/xcg/ - XCOM General

Pistols

>>186791938
The Andromedon and Gatekeeper primes are absolutely magnificent

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>>186794505
Next OP must fix video links. Stop be lazy guys.

>>186794505
Viper King please let us enjoy your harem

>>186790718
Do late game enemies hit too hard for a non-MEC soldier to absorb the accidental overwatch that slips past lightning reflexes?

>>186794984
In Long War? Yeah you don't want to be tanking alot of those shot, and if you don't have the right gear, enemies have opportunist and can crit you (but there is a vest to negate crits). Furthermore, there may be multiple overwatches, which the tanking power comes even more in handy for.

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Is there anything better than halocom?
I'm really surprised how good the armor ports over to xcom. Why does it work so well?

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>>186794505

>>186795728
Titanfall

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>>186795728
Its great

>>186795728
>I'm really surprised how good the armor ports over to xcom. Why does it work so well?
I ask this myself all the time
>Carpace armor in XCOM 1.
Yeah ok, looks good
>Carapce armor in XCOM2
Damn this looks niiiiiiiice

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>>186795793

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>>186795945

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPDgTC6XXQ8

Is it just me or does he sound fat? like he can't catch his breath.

>>186795728
Pretty much the only way I play. I just wish there was more stuff.

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>>186795728
There is an issue with the shading/texture for the forearms in the propaganda center so hopefully that gets fixed for wotc

>>186796105
Sounds more like assburgers to me.

I should know

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Was I supposed to bring a fusion torch or something to force entry?

>>186796727
No, they aren't actually in the ship. That mission is confusing as hell, it doesn't end once you incapacitate all the enemies. Just kill or knockout (preferably KO) the two or so enemies on the map, and then stuff them on your ship or that ship and evac.

>Take only full infiltration missions
>sneak to objective
>four billion pods around objective
>two sectoids that will fuck my asshole get revealed because they were spotted off the reflection of a pretzel and they weren't noticed before because a bag of chips blocked the LOS of 4 ADVENT
>Call EVAC
>wait to see how many soldiers die before EVAC arrives

Is this basically LW2?

>>186797039
Huh. I could have sent the rookies if I'd known that. Why do I even need to climb the tower when I can use my own ship to evac?

>>186797486
Sometime the wizard spawns up there.

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Wakaliwood voice mod when

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEoGrbKAyKE

>>186795907
Full Halo conversion when?

Berserker Queen seems broken in WOTC at the moment. Activating her while being out of sight allowed sharpshooter to shoot away most of her health with Squadsight, leading to an easy kill. Unless that always was a thing.

>>186798289
Even out of LOS, the queen would still have a ruler reaction in vanilla, I think.

>>186798289

All Rulers broke like this, if you don't trigger their pod, you can easily potshot them

Go figure if they'll have it fixed before release

>>186798486
By the new rules Rulers don't react on out of LOS actions, but she was just standing there taking hit after hit.
>>186798575
This one was triggered though, with a mimic beacon.

>>186798852

Well, the idea is that Rulers don't react to things they can't see

For some reason, Firaxis didn't think of the edge case of "offensive action hits the Ruler from a target he can't see"

In that case, he should definitely get a free action, otherwise you can cheese the facility with a Phantom Ranger/Reaper and 5 squadsight Snipers

>>186799036
Which is weird, because regular pods are at least running around after being shot at.

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I don't see what could possibly go wrong with this. I like how you can use it one-handed for only a minor penalty to accuracy.

>>186800283
If you have a full tac suit, it's not "too" risky.

>Counterattack
>ADVENT units have a chance to enter Overwatch after being revealed

>Wild Hunt
>The Chosen are much more likely to appear in combat

>Barrier
>Enemy tech and Psionic defenses are doubled

We're reaching levels of Dark Event magnificence not seen before

>>186800554
How could Lump ever compete?

>>186800283
Instant smokescreen.

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Post yfw you never bought the DLC so your WOTC campaign won't be littered with stupid bullshit

>>186801597

Here's your (You), free of charge

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>>186801597

>more alien ruler type bosses that look like shitty mass effect aliens
>new classes look edgy as fuck
>3 new enemies, 2 of them are boring Advent mooks and the other is just a codex reskin
>shitty zombies added for no reason
>still no fucking Ethereals even though they were the only enemy missing from the first game
>balance is still fucked, game becomes trivial and boring because of all the OP shit the rulers and chosen give you
>still unoptimized crap

Expansion is shit. It's shit.

>>186796180
I hope it's just a texture import issue because the center uses base WotC settings and the game automatically imports for you.

>>186800283
Damn thing's useless. Never procs full damage for me.

>>186804510
Can't fucking wait until this meme runs its course and people start posting something else.

