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7 cards will get nerfed tomorrow
https://shadowverse.com/news/?announce_id=336

Maintenance from 7:00 p.m., Jul 30 – 3:00 a.m., Jul 31 (PT). Details.
https://shadowverse.com/news/?announce_id=326

Leader poll results
https://twitter.com/shadowversegame/status/890134639402209281

New Grand Master rank
https://shadowverse.com/news/maintenance/news-0124

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Old >>184280197
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AND ROOST ISN'T EVEN OUT YET

CYGAMES KILL YOURSELVES STOP HURTING TIER 2 AND MEME DECKS
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>all the baphomet fun decks die for spawn's sins

i'm sad now
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>>184304117
I wish I had a modded client like this guy.

https://youtu.be/CM6x71cF3S4?t=231

>DRAGON INSTALL(Xrd DI theme starts playing)
>DOWA DOWA DOWA DOWA
>VOCANIC VIPAH
>that thing that plays every time he plays Bahamut
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Soon
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Bow down to your new, panty-flashing, overlord.
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Reminder
Haven is chemo so it shouldnt get nerfed.
Anyone disagreeing with this should be called a shadownigger on sight.
Haven counters shouldnt exist
Mass report and hide everyone replying with self reported 'facts', its all lies
Praise haven
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>>184306332
>This one shadow nigger making early threads
Fuck off already, newfag.
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>>184306571
that's a cute boy
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>>184306616
It wasn't me this time.
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This is Aegis.
>after nerfs Have will have positive winrate against Blood
>65%+- winrate against dragon
But muh shadowniggers and Dshift amrite?
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>>184306571
flat butt
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>>184306332
Fuck off Discord
pathetic
not funny
Know the contrast?
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concede please

19811
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>>184301173
>all these free vials
>but still no reason to play this kusoge
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>>184306667
>47% against forest
FUCKING NERF FOREST DELETE ROACH B&B IS STRONG AS FUCK
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So in total 4 ToG cards that were in every ToG Dragoncraft deck are target for nerfs.
Why do they even bother to create expansions if they trash all the cards that have usage?
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>>184306667
>negative against 3 crafts
>got nerfed
>has a hard counter
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>>184306732
thank you ouroboros!
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>>184306787
And the tier 0 and tier 1 decks aren't...
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>>184306814
>negative against 3 crafts
Negative against Dshift and perfect curve Roach
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>shadowniggers get it their way once again
>haven nerfed
>STILL shitpost haven into oblivion
Why are they so autistic?
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>>184306814
>has a hard counter
There are 2/3pp amulet banishment spells/followers?
Please do tell.
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>Neutral Blood was T1 for 1 month
>Silver enabler Baphomet gets nerfed
>Legendary Spawn gets nerfed
>Even a fucking Bronze Tove gets nerfed

>Shadow was T1 for 3 months
>Only Silver enabler Skeleton Prince and Gold wincon-B gets nerfed
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RiP Ourobro
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>>184306909
Blood was T0 for a month that's why it got nerfed
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>>184306909
Stop that Cygames. You don't fool us. Shadow and Blood aren't even meant to be nerfed but it'd be too much of a dick.
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>>184306904
>haven nerfed
>once
muh shadowniggers
muh chemo honestcraft
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>>184306976
caring him to mordecai now is the saddest shit
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>>184306909
>3 t1 decks
>vs 1 t1 deck
Golly its chilly here!
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IM NOT SATISFIED UNTIL BLOOD IS LOCKED IN TIER 4 NERF MORE CARD REEEE KILL BKB SABOTEUR ORB DRAGON
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>>184306571
I want to sniff this ass.
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>>184306907
>he still doesn't know what a Control deck's hard counter is
>he is still crying about a 38% winrate garbage deck like Elana that nobody plays besides A ranks
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>>184307038
Yes im sure the designated countercraft exclusively complains about shadow. And not the other way around.
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>>184307109
>Elana that nobody plays besides A ranks
hello A rank
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This GM grind is stupid. I was at 3 wins away, now I'm at 5. Just let me have it already.
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muh shitty Soul Dealer + Mary deck

FUCK YOU SHITGAMES FOR KILLING BAPH
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>>184307048
comparing**
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Bow to your Queen
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With these changes, is there any reason at all to keep Ouroboros and Snow White? They seem unplayable.
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Inb4 the nerfs actually raise Blood's winrate like the Shadow and Dragon "nerfs" did
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Are you ready for HAVEN meta?
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>>184307238
Nah, I'm waiting for her mum. I got all the tickets to grind arena with.
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>>184307238
>shadowniggers think they have the right to make funny XD posts
This is why nobody likes you.
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Reaper and test of strength are the only cards that were nerf this month right?
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>>184307278
Just liquefy them. You can always craft them back
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>>184307326
Why is cerb so popular?
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>haven
>t2 craft since RoB
>gets nerfed once and it's a legend
>shadow
>cancer craft for 3 entire months and soon rampant cancer again
>gets scapegoat nerfed twice
wew lad
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>they seriously didn't nerf alice
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>>184306629

She's a cute boy (female) and I would like to suck her dick.
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>>184307306
KYS blood won't be good with Rune around while neutral is literally neutered.
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>>184307306
Spawn Neutral Blood is not even playable anymore.
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>>184307105
>18 years old is adult everywhere in the world
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>>184307402
can't nerf the goblin slut, she's the face of the expansion
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>>184307108
>I want to sniff this ass.

