/srg/ - speedrunning general

First for RTAinJapan

Second for jackafur is based

fourth for wording third

fifth for why the fuck was the last thread deleted?

ninth for because no one posted in a two hour span

What is everybody speedrunning today?

3rd for practicing instead of doing a full run

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>>185870684
forcedxdiscussion

I'm so sick of the splicers trying to infiltrate the speedrunning community. What cliques other than ALTTP endorse this behavior?

Based WQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaVFuv75HxM

https://twitter.com/Bounceyboyy/status/896442589876031488

https://twitter.com/Bounceyboyy/status/896442763415367681

Dude literally does this every time he fucking streams. Why does he continue to force himself to do it?

>>185876207
WQ is a turbo pimp and those bedsheets are off the chain

>>185876940
not just one but TWO different types of toy story sheets up in that bitch

>>185876940
He's exposing:
>Cheaters
>Splicers
>Reddit
>Cliques
>Non-speedrunners

>>185876207
>he thinks ALTTP, the meme game, is relevant
lmao

>>185878172
It is literally one of the most relevant speedgames, up there with SM64 and Super Metroid. Try again.

>>185878794
>Super Metroid
>relevant
oh man am i laffin

>>185878172
>>185880546
>Toddler thinks modern games are the pinnacle of speedrunning
Lmao. Respect the SFC,bitchboi

>>185880997
stay mad meme game runner lmao

lmao

lmao

lmao

Alright it's not funny anymore

>>185880997
>any game but SM64
>relevant in speedrunning
lmao

>>185876207
i think this dude would be huge if he didn't has such a bad lisp. these videos are lit. he's like a high energy naegleria.

>>185881210
>>185882926
>this is your brain on nu-running
Holy fuck go masturbate to Bernie Sanders you pathetic little baby. N64 is for toddlers

hey shut the FUCK up

>>185885381
when did i say i liked sm64 at all

>>185874756
Kirby Superstar Saga

>>185885381
>N64 is for toddlers
If SM64 is for toddlers I guess that means your shitty, piss easy 2d meme game is for literal infants lmao

>>185886124
Story?

>>185886929
The moderators (mostly Collective members) accept world records with no video evidence and defend them when others complain.

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>Hurr durr it's just a meme!
No. Most people on /srg/ support the traditional, conservative speedgaming, including:
>Super Famicom
>Japanese/Weeb Worship
>Speed Families (Essentia)
>Pre-2014 GDQs
>Recording gameplay footage (e.g. DVD Player) and not cancerous CLIQUE dialogue
>Speedauthorities like TG and SDA to normalize cross-community rules like no splicing

>>185887582
Oh yeah, I remember that. It is very similar.

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>>185887605
>>Japanese/Weeb Worship

>>185887764
It's an essential part of speedrunning to respect and revere the Japanese community for your game.

>>185887856
that sounds kind of gay though

>>185888030
it's mad fukkin gay actually

>bounceyboy flip flops again
why does anyone still take anything he says seriously? he's the flakiest faggot i've ever seen.

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>>185888129

>>185888259
see
>>185876382

it is really ridiculous

>>185888364
>de hippie spacing

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>>185888401

>>185888030
>>185888129
There are homosexual undertones, but we support white, Christian families and no anal intercourse so you have no worries

>>185889716
>and no anal intercourse
no thanks

>>185888259
>>185888364
It's literally called SCAMathon. Like, what else were people expecting?

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>>185889790
No fags allowed.

Known Cheaters:
Akikan
Cody Miller
GoronGuy
Lunartike
ramel1234567
Raelcun
rwhitegoose
Samuraiman
Slynki
TSA
werster
WhiteAris
Zukoza

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>>185876207
>wonder who is constantly posting about this LTTP shit
>look in the comments
It all makes sense now.

>>185891006
Can we get some details for this with possible exposure documents?

>>185891219
https://pastebin.com/gtEHwLXi

This needs to be updated. Here's another good example of cheating http://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php/140231-Nintendo-Entertainment-System-Mike-Tyson-s-Punch-Out!!-Punch-Out!!-NTSC-Fastest-KO-TKO-of-Mike-Tyson-Mr-Dream-2-8-00-Michael-Girard

>>185891190
What does this image even prove? Also, neither of these people post here anymore.

>>185889716
>>185891219
who is we?

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>>185891425
>neither of these people post here anymore

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>>185891425
>squid and the obsessed freak don't post here anymore

>>185891425
stop trying to deflect the exposure lmao

>>185891190
thanks for the late response!

>>185891462
>>185891634
These reaction images with green text don't prove anything.