>>186806072

You'll have to wait at least a month after the expansion hits when all the /v/ shitters go back to their hole.

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>no Ethereals in Xcom 2

Why

>>186806686

They got the aids.

>>186803631
why does mr rogers have tumblr hair?

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How do we stop the Eternal Snake?

>>186806919
You can start by giving me a source.

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>>186806686
But they are.

>>186806995
Cloud Meadow

>>186806686
Easily the best enemies in EU/EW damnit

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>>186795793

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>>186807061

Why do people act like The Bureau is the worst game in the XCOM franchise?

RELEASE THE FUCKING EXPANSION

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>avatar zombies don't have hair

What did they mean by this?

>>186806686
>>186807382
This, they could have just modified the archon design for them, at least the gaudiness of it would make sense then

>>186808572
Because it's hardly an xcom game and is average at best. Which probably makes it the worst game in the xcom franchise unless it's competing with interceptor or enforcer, but desu I haven't played or even seen those.

>>186809570
They didn't even give them new models in Xcom 2.

How would you feel if XCOM3 revealed that all of the events of XCOM2 were part of an ADVENT simulation to see what the commander would do if released from captivity?

>>186810318
I'd laugh and toss any hope I had out the window.

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>>186810318
I'd think "gee whiz them aliens sure do like simulating stuff"

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>>186810437
>them aliens sure do like stimulating stuff

>>186810318
What if instead Xcom 3 is ADVENT returning only it turns out they've been conquered by another alien empire

>>186810318

I don't give two diddly fungly doodly squats about the story so i wouldn't care.

>>186810318
Very silly, I can't see them going for the same trick twice. Once in a while is ok, but at some point things need to "move forward" so to speak.

On the other hand, what if in XCOM 3 the events of XCOM 1 happened but XCOM 2 was a simulation? That would be pretty funny, I would be ok with that.

>>186811256
How would XCOM 2 be a simulation though, who, after the first invasion, would think: lets simulate what maybe would have happened if we all failed within a few months of the XCOM project, and lets make the simulation last 20+ years, and also lets include crazy purple guys and zombies.

On the other hand it would make parts of XCOM 2 perhaps more believable

>>186811462
>would think: lets simulate what maybe would have happened if we all failed within a few months of the XCOM project, and lets make the simulation last 20+ years, and also lets include crazy purple guys and zombies.
The Council duh, gotta prepare the commander for any scenario.

>It's a "streamer doesn't block the top of a ladder vs lost" episode
Why do they keep doing this?

>>186812394
>wanting to watch someone use cheese strats
the fuck?

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>>186810318
What if XCom 3 was a snek meeting and mating simulator where you can be either an XCom soldier breeding with as many Vipers as possible or a Viper choosing the perfect human mate?

>>186812737
Then you'd be a faggot. It's not really a what-if though.

>>186810318
XCOM3 will be XCOM taking over *their* planets instead, and every expansion will be a new couple of planets to conquer

>>186813076
Snakes aren't gay, anon. I don't see why you would think that.

>>186813178
>An XCOM-like where you're the aggressor with both sides trying to steal/advance off of one-another's tech
Hmmm

>Odd gives all of his rangers blademaster but never uses sword
why

>>186797368
>sneaking to the objective
Why?

As for evac just throw the flare when you get close to the objective

>>186801619
Excuse my persistence, I'll wait for the memo.

>>186794710
>still no acid viper
>still no frost andromedon

>bunch of recolors with random abilities

The only reason I downloaded ABA was the female Archon and even then, the version from LoversLab is better because it doesn't have the ugly thing on the back like the one in ABA does.

>>186804510
>more alien ruler type bosses that look like shitty mass effect aliens

Have you been paying any attention to the XPAC at all? The Chosen take normal turns

>>186795793
>>186795945
>>186796089
Look just because the Viper King has a frost thing going on doesn't mean he's all about having "a cold one with the boys"

>>186809324
JUST

>>186814315

Chill out pal

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>>186814498

>>186813996
They have bloated hp and bullshit alien ruler reaction.

>>186815097
No they don't. Have you even seen gameplay?

>>186815097
>shitposter is ignorant and dumb
What a twist

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>>186814498
You viper king fanboys need to cool it

>>186815435
Lmao so they're just glorified normal enemies? I thought they were supposed to be boss fights. False advertising then.

>>186813178

In XCOM 3, you play as the Aliens trying to take over the Earth. In XCOM 4 you get kidnapped and XCOM 2 was just a simulation of what would happen if you were a human Commander and had to retake a homeplanet that wasn't yours.
XCOM 1 is canon if you fucked up in XCOM 3. Then the simulation in XCOM 4 is glitching and you wake up as a Fireaxis employee who wants to fug a snek.
The DLC flips the narrative and is about an EXALT terrorist leader waking up from a simulation.

