/scg/ /edg/ Elite Citizen: Star Dangerous General #196

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First for fidelity

>>187397456

come on niggas

>regular mount
>pylon
>autonomous turret
is this the biggest solo ship in the game? That's the 400$ gimmick?

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>>187399181
should have attached the pic I guess

>>187399181
Maybe.
People speculate it needs a remote turret operator but who the fuck knows what that means.

There's no NMS in the OP.

What are you guys trying to pull here/

>>187399181
The 600? The turrets are remotely controlled, not automatic. You can probably slave the front one to the pilot, considering it's mounted below the cockpit, but the rear one is gonna need another crew member.

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Space is fun
No mans sky is fun
Hello games is fun

>>187399831
nms's release sure was fun

>>187399424
They're remote gimbals, like the turret on the Super Hornet. One of the other bridge stations can go into turret camera view and control it from there.

>>187399424
It means they're still likely manned turrets, just that you control them from a control station inside the ship instead of stepping into a glass blister. Basically how any other fucking space game would have handled manned turrets

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>>187399903
It sure was

>tfw money cave doesn't exist anymore and you can't stack cubes to 100

>>187400263
Can't I just cheat and give myself the money? Or is that not allowed.

>>187400580
>is that not allowed.
You must ask your mom

>>187400637
I cheat with your mum all the time, kiddo.

>>187400637
She said I could. Your mom said I could too. What now?

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>>187400580
Probably

>>187400580
Yes, but that requires a trainer or save editing

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xth for best ship

>>187398845
looks awesome

where in the two hour shitfest can I find this stuff?

>>187402814
>not spesssquid

>>187402814
this image will always make me laugh
>constellation is SPACE SUPERIORITY GUYS it's meant to be BETTER
>Introducing the RSI Polaris
>promo art shows a connie getting cleaved in half

>>187402731
I just want to cheat on video games, why tf do I need a personal trainer?

>>187402814
I'm sure it will end up just as bad ass as the retailator, vanguard or Connie was promised as being...

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>>187403343
i remember thinking something similar once. maybe just more of an indicator that the larger ship in this instance is heavier-duty in every way but still, whew, yeah, bit of a bitter pill for the connies

>>187403343
>>promo art shows a connie getting cleaved in half

By a Kingship. I mean the marketing is bullshit and all but you picked a stupid picture to use as 'proof'.

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i really hope this is as modern as it gets inside with things being well thought out but the strut on the idris we just saw obscuring the vision of the helm was absolutely ghastly.

i don't think they have a lot of leash left given recent failings in deliverables and scheduling though. people will get reasonably impatient sooner or later and the cookie's gonna crumble as to whether or not CIG is worth a half shit or not

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>>187403343
This is like saying a Rebel blockade runner that got shredded by a Super Star Destroyer sucks cause it can't keep up with the other giant capital ships. They are two completely different classes, and it's fighting way beyond it's weight class.

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Which one is fancier/nicer to have? I already have cargo and exploration ships, picked up the BMM before the price increase as an upgrade token.

>>187405732
do not give cig fucking any more money at this juncture dude

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>>187405278
>people will get reasonably impatient sooner or later and the cookie's gonna crumble as to whether or not CIG is worth a half shit or not
Lol. I think you need a wakeup call. Go visit tidder and see how the cult is pardoning everything in CIG's presentation while talking about how many 600i's and Glaives they bought. CIG have a circle of ultra-deluded megawhales who they know they can get away with stretching incredibly thin.
also apparently they've started avatarfagging

>>187406061
>posting non avatars as avatarfags.
These people are so new like you they haven't even looked at their profile on the website.

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>>187406061
you fail to take into account the DER (Dad Exhaustion Rate) Theorem which models for attrition of older, perhaps more wealthy (dad whale/principle investor) players in factors of death by various natural complications, average rate of spontaneous loss of life in things such as homicide or vehicular collision, and also late-onset permanent disability that can render accounts of purchased jpgs useless and their owners no longer in a place to further invest as it may not even be useful to them any longer

eventually is the key term i'd stress, and while it's sure not to be sooner here, it will indeed come about. there won't be enough water to wash away the blood of all the boomers that died waiting for this stupid gaem.

>>187406061
>you should watch cartoons
>well i should they look more pleasant to my eye
>that's because you have a mind of a child
You got owned by a redditor.Dude how is that even possible?

>>187406061
>I think you need a wakeup call.

I think you need to stop shitposting on Plebbit just so you can brag about it on 4chins.

You aren't the first and you're certainly not going to be the last but you're certainly one of the least entertaining.

>>187405895
Don't tell me what to do faggot

So we'll most likely not get 3.0 this year? Maybe a half assed 3.0 around new-year/january just because CIG feel they have too?

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When is the next big sale?
Thinking about buying a ship upgrade or two for my friends. You.
Nothing big but you guys are suffering and deserve a little something to keep your chins up.

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>>187403792
>to use as proof
nothing but schadenfreude from me here friend, I have no agenda to push but laughing at delusional forumites. pic related is who I first think of when I see that image.

>>187404436
they realized the gladius is supposed to be dated technology and they can't come up with anything that makes that look old in comparison, so they had to scale it back instead

>>187405278
>space glass is just as tough as hull material!
>cover it in reinforcing struts anyway

>>187406061
>two idiots arguing about opinions
no one's going to take you seriously when you say "it looks like shit" with no further analysis, because that is a subjective opinion, and to others it looked fine, or even great

>>187406725
Mate, the rate at which these dads who are either retired or live a routine 9-5 office job dying off will be about as slow as Hawking radiation. CIG will be able to keep their doors open long after CR's body is converted to a biomechanical exosuit for an AI so he can keep nitpicking cabinet textures even after he's "gone".
>>187406958
>>187407156
>You think this is me
I literally just went to /new/ and clicked on the first sane looking thread I could find.

>>187408846
>A fully crewed constellation should hold off 4 to 5 hornets
How in the fuck would that ever happen?
The conny is slow as fuck compared to a hornet and the 2 turrets barely scratch the shields of any fighter, even if they hit consistently

>>187408643
thanks skellybro but we're fine, it's just that most actual /scg/ regulars have drifted off and become occasional drop ins waiting for 3.0, while the most dedicated posters currently are goons and /v/irgins come to spew their retarded drivel about how the sky is falling.

>>187409981
that post is ancient theorycrafting from before the constellation was even in AC. of course it's obvious even without actual examples that he was delusional, but there were no hard facts yet staring anyone in the face.

