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Robot Edition

Previous Timeline: >>187338873


Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-The Game
>http://store.steampowered.com/app/391540/
>https://undertale.com/
>https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/undertale/cid=UP3893-CUSA08801_00-TFSHVCUTPS400084 On PS4 and Vita Now!
>https://www.fangamer.com/products/undertale-ps4-vita Physical and Collector's editions ship late September!

-The Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo/

-Artbook
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk

-Booru
>http://under.booru.org/

-Recommendbin
>https://pastebin.com/fsqd5Sa6

-Writebin
>https://pastebin.com/UCr5qFpc

-Fangamebin
>https://pastebin.com/ZHASpj9h

-Steam Group
>https://steamcommunity.com/groups/undertalegen

-Flockdraw
>http://flockmod.com/undertale

-Zeemap
>https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1873782

-Shimejibin
>https://pastebin.com/YFEGhgxY
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first for my favorite is better than your fav
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i love goat
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>>187421308
First for fucking monsters in the ass.
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>Toriel
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIPiGjFV4AAW9bD.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIPjo4hUIAEYrQt.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIO80VuUEAA8DLT.jpg:orig
>Flowey
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DINr8W4VAAE_cM0.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DINr7xTUIAAT1nh.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIPUFVwVwAIH560.jpg:orig
>Frisk
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DH-MV7DUIAAt4BF.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIOxXB2WAAAlQu8.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIOzMlJUEAQGzEI.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIOy3YUUEAEn429.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHfF-u_UIAAllMG.jpg:orig
>Chara
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIP6r99V4AAhpst.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHfF_vbUwAAUFw2.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DINh3ocUIAAeCpo.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIOaPJkUEAEYA_K.jpg:orig
>Sans
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIMj23HVYAAhbco.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DINlhodVwAAZ3lF.png:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIOpim2UIAAk95B.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIPDzvdUQAANRer.jpg:orig
>Gaster
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIOoz9fVAAA9Gl0.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIO7CQxV4AAV5Le.jpg:orig
>Undyne
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIO3yBsUwAEPFwr.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy6eh8YUcAAk74i.jpg:orig
>MEttaton
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIEN_-rUAAIE8gm.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHb_7IHUQAA6enS.png:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGy7r--UAAEWi4D.png:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIOzzIUUwAEYcjW.jpg:orig
>Skeletons
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIOy50GVAAEy4yw.jpg:orig
>Papyrus + Flowey
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHdVCR4UwAAI5o0.png:orig
>Toreil + Chara
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIOIVP3UIAASzxM.jpg:orig
>Fishlizard
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIPei78VwAA0XvM.png:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIPeyW2UQAAVqTf.jpg:orig
>MTT+ Blook
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DG3K51pVoAEc7JO.png:orig
>Catty & Bratty
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIP_5g7UwAAeBhy.jpg:orig
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>>187421403
Nuh Uh
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Reminder that all monsters have a piss fetish
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>>187421841
How can they have a piss fetish if they can't piss?
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>>187422315
That's exactly why they have it
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>>187421593
Thank you!
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Gonna hug the kiddo.
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>>187421403
But what if we have the same fave?

Didn't think of that, didya?
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>>187422812
Sans never even uses that word. Not like I'd accept a hug from him after the last time anyway.
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>flowey will never be your bf
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>>187422947
what about his famous line 'kiddo... do you wanna bad time?'
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The spider a cute! CUTE!!!
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>>187423416
jew is what they are
jews get the stick
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>>187423262
He's literally never said the word kiddo, and yet it's somehow become his catchphrase. How the fuck did that happen?
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>>187423593
I like this pic, but I feel like whoever made it went a little too apeshit with the bandages.
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>>187423416
That is one hell of a whisk.
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Kiddo is only used by gerson. He use only once in genocide.
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>>187424032
I know, kiddo is just kind of catchy to use now though.
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>>187423654
Well, he says kid a lot. Easy to add a -do at the end of it.
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>>187424032
>Gerson says kiddo
>Gerson knows about game mechanics
>Gerson fought humans before (probably gave them a bad time since he's still alive)
more like Gersans
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>>187423416
the spider is itchy
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>>187421308
>Too late to order collectors edition as a Christmas gift.
Well damn.
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>>187423262 >>187424261
Kiddo takes more effort than kid. And in Genocide, do you think Sans would be more likely to use the longer one to someone who deserves zero effort at friendliness in response to their shitty attitude?
>>187423654
Same way "Beam me up, Scotty" happened.
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>>187423416
But can the Spider find out if Miniature Giant space hamsters are real!?
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>>187424589
Yeah but more it sounds more playful, more Frisky.
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>>187424746
hey kiddo kid kid brat pal chummy little guy
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weird ships?
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>>187424589
>"Beam me up, Scotty"
To be fair, they pretty much said every other possible combination of those words in the series. The conflation isn't hard to accept.
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>>187425071
Did you draw this just now
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>>187425153
"Luke, I am your father."
"I'm ready for my close-up, Mr DeMille."
"Hello, Clarice."
"Get your stinkin' paws off me, you damn dirty ape!"
"I'm afraid i can't do that, Dave."
>>187425071
Jerry X Anyone.
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>>187425784
nah, you can find it by just searching up alphyrus
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>>187425071
Alphyrus has a good ring as a name. Don't tell Asgore
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>>187425819
Awww shit, is Sans saying kiddo proof that I've crossed into another timeline?
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>>187425908
Well that's egg on my face
Although I'm like this sure that the artist hangs around these parts
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Jerry facefucking Flowey after True Pacifist when?
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Does ps4 Undertale have any new content?
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>>187426917
They added the Japanese translation and the new room under Papyrus's sink but that also got added to the Steam version
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>>187426917
Dog Shrine, borders, changes one or two jokes, fixes bugged dialogue that didn't used to play before. All of these are being implemented on PC though.
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>>187426917
a few little things, nothing major

custom screen borders and the "dog shrine" are the biggest things, the latter's a new room under pap's sink where you can donate gold to a graven idol of Toby for useless cheevos and visual gags

recent updates have also put some cryptic messages in the code that people are freaking out over
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>>187426917
no aside of dogshrine that but I hear it was activated for PC too..? Or at least are in the files.
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>>187427086
>new room under Papyrus's sink but that also got added to the Steam version
Can't you only access it with a hack?
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>>187427086
>the new room under Papyrus's sink but that also got added to the Steam version
Not on PC, unless you slightly patch the game to enable it.
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Anyone played this on a CRT just for the sake of pure experience?
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>>187427202
>recent updates have also put some cryptic messages in the code that people are freaking out over
And with the anniversary only a month away, it's easy to see why. Goddammit Toby. Not again.
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>>187427202
Care to elaborate on these "cryptic messages"?
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>>187427910
Sure. First off, there's this. But this isn't new. It's just needed to understand the context of the next message. This doesn't appear in the game. Anywhere.
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Rate my edit/curation/abridgement of the Undertale soundtrack.
Right side is the recycling bin.

I tried to get the total length closer to an hour while getting the good songs and not completely missing lietmotifs.
Ended up being 1:22 compared to the original 2:11.
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>>187423416
No!
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>>187427978
Here's the new message, which was added during the update on the 24th.
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>>187426529
>>187425071
>People still remember me
Wow! And after all this time, someone remembers a weird artist that just drew dumb stuff.

However that one was drawn on my ipad, which I don't have anymore. I mostly draw with pencil and paper or if I'm desperate, with a mouse.
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>>187427395
I ported it to my PDP-11 and played it on an old-school paper terminal
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"get dunked on" completely ruined by the translation

>“huh? you died? strange, i was only trying to hug you.
>if you and i were really friends…
>you shouldn’t come to fight again.”
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>>187428348
Sans must use and entire ream of paper by himself.
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>>187428438
Yikes. Guess the nips don't like basketball.
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>>187428438
It's not really ruined. It's just another kind of joke.
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>>187428438
Ew.
That just makes Sans passive aggressive about killing you...
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>>187428542
but they do, they got like atleast 3 amines about it I think
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>>187428562
Sans is a pretty passive-aggressive guy normally, but he shouldn't be on the genocide route.
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>>187428562
>Implying Sans isn't constantly passive aggressive, even on more merciful runs.
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>>187423803
It's so her pastries are as tasty as possible!
>>187424467
Cute.
>>187424613
Of course they are real! The spider's cuteness can be attuned to any cuteness frequency, allowing her to detect the presence of any other cute beings! It turns out miniature giant space hamsters are very cute as well!
>>187428147
It's only a matter of time before the anti-cute consume your heart! You must love the spider! There is no other way!
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>>187428731
>>187428825
When does this happen? You mean like making you pay for dinner at Grillby's? Cuz that's more of a "lol J/K" kinda thing.
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>>187428962
If you kill Papyrus he's super passive-aggressive towards in in the judgement hall and during the phone call at the end of a neutral run.
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>>187428174
If you convert "HE IS" to Wingdings...
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>>187429416
>point down
>point left
>5 fingers
>blood drop
Okay. And?
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>>187429309
Oh, I thought you meant he was just passive-aggressive in general, not when he as a good reason.
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>>187428102
>Removed once upon a time.
That was a mistake. It's the iconic melancholy tune you hear when you start up Undertale.
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>>187429607
It's the other way around. He's only passive-aggressive when he has a good reason to be fully aggressive. But there's other instances. Like when he tells you he'd kill you where you stood if not for Toriel's promise, even if you haven't been remotely hostile on that run.
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>>187429416
'Look here, stop crying'?
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>>187429416
Down and left, stop and cry?
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>>187427978
>>187428174

I've seen them circulate but is there any information about who talks to and whom and when?
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>>187429668
You have the windows backwards. Left is what I'm keeping.
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>>187429996
It's not conversation. It's strings assigned as values to variables that are never used. It only exists in the files, not in the game. It's just dataminer bait.
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>>187429996
The use of the word "greetings" and the "demon" lines underneath strongly indicate that these belong to Chara, no?
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>>187429416
Down/Under left/there. Stop crying.?

-maybe he is just telling he is done and we shouldn't whine?
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>>187430150
>It's just dataminer bait
That Toby felt the need to add to in the latest update?
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>>187430043
Sorry, my bad. It's pretty good. Only thing I can think of missing is ghost fight but that's pretty much the same as Dummy! so it doesn't matter.
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>>187430335
Not in the latest update. In the first one, I think. Long before the PS4 release, anyway.
But "HE IS" was added in a similar way.
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>>187429416
I can't wait for Gaster and Sans Adventures through the Skeleverse
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>>187429416
>>187429549
>>187429932
>>187429940
>>187430302
Guys, the message wasn't in Wingdings. So why'd you translate it to WD and then try and find some hidden meaning in the arrangement of the symbols?
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>>187430335
Honestly? Taking into account the whole 'Suzy' thing yes, Toby would absolute add shit into the game that could be indication of something deep, but leads absolutely fucking nowhere.
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>>187430764
Suzy is an obvious sequel hook.
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>>187430764
>>187430957
Suzy?
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>>187430425
Yeah, the majority of the time I shaved off was basically from doing shit like that or picking "Can you really call this a hotel" over "Hotel".

I did completely drop the "Oh!" based songs, tho.
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>>187429416
HE
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>>187430175
Sure, I remember. And I assumed so far. I even assumed that it's a bridge to the time when you wake up in Soulless Pacifist runs end. I'm more wondering about the servant thing.. since Chara told the player that they were never in control. So why Chara would make themselves submissive?
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>>187430730
Macause of the ghaster meme
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>>187431163
I dunno, they also say you're their partner and that you'll be together forever. Kid's clearly got issues.
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>>187431014
http://nochocolate.tumblr.com/post/150974606272/clamgirl-suzy-and-the-limitations-of-undertale
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>>187431014
There's a character called Clamgirl, who depending on your fun value might appear under the Ghost House screen, in Waterfall. She'll talk about a character called Suzy who you could find in the MTT hotel and suggests you should become friends with her and she might be the reason you came here in the first place.

Except there is no Suzy and the area where she's claimed to be is inaccessible. When talking to Clamgirl again, she mentions how it's okay you didn't meet Suzy, after all, there's only so much you can do, and accepting that is healthy.

What's even weirder is that Clamgirl's dialogue also has a trigger in Sans' workshop, as it turns the potential TP photo into the "don't forget" photo.

It's probably a sequel hook or Toby fucking around, but it really doesn't amount to anything in the end, yet could be an endless source of guessing.
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>>187430730
I assumed it was part of that "cryptic message" NVM then
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>>187431098
HAS NO STYLE
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>>187431552
>>187431695
Yeah, I just read it. Seems stupid.
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>>187430730
Did you know that if you look closely at sans movements and attacks during his fight, it spells out HPTXTz.
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>>187431023
I know what you mean, Oh! One true love just sounds like a better version of for the fans.
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>>187431843
Yeah, I maybe should have left "For the fans" in, but that whole lietmotif just sounded tedious to me.
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>>187431794
HE HAS NO GRACE
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>>187431843
>>187432120
addendum: What really sucks is that Sans has almost no good songs. His default theme (the Grillby's music) is like, a short atmospheric loop as opposed to "music for listening".
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>>187423416
Fresh spider from Pixiv.
I guess they just have a huge "tea time" sign they put up sometimes.
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>>187429549

From what I've read, one of the mysteries about this 4 letters are trying to discover who wrote this.
"HE IS" was probably wrote by Gaster. There are only two characters that only speak in Caps, Papyrus and Gaster. Also, there are not a lot of letters that can be used as hands in the Windings font (?@ABCDEFGHI). The fact that "HE IS" has 3 hands characters out of 4 could mean that this message is supposed to be converted into Windings, and Toby couldn't think of many relevant words with these letters.

