/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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Is Saturday the day bros?

>>186367667
Why would it be? What is going on?

Does DeSu have fusion?

Why the fuck does /smtg/ have to active threads and both are ded?

>>186371862
Some dumb neutralfag made this one too early.

>>186371862
Law thread and Chaos thread, boyo

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Shin Megami Tensei: Akuma to no intabyu - fan-made visual novel. You play as a russian journalist who came to Tokyo to carry out a series of interviews with SMT demons.

Map exploration and simplified SMT combat included.


Download links:
Win (x86):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5x4IU6eF98NUmtsZ1J4a2JuWU0/view?usp=sharing

Android (APK):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5x4IU6eF98NNW1MZVRzWXJRdk0/view?usp=sharing

Linux:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5x4IU6eF98NeU1HNEhLVDFEZVU/view?usp=sharing

Mac:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5x4IU6eF98NNTd5ZFh6SUU4TFE/view?usp=sharing

>>186370270
Yes, and very user-friendly fusion at that.

>>186372390
You mean as in dumbed down? Or P4G style, letting you pick which skills to carry over?

>>186372441
P4G style, plus there is a "fission" calculator.

>>186372540
You mean fusion search like in IV?

>>186372614
I haven't played IV yet but yeah, most likely.

>>186372684
I think P4G had something like this too, but nowhere nearly as complex. And it was limited to the personas currently in your possession.

>>186367667
Whats coming on the Saturday?

The best way to emulate Strange Journey is emulating android and emulating DraStic on it right?

>>186373731
Just wait for Yukiko's new game.

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>>186372740
DeSu 1 and 2 are the games that made me start drawing fusion trees on a sheet of paper. I love it.

>>186373731
Emulating SJ with Desmume on PC works just fine. There is a workaround for the crackling sound which works for me at least.

>>186373521
Atlus' NicoNico livestream I think

>>186373997
But I'm on toaster anon, granted I haven't touched Desmume in years but it was very cpu demanding.

>>186374234
Yup. Even if we don't get any new info, I'm actually interested in seeing who wins the poll.
Better be SMT I or Strange Journey.

>>186373731
Drastic is great, Desmume is also good, but can run bad on shitty computers.
You can try using no$zoomer and changing the renderer to opengl:
https://mega.nz/#!rcsWDTRI!Hfq8VYWcweSF-oN_T3H-14Vyu09l3nRXZhkv7b85PzY

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>>186373781
You did remember to pre order her game, right anons?

>>186374591
Who?

>>186374661
Pretty sure that's the Melty Blood girl. They're all pretty shit.

>>186374591
No, sorry, I'm gonna pirate it. Buying games for two consoles would bankrupt me. I might pre-order the EOV though, if it gets the first print edition in Yurop.

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>>186374701
I was fooling around. I know that's Rin Tohsaka of the Fate series.

Not really into Fate, anyways. Not a big fan of magic.

>>186374661
Yukiko

>>186375008
Oh, I legit thought she was one of the Melty Blood characters.
Aren't the series related or something, at least?

>>186375008
But magic is dope as shit, STR builds are barbaric

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>>186375164
>world of STR
>bad
What are you, some kind of lawfag?

>>186374567
Thanks anon. I will try this and Drastic and go along whichever my toaster has a better response to.

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>>186375074
I think they are. Called the Nasuverse or some shit like that.

>>186375164
>not relying on your own strength and will
>taking power from the supernatural and cravenly calling it your own

Failure of a human. Give me STR or DEX and some human technology or get out.

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>>186375279
>>186375516
Have fun battling phys repel demons in a game that lacks almighty physicals, sons of man.

>>186375516
The contents of this post and the attached image are so ironic that it's beyond belief.

>>186376737
Believe me, i'm well aware.

im playing through DDS, holy fucking shit the encounter rate is insane. I literally walk half a step and I run into a demon. I played through nocturne and it wasn't nearly this bad. Does this game have the highest encounter rate in a SMT game?

>>186376835
>Does this game have the highest encounter rate in a SMT game?
Persona 2 probably takes the crown.

>>186376897
On the bright side it didn't take long to out level the demons in any given area. Thereby letting you skip them for the rest of the dungeon with Estoma. Otherwise completing all of Salam's maps would have truly been insufferable.

>>186376835
You would not enjoy the police station in SMT1, then. I did not find the encounter rate in DDS too bad. Besides, grinding mantras is fun.

Can I just grind "free battles" in DeSu indefinitely? Is there a reason not to?

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World of STR and world of MAG are both stupid. We need balance!

>>186377638
Almost everything in there was deathly weak to the Heroines lighting though. Except the eyeball guys. They were jerks.

>>186377731
You'll win an achivement if you complete a playthrough without any free battles. Other than that, do it as much as you want.

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>>186377735
>neutralfags

>>186377828
Well, I fucked up that one already. So I guess I have nothing to lose.

>>186377862
Fucking Burroughs trying to mislead me from the true ending.
Got it on the first try though. Feels good.