>>187410234
>before the constellation was even in AC
Anon...I

>>187410098
Wow now I'm just depressed.
I guess I'll be back at 3.0

>>187408643
Probably a themed sale in October for citcon and a full anniversary sale in November

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Is there an updated version of this?

>>187405675

It is possible if its near a planet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIftKRavXCg
>5:53 onwards

If you didnt watch this do yourself a favor and torrent it ASAP. Its the only star wars movie that shits badassery and whose story doesnt revolve around fags with shiny sticks.

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>>187405675
frigate vs ssd in the actual movie

>>187413212

>the cockpit of the polaris is on the front

lel

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>X Rebirth HOL demo has no limitations other than having only the HOL systems
what did they mean by this? did they just give me the game for free?

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>>187403343
>>constellation is SPACE SUPERIORITY GUYS it's meant to be BETTER
It was never sold with those words, it's just a multipurpose transport ship.
What you should be wondering is why it wasn't cleaved in half while FLEEING the biggest & most dangerous Vanduul ship it was never built to fight.

I wonder how many Polaris would be needed to harass and destroy a Kingship, a dozen at least.

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>>187402814
It is pretty cool, but I'd much rather have a gun-and-missile focused corvette that didn't waste 1/3 of its volume on a hangar. Also it looks almost for certain that the Polaris wont be able to hold the new Cutlass, rip hopes and dreams of using my CutBlack as an away team dropship.

ships bigger than connie were a mistake

>>187405732

690, 890, the starliner, the prospect and the orion are all bot ships.

Merchantman is for traders who actually play.

>>187414417
bullshit. Ships bigger than connie are where the game will get fun and be more than circle strafing and alpha strike.

>>187414417
>>187414779

He actually has a point. They can only be operated with entire orgs.

>>187414779
>roleplaying ship repairman
>fun

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>>187408643
Seconding >>187410449 Citcon will have a large but not complete sale, Nov will have everything or nearly everything.

>>187410098
Hey man speak for yourself, some people here only have have a small ship or two I'm sure, I'm not one of them, but in my Org the guys most excited for SC are all poorfags with nothing More that auroras and mustangs.

>>187414879
Caterpillar,Retaliator and Starfarer are bigger then the Constellation and don't require orgs to be operated.

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>>187414395
its 32 s3 missiles and like fourteen individual fairly large guns seem reasonably substantial for a very armament-focused vessel. that's to say nothing of the twenty eight max size torpedos the thing might indeed be able to shit out. I think it would be a daunting platform to see hovering over even the ground as three to five or the turrets will all have pretty good arcs on people coming in from a ways off and we've no idea of the articulation that's going to be afforded to the remote-controlled highest-size nose mount.

not having a hangar would hamstring how cool the ship can potentially be and would butcher its possible scope of usage for... even more armaments when it has so many to begin with

how many guns is enough anon? the thing might not be good for anything but strictly space control past a point if it's so coated. another thing to consider is the polaris' stated relative high speed for a capital vessel atop the immense torpedo hold. the higher-risk strike runs than the little rsi corvette might end up getting to execute will be far cooler than just drifting a tub coated in massive guns around

this said there might still be a niche in more raw firepower that a similarly sized cap can fulfill but i don't see another cap coming in too too soon here, likely inevitable though unless they've enough vessels for the ecology they're after

the corvette actually needing to perform torpedo volleys to fully utilize its damage potential is far cooler than some nimbler capital ship that would just open up with tandem sts gun mounts or some shit and i don't feel that this can be debated effectively due to the complications it introduces to the scope of work the polaris will fill and exactly how sick and nerve-wracking a real proper strafing run will be for probably everyone on board

>>187414879
Thats the point dude, It's an MMO, you're not meant to play it entirely solo.

>>187415605
Its largest guns are S5s, the Same as a StarG, which is a fuel tanker.

>Hangars are automatically cool, and not having one is uncool.
An unqualified opinion. I would much rather have that space be modular so I could put what I wanted in it to customize the function of the ship, rather than putting a ship in it which while flexible, is also tremendously vulnerable, If your carried ship is destroyed that hangar is literally wasted space, and the only ships small enough to be carried are all relatively fragile with limited roles, mostly straight combat. One of the reasons I had hoped the Cutlass would fit is that it is one of the few ships flexible enough to make that Hangar space valuable. A single escort fighter is of minimal value, A single additional bomber as well, either one is as likely to die before doing its job(combat power projection) as it is to actually aid you in a fight. A cutlass functioning as a multirole scout and dropship would have been quite valuable, sending teams into an area you dont want to risk the corvette or shutting cargo/supplies from the surface without going to the trouble of landing a cap ship on a planet or stations.

Multi-role skiff is of significant flexible value, one fighter, one bomber, or hyperspecialized scout like the Terrapin is of far less.

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>>187414395
Anon, you miss a detail.
If it filled the internal space, it would be vastly heavier, slower, it would have to use a bigger shield to survive and if you have to power a main canon it wouldn't have enough power for the shield, the guns and the engines.
It would be too small to protect himself from capital ship canon and too slow to escape anti-ship bomber.

You simply can't have a cheated ship.
If you want a gunboat, join us in our quest for a Drake capital (pirate) ship, with tons of turrets to protect himself from missiles and big guns for serious business.

It's so much of a niche I won't be surprised if CIG do it.

>>187408406
We might.As shitty as Gamescon was, it did show us that they're actually at where they said they were a year ago, it's just bug ridden, which we know, and they're awful at presenting. Given it's approaching a year late, and we can see that most if not all of what they said would be in 3.0 is actually present and working (when the sun is shining and God smiles), we're probably *relatively* close to 3.0. They updated their official estimate to the end of October, which is when the must fix issues will be gone following the rate they've been fixing them at recently, so it's probably a pretty good estimate at this point. It's definitely possible it's delayed into 2018, but right now it does look like they're coming down the homestretch.

>>187416926
>Hangars are automatically liberating in capabilities and facets of gameplay afforded to the ship, and not having one is inherently stymieing in this regard.

>>187415430
>>187414879
>Entire orgs.
Reclaimer requires like 5
Orion, which is 180 meters long like 5 again
Carrack 3 to maybe 7 depending.
Endeavour like 4 as skeleton crew.
The bloody Hull-E is only list as 8 and thats the size of a Javelin.

Point is that its just literal friendless autists whining that they cannot fly literally any ship in the game solo, they'll have to interact with other humans and co-operate for the large increases in power, getting back around to the oldest complaint of autists in gaming, Teamwork OP.