>>185891805
see >>185891414 which is literally Cronikeys posting the same thing posted in that exposure picture

>>185891634
reminder the obsessed freak is the reason why squid doesn't come here in an act of orgasm denial

>>185891751
You have not exposed anything. What is it with /srg/ and not understanding the meaning of exposure?

>>185891887
Even if that is Cronikeys, Squid has gone on record to say he very rarely visits this place anymore.

>>185891913
Do you have any evidence to back up this claim? Or are you just trying to big up your own act of obsession?

>>185891425
Cronikeys at the very least DOES still post here. You really think that attention seeking tranny doesn't come here anymore?

>>185892267
i'm literally agreeing with you in the fact that squid doesn't post here

>>185892432
The only post that was directed at you was the last reply.

>>185892548
i'm well aware

"Squid doesn't post here." - Squid, posting here

>>185892629
Evidently not.

>>185892851
it's a joke you retard, as if the "squid is preforming orgasm denial on his freak" wasn't evidence enough

>>185892267
>Squid has gone on record to say he very rarely visits this place anymore.
lmao sure he doesn't

>>185893035
t. obsessed freak coming to terms with the fact that his 3 year crusade has all been for nothing

Shut the fuck up about the obsessed freak. /srg/ has entered a new age of exposing mother fucking splicers and cheaters

diddeh about to smash his pb

>>185893214
>new age
>"""exposing"""
same meme buzzword spouted in this thread for years, splicers and cheaters isn't new either. fucking cakeboys

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>>185893321
nice alt

>>185893684
what

>>185893852
>squidalt

>>185894008
what

>>185894008
why are you posting that to me

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So /srg/, whatcha running?

>>185893684
>Squidalt
lmao

>>185894582
what does he stream on there

>Darbian can't even run the most basic 3d meme games
>flees back to his 2d hold right and jump simulators to avoid exposure

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>squidalt

>>185895479
why are you posting this

>squid doesn't post here anymore
>but squidalt does!

>>185895640
Proof that squid still posts here and watches competitors using an alt

Imagine doing wrong movement on purpose for no reason like Squid.

>>185895805
except it isn't
>hmm 53 people watching..................
>i know squidalt has to automatically be the one posting here!!!!
by that extension squid is the one posting all the wq videos even though it's obvious wq is just whoring himself out

>>185896058
>squid has comments on WQ videos seconds before they're posted in the thread
>BUT IT'S TOTALLY NOT HIM POSTING THEM I SWEAR

>>185896058
It's obviously Squid.

>>185896159
except trannykeys posted first you retard

>>185896182
it's obviously wq, nobody gives a shit about him

>squid probably used his alt to stream and hasnt logged out
>this is somehow a conspiracy to the freaks of /srg/

i dont get it, i really dont

Squid is fuming right now lmao

and this is why SM64 will never be taken seriously (not that it ever should be)

>tfw no one will ever post about you over things that do not matter

185896579 is gay

>tfw it finally happened

Squid and Cronikeys on suicide watch

>>185896530
SM64 is already taken seriously by everyone other than meme game runners.

>>185896868
no it isn't

>>185896904
Wrong. It is objectively the best and only good speedgame.

>>185896970
no, still isn't
stop trying to force your meme game so you can obsess over squid

SM64 is literally the only speedgame that is taken seriously.

>>185897137
Fact.

SM64 is literally the only speedgame.

>>185897137
Fiction.

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Toastrider doesn't have the best moveme-

Hey, shut the FUCK up!

>>185897280
Having good movement is about having good movement consistently. A 14 second star is not a demonstration of good movement. A full 120 star RTA is a more accurate measure.

>>185897452
You need good movement to be good at 120 star, obviously, but you need the best movement to get single star WRs.

>>185897452
meme rules for a meme game

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SNES: 3 games
N64: 2 games
Gamecube: 1 game

Super Famicom wins again

>>185898287
>2d meme games
>winning
lmao

>plum deleted his speedrun.com account because he turned into a tranny
it all makes sense

>>185898391
>meme games
>super baby 64 babies can't compete in them

>>185898527
>someone gets 2nd place in ALTTP by doing no-resets and nothing else
>"b-but it's a hard game, i-i swear!"

>>185898463
does anyone happen to have a copy of the bin before it got changed into a youtube meme?

>>185898669
he started doing no resets after

>Oatsngoats literally just spams runs forever
>gets super metroid any% wr
>"s-super metroid is s-s-s-super hard! it's way harder than sm64!!!"

