that I'm fully awoke when the famitsu leaks drop tomorrow. G'night, /svg/.

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>1st animated lego
>its Zeus

so will blood get a okay 4 drop in the next expac

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Blood or Haven?

>>187637618
forest

Is Vampy-chan still dead forever

>>187637996
This better not be porn.

>>187637996
delet this

>>187638051
Vampyres tend to be undead.

>>187637996
""""holy""""" water
now everything makes sense

>removing a pixiv link
literally wat

>still dead
haha oh wow I guess this happens when you take 5 months to nerf gamebreaking cards

>>187638565
tsukomeme

>>187638640
We have a namefag and 1 or 2 discord anons who dedicate their entire fucking free time to shitting up this general. That probably plays a huge part in the current state of this general.

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>>187638840
this

>filtering
you have to go back sweety

@187639018
t. autism chan

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If they don't announce Spinaria for next expac I might finally stop putting off strangling myself.

>>187638840
>>187638943
maybe if someone told kimura that self-inserting in his card game would be a bad idea this place and game would be better. too bad, enjoy your shiteating

>fight to secure a victory
>dude only has 2 cards in hand and no board clears
>proceeds to topdeck me 4-5 turns in a row and win
This isn't podracing.
>>187638578
>recently
It's been like this for a few months now. Cropped porn and even non-nude art deleted, YouTube threads not being deleted on /v/ despite being against global rules, people getting banned for just making a post that's not against the rules at all etc.

SJW mods are back from GG, and by back, I mean they never left and just stayed in the dark until it would blow over.

>>187636759
>it's a good card
What's wrong?

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Nerf Yurius

>>187640062
>>187640607
Nobody cares reddit. Go circlejerk else where.

>decide to try out rune in t2 for a change
>it's an utter brickfest of cards from different archetypes that don't work together at all
Never again.

>>187636759
>>187640615
Why can't Forest run 3x Zeus and 3x Jungles?

>brick 4 times in a row
fuck

>>187642152
Buy Crystals

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>try out Dork Alice PTP in unranked
>actually winning against blood and pre-nerf Eachtar

OK, let's settle this for once.

ARE THESE NERFS GOOD OR BAD?

>>187642515
Nerfs are never bad. The question is if they are enough or not, what /svg/ is always terrible at predicting.

>>187642515
Neutral Rune is still alive, Kys Blood still stands, Shadow is gonna go full unga. Maybe these nerfs will make it worse.

>>187642640
>Killing win-conditions left and right
>Not bad

Enjoy your 20 turns snoozefest, then! >:^)

>>187642846
t. Tanaka-san

>>187642515
They nerfed Eachtar. I'm happy.

>>187641602
because forest has one of the worst early games of all the classes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mb3cHPVz50
RIP

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>Eachtar nerf
It's literally fucking nothing holy fuck.

>>187643538
>can't flood the board anymore
>can't clear the board anymore
>THE NERFS WEREN'T ENOUGH WHAT THE FUCK WHY IS IT STILL PLAYABLE CYGAMES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Every time.

>>187643746
I'm fine with the nerf but Squasher should get hit too along with Eachtar.

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>>187644029

>>187643746
if he gets only a slap on the wrist shadow needs to get hit with much more, it's unacceptable that this is all they did considering how absolutely retarded shadow is as a whole

oh so the faggot that downplays xcraft cards was here all along

>>187644029
Not until they nerf Levi

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>>187644243

>>187642846
If you're deciding the game is a snoozefest anyway, it doesn't stop being a snoozefest just because you crank the turn count down from 20 to 7.
The real buff that aggro needs is just increasing the size of the starting hand and giving more draw engine cards like Belphegor, so they can actually do what aggro is supposed to do instead of relying on drawing one of their three copies of a given "I win" card.
>>187643538
>When someone is so bad at dealing with shadow they've never seen how fucking pitiful a two-zombie eachtar is.
He "might" still be relevant through prince catacomb, orthrus, and shadow reaper. Depends on how prevalent dirt and haven are going to be, because the only decent 3pps that shadow has are bone chimera and attendant, and Grimnir isn't as scary as he use to be with all the fucking 3-damage removals floating around.

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>>187644340

>>187642515
They're pretty good imo. Cygames is learning how to not nerf cards into uselessness

>>187644263
>slap on the wrist
>can't back to back Eachtar
>shadow cost per Zombie increased
>can't be used to make stupid comebacks because it's either 2 Zombies or nothing
>can't flood the board because it's either 2 Zombies or nothing

Shadow will still be tier 0.