>>186377936
>true ending

>>186378063
Well, maybe not the ending itself, but the Neutral route is the one Apocalypse is based on. So it's safe to assume it's the true one.

>>186378153
But Apocalypse is fan fiction.

>>186378597
Haha.

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Isn't Law just Chaos?
God is the strongest so he decides the way of the world using his power and influence.
Sure Chaos lets everyone have freedom but eventually someone who is incredibly strong and influential will be able to have their way with most of the world.

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>spend an hour rerolling
>finally get what I want
>fusion error
Noctards will unironically defend this shit

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>>186378597
Would /smtg/ agree that despite the poor balance and worse gameplay, SMT4 is better since it at the very least stays somewhat true to the themes of the series?

>>186379605
At the very least I think /smtg/ can agree that the cast of IV is ten times more tolerable than the cast of Apocalypse.

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>>186379605
>samurais who travel underground and kill demons
>get to dress one of them up in futuristic clothing
>that fantastic soundtrack
>get to kill a monkey by joining up with god
Yes.

>>186379209
out of chaos, order. chaos always turns into order in the end. someone strong comes to subjugate weaker and forms a nation cartel which becomes another country in the future.

without outside energy input everything slows down, cools down until it eventually stops and dies. order is the state of ultimate death of everything, when all energy is spent and whatever liveliness, movement used to be, everything becomes static, unchanging, frozen. it applies to societies as well as nature, down to subatomic levels.

the fimbulwinter of all existence.

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>>186379752
How can any MegaTen even compete?

>>186367719
livestream

>>186378597
fucking this

>>186381386
not with that pic of a shitty character tho

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>>186382095
>Walter
>bad
You have opened up a can of peanut brittle now good sir.

oh man this salty chaosfag

>>186379209
Yes, one of the themes of the series is that Law and Chaos aren't as different as they seem. Soejima talks about this in the SMTIV artbook a little bit. He intentionally designed Purgatorium as a chaotic, unorderly realm and designed Lucifer's Palace as an organized and regal-looking palace to make players think about the juxtaposition and how interchangeable they really are.

>>186383205
Don't you mean Doi

>>186383248
Oops yes that's what I meant. Mixed their names up

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Is Devil May Cry canonically part of the SMT universe?

>>186383362
I like to think this is where Dante ended up after he went into hell in DMC2.

>>186383362
Would've been pretty cool if it were the case.

>>186381386
Get a bigger picture, newfaggot

>>186379605
Fuck no.

>>186380271
You are siding with one of his lesser and most uptight underlings.

IV doesn't let you side with the most handsome and trustworthy law rep.

>>186387135
stfu Apocalypsefag

>>186387170
Who might this handsome fellow you're talking about be?

>>186387247
I don't even like Final that much but it's FAR better than the piece of trash that is IV. The only thing I liked about that game was the OST and Final has most of it too plus some new great themes.

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>>186382095
>>186382661
Fuck off law scum.

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>>186387486
come to the light, loser

>>186379605
In the most barebones way possible sure.

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if... when?

>>186390694
tomorrow

>>186390893
If you are lying anon then I'm contacting the White

>No neutral concert

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YooHoo? More like Cocksleeve!

>>186391117
Neutralfags/Whiteys BTFO

>no shijima concert

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>>186391117
Just dual-mix the law and chaos concerts. Once you realize how crappy it sounds, you will understand the glory of law.

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smt v will be highly stylized like persona 5 and streamlined further to capitalize on all the good press. the game will be very well received by critics and scratch the itch for more megaten for all the people who's first title was P5 but it will be detested by core mainline fans. there will be a dichotomy created between casual megaten fans: those who played persona 4/5 as their entry point that decided to try SMT V and now think they're harcore, and those who played 4/5 as their entry point, tried V, thought it was ok but enjoyed persona more. meanwhile the legacy megaten fans will fall further into obscurity as they watch one of their favorite franchises become bastardized in the mainstream.

>>186396558
f-fuck... I may be alone in this, but I feel like the HD trailer is more abstract and minimal than SMT IV's promotional stuff ever was. This gives me hope that they're going for something more traditionally SMT.

>>186396909
it feels more like showoff, unreal engine models and shit

>>186393249
>that "legwear"
>gravity tits
>le Pocky and candy xxddd
how can someone genuinely think this is good design is beyond me

Nocturne newfag here.
I just finished Yosuga.
Holy crap. It's probably the best game of my life.

> MC, Nyx, Lachesis, Clotho
> full STR build. Focus & Divine Shot
> finished game on level 72. Tried not to grind.
> haven't done kalpas besides from first. Ran around with Estoma active most of the time.

>>186396909
They literally had nothing of the game to show at the Switch presentation since they've barely started the development of the game, the teaser was just some exported P5 assets into a generic UE4 environment.

>>186397481
>it's probably the best game of my life
Another demon is born. The hunger never stops btw

>>186397481
You should replay it sometime for the true demon end anon. Is this your first megaten?

