/xcg/ - XCOM General

All vipers must fucking hang

Pistols

kiss sneks

Live fast
Die young
Bad girls do it well

I dropped a load on Lily's back and I liked it.

>>186996860
So does Lily fucks Rovr?

pointless poll inbound
http://www.strawpoll.me/13771939/
http://www.strawpoll.me/13771939/

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>>186996562
The Psi Ops' animations are so fun to watch.

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>>186997446
On that we are agreed.

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>The base game will not be patched with War of the Chosen's updates. To achieve the full breadth of new features and systems, the team rebuilt large portions of the original game. As a result, the optimizations experienced in War of the Chosen are part of that new game code, and are not present in the XCOM 2 base game.

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What the fuck went wrong?

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Well shit

>>186998954
>>186998849
unfortunate

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>>186998954

I don't have a slowpoke so have this pokemon related image.

>>186998954
time to cancel preorder and pirate

>>186995452
asking again, anyone?

>>187000246
corpses and extra weapon attachments are usually safe to sell

>>187000246
Blackmarket usage mod will show you which items are ok to sell.

>>187000246
Elerium cores

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Where's the cheapest place to buy war of the chosen?

>>187000417
I got it at GMG for a little under 30 bucks about a month ago

>>187000608
too slow, step it up

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>>187000608
cyberpunk revolvers are the best

>>187000608
to whoever made this, it has been useful in /fng/ whenever i mention a character in, so thank you

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>>187002378
Given the filename I believe that is the source anon.

Jake really outdid himself this time.

Why aren't Avatars playable in multiplayer?

>>186996562
So I'm about to get to lasers in Long Dong 2, but I also need to do my Liberation Mission.

If I slap a bunch of upgrades on my sniper's rifle, are those upgrades stuck on that tier one sniper rifle?

I forget how that works, I thought I remembered the upgrades staying with the soldier or becoming a locked "set" or something in vanilla, I forget.

>>186996562
>Viper King II promises you a harem of vipers, however it would be clear that they wouldn't be into it
>Liberated Viper has a crush on you
You can only choose one, who do you ally with

>>187003060
No you can take the attachments off and slap em on other weapons at will.

>>186995452
Use this mod.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=648410303&searchtext=

>>187003047
Because they're not normal enemies. Avatars, Chosen, and Rulers will never be playable because they're OP as fuck.

>>187003329
Ethereals were playable in EU/EW multiplayer. Just give Avatars a ridiculous point value, like last time.

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Reminder that Avatars used to be Advent Psi units earlier in development.

>>187004114

Reminder that you have no proof.

>>187004067
Avatars are more OP than EU/EW Ethereals. Avatars teleport and regenerate health.

>>187004114
reminder that you are a stupid faggot

>>187004302
Literally look in the game files you stupid fuck. It's referred to as an ADVENT Psi Witch and there are unused advent posters depicting it.

>>187004302
>>187004403
instead of responding report him you dumb fags

>>187004472
unused because they're spoilers, anon.

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>6 days

>>187004761
They were repurposed. Also, we could've had Advent ACVs, Synths, and Drones but nope because fuck you.

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FYI, haven't seen anyone post this here yet

Will the chosen be playable in challenge mode?

>>187006084
yesssssssssssssssss

So I'm kind of confused on how the people living in advent cities are ok with the aliens. How the fuck are they convinced the aliens are good guys when they have all these monstrosities walking around like the sectoid and chryssalids?

>>187006915

Chryssalids don't go to city centers, or faceless or berserkers.

The only "ugly" or "scary" ayy that you see in city centers are sectoids. Besides, it has been decades, people are just used to it now, i mean there are statues of sectoids helping people.

>>187006915
Maybe the aliens are really friendly when not dealing with terrorists. Maybe Sectoid Bob helps grandma take the garbage out. Maybe Sally the Viper likes volunteering at the youth center.

>>187006915
The only ones walking around the cities are Advent soldiers. The actual aliens don't walk around the cities with civilians, they are only deployed when Xcom or resistance forces are attacking.

>>187006915
das rayycis

>>187006915
Only the presentable ones are walking amongst civilians. Chryssalids, faceless and berserkers are only deployed in resistance missions because they are too scary for civilians.

templar is fucking broken

>>187006915
Regardless of /pol/, im sure you are aware about many MANY different things that are plain wrong in your city/country. Do you ditch your home and go live in the woods and/or join up with a terrorist organization to do something about it? No, you just continue to live in your happy little world, hoping that things wont get worse.

It's the same thing for those ppl too, but with things to lose raised higher (like acces to magic cure, risk of getting crysaldided, and advent burgers)

>>187006915
Most people are either too afraid to rebel against totalitarians or are drawn to the sense of normalcy of ADVENT.

>>187007759
So people are just ok when they pass a chryssalid at a sidewalk?

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>>187008024
in asutralia, they keep them as pets

>watching WOTC cutscene chosen/elder one
>see purple sea goo from ending of xcom 2
really firing my noggin

>>187008580
Really stimulates my nerve endings to the point they reach action potential and depolarize.

>>187008024
You don't see a chrysallid unless advent wants you dead.

>>187008197
ABSOLUTE MADMAN

>>187009839
xcom 2 was a simulation confirmed

>>186998849
>Fix your game, Jake!