Also, I don't know how the "demon" strings work. There wre 4 strings, but they are all connected with (supposedly) Chara's message, right? Is demonx a new demon string?
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>>187432469
So... if people are datamining this stuff, can't they look at the code and see if its triggered by anything?
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>>187430730
Perfect reaction pic.
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What is Muffet's typing speed?
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If there are demons a,b,c and x, where are demons d-w?
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>>187433586
They are a hivemind that takes the shape of an aardvark in a popular children's cartoon.
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>>187432296
You aren't a fan of Megalovainia?
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>>187432469
>Is demonx a new demon string?
Yes. These are probably all events that took place but for some reason were erased along with Gaster, that's why they only exist in the code. Gaster may have made contact with the demon.
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>>187433553
She types like an old person. One finger at a time. And she lifts them each time to make sure they land on exactly the right letter.

And to make things worse, she uses a different hand each time, in a sequence that involves all six of them.
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>>187433712
My understanding is that that's a Chara song.
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>>187433712
Megalovania isn't Sans' song.
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>>187432895
They're just strings assigned to variables. I'm not sure if the code gets executed, but even if it does get executed, it does nothing.
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>>187433896
>>187433905
What?
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>>187434343
Don't acknowledge Chara. Sans is Megalovania
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>>187432456
Lovely! Thanks!
If you're going to put up a sign, might as well make it captivating!
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>>187433905
I read somewhere that Megalovania is a song for important battles that could be avoided, but weren't. It makes sense in the Halloween hack, at least. (never read Homestuck and I don't intend to.)
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>>187434343
All the characters have specific note sequences in their music that are retooled for other songs about them.

Megalovania doesn't have any of Sans' music.
Given that all the fight music is of the person who initiates the fight, its thought that Megalovania is Chara's music.

>>187434469
Why the sudden butthurt? There's no need for that.
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>>187433905
not this shit again
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>>187433896
It's not Chara's, either.
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>>187434849
I mean, I guess that could be right, but it seems like the more boring option.
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>>187433896
>>187433905
>>187434469

its YOUR song
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>>187434849
it's andonuts, he's just off screen
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>>187435310
Damn right it is. I killed Sans. I deserve the best theme song in the game.
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>>187435359
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>>187422947
It became his fanon catchphrase for the kid because in the game he's always using terms like "buddy, pal, kid," etc, instead of the usual "Human" that everyone else uses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JXVwGFf1Oc
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>>187435438
Personally I prefer battle against a true hero and Asgore over megalovania.
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>>187434794
>>187435310
No no. I'm not saying it's Sans song. I'm saying that Sans is literally Megalovania
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>>187436608
no, it's grand daddy professor pastry
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>>187436738
Who is also Sans who is also Steven who is also Ness
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>>187436608
>I'm saying that Sans is literally Megalovania
Wat.
I would think Megalovania would mean "Mega-LOVE Mania"
That's why I associate it with Chara. (although yes, I know the song predates the game)
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>>187436605
BAaTH is great, and so is ASGORE, but I like Megalovania better. Probably because I had to listen to it the most. It seriously never gets old.
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Chara is not responsible for genocide. But they're still an awful person.

And Charrator a shit.
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>>187436894
No no Anon. You don't Understand. Sans is the song megalovania
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>>187436894
>although yes, I know the song predates the game
So why do you still believe it?
Acknowledging a counter-argument is not a replacement for refuting it.
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>>187436909
Yeah it does have a 'oh shit here we go' kind of vibe to it.
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>>187436939
You are objectively correct.
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>>187436939
They are responsiible for Genocide.

Sure, they never told Frisk initially "Hey, we should kill everyone", or in any way implied it. Sure, Frisk may have been the one to actively decide to do the deed. But Frisk's killing intent in and of itself stems from Chara, thus it is all Chara's fault for being so inherently violent and murder-y.
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>>187436986
Because it appeals to me asthetically.
>Acknowledging a counter-argument is not a replacement for refuting it.
I'm not arguing. I'm acknowledging my head-canon.
These threads could use more of that.
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>>187437235
There is no interaction between Frisk and Chara because one is a reincarnation of the other and they are semi-mutually exclusive.

In the geno ending, Frisk doesn't exist.
In the TP ending, Chara doesn't exist anymore.
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I love this boy.
Okay, enjoy your evening.
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>>187437538
Thanks dude. You too.
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Are you people fucking serious? Still having needless and time-wasting arguments concerning who Megalovania represents when the truth is right in front of your little eyes? Can you just not get the truth through your thick skulls? Sad.
I'll say it here and now, so listen. Megalovania belongs to BRISKA CIRCUIT
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>>187437478
Chara did not reincarnate the way you think.

Frisk fell, and woke Chara up. Thus, Chara's essence reincarnated into Frisk at that moment.
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>>187437918
Homiecuck, begone! Go back to giving Steven Universe characters tentacledicks.
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>>187437918
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>>187437538
Why does everyone keep drawing Monsters in spiffy outfits? Their clothing literally comes from the garbage.
Picture every hideous piece of clothing you've ever seen. This includes 80s shit. Now picture Monsters picking out the stuff that was worn the least and wearing it as high fashion.
Just look at what they do with basketballs! Papyrus wears them as shoulderpads. And apparently they're BACK in vogue!
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>>187438062
But we see the trigger for Chara's reawakening.
We "Name the fallen human"
"Name" and "Fallen" both have double-meanings.

Other than mistaken implications of the opening cutscene, there's no reason to actually think an 8th child fell at all.
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>>187438330
Yeah, but that changes if they go to the surface.
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So I just found out that Omega Flowey kills you 32 times at the end of his fight.
So that's the number of times I'm going to hack Flowey to pieces. It's only fair, right?
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>>187438065
Foolish fools! You only further distance yourselves from the enlightenment Her Wickedness has been gracious enough to offer you! Our high queen Bricks a Sekhmet is the only truth! Drive this fact into your minuscule brains!!!!!!!!

Also, she like totally has a better puss puss than Moofit

>>187438518
Edgy even by our standards
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>>187438356
Bandage and stick, man.
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>>187438330
Asgore's flower shirt seemed fine but maybe he became a hippie so you're right
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>>187438504
But would their taste in fashion change just because they are exposed to actually good stuff? I know some people whose taste in anime is literally shit because its what they first encountered: all the garbage anime.

>>187438693
Friend tried to get me into Homestuck, kept claiming I looked just like one of the kids. Which... doesn't really work as they're literally heads with vague body-like shapes. Friend made the mistake of linking Pickle Inspector first. I understood like one out of two proper nouns you used.
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>>187438693
You're right. I'll probably lose count after 12 anyway.
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>>187439027
Asgore is also old as balls. He grew up on the Surface and was banished into the Underground.
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>>187438972
Huh. I guess that's a good point.
So does that mean the Chara/demon thing is actually literal, since she possesses Frisk in the geno ending?
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Baby Flowe is for protecting.
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>>187438693
>Also, she like totally has a better puss puss than Moofit
Blasphemy. Spider has top tier pusspuss. Go back to the shadows! The dark tentadicks will not avail you, spawn of evil! YOU SHALL NOT POST!!
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>>187439256
Which kid was it?

>>187439336
That's fine! The only number that really matters anyway is 8!

>>187438330
And what of Muffet's and Undyne's outfits? They seem rather attractive and well put-together.
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>>187439525
Like Hell that little shit is gonna be protected. It's fucking Damien Thorn or Rosemary's Baby.
>>187439596
>spider
>lotr ref
Oh god I'm having Silmarillion flashbacks. NOPE NOT THE HELLSPIDER.
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>>187439491
That part is sorta open to interpretation. But let's not start this now.
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>>187439795
Embrace Ungoliant, the Primodrial Spider!
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>>187439795
It's ok the spider has a sexy human form that did well in the focus test
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>>187439763
>kid
"Sleepy Jade".
>fashion
Muffet is an adult spider running a scam I mean bakesale. No stripes = not a child. Its kind of hard to tell what her clothes look like but it looks like she has a giant bow on the front of her shirt over giant baggy skirt-shorts with either large creases or those slits that snobby rich fags put in their clothing because looking like you came back from a war was so in!
As for Undyne, remember: her house burned down. The date outfit either came from Papyrus's closet or was forgotten at Paps's house by mistake. On the other hand she loves shitty anime. There is a chance that it is secretly a cosplay outfit.
>>187440032
FUCK NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO HATE THE SPIDER IT ALMOST ATE FUCKING FANTASY!LUCIFER AFTER SUCKING THE SUN AND MOON TREES DRY
>>187440164
OH GOD NO WHY do not need that motherfucker as a succubus
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>>187439525
I've got a place he can sleep.
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>>187440164
Saying this reminded me of pic related.
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>>187439795
>Oh god I'm having Silmarillion flashbacks
Did you actually manage to finish that thing? I got bored about a quarter in and stopped.
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>>187440407
Embrace the Spider with all your love, and your journey towards the Spider-side will be complete!
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>>187440567
Its pretty interesting if you can get over that it has very little to do with events in LOTR. Like, the entire second age with Neumenor, Sauron, and the rings is a pretty shot bit at the end.
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>>187438330
Mettaton is obsessed with humanity, and he's the one pushing hideous, literally trashy fashion trends. Monsters who aren't interested in the bot seem to dress conventionally. Undyne and Alphys have cute date outfits. Most NPCs wear normal clothing.
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>>187440567
I read myths and fairytales growing up for fun. That book was a beast to plow through but I managed it over the course of a few years. Not because it was hard to read but because it was dry as fuck at times.
That being said there were a lot of cool tales sprinkled through. I still wanna punch Feanor in the nads. Creepy twink who was super obsessed with Magic Trees that he lusted after his niece's pretty hair. Who the fuck goes to war over shiny gemstones?! And Turin had the shittiest fucking life I swear. If there was any human who should had been the star of a grim-fest edgelord game like Shadow of Mordor, it was him.
>>187440729
*deep breath*
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
She legit gave me a nightmare over the mere concept of her.
>>187440859
>Numenor
I still think he was just leaning back on the throne laughing his ass off over how well he conned the Numenorian higher ups right before Eru said "fuck this shit, that island is going down like Atlantis".
>>187440862
If Mettaton paid attention to Humanity outside of their form, he'd know their fashion styles instead of spamming his face and shitty opinions everywhere.
Alphys's date outfit is a polkadotted black dress that does not do her figure anything nice. See earlier comment about Undyne's house burning down. As for most NPCs, many just wear a shirt or pants. Kind of hard to fuck up clothing when you're just wearing a single article.
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>>187439525
Always protect the Floweys!
I remember seeing a comic with baby Flowey throwing pellets at someone, then starting to cry with anger when they were dodged. Does anyone have it?
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>>187441258
>does not do her figure anything nice
1. That's just her shape.
2. She is cute.
3. FIGHT ME
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Would you still love your fave if they were 8 and one night they had a nightmare and were so afraid of waking you up by crying that they ended up throwing up in their bed out of stress
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>>187440431
IT'S AWWWWWWWWWWRIGHT!!!
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>>187441258
She's a nicely designed character.
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>>187441729
Yes and I'd comfort and treat them.
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>>187440431
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>>187441696
I didn't say she's not cute. I said polkadots don't work for her.
>>187441847
I know LotR and The Silmarillion are based off of myths and fairytales and they can get super fucked up but I did not expect Lovecraftian shit in my fantasy novel.
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>>187441258
>because it was dry as fuck at times
That's the problem. It's dryer than your grandma's cunt.
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>>187436738
https://pastebin.com/baVKZENW

might as well post this since it's somewhat topical.

Also it's got insane theory bullshit behind it so proceed with caution
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>>187442087
POLKA DOTS ARE ADORABLE ON HER, I'LL KICK YOUR ASS
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What's more powerful, Sans's fire eye or Andonuts' psycho aura
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>>187441740
>>187441914
Oh God I hadn't even thought of the implications
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>>187440431
gaster no
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>>187442426
I'm sure I'll hurts someone's feelings with this, but Andonuts could kill Sans pretty easily. If a kid could do it, a roid rage old man that can dismember people as an attack surely can.
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>>187442087
Fantasy can be wondrous or terrifying, Tolkien spent most of his life honing the skill of worldbuilding.
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>>187442565
Yeah but it's like a figment of Andonuts' imagination or something, right
Although monsters die from a stiff breeze if you want them to die hard enough so I guess it's not that impossible
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It begins. Now faggots on YouTube can finally stop demanding it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T7AHPy3SxE
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>>187442276
It's a history book. No matter how epic or amazing, it still is a fucking history book.
>>187442296
They don't work for her! They make her look fat! Plus the dumbass kept using the WRONG dating sim items on me. She was obviously gunning for Undyne Route and forgot to get stuff for MY route.
>>187442617
For a world crafted to support fictional languages, he did a damned good job.
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>>187441603
I'm not sure whether this is it. But this appears to be a baby Flowe by the same artist.
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>>187442709
I mean, at that point the only way sans can fight psycho andonuts is to go after him into his imagination.