>>186397649
I'll probably end up buying 2DS XL for Deep Journey, SMT IV & Apo.

>>186398063
Played bits of Strange Journey and Personas. I'd love to get into True Ending but I don't have that much time in my life. I'm a corporat. Will most probably watch it on YT & buy 2DS to play it at work.

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>>186397481
>haven't done kalpas besides from first
Nibba you missed the best part of the game.

>>186398235
How many hours a week do you work? What do you do that allows you to play 2DS?

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>>186397481
Play 4 next, then DeSu 1, and then the old shit mega tenses.

Well fuck
should I?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/322608527042

>>186400421
no, it's a waste of money
be reasonable anon

>>186400421
>That description

I'm playing Raidou 2 now. Does the endings differ in content length or just about the same? I'm thinking to get into chaos for first run though.

>>186399654
I work in IT as a QA.
Sometimes I have shitload of work 12 hours per day. Sometimes it's just 5 hours mostly spent on drinking coffee.
To finish Nocturne I was working from home a lot. Thankfully I can do that as much as I want.

>>186399842
Seeing this picture makes me mad that Apocalypse shits on Navarre by turning him into a green ghost and making him the butt of everyone's jokes. He's actually much more useful than anyone else in the team and the least annoying person in the group.

>>186379605
I actually was really enjoying the story of apocalypse , but it shits the bed after the cosmic egg "alignment lock" ot just gets fucking retarded, the divine powers are still GOAT villains, but yeah i agree, IV has better themes

>>186387170
That's because unlike most Law Reps, Mastema is totally okay with Flynn choosing his own path, but will sternly lecture him on going Neutral.

>>186404602
The Divine Powers are GOAT because they're much more persuasive and have better teamwork than Law, Chaos, and the Hunter Association.

Is there any logic behind fusing demons (SMT IV) or do I just choose whatever pops in the recommendations?

what is the amala network?

>>186406647
inherit good skills

which demon has juciest pussy

>>186406647
Resistances and skills.

Oh man, the World of Envy dungeon music is so good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vfpi5rIZPGU

>>186402002
Chaos is ideal for the first run if you care about 100 percenting case files in your 2nd play through and acquiring a certain noteworthy demon to summon. You can heavily manipulate your alignment in the final stretch of the final dungeon. So for the most part you can answer stuff however you please throughout most of the game. It MAY be possible to be too far tilted in one direction for the final Q&A to be sufficient. I don't know. Personally I was neutral before this point. There is a trick to further manipulate your alignment involving transforming into a female character and entering the bathhouse. Nothing to see by the way.
There isn't a huge difference in content in regards to your alignment during the first play through. Some different bosses in the final dungeon. Again, if you really want to see the differences just save in a different slot after the long Q&A, then reload your other save.

>>186400421
>used
Someone's probably used it as a dildo.

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Has there been any word of a special edition of strange journey redux for the US? SJ is my favorite SMT and I own the original so anew speci edition is something I need.

>>186409035
I suppose I should add that there are a few bosses outside the final dungeon that will be determined by your alignment. They're also available to fuse afterwards. So if you really care about having access to everything in newgame+ you could use a guide to secure a Chaos alignment throughout your entire first play through. Then Law for the 2nd. In terms of immersion that might make the experience less enjoyable, though.

Which SMT games have symbol attack to initiate combat? IV and what else?

>>186410507
Atlus USA is shitting the bed, no, the hasn't been any info at all

>>186410507
If there is any special edition, it definitely wont be the same thing the japs are getting since it has such a big focus on the Super Famicom games we never got.

>>186413102
What does it have?

I want a SMT game featuring only female Doimons

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Dear /smtg/,

Due to low activity, we have decided that /smtg/ will be merged into /pg/. From now on, any new /smtg/ threads will be deleted without further notice. Please post in /pg/ from now on.

Sincerely,
/vg/ admin

>>186417824
I don't believe you.

>>186417824
IMPERSONATING AN ADMIN IS AGAINST THE RULES NIGGA

>>186417824
can we hoy there?

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>>186418248
No, hoying, goroposting or any form of stale meme will be replaced with arguements with demonfufags and waifufags, Jack Frost also will be replaced with Teddie

>>186417824
EAT OR BE EATEN!

After playing an SMT game or two in a row, do you ever feel burnt out? What do you play during this period before returning to SMT?

>>186422273
I'm on my 5th in a row right now and not really burnt out.

>>186422273
Dream about SMT and cute demons.

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>>186422273
A bright and colorful JRPG

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/pg/ is a mistake.

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I can't beat forneus. Help?

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>>186422273
Usually EO or something toned down like Rune Factory. I can't ever escape returning to turn based games though.

Speaking of which, I just finished DDS NG+ superboss, so I think I'm going to take a break before returning to DDS2.
Is Persona 3 a good choice, or do you think the gameplay too similar? I've only ever played Persona Revelations, and Persona 3's themes seem pretty cool, but I don't know what to expect for gameplay.

