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A place for speedrunners to gather, except all we do is talk about drama.
Feel free to post your progress of your exploits, though, there's a few of us here that speedrun.
>speedrun.com
>speedrun.tv
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bonoboxhowl
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i did not get a WR again today how about yall
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mindlessxgrind
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birdxmonkey
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Reminder grindaton stopped grinding doom 64 after being exposed as a grind monkey
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>>184719887
letting pathetic srg memes effect you in so embarrasing
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>>184719887
proof
i would like to know how my memes exposed someone internally
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Where will you be when Diddeh exposes Squid?
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>>184725013
in this thread meming about it to distract myself from the fact that I burned myself out on speedrunning and have no other hobbies
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>>184725013
How would that be exposure?
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>>184725358
this one hit too close to home jeez
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>>184725358
dropping a sad word on this
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https://twitter.com/princessproto/status/892782348525334528
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get a life zast
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>>184726331
>calling other people fragile
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Who is the most exposed speedfraud of all time? Hard mode: no Ion, no Cosmo, no confirmed cheaters.
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>>184727215
But it is Ion
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>>184727215
goose
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>>184727215
rwhitegoose
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>>184727215
Goose. He has no notability as a human anymore let alone as a speedrunner.
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>>184726331
>tr*p
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>>184727948
He's literally the realest speedrunner right now. He gives zero shits.
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>>184728293
yeah real fuckin gay LOL
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>>184728293
hi goose
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stop pruning threads faglords
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>>184728293
No one would post this about someone else
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>>184728871
word, which is why it's definitely squid behind the obsessed freak identity
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Is speed typing the hot new speed game? Pretty impressive that Sig was able to re-teach himself typing in a new layout just to be faster.
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>>184729126
whoa siglemic posts here too?
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>>184727215
Noobkillerroof. Exposee by caveman in klonoa and exposed by brescaz in his own meme skeleton game. He never recovered and withdrawed back to twitter to. He even bragged about all his 1st place times he had poating a screenshot of his speedrun.com profile. Eternally BTFO
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heard u was talkin shit
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>>184728293
>He gives zero shits.
lmao. he pretends he doesn't, if that's what you mean.
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>>184716551
who is we?
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>>184729120
no thats just you backpeddalling after years of cancerous obsessing
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reminder that we, us and all y'all could optimize and archive srg if it was just packed up and moved over to reddit
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>>184735221
who is we?
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>>184735338
trotsky436
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The God Gamer Stigma
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>>184721392
>>184721694
>>184721859
>>184722452
>>184724514
>>184725967
>>184737676
>>184741852
>>184742135
why did you delete?
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listen here you goofy little BRERB
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>>184742498
LOOK
YOU BIG EARED FREEF
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>>>/v/385983623
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>>184743536
why did you delete?
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>>184727838
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>>184745743
thanks for the late response!
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I like how the meme has gone from "Diddeh is shit and not even close to Squid" to "D-diddeh is better, I was just stringing you along the whole time! ooh ooh....ahh"
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define meme
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a meme
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>>184749073
>>184747919

>>184749145
>>184749073
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we love squid
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>>184749751
who is we?
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>>184749751
word
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>>184753006
why didn't you sage?
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>>184753576
truly is going for the nosferatu
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>>184753576
I thought this was a photoshop at first
god bless cosmo
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>>184753576
completely fucking
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COSMO COSMO COSMO
there, someone paid attention to you cosmo, like you wanted
now go away
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>>184753576
The transformation is complete.
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>>184753576
Ayy lmao
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>>184753576
if cosmo can be brave enough to go online/out in public like that, cfb can.
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>Cosmo cut his hair
>Put his winter cap back on
>Stopped trying a feminine voice
It's almost like he's really back
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>>184756954
Is he having regrets right now?
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death

DEATH to ALL disgusting tranny FREAKS
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>>184761775
dropping my first word of the day on this post
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>>184753576
What a beautiful shaped skull
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>>184764676
thanks for the late response!
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Is Goose an incel?
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>>184768684
why didn't you sage?
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i guess you could say he's cosme notalright
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>>184753576
>de no hair
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>>184769865
thanks for the late response!
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the bot is based
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slayer
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more like gayer lol
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more like slaybased
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>>184742498
>>184742729
YOU TAKE YOUR HORNY LITTLE ASS AND YOU FIND JEFFREY AND YOU FIND JEFFREY AND YOU FIND JEFFREY AND YOU FIND JEFFREY AND YOU FIND JEFFREY AND YOU FIND JEFFREY
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>>184753576
oh shit it's Voldemort
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The Page 10 Stigma
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What are some minimally autistic speedrunners?

I'm so sick of all these fucking turbo spergs, and all the lesser aspies seem to have disappeared and moved on.
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The Missing Sage Inquiry
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Fuck Gamer God (what?)
Fuck Gamer God (what?)
Fuck Gamer God (what?)
Fuck Gamer God (ayy!)
Fuck Gamer God (what?)
Fuck Gamer God (what?)
Fuck Gamer God (what?)
Fuck Gamer God (ayy!)

Fuck Gamer God, Gamer God a hoe
Flexing like you got it, bitch, I know your ass is broke
Your stream say you got a million viewers, no your ass don't
You a memegame wonder bitch,your whole career a joke
Back in 2012, a tranny kicked you off the steam
Every single day, you wear them same pair of jeans
Them same black pants, bitch, you know which ones I mean
Four years ago, Squid beat your PB
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^ loser alert
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>>184782174
>What are some minimally autistic speedrunners?
Most of them, desu.

Runners like Nindiddeh and FramePerfection are actually kind of uncommon.
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>>184782174
>minimally autistic speedrunners
elaborate, you can't speedrun without a significant case of autism
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>>184783443
Nindiddeh is so painfully autistic. He can't even address anyone in his chat and has no sense of humor.
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>>184761775
especially trannykeys
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>>184753576
Cosmo has gone full circle. He rejected trannydom and cultural marxism. He is a full blown skinhead now.
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>>184788053
lol
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>>184788053
What does marxism have to do with anything?
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>>184788982
bluepilled fag detected

cultural marxism is intertwined with most of western degeneracy, including trannyism
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>>184789327
google it you lazy faggpt it's not like the results of cultural marxism aren't apparent enough for it to be some hidden knowledge
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>>184788982
When the economic side of marxism turned out to be unpopular, marxists devised the new strategy to deconstruct the current culture and replace it with one focused exclusively on inclusiveness, equality, antitraditionalism, antinationalism. A host culture thus subverted to reject all its own values and be hypertolerant of everything else has no more defense mechanisms against the communist revolution. Destroying the traditional family and gender roles is one of the most successful projects of the cultural marxists and the inevatably following plummeting birth rates have been one of the main arguments for replacement migration that leaves the hosts too vulnernable and divided to mount any defense against marxism.
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>>184789626
>>184789726
What does this have to do with speedrunning?
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>>184789930
Yeah, the capitalists just took what the marxists were saying and twisted it a bit to fit their agenda. Now we have this bizarre situation that marxists and communists are simultaneously advocating for women's liberation and mass migration while they despise each other and consider themselves victors over each other.
Normal nation-based socialdemocracy is the loser.
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name the cutest speedboy
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Link to discord???
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me down here im the cutest!
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>>184791101
Missy
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im a hideous speedturd desu
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>>184793059
cosmo...
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>Xiah has better movement than toastri-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NfoanI9ueY
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>>184794525
to be fair, xiah used a different route. but jesus fucking christ toast is insane. that ending was just stupid good
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it's lonely at the top, where the competition homie?
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>>184789726
>>184790681
have you considered not being gay
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>>184796907
After 1,500 attempts, it is finally done. What a godlike Mario player. So capable of stringng together a 1:38.
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>>184799006
yeah, because noone else in the task grinded for their times lmao.

stay retarded, serg.
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>>184792460
h-hey cutie :3
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>>184799391
no consistency cat
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>>184726331
Oh my god, fucking end your life you faggot piece of shit.
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>>184791101
>>184753576
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>>184803379

Word.
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>>184804397

de on purpose bait spacing
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>>184804487

de jin saotome bait reply
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Cosmo, hurry up and stream already
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I started running a vn. Is it over for me?
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The Dead Name Grievance
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>>184726331
When will he stop being this fake?
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>>184806116
When he stops getting attention
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>>184806009
Is it only a vn or does it have other gameplay elements
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>>184753576
its finally happening
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>>184806323
Vn, it's katawa shoujo. It's only choices but you have to wiggle the mouse the entire time to make the dialog faster for some reason. There's also loading and saving at certain times...
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https://archived.moe/vg/thread/122656405/
Look at how far these threads have come.
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>>184811510
its over my man
even PW & DGR do more
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>>184811510
Monster Girl Quest is a good VN with gameplay, try that.
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>>184811802
>November 2015
Come on now, that's not even midboi era
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>>184811802
At least all the donationfags left.
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>>184811802
>the 2nd post is the obsessed freak forcing his shit meme
>2 years ago
un fucking real
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>>184813374
>all the speedrunners left
FTFY
>>184813581
its nearly a 3 year old meme. most stale srg meme by far.
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>>184813697
the most stale srg meme is pretending to be retarded
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When's the next serg marathon?
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>>184814000
lmao
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>>184814000
>implying anyone runs or would want to do it
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2013: oldboi era

2014 - first half of 2015: midboi era

Cosmo's carpe diem tweet: official transition into the current nu-/srg/ era
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holy fucking shit
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>>184814174
>not being a 2012 elderboy
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>>184815238
>staying in this shithole for 5 years
lmao
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>>184815524
it's not like i frequent this place lol...
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>>184815673

haha!
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rofl dudes, rofl
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laughing my ass out, guys
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end
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>>184812094
I used to play that, never thought of running. Thanks!
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>>184814327
What was the tweet that backfired horribly? If I was her, I would delete my online presence in shame and join another community. But that's what a rational person would do, not an obsessed freak.
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>>184816426
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>>184816765
the most above it all and bitter person in the speedrunning community by far
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>>184816765
holy shit what a fag
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>>184816765
>one week to reply

the backlash was great desu, what a piece of shit
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>>184816765
Sometimes I feel like people just shove the word actually in when they want longer sentences. The way some people use it adds no meaning to the sentence.
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>>184817028
actually
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>>184816765
Someone post Krystals pic. I haven't seen it in a while
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>>184790282
Speedrunning causes trannyism, trannyism is a tool of cultural marxism.
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>>184816765
>people say speedrunning is the most degenrate hobby

considering how jadin and krystal are, iidx is far worse
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>>184816765
What was the backlash?
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>>184817638
>trannyism is a tool of cultural marxism.
No, transgenderism is a sign of mental illness, like speedrunning. That's like saying speedrunning is marxism.
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>>184817563
Here you go.