Like in the game, if you go after him into the machine to kill him you die along with him. I'm sure Sans knows how to press the b button though.

Regardless, Andonuts is just to OP, its pretty stacked. Andonuts could probably wipe out the whole cast well, chara and frisk are different thing.
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>>187442805
He sure did. His work can even be seen in most modern day fantasy works.
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>>187442805
Alphys is a lovely, pleasantly plump lizard, and I'm sorry you cannot appreciate her form.
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>>187442805
what is your route?
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>>187443202
You completely misunderstand me: I'm not saying she's not lovely. I'm saying that polkadots do. not. work. for. her.
Hell, removed the dots and the dress is perfectly fine.
>>187443340
Chocolate, video games/classical literature books, paint sets.
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>>187442805
>They don't work for her! They make her look fat!
I'm pretty sure that being fat makes her look fat...
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>>187443645
Fatter then.
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>>187443003
>Andonuts KILLS the Undertale universe
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I want Toriel to get drunk and throw a frozen pizza at Sans, killing him instantly.
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>>187442805
You are canonically the only thing she isn't attracted to.
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I want Alphys
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>>187444481
Do you think she was like that with her family and that's why Chara committed suicide?
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>>187444481
She's attracted to Undyne. That's fine, she's not my type and I hope she and Undyne have a long and happy life together. But she went all Dating Sim on my ass and spammed Route-specific items on me. Bitch should know how to properly Dating Sim.
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I don't know how to feel about Sans
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>>187444481
I would say that she's a crazy weeb that could get turned on by toilet paper if she tried hard enough
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That feel when no chubby lizard gf
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>>187444874
it's okay to be attracted to him
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>>187444979
I know I don't feel that
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>>187444961
it hurts
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>>187445162
just kill me senpai
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>>187444481
Alphys/Player is canon
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>>187444494
>>187444961
then go get her, it's easy.

>>187445515
oh fuck I didn't even think about this
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>>187445515
The HUMAN is the only person she isn't attracted to.
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>>187444979
did the artist who made this still make undertale stuff?
and if so has it gotten dumber?
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>>187445162
>>187445279
unnnf
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>>187445669
I don't think so, the sanswank fic epic their art was based on stalled out sometime last year so they probably lost interest
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>>187445959
Link to fic?
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>>187444979
Uh, Sans is literally slimy and disgusting and just dumps all his clothes in a big fat ball on his bed.
>>187445515
That read more as Mettaton fucking with Alphys by skirting the edge of her crush on Undyne. And possibly Asgore.
Alternately: Gaster.
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>>187446076
http://archiveofourown.org/works/5053684
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>>187446076
http://archiveofourown.org/works/5053684/chapters/11621461

i will never stop finding it funny that the author wrote over half a million fucking words before getting bored and wandering off
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>>187446226
>>187446260
>those fucking tags
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>>187446130
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>>187446130
It has nothing to do with Undyne or Asgore. Gaster is maybe possible, but unlikely. Here's the full thing.
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>>187446364
It's Archive of Our Own. Its just the tip of the iceberg with tags.
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>>187445515
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>>187446130
>That read more as Mettaton fucking with Alphys by skirting the edge of her crush on Undyne. And possibly Asgore.
>Alternately: Gaster.
I can see you've never selected the I don't know option. She literally mentions alternate-
>>187446450
Oh. You already posted it.
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>>187446364
you're so innocent anon
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>>187446681
I enjoy this artist's work.
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>>187446403
Pfftehehe.
>>187446450
Like friends don't casually fuck with friends like that, saying that they'll never have a girlfriend. Evidence be damned.
Of course with her mention about that literal trash anime it could be a fictional character instead.
>>187446681
no.
>>187446742
First run I was frantically trying to answer before I eventually noticed at the last few questions that Alphys was making hand-letters.
Second run I went with hand-letters.
Third run was attempt at Genocide.
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>>187438693
Dump your vriska folder into a mega for me pls
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This is the most-tagged Undertale fic on AO3 in case anyone is interested
https://archiveofourown.org/works/7883158
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>>187446458
>>187446764
i remember some other fic with just a wall of tags
i forgot what it was
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>>187446450
>>187446130
It is pretty funny that the Gaster thing fits. Cuz y'know... Gaster doesn't exist in like, the cosmic sense (like Bruce Wayne's parents)
If you try to name the fallen human "Gaster", the game acts like you divided by zero and crashes.
The room with his lab entry causes the game to crash, because the universe is like, "Literally who?"

Also interesting that the kind of dead that describes Gaster can be correctly described as "Hyper Death"
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>>187446873
Weaver was alright.
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>>187446681
>ywn twiddle the lizard nip, smooching it, nibbling on it, making her squeal with delight with you touch and your tongue
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>>187446948
>Alphys literally talks about an alternate universe crush
>Anon denies evidence.
Give it up.
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>>187447015
oh never mind there it is
>>187446996
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>>187446996
>Fonttale
Well, I'm already done.
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>>187447174
thanks for making me feel this pain
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>>187447264
Nah, you were probably thinking of this one. It's number 3.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/8798035
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>>187447409
>Extreme Pedophilia
wat
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>>187447174
Really? I'd just hook it up to a car battery and see what happens.
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>>187446996
>tries to read
>eyes start to itch
I know how bad the tagging can be but holy shit.
>>187447015
Its an easy rule of thumb: the more tags there are, the odds are greater that the fic is shit.
>>187447052
He's not hyper dead. He's still is technically alive in some manner. He just has all in-verse data pointing towards him deleted. And when you touch him the universe goes "oh hey that's not supposed to be there".
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>>187447409
>Soul in vagina for punishment
...
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>>187447409
>baby blow job
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>>187447409
>baby blow job

THERE IS A SPECIAL KIND OF HELL FOR THESE PEOPLE
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>>187447553
Maybe this helps
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>>187447409
>UF!Sans has given birth only a month a go to a healthy daughter, Frisk.
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>>187447553
The one that without fail pisses me off is "non-con."
Like that makes it any nicer than admitting it is fucking rape.
>>187447667 >>187447630
Important distinction: is the baby giving or getting?
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>>187447553
I-is that worse than extreme anus?
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>>187447409
this really feels like something a collaborative trollfic by some cringe subreddit
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>>187447409
Delet.
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>>187447565
>He's still is technically alive in some manner.
When all that's left of you is fragments that cause glitches in the fabric of the universe, I'd call that "Hyper Dead".

Think of it like a Hyper Cube versus a regular cube.
He's just dead in 4D.
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>>187447746
BOTH ARE BAD
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>>187447409
what the mother of all ungodly fuck
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>>187447746
It doesn't matter, Ian Watkins is still babysitting.
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>>187447409
>(Sans is conditioned to think Gaster is his daddy)
>Sans is conditioned to think he is a girl
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>>187447409
this probably a horrible idea
but i going give it a quick peak
may god forgive us all
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>>187447670
That does the opposite of help with my understanding.

>>187447746
I'm not even mad. If anything, I'm kinda happy that efforts to make the internet "nice" are failing so hard.

>>187447750
Both sound like something out of FATAL.
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>>187447804
>Hypercube
Cube was better, but both were better than Cube Zero.
>>187447807
True. I'm spending far too much time trying to figure which is worse.
>>187447808
I'm morbidly curious about this. Got the link to the full?
>>187447893
Who?
>>187447962
... what.
>>187448064
Not even thinking about "sanitization" of the internet but just call a spade a fucking spade though!
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>>187448249
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Watkins_(Lostprophets)
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Sans didn't deserve any of this.
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>Based of RP on Tumblr with @tempestjewelsin
Jesus Christ what was that like
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>>187447409
>Grillby in bathwater
My questions do not have answers
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>>187447409
>>187447791
Sadly, I don't believe that is the case.
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>>187448492
Yes he does
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>>187448613
i'm tempted to leave a comment saying this is why god doesn't talk to us anymore
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>>187448454
Fucking hell.
>>187448492
He deserves a dopeslap.
>>187448554
Grillby's into some kinky shit.
>>187448613
Comments are a cesspit of mutual wanking to actually fucked up shit.
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>>187447409
It's like whoever wrote all that want to tell us something, that might not actually be undertale related.
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>>187446873
me too
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>>187446681
>>187445515
>Alphys had been perfecting this invention
>finally she had made a breakthrough
>With a flick of a switch, the machine powered to life, gallons of red fluid sloshing around in tubes as vents bellowed out steam
>The door slowly rose open, shots of electricity beaming back and forth to conductors
>those were new, they were neccesary too after the last test
>finally, it seemed this machine was ready to have it's first test subject.
>"you know, I don't think this is a great idea"
>The skeleton urged her, placing a hand on her shoulder as lights flashed from the machine
>She didn't care, she was too determined.
>she beckoned the whimsun, who was shivering
>they had a camera not-so gracefully duct taped to it's head
>"Now, j-just go in, look around, and then get out of there. O-okay?"
>Alphys grabbed the Whimsun, trying her best to sound assertive
>The small monster was already scared shitless, he nodded anyways
>"and If you get hurt or feel any pain, p-please, don't go further."
>Sans and Alphys watched in anticipation as the monster nervously approached the violently curving vortex in front of it.
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>>187449274
Yes Alphys. The children are not as pure as you thought.
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>>187449112
>>187448613
Maybe they just want to tell us they're 13 and want attention by being as vulgar as possible.
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>>187448709
I can't think of a less likely candidate for erotic mpreg torture fiction, yet it exists in abundance. He just wants to eat bad food in peace. I'm sorry, Sans.
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>>187449274
>that slight grin on frisk
every time
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>>187449326
continue
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>>187449274
why has no one done a story for this, for fucks sake.
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>>187448524
As bad as you think.
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>>187449571
Frisk is enjoying her suffering.
>>187449648
Because they're too busy wanking to shitfics.
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>>187449383
Sans suffers so the other Undertales could get a happy ending. Fitting for an unfunny overhyped meme character
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>>187449684
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>>187450493
>Sans
>Unfunny
Bite your tongue!
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>>187450680
Don't bother with him. Seriously.

https://pastebin.com/5RFm419a
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>>187450518
They'll never stop. NEVER.
>>187450493 >>187450680
He is funny. In the same way a pun is funny. You'll get a few laughs here and there at first blush. Eventually you'll get another laugh again. But as people grow more familiar with the joke you're less likely to get laughs.
No challenge against "overhyped" or "meme". He was hyped from day one with the demo, and especially with how much the fandom clung to his bony ass.
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>>187450883
>Actually responding to me seriously
Please have sex.
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>>187450883
>He was hyped from day one with the demo
?
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>>187449326
>you sat at your computer, encapsulated in the darkness of your room
>The brightness of your screen the only indication that someone even existed in this room
>You browsed the web, well, more like just stared at it
>life had been pretty uneventful recently
>you just wasted time now, hoping maybe some sort email would pop up or something
>suddenly, a program popped up, front and center of your screen
>it was undertale?
>you sighed, this toby fox guy has to quit it with all of this dumb immersion shit.
>recently the game kept opening up, at first just black and then it turned off
>but then characters, usually Alphys, would say stuff
>you really, just didn't care though
>you dragged the cursor to the X
>A loud boom echoed through your room, as a white blur shot right out of your screen, smacking you off your chair onto the ground
>you shook your head, trying desperatley to figure out what the fuck just happened.
>you crawled over to a lightswitch, flicking it on
>fluttering desperatley in your room was some sort of cartoonish insect thing
>you were in utter shock as it flung it's head around, clearly just as confused as you.
>the poor thing was out of breath as it held onto some thing on it's head
>you got up, trying to calm it down
>it just screamed at you, and dove back at your screen
>and with that, it was gone
>and all you could think was
>What in the fuck just happened

>>187449637
oh I will
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>>187451194
He and Papyrus appeared at the end of the demo's "Pacifist" run.
https://youtu.be/f2rKz4CgyBg?t=299
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>>187451451
And you think people were hyped for him? He looked like a one note joke character. The demo days were all about Toriel porn.
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>>187451595
I was eager to see them.
Mostly to punch them for being shitty punsters.
But I was still eager.
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>>187451595
This tbqh

Before release, Tori had the most lewd hands down.
Then came release and Sans overtook her by over 100 on paheal. I dunno what the figures are now.
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>>187451451
He was there, but he wasn't popular until le epic genocide bad time depressed genius boss fight.
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>>187451953
>tfw the reason why humans keep murdering everyone you know and care about because they hear you're a good fight
>and they go yandere on your bony ass
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>>187451595
>The demo days were all about Toriel porn
God, those were the days
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>>187452149
Imagine how many genocide runs could have been averted if he just started sleeping from the get-go.
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>>187452495
You just enjoyed all the scat porn didn't you
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>>187452495
There's some fresh toriel porn on paheal right now.
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>>187451418
This is giving me some Nomad Soul vibes. What's next? Is he gonna fuck Undyne in Alphys' body?
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>>187451418
hey, let's speed this up, I'm sure this part isn't what people really care about