>>186815682
>false advertising
>were never advertised as such
Nice job moving those goalposts btw

>>186815849
They were hyped up and advertised as boss enemies instead they're fight and die like normal enemies. That's called false advertising.

>tfw your squad is Reaper, Skirmisher, Templar, Psi-Op, MEC

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>>186816001

Who else spoiled everything for themself here
I wish I wasn't so impatient

>>186816001
They don't die permanently unless you track down their base and kill them. I don't know what gave you the impression that they were alien rulers.

>>186816413
How is it bait? They were hyped up as elite boss units and it turns out they fight like normal mobs.

Look at the gameplay vids, they even have less health than Avatars and Sectopods.

>Bore of the Chosen btfo again

>>186816965
Give me your prerelease copy if you don't want it pls

>>186798852
>>186798486
>>186798289

I haven't been keeping up with all the videos, but the impression I've gotten is that alien rulers *only* get reactions in WotC, and no actions of their own.

When combined with their adjusted rules to only get reactions on units they can see, this would mean that alien rulers out of LOS are unable to react and inherently unable to proact. This isn't a technical error - it's an oversight, and one I'm very surprised Firaxis didn't see coming.

Looks like haven rookies are dumb enough to hug a burning car. On the other hand, losing the haven defense will only reduce the income, no need to make contact again. No info on retaliation.

>>186809324

It wasn't anime hair at all! It was pure psionic energy radiating from their head!

What shit specifically causes the invisible pistols/sword sheaths glitch? Some people are saying Evac All, others are saying Speedup mods, others are saying Alien Hunters.

I've got all of those uninstalled and they're still not showing up

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Am I ready for Long Dong 2™?

>>186809324
>having a magcannon in waterworld
Maximum pleb.

>>186818489
no one is ready for long dong 2

>>186818489
This is going to be a lot easier with the basic weapon upgrade breakthroughs DESU

>>186818489
It's fun but you'd never finish in time

>>186819898
No kidding. I never decided to do this. I mean, there isn't even a requirement for a higher difficulty, so you can just cheese it on Rookie. But I want to at least do it on Commander if not Legend. As long as you finish the story missions fast enough, force level doesn't get high enough to ever make it impossible.

ODD BRING YOUR FUCKING TEMPLAR ON MISSIONS

>>186820432
He's too busy jerking off over his Reaper waifu

>>186820432
there's no hope for him after watching him on the ambush mission

>>186820432
Nope, it can't overwatch-camp, so it's useless to him.
Odd's all about them blue-moves, yo. Running around at Close range ain't his style. Even if the class is built around close-range combat.

>>186821819
He doesn't even bring it to a mission against the lost. It has a fucking pistol and an AOE.

>>186821881
Does Templar refill his AP by killing Lost?

>>186821881
I think the main problem is that his current Templar is only a squaddie, and thus doesn't appear at the top of his soldier-listings. He probably keeps forgetting he exists because he doesn't immediately see the class when he opens up the barracks.
It really sucks compared to back in EW, when bringing along at least one squaddie on a mission was pretty much mandatory.

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I think he posted yesterday, and he is doing his first steam today, in case you wanted to give him some views:
twitch tv/bloodydoves

>>186822094
Pistol kill refunds AP
I'm not sure about sword kills, although if templar ever gets reaper, reaper + between the eyes = confirmed lost WIPE.
Templars also get the new and improved bladestorm.

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Why is there no mods replacing the aliens with covenant?

>>186823096
because gaylo is overrated

>>186823096
I've been wondering this myself. And Covenant weapons when?

Joinrbs is about to do a July HQ mission in his LW2 no gun techs campaign, if you want to tune in for a mission that's likely to crash and burn the meme train.

>>186813670
Does he give them bladestorm? Because that's probably why.

>>186813670
For same reasons he keeps overwatching Lost i suppose.
>>186823762
Still, there surely were situations where the blade could be better than the shotgun.

>tfw the game decides to give me multiple smash and grabs/supply raids right as im finishing up research for new weapons
thanks Lump

>>186824227
Well now you can afford new guns

>Thin men were all women
What did Jake mean by this?

>>186825158
The ayys realized the potential of straight white male privilege in an infiltrator. After "reforming" society they returned to form.

>>186823545
>rookie survives multiple flank shots and lives with 1 HP
god damn

>>186826454
a true patriot

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Soon you shall know the true anguish that can be inflicted on those who defy the gods.

>>186826879
ur a faget
rekt lmao
vgilio configlio

Is WotC supposed to come with performance improvements as well?

>>186827116
You illiterate fool, how can XCOM possibly succeed when they do not know their own motto? I am the Elder's most loyal champion, they have favored me with their blessing.

It is only a matter of time until I fulfill my destiny and return you to my masters.