>>187644608
>still gives rush and +2 to everything regardless of necromancy cost

please end your existence or at least don't talk anymore

as always /svg/ must deal in absolutes and won't admit that eachtar is neither trash nor horrendously oppressive as it was before, it's just a solid good finisher for midrange shadow

>>187644705
>the card still does what it is intended to do
Wow

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>>187639241
First Famitsu leak

>>187644758
that's funny since regardless of what it did after a nerf you can still say this with a straight face you stupid fucking cunt

>solid
do you guys read before pressing enter?

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>>187644340
>>187644243

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>>187639241
>>187644839
*will be, that is

>>187644839
Don't toy with my emotions you bastard.

What is a healthy meta even in SV? No matter the state of the meta I have seen so far, theres always people calling it cancer.

Though I do recognize that WD and TotG were rather bad

>>187645129
DE

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>>187644243
>>187644340
>>187644473

>>187644705
It's almost as if the card was meant to be a Midrange finisher on a board based deck.
The problem with Eachtar was that it was everything in one card. Now it's shit at filling a board and the 2 Zombie restriction + upped Necro cost strongly weakens his use as a tempo swing monster.
What retards like you want is for the card to be unplayable, what is never the correct way to deal with things. Shit like what was done to Harvest Festival or Homecoming is the absolute worst way to manage nerfs.

>>187645129
>No matter the state of the meta I have seen so far, theres always people calling it cancer.
Welcome to card games

>>187645129
Post nerf RoB

>>187645423
http://usamin.love/card/little_soulsquasher/j_attack.wav

>>187645427
I never said to make him unplayable you massive fucking retard I said that Shadow should be hit in additional areas like blood was, you're so fucking stupid you are arguing against shit that was never said, honestly just neck yourself or go back to r*ddit either stop posting cause I'm tired of reading you're stupidity

>>187645129
You know the meta is good when people complain about almost every class.

SoulSquasher is balanced.
fite me

>>187645651
if every class had a squasher/pre nerf BKB equivalent and tempo evos were better, i would be okay with her

>>187645631
>complains about them not taking away his buff
>not wanting to make him unplayable
>being this assblasted

>>187644343
>the real buff that aggro needs
>buff aggro needs
Fuck, fucking alt f4.

just compare the reasoning and explanations behind those changes
>Also, Bloodcraft is currently alone in its issue of having win rates that are significantly higher when going first than when going second. Some classes and deck types inevitably have an advantage when playing first or second, but game balance is negatively affected if this tendency becomes too pronounced: the outcome of matches can more easily end up becoming a matter of luck.

>Grimnir, War Cyclone and Ouroboros
>We believe that these changes should bring the win rate and use rate of Neutral Blood in line with where they should be. There is a risk, however, that classes currently being kept in check by Bloodcraft could become too strong as a result of this change. We’re specifically concerned about Ramp Dragon decks, Dragoncraft decks that increase a player’s play point orbs at the beginning of the match and then use high-cost cards from the middle of the match.

>Grimnir, War Cyclone and Ouroboros were central parts of the Tier 1 Ramp Dragon decks when Wonderland Dreams was released. Grimnir, War Cyclone was one of the cards originally considered for the June 28 (PT) card change. It’s probable that when the Neutral Blood deck’s win rate and use rate are brought into line, the effect of Grimnir, War Cyclone would end up deciding matches again. For that reason, we’ve decided to remove the damage that this card deals to the enemy leader while leaving the damage to enemy followers and Ward intact.
Ouroboros was designed as a finisher card that could be played again and again; pitted against offense-heavy decks, however, it can also counteract the opponent’s offense with its powerful healing effect. For that reason we’ve decided to leave this card’s finisher effect while removing its ability to restore defense; we predict that this should help move the game environment in a better direction.

>>187645819
I was arguing that it was a slap on the wrist because you're blowing it out of proportion you dumb FUCKING NIGGER stop replying to me you're so stupid that it's infuriating holy shit

>Princess Snow White

>Once Bloodcraft decks’ win rates and use rates have been adjusted, there is the risk that the next strongest decks—specifically, Havencraft decks that use Heavenly Aegis—will become too powerful in comparison. In the early July data mentioned above, the use rate of these Haven Aegis decks was second highest at 7.6%.