>>184818024
The logbot was bought to everyone's attention after the tweet exchange blew up in the community and everyone ripped into him until he had a breakdown and removed it. Sweet justice.
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after all this time, the obsessed freak is exposed.
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>>184820243
Actually I was just diverting attention from myself by making everyone think it's Krystal.
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>>184818079
Gender dysphoria as a mental illness, which does not depend off DNA, is a tool of cultural marxism. Since it's a mental illness, you don't need to go through a costly checkup for a leftie-aligned "psychiatrist" to write a proper diagnosis. Notice how the queen of speedrunning started chugging pills before going to see an actual doctor. And Canada already passed the law which allows for the state to enforce HRT on children regardless of parents' will.
Communists have a history of using psychiatry as a means of punishing dissents, so it's nothing new either.
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>>184820561
Why would you make a post like that?

>>184820561
>Actually
>>184816765
>actually
>>184817028
Oh, I see. It's Krystal.
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>>184820598
>Communists have a history of using psychiatry as a means of punishing dissents, so it's nothing new either.
Are you a tranny? You sound like a tranny.
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>>184821087
Trannies don't talk shit about communism, you fucking mong.
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>>184821402
Our girl Croni does all the time.
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>>184821402
Spoken like a true tranny trying to hide himself. Get out.
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>>184820598
>mental illness isn't related to genetics
It literally is, though.
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>>>/lgbt/
>>>/pol/
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>>184821658

wording the FUCK out of this
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>>184816765
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>>184794525
Who the fuck invents these arbitrary terms for this shit? The toastrider guy uses different STRATS, not movement. Better movement is tighter inputs, which that is not. He literally does different things to achieve a more competitive IL time.
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>>184818694
nice man chin lmao
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>>184822306
>your arbitrary terms are bad
>my arbitrary terms are good
>ooh ooh ahh ahh
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>>184814174
I want to LICK this animes FEET
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>>184810369
What's funny is that I only found >>184811802 through googling that picture. You played yourself, freak.
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>>184822549
what
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>>184822306
Can you nip worshippers backpedal any further?
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>>184822741
EG...
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>>184822893
surely you can see the irony in someone saying that their own arbitrary terms are the correct ones, and that someone else's are wrong.
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>>184822549
>>184822952
>>184822893
>>184823671
It's not arbitrary.

What if both runners do the exact same tech? Who has better movement then? Neither of them? But one of them is going to be faster even if they both ace everything.

See the logic?
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>>184823753
No.
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>>184823671
>ooh ooh ahh ahh
what
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>>184823810
Well, heck.
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>>184790681
who is we?
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>>184823753
>What if both runners do the exact same tech? Who has better movement then?
The one who moves faster.
>But one of them is going to be faster even if they both ace everything.
If they both "ace" everything, they will both move at the same speed.
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>>184789327
>>184789930
>>184797679
>>184806663
>>184810114
why did you delete?
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>>184825314
>The one who moves faster.
Sounds synonymous to "faster movement".
>If they both "ace" everything, they will both move at the same speed.
Then why can't runners ever match TAS times (human theory TAS for the sake of the argument)? Frames exist, anon.
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>>184804397
>>184804487
>>184804724
>>184821889
>de hippie spacing
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>>184825774
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>>184825181
>>184825368
>>184825774
you know i liked it better when you weren't here

>>184825774
also you missed one, nice work
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>>184825703
It's just the terminology SM64 runners use.

Route - stage and star order.
Strat - the route for a star
Movement - how fast you are able to do that route, and minor optimizations within that route.

if someone does a longjump instead of a dive within the same star route (strat), for example, it's just referred to as "different" or "better" movement.
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>>184826506
but the obsessed freak said its slow
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>>184826831

and wrong
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>>184826506
Fair enough, but it's not the smartest way to call what is essentially faster strats for tech. The video itself says there were only 8 times submitted for that stage. Evidently there weren't enough optimizations done over the years and now toastrider has come with new, faster strats.

The problem is anyone could copy his tech and come up with faster times with that same tech, and what are people going to say? That toastrider and random runner has the same movement, but toastrider happened to be slower? It just wouldn't make sense anymore.
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>>184827402
>de hippie spacing
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>>184827525
>Evidently there weren't enough optimizations done over the years and now toastrider has come with new, faster strats.
It was a "task". Runners are given a specific set of criteria to meet and the challenge is for each of them to independently route and optimize it on their own without sharing anything with one another. Multiple people independently created that strat, or route, but Toastrider created the best known movement.
>The problem is anyone could copy his tech and come up with faster times with that same tech, and what are people going to say?
They'll just say the new person had "better movement" and everyone will know what they meant. If the new person does different types of movement instead, they'll say he did "different movement."
>That toastrider and random runner has the same movement, but toastrider happened to be slower?
They'll say they did the same movement, but that the new player did it better.
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>>184828080
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so sm64 is too stupid to call strats strats. got it
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>>184816426
>her
stfu fucktard
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>>184825181
>>184825774
>>184828542
thanks for the late responses!
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>>184828281
For the record, I think it's dumb to say that Toast has better movement in the context of this task, because they both did different strats.
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>>184828281
so how do you say someone is doing some movement really well
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>>184828981
>Toast has better movement
than Xiah*
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>>184829018
They'll just say that player has good movement.
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>>184828281
>It was a "task". Runners are given a specific set of criteria to meet and the challenge is for each of them to independently route and optimize it on their own without sharing anything with one another. Multiple people independently created that strat, or route, but Toastrider created the best known movement.
Very strange. The natural habit in speedrunning should be to always seek the fastest means of utilizing tech. There shouldn't be any extra emphasis on something like this.
>They'll just say the new person had "better movement" and everyone will know what they meant. If the new person does different types of movement instead, they'll say he did "different movement."
>and everyone will know what they meant.
This is very confusing to newcomers. You can move faster without utilizing better tech, which is synonymous to faster movement.
>They'll say they did the same movement, but that the new player did it better.
Again, this should be universally understood through logic alone. Relying on community lingo is not efficient.
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>>184823669
wrong
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>>184829176
And then you have to explain what you mean by movement because your definition of movement is subjective. Very inefficient.
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>>184829176
that is so retarded and makes no sense. sm64 fags are the worst
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>>184829492
>>184829443
>>184829235
Nobody finds it hard to understand other than people on /srg/ so far.
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>>184829601
You find it easy to understand because you're already familiar with the lingo. This shouldn't be hard to understand in itself and yet you're struggling.
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>>184829770
>You find it easy to understand because you're already familiar with the lingo.
I literally never remember struggling with understanding it, and I am unaware of anyone who has ever struggled to understand it outside of the people here posting about it today.
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>>184829253
shut up faggot, let me spout my vintage meme.
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>>184829870
Because the issue isn't with understanding. The issue is with your choice of wording that doesn't make sense when broken down.
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>>184830052
>The issue is with your choice of wording that doesn't make sense when broken down.
Yeah, but what it actually means can be easily inferred through the context. You're just being autistic and nitpicky.
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>>184830236
>Yeah, but what it actually means can be easily inferred through the context. You're just being autistic and nitpicky.
Not really. I don't run SM64 and for the longest time I thought toastrider was the god of execution only to find out he just uses faster strats.
>>184829018
being good evidence of that. You don't have a word for simply saying someone moves faster because it's overlapping with your "movement" term.
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>>184830738
>for the longest time I thought toastrider was the god of execution only to find out he just uses faster strats.
What? He has the fastest times on scores of RTA strats that everyone else does. You thought correctly, and that's what literally people mean when they say he has fast movement.

Here's an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBGcvqH4Vdc
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>>184830738
Why did you bring up Simply?
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>>184831005
No. When people who follow SM64 say he has fast movement, they mean he uses the fastest strats, and have no way of verifying if his movement is the fastest because nobody else uses the same strats for tech. In result, you spread confusion.
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You spread confusion.
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>>184831395
>When people who follow SM64 say he has fast movement, they mean he uses the fastest strats, and have no way of verifying if his movement is the fastest because nobody else uses the same strats for tech.
Are you retarded? I just explained to you that this is false and showed you a video of him executing a star with the same "strats for tech" everyone else uses.
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Everyone else uses.
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>>184831542
I'll take your word for that and my bad then. However, there >>184794525 you can see toastrider's IL time being compared to slower tech and it's still referred to as "movement" when it's clearly not. This behavior was defended by other SM64 followers/runners as logical, which it is not.
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It is not.