>>186827247
>loading times are 90% faster in WotC
I'd guess so...

>>186826454
>>186826782
unstumpable

Remember to look after your soldiers.

https://youtu.be/ldNSMnEeKio

>>186828327
>orgasm noises
Always thought it was weird how pain and pleasure were expressed in the same way.

>>186827247
No, another lie by Jake "3.3 million" Howard.

Bore of the Chosen is a dumpster fire

Is there any WOTC streamer using sparks? I have yet to see the changes they made to them.

I know their weapons can take mods now, can they use the training center?

>>186828823
>can they use the training center?
No. Jake in fact told us that SPARKS cannot love you with their cold metallic hearts. You can only bond with living soldiers. Expect an early mod to fix that though.

>>186829020
Why does Jake hate robots?

>>186829224
they fucked his mother

>>186829020
Sparks can't bond but they also don't suffer exhaustion

>>186829020
>No. Jake in fact told us that SPARKS cannot love you with their cold metallic hearts. You can only bond with living soldiers.

I'm gonna make Julian and bond him to SPARK-001 and no-one can stop me. Once the appropriate mod comes out, at least.

>>186829224
Because Jake lives off your tears.

>>186829547
True. I wasn't saying SPARKS are bad, just answering a question. I honestly feel like SPARKs are pretty solid really.

>>186829606
Kinda lame how the DLC missions are disabled by default in wotc

>>186829606
I want a mod that lets you choose bonds

>>186829920
I got tired of doing Shen's Legacy so many fucking times anyway

>>186830101
It's that goddamn elevator. Shit takes forever

>>186829020
I mean for grabbing extra skills, not for bonding.

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Which Chosen are you going to hunt down first? I'll probably go for THE ELDER'S MOST LOYAL CHAMPION

I plan on buying this game and the DLC's when the newest DLC comes out. What am I in for?

Also. what are the do's and don'ts of xcom 2?

I know in xcom enemy unknown, you never want to dash on the last soldiers turn because you can risk activating a enemy group.

Is the same true here? What are also some newb traps or things that may seem good on the surface but DOG shit in practice?

>>186831015
Also no, unfortunately they don't get any XCOM skills. They should be fine with what they get though. Being able to shoot three times with overdrive is pretty solid since they can get better aim now. Their health and armor is also better, so they can actually tank now and probably what has always been the best part of them, they are mobile cover and Advent still loves to use them as cover if they can.

>>186831237
And yeah, this means they don't have access to their other Tree, like regular soldiers. You only get to pick one.

>>186831168
Whichever is the adversary of my first faction.

Tempted to keep the MOST LOYAL CHAMPION in the running for waterworld.

>>186831237
Not even grabbing both sides of their skill tree?

>>186831423
They don't get AP, so no.

>>186831423
I'm guessing that Sparks will be mostly useful based on their raw stats, not their perks.

>>186828627
>Literally every streamer praising how much smoother the game runs and you can see it from watching their streams

Man, do you ever get tired of being a contrarian little shit?

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>>186831168
>denying the ELDER'S MOST LOYAL CHAMPIONS full potential
you are supposed to save him for last

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>>186831395
>>186831619
So letting him be your arch nemesis for the whole campaign, good idea.

>>186829606
>Not giving SPARK-001 to julian

>chosen don't have autopsies

The fuuuuuuuckk

>>186832764
You autopsy their weapons instead, which tells you something about them.

So are you going to hunt down the Chosen in your first WotC playthrough or let them live to the final mission?

>>186832975
the natural progression of the game includes killing them
you have to actively avoid killing them for that to happen, which most people wont do

>>186832975
Hunt them. It's way harder not to. Trying to kill all three in Water World is going to be insane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPDgTC6XXQ8

>>186832764
It doesn't tell us about their biology though.

>>186833108
Especially if they respawn during that mission. I can't imagine it being very fun even on rookie.

>>186833537
>two viper feet
change that to viper tail

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>>186833537

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>>186833857
Better?

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>>186834228

>>186834295
What is this meme, anyway?

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>>186831187

[please respond senpais]

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>>186834228

>>186831187
>what are the do's and don'ts of xcom 2?

You're under a timer for most missions, which means you have to KEEP MOVING. Overwatch crawling your way through the map won't work. That doesn't mean you should be charging around like a lunatic - yellow-moving into the fog is still a dumb idea - but you'll need to get used to continually pushing forwards, taking risks, aggressively looking for flanking shots and the like.

>>186831187
>>186834386
Be more aggresive, don't overwatch crawl, keep an eye on the timers, get the Guerila Tactics School and Advanced Warface Center asap, make sure to keep regularly keep the Avatar Project timer down

So if I'm playing LW2 and my soldiers are still an average level of like 2, and I get near the objective, and basically all the pods are patrolling just the objective, I should basically just fuck off and go home?