It makes sense when you remember that this is Jake's game, not ours.

>>187012864
Jake is my bae though

Christopher "I'd Rather Have A Prolonged Firefight Behind Full Cover Than Kill The Enemy Behind Half Cover" Odd

>>187006915
>>187007158
>>187007185

I wish they would have kept the fact that all the aliens were coming from black vans like the E3 trailer.

I recall reading in the xcom 2 book that a viper came out from a black van when it was night time to catch those who were infiltrating and a Pectoid sneaked its way inside a "police" station to kill rebels.

The aliens never patrol in city centers.

>>187008189
It looks like a sectoid was chewing Advent bubble gum and he made a bubble so fucking big that when it poped, he covered his whole face with it.

>>187015304
Christopher "Overwatch Crawling On An Ambush" Odd

>>187015812
Christopher "Specter is a she but Viper is a he" Odd

>>187016150
Christopher "Activate The Entire Map On Turn 2" Odd

Why is there so much unpredictable shit in this game that will fuck you hard and wreck hours of intense tactical focus?

I finally got on a roll and then made the mistake of trying to hack a console in a van, whilst in the van, whilst in concealment, with a pod outside.
Imagine my surprise when, instead of the specialist's gremlin just activating the console from the adjacent tile on which I was stood (literally right next to the fucking thing) it instead decided to fly out the van, do a 'fuck you' loop-de-loop about 3 inches from the sectoid's face and then hack the console through the side of the van from about 2 meters away.

Obviously this broke concealment, obviously this caused a fucking shitstorm.
Thankfully, only my specialist took a hit because of half cover because for reason the back end of an open van door is only half cover despite being full height and I managed to mitigate the damage by using up all my explosives but still, shit like this happens all the time as I'm learning the game.

Wiped my squad the next map when a sectoid panicked my ranger who managed to nestle a perfect fucking grenade throw right in between two of my guys (sitting high up on the roof with that sweet elevation bonus) who promptly fell to their deaths below. Not really a bug, just a classic 'that's xcom, baby!' moment. The kind that always strike when you're already at your fucking wits end.

I don't mind losing either but having to fucking roll the dice through gatecrasher like 3 times just to get a smooth start all while the camera gets pulled off you every time new enemy shows up... I don't know how I haven't thrown my screen through the window yet.

>>187017174
Hacking breaks concealment, Gremlins don't.

>>187017927

So if I'd have used any other character to hack it up close it'd still have broken it?

Man maybe I should not play ironman first time through because there are so many little things that can fuck your entire run if you don't know them before hand.
I'm playing trial and error shit with 10 hours of hard work gameplay at a time.

>>187018045
You shouldn't play ironman if you don't know how to play the game, this isn't appliable only to XCOM btw

>>187018045
>So if I'd have used any other character to hack it up close it'd still have broken it?

Correct. Interacting with an objective, whether it's a hack or planting explosives, always breaks concealment. hacking a robot or turret actually doesn't, so long as the hack succeeds. You'll be spotted if it fails.

>>187018045
Also, this is a tip more than a rule but unless it's a very good bonus or a very easy hack and the tower is far from the objective, you shouldn't be spending turns hacking shit if you have LOS on enemies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6YUFCaMi-A

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>>187018248
Marking crates for extraction also seems to break concealment.

Will the chosen be playable in Challenge mode?

>>187018161

I went straight for ironman in EU and EW and had a blast. Sure I spent a few days getting my ass handed to me but there were far less surprises to contend with.
The learning curve in XC2 has been brutal.

>>187018248

I guess that makes sense. Shame because that would have been an absolute beaut of a mission otherwise.

>>187018716
most likely not but who the fuck knows, ask devs on the stream tomorrow

>>187018907
is there a stream?

>>187019156
>>187006084

>>187018907
So only normal enemies are playable? No chosen or rulers or avatars?

>>187018878
Dude, I really don't mean to sound like a jackass or anything but the mere fact that youre doing that sort of shit (hacking from concealment, positioning your dude IN THE FUCKING OBJECTIVE instead of from a safe spot a little bit away) makes me think it's not so much of a steep learning curve as much as arrogance.
Also, if you have to keep replaying a mission until things go your way, you're definitely not ready for Ironman.

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uh, just noticed it: Beagle and wizard joint OGxcom strim today

Whiplash - Attack an enemy wigh an electrical lash. Does not cost an action. Double damage agaist robots.
Full throttle - Gain +2 mobility with every kill this turn. (no idea if this is passive or active)
Purifier autopsy - +1 health to all vests.

>>187019442
>this turn
seems active to me

>>187019237
dude i have no idea

>>187019528
It's a passive, I'm pretty sure. It just resets at the start of every turn. You can't keep feeding a Skirmisher kills until he goes full Sanic by the end of the mission.

>>187019262
>If you have to replay Gatecrasher until things go your way you aren't ready for Ironman
Is this nigga serious?
Gatecrasher is the most RNG shitshow of the entire campaign

>>187019262

You do sound like a jackass.

Don't pretend like gatecrasher can't fuck an entire run with a little bad luck.
You can mitigate a lot but that mission, without items, without any attachments can go shitty quick.