I like this new meme.
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>>184831542
>>184831395
Here are some more examples of Toastrider doing stars ridiculously fast using the same "strats for tech" everyone else uses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWDCw_ysrI8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8MFfsp2aTQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ-eAdE-E0Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv7uHTv7ZgE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VLZQemK-LA

Some of these videos are kind old and may have been beaten by now, but it's extremely clear that he has some of the best movement out of any player. Look at the sideflip he does on wild blue, for example.
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>>184832335
why did you spoiler?
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>>184831815
>However, there >>184794525 you can see toastrider's IL time being compared to slower tech and it's still referred to as "movement" when it's clearly not.
That's just some shitter trying to bait people into arguing about SM64. Looks like they succeeded.
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Like they succeeded.
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Did you spoiler?
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>>184832445
thanks for the late response!
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>>184832353
Thanks, but this is really beside the point, which is about the lingual habits of the SM64 community or rather that one specific habit of referring to unique strats for tech as movement.
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>>184832335
>new meme
nukid come on
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Tech as movement.
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Did you see how I made Mario jump right there? How technical was THAT?!
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>>184833618
why did you sage?
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Did you sage?
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>>184834121
why didn't you sage?
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>>184834172
Thanks for the gender-neutral insult!
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Didn't you sage?
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>>184791101
Linkus
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>>184836092
thanks for the late response!
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>>184830738
>for the longest time I thought toastrider was the god of execution only to find out he just uses faster strats.
what faster strats would those be? can you give even one example?

when people say toast has fast movement, they mean exactly what you thought they meant.
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>>184836652
>can you give even one example?
*apart from the task, which is obviously an example of a different strat/movement.
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turn the bot off ian
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>>184840460
why didn't you sage?
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>>184816765
>random irrelevant shitter @s you
>somehow you're expected to take their simple-minded snark and apologize or something

huh?
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>>184842425
ok krys you can go now
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>>184842425
thanks for the late response!
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>>184842425
a request to move a log bot isn't out of order, krystal
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>>184842831
tell that to mr. arkin and his serg bot!
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he did it lads
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Alright, let's get this started:
Grind Monkey: FuriousPaul, Twocat
Truly Skilled: JoeDamillio
Game: Super Castlevania IV
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>>184843382
after literal months of literal non-stop grindmonkeying he barely beat a truly skilled player through better boss luck
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>>184843721
This is speedrunning. Grindmonkeying is a meme term.
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>>184843721
literally mad
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>>184843382
17k attempts? grindamoeba territory
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a day in the life of birdxmonkey:
>wake up
>initiate autism crusade in the thread for 3 hours
>fire up stream and mindlessly grind irrelevant monkey meme games for 12-14 hours
>wind down by continuing autism crusade for another 3 hours
>get back in cage for a nap
>begin cycle all over again after nap
truly a pitiable existence
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>>184843721
Why are you in this thread if this is your reaction to a speedrun?
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>>184844296
It's not my reaction to "a" speedrun, it is my reaction to 17000 "speedruns".
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>>184843659
Grind Monkey: grav
Truly Skilled: p_
Game: every game grav started to grind because p_ was running it
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>17000 attempts
doesn't darbian have less than that lmao
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>>184844501
So you've never watched more than one speedrun in your life? Is this the reaction you have when someone has a job and has to go through it day after day?
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>>184844052
>>184844501
That's the attempt count of a dedicated runner.
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more like simian
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>>184844715
You get paid for doing your job, though.
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Grind Monkey: obsessed freak
Truly Skilled: tranny posters
Game: shitposting
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>>184844946
A smart streamer gets paid for doing runs, too.
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>>184844715
imagine being a wagie as a hobby
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How did Mr_Shasta get partner with 29 viewers?
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>>184844946
People get paid through donations for streaming as well. You also get to be a part of a community and you have fun, so it's not exactly a thankless task.

>>184845013
If you don't like your job, you're going to go through hell.
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>>184844993
Die, donationfag.
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>>184845194
Nobody likes their job.
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>>184845340
Porn stars like their job.
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>>184845425
90% of them don't, they just do it because it's easy money.
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>>184845608
And how do you know for sure?
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>>184845608
word
it's a very unfulfilling and empty lifestyle, just like speedrunning for a living.
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>>184845337
Imagine falling for the donation fag meme. You are literally handicapped if you don't make money from your stream.
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>>184845678
By reading about how the porn industry actually works, interviews with both performers and people who work behind the scenes, people who hire talent, etc. It's not that hard to get a general idea of how it works.
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>if you get paid for streaming a lot, you're a sellout
>if you don't get paid for streaming a lot, you're a grind monkey
>if you don't stream a lot at all, you're not a speedrunner
What the fuck does /srg/ want?
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>>184845865
Okay, so where's your data? It should be simple to provide the 90% statistic.
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>>184845927
It was an estimate.
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>>184845895
>taking /srg/ seriously
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>>184845978
So you were pulling an argument from your ass. Good start.
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>>184845895
>why shitposting no consistent with reality? ooh ooh
>ooh ohh ahh
>eek ook eek ook
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>>184846094
No, it was an argument based on what I've learned about the porn industry. Are you autistic?
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>>184845895
>What the fuck does /srg/ want?
Literally anything other than speedrunning. Look at the state of this thread.
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>>184846263
If it was based on what you've learned, then you should have accurate data. However, you did not--as you've just admitted--which calls this argument into question.
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>>184846494
lmao.

do you need accurate data to learn how to wipe your ass too?
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>>184846659
You're out of an argument, so you resort to that? This was easier than expected.
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>>184846494
Jesus Christ you are an autist. Porn stars generally don't like their jobs. You don't need data to understand this, it can be learned subjectively through the experiences of almost anyone involved with the industry.
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>>184846795
If your assertion is that porn stars generally don't like their jobs, then you need data to support this. The general rule is "Personal experience is not evidence" for this exact reason.
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>>184847042
Imagine being this defensive about the legitimacy of your jerk off fantasies.
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>>>/pornboards/
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>>184847359
Actually, I think it would be more useful for you to imagine having a rebuttal.
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>>184845895
getting paid for talking about other people's runs like goose
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>>184847042
>you need data to prove a negative
uhh, not how it works little man.
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>>184847626
The argument in question was centered around a general opinion. Try again.
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>>184847626
>little man
>le you are smaller than me post
lmfao
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>>184847626
pretty sure everyone but you is a big guy
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>>184847806
The claim made was that porn stars do not like their jobs. This is a claim to the negative.

It's not up to him to prove that porn stars don't like their jobs. It's up to you to prove that they do.
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Hey, shut the FUCK up!
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>"Porn stars like their jobs"
>"No they don't."
>"YES THEY DO. THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU NOW."
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>>184848040
Unfortunately, he not only started with a statistic, but stated that it was a simple fact to infer--which means it should be simple to provide evidence to the claim unless he pulled the argument out of his ass. Either way, the burden of proof lies with him to prove that porn stars do not, contrary to popular belief, enjoy an action that is meant to literally bring people pleasure.
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>>184848286
Literally shut the fuck up you dumb cunt.
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>>184848370
>>184848369
>*provides no data that porn stars like their job*
Yeah, we're done here.
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>>184848479
You've proven constantly that you're unable to provide your claims, so by all means, leave so you stop wasting my time.
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>>184848369
>an estimate is a statistic
jesus christ lmao
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>>184848479
Shut up, stupid twat.
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>>184848479
who is we?
>>
go to somewhere else already
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>"Leprechauns exist"
>"They probably don't, most scientists would agree."
>"LOL YOU JUST PULLED THAT OUT OF YOUR ASS, YOU NEED DATA TO PROVE IT."
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>>184845178
diversity quota
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>>184848971
Quit it, mongloid cunt. Stupid faggot.
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>>184848369
>Either way, the burden of proof lies with him to prove that porn stars do not, contrary to popular belief, enjoy an action that is meant to literally bring people pleasure.
Sex is meant to create babies you dumb fuck lmao.

Obviously people who are forced to have sex with potentially gross diseased people day in and day out are going to grow tired of it and eventually not enjoy it. This isn't really something that requires data, it's just common sense.
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>>184848971
Well, where is the data on the claim that most scientists think that leprechauns probably don't exist?
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>>184848971
how mad can you get dude LMAO
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my dream one day is to get a wr relevant enough for someone in srg to (be stupid enough to) post it in the thread so I can watch the thread become even more of a shitshow than it usually is
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>>184849416
If you're interesting enough /srg/ would already be talking about you.
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>>184849483
so squid is the most interesting speedrunner alive, then?
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>>184849217
>he needs data to be convinced that scientists believe in leprechauns
Aggressive, severe, intractable autism.
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>>184849591
He's certainly more interesting than most speedrunners, which is why /srg/ talks about him all the time.
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>>184849591
yes, the exposure never ends
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>>184849679
>that scientists believe
*don't believe
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>>184849591
no, he just exposed a scrub (ion) which caused another obsessed freak to start posting about him non-stop
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>>184849206
>Sex is meant to create babies you dumb fuck lmao.
Sex is meant to create babies, but it's also meant to bring you pleasure so that you have further incentive to do it again and thus make more humans. This is basic stuff.

>>Obviously people who are forced to have sex with potentially gross diseased people day in and day out are going to grow tired of it
Would you like to take a guess as to how many people masturbate daily?
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>>184849748
found the exposed scrub
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>>184849932
>masturbation is the same thing as having sex with other people
Kill yourself, my dude.
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>>184848971
nice false equivalence there buddy you really are trying hard as fuck to push this
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>>184850073
So what's the argument you're trying to make, here? That porn stars--people who have sex often--are afraid of disease even though the chance is low? Or that having sex daily makes you grow tired of something even though it quite literally brings you pleasure?
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>>184850095
No, the analogy is apt. Autist claimed porn stars like their job. The other guy rejected that claim. Autist then thinks data is required to prove that they don't enjoy their jobs.

That's not how the burden of proof works.
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>>184850028
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>>184850372
except burden of proof works through the person having to disprove a generally held claim
who the fuck doesn't like sex besides fags
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>>184850403
Nice selfie, exposed faggot.
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>>184850271
>That porn stars--people who have sex often--are afraid of disease even though the chance is low?
The chance isn't as low as you think. They're required to be tested once a month by law, this doesn't take into account how many times they've had sex in the meantime, or the latency of HIV antibody detectability in blood testing.
>Or that having sex daily makes you grow tired of something even though it quite literally brings you pleasure?
Having daily sex with people they may or may not be attracted to, at times when they may not be in the mood for it, having to shoot for 5+ hours at a time, having to maintain a boner for that long, cum on command, etc.