>the two monsters were getting worried, it had been a minute or two with no response
>suddenly, the small monster shot out of the vortex, twirling out of control as it crashed into a stack of noodle cups on Alphys' desk
>They both rushed over, Alphys desperatley trying to help up the Whimsun
>after caring for the monster, they reviewed the the video it captured
>at first, they thought they accidentally just sent the poor monster to someone's unkempt room
>but then, you appeared, front and center in the tape
>despertley trying to help the monster as it shook the camera around
>"o-oh my god... i-it worked..."
>Alphys was starry eyed as she got up-close to the screen
>"huh. we actually did it. we made dimensional travel."
>sans was shocked, even if he didn't show it
>Alphys however, was focused on something else as she kept replaying the video
>She paused on a shot of you, a mixed look of shock and confusion on your face
>"sooo, that's on the other side of that portal"
>Alphys was silent, she just stared.
>"wellll, i'm gonna go home, try not to cause any trouble with this thing, k"
>alphys just mumbled "y-yeah, have a good night" as sans grabbed the whimsun
>and with that, he was gone
>Alphys sat their, staring at you on her screen
>curiosity was starting to get the best of her as she slowly looked over to the machine
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>>187452651
Half of them easily. Hell, I have friends who did constant 'loopings' of just Sans's fight, as in they saved right before facing him and reload the second they kill him. The whole point of the Genocide was just to fight Sans over and over and over.
If he remembered the 'loops', he would had gone absolutely insane. ... Where's that one fic I saw... It was Silent Hill and played with the idea of Save Points. Found it! Short, but the concept stuck with me. https://www.fanfiction.net/s/2021061/1/Save-Point-Hell-Is-Repetition
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>>187452736
I'll have to go take a look later.
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>>187452958
I did the same thing. Except I only did it 3 times. He knows; doesn't remember, but can see it on your face.
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>it's been nearly two years and i still love this gote
wow
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>>187453607
i no rite??????/
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>>187453579
Three times is fine. My friend who did it at least three times every other day... Well, it is their game and they can do whatever the want with it but holy shit there are other games you can gank enemies in!
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>>187453607
me too anon me too
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>>187452901
>It had grown late, and the lizard's mind had been racing
>she stared at the switch, it seemed to beckon
>she dreamed of this, alternate dimensions, a whole new universe
>sure it wasn't mew mew kissy cutie, but still
>she had hundreds of theories about what could lay on the other side
>maybe even someone...someone who watched her...and thought she was cute
>it could be that person.
>she couldn't resist it, she needed to do it
>and with her shiverring hand, the meek lizard pulled down the switch, powering the machine up
>she never felt so excited to see each light flicker on
>each puff of steam to billow out of the vent
>she felt her butterflies in her stomach as she waited for the door to slide open
>finally, the gates slid open, static shooting around as the colorful vortex spun to life
>she stood at the brink, still not sure if she could go through with this
>what if it didn't work, was it worth it?
>no, she had waited too long for this moment, worked too hard.
>she closed her eyes, held her breath, and stepped through the spinning gate
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>page 10

NOT ON YOUR LIFE
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>>187453607 >>187453691 >>187453912
I swear I must be the odd man out. I'd be happy chilling out with most of the characters but there's none I'd see myself /being/ with.

Like the fic being composed above? Alphys would be super disappointed. We'd butt heads in arguments over her shit-taste in anime. From the sound of it, Mew Mew Kissy Cutie is a shitty Slice of Life Magical Girl anime. You know, the sort that have the heroine doing odd tasks to mystically collect a magic feather or some shit from different (usually male) characters-of-the-week which involves solving the character's current/long-lasting problem(s). With the added "fun" of casual screwball shit that you get to see with Magical Girlfriend anime and Human-like Alien Girlfriends.
If I must watch a Shoujo anime, give some bite to it! Or better yet I'd show her some actually good anime, or at least better than that shit. Princess Tutu, Sugar Sugar Rune, Magic Knight Rayearth and other CLAMP works if you wanna stretch it... Hell, I'd show her Card Captor Sakura just for the costumes and card designs!
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for some reason, it took several attempts to post this
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>>187453851
It's a great fight, but if I spent that long on it I'd probably get pretty bored eventually.
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>>187456457
4chan had some posting problems for a brief moment.
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>>187454118
If this doesn't involve anon showing her his copious amounts of Undertale porn I'm going to be disappointed
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>>187456640
>showing Alphys undertail tagged porn
>showing Alphys shitty/pointlessly violent Undertale "AUs"
>showing Alphys UnderfreshSans or Handplates
>showing Alphys corrupted/scrambled Undertale runs
So many possibilities to freak her out.
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>>187456921
Is he the legendary Super Skeleton?
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>>187457476 >>187456640
Whoops. Forgot to also say
>showing Alphys Undertale cut-content rooms that are still lingering in the code of the game.
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>>187457476
Shit nigga, you'd think just showing her the game proper would be enough to destroy her sanity. That's just being needlessly cruel.
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>>187457476
What AU had all the Alphyne guro? Swapfell?
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>>187453607
>>187453691
>>187453912
So what's it like being an Asrielfag in 2017? Does it hurt?
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>>187457828
That's the one.
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>>187457871
Better than either of the other goats
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>>187457912
Alphys would love it.
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Why don't you eat more butterscotch pie?
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(You) are responsible for the murders comitted during the genocide run, except for those explicit instances where the game's controls are take from you. At those points Chara is in control. For the most part they have no impact on the game.

Asriel is a mass-murderer who fuckulates with timelines and is a shapeshifter who cannot be trusted and probably my husbando as well

Frisk is a blank slate zombie through which (You) perform actions through for the majority of the game in every single run

Asgore is a goat who somehow came to have the six human souls, whether he directly killed each one is speculative

Toriel is a wino who's okay with harming and threatening children to keep them with her and also likes shitty puns

Papyrus is eccentric and dumb but he's a cool dude

Sans is a lazy fucking skeleton

Alphys is a shitty lizard who deserves to die and is a fucking traitorous liar with shit taste in anime

Undyne is the head of the Royal Guard
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>>187458014
Cause I don't like pie
>>187458070
Nah I killed Sans, Chara may have helped out a bit at the end there but I still did most of the work and deserve the credit
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>>187458070
That doujin needed more Flowey.
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>>187458240
Link?
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>>187457929
I seriously doubt that.
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>>187423654
Worm fanboys.
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>>187458228
Nope you were cuckolded by a ghost
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>>187458434
http://imgur.com/a/oTrYd
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>>187457641
Look right above what you posted too.
Just think of all of it from her perspective. Seeing your world hypersmuttified and everyone's personalities warped to match. Seeing people you know and care about acting completely out of character and sowing misery in their despair. Seeing someone you care about suffer at the hands of a puppeteer parasite eldritch abomination, or a horrific Monster that you do not recognize. Or Papyrus with Flowey "Possession" by that little fuck threading his vines throughout the skeleton's bones.
Then there's the corrupted/scrambled Undertale where everything is familiar but nothing is the same. Things you've heard other people say or write come out of the wrong mouths at the wrong times.
And with cut-content... something is hopelessly broken about the world. Some places are just recognizable enough, others look almost exactly like a place you have seen walking to/from work but it... there is something fundamentally wrong with it. And then there's places that are empty of anything familiar, with strange blood fountain-like things and people you've might know standing in multiple places simultaneously like statues.

>>187458070
You forget that at times Frisk yanks control away as well. They hide behind the lamp without your control, and they struggle against you as you try to reach that bathtub in the True Lab. There's more of course but I can't think of them at this second. So Frisk isn't entirely blank slate. They do gain some drive of their own.
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>>187457515
he's a real super sans lesbian
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>>187458593
>Undyne is the only woman in Frisk's harem
>Frisk just bursts into Asgore's throne room and precedes to have sex with him
kek
The Alphys thing made me feel bad though. The lizard isn't that bad guys come on no need to be a dick
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>>187458014
It'd make the game way too easy. Imagine if you could eat 8 slices of pie in front of Asgore? He'd sudoku on the spot.
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>>187458593
What was the source of this doujin?
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>>187459038
Asgore is already an easy boss fight and I saw that as a dadfag

The real issue is that it would make Undying and Sans too easy during genocide. Sans would be a complete joke if you had 8 full heals
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>>187459038
>sudoku
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>>187458228
>not calling the image mr rad guy.png
Do you even pun?
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>>187459068
https://twitter.com/simika25/status/894535586664423424
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>>187458821
>sans lesbian
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>>187458890
>spoiler
It's just a shitty meme. I wouldn't take it too seriously

As for those who legitimately insist on her being the second coming of Mengele, I'm beginning to legit believe that it's being pushed by secondaries and the like. In the game, it's obvious that she takes no pleasure in any of what happened, nor did she intend for everyone to end up in such a bad way. in the meantime, all the Alsef Menphys pushers portray her as wanting everything like it was in the first place, even planning for everyone to end up all mushy and conglomerated. It's a huge load of bullshit
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>>187458890
Well, on the bright side, Alphys has cameras all over the underground. She probably enjoyed watching Frisk take every monster's dick during his escapades.
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>>187459409
alphys dindu nuffin
she was a gud girl who needed dem bodies fo dey determination experiments
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Friendly reminder that Alphys having a juicy donut is canon
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>>187460865
Hey, who knows? Maybe Gaster actually did all the experiments and his role just got switched out with Alphys in the timelines when he hyper-died.

After all, Alphys IS a fraud. Her "Robot", which gained her her job, is just a ghost possessing a metal body.
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>>187461247
A bit of a cop-out. By making it so her entire career is based on lies and other people's mistakes negates any she herself made.
Also its rather freaky to think that the worst mistake of your life that caused an utterly miserable worse-than-death situation for a whole bunch of people that you cannot tell their living families about out of fear and shame... that all of it was someone else's deeds and the universe just dumped all that shit on you and made you think you were to blame is horrifying.
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>>187461767
Is time travel and temporal shenanigans ever NOT a cosmic horror?
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I can't believe that Gaster was really the one who declared war on monsters, enacted the barrier, declared war on humanity, killed six kids, let six children die by abandoning them to be killed by Gaster, reset a billion times because he was bored, friendzoned us during his date, attempted to murder Frisk, preformed horrific science experiments on people and made us spill ketchup all over out hamburger

what an asshole
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I just thought about something...
When the fuck would the human/monster war have taken place?

Cuz think about it: Chara was the first human in 201X. There's been Six humans between her and Frisk, and "a long time" since the last one before Frisk.

So setting aside how long "A long time" is, it still suggests that the Human/monster war was closer to 201X than the year Frisk fell in (unless the gap between the war and Chara was greater than all the other gaps combined).
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>>187463629
The Human Monster was was in medieval times, anon.
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In regards to why Alphys is often so I hated I think its a combo of her personality being what it is and the fact that her actions are the prime reason why Asriel is stuck n a worse than death situation. Add on the fact that shes literally a fraud and had no business doing what she was doing with DT and you can't even use the it was an accident excuse. She was unqualified and experienced with working with souls and as a result a lot of horrible shit went down
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>>187461767
>Also its rather freaky to think that the worst mistake of your life that caused an utterly miserable worse-than-death situation for a whole bunch of people that you cannot tell their living families about out of fear and shame... that all of it was someone else's deeds and the universe just dumped all that shit on you and made you think you were to blame is horrifying.

Wait a sec, are you suggesting that her accomplishments were actually Gaster's and it's just that his erasure reshuffled history into piling it on her?
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>>187463629
>>187463858
Long enough for humans to forget fact as myth.
Long enough for humans to believe monsters are just a story.
Although not long enough that humans believe there isn't something at all strange in the mountains.
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>>187464072
I'd hate her so much less if I could just fast-forward through her constant messaging in Hotland.
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>>187462046
There's temporal shit causing problems and then there's existential mind-fuckery.
>>187464072
Plus she can't properly science for love or money. "I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS ISN'T HELPING SO I'LL JUST POUR A FUCK TON OF THIS WEIRD RED STUFF INTO EVERYONE!"
I keep saying Alphys is more of a tech-geek than a chemical/biological scientist. She made an elaborate prosthetic suit that can shift between different stages. That's impressive in itself. But noooo "I, uh, I made a killer robot with an artificial soul!"
>>187464087
That was in response to >>187461247 who did make the suggestion.
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>>187463858
Oh right, I forgot about the human with a sword during the intro.

But okay, that being said, lets say the war was in 1600, just to asspull a year.
That would mean it was 400 years before a human fell in to the underground.
So if that kind of thing was SO rare (and that rarity held) that would mean that the actual game takes place around AD 48XX.

Even if the rate of humans after Chara quadrupled, that would be AD 27XX.
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>>187464087
I'm not saying it as a serious thing, but give how much of a blatant fraud Alphys is, she obviously didn't create the core or DT extractor, so its possible/plausible/funny-to-think that someone else did the various DT experiments that created monsters.
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>>187464616
You're assuming this is set in Earth rather than some sort of RPG fantasy/modern-fictional world.

You get people with swords and shit, pirates and knights and sometimes even feral wildmen/berserkers standing side-by-side in a modern city or a hypertech magic city in what should be an ancient/dark-ages world.

Still. It's definitely long enough for fact to become myth, and myth to fade into stories passed around on the playground.
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>>187464616
If I had to guess, after Chara disappeared on Mt. Ebott, kids got increasing curious about the rumors, hence the increasing frequency
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>>187464606
>There's temporal shit causing problems and then there's existential mind-fuckery.
I think that's more just people getting used to horrifying concepts.

Think about it: The oldest time-travel story imaginable. The old "I have to go fix changes to X or else person Y won't exist!"
That is cosmic/existential horror.