>>186423360
I definitely cant speak for everyone here, but as a fellow SMT fan I have to tell you that I got >40 hours into that piece of shit, dropped it because it was boring as fuck, and then asked myself what I was doing playing a game I hated.

>>186423156
Nocturne?

>>186423656
How on earth does it take you 40 hours to decide something isn't for you

>>186413447
an artbook and CDs of SMT 1 & 2's OST

>>186423360
I dropped the game around when people generally agree it gets interested.

What >>186423656 said. It was boring as fuck for me to play.

>>186423360
boring as hell, really. Worst is that both plot and gameplay are equally shit. At least plot gets better near the end

>>186422862
but they're our superiors now

>>186417824
I wish /pg/ died

>>186423759
Never mind, my game was glitched. For some reason the weakness wasn't being triggered when I hit it.

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>>186422764
>A bright and colorful JRPG
ayy

What would your reaction be if they teased a new mmo during the stream?

>>186424668
"Fuck can I run this shit on wine?"

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>>186424386
>>186423360
>>186422273
I get really burnt out after finishing an RPG. Usually I can't jump right into another one but if I dedicate maybe an hour or two to a game it can grasp me. As of late it's been hard for any game to hold my attention so when things like Crash and Sonic came it out was a nice way to break up the pace.

Have you guys ever tried playing a game from your backlog but just couldn't decide on which one you want to play so you keep jumping back and forth until you eventually give up and play neither?

>>186424668
i kinda miss imagine

is life drain worth it in smt4?

>>186422273
A real game

>>186408205
Yaksini

>>186408205
mara

>>186426504
go for Energy Drain instead

>>186426504
Has life drain been worth it in any game in the series?

>>186379209
Shouldn't libertarians defend governments? They're just organizations.

>>186420821
teddie is for losers. go morgana.

>>186430691
Koromaru > Teddie and the creepy cat who follows you to the toilet

>>186430691
>>186431168
Fuck off

>>186431246
Instead of getting triggered over two harmless posts post something mainline.

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>>186431246
Failure of a human! Failure of a human!

>>186431476
>>186431532
Kill yourselves, my good men

>>186431641
see >>186431532 and then cry some more, son of man.

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>>186431689
>see >>186431532
I did already dummy

>>186431879
have you repented of your sin then, son of man? or will you insist on walking the path of wickedness?

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>>186432087
I just hate personafaggots is all, fellow lawfriend

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>>186432249
what if i like both persona and smt equally?

>>186431246
t.bitch frost
>>186432415
those exist?

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>>186432415
If you've completed Persona 1and 2, Im ok with you.

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>>186432790
nigger i said persona, not nu-persona, who do you think i am?

>>186423360
I got about 30ish hours into P3 and just couldn't take it. The highschool setting and anime style cast became too much. I thought the DDS cast was a bit hammy but holy fuck is P3's cast annoying. I don't think persona is for me at all, though I have always been interested in a P2 remake as that one seems interesting.

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>>186432890
Can't be too careful nowadays. You know as well as I do how many people claim to know everything about a franchise that they've played >50% of.

you have to be a real faggot to complain about persona posts in the SMT gen. Persona general exists as containment for persona only fags. Smtg can discuss the entire franchise with class.

>>186433269
Heres wannabe-mod-kun again.

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>>186433356
neck yourself senpai

>>186400421
If you're willing to pay that much, why didn't you just get the new one that's huge?

>>186425087
Recently happened with SH and SJ. Both games I love, but for some reason I couldn't stomach them, so I've dropped them for now.

>>186422273
I thought I would get burnt out and never get onto Apocalypse after beating IV but I jumped straight in and I'm still enjoying myself.

>>186434803
Maybe he just wants the Gold one, for whatever reason?

>>186435780
You may be right, I didn't think about it like that.

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what did he mean by this

>>186436110
There's something on that tile on the floor above?

>>186422273
I kinda felt burnout when playing Raidou. It's fun but constantly get into encounters while trying to solve puzzles in dungeons can get on my nerve sometimes. Some goes to Apoc, it's not as hard but I do get frustrated when trying to solve Tsukiji konganji puzzle.

>>186436191
>>186436110
Maybe it was refering to Gar's shield in 3f, I dunno

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>>186436110
what did they mean by this sprite?

>>186436110
>>186438126
i think they just lazily traced this sprite from the NES megaten1, which kaneko did not work on

>>186432517
>those exist?
I'm one of them

>>186433616
dumb frogposter

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>>186432890
>>186432790

>yfw Nyarlothotep will finally make his return
>In a dance-off to the death with Philemon for the fate of mankind's soul in one of the new DaN games

Though with the bone they threw to P2 fans in PQ I'm hoping PQ2 will have some more.