>>187019856
Unless you're counting Magnicence 2, Vanilla Gatecrasher is a very dull and boring mission, but not really difficult unless you rush and activate the Officer and the Sectoid pod at once.

>>187019528
That's the thing. An active ability giving you +2 IF you hit something and kill it? Doesn't seem that much useful, especially since active abilities have cooldowns. A passive ability, without cooldowns? Seems good, maybe even too good for a passive, since it will allow lots of movement with certain preparations. It's a tricky shot.

Gatecrasher is the reason why statistically advent troopers are the deadliest enemy in XCOM2, and why Rookies have the most kills out of any class

>>187008024

There aren't any Cryssalids on the sidewalk.

>>187020157
It's not necessarily hard but more that because Rookies are fucking retarded things can go badly regardless of how well you play

>>187020506
Which is why it gets dull, you play extra carefully because you already press new game in damage control, but it's still not the monster people make it out to be. The map isn't even procedural, is it? It's always the same plaza with a bunch of concrete high covers

>>187020657
>The map isn't even procedural, is it?
It is in fact procedural. It does require the same PCP of the statue with the concrete pillars (but that's changing in WotC) but the surrounding buildings are all randomly assigned.

>>186998954
This just seems like outright lies. Reminds me of the scam they tried to pull with SimCity always online where they claimed it was part of the base game so it couldn't be patched out. Any code can be patched into the base game you fucking liars.

>>187020157
gatecrasher in long war is actually really easy and well balanced. I wish the vanilla game backloaded the difficulty

>>187021375
>t. someone who has never coded in their life
I think it's shitty too, but you can't copy paste code and expect it to work.

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>>186996667
-out with me

>>187021972
>6 niggas with rifles and nades against 8 advent and a pectoid
>unfair RNG bullshit
>15 fucking enemies and some of your dudes arbitrarly spawn with SMGs or shotguns you can't rely on even at point blank
>balanced

I honestly don't understand anything anymore.

>>187022209
8 guys, versus 11 enemies

>>187022209
I said 6 but I meant 4

>>187022334
Yeah but amongst these enemies there's cunts like the sentinel, the nothin personnel and the engineer which can seriously fuck even a LCPL squad up, not to mention rookie with a SMG and grenade cooldown.

>>187022572
It's really not that hard, anon. I don't know why you think one overreach and a memester with a flash grenade makes it so difficult.

The most dangerous enemy is the drone, and you'll be happy you have a shotgun vs those.

>>187022091
Sure it would require a little more work than just copying and pasting bits of code, but even the logic doesn't make sense

>we rebuilt parts of the original game
>but we're somehow unable to patch it into the original game

this just reeks of cut costs and adding an incentive for players to buy the pack

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>cosmetic mods probably won't work in wotc
fuck jake

>>187023083
>cut costs
That's likely the issue. Adapting the code probably would take a while.

We already got jewed on the price, but I jewed them back via gmg.

>Do the ADVENT forge mission
>get the body out of the tube
>it gets MEC legs
too many mods ? forgot to take pic
>>187023147
How the fuck did you do this one

>>187023302
>top 10 anime betrayals

>>187022959
It's hard but doable, I just don't like the idea of facing a bunch of enemies with different skills and having to weight between which enemies to kill first when they can kill my dudes in any order and it will fuck me over anyway.

>>187023083
I have a lot of goodwill for Firaxis, but they are VERY cheap with shit like this. I doubt 2K, probably one of the worst publishers in the market, is doing any good either.

>>187023302
I see a lot of people complaining about the price but isn't it standard for an Xpac? I'm not american and in my country prices are completely unrelated to american standards so I'm sorry if I'm wrong. Anyway, it's much better dropping 40 bucks on this than 15 for the reinforcemement pack.

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>>187023563

>>187022131
>The only pure snek has porn of her as well.
Why are Vipers all sluts.

>>187023147
>>cosmetic mods probably won't work in wotc
why not?

>>187023751
a weapon to surpass metal gear

1-5 lw2 works with war of the chosen and everything is wonderful once again
6-10 it's busted and never patched ever again and a pseudo-long war compilation modpack is all we get

>>187024114
YES

BASED RNG

>>187024114
It's guaranteed not to work. They confirmed that the expansion is launched separate from the base game just like EW was

>>187023751
it was kinda like that yea

>>187024284
I think the implication is the mod would be patched.

>>187023751
>>187024295
>Nightmare

>>187024440
Don't imply me you fuck

>>187024485
Oh baby I'm gonna imply all over your back.

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>>187008024
Sure, perfectly normal occurrence.

>>187008024
Some of the suburban houses have children's pictures of Sectoids walking Chryssalids like dogs, so probably, yeah.

>>187025887
No way, that's awesome.

>>187025887
>all the dogs died so lids could become new best pets

;_;

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>>187023751
>>187024295
>>187024463
At least his legs are _OK_

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>>187024014
outside of the AVATAR project the ADVENT just sorta do things arbitrarily.

"Hey so we're seeing how the human DNA works on the reptilians and so far aside from diet/atmospheric compatibility they've got tits now, one of the human scientists said this would be useful. PS: No I don't know why we decided to give the new sectoids mouths that exist only so that they can scream and make scary faces, it makes them a terrible choice for parades and PR stunts"

>>187025887
>humans in advent cities think lids are just weird bugs that the aliens keep as pets, only encountering harmless variants in their day-to-day lives
>Children in a terror raid running straight towards full-fledged murder-egg machines thinking they're just big dogs

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>>187026495
DELET this

>>187026495
That's how they get you.