>>185899165
oatsngoats grinded a sick time after he was capable of a sick time. that is how speedrunning works

>SM64 is super hard
>no, nobody runs any%! that category is stupid because it's hard

>>185899283
He got good by spamming the reset button and doing no practice. That's a sure sign of a piss easy meme game.
>>185899313
Nobody runs any% because it's based on luck, not skill.

>>185899508
>He got good by spamming the reset button and doing no practice. That's a sure sign of a piss easy meme game.

this is not true. speedrunners practice offline, you only see the attempts. stop forcing this about everyone you have a hate boner for, you're pathetic

>>185899508
>it's based on luck, not skill
>it's not a meme game!!

>>185899610
>Oatsngoats practices offline
boy am i laffin
>>185899623
any% in SM64 is a meme category. that's why runners do 120 star.

>>185899802
sm64 is a meme category

>>185899313
>nobody runs any% in super metroid cuz it's shitty
>they run any% (ban everything we don't like) instead.

>>185900041
same with alttp lmao

>>>/mariogen/

>>185899802
>boy am i laffin
this is not an argument

>>185900041
70 Stars (ban everything we don't like)

>>185900165
Nobody takes 70 star seriously. 120 star runners do 70 star for a week when they're bored and obliterate the leaderboard for free.

>>185900165
who is we?

>>185900272
Literally every sm64 spammer in here talks about 70 star runners

>>185900272
Then why do only a handful of people have good 70 star times?

>>185900165
>70 Stars (ban everything we don't like)
The difference is that nobody gives a shit about 70 star, but in ALTTP and Super Metroid those categories are the most prestigious and competitive lmao.

>>185900527
Because 70 star mains are garbage at the game.

SM64, where:
>nobody runs the fastest category
>the most popular categories arbitrarily ban glitches
>the community insists on using slower versions of the game
>many of the former WR holders cheated their runs
>the most popular category is completely meaningless (16 star)

take it to your discord already

>meme game runners genuinely believe that 8 directional controls have more depth and complexity than a literal analog stick

>>185899508
>Nobody runs any% because it's based on luck, not skill.
completely false myth spread by angry memecategory runners to discredit the only real speedrun of sm64
remember how puncay got into an autistic fit and started throwing insults, when a western player decided to go after the 0 star wr? this is how the sm64 community keeps their shitty memecategories relevant.

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>>185899610
>this is not true. speedrunners practice offline, you only see the attempts.

When will highy53 expose lowx52?

>>185902858
This is not an argument. It is true that run time over takes practice time simply because runs are longer and resets can make them take even more time, but you do only see the attempts.

>>185903557
>runs are longer than practice
lmao

>>185904110
That is not an argument.

>>185904110
t. non speedrunner

>>185868464
comfy is just a code word for boring desu

SM64 is the only game worth speedrunning.

https://twitter.com/Naegleria1/status/896508515300155392

>>185910528
Fuck off leaf

>>185912704
t. mad nobody who isnt on the pic

>werster might actually finish a 19 hr run

I don't think I've ever seen a more rng run than these palace runs

>>185912894
I didn't even open the tweet I just dislike Canadians

Congratulation to Werster for another amazing speedrun and another amazing world record under his belt. All Gold Symbols in Pokemon Emerald has been completed in sub 20 hours

>>185866481
Based Puncayshun
Based Anime Avatar
Based Gay Speedrunner

>>185917010
thanks for the late response!

What is natural gameplay?

>>185919595
There is no such thing as "natural" gameplay. The only way to improve is focused and efficient practice.

>>185920250
your posts are boring and meaningless lol

>>185920250
>the only way to improve
Spoken like a true clueless moron who has never speedrun a game in his life.

>>185919595
gameplay you naturally have without practice

>>185921072
>>185921248
Yes, of course, people become magically good at video games out of thin air.

>>185924151
Weak bait.

>>185924364
But that is what you have claimed.

>>185920250

natural gameplay is literally just playing at a natural level, what the hell are you doing

>>185927679
Source?

>>185927964
i'll source my dick into your ass in a second

>>185933294
>doe
pathetic

reminder that headcrab was exposed as the doe poster

>>185933508
thanks for reminding me

>>185933575
anytime, my friend

>>185933643
:)

>>185933294
Wording this. Runs are for retarded grind monkeys.

>>185934251
Double word. Only grind monkeys speedrun.

>cheese on world record pace after dying an hour into the run
>mariofags will still claim 120 star is optimized

>>185934090
nor does he
>de splicer

>>185944510
you really don't have to use de for that

>>185933294
this is hillarious. the dude who cant play rta for shit lecturing on how you have to pick up a speedgame. does this 16 year old weeb know that this is a fucking hobby that people interwine with streaming and that some people also like playing the game and just gradually getting there time down instead of autistically trying to perfect a single star?