Porn stars are actors. They pretend to enjoy it for the camera. Also, James Earl Jones isn't really Mark Hamills father. Who the fuck knew?
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>>>/anywhereelse/
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>>184850817
You've got to love how it only takes one push to send the obsessed freak into a sweaty hissy fit.
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>>184849679
It doesn't exist, because scientists are smart enough to be agnostic on such matters. Just like God, there's a 50% chance that he exists.
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>>184851282
>there's a 50% chance that he exists.
yeah, just like how there's a 50% chance you'll win the lottery. you either win it or you don't lmao
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>>184850271
>even though it quite literally brings you pleasure?
the process of shooting porn is not at all designed to bring pleasure to the actors. it's designed to bring pleasure for the viewers. you are one deluded cunt.
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>>184850763
>They're required to be tested once a month by law, this doesn't take into account how many times they've had sex in the meantime
That's because they don't typically have that much sex--they're busy, of course they don't have much time for it.

>Having daily sex with people they may or may not be attracted to, at times when they may not be in the mood for it, having to shoot for 5+ hours at a time, having to maintain a boner for that long, cum on command, etc.
Okay, this is where I can actually start the burden of proof. You've made an assertion I can refute.
https://www.livescience.com/27428-truth-about-porn-stars.html
>Sixty-nine percent of porn actresses ranked their enjoyment of sex as 10 out of 10, a rating given by only 32.8 percent of non-performers.
(As an added note, the link in brackets after that is clickbait. The data was drawn from a database.)
>Also, James Earl Jones isn't really Mark Hamills father. Who the fuck knew?
of course not they don't have the same last name LOL
>>184851945
I was clearly talking about the process of orgasm, as I defined in another post. Read more.
>>
You've got to love how the obsessed freak is actually a highly secretive and coordinated team of anti-srg infiltrators that have their own Discord channel used to plan assaults on our fair homeland.
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>>184852287
>claims porn stars don't have that much sex
>cites shitty opt-in study that explicitly states they have sex earlier and more often, even outside of work, than average people
uhh
>"Kross warned that the finding that porn actresses enjoyed sex more than other women might be unreliable, given that a porn star's public image relies on her fans' belief that she thinks sex is the "greatest thing on the planet."
lmao
>of course not they don't have the same last name LOL
The fact that you think a kid must necessarily have the same name as their father makes it pretty god damn clear how stupid you are.
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>>184849591
squid is the one endlessly talking about himself so no, he's not interesting
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>>184853104
even if they do enjoy having sex more than other women, it doesn't mean they enjoy the sex they have at work. god damn what a pathetic and terrible study. the whole time the guy sounds unsure about what he found.
>>
The God Gamer Stigma
>>
get help
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>>184853104
>cites shitty opt-in study that explicitly states they have sex earlier and more often, even outside of work, than average people
>uhh
First of all, the data was drawn from a database--I literally told you this in the line after the link. Secondly, I'll give you that other point due to the ambiguity of us not having accurate data for how much they have sex.

>>"Kross warned that the finding that porn actresses enjoyed sex more than other women might be unreliable, given that a porn star's public image relies on her fans' belief that she thinks sex is the "greatest thing on the planet."
>lmao
So your argument is based on the opinion of not only one sole person, but also one who says that the data "might" be unreliable? Terrible play.
>The fact that you think a kid must necessarily have the same name as their father makes it pretty god damn clear how stupid you are.
Did the lack of grammar and punctuation, followed by "LOL" not clue you in to the fact that it was a joke?

>>184853583
You're free to show another article. Unfortunately, I doubt you'll find a better one, due to reasons the article states.
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>>184852287
>survey done by only volunteers
>survey done only by women
>survey done only by actresses in the USA
>article states that porn stars are known to be reluctant to help researchers
>study is not peer reviewed
>study has not been published in any research journal
>article explicitly states to take findings with a grain of salt
lmfao holy shit. you're really reaching, buddy.
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>>184854457
Literally half of these problems can be rectified by you looking at the database yourself, it's a public source.
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no one cares
>>
*nollies into thread*
speedrunning eh? i speedrun the pavement *practices kickflips in an empty parking lot*
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dropping an upword on the post above
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i'm about to speedrun my fucking life
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>>184855120
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJU8BP0ZiHg
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>>184855345
HELO

quick update: apparently someone made some twitter accounts in my name, just wanted to say that's not me. if you want to stalk me i recently made an instagram (nitodah) for skateboarding stuff mostly. unsure when i will return to streaming.

love and miss you all

by
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>>184855635
ok
>>
a BULLET in the HEAD of EVERY disgusting tranny FREAK especially ESPECIALLY that NUTTER croni
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a BULLET in the HEAD of EVERY disgusting grind monkey FREAK especially ESPECIALLY that NEET CHAV squid
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this thread is ass
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>>184856115
why did you spoiler?
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>>184818694
Dang! She's a major qt! Think if I go to AGDQ that I'll have a chance?
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>>184856316
Luck be a lady!
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>>184856316
thanks for the late response!
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>>184856115
so are you wal
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turn the fucking bot off ian
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>>184856316
>she
stfu fucktard
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https://vimeo.com/228302387

Chibi vs. Kiwifarms!
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>>184856448
I am not ass
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speedrunning
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imagine mindlessly grinding runs like a literal simian and not even getting donations when you could be just streaming some focused practice, improving your pb and living off of donationfriends easily
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*imagines it*
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>>184856662
good post
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>>184856603
>even his penis looks autistic
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>be pure speedboi streaming without any donations
>viewer numbers start rising
>viewers start to literally beg you to give them a donation button
>well, why not? if they want to give me money for no reason so badly, let them
>at some point they start making demands because they invested money
>there is drama over banning a frequent donor
>have to pay taxes and doxx yourself because you are "running a company" now
Just don't even go there.
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>>184853454
Are you Squid then? Exactly. You fuel it without even realising because you're so obsessed.
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>>184858189
>streaming
>focused practice
pick one
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>>184856603
>First minute in
>"I'm literally shaking"
Kek, I thought this was just a shitty meme
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>>184859667
>banning a frequent donor
do you hate money?
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http://reddit.com/r/SamandTolki/comments/6rgn54/possible_solution/
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imagine being the kind of degen that frequents kiwi farms enough to participate in a "talent searchers" discord to find new lolcows
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>>184865550
what does this have to do with speedrunning?
>>
imagine not knowing what that has to do with speedrunning
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>>184867754
so explain it then
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>>184867806
this faggot is calling you out for being new because he thinks posting "speedjams" with a picture of a girl who is tangentially related to a speedrunner is speedrun related, when in fact it's just pointless fluff
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>>184856591
why did you delete?
>>
the CURE for mentally ill ill tranny FREAKS is 357ccs of LEAD injected DIRECTLY INTO THE BRAIN
>>
Speedrunning was such a big mistake.
>>
A big fuckin' mistake.
>>
A big fuckin' shitty mistake.
>>
>>184878789
why didn't you sage?
>>
How do we stop Goose?
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>>184879975
who is we?
>>
>>184878789
why did you delete?
>>
Why did you bump?
>>
How do we stop Ryan "RWhiteGoose" White?
>>
>>184884737
who is we?
>>
How do we stop the Gooseman?
>>
>>184885043
who is we?
>>
>>184864340
Absolute fucking freaks
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>>184885690
thanks for the late response!
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I like smoking we ed!
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>>184885851
who is we?
>>
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He's coming back any day now, r-r-right?
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>>184886402
nope
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why didn't i sage?
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>>184889709
ikr
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>>184889709
iktf
>>
The Page 10 Stigma
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>>184856603
>stream is just background ambience while chibi and his gf talk about their lives
>dude fuck stream monsters lmao
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who here /comfy/ watching the narci stream?
>>
comfy is just a code word for boring desu
>>
The Page 10 Stigma
>>
I saved 5 seconds on mario kart 64 last night, that was nice.
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>>184917674
Yet you couldn't save the dog by burying it, that's not nice.
>>
[distant bird laughter heard high above it all]
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>>184917981
H-how did you make me feel bad for doing what I do. All I want is to speed.
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>>184918751
speed has been long gone from here ur better off elsewhere
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>>184917674
Good work, keep it up!
>>
Remember that time Diddeh was on Squid exposure pace in BitS after putting less than half the time and attempts into the game as Squid?
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>>184919353
No.
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>>184919353
Clint was on pace to beat Squid last night but choked it away. It is only a matter of time my friend.
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>>184919497
lmao
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>>184919497
And it's only a matter of time before everyone moves on from this irrelevant meme game to Super Mario Sunshine.
>>
Remember that time there was't an obsessed freak?
>>
remember that time squid was exposed as the obsessed freak on top of being exposed as a brainless grind monkey?
>>
Imagine trying to backpedal after 3 (THREE) years.
py@ has been surpassed
>>
squids capable of an easy 50
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>>184921718
>easy
lol
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>>184919353
>half the time
lmfao, he was grinding sm64 during his entire sunshine grind
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>>184922370
Prove it.
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>>184922462
i dont need to, just letting you know
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>>184923156
How can anyone know you're not full of shit without proof?
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>>184923994
works both ways mate. difference is im speaking fact and you're just an obsessive shitter trying to put squid down as per usual. yawn
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>>184925876
gotta admit this stuff always gets a chuckle out of me

the fact that squid ACTUALLY said on twitter he wanted to fucking screech like a banshee word for word makes it all the more hilarious
>>
does ryan "rwhitegoose" white have a real job yet?
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>>184929423
No, he has a broadcasting "degree". What the fuck kind of job can you get with that? lmao
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>>184929718
>he'll get a radio job b4 g0b1n
>>
i have a degree in podiatry and the only job i can get is licking feet
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>>184929718
He can work with the successful freelance journalist Alison Arkin.
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>>184930020
>>184929718
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ilhsdtd4XeY&t=5m47s
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>>184930483
based, best 30 seconds of my life
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yeah squids a funny guy unlike most
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>>184925876
>>184926502
t. triggered samefag having his daily breakdown, the 9,00th breakdown in his 3 year crusade
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>>184931560
>>184931635