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when will there be a S.T.A.L.K.E.R. mod for openxcom?

If X-Com found a way for the Elders to make Avatars without turning most of humanity into goo how would their plans change, aside from no longer turning everyone into goo.

>>187026495
Plz no.

>>187027008
No change at all. The ayys still limit our freedom and subjugate our species.

>>186996562
Why is there no ayy equivalent to the avenger? Why are there no missions inside the avenger where lids and ayys sneak aboard to sabotage it? Why is there mission where you send guys into an ayy ship as it is about to launch and have to evacuate via parachute from lower earth orbit?

>>187027161
because that's retarded

>>187027008
Like, how it's possible to gather DNA samples without killing someone IRL? Presumably they already would have achieved their objective and either left or would keep Earth as a recruitment/breeding world.

>>187027081
Well I meant would they just rule humanity with the fake smiles as usual or try to enact some other plan like changing humanity into another highly-modified servant race (I'm going to assume the Advent Troopers are just low-budget enforcers for the most part, like the combine troopers are to the synth/cyborg units in halflife)

DSP voicepack when?

>>187027361
Probably the latter.

>>187027256
>t-that's retarded!
Nice try ayy

>>187027337
Maybe they use the human goo for more than just DNA information. That's what I always assume whenever stories do this sorta thing.

>>187027453
I didn't stutter faggot.

Parachuting from orbit? are you fucking stupid?

>>187027396
ohhhh my god dude. DUDE!

>>187027008
Maybe they'd start making Humanity similar to the Chosen

>>187027396
>Rk. DSP has died
>Wooooooooooooooooooooooooow

>>187026236
EYE outfits when. Jian Squad and Culter squad competing to prove who is the truest saver of humens in LW2 when

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>>187019275

B-Beagle?!

>Breaking windows will reveal you
>ADVENT casually strolls through windows on patrol

>>187024060

Heavy changes to the code and, more relevant for the cosmetics mods, change to the shader itself.

>>187027720
I'm not a "GIVE ME THE LORE ON THESE ORIGNAL CHARACTERS DONUT STEAL" but it'd be interesting to know how the Chosen were, uh, chosen. They also are all the same species, or at least appear to be unless the Elders did some serious DNA fuckery to them after choosing them.

Sort of a missed opportunity to not have a variety of chosen from entirely new races, or like, a Chosen that's an andromedon only in a completely unique suit that performs nothing like the in-game ones so that its not just a weird Alien Ruler-type thing.

>>187028103
They better tell us what the chosen actually are.

>No chosen base on the moon you have to assault

>>187028486
It'd be really dumb if they didnt.

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Oh shit

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>>187029606

It seems the new standard for XCOM 2 "pro" will be Legendary Ironman + Beta Strike + Grim Dawn

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>>187029808

>>187030369
Half cover, not even once.

Stop overwatching vs lost
Stop not fucking going to high ground with mox and then saying he's shit
Fuck

>>187030627
Nah man he's shit cant you tell, nothing good about Skirmishers at all.

>>187030627
REAPERS ARE SO GOOD
MOX IS SHIT
WHAT'S A TEMPLAR?

beaglerush activity

>>187027814
its already on

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>>187031248
>>187031350

>>187027787
Jian scum should just be an ADVENT reskin so I can throw acid grenades at them

>>187030627
Overwatching vs lost is bad because you're not getting that free action via the headshot mechanic, right?

>>187031135
It's so sad to see the Reapers getting all the love just because they require the least amount of adjustment to use effectively.

>There's lost on the map better not ever use grenades even to save my soldiers, hunker down that's the ticket

>>187031686
Huge aim penalty, 90% of the time you're just wasting ammo against an enemy that's not going to damage you this turn when you could kill it no problem at all next turn with no action cost and you'll have more ammo for the rest.

>>187031902
Ah, that's right. I always forget that overwatch has an aim penalty. Is it really that huge though? And that's what I figured in terms of ammo conservation.

>>187031740
Its funny seeing people use the Templars and slowly look like they're realizing how good they are only to not actually learn anything at all.

>>187032102
>Multiply your base chance-to-hit by x0.7 for overwatch, or x0.6 against a dash.

If you normally have 100% to hit, you've got 70% chance to hit a walking enemy or 60% chance to hit dashing enemy

>>187026274

Probably to fill those roles they filled in the battlefield while using their clone army techniques.
>Thinmen>vipers>infiltrators.
>Sectoids>pectoids>moderate psi units
>Mutons and berserkers> slightly different mutons> Heavy infantry.

I suppose it's more specialized now that advent troops make up the Frontline units.

>>187030595
https://youtu.be/rK4VB5g7JXc?t=52s

>>187032226
Odd was starting to play with his Templar then specifically took it out against a mission vs Lost because apparently pistols, swords, lightning bolt are now bad against enemies with low health that recharge AP on kill

>>187032269
holy shit. I didn't think it was that huge of a penalty. I thought it was a -10 to aim or something. I have newfound respect for all the overwatch shots my troops have landed now.