>>186831187
download essential QoL mods first of all

>>186834376
Donald Trump was asked by a reporter soon after announcing his campaign for president what he had to say to "undocumented" (illegal) immigrants living in the US. He replied "you have to go back."

>>186834609
You should be killing the enemies long before seeing the objective.

>>186831187
>What am I in for?
Dressup, mods, timers, vigilo confido

>Is the same true here? What are also some newb traps or things that may seem good on the surface but DOG shit in practice?
The difference is that you can't retreat or just sit tight overwatching. You have to keep moving foward. Use concealment to double dash safeley as long as possible (ie, when you hit your first pod) then wipe that pod.
However, the timers should be more flexible with the new expansions missions.

Flashbangs are extremely useful, shotguns are still your friends, marksman are still good but they are not the gods they were in XCOM1.

The lose condition is letting the AVATAR project finish. Keep unlocking regions towards alien facilities, and advance the story as necessary since story missions and objectives push back avatar progress.

However, keep in mind that lots of things are going to change with the expansion, so things are going to be shaken up for a bit, and the perfect answer won't immediately be available.

>>186834597

it seems hard to not overwatch crawl.. so many deadly enemies it seems.

>>186834597
Just take down pods one at a time, kill the first pod you see on each mission, don't get trapped between them

>>186834857
You are given plenty of tools to wipe advent off the face of earth reliably and efficiently.

>>186834857
in 2 youre generally gonna have a phantom scout to find the nearest pod
instead of overwatch crawling, youre gonna want to move your soldiers as close as possible to that pod and overwatch so that they hopefully patrol into you

with the timer in mind though, sometimes youre just gonna have to activate them on your own turn

>large ships flying everywhere
>raid one with transport
>24 enemies but gauss loot everywhere
>raid the other with 1 gal because that's what I got
>21 enemies but identical loot bonanza
>raid 1 medium a few hours later
>open door to find no cover, slowdown grass everywhere, and my very first cyberdisk 20 tiles away
I just shut the fucking door and left. Those things are absolute niggers, I don't care what it's guarding.

>>186809860
Wrong, the Ethereal model in XCOM 2 is much higher res and you can actually see their faces.

>but I don't think ethereals have faces

SHUT UP.

>try to play xenonauts
>get bored and quit
every time

>>186836012
>xenobore

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>>186834228

I do admire the work you put into this.

>>186834943
>instead of overwatch crawling, youre gonna want to move your soldiers as close as possible to that pod and overwatch so that they hopefully patrol into you

What are you, an asshole? That's terrible advice, it's the only case in which the enemy can shoot you on its reveal turn.

>>186836257
>tedionauts

>>186836461
>>186836257
seriously it makes me sad because I want to enjoy it

>>186836380
obviously you dont want to do that while concealed anon
but its very good if your soldiers are unconcealed

>>186836520
OXCOM is superior in every way.

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What the fuck went wrong?

>>186836792
Ethereals got aids so they knew their only cure was anime hair human bodies, first they came for the weebs

>>186831168
None. From all the gameplay I've seen, it'd be much more fun to fight all three at once

>>186809324
Because Avatars were originally supposed to be an ADVENT Psychic, but FXS got lazy at the last second and made them the big baddies

>>186837942
it's time to stop

>>186837942

How do you figure?

>>186838014
>>186838021
They're literally named ADVENT Psi Witch in the game files you fucking morons. It's obvious they were supposed to be generic advent psychic mooks but they didn't have enough budget to make actual ethereal enemies so they just turned these guys into shitty end-game enemies.

It makes perfect sense since the Ethereals don't need Psi Amps.

>>186838373

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that they are Advent Psi Witches. Y'know, just throwing that out there.

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>>186838373
dumbest post in this entire thread desu

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>>186838373

>>186838634
They're Ethereals though. The name ADVENT Psi Witch sounds like it was meant for a generic advent mook that's just psychic.

>>186838638
Shut the fuck up Jake. Go jerk off to your shitty edgelord classes.

>>186838785
>uhhhh why does an ethereal need a Psi Amp?
>because i-it's part of the lore!!

>>186838373
>>186839163

>muh psi amp

Do you know what the word "amplifier" means? Dumb bore poster.

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>>186839163
>>they didn't have enough budget to make actual ethereal enemies
>but somehow had enough budget to make a bunch of cutscenes explaining the avatar project in detail and incorporating an ethereal apparition
naming them psi witches was just so idiots like yourself wouldn't immediately spoil the identity of the avatar projuect
do you even know what an amplifier is?
I swear, /xcg/ has spawned the absolute most retarded shitposters lately

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>>186838373
You realize you have no evidence of this right?