>>186441183
Nyarlathotep's return really HAS to be the kind of thing you end the series on. P3 already set up the whole "destroy masses of Shadows and they all return to their original form" Deal with the Full Moon Shadows and Death. Given that all the final bosses in Nu-Persona are basically just various negative aspects of humanity given form, and Nyarlathotep was ALL of them personified, it would make a weird kind of sense that, while SEES, the Investigation Team, and the Phantom Thieves tried to save the world by killing these various gods, they end up bringing Nyarlathotep back to full power.

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This is a monkey

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>>186443451
DELET THIS.
Isabeau a cute! A CUTE!

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This is promotional material for Atlus' latest role-playing game

>>186444717
So there's NO chance that Yukiko's going to be a minor part of the Strange Journey re-release, is there?
I hoped they learned their lesson from Marie.

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>>186444842
She'll probably be similar to Lucifer in Nocturne.

>>186444717
WHERE ARE THE MIDDLE AGED MEN WITH FEDORAS!?

ALTUS IS RUUIIIIINEEED!!!! >:c

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>>186446407
Art thou mocking me, Son of Man?

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>>186446750
Maybe.

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Hey /smtg/, i went through like 200 or so pages of some guy's blog and i saved every image in there, i decided to post it here so i feel it wasn't just time wasted.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6eaH-yZwLHaeTZpQ0xiN2Yyc0U

Because of SMT IV I now get annoyed when people pronounce "samurai" incorrectly.

>>186367413
>non-integer scaling
don't use your own screenshots again OP, you're making us look bad

STR- for chaos runs
DEX- for law runs
MAG-for neutral ones anyone else agree with me?

to anyone who's emulated nocturne: have any of you ever gotten upscaling to work
when i switch to hardware mode in pcsx2 shit gets all fuckity, but i've seen hi-res screenshots of nocturne here before. also I remember it working fine with DDS when i played it, but that was a good while ago

also when the fuck do you get the compendium

>>186449660
Switch dex and mag

>>186449841
Nah man shooting them niggers-demons with guns is the most lawful thing to do

>>186450158
And isn't God against humans using magic of any kind?

>>186450554
that too

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>miss
>miss
>miss
>miss
>miss

>>186449414
>>/vr/

>>186448048
There's some really cool stuff there anon

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>>186448048
Neat.

>>186443451
yea her Jap voice is the same as Kanbaru Suruga

>>186453941
I want to fuck babushka fairy

Is anyone here working on a functional Demon Summoning Program prototype?
I'd be more than happy to be a black box tester if that's what you're looking for.

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>>186441649
>Final boss fight is Nyarlothotep, with multiple stages representing the final bosses of each previous game
>Final boss theme is a remix of https://youtu.be/hfawau30Olk with variations in style that change in each stage and represent the musical style of that game's boss
>The triumph theme for the final blow is a new version of https://youtu.be/Sz3y085S5uw as the mc channels Philemon to slay Nyarlothotep once and for all.

It will never happen, but my hype would be off the fucking charts if it ever did.

>>186449681
Can't answer the first question (I played it on PS2), but you get the compendium when you first get to Ikebukuro.

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Interested, how do you guy's feel about demons that pay tribute to pop culture like pic related? I saw someone get mad at why Doi gave Amon red arms, as a reference to devilman, and while I thought it sounded petty at first the more I look at Amon the more it genuinely bothers me. It isn't anything new, this Keneko art of Nata Taishi has existed for awhile for example. I don't know, do you guys like it?

>>186455649
what's Nata Taishi's supposed to reference

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>>186454597
Give him a few years.

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>>186455810
Astro Boy, the hair gives it away really. That was just one of the more recent examples. I remember in SMTII there were two demons based on the film beetlejuice.

>>186455649
i like the demon car from that stephen king book

all that's missing now is IT

>>186454974
I've said it a few times in /pg/, but Battle for Everyone's Souls is the kind of song that really needed to be at the end of a franchise, because the final boss's theme being a remix of THE ONE SONG that's been in almost every game is the kind of symbolism that can't be topped.
The closest I can think of is the final boss theme from Persona 1, but not only do you not actually fight Nyarlathotep for that (but freaking PANDORA). Maybe the regular boss music instead?

>>186455649
Why get bothered by it? its a game is not supposed to be accurate. In fact these creatures don't even exist so even the use of the term accuracy is questionable.

>>186455649
They're fine, and I'm fine with them as long as they are executed tastefully.

>>186456458
SMT is often applauded for its accuracy in its depictions of its demons. While yes, none f these entities are not "real" they have all have a rich history in religion and folklore. I think accuracy is a pretty big aspect of the demons. It's why a lot of people were pissed about Demeter's new design in Deep Strange Journey from Doi. She is said to have a motherly appearance and gave birth to multiple goddesses but they gave her the appearnace f a little girl.