>>187032226
>>187032515
The problem is that the Templar joined as a squaddie, so when he opens the soldier-select screen he doesn't see it. That's literally the biggest reason why he doesn't take out the Templar; "I need to bring out my high-ranking soldiers so I don't get spanked, what high-level soldiers are available?" And doesn't even think about it unless the comments have been particularly loud about YOU HAVE A FUCKING TEMPLAR.

I seem to remember this not being as big a problem in Enemy Unknown. Is that just me, or is XCOM 2 that much worse about making it pointless to ever bring out squaddies?

>>187032992
squaddies have always been kinda ass except assaults

>>187032992
He could send it on covert ops missions that grant promotions if he wants to boost it without taking it out as a squaddie. He seems to completely ignore anything about covert ops except the "main" reward, even though the biggest reward for most of them is soldier buffs.

>>187032457
*unzips lawsuit*

All this streamer and youtuber retardation makes me think that firaxis told them to intentionally play badly.

EnterElysium is the most entertaining streamer. He's so fucking bad but at least he doesn't waste 20 minutes to finally decide he's going to hunker down behind full cover for the third time.

>>187033787
No.. they're just that retarded.

>>187033787
nigga have you seen LPer types? they pretty much all suck ass

the reason they got keys and such is because of their large audience

>"We gotta get these crates, I need to run. run, run!"
>"Can't afford to be TOO reckless though..."
>Proceeds to continue his usual overwatch crawl

These fucking youtubers are the worst.

>>187034052
>right click, Y
>right click, Y
>right click, Y
>right click, Y
>repeat ad nauseam

>>187033787
>>187033943

Streamers and letsplayers are social creatures by nature, the reason they are "good" is because they exist within social circles of people that talk about the game and know how to play the game, thus they learn and/or adapt.

When a new game comes out and they are given early access, they don't have that crutch, because they have to learn things by themselves, and since they are "exceptional individual" they show their true nature as under performing players and make constant and retarded mistakes. Once the expansion is out and people that know what they are doing tell them how to play with the new classes and stuff you'll see a change in how they play.

tl;dr: Yes they are retarded

>>187032515

Can you headshot with Rend? That's ridonculous if so.

>>187034680
Don't believe so, melee attacks don't count for it.

>>187034680
No, it's only standard shots that trigger Headshots.

>>187032226
bahroo while shit sometimes, was doing some stupid (in a good way) shit with the templar at times, including that switching with a defence matrix sentry clip

>>187034680
If they get reaper you could rend -> reaper -> rend ad naseum vs Lost

But they also have a pistol with infinite ammo. And if there's only 1 lost you can kill, you could rend -> move up a ladder and block it off

>>187035332
>>187034680
>>187035174

Although shotguns get a bonus against lost, right?

>>187037749
Nope, why would they?

if xcom operatives wore nail polish, what color would it be?

>>187039112
Snek-blood yellow.

>>187032340
Advent Troop=Frontline Units
Advent Officers=Commanders
Advent Stunlancer=Crowd control/scouts
Advent Shieldbearer=Combat support
Advent Purifier=Crowd control
Advent Priest=Psionic support units
Advent MEC=Heavy infantry
Sectoids=Psionic infantry
Viper=Harasser/ganker infantry
Muton=shock trooper
Archon=Aerial assault
Spectre= Special operations
Berserker=melee assault
Codex=disabler/harasser
Chryssalid=terror unit
Faceless=infiltration
Andromedon=specialized heavy infantry
Sectopod=heavy tank unit
Gatekeeper=psionic heavy unit

>>187039504
that's kind of a gross color for the pic I'm drawing, so I'll go with black

>>187040561
When your day job involves ripping out snek guts, you've gotta be practical.

>>186998954
I'm worried about the state of mods as a result of this. If shaders were rebuilt for WotC, won't that mean mods will now need to release a WotC and a non WotC version as a result?

How's the enemy variety in Xcom 2?

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How would you feel about missions where the goal is to find and defeat a boss-level enemy? Things like more Alien Rulers (Sectoid Prime, Muton Centurion, Faceless Amalgamation, etc), a facility Core with defensive turrets and guards, and unique enemies like a gigantic prototype walker war machine similar to pic related?

>>187042006
pretty much every enemy fights slightly differently, which is what matters

some autists are mad the alien human hybrids are prevalent enemies

>>187039932
>Special operations
>Aka: The military label for 'we don't know what this guy does, but people die when he does it.'

So what interests me the most in WOTC is the perks rookies get with each other to give them some synergy. Are their any known examples of that yet?

>>187039932
>Special Operations
>the label for "we don't know what you do and we don't care, as long as you do it to the other guy"

>>187042264
Spec ops=Edgy stealth units that do weird shit
Spectre=Edgy stealth unit that does weird shit

>>187027904
>Watching Advent in city center
>We are concealed, they don't know we are here
>Gatekeeper just SMASHES through walls
>Scetopod walks through a building cutting it in half.
>Advent hop through windows instead of doors.

>>187042240
Advent enemies are shitty and boring and if you like them you need to fuck off back to red.dit.

>>187042849
not an argument

>>187042849
>everything I hate and everyone who doesn't hate it with me is reddit!

At least you didn't also scream that they're casual autistic keks.