"Oh look. My hand is transparent because my existence is a paradox and the universe is rejecting me like a pathogen"
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>>187465134
>>187465208
These both seem reasonable.

However, within that vague timeline, its still reasonable to think the war was closer to 201X than Frisk's story.
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>>187464906
Nobody claims she created either of those though, the core is very well admitted by the followers to be Gaster's invention and nobody seems to assume Alphys had anything to do with it. DT extractor as well, Alphys pretty openly notes that she just found the blueprint.

Honestly, while she's a mess mentally and doesn't really know anything about souls, her mechanical skills are pretty damn impressive. Fitting a jetpack into a phone, dimensional box, Mettaton's body in general, building the extractor from incomprehensible blueprints to the point where it actually works, those are pretty amazing.

There's also the fact that's she's one of I guess four people, who are privy to one of the Underground's greatest secrets.
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alphys plush when
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>>187465505
Yeah, I guess that's a good point about the phone upgrades. And even if Mettaton's body was hollow or something, it still transforms.
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been a while since we had a good old fashioned lizard hating thread
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alphys did nothing wrong
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>>187465501
Enough time must have passed that the monsters slipped into being myths, if only because otherwise Mt. Ebott would be under continuous lockdown. That is, if they even knew how the barrier worked exactly.

I still think the magicians were actually somewhat on the side of monsters. Looking at how easy it would be to just kill them off, it's possible they created the barrier both to end the war, but also preserve the monsters. Not to mention, why would the monsters know precisely how to break the barrier.
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>>187465898
but I love lizard
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>>187465939
alphys did a lot of things wrong but that's what makes her interesting and leaves room for character growth
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>>187465898
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>>187465898
I don't like character bashing.
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>>187464072
>and the fact that her actions are the prime reason why Asriel is stuck n a worse than death situation
God, are Asrielfags still butthurt about that? It's been 2 years. I guess crybabies of a feather whine together.
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>>187466264
is there any character this comic hasn't ruined
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>>187465505
>dimensional box
Fuck everything else, that's absurd. She should have tried smuggling all of monsterkind in a box so they could leave once Asgore obtained just 1 human soul.
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>>187466458
>It's been 2 years.
She didn't just suddenly stop being a horrible scumbag.
Why would you have to be an Asrielfag to acknowledge that she's basically the worst.
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>>187466528
Asgore and Undyne, the former hasn't even appeared, the latter only made a cameo and even that was an alternate.
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>>187465898
Bashing Alphys isn't as fun because she does that well enough on her own.
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>>187466748
Monsters are not Pokemon.
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>>187465941
Interesting theory. After all, if any humans were sympathetic to monsters, it'd be those who could wield magic. After all, who do you think taught it to them?
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>>187466774
You don't. I just think it's funny that's still listed among her horrible perversions of nature. Flowey was instrumental to freeing monsterkind, right? He served his purpose wonderfully.
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>>187467052
Pokemon literally means pocket monster in Japanese. If Alphys could fit enough of them inside a box, they'd literally become Pokemon.
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>>187467052
And there's clearly a limit to how much can fit in there. We don't know if it is possible to mass produce them or anything, creating a pocket dimension probably isn't easy.
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I get so confused when I look through pics I drew for here. At least I have to assume I drew them for here

Like this one, it's called part1, but I have a distinct lack of other parts.
I don't really know what it is, but it was probably weird
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>>187466458
So it's Asrielfags that like to shit on Alphys? I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
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>>187467183
>Flowey was instrumental to freeing monsterkind, right? He served his purpose wonderfully.
The horror of creating Flowey wasn't that he killed people. All of that business got wiped out in resets.
The horror of creating Flowey (and the amalgamates) is that they're fucked-up, gimped existences that are condemned to virtual immortality.
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>>187467462
Asrielfags seem to blame just about everyone else for their problems.
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>>187467362
It was Jerry X Undyne porn
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>>187467487
>fucked-up, gimped existences that are condemned to virtual immortality
They seem happy with their families, and we don't know if they are immortal, just that they can't be hurt by normal means.
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>>187467302
If you were a monster, would you trust Alphys to store you like that? She's the only one that can let you back out.
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>>187467487
Meh. If Flowey gets tired of living he can always jump into the nearest wood chipper.
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>>187467487
>All of that business got wiped out in resets.
Flowey dindu nuffin! Morally pure goat! Innocent goat that did nothing wrong!
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>>187467641
I've seen The Fly one too many times to trust fucking anyone with tech like that
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>>187467641
Probably? If there was a good chance of being smuggled onto the surface, I think any risk would be worth taking if you were trapped underground for that long. Or just fill it up with Whimsums as a test run. Nobody cares if they die.
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>>187467512
that's mighty upsetting
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>>187466748 >>187466748 >>187465505
I keep saying to people that there is no need for seven human souls. Just enough power to puncture a hole wide enough for everyone to walk through with their shit. The CORE is said to be able to power all of the Underground and presumably powered all of the royal scientist's experiments as well. But it still wasn't enough to reach the strength of the Barrier.
Alternately Gaster might had been trying to BYPASS the Barrier. Time-travel research could had allowed them to tunnel a way around the Barrier and end up on the other side about 5 seconds into the future. Shame that with all the temporal fuckery in the timeline's future and with parallel timelines meant that having a portal open would had risked a cascade effect by virtue of some other Time being cut to black.

>>187467054
Not... necessarily. Humans can be outright shits when they have power other humans do not. They can also be fucking angels if given the chance, too, or just meh about it all.
There is the possibility that, given how magically dense the Underground seems to be, that Monsters somehow regulate Magic like how animals and plants do the same for oxygen and carbon dioxide or nutrients in the soil. Without Monsters running around, magic... dried up on the Surface.
...
Also we have no idea if there are any magical humans still on the surface. For all we know its a late Final Fantasy style world up there with people running around casting all kinds of wizardry.
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>>187467738
Don't be dense, the post wasn't about whether he's guilty or not (he is), but that no lasting effects remain.
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>>187467872
when they start busting out the dindu meme the time has passed to give them the benefit of the doubt
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>>187467778
Goat

Goats
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>>187467616
Yeah, they're happiER with their families (as opposed to being imprisoned by Alphys).
But they're still each a writhing mass of different minds. This handwaving is retarded.

>>187467738
Wow, curb your butthurt lizardfag.
The point is that Flowey didn't cause any lasting damage.
He's still obviously a psycho (just like Alphys, who DID cause permanent damage)
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>>187467980
>The point is that Flowey didn't cause any lasting damage.
Sans would like a word with you
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>>187467754
The Whimsums do!

And anyway, I think it would work like teleportation is often depicted - you die, and a perfect copy of yourself comes out the other end. Are you willing to die so a different version of you has a happier life?
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>>187468025
Sans would agree with me. Sans uses (the player's) resets to his advantage as well.
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>>187467738
Silly anon, flowers aren't goats. Who told you that?
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>>187468127
>. Sans uses (the player's) resets to his advantage as well.
are you actually retarded?
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>>187467803
Nobody knew you could technically combine every monster soul into a human soul replacement either, so there's that.

>But it still wasn't enough to reach the strength of the Barrier.
Because one is a power plant, the other is a magical barrier, the two are apples and oranges.
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>>187468050
Don't pull that SOMA shit on me anon
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these are getting really weird

>>187467950
can never have just one
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>>187468231
[lack of arguments intensifies]
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>>187468285
What's SOMA?
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Heading off to bed in a sec. Night everyone.
>>187468050
If I wasn't told that death and cloning was involved, I'd think its just normal concept of tp.
Otherwise... fuck no. I don't care that some Other me will be alright. I'm selfish. I want ME to be already!
>>187468231
Pretty sure that's a bad joke.
>>187468272
It is an energy conversion plant. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, only changed. The plant converts heat. They'd run the risk of really fucking over Hotland's ecosystem which in turn would screw up Waterfall and then the river to Snowdin would ice over and god only knows how the people in the Ruins would handle that shitshow. I really want to continue this but its 1 am and I have to help with this thing early in the morning.
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>>187468537
>It is an energy conversion plant.
Alright, semantics it is then. Either way, it's primary function is to generate power for the Underground, I don't get how that would related in any way to the barrier, unless we're running the Ballad of Edgardo, and the barrier can be broken if you should BANZAI and hit it hard enough.
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>>187466264
can you give a link to the comic
i need to see how bad this shit has gotten since i last seen it
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>>187468868
https://illtrytobegood.tumblr.com/
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>>187468868
https://illtrytobegood.tumblr.com/

Flowey has barely even spoken in about two weeks worth of updates, the story has shifted from him to Sans and the whole "i vored and mutilated an 8 year old" pretty much got swept under the rug
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>>187468982
>>187469090
god i remember first seeing this when it was a regular flowey pot comic
hell it even had cute little comic with flowey turning into asriel for a day
now it just something completely different at this point
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>>187469392
I actually went back and re-read it form the start and it's been pretty fucked since the beginning (Flowey outright says he's left alone, unable to move in his pot, until Frisk gets home from school), but at least it was at least something that tried to do some character development for him.

It's such a fucking whiplash to look at it now, because I don't think anyone could have predicted it would go off the deep end like this. Funny enough, I've heard the artist has put the blame on their livestream, that her fans are dictating the story and that she wanted to do it differently, but I think that's complete bullshit.
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>>187469745
>I've heard the artist has put the blame on their livestream, that her fans are dictating the story and that she wanted to do it differently, but I think that's complete bullshit.
I'm tempted to use tumblr ask thing and ask the artist if they're fans are basically dictating the story and why are they letting them do that and see if they respond.
on a unrelated note here's a cute friskriel
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>>187470210
main reason I don't buy it is when there was a brief side thing about Flowey becoming a human, people asked if they were going to redo the torture scenes with human Flowey, to which the response was a cutesy "that's what fanart is for~~". I'm completely convinced they've got tons of Flowey gore and vore sketches stashed around that they're not showing just because they have a modicum of self-awareness and know people would throw a fit
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>>187470210
sounds like a weird thing, honestly.
If a person is going to be weak tea enough to let stupid fans tell them what to do, they're doing it because they don't want to piss of those fans.

This is contradicted by acknowledging your content's shittiness and blaming the fans.
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>>187470649
>>187470726
imagine what fuck they're going to do asgore.
this artist seems like a sansfag and tumblr sanfags usually shit all over asgore.
i'm not even a dadfag but i know whatever they're going to do with his character is probably going to piss me off.
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The lack of Friskfags is quite disappointing! Thread needs more fallen children!
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>>187470726
Yeah, it pretty much just screams damage control on the author's part.
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Why is this comic such a big thing compared to every other garbage fanwork that people need to handwring about it every thread?
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>>187471658
Asgore actually did already appear in one of the very first comics. He's apparently a teacher but other than that he hasn't been mentioned. Toriel hasn't really been mentioned either but I guess its kind of bullshit how she lets Frisk treat Flowey but she might just be unaware I guess?

Papyrus wasn't ruined beyond him also hating Alphys and "calling her the true monster of the Underground"
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>>187472081
>Toriel hasn't really been mentioned either but I guess its kind of bullshit how she lets Frisk treat Flowey but she might just be unaware I guess?

one of the previous updates mentioned Flowey regularly tries to eat rats and mice while Frisk is away, and if you consider the fact that he's confined to Frisk's room for most of his daily existence, that's a bit of a wtf
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>>187472192
i get it
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>>187472081
>the true monster of the Underground
So he thinks she's just great?
Seriously tho, by what logic could a monster ever consider that an insult?
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>>187474132
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>>187474838
Why do they call it a White dragon when it's blue?
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>>187475135
Bad coloring but the original one is in fact white
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>>187474838
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Good Morning folks. Chapter "Thursday" of "His Duties" is now up at AO3

>http://archiveofourown.org/works/11732460/chapters/26963958

I hope you enjoy it!
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>>187442281
Huh. Interesting.
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>>187475627
Thank you, I'm enjoying this series a lot
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>>187457871
Gnaws a little. Fanfics help soothe it. I remember the good times, how little there was.
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>>187458014
beetus
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>>187462195
>Topping
I laughed
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>>187474838
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>>187466870
Sometimes nonexistence is preferable.
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>>187471667
I agree
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>>187475627
Please continue to update this series, it's really good!
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>>187477789
>>187476095
Thank you! Rough draft of the final part should be up on pastebin today or tomorrow, and then it will go to AO3 later this week.
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Frisky Nipple Pinchy
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this goat
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Characters fighting and/or sparring!
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>>187478741
Is a very compelling character. As is his father. His mother has the potential to be compelling, but the text of the game does not avail of this effectively and it is better explored in fanworks.
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>>187478741
i love him
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>>187478763
this is technically combat
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>>187478741
needs a smooch on snoot
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>>187478741
Is fucked forever and ever and ever and ever and anons love will never ever be enough to save him
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>>187478741
Needs a hug.
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>>187478763
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>>187480673
I'm here to chew ass and kick gum, and I'm all out of ass!!
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>>187458593
>Alphys crying
Harsh
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>>187478763
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>>187481307
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>>187478763
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>>187478763
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>>187480812
>chew ass
Sounds painful.
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2 kool 4 skool
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Ok how do I start a new game after the genocide route?
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>>187482949
Wait like 5-10 minutes, A text box will appear giving you the option to start.
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Good employer-employee relations!
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Oh...
H-hey there a-anon...
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>>187484414
Asriel you appear to have contracted Amortosis, an excess buildup of love. I prescribe two chill pills and a cold shower.
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>>187484703
I can't believe you'd drug Asriel and then get him naked
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>>187484875
Who said anything about naked? Wet clothes will keep him colder for longer and help prevent another buildup until the pills take effect.
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>>187486165
I see Ness brought along a friend to watch his trombone performance.
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>>187471667
Frisk is definitely the cutest undertale.
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>>187486972
I beg to differ!
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The spider a mad
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>>187489470
She's grounded in her web for misbehavior and has to endure her mom trying to seduce anyone who tries to visit her.
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>>187490850
I haven't seen this adaptation of The Thing yet
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>>187490926
Clue's in the filename anon
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>>187491031
Ah, I completely forgot about that movie
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asriel is for cute
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chara is for rude
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>>187491852
>not letting Frisk sleep right by your crotch

This is why you'll lose her to Monster Kid, Asriel
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Frisk is for love.
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>>187493348
Chara is for LOVE
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alphys is nerd
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Chara
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>>187484414
I'd gamble he wants a hug
right?
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Is Undertale good? Or is it just more edgy shit?
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>>187494158
its only edgy if you decide to kill all the monsters.
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>>187494158
It can be as edgy as you want it to be. I took it edge-free.