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>>186839254
>>186839345
Hey retards. Did you forget that Ethereals literally just shot out psychic meme magic out of their hands in the first game without an amplifier? It's pretty obvious that you're just whiteknighting the shittty Avatar design.

>>186839819

I don't want to alarm you but you are the stupidest man on earth.

>>186839819
The psi amp is a call back to the original game. Had you played it you would know this.

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Cute Snek.

>>186839819

The only thing shitty here is your continued existence in this general.

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>>186839982

>>186806686
>And I did it for YOU, the people.

>>186840305
Get your bacon grease!

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>>186794592

Useful.

>>186841401
>Dominatah
>Useful
It might be worse than the gantz pistol

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>>186839982
That's a pretty cute girl right there

>>186839819
Settle down beavis its just an enemy model

>>186837942
>>186838373
>>186838634
>>186838785
>>186838638
>>186839254
>>186839661

Not the same anon, but I swear I remember robojumper posting in the modding Discord that he was looking at the ADVENT propaganda posters a while ago, and made note at how some blatantly depicted the Avatar, even though it's supposed to be the ayys super sekrit project

>>186841917
maybe its something thats only unlocked after killing the first one
XCOM basically rubbing in the Elder's face that they killed one of them

>>186839819
>Etherials look all dignified and shit
>Then Vahlen turns on the rape machine

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>My Avatar Can't Be This Cute?!

>>186842064
>thin men just sit there and chill
Thin mints confirmed more balls than Elders

>>186797875
fucking never.

>>186842241
but their report states that they were quickly broken down by the interrogation, even faster than they initially thought it would take

>>186842310
That's because of Vahlen's feminine touch

>>186842241
Thin Men are female and don't have balls

>>186842454
The elders perfected trannies

>>186838373

Yes. That is obviously the perfectly sensible explanation.

Wait if you integrate the DLCs for WOTC it disables the story mode? So you have to build your own spark and shit?

>>186845907
The default mode disables the story missions. So yeah, you would build your own stuff. If you want the story missions, you just select the correct check boxes.

>>186845907
If you disable the alien ruler mission then they'll show up as you progress through the campagin.

If you turn off Shen's mission then you'll be able to build SPARKS in the proving ground after you breakdown a Advent Mec

>>186846564
From what I've seen of WOTC you can build them as soon as you get proving grounds

I really hope info comes out on what went on behind the scenes for XCOM 2, much like how the pre-vis videos and other miscellaneous info/vids on how XCOM EU/EW came about.

>>186847182
not until XCOM3 is announced desu

>>186841917
What poster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EfgE4NouYA
>buys ionic axe
>doesn't equip it
what did he mean by this

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>>186794505
So who are some really good Xcom 2 players? I still can't get past the midgame on legendary ironman, what are some people I can watch to help learn to play the game?

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>>186839819
So do fresh psiops flare meme magic in their hands when bradford introduces them.

The ethreal niggers just saw that humans can use amps to amplify their potential and there was no reason not to use it to amplyfy their own as well.

Was reading the Long war TVtropes article out of boredom and.

"n the original game, EXALT could be a challenge early on, due to starting with decent gear and some unique powers, and the Covert Ops missions could occasionally be a pain, but whereas the player started developing better equipment and more capable soldiers, EXALT never grew beyond their initial level of power, meaning that they quickly became Money Spiders and little else. In Long War, they grow and gain upgrades at the same rate as the player, and can even field their own versions of your super-elite top-tier soldiers; watch in awe as EXALT Snipers One-Hit Kill you from beyond your visual range, EXALT Heavies demolish entire swaths of cover with Blaster Launchers, and EXALT MECs run down your squishy fleshlings. They also get larger numbers, AND can appear alongside aliens in any missions they'd normally appear in - including Terror Missions!."

Wait, do EXALT actually get MECs later?

I disable them when I play LW

WOTC ending LEAK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URcvdDtnM_0

>>186851050
>Wait, do EXALT actually get MECs later?
no

>Advent MECs are just like XCOM Sparks
>Advent MECs are nothing like XCOM MECs
what did the elder's most loyal champion mean by this?

>>186852508
XCOM was a simulation and Advent MECs were based upon Shen's SPARK.

>be specter
>be nanite swarm
>take human form for no reason other than to hold a gun
>Only maintain human form while stationary... because

Firaxis are creatively bankrupt.

>>186854808
Easily the dumbest enemy in XCOM, it doesn't even match the aesthetic of anything else very well, never mind making no sense.

>>186854808
They move around in human form while patrolling.

>>186854808
They also retain human form when using skills.

chemrail would be a nice addition

>>186854808
it's funny watching the streamers get blown the fuck out by these guys though

>>186855064
>it doesn't even match the aesthetic
Except it does? It looks like and Alien/Advent creation.

>making no sense
How does it make no sense? It just moves around in nanobot form and attacks in full form because it can't do anything when iits a nanoswarm.