>>186457289
Precisely for being part of a rich folklore these figures changed appearance and forms across the centuries and millenniums, as well as their very legends were modified. Chances are what one would call a "accurate represetation" nowdays does not match with the idea ancient people had of them. It's expecily laughlable when people come to this rhetoric to megaten when Kaneko made Metraton robotic design because of a dum pun with tron a made the budhist represatation of evil a penis because of a jap slang.

>>186457289
>SMT is often applauded for its accuracy in its depictions of its demons.
Uh, by whom?

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>>186458162
Everyone who cares. Lurk moar.

>>186458162
Be*dm@n

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>>186458162
by pretentious internet "intellectuals"

How does a character as expressive as Cielo exist in the world of DDS? Not to mention his accent.
I was under the impression that emotions besides contempt didn't exist before Sera appeared.

>>186458162
Stealing knowledge the same guy who throws temper tantrums over healthy actors playing cripples and irrelevant shit like that

>>186429407
Devil survivor

Life drain X Holy dance X Mag build is all you need

>>186459734
Drain was stupid broken in Devil Survivor.

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Can't believe Majin Tensei II predicted 9/11, forget about Deus Ex this is the real deal.

>>186458101
Demeter being drawn as a little girl isn't the problem. It's that Deep Strange Journey makes her look and act more like a contemporary female anime character that got people all riled up. While Metatron has a robotic design, he often acts as the Lord's Servant, or at least used to until IV went "Hurr durr, Angels are mindless machines except Mastema"

>>186461101
both majin tensei games have some of the most amazing music i've heard from the SNES sound chip
>that fucking BBS dialing in the intro of MT1

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okay, who wins?

>>186459734
>>186459891
Playing through Overclocked now and the amount of HP and SP you leech with Drain is just silly. I made a high mag Loki with those two skills plus Megido, utterly trivialized the final boss fights on day 7.

Playing through Amane day 8 now. I used to be a chaosfag but the older I get the more I warm up to lawfags. Is this what adulthood is like

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>>186462073
and I love the backgrounds too.

>>186462117
>dex vs WORL OF STR

>>186461921
I remember reading Doi tried making Law and Chaos seem "not so different" with IV, almost as if he wanted to show they are one in the same in ways.
>>186462073
>>186462298
Has there ever been anything on a translation for these? They look pretty cool and a SMT srpg that keps the tone of the mainline games seems great.

>>186462532
>Has there ever been anything on a translation for these? They look pretty cool and a SMT srpg that keps the tone of the mainline games seems great.
aeon genesis is "on it"

>>186456458
They don't exist but they are considered legends and myths to the religion they were referred from. For example, Nata Taishi is a direct reference from the legend of Nezha which is pronounce as such in Japanese.

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>>186462589
Just checked and the last update was from 2009.

Fuck. Maybe someday the majin tensei games, if.., and metal max 2 will be playable. Those are what I have wanted most from their "in progress" list.

>>186462149
Yes being a law path is the true way. It helps that devil survivor has one of the best law paths in the series. Remember the way the lord wants you to live is superior if the angels didn't kill you your sins would have anyways eventually. ;)

>>186462149
I had my main character as a Magic Build, and I was basically a healer who did massive damage with Drain. I can't even DESCRIBE how dissapointed I was when I tried Life Drain in P5 after killing just about EVERYTHING with Drain in DeSu, and it did fucking NOTHING.

Devil Survivor is one of the few games in the franchise where being a Lawfag is actually a respectable decision. Not only is Amane one of the best waifus in the game but more importantly, YHVH and the Angels aren't colossal dickbags. In any other entry in the series, if YHVH saw humans turning to Chaos, he would've just dropped the nukes. In this game, he at least gives humanity a chance to get its act together. More importantly, he freaking TELLS PEOPLE that he's going to test humanity to make sure it gets its shit together.
I don't know how far you've gotten in Amane's Day 8, but there's a point where you basically are told to kill people that YHVH has decided are sinners, and you have to do it a few times, and you get the option to actually REDEEM them, and the angels show up and basically say "Okay, we wouldn't have thought of that. Good job, Son of Man."

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Guess we're here now.

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spin off

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>>186463409
Reduced to this...

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It's dagda time

>>186463409
>/smtg/ gets pozzed
Why

>>186463607
Blame whoever made /pg/'s bot.

>>186462935
I'm a "kill 'em both" Neutralfag, and yeah, best Law route. Genuinely the only one I consistently pick Law over Neutral in.

Why didn't joker die when goro killed his shadow?

>>186463409
>>186463447
>>186463489
fuck off back to /pg/, the bot is gone now

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>>186463489
Please save us.... We're your retarded younger siblings but the pain is too much.

>>186463726
Why didn't maya die when she killed her shadow?

>>186463726
It was not his shadow, just Sae's cognitive version of him.

>>186463828
I haven't played any SMT games so I don't know.

>>186463726
Hashino writing

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>>186463726

>>186463914
What does that even mean
So why is it game over whenever you die in a dungeon?

>>186463750
>the bot
What happened?

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>>186463718
>I'm a "kill 'em both" Neutralfag
My neutralfag brethren.