Interesting bullet hell gameplay
Compelling characters
Says interesting stuff about vidya in general
Excellent soundtrack
Rooted in Earthbound sensibilities to an extent, if that's your fancy
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>>187494158
It's good, and unless you deliberately act like a complete edgelord it's the opposite of edgy.
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>>187458593
Oh my. Didn't expect a cute dom Mettaton.

>>187458890
More like Undyne was trying to beat the shit out of him. There's no sex with them in the doujin.
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>>187441603
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>>187441603
>>187496432
Found it.
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>>187496432
>>187496548
Holy shit, that's gonna give me diabetes.
Thanks for finding it. I was curious about it as well.
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>I only have to use two fans instead of three now
Are you ready for best seasons, /utg/.?
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>>187497428
I haven't seen outside of work in months, it's all the same to me.
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>>187497428
>There was literally only one officially hot day in the entire summer in here where the temperature rose to 26 C.

I don't know anon. I feel like this one barely started and it's over already. It's going to be getting really cold in my apartment again and it can be pretty annoying at times.
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Gonna replay Undertale tonite wish me luck
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>>187499627
Good luck
Remember: if you die in real life, you die in the game
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Would you still love your fave if the were 8 and the William Tell overture played wherever they went with no way to turn it off, even when they were trying to sleep
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>>187499660
Thanks I'll hold off my death until I have SAVED everyone.
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>>187454118
Where'd he run off to?
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>>187500213
I'd buy him big fluffy earmuffs
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>>187501260
I can be the earmuffs!
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>>187504738
Eh, Sans is still too normal looking. This is the dance of his people.
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>>187489470
Hot
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why is asriel so for fug?
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>>187508646
get this shit outta my face
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>>187471658
Wait, why do you care what a shitty tumblr comic artist does to your favorite character? Why are you even still reading this garbage?
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>>187472192
Man, Undyne must really like pussy
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>>187478763
What is this a drunken gay bar fight?
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What if Docu fell into the underground?
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>Certain species of fish are known to change sex when needed.
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>>187486165
Boys shouldn't wear dresses
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>>187511747
Shyren's big new dick!
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>>187512014
Good thing she's not a boy then
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>>187512318
Then explain the penis
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>>187512134
Aaron's new muscular pussy flexing around your dick!
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rip utg
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>>187514265
We're not dead.
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>>187447362
Look at the picture anon. Poor lizard is so sensitive, just touching her there with your fingertip drives her crazy
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>>187446681
Lizards don't have boobs
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>>187449274
But MK and Frisk are girls
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>>187515092
Says you
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>Reading the Artbook
>So many things that went unimplemented but could be added in updates
>Instead we get nothing
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>>187516174
River person was really post TP Asgore the entire time...makes you think
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The tragic origin of Doggo's feline racism. aka a sneak peak.

"But boss, you don't understand! He's a c-"

"Enough."

He hadn't shouted or looked angry. He had shifted his posture however, and the slight change in his body language had the desired effect. Doggo actually stepped back, his tail visible between his legs. Asgore's voice was now stern.

"I am disappointed, Doggo. The Royal Guard may not exist any more, but surely you remember its oath? To put the needs of other monsters before your own? And to treat them equally?"

Doggo whined. This shattered Asgore's tough veneer immediately, and the sternness melted away.

"I do not understand." he said patiently. "Why does he upset you like this? I saw him this morning, and he knows his way around food. Even if he does not care for it. Is it merely his appearance?"

Doggo struggled with how to express himself. It was like he was grappling with the legacy of a dozen Floweys.

"My... my grandpa. He went to a restaurant owned by that- that guy's grandma. And she tried to charge him for a Cinnabun he didn't order, and they argued, and she s-said... 'I'd expect nothing l-less from such a... such a... BAD BOY'!"

Doggo howled loudly and buried his face in his paws, awash in agony of the family shame. Asgore let him sob it out, knowing he'd force himself calm shortly.

"I see. That must have truly upset him." he said kindly. "But I must ask. Has he ever said anything like that to you?"

"N-never gave him the chance. I didn't want to be called-"

"Well then, surely you do not wish to hold his grandmother's actions against him if he has not wronged you? We all have a duty to treat people on their merits, not their ancestors'. Give him a chance tomorrow. If it turns out he shares her views, I shall inform him that you are, in fact, a very good boy."

"...sure, boss."

Asgore petted him, and his tail wagged a little. Accepting defeat, and perhaps looking cleansed after baring his soul, he slinked off.
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>>187516174
Is that Toriel's mu-mu? The one she stopped wearing after she thought everyone was calling her a cow?
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>>187517332
Why do people always draw living Gaster with a droopy eye?
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>>187517034
I can't believe that Burgerpants comes from a family of racists...athough there was that time he shit talked the ghosts and called them all inbred hicks so I guess it fits Someone post the comic. I don't have it saved
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>>187517507
Because the mystery man sprite has one, probably..
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>>187518668
I always assume the eye and the face slots were damage from the accident. Those are ways a skull might crack under pressure.
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I wanna cuddle and fall asleep with Gaster!
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Gaster!
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>>187519227
Looks more like the way the amalgamates are melted.
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>>187519726
In a 240p monochrome sprite, is there a difference between the two?
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>>187520032
Well sure. Fractures cause bone to break, not droop.
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>>187512664
>made Tem draw Aaron
>Tem hates horses and muscles
What a shitty dog.
>>187516174
>that shirt
River Person and Asgore must had gotten them from the same junkpile.
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>>187520573
>What a shitty dog.
She got an entire village advertising her.
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>>187520476
His head is still round, and his feet are not in a puddle at the bottom.
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>>187520839
uhhh... so?
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>>187520997
Those would be visuals of melt.
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>>187520836
I said dog. Tem is clearly a cat.
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>>187521606
Then why does Dogsong play in her shop?
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>>187521606
>>187522023
Also, to the point, I was saying Toby isn't a shitty dog because her PUT IN a whole village for Temmie.
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>>187522098
>gaster will never swallow you whole
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>>187522208
Begone shit fetish!
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>>187523742
Wait, do you mean that its a shitty fetish, or are you referring to the fact that people with vore fetishes are technically dreaming of becoming shit?
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>>187523913
Yes
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Hugging, kissing and cuddling my favorite!
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Question: When people talk about bad shit that Toriel did, what is that referencing?
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>>187524886
Nice
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>>187524667
Letting the human children leave the ruins without even coming with them to protect them, leaving Asgore to run the kingdom instead of doing anything to improve matters in any way, or fireballing most of her family
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>>187524667
Leaving the kingdom to its own devices despite being one of its rulers, leaving the fallen to their fates once they left the ruin and being rather high and mighty in TP. Some exacerbate these, but they're fairly valid problems the game glosses over for the most part. I still like her a lot, but the lack of comeuppance is a bit jarring.

Though to be fair, a lot of the neutral routes are rude wake-up calls for her.
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>>187525371
Technically Chara's with you in some way/shape/form so she's fireballing her entire family. It's actually kind of impressive.
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>>187524667
leaving the throne with a woobie (she wore the pants and the whole underground knows it), and straight up telling asgore he couldve just took the one soul and murder some dudes and open the gate instead of giving false hope, putzing around until some humans happen to come down.

hes a nice guy, but dude is NOT fit to be a leader. he becomes a gardener which suits him better. but toriel has no qualms about going up and napping some souls. lady is secret hardcore bitch.
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>>187522023
Because "Tem Shop", "Tem Village", and "Dogsong" are all songs for creator avatars of Undertale. And all have a strong overlap with "Enemy Approaching".
>>187522180
Ah, must had misread something. Whoops.
>>187522098
god has forsaken us
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Temmie is canonically a dog cat thing
http://temmiechang.tumblr.com/faq
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>>187525645
>but toriel has no qualms about going up and napping some souls
Then why didn't she just do it herself? She's a boss monster too.
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>>187525371
>>187525554
Yeah, but if she actually accompanies the children, she'd end up effectively waging war on her kingdom (and for what? The human can't escape without killing her husband)
The reason she left was because of the policies of her kingdom, which were set by the king. She likely offered protection to ALL the fallen humans, but they made their choice.

>>187525645
>telling asgore he couldve just took the one soul and murder some dudes and open the gate
See, this I really don't get: If human souls are persistent, wouldn't that mean that he Asgore or Asriel/Chara could just find some floating around? Or find people who are dying?
I don't see why the "escapee super-monster plan" would need to involve killing people directly.
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>>187526010
Toriel has a lot of "well why didn't YOU do x thing that would have made everything better for everyone including yourself" moments that never get addressed. Its kind of annoying
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>>187526239
Someone should slip a few handfuls of buttercups into her next recipe.
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>>187526209
>. She likely offered protection to ALL the fallen humans, but they made their choice.
They also were most likely literal children. Good people don't abandon children to die when they have it within their power to stop it. Asgore and the rest of the monsters at least had his people to think about and drive his actions (Mettaton had a vague goal to protect the human race athough it was mostly greed on his part but still). Toriel just didn't bother because of her own personal hang ups, which doesn't make her a bad character or means that you shouldn't like her but its a thing that is kind of fucked up
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>>187526352
go chug some buttercups again
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Seems like Toriel positioned her home to prevent her fellow monsters from sneaking out of the hole that humans fall into. At the very least to try to intercept the humans before something happens to them.
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>>187526352
Odds are she'd be baking for someone else.
tfw you unintentionally poison someone.
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>>187526612
I think that's the same house that she, Asgore, and Asriel lived in before Chara fell.
Hence why there's a kid's bedroom but only one bed.
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>>187526478
When you get down to it, all of the Undertales are moral refuse. Except for Papyrus, who is perfect.
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>Papyrus will never cut up hotdogs for your bowl, just to make you happy.
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>>187526736
A good chef always takes the first bite.
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hard mode idea
>You land the final blow on Papyrus, knocking his head off
>either kill sans before or after mettaton neo
>Alphys knows that if she gives up now, she'll be letting everyone down
>She finds papyrus, the skeleton barely clinging to life as a skull, only still there by sheer determination
>She uses all of her materials, making Papyrus an unbreakable robotic body
>the time draws near, and the monsters are herded at the barrier, waiting in fear as the king denies the human to go any further
>a gust of dust blows by, and the human makes it's way to the barrier
>Papyrus and Alphys are defending the monsters, and the souls are powering Papyrus suit
>The battle consists of Papyrus trying to get you to spare him and stop at first
>Alphys and the other monsters are begging him to kill you, eventually breaking the skeleton as he unleashes a hellish onslaught of bones, missles, gaster blasters, lightning, and metal fists smashing down.
>you either survive the barrage until his suit overheats, leaving only his skull to be turned to dust and the other monsters cowering at your will
>or papyrus beats you into the brink of death, and steals the human soul, revoking you of your determination and leaving you, a demonic husk, to be crushed easily under his surprisingly stylish boots, without remorse
>him and Alphys are left to command what's left of monster kind as they find themselves out of the underground.
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>>187525645
>hes a nice guy, but dude is NOT fit to be a leader.
I don't see this. He made a bad decision, but that doesn't mean he's incompetent. He's a people person more than a policy guy, but he inspires enough loyalty to get others to follow him. And as much as he pussyfoots around killing humans, when one is before him he does the job. He can follow through on what he thinks needs to be done, even if it shreds him afterwards.
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>>187526763
Y'know, Papyrus is the only monster that doesn't kill you if he wins his fight.
Even Toriel can accidentally kill you.

>>187526478
You can argue its fucked up to let the children leave, but you can just as easily say it was fucked up to try and destroy the exit and rob you of your choice.

She offers protection to each fallen human, which is already a violation of her kingdom's laws, but if they refuse that, she's not going to help kill her own husband.