>>185933294
t. guy who has autismally been grinding the same star for years expects people with lives to follow his path to being shit at rta

>>185898689
https://pastebin.com/bnx2cTMR

This is probably a stupid question to ask since I'm 100% sure that nobody here knows for sure, but wouldn't something like a supercomputer or quantum computer or whatever be able to determine the absolute optimal solution (in this case, lowest possible time) given all the conditions (console hardware, game programming and pseudo-random number generator, potential peripherals, etc.)? Are supercomputers at the point that they can quickly look through all the "acceptable" solutions for a game (removing all runs that are longer than 22:17) like The Legend of Zelda (USA v1.0) on the NES and choose the best one? It could give every game a "perfect" time for various runs (100%/any%, damage allowed/not allowed, dying allowed/not allowed, glitches allowed/not allowed, potentially ACE) that speedrunners could try to replicate. After all, human error is likely when it comes to luck manipulation in open games.

>>185956291
ok

>>185960161
why didn't you sage?

everyone in here knows that these threads are 90% lyfey and flippy repeating their single star memes right?

ok, you guys like toastrider. congrats

>>185960831
what do you mean by "you guys"?

>>185961113
why there random shit stains on some of the tiles

clint got good at sm64 quickly! twitchxtv/clintstevens

>>185962218
no

>>185962345
t. exposedxmonkey

>>185960161
All the wrong versions.

> page 10

>>185964175
why didn't you sage?

why didn't i sage?

>>185944732
>has 142
>has 49
>can't play RTA for shit
man you people are dum dums lmao

>>185968191
thanks for the late response!

>>185968191
what do you mean by "you people"?

>>185962218
>good
No he's not.

>>185968563
thanks for the late response!

turn the bot off ian

>>185968191
>minutes off the record in both categories
>thinks he has the authority to say everyone should be his level before they do runs when everyone who is better than them has approached the game like any non-autist, doings runs while practicing as they progress

>>185956291
not sure if reddit repost or american maths education

>>185968972
thanks for the late response!

>>185968895
Toastrider is capable of 1:39 already and his final PB grind will be for 1:37 or better.

>>185969109
Just fuck off Toast, you are not capable of a 3 minutes PB.

>>185969401
Go ask in the Discord, if he's capable or not.

>>185969498
Of course a bunch of circle jerking elitists would say anything to act like a single star autist is capable of such a thing. You have to prove you are capable by getting runs on that pace. Blind claims mean absolutely nothing and show how insecure you all are.

>>185969581
Toast has had 47 pace runs into tippy.

>>185969815
Going to need some evidence or you post is meaningless.

>>185970806
>toast pretending he doesnt post here
lmfao

>>185970806
say "lol" a few more times to show how you really don't care, toast

toasts little gay bum buddy is a splicer and is therefor capable of nothing because nothing he will ever do will ever count lmfao

>>185973187
someone should tell wq that the sm64 community is enabling splicers by LETTING A KNOWN SPICER MODERATE THE LEADERBOARD

>>185973618
>SPICER

>>185973668
t. splicer-enabling sm64 clique

>>185973812
you're the one who keeps misspelling the word you fuckin idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>185973618
Wait, is he moderating SM64? Huge if true.

>>185973992
https://www.speedrun.com/sm64
also goronguy, who was too lazy to even cheat a MM run and just streamed the end of a run with a wrong timer, moderates a MM game
https://www.speedrun.com/mmmq

rwhitegoose was a cheater too btw

rbrowndog was a deader too btw

>>185974218
Wow, atmpas, the splicer, is moderating the SM64 leaderboard. This is huge. Someone needs to let WQ know so he can expose these faggots.

>>185974536
go away wq

downtimedeath was a cheater too btw

werster at 9 years old was a cheater too btw

>>185974605
t. scared little discord faggot worried about the incoming exposure to the sm64 community

>>185974727
but i hate sm64

>>185974805
So does the self-hating community.

>>185974218
>moderates a MM game
lol? did you really have to pick a version nobody actually runs instead of the proper, actual game (for which goronguy is nowhere to be seen as a moderator) just to suit your sad, obsessive narrative? lm*o

>>185974997
so do i

>>185975368
actually, having bad times makes you bad. luckily we have times to be able to judge the skill of players so this single star dick sucking means nothing.

>>185975717
who is we?

>>185975368
>11th in 120
>26th in 70
>being this above it all when you are this mediocre
im dead

>>185976087
Toast has dozens of world records in SM64. Sorry that you inanely think RTA is the only part of the game.