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>>186855127
>>186855257
Is that supposed to be an excuse for taking the concept of a nanite swarm and turning it into a generic human in armor?

It's perplexing. This games has enemies like the Viper and Gatekeeper, which are really nice, goofy designs that give it a bit of charm, then they turn around with garbage designs like this fuck, the Avatars and the Chosen. I'm pretty sure we had already filled the quota of boring two-leg enemies.

>>186855470
I hope I can just mod these guys out. Their concept is dumb and they look like a razer gaming product.

>>186855470
Oh, you're just mad that it's a humanoid. Also, nanite swarms usually transform into something.

Avatars and Chosen look fine. They both fit in with the aesthetic. You just hate them because they're humanoid. There's already plenty of non-humanoids in the game. Archon, Viper, Chryssalid, Gatekeeper, sectopod, and advent turrets should keep you happy.

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>>186855470
>it's a "I hate everything humanoid" episode

>>186855574
>their concept is dumb

No it's not.

>people actually hating on the specter

It looks way cooler than the Seekers and mechtoids from EW.

>>186855725
>>186855792
>taking a concept that isn't a humanoid and making it a humanoid is ok, because I can use a strawman to argue in favor of it

12 IQ dumb dumb cupcake brain retards.

>>186858283
>this mad
You've complained about this thread after thread after thread. No one's falling for whatever this is. Nothing's changing. Just go back to /v/ or something.

>>186858485
>You've complained about this thread after thread after thread. No one's falling for whatever this is. Nothing's changing. Just go back to /v/ or something.
Oh God, that reaching. That was my first post in /xcg/ in over two weeks. You seems seriously mad that someone dared to criticize Firaxis, Jake.

>>186858485
To be honest, I like all the enemies in war of the chosen and xcom 2 in general. With two exceptions. The pokeball and the specter.
I'm not the other poster, I think that he should shut up. Because honestly, complaining here changes literally nothing. It's just a weak version of a whiny shitpost. We might not all like it but it's what we're getting.
But them looking like a razor gaming product? Yeah. That was actually the first thing that I thought about when I saw them.

>>186858942
It seems we have multiple posters then.

>>186859060
Yeah, who would have thought that more than one person can share an opinion that contradicts yours, it's almost as if this particular design is quite lazy or something.

>>186858975
>razor gaming product
I can actually see it. Fuck. How do I unsee this?
>>186858942
I'm only telling you the truth. Now fuck off. I'm done replying.

>>186859138
I am literally on your side in how you feel. I am just not in your boat about how you are acting.
>>186859151
I don't know brother. If I could unsee it and I knew how I would tell you.
But there is hope. Perhaps a mod can fix it.

>>186859327
>ABA3
>colors inverted for new Spectre type
>White and Red

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>>186859445

>>186859445
>black and red Spectre who's entire job is nothing personelling your soldiers

>>186859445
PEPSIMAN

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>>186860128
It needs blue too then. I must had admit it would be funny seeing that flying around in a white outfit with a pepsi logo on it's head. Turning into a black pepsi cloud when flying around.

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>>186859445
>>186860625
>Pepsiman Spectre
>PEPSIMAN plays on reveal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_9SsX7HJhE
>plays high pitched "maaaaaan" when moving as bees
>sodafies your soldier when making copies

I know there's a voicepack already, but I can't wait for the mod.

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>>186860837
He looks diffirent then I thought. I fucked up and saved it as jpg first. So it lost a lot of quality. But pic very related

>>186861172
We're on course for a Pepsiman enemy in no time at all.

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>>186861172
Is it bad that I find this more appealing then the original? By a large margin?

>X-COM
5/11 humanoid enemies
>TFTD
6/11 humanoid enemies
>EW
7/13 humanoid enemies

And yet this is a problem with XCOM

>>186861654
who are you quoting

>>186855346
>It just moves around in nanobot form and attacks in full form because it can't do anything when iits a nanoswarm.
It could pour discretely into your squad's clothes, hitch a ride back to base, and sabotage the engines from literally anywhere because it can get literally anywhere. It could pour into your bloodstream through your lungs. It sure as hell is wasting its time with a gun.

>>186861761
Or we could not have that. I vote for that. Because that just sounds annoying.

>>186861941
I'm not suggesting it as gameplay. I'm saying why I think they're retarded as a concept.

>>186862024
I am with you on that. But I've already beaten this horse... Twice? In this thread? So.. I would rather have had an other enemy then that guy.

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>7 days

>>186864821
who are you quoting?

>>186865426
the girl from the ring movie

>>186839819
The helmet is their amp.