Her own conflict about that impossible situation is why she's so easy to kill.
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>>187526763
That son of a bitch beat me to an inch of my life! Because he was so desperate for POPULARITY that he didn't seem to care that he was beating the shit out of some random kid!
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>>187527271
Why is Alphys holding a dildo drill?
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>>187527379
>he didn't seem to care
He spends literally the entire fight caring
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>>187527409
that's all she had left after she built the suit.
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>>187527379
Yeah, but he didn't kill you. Everyone else kills you. Even Toriel can kill you. He just locks you in his shed. You even have full HP.
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>>187527271
I do not like this.
Granted this feels more Genocide Path than anything else...
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>>187527535
And Undyne's dead, so nobody will ever use it again. Alas, what a shame.
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>>187527574
You get full HP from shutting your eyes in bed. I'd say sleeping but you don't seem to get actual sleep.

Also Papyrus isn't the only one who doesn't kill you. All the Monsters you run in the towns, Hotland's paths, and most merchants (including Nice Cream Guy) don't even attack.
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>>187527589
I think it'd be nice if you could your knowledge of a True Pacifist run on a genocide run to open the True Lab and kill the evacuated monsters.
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>>187527848
>All the Monsters you run in the towns, Hotland's paths, and most merchants (including Nice Cream Guy) don't even attack
That doesn't count, anon. You can't show someone mercy if you never even fight them in the first place.
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>>187527848
>Also Papyrus isn't the only one who doesn't kill you. All the Monsters you run in the towns, Hotland's paths, and most merchants
A number of them talk about how psyched they are for the slaughter of humanity.
Its obvious that most people don't know you're a human.
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>>187524886
You know, it's almost impressive how no one draws Alphys' glasses accurately.
I mean, I'm not complaining, fanart-Alphys is cute as fuck. It's just interesting how overwhelmingly prevalent those huge round glasses are in fanart.
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>>187528273
They're easy to draw.
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>>187528273
Anon, Alphys' "glasses" are literally just her eyes with a connecting line in the middle.
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>>187528626
Do you think that means that her actual eyes are really really tiny and the glasses magnify them?
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>>187528750
They're not magnifying anything.
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>>187528995
Well, I just say that because I think those dots might move around within the frames.
I haven't checked her sprites or anything, so I don't know.
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>>187527352
>You can argue its fucked up to let the children leave, but you can just as easily say it was fucked up to try and destroy the exit and rob you of your choice.
No
Seriously stop trying to use this agurment because it just makes you look retarded. It is not anywhere near the same level to knowingly let seven children walk to their deaths when you have the power to stop it, lock the door behind them so they can't get back to the only safe space in the underground and tell at least Frisk not to come back even if they change their mind as it would have been for her to remove the option altogether. Toriel fucked up hardcore and there is no way to spin that in a postive light or as the lesser of two evils so stop trying to. You can still like her and enjoy her character but stop trying to excuse it away as something that was logical.
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ears
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Alphys's "glasses" are actually elaborate markings meant to attract mates and fool predators
Her real eyes are the dots just above her mouth
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>>187528995
That's adorably retarded
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>>187529849
Causes 'Nam flashbacks.
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>>187529961
!. ... I can't say that is stupid because Froggit exists.
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>>187529849
The story this is linked to is fun.
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how does it feel knowing that one of the posters here could be a weeb lizard?
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>>187530353
it was, but im pretty sure it's on the site that shall not be named unfortunately
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>>187530384
Kinky.
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>>187527278
he does waver his shots in his fight like toriel. he doesnt get rid of RUN option for you, its for HIM. he cant back down after all the hype, and he doesnt seem to thrilled ethier. hes a people person, and he lost two of his children already.
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What is this?
http://picosong.com/wsQTB/
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>>187530353
Does Asriel give Frisk an earjob?
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>>187529836
>knowingly let seven children walk to their deaths
>when you have the power to stop it
They're humans. Even the children can be stronger than boss monsters.
Your "Think of the children" blustering over this is ridiculous when you play a character who's capable of slaughtering literally the entire underground.

And of course you can't go back. As soon as you step out of the ruins, the whole underground knows that there's a human about.
If you get scared and flee back to Toriel, she can't protect you anymore because the whole royal guard will (eventually) get mobilized.

So I guess you're just arguing that Toriel should "Think of the children" by either dying or killing alongside them. Good for you.
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>>187530542
>http://picosong.com/wsQTB/
Japanese Undertale shitposting memery in the form of song.
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>>187530630
>Even the children can be stronger than boss monsters
Tell that to six of the child-sized coffins in Asgore's basement.
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>>187530417
I saw it on AO3.

>https://archiveofourown.org/works/8072260

It is super fluffy.
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>>187530534
i meant like fight with torial
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>goatmom got lucky the other humans didn't kill her
it's kinda what she deserves if you kill her, she criticizes asgore for stopping these killing machines that probably killed a few monsters and one was even responsible for the death of their son. Yet she dies at the hands of a human, the things she thought were so innocent.
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>>187531114
Edgy; but what can you expect from a Charafag.
t.Botfag
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>>187530630
They're fucking kids and six of them are already dead. Toriel took it upon herself to protect them and completely failed. TP showed that Toriel could easily have forced Asgore to give up but she choose to not do so. Stop trying to spin Toriel as this perfect flawless charvater already because you're just making momfags look retarded
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>>187530534
He never stops though. The fight goes on until either you die or he is defeated. And I'm not sure what your last point means.
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>>187531187
I prefer fishfag, thank you very much.

chara was a dick who manipulated asriel and even though one can say you're the true evil, encouraging such evil is still wrong.
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>>187531454
Nice falseflagging; but I know you're a charafag.
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>>187531570
alright, sure, whatever makes you happy.
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>>187531114
humans dindu nuffin
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>>187531626
You confessed to being one in a previous thread; it's very obvious to identify who you are.
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>>187530534
With that said, Toriel really isn't any better, unless we ignore that half the Neutral endings depose her from the throne. By all accounts the two of them worked best together as cohesive unit.
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>>187512134
>2017
>Still no futa Shyren autofellatio content
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>>187530808
No cure for stupid.

Have you ever considered how extreme a step it is for Toriel to destroy the exit of the ruins?
She's destroying her one hope for ever returning to where she belongs. And that's literally the ONLY way to stop a human from escaping unless she's going to literally imprison them.
So quit your judge-y moralist bullshit.
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>>187531570
You thought anon was the charafag...
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>>187531432
he doesnt think he has a choice, thats why talking to him doesnt stop the fight but makes it easier the more you do. he lames his shots and becomes piss easier to dodge, like its your fault if you get hit.

also i meant asriel and his adoptive child chara. he lost them both in a short time.
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>>187532002
So what you're saying is that Toriel but her own feelings and self intrest before the lives of seven children? And you're saying this was the good thing to do?

Jesus man look at what you wrote
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>>187532002
>She's destroying her one hope for ever returning to where she belongs
Isn't that even worse? Selfishly trapping the rest of her race underground because she wanted to play mommy again? She even knows that the ruins is no place to raise a human child.
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>>187531372
>This character had reasonable motivations
>"OH SO YOU'RE SAYING THEY'RE PERFECT"
Not even a "momfag", I just understand the characters better than you.

I'd love to hear what you would have done in her position, cuz confronting fucking Asgore is called a coup.
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>>187532315
>cuz confronting fucking Asgore is called a coup
Didn't stop her from doing it on TP.
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>>187532256
When those children are suicidally stupid, there's only so much you can do.
Why don't you grow up a bit, and maybe you'll understand :)
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>>187532315
I would have not let seven children get themselves killed when I could stop it.

>>187532285
It's canon that Toriel doesn't care about the monsters send hates them. See her Genocide speech
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>>187532535
>It's canon that Toriel doesn't care about the monsters send hates them
wewlad

what a race traitor bitch
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>>187532228
I know that, but how does that refute what I said about him being a people person?
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>>187532429
She came there to stop the fight (even if it meant stopping the human).

>>187532535
>If I could stop it
And doesn't it say something about your god complex that you think you could have.
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What if there was a Trash monster that was shaped and voiced by Danny "Trashman" Devito?
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>>187532473
Yeah the thing you can do is not let themselves get murdered when you can stop it, but I guess that would take being a good parent or person.

>>187532617
Toriel literally had the option and means to do so. That's the entire point of her fight and it's what she was literally going to do

Fuck off with this falseflagging shit. I refuse to believe anyone is this dumb
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>>187532535
>See her Genocide speech
What, you mean the one where she chuckles like a maniac who just lost her marbles?
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>>187532473
Ahhh, passive-aggressiveness. The last bastion of a momfag who's run out of tricks.
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>>187532708
Then it would be really weird given that monsters only speak out loud twice.
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>>187532708
I duuno, but in my mind Sans is voice by Jason Alexander.
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>>187532831
Nah, you're just a shitter and its gotten funny seeing how mad you get.

>>187532817
I'm sorry you feel that way, but characters are better when they aren't Mary Sues (Momma Sues?)
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toriel is a nice lady, and a good mom, she means well.

but she also selfishly wants to be a mom, and wants to be one so much she is blind to the fact that humans, the people who sent them to the underground and killed her son, aren't really that innocent.

Asgore is simply doing what gives his people hope, and what keeps them safe. They challenge asgore so that they can leave by themself, you are the only human who even tries to free them all. The fallen humans probably had no intention of doing that and just wanted to leave. but that doesn't erase the fact that he kills them, and maybe was hiding the fact he could've opened the barrier himself and negotiate with the humans.

both of them have their faults, okay?
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I'm gonna give your fave a migraine!!
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>people unironically think Toriel is a good parent or guardian
I mean, have you SEEN what happened to her kids? One's a soulless demon flower and the other's literally a demon.
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>>187532831
Nah they still haven't started calling Asgore a dadfag and saying only dadcucks could find a flaw with Toriel's actions. That's when you know they've given up even pretending not being full of shit
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>>187533034
Look man, we can't just have you run around with a neutral opinion like that. Pick a characterfag and scream at them for 50 posts, that's how we do things around here. Now fall in line and don't let me catch you trying to be reasonable again.
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>>187533034
How many times do I need to repeat myself: all goats are trash.
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>>187533023
>When they aren't Mary Sues
You're the one saying Toriel didn't make a single mistake and that it was cool of her to let little kids be murdered and not even bother to try and stop it once the children stopped wanting to play house
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>>187533097
>Still trying to argue that Toriel is responsible for stupid, suicidal kids.
I understand if you think she's annoying, but it doesn't quite go as far as, "Making everyone suicidal".
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Post jokes of both verbal and practical varieties!
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>>187533097
It was Asgore's fault for eating a poorly baked flower pie in the first place and not recognizing that Chara was poisoning themself with the help of Asriel with the same thing that made him sick
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>>187533331
all undertales are trash, except jerry
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>>187533468
Now you're getting it.
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>>187533418
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>>187533371
>You're the one saying Toriel didn't make a single mistake
No, you said that about me because you're asspained and only smart enough to argue with strawmen.

Your argument is basically, "Who cares that these kids are suicidally retarded, SOMEBODY should have done SOMETHING!" even though you can't say what.
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>>187533456
Yeah that was a pretty big oversight on his part. Too bad Toriel didn't notice either.
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>>187533468
>>187533545
JERRY!
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>>187533456
It was Gaster's fault that he preferred science instead of providing psychiatric help for children, so they could be cured from being children.
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>>187533393
They were kids, Anon. Please please never become a perent because you're a fucking idiot and they'll be dead before they're 10
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>>187533694
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>>187533747
>Please please never become a parent
Yeah, you're right, its much better that actions never have consequences.
After all, why wouldn't you want to raise more feckless millennial shitters like yourself?

Besides, Toriel offered to play mommy for them and they REJECTED her.
By what insane logic is she responsible for them at all?
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>>187533649
>Can't say what
Blow up the door so they can't leave
Gone with them to confront Asgore (reminder that this one actually worked, shame she waited tell kid seven to ty it!)
Actively worked within the system to cause public opinion about the humans to be more positive and end the war by the choice of the majority instead of just fucking off to the ruins to bully froggits and be depressed about how ineffective she is

These are things she should have done instead of abadoning them to die
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>>187533059
You will not. I will protect my favorite.
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>>187532613
oh, i meant how hes a nice guy and not a cold blooded child murder. here you come, the last human (hes never seen you, probably doesnt even know you are literally a child), and not only you not much older than his kids when they died but you look alot like one of them. and here he is, a parent, forced to murder a child for a greater good. dude would rather die in the fight towards the end of talking to him and give you his soul.
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>>187534085
>>187533649
Toby is bad at programming. He wouldn't have been able to program a toriel follower. Bam. Stop fighting now.
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>>187533990
The fact that she's trying to take care of them, devoted her life to helping them, is a fucking queen and we can assume considers herself a good person?
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I'm suddenly reminded of that fic where Jerry turns Undyne into a slut with his smelly dick and makes her choke on it.
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>>187534294
It was okay. It turned out to just be a Jerry sex fantasy at the end.
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>>187534279
Anon this honestly sounds like you want Toriel to go down the Misery path of being kind and supportive. Give it a couple years and she'll break their shins if they miss calling her mommy the requisite amounts per day.
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>>187534185
It's still all rooted in the original decision to start the war. I don't think that means he's a bad ruler in general. Just not the one suited to the situation he landed himself in.
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>>187534279
>>187534531

>>187534253
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>>187534085
>Blowing up the door
Yeah, of course, why wouldn't she destroy her only chance of escaping the ruins over a suicidal child she barely knows?
It makes perfect sense why it would take a number of such children for her to be driven to those lengths.