>>187027904
Hey, THEY know who broke them

>>187027904
>andromedon stumbles into car and shreds his armor

>>187043003
>>187043073
>I like shitty human enemies

Lmao

>>187043792
more sophistry

I am convinced this guy who asked the enemy variety question and the guy reeing about advent are one in the same.

https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/184944396/#185086375

>>187043792
They're not humans, they only look kinda humanish.

>>187044217
>"We'll use these mass produced hybrid soldiers to subjugate the humans!"
>"Aww fuck, I put a decimal point in the wrong spot! Now their eyes are all fucked!"
>"It's fine, we'll just give them snazzy, angular masks. Humans are stupid, they wont question it."

>>187043792
also not an argument

>>187042006
Worse than Xcom EU/EW.

No Ethereals, a bunch of shitty humanoid boring enemies.

>samefagging

worse than boreposter desu

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>>187045021
CEASE THIS TROLLING

Personally I do like that they brought back Snakemen, even if the Vipers are waifu bait.

Chances of new TFTD Loberstermen being sexualized in the same way?

>>187045418
I don't think Vipers were intentional. I think they wanted to do a retro throwback but slightly different. The breasts also alter their silhouette, which makes them more visually distinct.

>>187045418

0, those fucking things only exist to cause terror and trigger people.

>>187042136
Like what Phoenix point is trying to do? Sounds cool desu.

>>186997446
I love the cheesy voice lines. My first Psi OP was a nerdy looking dweeb constantly saying "I PIERCE ALL"

But he was taken seriously after it was shown that he could fuck up some ays.

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>>187045418

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>>187045418
Could happen.

>>187045418
>chitinous exoskeletons
>sexual
please no

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Joey voice mod pack when?

>>187046590
Jesus what is wrong with this guy

>>187042240

Pod selection is alittle more randomized.

Still it seems balanced with one alien or robot unit with 3-4 troops.

>>187045418

Imagine.

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TEMPLARS

Are Advent burgers really that good?

>>187027904
I always through that was pretty straight baller in a totalitarian way. What are you as an ADVENT citizen gonna do if a full patrol of soldiers just casually smashes through one window in your living room to just save walking an extra 50 feet?

>>187048960
It's weird, we see advent citizens milling around but we never see them doing anything. And when the firefights start they just kinda stand around, not even moving for cover or evacuation.

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>>187048960
>CITIZEN, DUE TO A MILITARY HOUSING SHORTAGE YOUR RESIDENCE WILL NOW BE SHARED WITH ----1 VIPER---- PATROL UNIT UNTIL MORE SUITABLE HOUSING CAN BE CONSTRUCTED. FOOD FOR YOUR NEW HOUSEGUEST WILL BE PROVIDED BY THE LOCAL ADMINISTRATION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION.

>>187049183
I assume the latter part is because having them run around could be distracting/cause cover to end up being stolen etc.

>>187049414
But the third amendment!

Templar's pistol is useless

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>>187050386
>>187050465
But the second Amendment- Oh right.

>avenger defense
>reveal the pod behind the emitter
>the gatekeeper in said pod walks through the emitter on scamper, destroying it

had meself a chuckle there.

>>187050997
>Sectopod walks over cars killing it's own squad

Can't wait to do a grim horizons playthrough

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>>187050465
>>187050962
them's human laws, boy

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>>187049414
>incidents of Vipers constricting and forcing themselves on the male inhabitants of the house skyrocket

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>>187051808
I know they were just cosmetic/health changes for the most part but I wish we saw alternate/upgrade variants of the aliens more in X-Com 2, with additional abilities of course so they weren't just fancier higher HP variants.

LW2 does that sorta, but I mean it'd be nice if the basegame had something like that going on.

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>>187050947
Its a pistol, dude, its a backup weapon for a melee class that gets various ranged attackers/other abilities from doing melee

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Can vipers even talk? Can any of the ADVENT aliens talk or do the civilians just keep their head down and go to the nearest trooper if they have a question?

Most fan stories of course make it out that the Vipers can't speak human languages/can mostly just hiss but I've not seen much official info/tidbits that indicate anything in particular.

>>187052493
Most likely, they are stated to be intelligent creatures and we know thin men were capable of speaking multiple languages

>>187045021
With the exception of the cloaking squid thing, didn't they bring back every unit from EU/EW? I know the Cyberdisc isn't back but the Gatekeeper is white and floaty enough.

>>187050947
They're pretty good, how else are you gonna fight the lost?

>>187052580
Seeker, Mectiod and technically Drones

It would have been nice to see a Outsider variant piloting the UFOs

>>187048519
Star Trek actors in WotC:
>John De Lancie
>Michael Dorn
>Marina Sirtis
>Jonathan Frakes

Plus one I'm not sure about:
>Denise Crosby

Is Jake the Star Trek fan you think?

>>187052493
>>187052543
Don't vipers lack some of the necessary parts for intelligible human speech? Or are we just handwaving that in favor of all sci-fi creatures can speak for the sake of convenience? I imagine they're intelligent enough but would need some sort of speech-generating device.

>>187053257
>John De Lancie
Who is he playing? Is this a potential license to print free memes?

>>187052493

>Can vipers even talk?