>>187415039
Go play Guns of Icarus, being ship repairman is fun. Being Helm is fun, Being Gunner is fun.

>>187399181
Remotely operated means you don't have to climb into a turret, so there's some kind of digital station that you will man it from.

>>187414673
How would you even bot in this game?

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>>187416926
You have a better ship than the cutlass that fit in. the vanguard.

It's more agile than the cutlass to help you against fighter, you can make a faster scout of any of the variant but one is even specialized in Electronic Warfare, another will drop your troops. As for cargo, it's not needed. The Polaris can defend itself, it can land in the wild and carry your vehicle, making it a good landing craft anyway.
The Polaris is the smallest capital ship, it might fit on the ground base we've seen even if it brim over the edge

>>187417572
Hangar means you need a second flight crew, means a greater load on maintainers, two sets of ship systems to fix. And for the space its take up, make the ship big and fat, it provides a minimal increase in firepower(Hornet/Gladiator/Sabre), or a specialized increase in utility (IE Terrapin, Herald) Where a Modular socket in smae space could be filled with a hanger if you want that, or It could be filled with systems that directly increase the power or utility of the hull, such as extra generators and more powerful shields, or an increase in sensor capability, or a big fuckoff fuel tank so you'd only have to make port once a year, or More Dakka, or a Barracks and Armory for ground troops to make it an Assault ship. My point is that a modular space would be preferable to an assigned limited space.

if the ship is going to be hard focused on Combat I would rather have a hard focused combat ship thats actually focused on Combat, IE a gunship, with weapons armor and shields enough to engage in direct combat and come out on top. The polaris as it sits now is unfocused, its not really good at anything, because it's trying to be too many things at once while not having the ability to specialize. The hangar holds it back as a fast attack ship, making it a larger slower target while making missiles runs. It's trying to be a jack of all trades but the real result is that is compromised in every role.

>>187418204
The game is meant to be 90% NPC, so I think they'll find a way
https://youtu.be/sMD-t1OjGys?t=1276

>>187418632
>Vanguard
>Better than new cutlass.
That's not even a funny meme, it's a bad joke.
Vanguard a literal shit carrying no cargo, fewer troops with less firepower and no capacity to carry a support vehicle, the Cutlass black can caryy like ten dudes, two dragonflies and extra supplies for them, in a hull with significant firepower, and even a powerfull manned turret to cover the landing and debarkation, it is a solid dropship.

>>187417618
star citizen has none of the mechanics that makes goi fun

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>>187418846
read>>187417215
You can't have your overpowered ship good against everything, and removing the hangar wouldn't improve it as a torpedo ship, it would just make it less versatile

It isn't even what make it big, the engine are spread apart for maneuverability

>>187419224
I bet you believe your cheap cutlass will be good in a fight and not a sluggish armed cargo ship.
As for weapon, look at the site
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/ships/vanguard/Vanguard-Warden#variant-matrix
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/ships/drake-cutlass/Cutlass-Black#variant-matrix
Even if the data isn't up to date the Vanguard vastly overpower the Cutlass

If you carry a support vehicle you'll carry less troops and you would need something to defend the sluggish Cutlass.
Better solution is to land the Polaris with a tank in the cargo bay (or whatever)

>>187415187
one's optimism for the project does not necessarily translate to time spent here

>>187417618
thats lame, when you can have 8 people pilot 8 ships and beat 1 ship easily

>>187420394
Even the current shit Cutlass with 2x s3 is more powerfull than any of the single s5 guns you can put on the Vanguard, vanguard has shit firepower

>>187419408
Pic needs an edit to replace the incorrent "top/bottom missile rack" on the nose with "front turret"

What are you supposed to do when you get a bounty placed on you?

When bounty hunting my turrets kept shooting for a split second when the target chaffed, and I nicked a police ship. Hurried out of there and got to a station only to get blown up and lose all the bounty money I would have made. What should I have done?

>>187420394
After some quick calculations I get 2557 gun dps for the Vanguard (plus 4 S4 missile hardpoints) and 2166 weapon dps plus 6 S3 missile hardpoints for the reworked Cutlass.
Sure, it has a higher damage output but also absolutely no utility outside of it.
Not only that, but the last time I tried it the Vanguard handled like ass, its hitbox is 50% engines and as soon as one of them gets shot off it takes a whole bunch of maneuvering thrusters with it, making combat pretty much impossible despite the claimed redundancy.

>>187423334
You should have left the system you were in and paid your bounty elsewhere. Once you have a bounty, they shoot on sight. Sometimes you can make it. Most times, you need to high wake out.

>>187423357
None of that means anything if they nerf the power output with the pipe system. You have the theoretical max, but there is no indication that either ship can deliver enough power to actually put out that much. Who knows how they will "balance" it.

https://youtu.be/FuIeKMYaIAk

Thoughts?

>>187423357
Vangard has longer range so its a good scout also can be fitted like a bomber,as a drop ship and even has e-warfare capabilities.Cutlass's only advantage is the cargo capacity.

>>187423649
I did leave that system, went two jumps away. Guess it wasn't enough. Would turning on silent running while docking have prevented them from scanning me? Or can you not dock while silent running?

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People say this isn't a cult

>>187424491
It's not?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h36Bql75H8A

>>187424453
Silent running will prevent most scans, it will not stop a scan in progress. They can still get you if you are too close, but normally you can cruise right in. Once you are through the shield and out of line of sight, you can turn silent running off to land.

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>>187424628
I've been looking for more CIG related interviews at gamescom post them if you have them.

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>>187422167

Was there not a ship sale this gamescom?

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>>187424491
This one is my favourite.

>>187425112
Only for the ships that got trading cards (Nox, Dragonfly, Ursa Rover, Prospector, Aurora LX, Glaive).

>>187425291
>Only for the ships that got trading cards
What the fuck is a trading card?

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>>187425490
They handed out cards at the gamescom showfloor both to people who played the demo. Set of 2 different cards each day, they have a QR code on them that directs you do a site where you can buy the ship that's on it.
Horrible marketing because people expect to get free shit at gamescom, but whatever.

>>187425490
CIG employees were passing out little ship collectible cards at gamescom.

>>187425768
>only people who go to gamescom should be able to buy our special ships :^)
Honestly I feel like CIG can't get any worse, and then I just remember Ben works there and see new dumb shit all the time and think 'oh wait yes it can'.

I'm fully expecting a lockbox system to be implemented (maybe even before launch).