>>184931540
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>>184931839
>de hippie spacing
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>>184925876
how can one freak be so wrong
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>>184931970
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>>184932539
squid is wrong about everything, it only makes sense that his obsessed freak persona would follow suit
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>>184933134
t. obsessed freak with an bizare hatred for squid but only behind 4chan
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>>184933596
>t. squid with an bizare hatred for squid but only behind 4chan to keep himself relevant in a dead community
ftfy
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>>184933708
>backpedalling harder than pyat pyat after 3 years of obsessive hatred and slander
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>>184933895
you mean
>being exposed harder than headcrab being the doe poster after 3 years of obsessive hatred and slander directed at yourself to desperately hang on to the relevance you never had in the first place
>>
>desperately clinging to squid as the only excuse to make your shitty N64 meme game more relevant than the superior GC sequel
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>>184934232
>still forcing your game when no one cares
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>>184934463
Agreed. Stop forcing SM64, no one cares.
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Who was in the wrong here?
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>>184934692
why the fuck is he so mad lmao
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>>184934692
Siglemic is in the right but he's being really salty and aggressive for some reason. Dude needs to chill.
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>>184934692
Based fucking Mike
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>>184934692
somebody needs a diapey change :3c
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>>184934692
Siglemic is in the wrong, despite being correct. Social interaction 101.
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>>184934692
>>184935317
If you ever needed more proof that siglemic is legit autistic.
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>>184934692
Lucas
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>>184934692
What the fuck? Acting like a complete dick here.
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>>184934692
tbf salt doesn't seem to provide his sources at all in this videos afaik, which I think is the least he could do considering he rips a lot of this info from wikis and gdocs ppl made and shit
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>>184934692
siglemic was always a dickhead. I don't know why this is surprising to anyone.
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>>184934692
>a literal who, who is actually shit at sm64 compared to the new players, acting high and mighty
lmfao
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>>184924641
>>184925876
>>184931635
why did you delete?
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gonna get back into sm64 to bop squid wish me luck
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>>184938117
why would you set yourself such a low goal? why squid?
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>>184938374
>p-please don't expose me... me been exposed enough... ooh ooh... ah...
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>>184938374
havent played since 2013 and even then i was only a highx53 lol.....
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>>184938520
who has exposed squid in sm64
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>>184938904
himself for being a stupid fucking grind monkey who grinded 70 star for 18 hours a day for years and still being stuck at a mid 52
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>>184939001
>stupid fucking grind monkey
meaningless forced meme that doesnt mean anything

>who grinded 70 star for 18 hours a day for years
he streams as much as any other speedrunner and only treated it as a side game for most of that time

>being stuck at a mid 52
he has a low 52

wow
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>>184939274
>only treated it as a side game for most of that time
lmao
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>>184939471
yes, that is what i said. are you going to act like that isnt true? do i need to expose you harder than you are exposing yourself??
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posting this every day until it happens and i will not give up. this will be an exposing reminder daily until it happens.
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>>184938724
so the next /srg/ affiliated streamer who starts running 70 star is the obsessed freak. nice. look forward to your outing. no backing out now! >>184939798
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-silence after the self exposure-
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>>184940065
im not krystal lol......
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>>184939578
How is 18 hrs a day considered a side game?
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>>184941091
where is the proof that he plays 18 hours a day? All I see is it being repeated until people think it's fact.
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>>184941091
>>184941378
>>184941428
>>184941518
>no response, goes back to posting meaningless tired as dirt cancer posts
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>>184941669
I checked his past broadcasts and it looks like he streams roughly 2 - 5 hours and it varies. I have a feeling that the obsessed freak likes to repeat things in this thread until the gullible think it's legit. Kind of pathetic, really.
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>>184941669
>>184941835
Uh oh, this is going to send the obsessed freak into a shit posting meltdown.
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>>184941669
Where is the proof that Diddeh plays more than Squid?
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>>184942193
Diddeh was learning and grinding SM64 offline and on an alt throughout his Sunshine grind. It isn't a secret. He is also playing all day every day as we speak.

You can even ask him if you want proof. Nice job completely avoiding the question and asking something completely irrelevant, though.
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>>184941669
I wasn't the person you were originally talking to. Was just assuming he wasn't exaggerating. Didn't realize you'd aspie out and assume I'm fuming with rage for some reason.
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>>184942408
Provide proof or fuck off.
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>>184941678
I wrote the first, but not the rest... Your guessing is pretty funny though.
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>>184942656
After you provide proof of Squid playing 18 hours a day, I will post what I just posted again. Maybe it will then get through your thick, neanderthal skull.
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What are you running for the 12 Hour Challenge serg bros? xP
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>>184944305
just going to screech at the top of my lungs for 12 hours
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>Squid's chat talking about how bad SM64 is
lmao
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>>184944305
post about squid to sate my obsession
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>>184944660
And this is wrong?
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>>184944509
https://youtu.be/CbO78oDPN9s
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>>184944856
Obviously. SM64 is objectively the best speedgame with the highest skill ceiling.
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>>184944509
bansheexscreech...
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>>184944992
No it is not. Stop your delusion.
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lowx52 is better than lowy54

>muh bits pace
you can theorize all you want, but right now gxm is superior to syc
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>>184945091
It clearly is, which is why meme game runners are completely incapable of getting good times when they play it, realize they've bitten off more than they can chew, and then give up.
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>>184945210
That's most likely because they realize they're about to go too deep into what is literally a garbage meme game, and stop before it's too late.
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>>184945447
No, it's because they cannot compete. The Yoshi's Island world record holder ran it for months and couldn't even get sub 2.
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>>184945628
Because Yoshi's Island is a better game. How is this surprising?
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Just to spite the obsessed freak, I'm going to donate to squids stream.
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Just to spite the obsessed doggy, I'm going to sudoku to walruss waterfall.
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>>184946419
same
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>flippy_o hosted squid
lmao
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Just to spite NKR, I'm going to have 10 beautiful mixed children with Squid.
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>>184946796
squid is white though??
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>>184945805
How is it a better game if the world record holder can't even get a sub 2?
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>>184949412
So you're saying SM64 runners are somehow proficient in every game?
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>>184949590
No. Can you not read?
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>>184949703
Then why are you trying to use a sub 2 as evidence?
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>>184949590
Nero got MM9 WR like a week after first playing the game.
Cheese became a top 100% player in OoT in like 2 weeks.
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>>184949851
Because he ran SM64 for even more time than it took him to get the YI 100% record.
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>>184941378
>>184941428
>>184941518
>>184942284
>>184942321
>>184942373
>>184942575
>>184943112
>>184943176
>>184943317
why did you delete?
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>>184950501
Once again, both better games than SM64. I'm not sure why you're replying to me.

>>184950503
That's natural since SM64's movement/camera is a clunky and counter-intuitive mess. Yoshi's Island is far simpler because it's a better game.
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>>184944305
sm64 70 star.
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>>184950765
Why can Sm64 players switch to better games and dominate the field but not the other way around?
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>>184950765
>That's natural since SM64's movement/camera is a clunky and counter-intuitive mess.
No, it's very easy to play, and widely considered by both fans and critics to have some of the greatest controls in any video game. It's very difficult to get good at, which is because it has a high skill ceiling.
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>>184950948
>why do better games have a better flow for everyone than this clunky mess?

>>184951007
>widely considered by both fans and critics to have some of the greatest controls in any video game.
You're really reaching.
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>>184951076
>You're really reaching.
No, I'm being completely honest. You are the one being disingenuous by denying this fact.
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>>184951284
Okay, then let's start simple. If it has some of the greatest controls in any videogame, why is the camera so ass?
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>>184934692
no one, sellouts always go for the middle of the road "it's ok im a POSITIVE person i mean no one harm!" kind of attitude

you have to call them out for what they are it's like with vultures and hyenas their first instinct is get away from trouble

fucking disgusting behavior
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>>184951423
>why is the camera so ass?
The camera is fine. Typically the only people who can't figure out how to use it are retarded people.
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>>184951589
>The camera is fine.
So you're just a nuthugger, then? That makes much more sense.
I don't know how you can defend it when you have to control it with buttons instead of a stick or a mouse when you want it to be at a specific angle.
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Game Grumps said sm64 has bad movement. Why would I believe or listen to anyone else?
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>>184953348
>ego "cant into 3d zelda" raptor
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/srg/ said speedrunning the game more than once is bad. Why would I believe or listen to anyone else?
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i learned everything i need to know about speedrunning from /srg/
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>>184953594
word, get all those unoptimized meme game records
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/srg/ gets its knowledge about speedrunning from posting about the same person 24/7
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>>184953812
>/srg/ is one peron
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>>184953918
Stop replying to yourself, freak.
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>>184951761
>I don't know how you can defend it when you have to control it with buttons instead of a stick or a mouse when you want it to be at a specific angle.
These facts alone make it perfectly consistent for doing setups in speedrunning, which directly contradicts what you've said about it being hard to control.
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>>184954618
You're using it probably working in a single style of play (speedrunning) as evidence for it having the greatest controls in a videogame. That's not a great start.
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>>184954914
This is a speedrunning general you dumb fuck. We're talking about SM64 as a speedgame.

Yes, the camera is unintuitive for retarded irrelevant casual players who somehow miss the signs in game that specifically tell you how to press R + down.
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>>184955157
who is we?
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>>184955157
>We're talking about SM64 as a speedgame
Unfortunately, that shifted once you claimed that SM64 was "widely considered by both fans and critics to have some of the greatest controls in any video game". Don't try to run away from that now. We're getting somewhere since you're admitting the faults of the camera, though; it has bad camera controls (R+Down is a pretty bad workaround, especially given the N64's controller) that are severely inferior to ones where you can control through using, say, a stick.
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hey shut the FUCK up
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Hey, shut the FUCK up!
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>>184955596
>widely considered by both fans and critics to have some of the greatest controls in any video game
This is the truth.
>it has bad camera controls
It has mildly unintuitive camera controls that are extraordinary simple to learn and understand.
>R+Down is a pretty bad workaround, especially given the N64's controller
If you can't figure out how to press R+c-down on an n64 controller, you are neurologically disabled.
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SHUT

THE FUCK

UP
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>>184951076
>sm64 is widely considered by both fans and critics to have some of the greatest controls in any video game.
>You're really reaching.
Imagine being so disconnected from reality that you would deny this.
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>>184955978
>This is the truth.
Incorrect.
>It has mildly unintuitive camera controls that are extraordinary simple to learn and understand.
That doesn't change the fact that they A) are inferior to a stick or a mouse, and B) render you locked to a few angles at any given moment.