>>185976490
>>185976087
Also his RTA times are good, you're a fucking mongoloid for thinking otherwise lmao

lmao

>>185976490
It's the only part of the game that matters. Single Star times are hardly 'world records' when only 2 people go for them. They are don't demonstrate good, consistent gameplay.

>>185976524
Keep posting lol and lmao to show how little you care, Toast. You're the mogloid for being this above it all while also being a weeb.

>>185976623
toast is a weeb? big if true

>>185976623
>It's the only part of the game that matters.
to you*
>Single Star times are hardly 'world records' when only 2 people go for them.
All of the top runners grind single stars, what are you talking about? That's how you get good at the game.
>Toast
I'm not toast, but you're definitely a retard lmao

toast? more like roasted

headstrong is the best speedtranny by far
>inb4 cronikeys
not a speedrunner

>>185976859
>lmao
keep trying, roast

>Squidalt

>>185979636
huh?

>Squidsalt

>Squidsfault

Remember that time Squid gave up on 70 star with a mid 52 because meme game runners cannot compete in real speedgames?

>>185980184
Is it 2018 yet? Has squid failed his goal of 49 by 2018 yet? I don't think so.

>>185979749
squid changed the name of his alt and the obsessive freak is cumming

tfw this loser will never let the general die by badposting* about himself

*not shit just plain bad unfunny posts

>>185980184
When are runners allowed to stop running a game before it's considered not giving up but just moving on?

>>185980810
He gave up.

>>185980889
You just completely ignored my question because you have no logic to the conclusion you have come to.

>>185980969
Moving on is the same thing as giving up.

>>185980810
when you have a wr that will never be beaten

>>185981417
WR is always beatable.

>>185980810
When they reach the goals they set for themselves. Backpedaling on goals is giving up.

>>185982024
When did he say he has given up on the game?

>>185981957
*bird laughs*

>>185982157
What?

>>185982289
you're making excuses for shitty unoptimized grinded memewrs
an optimized wr by a truly skilled player will never be beaten

an optimized vehicle by a truly skilled team of engineers will never be improved upon

>>185982558
When did I say anything that could be considered an excuse? WR in any game is always beatable, that is a fact. Why are you letting your insecurity show so much through trying to put down other runs?

>>185982558
is your second line a quote from siglemic circa 2013?

>>185982558
>grinded
>like a time that you need to grind for is a bad thing
what is this retarded shit?

>>185982558
>an optimized wr by a truly skilled player will never be beaten
literal shit that will never happen unless the skilled player has TAS levels of execution (and if he does it's probably a splice)

this is the part where you say "easiest bait of my life" friend

>>185982708
It's an excuse for when you are exposed to say everyone gets beaten eventually. A pathetic excuse to make your run seem better, when it really you just got there earlier and never deserved respect.

>>185982782
Siglemic gave up on SM64, because he saw that Puncayshun is more talented and capable of achieving the ultimate unbeatable wr. He didn't go "WAAH WAAH ME ME ME ME! THIS IS MY WR! ME NOW GRIND 18 HOURS A DAY TO BEAT THE TRULY SKILLED PLAYER BY A MILLISECOND AFTER PUTTING IN TEN TIMES THE EFFORT! OOH OOH AAH AAH"

>>185982831
You should practice more than you grind.

>>185982843
if runs will be beaten forever, you will have negative time eventually. retard.

easiest dick in my ass

>>185983334
so how did obtaining that "ultimate unbeatable wr" go for him (or anyone else, for that matter)

>>185983429
He paved the way for people like toastrider to achieve it.

>>185983334
t. non running faggot spouting srg cancer phrases

>>185983334
>if runs will be beaten forever
not my point (because people will drop games eventually), but thinking that there's going to be an optimized wr by a truly skilled player is delusional

>>185983906
the most truly skilled player is the one with the best time.

neutral reminder that it's speedrunning not skillrunning

>>185983975
nice job looking at half of the statement you retard

SM64 is a good speedgame but it's probably not the best

>>185984034
the wr holder is always the most skilled

>>185984290
It is objectively the best.

You should have 2000 attempts per year maximum. Honestly, if you exceed that number, it's just pathetic and smells of desperation.
The Grind Monkey Mafia will throw a hissy fit at first, but eventually they will thank us for it.

>>185984290
word
>>185984417
unword

>>185984418
There is no arbitrary limit on how many resets you have and it also means nothing. Cheese has over 11k resets and he has not been playing for 5 years.

basically you are a non runner

/srg/ - non speedrunners

>>185984520
>There is no arbitrary limit on how many resets you have
yet
>Cheese has over 11k resets and he has not been playing for 5 years.
Chimpancheeze
>basically you are a non runner
I'm running right now and typing during cutscenes.