>>186464161
/pg/ summoned a bot that spammed the thread with posts that were regurgitated messes of words, randomly taken from other posts. It posted every minute or so and crashed the thread hard. They tried to make a second thread to escape it, but the bot followed them and made the first post in it. The bot is gone now, thanks to based moon boy

>>186464354
this would never happen in the darksouls of persona

>>186464161
This.
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/186448713/#186460640
It happened last night too. At first I thought it was some autismo but if you look at the posts you'll notice it's botposting, then it gets worse as the thread goes on.
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/186341171/#186349168
I'm not sure what can be done about it if no one comes to help. Yesterday it wasn't dealt with it all. Crying on IRC probably won't help either.

>>186464075
Remember what the game said about cognitions? They're more like dolls that reflect what the palace owner sees them as, not the actual person themselves.
Obviously, if an actual person goes in the cognitive world and dies then they're just dead.

>>186464175
I dislike that Neutral is treated as a weak "I can't decide!!!!" route, when it actually tends to be more of a "Fuck both of them, humans can set their own path!"

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>>186448048
Thanks anon.

>>186459114
But he didn't have his personality before Sera. Play through the first minutes of the game again, you will see that Cielo don't speak like he does through the rest of the game.

>>186464725
This is why I'm a neutralfag. Too many think neutral means "I'll ignore the law and chaos sides" when in reality it is the "fuck demons, we don't need them" path.

>>186464629
Oh, I see.
For what it's worth, I'm sorry.

>>186462935
>law path is the true way
Not to go /pol/ but boooy do RL events make it more painful of a realization, now more than ever before. The truth always hurts in some way, I guess

>>186463239
Not very but that's super cool to know, thanks and I agree, though Amane doesn't have much competition to begin with as the only other waifu candidate is Haru imo. I've been getting the foreshadowing cues too with all the emphasis they put on punishment/law following, also Atsubro's brief hesitation during the pre-day exchanges. Sounds hype, I'm excited to continue!

>>186464887
I'll never get why people think "let's ignore them" is where so many Neutral routes involve you fighting both sides.

LITERALLY in 1 and 4 the Neutral routes involve you deciding to stomp up to Law and Chaos's house, and kick both of their asses.

>>186465093
>For what it's worth, I'm sorry.
Don't be. /pg/ deserves all the shit we get.

>first SMT game is IV because 3 is in moon runes and need multiple emulators for the others
>Have 7 magic and 20 strength
>Always do more damage with magic than manual attacks
What the fuck?

>>186465539
>because 3 is in moon runes

What.

>>186465656
Took me a bit to get what he meant. SMT I, II, and if..., he doesn't mean Nocturne.

>>186465746
Yeah I forgot which ones were in moonrunes
Which older one was in English?
I just saw something in 4 that probably relates to the protagonist in that one space one

>>186465539
>3 is in moon runes
What? Nocturne was the first mainline title translated to English.

In IV magic is MUCH stronger then strength, it's genuinely bullshit how much better it is. Typically the "optimal" build for flynn is 3 in mag and then 1 in agility and luck. Magic allows for easier extra turns as unlike most other SMT games even by end game bosses will be weak to some form of magic. Add to that that you have the broken mp restoration app and can get flynn doing almighty damage halfway through the game and magic is broken. Also in IV strength is worthless, dexterity is better as it is what determines your physical skills.

>>186465906
While a few titles were brought to the west in the 90's (persona 1, persona 2 EP, jack bros, and last bible) atlus started really bringing them over during the mid 2000's. Every ps2 SMT game for example had a English localization.

Respond without spoilers.

Should i use and level up Roland in DDS 2 or he is only a temporary character?
If a should level up him, what's a good mantra build for him?

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Shin Megami Tensei characters who are literally you pic related is me

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>>186463409
Why people hate Ryuji but love this dumb cunt again?

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>>186466717
Actual, real life image of me.

>>186466717
Hardcore Hacker. Runner up is Anthony.

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>>186466717
This is me. Literally me.

>>186466632
A few characters leave for a dungeon or two in DDS2. Cielo and Gale never do so they're nice to use. No one is a temporary character though. So feel free to use him if you like but personally I don't like his stat growth so I don't like to use him a lot. He's built for phys but DDS battles lend themselves to magic a lot more

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>>186466717

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>>186466717
intelligent, nihilistic, and with a wicked sense of humor

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Ask Jip's.

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Done with if... or well one route of it. I'm not going to bother with the other routes. The story is really fucking stupid, the dungeons are infuriating, and the game requires a lot of grinding to pad its length.

>>186467432
Brad please

>>186472098
if you beat it though i'm pretty sure that unlocks an extra route that's radically different and takes place in one dungeon entirely

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>enemies always get extra turns when they attack first and I don't
>enemies always get extra turns when they crit and I don't
>enemies don't lose their extra turns when I hit their weakness
>the boss is almost three times my level
Well, now I know what free battles are for. To provide you some grind and extra padding inflating the total playthrough time, because the devs were too lazy to balance the mandatory encounters, so they just threw free battles in everywhere.