>If you can't figure out how to press R+c-down on an n64 controller, you are neurologically disabled.
That's not the point. Have you honestly never held an N64 controller?

>>184956180
That's not even a perfect score and none of the reviews talk about controls, what's your point?
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SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>184947684
yeah, and i'm black, so...
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*locks my doors*
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>>184956725
>Have you honestly never held an N64 controller?
Yes, it feels fine. You hold the middle prong with your left hand, and the right prong with your right hand, and it feels exactly like any other controllers.

The joystick is also objectively very precise, with a greater angle range and more acceleration steps than either PS2 Gamecube controllers. Its one flaw is that it wears down more quickly than other controllers, but if you grease the stick it can last upwards of 3000 hours before it needs to be replaced
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>>184956725
>That's not even a perfect score and none of the reviews talk about controls, what's your point?
sm64 is widely acclaimed for its controls. that's why people praise its controls so often.

sorry that you didn't like them, but that doesn't really mean much in the big picture.
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>>184957127
>He won't notice that I don't have a source, if I keep presenting it as fact.
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>>184957221
Oh okay, the people who say it has good controls are just lying. Stunning insight.
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>>184957394
>the people who say it has good controls
Who are these? You and your boyfriend?
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It's kind of coincidental how like in most games pigs are evil
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It's kind of coincidental that you don't shut the fuck up
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dedicate my next run to the almighty creator and his son jesus christ
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>>184957604
>trying this hard to deflect from the fact that have you have nothing to back up your claim that Sm64's controls are considered by critics one of the greastest among all video games
pathetic
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>>184957062
>You hold the middle prong with your left hand, and the right prong with your right hand, and it feels exactly like any other controllers.
Yes, and the problem comes when you have to reach for the shoulder button.
Because of how you have to hold the controller, if you want everything to be within reach, you have to raise your hand and create a grip there--or, if your game doesn't use the shoulder buttons that much (like many of them), you just go with the much more sane control of keeping all fingers but your thumb wrapped around the right prong. Either option is easily different than another controller--and is why changing the camera is so counter-intuitive.
The Dpad and the L button force you to change your grip, but that's irrelevant.

>>184957127
>sm64 is widely acclaimed for its controls. that's why people praise its controls so often.
Okay, then open the critic scores and tell me where they state this.
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>>184958090
>the problem comes when you have to reach for the shoulder button.
not if you don't have little baby hands lmao
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>>184958449
You literally just proved my point about raising your hand to create a grip.
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>>184958562
That's not raising your hand, that's holding the prong.
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>>184958628
Your hand is at a higher level than the other. It isn't the same grip as your left hand.
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>>184958736
>Your hand is at a higher level than the other.
Wait, THAT'S your issue? What in the fuck is wrong with your brain that makes holding your hand a few centimeters higher a problem?
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>>184958736
are you one of those autists that has epileptic seizures because the xbox joysticks are asymmetrical?
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>>184958449
>same finger for A and B
bad design
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>>184958843
Because how is that "exactly like other controllers" by any means? How is a grip that forces you to shun the other shoulder button and the d-pad a natural feeling? This is especially considering that this isn't a natural grip for N64, since the lack of shoulder button usage means you keep your grip around the prong as always.
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>>184959234
>Because how is that "exactly like other controllers" by any means?
Because it feels exactly like other controllers. Better than most other controllers at the time, in fact. I know multiple people who hated PS1 controllers back in the 90s because of how small the controller was compared to N64 and Dreamcast, and how awkward the joystick position felt.
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>>184959462
>at the time
Don't move the goalposts. Your claim was about all of videogames, not videogames up to Sm64's release.
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>>184959462
>Because it feels exactly like other controllers. Better than most other controllers at the time, in fact.
There is no way you're being serious with this. You're literally forced to ignore half of the controller with your grip and then waste time changing it if you've need of the other side.
>I know multiple people
Personal experience is not evidence.
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>Your claim was about all of videogames, not videogames up to Sm64's release.
There are several better controllers available today. But newer controllers are better than all of the other controllers available in the 90s as well. I was using N64s competitors and predecessors as a frame of reference.
>>184959785
>waste time changing it if you've need of the other side.
Not an issue. There are no games that require all 3 prongs. Simply pick up the controller with the grip that corresponds with the game you're playing, and place it down after you are finished. No switching required.
>Personal experience is not evidence.
Everything we're talking about here is subjective and anecdotal. We're literally debating opinions.
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>>184957538
>Who are these?
i know this is bait, because nobody is actually this retarded, but i'll bite.

the entirety of the sm64 speedrunning population, for one.

the people who give the game 10/10, because a perfect score implies they believe the game has good controls.

the people who talk about the game on /vr/ and other retro gaming forums.

so on, and so forth. this information isn't difficult to find. if you can't find it yourself you are functionally disabled.
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>>184961459
Are you admitting you are wrong about SM64 having one of the best controls of all time?
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>>184962415
Why would I admit that I'm wrong about the truth?
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*hides under the blankets*
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>>184962410
>the entirety of the sm64 speedrunning population, for one.
people speedrun sm64 because other people speedrun sm64. also it looks nice to a viewer, you don't see the pain of having to deal with the bad controls on a stream. and then there is stockholm syndrome with the longtime runners who defend the game because it has taken control of their life.
>a perfect score implies they believe the game has good controls
not true, my favorite games have bad controls, but I won't lie about it.
>the people who talk about the game on /vr/ and other retro gaming forums.
show posts that describe its controls as one of the best
>find it yourself
ultimate backpedaling
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>>184962514
You don't know the games of the future or parallel universes, for one.
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Unusualcook, when is Grimoire WR?
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>>184963524
when did he grow freckles
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>>184962847
>people speedrun sm64 because other people speedrun sm64.
>there is stockholm syndrome with the longtime runners who defend the game because it has taken control of their life.
they run it because they like the game, just like all other speedrunners.
>not true, my favorite games have bad controls
if you think a game has bad controls and give it a 10/10, you don't understand how ratings work.
>show posts that describe its controls as one of the best
so you're functionally disabled then.
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>>184963075
What does that have to do with anything? I said it has "some of the best controls in any video" not "the best controls".
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>>184961459
who is we?
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>>184963524
why did you delete?
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>>184964249
>they run it because they like the game, just like all other speedrunners.
lmao
>if you think a game has bad controls and give it a 10/10, you don't understand how ratings work.
If I enjoy a game the most, I give it the highest rating.
>so you're functionally disabled then.
So you resort to insults, when you realize you can't present proof of your claim.
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>>184965259
>So you resort to insults, when you realize you can't present proof of your claim.
i resort to insults when i realize the person i'm arguing with is an inept, lazy fucktard lmao
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>>184965715
>make outlandish claim
>get asked for evidence
>YOU'RE LAZY AND STUPID!
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s_ is live
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>>184966102
i provided a general consensus. i don't need to prove that the earth rotates around the sun either, you can google that too.
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>that one autist who needs data and evidence to understand how to get out of bed in the morning
what's his issue?
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>>184966323
Forbid people from playing Japanese games.
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>that one anon who's so scared of confrontation he spouts bullshit
This sounds like subtweeting. Is this the based irrelevant tweets anon?
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>>184966506
You imply that a good average userscore proves the game has one of the best controls of all videogames. This is ridiculous. There are many reasons to like a game besides controls.
Your claim is so bizarre, I am convinced you either don't even believe it yourself or you actually haven't played any other game in years.
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>the claim that SM64 has good controls is bizarre
Sometimes I wonder if the people here actually believe the shit they say. I mean, they're clearly baiting. But they're really good at putting on the stupid internet asshole persona.
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>the claim that SM64 has the best controls of any game
Brainwashed retards who don't play games actually believe this. Let that sink in.
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Which neurological disorder causes people to struggle with the controls in this game?
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The Missing Posts Conundrum
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SM64 was an experiment in 3D gaming. I can appreciate it for being an important step in the evolution of videogames, but its controls compare to modern game controls like the Wright borther's experimental aricrafts compare to a Boeing 737.
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Super Mario 64 has yet to be surpassed. You'd think they would take that formula and build on it, but every 3D Mario since has been watered down with less movement options. This is not up for debate.
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Which neurological disorder causes people to think that SMS doesn't have better controls?
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>>>/mariogen/
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>>184967874
I see that the angles are still off after grinding this single star for hundreds of hours. But I won't blame the player for that, he is fighting the controls more than anything else.
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>>184968239
>lower skill cieling
>no depth or momentum to the movement, it's just stop or go
>fludd
>30 minutes of gameplay in a 1:14 run
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>>184968239
Who even is this? He completely fucks up at the end.
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>>184968239
>Removed long jumps
>Removed jump kicks
>Add spinning jumps so you can get triple jump/turning jump height without any tradeoff
>0 momentum
>fludd as a crutch so you never have to be fully committed to a jump

Unbelievable.
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>>184968316
t. high 1:10
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>>184966323
why did you delete?
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>>184968316
>the angles aren't literally TAS perfect therefore the controls are bad
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>>184967964
His name is "Glenn".
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>>184969118
It's a Glenn and Randy tag team
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>>184969118
thanks for the late response!
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>>184969179
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>>184968393
>>lower skill cieling
LMAO
>>no depth or momentum to the movement, it's just stop or go
Yeah, that's why you can't control the speed of your slide, backflip or spinjump, right?
>>fludd
Are you a hothead?
>>30 minutes of gameplay in a 1:14 run
Probably the best serg meme, keep it up!