>>187422046
>he forget the Vanguard 4x S2
Anon, if you only count the S the vanguard have 16 "S" while the cutlass only have 10 "S", turret included, pylons not included, and you forget that the Vanguard is a lot more maneuverable, at equal skill & luck the Cutlass shouldn't be able to track the Vanguard.
Really, stop glorifying it. It's just a versatile cargo ship, not an heavy fighter with miraculous cargo bay.

>>187423357
>No utility
It have specialized variants that go very well with the Polaris, and cargo is overrated for the use discussed. If you need vehicle support, just bring the damn Polaris.
No bet the Hoplite will also be a more stealthy dropship, doing something the Polaris and the cutlass can't do

Don't forget that they'll rework every ship stats of the games, it would be irresponsible to not make the Vanguard handle better since it fit everything it's meant to be.

>>187424964
Thank you anonymous

>>187426042
Strangely enough they hired a marketing director last October. Isn't that also exactly when the whole "warbond" and "pre-sale" bullshit started?
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicoleahendrix

>>187426042
Selling and buying ships with aUEC is confirmed for 3.1

>>187426407
>Selling and buying ships with aUEC is confirmed for 3.1
They won't have LTI on them. Just grinding shit.

>oops sorry, for technical reasons for our engineers we had to wipe all the items and currency from your account so we can balance the new alpha build :^)

>that one guy who grinds hundreds of thousands of UEC in an alpha and then all his stuff gets wiped

I hate this game. Just release it so I can get bored and move on. FFS

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>>187426324
>Screams internally

>>187426042
>and then I just remember Ben works there and see new dumb shit all the time and think 'oh wait yes it can'.
>Ben works there and see
>see

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>>187426610
There's a fucking guy who grinded 4 million aUEC, KNOWING that they'll reset that shit when 3.0 does get released.
Why dey do diz??

>>187427948
>guy who grinded 4 million aUEC
lol

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>>187427832

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3Hp-3mdgUA

>>187427720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3WimCPUkQY

>>187426324
I'd rather they spend money on doors than marketing

>>187427832

How fast could you accelerate a hornet to powered by the calories in Ben's corpse? That fatty could be a new fuel source.

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>>187428445
You fool! the day Ben's heart stops beating, is the day when his remains will warp reality and essentially become a black hole, therefore for the sake of humanity we MUST send Ben packing, packing as in a box flung into oblivion and hopefully while his heart is still beating, he'll freeze solid and therefore the ticking time-bomb that he is will be stopped... until some poor alien species come across his frozen ass and decides to reheat him like you would a bowl of fucking .50 dollar instant noodles in the fucking Microwave.
Gawd help those poor aliens.

>>187428974
>.50 dollar instant noodles
where the hell do you live

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>>187429859
Some wooden area.
Here, have some "gender free" headgear.

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I just want the Terrapin to fit like a glove in the Polaris Hangar.
PLS NO BULLY!!111!!111!!1!!!!!111!

>whales being worried about ships
>still no sign of a game to use them in

>>187431115
>2016 cultists relieved that the latest spess game flopped super hard and the lead dev was a huge liar
>2017 cultists having autistic tantrums that the 2016 spess game has been updated into a real game with actual features
>2018 cultists dead through suicide???

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>>187431029
You only dream of that because I told you that you could use the Terrapin to stealthy scout targets for the Polaris to jump in and Torpedo.

I lied! It also won't even fit anymore!

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So by looking at the bugfixing statistics, it seems like it will take about 1 day per bugfix.
67 bugfixes = 67 days on avarage. Some days they may fix a couple of bugs, and some days they will fix none.

So I guess we can expect 3.0 sometime after November.

My bet is sometime 2018 after Avocado, PTU and all other shit has been done.

>>187431915
>67 bugfixes = 67 days on avarage
Without taking in to account how many bugs they discover to add to the list.

>>187430152

I want my country back from this bullshit

>>187432165
the graph has them too so unless the rate changes drastically it seems about right

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>>187431463
REEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>187434537
It's gonna be fine, the hangar is big enough.

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So how does that feel, cultists?

If 3.0 releases january 2018, thats about a whole year without a single patch. Not a even a single megabyte of content.

>mfw 3.0 gets delayed until May 2018 because CRoberts and Sandi wants a couple of ships sales before a ton of people loses theyr shit and jumps the project when they see how shallow 3.0 is compared to the time it took to get it.

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>>187436317
And Erin was hoping for 2-3 major releases this year.
Oh lawdy!

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>>187436317
mfw

Honest question:

Does anyone actually think Star Citizen is going to ever be realized? I've kept the game in my peripheral for a while now, occasionally asking questions about it, but now that /edg/ and /scg/ combined, I am forced to deal with the game constantly now that I'm getting back into Elite Dangerous.

Star Citizen is all that seems to be discussed here but where is the fucking game?! WHERE IS IT?! What do you own the "game" do with your time to enjoy it? Hang out in your hanger and look at your ships?! I don't get it. Why is the fascination so great for something so controversial and unrealized? Are you all suckers?

>>187437127
dude all these snarky comments and shitload of sentences ending with question marks make you sound like an office lady
on the chance that you're female post tits or gtfo

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92rb-8mYHE0

looking back I really preferred this nuts, bolts, and exposed pipes look. the redesigned ships look way too sleek and overdesigned.

and also I realized they have added exactly NO gameplay since this demo. even the janky walking physics are still exactly as janky. fucking wow.

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>>187437127
I've pledge $50, and not gonna spend a single cent more until I see some major acceleration of progress.

I try to just keep my interest in the game on a check-in once every month to find out what is happening.

I spend my time playing Divinity: Original Sin 2, Endless Space, Endless Legend, Stellaris and a couple of other games while I wait.

Also, I've had major bad experiences before with the development of World of Darkness.

The problem I see with Star Ctiizen that we all found out was the reason World of Darkness got cancelled, was that none of the producers, designers or directors had any fixed plans on what the game was supposed to become.

Hopefully CIG will break away from the current way of development where they seem to not know what they want to make, which was what killed World of Darkness.

>>187436317
>grimhex was less than a megabyte of contet

damn cig's engineers are impressive if that's the case

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>>187437861
What's wrong with the guy's hands on the right?

>>187438391
bad skinning

>>187438391
You realize if Chris Roberts sees your post he's going to delay 3.0 another 6 months in order to check all the jpgs of NPCs?

>>187437928
>>187437127
I think in the end the game will be so bug ridden mess that that they will run out of money and some big corporation will buy it off from them.