>>186472530
Yeah, it does. I'm really not interested in it though. I'm just gonna move on to either Persona or Devil Summoner

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>>186472098
What was his problem anyway

>>186472627
He was bullied, and his mother abandoned him and his dad.

>>186472547
Does save scumming work in Auction?

>>186472851
I think it's randomized-ish. Sometimes it's the same demons when you reload, and sometimes they're different. Either way you have to grind, either for exp or for macca.

>>186472547
You know how a large number of battles actually have infinitely respawning waves of enemies? Yeah, you're meant to abuse those if you're planning on not grinding via free battles.

>>186472969
>infinitely respawning waves of enemies in an SRPG
This is somehow feels worse than even Disgaea.

>>186473154
Most of the time, the sources of infinitely respawning enemies are haywire COMPs that you can actually shut down manually on the field. That stops being as common later on, but it's still no big deal. By that time you're usually strong enough to take bosses out relatively quickly.

I knew I forgot to do something

OK so I started playing Nocturne around 2009
I'd put it down at some point and get back to it "eventually" and by the time eventually rolled around I felt the compulsion to start over from the beginning since it'd just be a mess trying to pick up from where I left off
beat it this year after I don't know how many repetitions of that a few months ago then forgot about it until just now

feels good months after having actually done that and suddenly remembering I did that, man

don't think I'm touching NG+ it looks like shit on a flat screen and IDK if my ps2 will live another good portion of a decade

>>186475780
>not just emulating

>>186475780
there's almost no reason to NG+ Nocturne anyway, because there's no additional content.
NG+ is only for if you want to blaze through all the routes, which is dumb because you could just watch videos of them instead if you did it that way

>>186477098
I agree. Plus, all of these endings have like... 30 seconds. I feel regret about not doing Amala network. Bosses are essence of fun in Nocturne and I missed lots of great fights (both Amala and Fiends).
I'll probably keep my NG+ save. One day I may replay it.

>>186472547
My first playthrough I only did extra battles for cracking skills and still blasted through the game.

I'll admit I save scummed on the final boss though.

>>186478179
It's not like you can savescum even, like you could in Naraku. Unless you mean using the suspended save.

>>186478231
The suspend is what I'm talking about. It was like having a hard save mid battle. I had someone die super early during the boss rush as I thought it would be the last part which made the final phase long as shit.

>>186372325
can i sex demons

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>>186448048
Great stuff!

>>186481123
>2 beast eyes
>2 makakajas
>2 megidolaons
>game over

>>186463239
>YHVH
DeSu God is technically named Yehowah/YHWH.

>>186464629
Jesus, that's worse than the babylonian bot twitter account.

>>186438126
I think >>186438313 is right, it's very similar to the original sprite, which was also out of place. The KMT version is a lot more kawaii for some reason. The Famicom dude is pretty scary.

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>>186451265
>implying non-integer scaling is OK outside of /vr/
it's not
>>186456013
pic related

>>186464629
Some other general I visit had to deal with this botshit a little while ago too, but thankfully it only lasted for two or three threads.

>>186423360
P3 is pretty good in its own way and you should play it sometime, but the game is a bit too long and involving to play inbetween DDS 1 and 2. Play Last Bible or something, like I am doing right now.

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what's everyone up to right now?

>>186481123
is Mot doing the kettle pot Heat Action?

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>>186483435
Getting ready for work.

>>186483560
THAT'S RAD

>>186484487
I wonder what being fused feels like.

>playing MT I
>cast recarm on a dead demon
>has no effect, demon is still dead
Did I somehow fuck myself?

>>186486432
No, recarm doesn't work every time.

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>>186486495
Thanks for the clarification. I thought I'd done made a huge mistake somewhere.

>>186486402
Depends on the game.
For instance, Persona 5? FUCKING PAINFUL.

>>186486402
i'm guessing memories are temporarily stripped away during the process, combined/mixed with the other side's memories, and then re-applied back at the end.

the consciousnesses are most likely identical without memories or will, so them fusing is probably a personal experience. on your side you're the one who remained, on their side they're the ones who remained. in reality, both of you did, but due to no distinct memories separating you, you no longer know the distinction between each other.

then the combined memories are applied to the resulting super-consciousness, and a new vessel/form is put on top of that.

>>186486607
i didnt like how needlessly edgy all those fusions were, i thought the card fusion was pretty cool and normal SMT fusion too

>complaining about new atlus streams
wow people must have forgotten about the old streams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blsioTXcQAk

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>>186486589
Of course, there's a chance I'm remembering incorrectly, but I'm fairly positive that recarm was a crapshoot in MTI, and I remember being all 'w t f' about it. You playing KMT or the Famicom version?

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>>186487237
KMT. I'm in Marsluka, ready to kill myself if I have to reload my save because I lost a level.