>>184968624
Long jumps were removed because that's irrelevant when you can just hover+water slide now. Jump kicks are removed because why the fuck do you need kicking or punching in a mario game? It's the series that established that you need to jump on enemies to kill them.
>fludd as a crutch so you never have to be fully committed to a jump
Then just don't use it? That's like me saying that Dive Recover in SM64 means you don't have to be committed to a Dive.
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>>184969232
>Jump kicks are removed because why the fuck do you need kicking or punching in a mario game?
that's funny because i don't remember needing meme water squirtguns in mario games before either
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>>184969179
>Randy tag team
>not the randal orton pic
come on now
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>>184969380
Because the game's gimmick is focused on you cleaning everything due to the story. Punches and kicks have nothing to do with SM64's gimmick, of which it has none.
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>>184969232
>LMAO
Not an argument.

>Yeah, that's why you can't control the speed of your slide, backflip or spinjump, right?
That is not movement momentum.

>Are you a hothead?
Not an argument.

>Probably the best serg meme, keep it up!
It is not a meme, it's a fact.
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>>184969504
>Punches and kicks have nothing to do with SM64's gimmick
>additional methods of control have nothing to do with the transition to 3d.
lmao
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>>184969556
>Not an argument.
Not an argument.

>That is not movement momentum.
Except it is. The speed of your slide can run out and it's dependent on what you start with.

>Not an argument.
Not an argument, and neither is >fludd.

>It is not a meme, it's a fact.
Stated like a true meme worshipper.

>>184969656
Okay, then I can just say that
>additional methods of control have nothing to do with the transition to the Gamecube
See? It makes no sense.
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no really, make a mariogen already
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>>184969884
Super Mario 64 is unironically the only game you can have discussion about as every other game lacks the depth. Deal with it.
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>>184969759
>Okay, then I can just say that additional methods of control have nothing to do with the transition to the Gamecube
>See? It makes no sense.
You're the one who made the argument because Mario has never had punching or kicking before, he doesn't need it now.

If you're going to say that additional methods of control are a bad thing, at least stay consistent. Every single main series Mario game has added something new to his moveset.
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>>184970094
>You're the one who made the argument because Mario has never had punching or kicking before, he doesn't need it now.
Because it's literally redundant. Why would you punch an enemy when you can just jump on them, an option that keeps you moving?

>If you're going to say that additional methods of control are a bad thing, at least stay consistent. Every single main series Mario game has added something new to his moveset.
Yes, and notice how none of the 3D ones after had punching?
>>
please

please

shut

the fuck up

thanks
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>>184970661
Okay.
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>>184970503
>Why would you punch an enemy when you can just jump on them

>*jumps on a spindrift*
>*goes flying 25 feet in the air and spins around uncontrollably*
>wow, if only there were another way to attack them.

>*jumps onto a pokey*
>*takes damage*
>why is this enemy immortal? if only he could be punched, or perhaps kicked, ths wouldn't be an issue.
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>>184970503
>notice how none of the 3D ones after had punching?
Galaxy has spinning, which is as much a melee attack as kicking or punching ever was.
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>>184970741
who are you quoting?
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>>184970741
>>*jumps on a spindrift*
>>*goes flying 25 feet in the air and spins around uncontrollably*
not only are they aerial enemies, but you can control your descent you retard
have you played the game?

>*jumps onto a pokey*
>*takes damage*
you can fucking ground pound their heads
you seriously haven't played the game have you
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>>184970860
>Galaxy has spinning,
Which has loads of more purposes than just being a melee attack. You can easily call it a secondary function, since one of the main gimmicks was using your wiimote (since it's a wii game and every wii game needed some sort of motion bullshit) to fire star bits to stun enemies so you can run into and kill them.
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>>184969884
>>184969585
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>*fights hand boss in SSL*
>why isn't he taking damage? why is there no mechanic here that lets me do damage to him?

>*tries to solve bookshelf puzzle in BBH*
>how do i do this? why isn't it working?
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>>184970910
>spindrifts are aerial enemies
pretty sure it's you who hasn't played the game, actually lmao
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>>184970910
>you can fucking ground pound their heads
okay, so why is ground pounding not the redundant attack then? why specifically punching and kicking?

is it because Sunshine has ground pounding and you wouldn't dare insult anything Sunshine included?
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this thread fuckin sucks
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be the change on you want to see in the thread
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>>184971513
A groundpound is a jumping-based move.
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>>184971153
>Which has loads of more purposes than just being a melee attack.
Punching can grab and also throw in SM64. If you include speed variables, it can become a dive as well.
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more like change your diaper
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>>184971725
*transitions*
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>>184971764
so is jump kicking lmao
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>>184971337
ah yes clearly these two small examples prove that punching was a much needed gimmick

>>184971423
my bad, but it's still correct in that you can control your descent

>>184971513
>so why is ground pounding not the redundant attack then?
because ground pounding serves more purpose than just an attack--you use it to activate switches, stop your momentum, break a fall, etc etc
it's also been in more games than punching has (it's even in the 2D ones) before Sunshine, so i'm not sure where you're going with that
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>>184971780
>Punching can grab and also throw in SM64.
It doesn't "also throw", that's just what you're meant to do when you're holding something and you press the B button.
>If you include speed variables,
What the hell are you talking about? That's like if I said that since B can pick up items in Sunshine, picking up items can become a dive if you're running, or vice versa if you're standing still. It's a function of the button, not the move.
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>>184971861
A jumpkick is a kick while jumping. You can kick while standing on the ground.
You can't groundpound while standing on the ground.
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>>184971942
>my bad
Just shut the fuck up lmao.
>activate switches
>break a fall
Yeah, imagine if kicking could do that. Oh wait...
>it's even in the 2D ones
It's in Yoshi's Island, which is hardly a mario game. Would you have been okay with egg throwing if they added that to SM64 too?
>>184972214
>You can kick while standing on the ground.
Only at the end of a slow combo. Jumping is the only way you can kick without needing to punch first. Buffered kicking is just an exploit of the jump mechanic, because you can literally chain it into a double jump.
>You can't groundpound while standing on the ground.
you can ground pound by pressing A+Z on the same frame, which leaves the ground exactly as much as buffered kicking does.
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take it there already >>184969585
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>>184972176
>It doesn't "also throw", that's just what you're meant to do when you're holding something and you press the B button.
You are required to punch first to even enter the state that enables you to throw something. It's a part of the punch mechanic.
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>>184972469
>Yeah, imagine if kicking could do that. Oh wait...
except you don't activate blue switches by kicking, are you retarded? you still take fall damage if you kick in the air, stop posting

>It's in Yoshi's Island, which is hardly a mario game.
man you're retarded, it's in the New Super Mario bros games as well and if you try to say "b-but they're 3D modeled" i'll end you
p.s. if you really want to be an asshole you can say it's in SMB3 thanks to bowser
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>>184971764
Ok, so let's get this straight.

According to you, mechanics are only allowed to be in Mario games if they're A) part of the jump mechanic or B) a familiar part of the franchise already.

Is this correct?
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>>184972839
>You are required to punch first to even enter the state that enables you to throw something.
Except you're not, because you can pick things up from a dive. It's not a part of the punch mechanic, it's just what you do when you hold something.

>>184972469
>which leaves the ground
So you can't do it ON the ground.
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>>184973183
>except you don't activate blue switches by kicking
Right, nobody said a god damn thing about blue switches.
>you still take fall damage if you kick in the air
No you don't. If you kick right before you hit the ground, you take no fall damage, just like with ground pounds. It is hysterical how you continue to out yourself as having never played the game.
>it's in the New Super Mario bros games as well
Yeah, and it's in Sunshine too, which is why you're defending it.
>>184973327
>So you can't do it ON the ground.
You cannot jump kick on the ground either.
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fuck off
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>>184973327
>because you can pick things up from a dive
If you pick up a bomb from a dive, it explodes much more quickly, and you have much less time to throw it.

Yet another advantageous use of the punch mechanic.
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>*tries to jump on a bob-omb*
>omg why isn't this working?
>if only i could punch it or perhaps kick it into another enemy
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>>184973870
you can quit debating yourself
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>>184973664
>Right, nobody said a god damn thing about blue switches.
blue switches are switches too, nice work there buddy
>Yeah, and it's in Sunshine too, which is why you're defending it.
you're becoming extremely paranoid about this
it's in mario party too, i guess i'm saying mario party is better than 64 as well, right?
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>*tries to jump onto bowser's tail*
>WTF????
>how am i supposed to grab his tail???
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>>184973870
Nice work shifting goalposts. Are you a professional?

>>184974060
You can also pick them up and throw them.
Seriously, what enemy can you not kill by either throwing, jumping, or ground pounding them?

>>184974387
Once again, a part of a grab and not due to a punch. You don't punch his butt to send him into the bombs.
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no one cares
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>>184974465
The grab mechanic is literally the punch mechanic. You have to punch to throw things.

Just like you have to spin to do a melee attack in Galaxy.

Punching has multiple uses, just like spin attacks, which was the argument.
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This is the best /srg/ has ever been.
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>>184974619
>You have to punch to throw things.
to grab things*
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why doesnt r/sat realize goose is actually pretty based?
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remember when a bully punched you in school and the fist magically instantly stopped upon contact and he grabbed and threw you instead?
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>>184974465
>Seriously, what enemy can you not kill by either throwing, jumping, or ground pounding them?
Eyerok in SSL. Also, punching has a different effect on numerous enemies than jumping on or ground pounding them, as was already spelled out to you like a child.
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>>184974619
>The grab mechanic is literally the punch mechanic.
Except it isn't, because you can enter a grab state through other means--like diving, which is obviously not the punching mechanic.
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Why does everyone hate Goose again? Because he called you all degenerates?
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>>184974670
thats not 2013 and further back
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>>184974827
>diving into a bomb has the same effect as punching a domb
You've never played the game.
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>>184974876
I know?
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>*wants to kill an enemy quickly without wasting time on jumping or ground pounding and without fly past it with a dive*
>hmm, if only there was some way this could be accomplished.
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>>184974859
>Stop being degenerates!
>*goes on Tinder BDSM dates*
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>*tries to grab king bob-omb by diving into him*
>god i must be retarded, i can't figure out how this works!
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>zfg with 1000 viewers
>chat can go 20 seconds without a new message
really makes you think
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>>184974859
He puts on this pathetic alpha male persona to blatantly hide how weak and beta he is himself and he runs a shit game and acts like an above it all twat instead of just a normal, down to earth person.
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>>184974813
>Eyerok in SSL.
So one boss? That's it?
>Also, punching has a different effect on numerous enemies than jumping on or ground pounding them,
Which is rendered irrelevant due to your other means of interaction. Do you know why I made note of punching not being in other games since? Because it didn't really serve a purpose your other moves didn't do already.