>>185984418
the most stream monster post i have ever seen

>>185984716
out

this thread fuckin sucks

>>185984789
>YOU NO TAKE AWAY MY UNLIMITED RESETS OOH OOH AAH AHH

It's like taking a dog to the vet. You will be more happy with limited resets and efficient practice.

>>185984520
Cheese was truly skilled for the first year he ran the game when 85% of the time he played the game was offline practice, and when he and Simply pioneered a ton of new optimizations after Nero showed them the true potential of the game.

Then he converted to grindmonkeyism, stagnated for months, and rarely updated strats.

Low 1:38 or even high 1:37 are realistic times now, but Cheese and Puncay never learn anything new, despite there being a human theory TAS with loads of new strats and movement to implement that many lesser runners now do.

>>185985281
Word. Cheese has grown apathetic. He's been riding the wave from initial work he put in, but since then he has barely gotten anywhere.

Grindmonkeyism is a plague.

>>185985081
>It's like taking a dog to the vet.
why don't you help take this dog to the grave and stop posting

what does a pro athlete do to improve his performance? does he:
a) do the same stupid movements, proven to be inefficient, 15,000+ times hoping that, maybe, in one of those attempts he gets lucky and it works out for the first and only time OR
b) go through a process of analysis of his performance, physical capabilities and known techniques, enhance his diet to maximize his performance, work on his finesse, technique and precision rather than mindlessly repeat the same pointless routine over and over again and, thus, achieve better, long-lasting results in only a few dozens of attempts

geez, i wonder what would work for speedrunning?

>>185985549
literally what the hell are you doing
how the fuck does diet equate to this speedrunning this is some top tier stream monster autism

Who here thinks the Olympics would have bigger viewership if they gave athletes unlimited resets and you saw sprinters do the first 10m of the race over and over again for hours hoping for a lucky start?

>>185985693
>how the fuck does diet equate to this speedrunning
Diet and exercise affects your mood and mental performance. This is why top esports players take steps to stay healthy outside of their games.

>>185985945
They're all on meth-related drugs.

every single post above this is pure non running srg cancer posting

>>185985693
>how does diet affect dexterity and mental performance
Gee I dunno there, scooter.

>>185986068
it means shit. cosmeme got what is the most important record in speedrunning history while eating nothing but delivery pizzas.

>>185985693
lmao check out this fat fuck

>>185985945
speedrunning is nowhere near esports, it's more akin to a test since you're just using what knowledge you've gained and executing it with a controller
>>185986068
yes because everyone eats the same healthy diet except for speedrunning no they don't you fucking moron look at that fucking grommer salad dodger

>>185986364
>it's more akin to a test since you're just using what knowledge you've gained and executing it with a controller
How wouldn't diet affect this? There is plenty of evidence that what you eat affects how you learn and perform. This isn't new or groundbreaking knowledge, this is shit you learn in the 3rd grade.
>yes because everyone eats the same healthy diet
When did anyone say this?

imagine not even speedrunning and spending every day of your life posting bullshit here

>>185986552
so what you're saying is that someone who has a healthy diet should be a better speedrunner than someone who isn't in the same game, right? i want to make sure you're being straightforward with your retardation

>>185986723
>so what you're saying is that someone who has a healthy diet should be a better speedrunner than someone who isn't in the same game, right?
All else being equal, yes.

You're going to have a hard time finding a situation where all else is equal, though. That's why science controls for external factors, unlike the awful conjecture you're about to spew.

>>185986723
it means it can drastically improve the physical performance of a speedrunner. of course, if that runner were to use an old, outdated or inferior route or strats that would severely hinder his times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zVd_DHV6tI

>>185986818
>You're going to have a hard time finding a situation where all else is equal, though
wow, then i guess diet doesn't matter after all since not all else will be equal!
stop wasting my time

>>185986953
>then i guess diet doesn't matter after all since not all else will be equal!
It's one of many variables that affects your performance you stupid fucking cunt. The existence of other variables doesn't make this variable not exist. I can't even fathom how stupid you must be to incapable of understand this.

>>185987631
>to incapable of understand this.
be incapable of understanding*

please be nicer

>>185987631
so which is it, stream monster retard? everything else will be equal so diet will have a non-minute effect on your preformance, or not everything else will be equal so diet has little effect on a speedrunner's preformance?
protip: i brought up The Grommr Gamer Stigma for a reason

>>185987946
Diet affects everyone's performance in anything. This is a well understood fact. Denying that what you eat affects how your brain works is on par with denying that the earth is round.