>Gone with that to confront Asgore
The child is either staying in the underground, or they're going to kill her husband (Barring Flowey shenanigans that she doesn't know about)
Escorting them doesn't change that. What the fuck do you think she could do? Try to get the human to stay some more? Great plan, retard.

>Actively worked within the system
She's in a society where people are physiologically affected by their emotional state, and you think she should just "Advocate a policy of hopelessness"?

This is all so stupid.
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>>187534531
You're an actual sociopath aren't you? You would be cool with letting a group of seven year olds play with guns after you told them to not to? Because that's pretty much what you're saying Toriel did
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>>187533990
I can almost picture Toriel herself saying this after having a few too many.
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>>187534279
>My definition of "Good person" is the only one
Yep. Good women kill their husbands or imprison children.
Makes perfect sense.
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>>187534705
Do you ever once consider that one of the kids might end up snapping thanks to her reclusive care and just fucking shanks her in the middle of the night? Whose fault is it going to be then?
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>>187534702
I like how in trying to make sure Toriel did nothing wrong you've actually made her out to be a much worse person than even I thought she was.
My version of Toriel was an extremely flawed person who made some shitty choices because of her own personal flaws and hang ups but your version of Toriel is a completely unlikable bitch that doesn't deserve to adopt Frisk let alone even be around children since she clearly doesn't care about them at all.
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Shitting on a character is not proper discussion.
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>>187534705
If they're not my kids and they're already waving the guns around, do you expect me to get shot just to help a few retards?

Sorry we don't turn off our reasoning ability just because children are involved.
(This is why kids need dads: To reign in retarded, emotional mothers)
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>>187535136
>implying it's not the only kind of proper discussion
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>>187534978
>I like how in trying to make sure Toriel did nothing wrong
There you go with strawmen instead of arguments.

Y'know, you are anonymous. You could just slink off in shame when you have no arguments rather than embarassing yourself further.

To be clear tho, nobody gives a fuck what you consider a "bad person".
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>>187535204
Anon I agree with you, but I think you're going a little off-track here. This conversation is about Toriel, and why she's not so great of a person.
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>>187534879
When your option is to either let a children die or keep them from preforming the thing that will kill them, the good and moral thing to do is stop them.

You don't just tell a kid that's playing with a gun to stop and then shrug it off as oh well I tried when they ignore you, even if its not your kid. That's fucked up and an assholeish thing to do

>>187535204
>do you expect me to get shot just to help a few retards?
I expect you to do everything in your power to not make sure a kid fucking dies, yes. Are you really this selfish?

>>187535345
You literally said Toriel letting the kids leave was the right choice to make.
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>>187534375
really, I thought it just ended with Undyne dissapearing?
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>>187535396
Its an analogy. Toriel is under no obligation to fuck over herself or murder her husband just so she can fit the requirements of being "A good person".

What she did was basically all she could.
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>>187535250
It's not. Proper discussion is not "Let's just call a character shit in as many ways as we can to incite anger in others" Discussion actually involves intelligent forethought and stays away from shit slinging.
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>>187535250
Not really, since it's always full of boring circular arguments. One side calls a character shit, the other defends them. First side might bring up reasonable points, but also immediately claims the other side to be dindus. Other side retaliates, inevitably overshooting things because prior argument just wanted to rouse them. And then it's just back and forth, bringing the same arguments, while insulting each other, each other's imagined or real character affiliating, and/or general intelligence, until both of them get tired.

The general calms down for a while, then someone inevitably starts it up with another character, and we're back to square one. Nobody learns anything, because nobody wants to, and both sides start impersonating each other to heighten the tension. It's just a continued exercise if futility, because the notion of "I agree, except for XYZ" have completely left the sphere of ideas. It's either total annihilation or shitpost central till the morning light shines in.
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>>187535519
No, it ended with Jerry's fantasy of having an Undyne sex slave, but then he is brought out of his fantasy at the end.
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>>187535565
>>What she did was basically all she could.
But its wasn't and you aren't even arguing that it was. The most she could have done is blown up the door but you're saying she selfishly put herself before a bunch of kids and that somehow this is okay and good?

You can agure that it was an understandable thing to do but it wasn't good and it wasn't moral at all. It makes Toriel a scumbad
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>>187535413
>Are you really this selfish?
>How dare you not being willing to die on the spot for children you don't know and are actively killing themselves
This has transcended from retardedness to straight-up virtue signalling.

Good luck dying pointlessly just to appease your vanity as "a good person".
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>>187535790
Why is Frisk the Ice King?
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>>187535764
>willing to die
All she had to do was blow up a door, nigger. Not go out and murder the entire monster race
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Why didn't Toriel just accompany one of the kids to Asgore herself and then tell him to cut that shit out? It's not like she faces any resistance when she does it with Frisk on TP. She just fireballs Fluffybuns offscreen and then puts the kibosh on the whole soul-abducting genocide plan.

So why didn't she just do that with number 1 instead of number 7? Surely it'd be easier to convince monsterkind to abandon the plan at the first soul, rather than the final one.

Instead she goes to watch over a bunch of flowers, which is also implied to be the grave of her first adopted human child. God, this lady's got issues.
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>>187535413
>You literally said Toriel letting the kids leave was the right choice to make.
No, I didn't. I said there were no good options, I said she did the best she could, I said what she did was reasonable, and you spazzed out about all of them.

Its sad that your strawmen have to be THIS retarded to make them dumber than you.
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>>187535638
This

I'm pretty sure it's the same 5 drama craving people too

Let's see if we can drown the alligator tears and soap opera antics out with some writing requests. Last one was pretty fun, so I thought might as well try another.
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>>187535938
>I said she did the best she could
but she didn't
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>>187535723
>Noone saw much of Undyne after that, she wasn't ever at her house, and even Papyrus could not find her. He and Alphys still hold hope of finding her, and memorials were made for her. However, life did still go on.
>It turns out that monsters like Jerry, produce some sort of, "pheromone", when they find a mate they want. It essentially takes over the mind of the mate, hypnotizing them into falling in love with the monster, and make them prepared for breeding.
>In the end, the lesson? Never be nice.

this is how it ends on the writebin one but whatever
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>>187535729
>selfishly put herself before a bunch of kids
And every other monster living in the ruins.

Oh, that's right, you're a virtue signalling little cunt, you LOVE making important decisions for everyone.
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>>187535638
So you're saying we're all Floweys trapped in an endless shitposting cycle?
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>>187536087
You're a fucking retard and a terrible person to boot. You've actually killed any respect for Toriel I had as a character
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>>187536035
>b-b-but...
Shut up.

>>187535871
And that shit would have consequences for every monster in the ruins.
But fuck it. Children, right?
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>>187536124
It's worse, because all Flowey could have endlessly argue against would have been a mirror, but we thankfully have each other instead.
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>>187536257
>You've actually killed any respect for Toriel I had as a character
This is good. You are finally making progress.
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>>187536257
Come on man, if one person is enough to do that, you had none to begin with. At least don't lie your ass off like that.
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>>187536257
>I'm a useless shitter but you've made me even MORE of a shitter
There you go again with that lack of personal responsibility.
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So why do people like Toriel again if they think shes nothing but a selfish bitch that put herself before the lives of the other monsters and the kids?

Why is she justified bitching at Asgore again when shes way more selfish and self serving then he is?
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>>187536654
She's hot and makes a mean pie
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>>187536654
>People like Toriel
>But think she's shit
You might, JUST might be talking about different people.

>>187536758
Also this. (but she's only really hot when she's off-model.)
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>>187536124
we all ether move on with our lives, come back because we are curious of whats still going on here, and/or then stay here forever.

>>187536285
right, because an anonymous image board where completely different people get accused of samefagging as each other when there is someone they dont like is so much better
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well, time to filter toriel
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It's almost like a majority of Undertale's main cast are horribly broken people and it's up to you to ignore their problems entirely, try and fix them up as best you can, or throw them all away.
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>>187536895
The people auguring in her favor are saying that she doesn't care about saving kids if it means she has to expend any sort of effort or inconvenience herself and that this is an okay thing
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>>187536974
yeah, it's almost like their interesting characters.
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https://pastebin.com/5RFm419a
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>>187536895
>but she's only really hot when she's off-model
I dunno man, I think she's lowkey thicc under that dress
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>>187537116
Kiwifarms?
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>>187537032
>she doesn't care about saving kids if it means she has to expend any sort of effort or inconvenience herself
If you do as she asks, and fight her to escape the ruins, you will kill her.
She literally dies for you.

The people who don't like her are the same people who hate their own mothers as soon as they realize they aren't perfect.
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>>187537116
You know, if they really are dedicated shitters, then they'll change their filenames and habits when they see this pastebin.
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>>187537291
I like Toriel and didn't have a mom.
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>>187537360
I mean, you had one, just not for very long. Unless you're some kind of robot.
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>>187537269
Cancer website for cancer /pol/acks.
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>>187536972
Personally, I think /vg/ needs post IDs like on /pol/. We'd see who's samefagging and who's actually responsible for the endless shitting.If it were to happen, I can almost guarantee you it's the same three of five people going around in circles. Best case scenario is that we just have three or five really arbitrarily melodramatic people. Worst case is that we've got an /a/-tier IRC shitposting cabal on our hands.
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>>187537291
I love my mom and shes a much better person than Toriel considering she never let me or my sisters kill themselves just because we didn't know any better or wanted to do something fun
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>>187537269
Autists trolling autists trolling autists. Pretty bad website. Not sure why you'd need to filter its name, though.
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>>187537182
That's just it, tho, you can't see shit thru that sheet she's wearking.
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>>187537432
That would benefit threads other than esports threads and cancers like /ksg/ so it wouldn't happen.
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>>187537116
At least a quarter of those are mine and it makes me feel proud. I mean, shit nigga, I've only been around for like a month, 2 tops.
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>>187537414
She abandoned me when I was 11 officially, but I hadn't seen her since 9, and before that I was the unwanted child. So literally I did, but I effectively had no parenting in my life.
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>>187537470
You're right. I'm sure if you started stealing her money to buy heroine, she would NEVER kick you out or anything.

After all, the world operates in absolutes and mothers must NEVER abandon children.
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>>187537504
Exactly. Who knows what she could look like underneath?
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>>187537645
>charafags taking pride in annoying the shit out of everyone
like pottery
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>>187537786
If that child was fucking 10? Yeah I wouldn't expect a mom to abandon a kid. What the fuck is wrong with you
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>>187537116
>those filenames

sheezus, these people are absolutely pathetic
I sure as hell hope they've got proxies up
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Toriel is canonically a disembodied head, hands and feet floating around a robe
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>>187537852
I'm not sure if you're using that picture as a reaction image or to demonstrate a worst-case-scenario.
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>>187537992
Can't it be both? Alphys canon wants to bang Toriel too
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>>187537918
>all this unconditional bullshit
>From someone who will undoubtedly never have children
I can't wait until the virtue-signalling tumblr generation goes extinct.
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If the other children could reset, I'm sure they all found other ways out of the ruins. Steal the key to the ruins door, sneak out while she's reading or asleep, convince her they'll be fine with words alone, break away from her during the early parts of the ruins and outrun her so she has no time to lock any doors or otherwise prevent them ... Stuff like that. So she may not have had a choice in the matter and by the time she found out they were gone the kid could already be gone without a trace.
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>>187537470
That sounds like someone with mommy issues would say.

>>187537852
You mean Toriel is a chubby qt?

>>187537919
At least one of them was caught phoneposting.

>>187511727
I'd tell him to stop wasting his talent on foot fetish garbage.

>>187538074
Nerdy demon!
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new bread?
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>>187537861
We'll erase this place one way or another.

>>187537962
You think that'll stop people? Rayman porn exists for a reason.
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>>187538193
Do you have the yeast?
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>>187538147
>he thinks its okay to abandon a young child to die
>>187538154
Frisk is 8 tops
>>187538190
>That sounds like someone with mommy issues would say.
someone with mommy issues would be happy that their mom didn't let them die as a child?
Well damn man looks like most of the human race has mommy issues! idiot
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>>187538307
>he thinks its okay to abandon a young child to die
meanwhile
>This cunt would willingly raise the anti-christ
Oh, what's that? Retarded absolutes don't sound so good, anymore?
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>>187538074
The best way to kill Undyne, for sure.

>>187538190
She probably eats a lot of pie, so yeah.
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>>187538058
well yeah
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>>187538297
no
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>>187538193

NEW
>>187538491
>>187538491
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>>187538439
>the anti-christ
what the fuck are you even talking about? Why are momfags so fucking dumb. Just admit you give zero shits about the character and only give a fuck because you want to fuck them already
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>>187538307
>Frisk is 8 tops
No 8 year old flirts like that. Frisk has gotta have blood pumping... somewhere.
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>>187538452
It's actually funny. You'd have a hard time finding someone in the underground Alphys doesn't want to fuck
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>>187538553
>ignores the point
>implying momfag
There you go with the desperate strawmen.
Just admit you're frothing with emotion and can't make a coherent argument beyond, "UR UH BAD PARSON!"
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>walks away to make dinner
>shit went down
Damn, I missed it.

>>187538625
I have a cousin whose 5 year old kid flirts with everyone. Gives them flowers (torn up from the garden) and (Hershey) kisses. It makes me laugh when he tries to use bad pick-up lines.
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momfags, when will they ever learn
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