>>187438127
>thinks Grimhex counts as actual content

seems like cultists will always be cultists

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>>187438805
HELP US SATYA NADELLA
YOU'RE OUR ONLY HOPE

>>187438980
That would be a great move. But even then, depending of the state where the game is it would take few years to get it released in decent state. So after all these delays it will mean more delay but at least then we would have a working game. That's what I'm thinking but that doesn't matter too much in real life of course.

Maybe people should make a petition for Satya...

>>187439381
depending on how many assets and how much code they have worked on in the background I'd say it'd probably take ~1 year for a playable version and then maybe another 6 months for QA for a final release

>>187438805
>>187438980
>>187439381
>>187439620
>what we really need is a publisher to buy out CIG and shit on the dream.

Get the fuck out. You can get the sort of garbage Microsoft and EA and Blizzard and Activision shit out in a thousand different flavor of shit. You're clearly a latecomer if you would actually endorse a publisher buyout, literally refund and never post here again. That is how to make sure SC Never lives up to its potential and becomes a shipwreck that everyone points when dishonest publisher shenanigans are challenged. You're a stockholme syndrome normie asslick if you think a publisher buyout would be anything but a catastrophe.

>>187439620
This sounds like a good plan. Let's make a petition already!

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>>187436559
Top fuckings kek
Erin is going to cry a lot this year,

>>187440338
sorry dad, you've been made redundant, just like at your old job. LOL

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>>187437127
Oh, feeling hurt, are we? Have I gone too far, anon? Am I asking too much of you with all my questions?

>>187437928
That's understandable at least. I'm more curious about the people who are optimistic or apologetic of the game. It just seems so strange to me that this general is as active with Star Citizen hopefuls as it is.

>>187438805
Sounds about right.

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>sq42 beta feb 2015
>PU beta jun 2015
jesus christ

>>187442583
Say it with me:

N O T A S C A M

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*fucks your mouth*

>>187443894
wtf where are all the polygons

>>187443274

Its a ponzi scheme. It constantly needs more money to keep the scam going. Once the money supply dries up, the whole house of cards collapses.

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>>187441212
shiiieet, that first part and cute laffin' animal was meant for this cunt:
>>187437818

>>187443894
don't forget to pre-order this now!
this game is definitely coming out, yup, no worries there.

I wonder what Roberto pays himself for his useless contribution. $1,000,000 PA? $2,000,000?

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WAIT
HOLD ON
WAIT
I GOT IT

Star SHITizen. Get it?!?
Dvv dvvv, fuck yah.

Home run chippa.

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I'd rather have a dead thread than stale bait

scam citizen

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>>187412125
>people too busy memeing on Star Citizen to answer my question

I-I just want a nice updated infograph for ED ships. p-p-please.

Sean Murray did nothing wrong.

Does baiting make it acceptable to be a dumbass??

>>187448079
Using only historical evidence as a guide, yes.

>>187447664
The withered man is rocking back and forth with his knees to his chest. He has no roof, nor walls. Muttering under his breath he keeps rocking forward and back. "tee poin oh" "werr is" His eyes are wrinkled and pained, as if he had witnessed too much "TEE POIN OH WJE IT" He gets up from the cold gutter. The man reminisces over past failings, and feels bad memories sharp in his mind. Overcome, he tries to shout but without teeth, it comes out as garbled nonsense. "EY DON TAK BATE" "DED FRED DED FRED" This man was once a respectable gentleman, before he sold his life away. He dedicated everything to men that didn't care. He became engrossed by their most fantastical ambition, and unfortunately, he was henceforth bound to their greed. The man was only slightly retarded, but his potential was once high. He once again tries to shout "PREFER DED THRED TO TROLS BAD TROLS" he staggers against his ill health and lies down on the floor, spluttering "tree point owe, were ar yu" a single tear rolls across his cheek.

ded thred ded gaems

>>187437861
>the redesigned ships look way too sleek and overdesigned
Probably because they hired too many graphical artists as ship builders who have nothing to do but thumb their butts while the rest of CIG struggles with an engine.

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Where is my comfy retaliator lounge roberts?

>>187452481
Elite Dangerous gets good numbers in game.
This general is definitely fucked though, that's for sure. Might as well just go to reddit.

>>187454795
>good numbers
>gets beat for concurrent players by one man's lie

>>187455126
actually, Elite Dangerous has done a much better job of holding onto a steady playerbase.

http://steamcharts.com/app/359320

Only reason No Man's Sky is up in numbers again is because of a recent sale and update.

http://steamcharts.com/app/275850

Last month, and previous months, the game had an average playerbase of around 800.

Both peaked around 7,000 players today, which is very good for both.

will a playstation eye at high framerate perform better than the RSI camera?

I find the 60fps muh pixels muh FOV stuff hard to believe

but the concept sounds good

>>187455630
The framerate isn't what is unique. The low light, or IR functionality is what will matter. The PS camera is probably better in better light.

>>187448890
10/10 Tolstoy tier

>>187455505
ed also has a standalone client so it's hard to say what the actual numbers are. could be 10% higher or 200%, who knows.

>>187454795
>>187455126
>>187455505
Elite's numbers were higher than Steam showed during some Community Goal. I guess a bunch of dads use the non-steam client. Muh drm

>>187455505
>erectile dysfunction also on sale
>so much for that theory

>>187461460
compare the average concurrent players and it's not hard to say Elite Dangerous is doing better than No Man's Sky overall.

Let me guess though, you're waiting on the vaporware the other half of this general has put its hopes into so you're a bitter little man? I get it.

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>Gladiusbabbies cried hard enough and got the devs to actually give it bigger guns when it was the bargin bin fighter

Guess I need to bitch to get S4 mounts on the Sabre.

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>>187465085
It already got S4 missile mounts in the last patch.

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>>187465270
The best part is that the S4s actually clip through the hull.

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has anyone else noticed that the new cutlass interior is pulled directly from the Brutus?

Looking at the Star Citizen store makes me nauseous. How is this justified? This game is going to be straight up p2w, is it not?

Maybe I'm not understanding how the ships or gameplay will work, but god this is disgusting.

Shame.

>>187467309
The TNGS ship? How did that look again?

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>>187467309
is there anymore nucutlass footage?

ugh like how can this rich white cis man get 150 mil
while other gay poc indie devs like dr derek smart don't get half the support
fuck this fascist system

>>187468273
Yes.