>>185988216
>Diet affects everyone's performance in anything.
that's not answering the question, let's try this again
do you truly think that diet has more than a minute effect on a speedrunner's preformance?

>>185988412
>do you truly think that diet has more than a minute effect on a speedrunner's preformance?
Yes, obviously it does, just like it has more than a minute effect on anyone's performance in anything.

>>185988412
>>185987946
>>185986953
you are so fucking stupid lmao

>Fat fuck going to any length to defend his pepsi and doritos only diet.

>>185988549
>Yes, obviously it does
which is why >>185986158 happened, right?

>>185988859
Again, you've failed to control for any other variable. You have no idea how critical thinking works. You are a stupid, pathetic person.

>>185989126
>Again, you've failed to control for any other variable.
why don't you go ahead and list said variables, then?
cosmo was at the top for a reason, and it wasn't his diet

>>185989272
>why don't you go ahead and list said variables, then?
-Amount of competition (and also the life/dietary habits of the competition)
-Number of man hours invested into the category
-Number of attempts
-Previous experience with the game
-iQue advantage

Interestingly enough, Jodenstone beat Cosmo's time, and Jodenstone's diet is objectively and significantly better than Cosmo's ever was. Although, I know that's clearly not the only variable at play. It's just one of several.

This isn't a reason to neglect your diet, though. Being healthy will always give you an advantage over being unhealthy in every aspect of life. Only an unimaginable moron would deny this.

reminder that you soylent apologists are fuckin stupid

>>185989746
>-Amount of competition (and also the life/dietary habits of the competition)
>-Number of man hours invested into the category
>-Number of attempts
>-Previous experience with the game
>-iQue advantage
Also, how effective your practice habits are. That's a big one.

there's nothing wrong with soylent cosmo is just a garden variety spoiled aimless millenial nutter. don't blame soylent.

>>185989746
>-Amount of competition (and also the life/dietary habits of the competition)
>-Number of man hours invested into the category
>-Number of attempts
>-Previous experience with the game
>-iQue advantage
and none of these have to do with diet, which is exactly my point you retard--practice and execution are the biggest things that factor into how good you are (with competition coming after since you need a baseline to judge yourself on)
because of this, diet is nowhere near going to be the deciding factor between speedrunners' times--food is important, yes, but it's pretty obvious nobody's going to be eating straight up trash or loading themselves up on sugar
you change certain things such as your routing, execution, practice habits and the like, but you rarely change your diet--hell, sleep is more important than that

>Interestingly enough, Jodenstone beat Cosmo's time, and Jodenstone's diet is objectively and significantly better than Cosmo's ever was.
and the current record holder is a man who inhales fast food cheeseburgers (with about the same build of cosmo), let that sink in

>>185991072
>none of these have to do with diet
Right, they are some of the other variables.
>practice and execution are the biggest things that factor into how good you are
Diet affects these things.
>diet is nowhere near going to be the deciding factor between speedrunners' times
Noone said it was. That's a strawman you invented. The bottom line is that a variety of factors are involved in becoming good at anything, and optimizing as more of them will always give you an advantage over optimizing less of them.
>it's pretty obvious nobody's going to be eating straight up trash or loading themselves up on sugar
People eat pure garbage all the time, especially NEET faggots who sit around all day playing video games.
>but you rarely change your diet
What?
>sleep is more important than that
Your diet affects sleep.
>and the current record holder is a man who inhales fast food cheeseburgers (with about the same build of cosmo), let that sink in
None of the other runners are healthy either.

>diet doesn't affect your brain or performance
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/scientists-learn-how-food-affects-52668

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/nutritional-psychiatry-your-brain-on-food-201511168626

https://www.livescience.com/48814-diet-affects-brain-health.html

https://www.rmit.edu.au/news/all-news/2016/may/five-ways-junk-food-changes-your-brain

Cherbuin N. Findings suggest possible link between obesity and cognitive decline. Press conference at the annual meeting of the Society for Neuroscience (2014).

Erion JR, Wosiski-Kuhn M, Dey A, Hao S, Davis CL, et al. Obesity elicits interleukin 1-mediated deficits in hippocampal synaptic plasticity. Journal of Neuroscience. 34: 2618-2631 (2014).

Gunstad J, Strain G, Devlin MJ, Wing R, Cohen RA, et al. Improved memory function 12 weeks after bariatric surgery. Surgery for Obesity and Related Diseases. 7: 465-72 (2010).

Harrell C. Consuming a high-fat diet in adolescence may exacerbate depressive-like behavior. Press conference at the annual meeting of the Society for Neuroscience (2014).