There are unused voice files for vipers in the SDK. So yes they can, they sound kinda spooky.

>>187053280
Who knows? They have lungs and a tongue at least

>>187053394
Sure don't link a video of them or anything

>>187053586
Don't you know? Undocumented claims are part and parcel of chan culture

ok

>>187042849

I don't mind the ADVENT troops being the bottom of the food chain, which they are. It drives home what the aliens are in the process of doing with humanity, which is turning it into another one of its slave races (except for the bodies they'll make for themselves).

It might be different if ADVENT troops were the biggest and baddest enemies in the game, but as it stands they're just the bottom part of the pyramid - the largest proportion, but also the least glamorous.

>>187053382
Geist.

>>187050997
>"defend the transmitter" mission
>encounter Gatekeeper for the first time
>Gatekeeper moves through transmitter, destroying it

rude

>>187053773
The Officers seem to stand at the top of the alien chain due to giving out orders to all of the alien forces on the ground.

>>187054135

I mean in terms of power. I don't know what the hierarchy is, if any, in lore.

>>187053586

Well excuse me princess, i can't just snap my fingers and make the video appear inside your skull.

https://youtu.be/SISf8Mplgrg

There are more in the SDK, they are AKevents(Unreal sound file thingamajigs) called ViperVox this and that.

>>187054673
Oh, then Sectopods would be at the top.

>>187027337
Are you retarded?
A single cell is enough to get a sample of your DNA

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>>187055096
*samples your DNA*

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I don't know what exactly is wrong with my propaganda machine, but when I load in Bradford he shows up as a black guy.

What is happening here?

>>187056557
We wuz Central an shiet
idk anon, the photobooth is screwy

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Bradford is kinda hot.

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>>187056667
He certainly loads normally in the main game still so I guess they just forgot to add his unique stuff to the photobooth.
Also: I want to dress everyone in his outfit, give me a fucking combat sweater and tactical turtlenecks

>>187056557
I was getting that too. No idea what the fuck Jake broke.

>>187056967
>I want to dress everyone in his outfit,
There are mods that allow you to gain access to his clothes

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>bradford misses the sweater

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>>187056967
I prefer him in what the troops wear.

>>187049414

Where are we going to get that many mice?!

>>187049183

Because the elders made sure their turn gets skipped.

>>187054701
The SDK has a lot of interesting things in it, like sound files, recorded by Jake, that appear to be coming from the Commander's perspective
>"BRADFORD?"
>"What about the aliens!?"

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>>187056557
>bald, green outfit

I wonder if it's somehow related to the bug where if you reload when psi-zombies are up and the game just kind of turns them all (or random ones, I forget) into bald XCOM troops with green kevlar. Regardless of whether they were XCOM or not.

Pic related. You can see some "XCOM" troops in there, but they're actually ADVENT. All of my troops were in power armor by the time ADVENT's fuckboi mobile finally caught up to me.

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>>187053280

They are like 90% throat. They spit acid and can pull a grown man in combat armor over 20 feet without him touching the ground.

I'm sure somewhere in that human nightmare of a mouth is a larynx

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>>187058856

>>187058239
Daddy

>>187054776

I'd say sectoids and gatekeepers.

Actually if we are talking about rank hierarchy it probably goes from non psionic units to most psionic units. So a sectoid probably outranks a commander while a gatekeeper outranks everyone short of an avatar.

Of course, I imagine a gatekeeper giving commands to people probably causes them to bleed out of every hole in their face.

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Release the DLC Jake

>>187059416
That depends on the gatekeeper's own sentience though. What if they're just big lobotomized psychic powerhouses.

>>187054701

Kind of sexy

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>>187055854
Needs more cute sneks

>>187058361
Mice? More like boars.

5 more days

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How do I reset this campaign number indicator that appears when loading a game? In anticipation for WotC expansion pack I want to reset this campaign counter to zero.

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>when the dlc releases the day before you get paid so you still have to wait at least half a day or so

>>187059539

The elders and advent have such a hard on for psionics that they probably would still give rank.

>Captain! Commander DeathBall accidently flew into an apartment building and now all the citizens are blind in one eye and claiming to smell toast.
>*Sigh* Pack them all up to the gene clinics, then. By commander DeathBall's orders.

>>187060042
Delete the profile file in your save folder

Are vanilla kitbash armour mods safe from breaking with the expansion or do they get the shader and texture problems too?

ABA's site has been updated with his Wotc stuff, including all the prime info. Looks like he forgot to add images for them though

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I know it's a bit low res, but I could only make out four of the five ADVENT mooks. I see a Officer, Trooper, Shieldbearer, and Stunlancer, but whose the fifth?

>>187060279
>Viper Prime
>Her specialty is Grab and Run, a unique take on the tongue grab action. After pulling an enemy, she won’t bind him and potentially set herself up as an easy target. Instead, she will pull that soldier, then run away into cover. That leaves the soldier as an easy target for the Viper’s allies.

Hahah

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>>187060135
>>187060042
Is it this file? I never fucking know where save files are stored in Windows 10.

>>187060091
At least you'll probably not get the release day slowdown.

>>187060401
Yes

>>187060367
Could be the purifier?

>>187060367

Kinda looks like a Purifier. Different weapon from the other guys too.