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>>187468729
you fucking bitch
don't expect an invite into my super cool pirate org

>>187468153
The ship sales will end once the game is ready to be released. They're just being sold now to continue funding development. They'll give a headstart at best, but they can also be lost, temporarily or permanently, and the effort to get them in game, assuming CR delivers, will likely be much less than the amount of money they currently cost. The Hornet, for example, can be unlocked by playing the dogfighting/racing arcade mode currently, and you'd have to get paid a pretty penny for your time or really suck at the game for buying it to cost less of your time.

This is assuming CR keeps his word, but like I said, you can already earn ships in game, and despite there being a massive shitstorm when they made that possible, they told the people bitching to fuck off.

>>187468241
It looked like that webm

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>>187470419
T-thanks

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>>187468241
Brutus was great, should've been in the finals instead of the Redeemer.

I'm assuming anon means the cargo area in the back which was going to be detachable.

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>>187470050
so, someone who paid $1,000 for a ship could potentially lose it permanently?

that's hilarious. I guess it's not as bad as I thought, but it is still fucking insane what they're offering. then there's also that whole "if and when is the game going to be released" thing to worry about. it also begs the question as to why one of the most successful fundraiser campaigns would need even more funding than it's already gotten.

this is all just so fishy.

>>187470050
Chris is going to bundle ships with game packages after release.

>>187473539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFv6Hoe5wE8&t=516s

For reference.

>>187473539
Isn't that what they do now?

>>187474632
Not really. A game package comes with an Aurora, or a Mustang I think. Any other ship of a pledge/donation/scam.

Where the fucks the Mustang update.

>got anaconda
>game not fun anymore

And this is the SECOND time it happens

Cutter will surely make me have fun again

>>187460171
nanaa nanananana katamari damacyy

>>187470602
>so, someone who paid $1,000 for a ship could potentially lose it permanently?
Yes. The game will have an insurance mechanic for recovering ships, and other things, if they're destroyed/stolen. Most ships they sell to backers come with like three or six months of insurance, and some, especially older ones, have lifetime insurance. So unless they have lifetime insurance for it, if they don't keep up on *in game* insurance paid for with *in game* money they could lose it permanently. Even with insurance, there will be some kind of wait period before you get a new ship.

I'll be the first to say spending money on jpgs is insane, and there's so many things that could go wrong resulting in the game never coming out and thousands done the drain, not to mention the ludicrousness of spending that much on a video game, but CIG has repeatedly said they're against pay2win, and, CR at least, have shown they're serious about the commitment; as much as they can be at this stage. They definitely do shady shit with the sales though, and it reeks, but it's letting me get $200,000,000+ game for $45 because there are people dumb enough to buy jpegs.

>>187470602
well cigs marketing model is entirely run around ship sales.
they literally cant do anything else, including make the game

>>187419408
the polaris is going to cost an arm and a leg to operate just based on missile and torpedo restock cost alone. Never mind the cost of hiring a full crew

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>>187454539
tfw the original retaliator wasn't a fucking FPS level.

>>187473818
>>187473539
Neat. Hadn't seen that before. I still wouldn't, at this point based on what we know, just write it off as p2w, nor consider the jewery we're seeing now with ship sale as indicative of post-launch funding. We'll have to see how they balance UEC purchases and starter packages. If they're selling game packages starting from $30 that come with one thumb in your butt and the other in the air waiting for a ride to ones selling at $10K that come with a full fleet, that's obviously fucked, as would be a UEC limit of billions/day. On the other hand, a modest amount UEC for weekend warriors and a slight game package selection wouldn't be a big deal at all. In the video he mentions a Hornet, which, when you think about it, really wouldn't unbalance anything as buying it would give you an upper hand in combat at the cost of being fucked in doing anything else. Considering a good pilot in an Aurora can beat most dads in hornets, but a hornet will never haul as much cargo as an Aurora, I'd consider the Hornet to be a worse deal.

The TL;DR of it is we'll have to see. Obviously the current community is dumb enough to support p2w, but CR has been consistent and seemingly sincere about avoiding p2w like the plague, and just wants to make sure there's a revenue stream for CIG to continue releasing content post release, and server costs.

>>187477348
having two swappable bomb bays in the front would make the flight model a nightmare though.

I do like how the living area module is an actual apartment suite though instead of a giant, useless rec room thing.

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>>187467309
>no S1 laser repeater drops down when you open a side door do blast dirty space gooks
https://youtu.be/S06nIz4scvI

>>187477835
I'm sure they'll eventually add it as a 60 dollar extra variant.

___Kong___

Why isn't NMS in the OP?

>>187478323
why would it be?

>>187478629
because E:D and SC are both dead games and while we have a thread for dead games we might as well throw NMS on to the corpse pile

>>187478629
It's a space game that exists and isn't boring. If anything it should be the main topic of discussion.

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>>187480072
then go make a /nms/ general you knuckle dragging retard
nothing stopping you

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>>187468241
>>187470574
>Space Hind.
What could have been.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEExeBzEGMM

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>>187480903
>Tfw literally the worst ship won TNGS.
At least we've basically gotten the silverback in the form of the new cutlass.

>>187480484
is there a video of that image?

>>187480903
If it had won, I wonder if it would still only be hanger decoration like the redeemer, or would cig have finished it up instead of doing the giant overhaul on the cutlass?

>>187478629
>>187480484
don't reply to him, just report off topic and move on, theres a janitor or mod that knows the score and is aware of the on going shill/shitppost and will delete/ban him.

>>187481149
Probably would have been the new style cuide for drake, which would have been awesome and the cutlass would have been reworked into a heavy fighter instead of a dropship/generalist.

>>187481149
Its hard to say, stylistically it fits drake's current look well enough to pass with some material changes. But I bet it would be down to how neat the geometry was and how everything was rigged for engine. Those were supposed to be requirements in the judging but they apparently threw those out the window when that mess won.

>>187475206
>biggest jump range in the game
>can travel anywhere easily
>carry anything I want
>immense firepower if I want
>easily the highest point in the game when I got it
You don't actually have one, do you?

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>>187481072
If it was the worst ship, how come it won?

>>187440338
It's already a shipwreck tho

>>187481959
>Community voting
>People got excited by the interior
>Dumb exposed shield generators that are not established as part of any star citizen technology
>Community voting

>>187481628

I do but it boosts up to like 280

Gonna take it to deciat today if G5 dirties dont improve shit im gonna sell it again

SLF is kind of fun but Fdev fucked it up at the same time

>>187482231
lets not forget
>personal fave of chris
>most completed ship compared to other entrants
>winners organised a ddos attack on the vote server after their ship was shown first.