Hsu TM, Konanur VR, Taing L, Usui R, Kayser BD, et al. Effects of sucrose and high fructose corn syrup consumption on spatial memory function and hippocampal neuroinflammation in adolescent rats. Hippocampus. 25: 227-239 (2015).

Mennella JA, Jagnow CP, Beauchamp GK. Prenatal and postnatal flavor learning by human infants. Pediatrics. 107: E88 (2001).

Ogden CL, Kit BK, Carrol MD, Park S. Consumption of sugar drinks in the United States, 2005-2008. NCHS Data Brief. 1-8 (2011).

Rivera H. High-fat diet during pregnancy may affect offspring’s eating habits. Press conference at the annual meeting of the Society for Neuroscience (2014).

>denying the literal mountain of evidence about how diet affects how you perform in literally everything

these aren't caleb tips, go back to >>>/fit/

>>185990469
t. Soylent marketing team

>>185991687
>The bottom line is that a variety of factors are involved in becoming good at anything, and optimizing as more of them will always give you an advantage over optimizing less of them.
and that diet is a pretty minute optimization (which is why i kept asking if you believed if it had more than a minute change on a speedrunner's performance), keep up

>People eat pure garbage all the time,
and for speedrunnners it barely matters, otherwise you would see more posts about them changing their diet or what have you--as a matter of fact, the statement of

>None of the other runners are healthy either.
pretty much proves my point on this--they don't care about their diet because they don't need to because it's such a small change, especially compared to their daily lives
like i said, the other variables have much, much more of a difference than this

>>185992957
>and that diet is a pretty minute optimization
Scientific evidence suggests that it's a rather large factor in performance.

I know you're going to deny the science, but ultimately, reality doesn't care what your opinion is.

Why do you non-runners even spend your days talking about all this bullshit? Practice, diet, natural skill, who fucking cares. Just watch people speedrun and enjoy it.

>>185993217
what do you mean by "you non-runners"?

>>185993217
>watch people speedrun
literal stream monster falling for muh middle ground bullshit

>>185992957
>morbidly obese retard ignores literal peer reviewed science so he can stay in denial of how his cheetos and mountain dew eating habits are making him suck at everything.
lmao

There is a strong correlation between being fat and being stupid. Just look at this thread.

>>185993609
Obviously only stupid people get fat. No smart person would let themselves fall that low.

>>185993679
Only stupid and lazy people eat fast food in general. There's literally no other reason to eat it.

>>185993065
>Scientific evidence suggests that it's a rather large factor in performance.
which is why nobody else who speedruns optimizes their diet especially the OOT WR holder, right?

>>185993761
It tastes good and it's fast and easy. I just gave you 2 reasons.

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125KB, 1064x880px

How accurate is this?

>>185993971
don't you mean to ask how irrelevant is this

>>185994070
What games do you speedrun?

>>185993971
most of the people in the top right should not be there and dont even speedrun

>>185994117
HGSS

>>185993894
>he thinks anecdotal evidence and conjecture is a substitute for peer reviewed science.
No, sweetie, that's not how it works.

>>185994205
Nobody on that chart speedruns beside wqqqqwrt though.

>>185993940
>It tastes good
Which falls under being stupid.
>it's fast and easy
Which both fall under being lazy.

>>185994348
Punchy, Squid, Cyberdemon and JangBang.

>>185994348
and even he quit for fucking league
>>185994424
>JB
where the FUCK is NT warrior

>>185994318
nice try, but if it had more of a palpable effect on speedrunning than the other factors, it would obviously play more of a part in said speedrunning
but it doesn't, especially since the majority of speedrunners for say, OOT aren't even obese to begin with

>>185993217
Is it wrong to want speedrunning to be serious competition between mentally and physically healthy athletes with peak nutrition who perform focused practice and make serious PB/WR attempts? That's peak speedrunning. Nobody wants the scene contaminated with obese husks and skeleton autists in moldy caves poisoning their bodies with fast food pizza and ramen while they mindlessly grind runs for 18 hours a day just to get a 1 second PB once a year.

>>185994680
Shut the fuck up and go outside.

>>185994680
omfg

>>185994680
wew lad

about time you shut the fuck up

We all can agree that people like Hitler was a really, really bad person. But what if he is the very reason that I type this very message right now? Like the butterfly effect. What if Hitler is the reason that speedrunning exists, somehow? Would you really hate him as much as you do? These kind of tough philosophical questions I ask myself everyday..

>>185997316
who is we?

>>185994663
>if it had more of a palpable effect on speedrunning than the other factors, it would obviously play more of a part in said speedrunning
No, see, your personal opinions and observations don't just cancel out well understood science. It just means your personal opinions and observations are flawed.

You aren't a smart person.