>>187060431
yeah hopefully, has anyone mentioned the exact download size for it yet?

>>187060279
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPDgTC6XXQ8

Here's the video DerBK made showing the new primes. Beware though, DerBK is speaking in this, which means you'll have to listen to a German with a shitty mic and a cold

>>187000246

this is taken from reddit

-----Corpses only used for research - aka sell'em when you complete research: -----
ADVENT MEC: sell'em. (after 1 is used for research is implied, repeating just to make sure). Instant:4/7
ADVENT Officer: Sell them all Instant:10/20
ADVENT Shieldbearer: Sell the bastards. Instant:4/7
ADVENT Turret: Sell those babies after research is done. Instant:3/6
Andromedron: Sell those bastards. Instant:5/8
Archon: Sell. Instant:5/8
Muton: sell em all after research. Instant:6/9
Sectopod: Sell em after research. Instant:6/9
-----Corpses with uses other then research: -------------------------------
ADVENT Stun lancer: plan 2-3 per each Spider suit, sell the rest. Instant:6/9
ADVENT Trooper: These bastards have many uses, 2-4 for Hybrid Materials research and 6-12 for Predator Armor research, also 2-3 per Nanoscale Vest and 2-4 per EXO suit, plan how many you want and sell the rest. Instant:15/25
Chryssalid: 2 for each Hellweave vest- you know what to do with rest :) . Instant:15/20
Berserker: 2 for Overdrive Serum if you don't plan to use it - sell, if you are a serum chugger save em. Instant:6/9
Faceless: 2 per each mimic beacon that you want to make, rest can be sold. Instant:4/7
Gatekeeper: 1-2 per Alien Psi Amp. Instant:6/9
Sectoid: 1-2 for each mindshield and 2-3 for Advanced Psi Amp. Instant:6/10
Vipers: 2-3 for Medkit and 1-2 per NanoMedkit, sell the rest. Instant:5/8

>>187060496
>>187060549
SDK says it was added in September of 2015

>>187060496
>>187060549
Pretty sure Purifiers don't shoulder their flamethrower as seen in that image though, they hold it underhand like when a Grenadier fires at a target.

>>187060279
Immediately going to remove:
-Chryssalid Hunter/Spitter
-Codex ICE
-Hazard MEC
-Firestarter
-Muton Pyro/Infector
-Kommissar
-Advent Heavy/Wrecker/Gatling trooper
-Viper Mamba/Wyvern

I wonder what variants the new enemies are going to get

>>187060816

So what? The Lost were already on the game files before the expansion existed.

>>187061846
Because the unit to the right of the Shieldbearer has a purple mask

>>187061846
If I recall, the lost game files were just references and basically a garbled mess of scraps of data previously. Heh. The game code for the lost was originally in the same state as their own genetic code.

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>>187059257

>>187061995

What? His helmet is the same color as the officer armor.

Anyone else like using the ADVENT helmets on their soldiers? Every other game with customizable characters I always ignore headgear but I really like using the ADVENT helmets in this, their designs are really cool.

>>187063015
I plan to put one on Mox.

>>187063015
I use Captain and Stun Lancer helms on some soldiers

>>187063015
I sometimes give grenadiers the Trooper -> Stun Lancer -> Andromedon helm progression

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>>187060367
Ripped version

Four days plus or minus a few hours until release! Assuming of course the game launches at either midnight or 9 AM PDT as most Steam games do.

Are you ready to get cucked by the Chosen in a massive ayy threeway?

>>187063412
Shieldbearer, avatar, captain, stun lancer, and trooper. Nothing new here.

>>187063412
It looks like the Captain and Shieldbearer have a Avatar-like mask behind their helms

>>187063412
Is that... an avatar without the goofy hair next to the shieldbearer on the left side?

>>187063412
What the hell does that smaller text say in the middle and bottom? That font is terrible.

>>187063280
>>187063396
Stunlancer is my favorite, love the glowing dome. My Rangers usually get that one. Captain I really like because of how tall and regal it looks, it goes onto my Sharpshooters.

>Sustaining Sphere
>Literally Sustain as an item
>If your soldier takes a deadly hit, goes into Sustain
>One use item
>This is balanced on the same level as "pop a conceal"

>>187063565
But Avatars aren't supposed to be known by the general public, so why is ADVENT printing them on their propaganda posters?

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>>187063645
It looks like a much older version of the mask and armor

>>187063778
Because at that stage of development it was just a trooper variant by the looks of things

>>187063778

Because its cut content. The mask is different, so is the gun, doesn't have the hair, armor is red. That dude is probably what is now the Priest.

>>187063645
The only similarities is the Mask and even then the masks are different

>>187064250
The suit is the same, just a different color.

>>187064618

The chest and the shoulders are different. At least the texture is, Avatars don't have those white stripes.

How big is the DLC again? If the codes are gonna be mostly new, is it gonna be almost as big as the base game?

>>187034052
>Gives a ranger all the blade master skills
>Never charged with the ranger or even does a melee attack.

What's worse is that these are youtubers who have been playing xcom since EU atthe least.

I especially like when Christopher odd sas 'oops' when he brings up the main menu mid game.

We know you save scummed, Odd. Don't pretend you didn't edit it out.

>>187064738
It's basically XCOM2.5