>>187483047

fuck just realized I need to grind Palin for G5's

>>187483076
>the last bit
nice fiction

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>>187482231
>>187483076
Even boomslang would have been better. The only way it could have been worse is if the halo ripoff ship had won.

why are certain kinds of shitposting banned in this general and certain kinds are not?

seem very not 4chan

>>187482231
Several ships had exposed shield units at the time. The 300i's were right out on its belly, and the mustang's was sticking out right on it's nose except for the delta.

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>>187486443
Don't forget the constellation, those circular bumps on the engine nacelles. And the titties on the Freelancer DUR and MIS.

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Threadly reminder that SC will be incomplete without the inclusion of form fitting zero profile vac suits, and modular armor to attach to them or not.

>>187487371
>virtual roberto in a spandex suit

pls no

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*sweats profusely*

DON'T SHOW THE FUCKING LOADING SCREEN

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>>187455505
Thankfully, another 4-6 weeks and NMS will be once again certified dead so we can have this kind of posting gone forever

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>mfw gamescom presentation
I don't remember laughing so hard at game's showing since that Konami E3 conference. Not only that, they also keep adding features literally no one asked for when absolutely nothing in the game works so far.
I used to think that we might get first episode of SQ42 next year if we're lucky, but no, that's clearly not happening. 2020, maybe, but not sooner.

>>187489061
You can just let the thread die if there's nothing to talk about you know.

>>187488534
>Another 4 to 6 weeks
And 3.0 still won't be out by then.

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>>187489061
I bit the fuck outta my hand just to deal with the cringe factor alone.
The presentation was a fucking cluster-fuck and then they fucking pour some shitty "faceware" shit all over the already steaming shit.
But hey..! at least we can tell who the fucking crazed cultists are who fucking praise this "presentation" for "what it is".

>>187441212
>I'm more curious about the people who are optimistic or apologetic of the game. It just seems so strange to me that this general is as active with Star Citizen hopefuls as it is.
People are optimistic because CIG puts out weekly, roughly hour-long reports about what they accomplished in the past week. For those that actively follow the project, the progress is slow, but real. Of course, someone outside the project wouldn't really know about any of this.

That's also why the thread is so active with SC discussion. CIG constantly releases new info. Although, right now the thread is way more active than usual since gamescom just happened. It's not uncommon for the thread to die until Thursday and Friday (when CIG publishes their weekly updates).

>>187468153
The game is fairly un-p2w. In addition to everything >>187470050 said, combat is largely skill-based, and bigger ships aren't strictly better. A big old expensive capital or trading ship will need a sizable crew and be expensive to operate, and without escorts it'll get fucked by a few dedicated fighters. Capital ships aren't meant to be instant win buttons, they're meant to be expensive behemoths that you only take out when the risk is worth the reward.

>>187470602
>it also begs the question as to why one of the most successful fundraiser campaigns would need even more funding than it's already gotten.
>this is all just so fishy.
>Hey people want to give you money but you should stop making money because it's "fishy".
CIG has 4 offices around the world with like 350 employees on the books working on this game. If it's a Ponzi scheme, it's a shit one, because those profit margins have got to be garbage

>>187493642
They broke 400 employees pretty recently

>>187426042
Yeah, except they pretty explicitly and intentionally shared the information with everyone.

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>>187493867
Gotta make 'em shekels..

>>187494224
>CIG gave trading cards with QR codes on them out at gamescom for people to buy ships
>What the fuck, those greedy bastards
>They made the QR codes public and encouraged people to share them
>Yeah I guess they'd make more money that way, greedy bastards

/pol/ is leaking again

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>>187494336
How about CIG wasting resources AND wasting peoples time on a shitty marketing 'gimmick'??
We all know all fucking ships will become available for purchase (except the Idris-M... maybe) in the anniversary sale come November.
The ONLY THING they fucking 'achieve' with those "trading cards" is to make the poor assholes who bothers to show up at their booth feel fucking "special".
Don't you fucking tell me that some random motherfucker who has never heard of the SC project will go ahead and spend money on an IN-GAME 'ITEM' that doesn't even include the motherfucking gayme to begin with.

>>187495335
You seem very upset for some cards with QR codes that took a single dude an afternoon at best

>>187495335
>How about CIG wasting resources AND wasting peoples time on a shitty marketing 'gimmick'
I'm sure it took them a bunch of money to print out glorified business cards. And I'm sure people were super inconvenienced about it somehow

>??
Calm down sperg

Seriously, you're just looking for reasons to get upset at this point. It's just marketing. I know you probably have a knee-jerk negative reaction to all marketing, but seriously get your shit together.

>>187493867
>>187494336
Not the whiner, but I'm a little triggered by the lack of website based sale for stuff. I literally don't have the option of getting those ships because I don't own a smartphone.

Think we'll get a cleaner "as intended" or press cut of the gamescom demo? I'd like to see it run through with 6 gorillion fuckups due to stage pressure and poor communication.

>>187497391
>but I'm a little triggered by the lack of website based sale for stuff

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/promotions/glaive2017gamescom
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/promotions/promocutlassblack2017
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/promotions/promogamescom2017nox
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/promotions/miscprospectorgamescom
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/promotions/gamescomdragonflypromo
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/promotions/2017gamescomrover
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/promotions/AuroraLXgamescom2017

???

>>187497614
Crashes have nothing to do with poor communication or stage pressure.

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>>187497614
Of course we will. Everything will go according to script, run at stable 60FPS and look just like a dream game CR wants but that will never exist. Happy thoughts, happy thoughts.

>>187497860
no but cringey RP, constant failures of communication between players and general incompetence do. In particular chris trying to direct the demo live likes a its a goddamned shit tier movie I could do without.

>>187497762
>6month insurance
bleh, nvm, thanks though.

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>ywn own a life-sized Roberts and Sandi cardboard cutout
Why live

>>187480072
>isn't boring
good one.

what is davos doing on mars in a yellow jumpsuit

>>187475206
yup, that's the inherent problem with ED
you grind and grind and grind, only to realize that there's now nothing substantive to do with your badass ship
the grind is the game is the grind

>>187499129
smuggling of course, you think he got those onions into storm's end on a boat?

>>187498585
Gooks are into Star Citizen?

RIP. The whaliest whales in the entire world are going to ruin the game.

>>187499745
They literally don't have the funds. Only whitey can afford to spend 30 grand on vidya.