>Princess Snow White has been one of the cards powering Haven Aegis decks since the release of Wonderland Dreams. It’s extremely strong for a 2-play point follower, and we believe that changing it along with Tove will be help create the right game environment.


>Demonlord Eachtar
>(Shadowcraft, legendary)
>A card that has been on our radar for a while, Demonlord Eachtar finds himself the staple card for the most played and third strongest archetype, Midrange Shadow. This card can serve powerful offensive and defensive functions, including providing board development (by creating Zombies with its Necromancy effect), removal (by giving Rush to allied followers), and a strong finishing blow (by increasing the attack of allied followers). These changes will preserve its special role as a game finisher in offensive midrange decks while diminishing its role in defensive decks that would prefer to draw the game out. We are expecting these changes to have a positive effect on the game environment.

>>187645952
>I was arguing that it was a slap on the wrist
You didn't argue shit, you just stated that it was a slap on the wrist as if it were a fact.
>STOP REPLYING TO ME I AM RIGHT WAAAAH
What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>187645785
Well, Jeno was basically that.

>>187645872
>>187646043
What am I supposed to see here?

>>187646327
>blood is the only class with advantage going 1st
>we are predicting that ouro/girmnir/snow could get good, we are changing them just in case
compared to
>we predicted for like 5 months that eacthar is fine as a board flood, board removal and finisher
>we could change it not by much so we can preserve its role as the 7pp do nothing

>>187646327
Cygames employees are Shadow/Bloodniggers and butthurt shitposters.

>>187645785
>snowfield warrior
>jeno
>halo golem
>siegfried
>pre-nerf BKB
haven was the only one without those, then again i can see why you complain about squasher and BKB the most

>rune nerfed for no reason
/svg/ will defend this

>>187646278
>>187646691
ok those are fair points, to be honest i legitimately never had much issue with squasher or pre nerf BKB
my main gripes with shadow and blood were pre nerf eachtar and sabreur

>>187646970
they are set on not nerfing alice so crossdressing boi had to take the hit

>>187646970
>highest winrate
>nerfed for no reason

Oh right we only follow shadowlog here and they said midrange shadow had 68% winrate

>>187646970
>7 pp do everything nerfed
WAAAAA HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN???

>>187646970
It doesn't mean the deck is dead by any means.
The winrate will probably tank a bit, but very likely still be good enough to climb.

>>187646970
Literally kill yourself falicenigger.

>>187646691
jeno and snowfield cant clear two bodies on the turn it comes down. hardly the same thing as squasher.

>7 PP imp lancer with small upside
>totally broken, nerf that!
>2pp 2/2 destroy evolved enemy follower
>totally balanced!
Might as well change this thread name to Shadownigger General.

>>187647664
b-but muh necromancy costs!

>>187647401
>tank a bit
No, it wont even shake. If anything it will only increases along with Ambush Sword.

>>187647664
>falise faggot complaining about squasher
pottery

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When will you fags stop falling for the ''Falise nerf'' related posts? The ''nerf'' literally changes nothing and it'll be still just as strong, you'd have know this if you actually played the deck.

>>187647783
Shadow is not a "cost". It's pretty much free.

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>>187647664
>downplay AND deflection in the same post
wew lad

>>187647783
List 5 different ways how you will play squasher on turn 4 and activate the effect
Keep in mind ALL of them will invalidate your turn 6 deaths breath with wards and now turn 7 eachtar and will effectively make you lose the game

for /svg/
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white
there are others but these two are /svg/s worst offences

Let me get this straight. Are you guys unironically defending Lolisquasher? Seriously? It's the reason why Shadow has 60% winrate going 1st.

>>187648029
t. shadownigger

>>187648189
just dont evolve bro

>>187647262
Actually, even Shadowlog has NRune as the highest winrate deck.

>>187648189
Just play it around and make them lose shadows by evolving bro

>>187648189
just use your evo points and let me use my shadows on killing your minions making it so my kektar is less effective at filling the board but causing you to die by the absurd boardstate i've created that is getting buffed by my 7pp do everything bro

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IMMUNE TO NERF EFFECT

>>187648334
wait now that i think about it there are a whole lot more
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ambiguity
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/bandwagon
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-fallacy-fallacy
well at this point i'd just be copying the whole site so i guess ill just stop

>>187647976
You literally can't use Squasher's effect on 4, unless you squash a fucking Snow White, because it's impossible for your opponent to have an evolved follower and for your turn to be 4.