Grenade launchers are cool and all but nowhere near as satisfying as the EW rocket launchers. Kind of miss them.
>tch-chk
>ShhhHHH FWOOM

>>186867171
I prefer grenade launchers desu.
>Ka-thunk
>FOOMP
>BOOM

>>186867548
>ka-thunk
>FOOMP
>beep beep beep
>...
>BOOM

>>186868495
Grenades also travel much slower than rockets, really feels like you are impacting stuff with the rockets as opposed to grenades where they land and then everything explodes

>>186867171
>Missed!
I prefer the grenade launcher.

>>186867171
>tch-chk
>ShhhHHH FWOOM
>Rk. Faggot has died.
>Sq. Anon has died.
>Sq. Teamkilling pussy has panicked.
>Sq. 97 percent to miss has died.

Chalk up another one

>>186868651
Nothing will ever beat landing a Gas Bomb in the middle of a bunch of ADVENT shitters then sitting back to watch them choke to death on their own lungs.

>>186871120
Firebomb and watching those cocksuckers be cleansed by fire.

release it jake

this is jake, xpac has postponed until october

>>186873373
Take that back you little shit, I need it now.

>>186861654
The problem is more that every single new enemy added in the expansion is humanoid, every single one.

At least EW added flying squids.

>>186874605
Those goddamn squids were the most annoying shits, but at least they were interesting. It'd be nice if we got enemies that cloaked in WOTC

>>186874723
The Assassin cloaks, kind of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YxIFTbKB3c

Also

>Horror
>Tentacles from the Spectre reach out and bind a humanoid target, damaging the target and healing the Spectre

>>186875198
>WhereValen
fugg

>>186875198
>VanDorned

THE MEMES JAKE

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>>186876384
>>186876384
don't mind me, just saving this franchise and throwing lump under the bus

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>>186839819
>>186839163
>>186838373


what did they mean by this?

>>186876745
Jake you already saved the franchise with EU, now you have to fix it

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>>186877821
A powerful form of stupidity

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>>186877821
Can you faggots contain your autism here?

>To achieve the full breadth of new features and systems in War of the Chosen, the team rebuilt large portions of the original game. As a result, any optimizations players experience in War of the Chosen are part of the new game code, and are not present in the base game.

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>>186877821
really grinds my gears when morons like this guy suddenly play the victim elsewhere and leave out all of the inconvenient details they were condemned for

>>186879369

>You won't get 3 second load times unless you buy WoTC

On the fence niggers BTFO

Have fun waiting for Xmas

>>186879369
rips in piss poorfags

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>>186879369
What's the matter, poorfags?
Is my expansion too magnificent?

>>186879420
>he doesn't already have a 3 second load time
How the fuck are long loading times real like nigga buy an SSD

>>186879369
Surely this isn't true. They're going to create a PR nightmare.

>>186879369
sauce

>>186879853
It is true. It was posted by an official firaxis account on
>reddit
https://www.reddit.com/user/FXS_MisterKevin

>>186842273
Never say never

>>186879369
Wow, a complete rebuild of code isn't what I was expecting. But I guess if they did a complete shader replace, that makes sense. It couldn't have just been the shader that was causing issues though. Game would always become a mess when it had a lot of particles on screen from destruction.

>>186879931
>>186879951

>>186839819
>>186839163
>>186838373
>>186877821
Is anyone going to even care about Avatars anymore? Before Wotc they were already a disappointing endgame enemy with a boring design that was usually pretty boring to fight as well. The Chosen on the other hand have all sorts of weird combat abilities and spend the game trolling you on the geoscape. They're much more interesting big bads than the elders.

I wish they'd release the SDK early so we could get a head start on shit. I wonder if there's any new voice overs for soldiers, would be interesting if there was new stuff they would say.

>>186807979
>tfw no yuri headgear option

>>186879369
Well they just lost my sale. Im not supporting Firaxis's shitty practices anymore.

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>>186879369
>>186879951
something about triggering poorfags this badly makes me feel very very good
their toasters rely on optimization the most but they can not afford it, it brings a tear to my eye

>>186880532
How is this a shitty practice? Telling you up front that they are sorry they can't bring these changes to the base game because it required changing a bunch of code? A shitty company wouldn't say either way that anything was changed and to just give you a placebo effect that the game was better. If you were going to get the expansion anyway, what does this change?

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>>186880532
>I was totally gonna buy it before, but now that I need it even more I'm not going to
you wouldn't have bought it either way, kid
keep making those excuses

>>186880815
They should have released an optimized game in the first place, they had nearly a year and a half to fix even some of the issues in the game but didn't fix any of them. The loading crash is still a thing for a lot of people if you check the discussion boards. What if the game never got an expansion pack? It would have never been fixed, and thats why its not something you should support.

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>the state of poorfags

>>186879369
>Rebuilt EW to support modding
>Rebuilt X2 to support further magnificence
Jake really wants to fix his game