>>187500081
Senpai, gooks spend 30 grand on mobile games

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>900 years in the future.
>magazine still in front of trigger group, barrel still less than 18inches long.
Why?

>>187500646
Just to piss off anal retentive /k/ommandos.

>>187500646
Star citizen isn't a game

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>>187500646
>bullpup
We already have hexagons, we don't need more pseudo-futuristic meme shit.

>>187500646
It's funny because carbine and bullpup systems would be most desirable given the constant deployment from cramped space ships and rovers.

But it's gotta be sci-fi and look "cool" so things need to be XBAWX HUEGE and look like ass.

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>Gladius gets S3 wing mounts, but the cockpit is worse than before
Roberts gives, but he also takes.

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>>187501459
That's my point, everything is cramped ships, evaing through derelicts and box to box shootouts in cargo transfer bays, all deployed from space limited ships where cubic inches are at a premium, making a compact CQC frame an absolute must, but this is broken up by kilometers long shots across 0g 0 atmo void or rolling dunes on empty planets where the velocity and accuracy added by a long barrel will literally be the difference between life and death.

>>187502078
HL3 Confirmed! I knew it!

>>187501275
>implying bullpups are meme shit
"no"

>>187504838
"yes"

So, will Star Citizen come out before X4 is done?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuIeKMYaIAk

>>187476969
following the chain, are you telling us that if a ship cost a lot it should disregard balance and be able to fight everything?

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>>187505102
>will Star Citizen come out

>>187505102
Feel pretty safe saying nope.

>>187505102
There are slim chances that SC will come out, period. We're lucky if we get "minimum viable product", after that I give the project a year or two at best.

>>187505636
He wasn't talking about the ship's cost, but crew and ordinance, which are universal costs every multicrew ship will have to worry about to some degree or other.

>>187506395
Read the chain a little,
The guy I quoted is bringing up the cost when the last post was about not making the Polaris cheated.
I like the idea of a smaller cap ship with a gun focus, but why say the Polaris should be do both gun and torpedo just because it cost money

multicrew ship don't mean they shouldn't be specialized with weakness

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>>187505102
>mfw I'm actually more eager to play X4 because it may actually come out. And not only, just release, but release before SC.

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Does anyone even play Elite Dangerous here anymore? It seems like nothing but Star Citizen discussion.

Well, I guess I'll give it a try: What ship should I aim for next if I currently have a Cobra? I'd like to stay relatively multi-purpose but I'm open to anything I guess.

>>187509975
We talk about elite in our discord http://discord.gg/CJFhUkp

>>187509975
>if I currently have a cobra
that's the end of the fun, sorry kiddo. the grind begins now.

>>187509975
Diamonback explorer. I don't even play Ed and know that

>>187510225
Okay, thanks.

>>187510235
I'm aware ships become exponentially more expensive at this point, thanks.

>>187510506
Yeah, I know that's the common path but there have been more ships added since I last played.

Be honest with me..
How much have you spent on Star Citizen so far and what have you gotten?

>>187511181
https://raylehnhoff.github.io/SCFSD/
post em

>>187482231
>literally only one hour to vote fucking up the rest of the world
>>187500646
the real question is why they don't have caseless ammo

>>187511181
€0.
the same amount of content you have

>>187511181
I own a Cutlass Red LTI and a Yellowjacket Dragonfly LTI

>>187511181
>how much have you spent
$40
>what have you gotten
nothing

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>>187511181
Just have the cutlass for the inevitable price increase with 3.0. Gonna upgrade that to a vanguard and the retaliator is base with no modules.

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>>187511486

I havent seen this game in a few years and it looks amazing, but I heard its having financial difficulty and troubles about coming out?

Is this true? I want to back it more, but im in fear of it being a scam and if it will fail.

>>187512621
It's a scam. Go away and never come back.

>>187511181
Honestly I'm not even sure how much I've spent after all the coupons, discount CCUs and a melt credit error in my favor. Probably 225-250 total.

>>187511181
$6000

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>>187512147
>>187512568
>>187511181

I am somewhere at $1800.

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>>187511863
>$185
borderline
>>187512147
>$470
consider suicide
>>187512568
>$179
borderline
>>187512705
>$250
you need help
>>187513165
end your life
>>187512883
kys cuck famalam desu desu ga

How is CIG going to balance professions if they are avoiding acting like a video game with 'stats' or 'skills'.

What's to differentiate someone who has been playing as a medic for a year and has all the top tier armor and then some new guy who just picks up the same gear.

'player skill' is a bullshit excuse because they will never have a system so deep that people who aren't dedicated to the role can't pick it up.

>>187513761
>kys cuck famalam desu desu ga

Well I'm not sharing if you have that kind of attitude.

>>187514220
One would assume the process of getting that gear would mean the newer player would have learned some basic knowledge of the medical gameplay.

>>187511181
$0. I got nothing. Just like the people who paid thousands.

Lot of angry poorfags in the general.

Sad.

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>>187515328

>>187512147

Cutlasses and retaliators will be buffed. Also the 325a.

Is there a way to trade ships in an official manner (between players)? You guys could speculate on these.

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>>187511181
outta my way

>>187516493
You might think you are better than anyone else beacuse you are spending your daddy's money but in the end your life is miserable.

>>187511181
>How much have you spent on Star Citizen so far
45$
> and what have you gotten?
A price reduction for an potential solo and MMO space games which are being developed, plus a deep insight over a big game development process.

>>187514220
Your first error is to believe players want a second jobs rather than cool gameplay to switch in between.
Your second error is to confuse actual skills with arbitrary game limit like stat grinding or timer.

The ability for newcomer to do better than a veteran players despite having the same equipment is precisely a demonstration of his own skills being made more relevant.
Taking control of a high-level medic and doing better than a veteran with a low-level veteran, wouldn't make players skills matter at all.

>>187516638
ha ha look at this bitter poorfag and laff

>>187516493
man the harpoons

>>187516638
>you are spending your daddy's money

All this projection.

Kid, out in the real world people have jobs and disposable income.

>>187517568
and in the real world responsible adults don't spend $6000 on a vidya toy

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just bought elite and finished the training missions. this is fun

>>187517669
Sure they do.

Don't define others by your limited worldview. You'll understand better when you grow up.

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>>187517669
>irresponsible people spend money on recreation
>$6k is a lot of money

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>>187517669
$6000 for years of entertainment is nothing for any adult with stable income.

I just spent about $4300 putting some love and care into another of my toys