>>184974878
>>diving into a bomb has the same effect as punching a domb
Nice goalpost shifting, yet again. You can just pick up and throw a bomb. Once again, rendered irrelevant through your other options.

>>184975071
>wasting time on jumping
Wasting time on jumping? How on earth is jumping more of a waste of time than punching when you have to stay still while punching?
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enough roleplaying
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>>184975208
>So one boss? That's it?
Try fighting king bob-omb without using the punch mechanic.
>You can just pick up and throw a bomb.
Which requires punching if you want to hold the bomb for a longer period of time. If you dive into a bomb, your movement is delayed, and it explodes before you can move much with it.
>Wasting time on jumping?
Jumping on an enemies, most notably spindrifts, is faster than jumping on them. That's why speedrunners often punch enemies instead of jumping on them.

You haven't played the game.
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>>184975550
>Jumping on an enemies, most notably spindrifts, is faster than jumping on them.
Punching enemies*
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What is this haircut called?
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>>184975550
go masturbate with this shit somewhere else already
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>>184975662
the incomplete nosferatu
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>>184976067
lmfao
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>>184788053
We never got to live in the Muslim Cosmo timeline. :^(
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>>184976305
who is we?
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>denying that punch has numerous uses in SM64
Imagine reaching this hard to convince yourself that it's a redundant move.
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more like noseferatu
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>>184975550
>Try fighting king bob-omb without using the punch mechanic.
Once again, you grab him. It isn't a function of the punch mechanic by any means.

>Which requires punching if you want to hold the bomb for a longer period of time. If you dive into a bomb, your movement is delayed, and it explodes before you can move much with it.
And this still demonstrates that you can hold a bomb using a dive. They may have different results, yes, but this is a result of the state you enter the grab in and the recovery frames of the dive.
I don't know how you're unable to see this, but this was to demonstrate that punching and grabbing are not essentially linked. You can punch a goomba (once again, rendered irrelevant by you just jumping on it), but that doesn't mean you automatically grab it.

>Jumping on an enemies, most notably spindrifts, is faster than jumping on them.
An exception but not the rule. Go on.

>You haven't played the game.
Keep trying.
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>>184976443
lmfao
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I just dropped SO much knowledge in that thread today! Those nerds never saw it comin
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>>184976491
is this a persona 5 reference???
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Guess who's at it again. This time he added an extra 60 minutes to fuck up even more..
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>>184976664
The run finished under estimate.
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>>184976459
>you grab him
How can you grab him without punching?
>They may have different results, yes
Correct, just like spinning in Galaxy, which was the argument.
>that doesn't mean you automatically grab it.
because punching a goomba has a different effect than punching a bomb.
>An exception but not the rule.
No, punching an enemy is almost always faster than ground pounding it. Ground pounding being faster is the exceptions.
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>>184976664
>pokethon
>managed by their community
>letting him run
what were they thinking
>>184976774
>finished
yeah just like hurtin with fire emblem
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sunshine is a shitty meme game and that guy arguing about punching and kicking being "bad" somethow is literally the dumbest faggot i've ever witnessed on the internet lmao
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>>184973214
>Ok, so let's get this straight.
>According to you, mechanics are only allowed to be in Mario games if they're A) part of the jump mechanic or B) a familiar part of the franchise already.
>Is this correct?
why has noone answered this yet?
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>>184976915
>How can you grab him without punching?
You grab him by pressing B. Once again, not a function of the punch mechanic.

>>184976915
>which was the argument.
No, the argument was about grab states. We can discuss the finer points of spinning after this, because you seem to not understand this.

>No, punching an enemy is almost always faster than ground pounding it. Ground pounding being faster is the exceptions.
...Just like this. I said jumping, not ground pounding.

>because punching a goomba has a different effect than punching a bomb.
Right, because you can't grab a goomba. You can grab a bomb just fine.

>>184977190
>punching and kicking being "bad"
The argument is that they're rendered irrelevant by your other options--which is why they weren't in any other 3D games since. You're free to actually provide an argument, though.
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>>184977372
fuck off already
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>>184977332
because nobody cares about your shit game
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*creates pretend argument with self using two computers so I can pretend to make the thread better*
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>>184977573
>pretend argument
word, sunshine is better anyways
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what are the best speedgames on THIS bad boy
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imagine spending your friday night this way
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imagine spending your friday night on /srg/ instead of speedrunning
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>>184977780
thankfully I don't have to, whew dodged that bullet!
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*speedruns to the fridge*
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>>184977372
>You grab him by pressing B.
Okay, show me how you press B to grab King Bob-Omb without punching. Then you can contact Pannenkoek and he can make a video about your incredibly new discovery.
>No, the argument was about grab states.
Your claim was that spinning has multiple uses in Galaxy, but that punching in SM64 does not. The latter is false, and you are either a liar or delusional.
>I said jumping
Jumping on enemies even less utilized in a speedrun than ground pounding. It's literally the slowest way to kill enemies.
>The argument is that they're rendered irrelevant by your other options
They are not. Punching enemies is more often than not the fastest way to kill an enemy. This makes it more useful than other forms of attack. It is also useful to do several other things, like hitting switches and grabs. And this is just punching. Kicks have even more uses than punching.
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>>184977698
sotn, megamemeX4-6, crashro
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>>184977698
Starts with an "M" and rhymes with "Deadevil".
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shouldn't you be getting a new twitter robbie
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>>184978305
>sotn

uhh sweety thats an xbox 360 game
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>>184978205
Why doesn't Mario have a gun or a nuke? That would be even faster than punching. Because it's not fitting a Mario game.
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>>184979314
>it's not fitting a Mario game.
Neither are stupid gay squirt guns.
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>>184979394
owned
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>>184979394
I wanna lick Peach's squirt gun.
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>>184978205
>Okay, show me how you press B to grab King Bob-Omb without punching.
Punching is a byproduct of pressing B: the real thing that matters is the grab state. Did you notice how you can grab Bowswer's tail by diving into him and grabbing his tail like that? Now what if punching was removed and you just had a button that put you into this grab state--like Sunshine--or you didn't even need to be in the grab state for a majority of the game--like Galaxy? It would be irrelevant. This is what I've been getting at.

>Jumping on enemies even less utilized in a speedrun than ground pounding. It's literally the slowest way to kill enemies.
No, it is not. Jumping allows you to kill an enemy and keep your momentum by bouncing off of them. Punching forces you to stop.
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>>184979314
>Mario gun
>not fitting
too late
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>>184979640
enough with debating yourself
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>>184979858
it's called masturdebating
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speedruns are gay
watch me jive instead srg
twitch/sillyusagi
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>>184979701
>who tf iz rayman
stop
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>>184979640
>Jumping allows you to kill an enemy and keep your momentum by bouncing off of them.
Which is used maybe 6 times in a 120 star run. Bouncing off the pirahna plant in WF, bouncing off the spider in WDW during 100/reds (this one doesn't even use the bounce most of the time), bouncing off of lakitu in RR, and killing the koopa in THI.

In THI 100 players will rollout onto the koopa and bounce off of him to kill him, but ironically enough there's a FASTER strat that involves punching him instead lmao.

You kill more enemies in SL alone with punches than you do with normal jumps throughout the entire game.
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>>184980404
seek a clinic
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>>184980404
>>184980404
>Which is used maybe 6 times in a 120 star run. Bouncing off the pirahna plant in WF, bouncing off the spider in WDW during 100/reds (this one doesn't even use the bounce most of the time), bouncing off of lakitu in RR, and killing the koopa in THI.
...Killing the bullies when they group up in LLL, bouncing off the bug underneath the coin block for 100 coin star in BBH, as a backup in SSL, (for starters, i'm not going to list everything for you). Hell, you even jump off of a Spindrift to get elevation.
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>>184981236
Call a doctor.
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>>184981431
this one?
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>>184980404
Wait, what does this have to do with SM64 having the best controls of any videogame, past, present or future?
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>>184982457
it has everything to do with you shutting the FUCK up
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>>184982618
GOT EM
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>>184981236
>Killing the bullies when they group up in LLL
Okay, so that's 7
>bouncing off the bug underneath the coin block for 100 coin star in BBH
This star also has literally 3 enemy kills with punches, but you're right. That makes 8.
>as a backup in SSL
You could punch those if you wanted too, and it might even be faster.
>Hell, you even jump off of a Spindrift to get elevation.
No you don't. You do bounce off a a flyguy in SSL, though, so that makes 9.

I'll concede that there are maybe more jump kills than ground pound kills. Punch kills still win out.
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>>184983114
holy shit dude go away
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>>184983114
>This star also has literally 3 enemy kills with punches
4 if you punch the first scuttlebug, actually, but whether that's faster or not depends on rng i think
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>>184977372
who is we?
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>>184983114
>I'll concede
finally
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>>184983340
thanks for the late response!
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>>184983368
yeah jesus christ only took like 3 fuckin hours
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SM64 has bad controls. This fabricated debate about punches and groundpounds exists only to distract from this fact.
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*falseflags*
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>>184984967
Word.
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>>184984967
>>184986430
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>>184986776
>>184985156
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>>184977347
>>184983075
why did you delete?
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>>184976664
He got WR recently.
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>>184988896
thanks for the late response!
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>>184975662
mental illness
>>
new thread when?
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>>184989380
>he didn't get the dm with the details for the new discord channel we're replacing this general with
lmao
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>>184990812
who is we?
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>>184991654
>>184991654
>>184991654
ugh
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>>184991672
why was it deleted lmao
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dont tell me /srg/ is going the way of /sc2/ x_x
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