I want .to wedge my head between her thighs.
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>>184307385
stinky butt
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>>184307336
I'm gonna use my 3 animated Eachtars for the next month and you can't stop me
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>>184307402
>I'll be contrary to what /svg/ says
>also fuck dragoncuck sybil
broken XD you'll see
Summed it up
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>>184304117
This guys entire channel man, what a memelord holy fuck.
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>>184307385
Cute doggo
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>>184307487
"her" dick is bigger than yours.
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>>184307513
Not him, but I'm sure jelly. I cannot even unpack his emblem yet.
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>>184307513
Rune
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>>184307278
Ouroboros could still be played as a one-of. Snow White is dead.
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>Open 10 wd packs after waiting for private lobby matches over 3 hours
>no spawns or snow whites for free leggos

reeeeeeeeeeee
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>>184307487
>her
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>>184307385
>Why is cerb so popular?

Because she's perfectly designed for both breeding and lovemaking.
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>>184307385
Secondaries.
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>>184307619
oh, you cropped this fucking disaster of a picture
Good for you
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>>184307592
>Snow White is dead
This is pure lie
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>last expansion dragon cards get nerfed
Haha wow
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>>184307572
>>184307595

Like I said, cute boy (female). Would suck her dick/10 (pic unrelated)
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i want to rub dicks with cerberus
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>>184307675

I just removed the ugly part (pic related)
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>>184307676
>stuck in bieng a 2PP goblin
>cannot kill a 2-drop and survive
Might as well be dead, son.
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>>184307749
good work
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>>184307592
why play ouroboro when you can just play fortress crab instead
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>>184307728
I don't like girls because girls like dicks and that's gay af.
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>>184307592
>play Ouroboros when you can just play Rune
Golem do the same as Ouro but better. Young/Levi does it too. Just try to drop Ouro against today's decks.
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>>184307389
>dragon
>tier 1 for 2 months
>gets 2 of their important cards deleted
>2 months later cygames shits on it's corpse and nerfs 2 of their good cards left to profit off epic prebuilts
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>>184307385
Because literal semen demon. Too bad Charon didn't win.
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>>184307749
this arist is shit
and Forte is a cutie
fuck off
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How many hours until the season ends
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>ouroboros is literally 8PP demonic strike now
See? You guys really jinxed it with your meme.
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>>184308041
Always the victim complex Shadowniggers.
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I just realized I made a horrible mistake. I liquefied my ouroborsses. Apparently it was too early. Is there a way to get the shit back?
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>>184308105
>bought seer's globe for her you piece of shit dev.
Lmaoing at this dogfucker.
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>>184308121
haha, no
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>>184308105
because leddit
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What is is average age of /svg/ poster? 18?
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>>184308105
Because Cygames listen do Reddit and Discord lelduch. You don't get it yet? They're HERE.
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>>184308105
Probably because KMR is not happy his early board gets fucked by a flat chest.
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>>184308105
I have 2 animated ouro which is more fucking depressing because it's getting nerfed
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>>184307829
That reminds me..
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>alice not nerfed
>eachtar not nerfed
I know what I'm playing after the patch.
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>thinking Shadow is going to be a thing again

Haha.
Good joke.
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>>184308176
to
dumb squares
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>>184306767
i could make so many legendaries
but of what? a-alice? I already have 3
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>>184308215
fugg

My only weakness.
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>people are replying to the avatarcancer
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>>184308161
Guess I'll play dshift from tomorrow on then
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>>184308121
i'm sorry for you're loss
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>>184308215
sauce?
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>>184308236
They're also forgetting daria and haven, they really hard counter shadow after the reaper nerf.
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>>184308236
Reach Master, before talking, learn about the cards and only then come back.
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Guys, you know there was once a legendary card called Maelstrom Serpent?
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>>184308204
>globing a legend everyone thought was safe
>get fucked for no reason
Nothing is sacred anymore. They will do anything to appease shadowniggers.
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>>184308193
Snow White isn't flat
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>mfw update tonight
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>>184308193
His waifu is flat.
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>>184308105
Fuck off you avatarfagging retard.
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>>184308354
>"They're also forgetting"
Haha no. Kikegames is doing it to crafts like Dragon on purpose because they don't like it. Everything is a excuse.
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>>184308354
Haven can't counter shadow. Don't spread misinformation, shadownigger
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Snow white nerf was fully justified. a 2pp 2/3 is gamebreaking as it is, the ability to double trade in the same turn and survive, as well as enable rahab dogs, was beyond overkill. There's no way to counterplay around it besides, of course, another haven card

It's still super overvalued but I'm sure victim complex hags will bitch anyway
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>>184308468
If it doesn't counter shadow, then why do hagfags deflect everytime someone complains about haven? :^)
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>>184308443
It's still 18 hours away.
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>>184308354
Daria is dead.
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>>184308105
Because blood is getting nerfed which means dragoncraft might be powerful and since they also nerf dragoncraft they are making sure that havencraft won't get too strong. That's their official reason.
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so, what's the new hot deck now? dirt rune?
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Been away from the game since totg, and played Rune since launch before that - are there any real control decks yet?
I heard Sword actually has a control variant, which could be interesting.
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Cygames pretends to not see the big picture.
I hate these mean faggots.
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>>184308545
Every non-neutral unga deck is.
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>>184308484
>Snow white nerf was fully justified.
Shadownigger
>>184308525
Because only B0 bitching about Haven.
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>>184308484
a big reason why it makes sense is that if you nerf tove like you should she'd become the uncontested 2drop, and establishing a board with this much safeness and solidity leads to too big of an advantage
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I think Snow White and Ouroboros nerf are uncalled for
t. GM Shadow player
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>wake up
>massive nerf wave
>Eachtar and Alice didn't get touched
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So how exactly is Dragon supposed to be able to have a >30% winrate against shadow again?
Going after Ouro but leaving Kektar alone, unbelievable.
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>>184308604
Dragon, Haven
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>>184308564
Stop being retarded. That itself is missinformation and self-contradictory. They did it because they are faggots like that tripfag.
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>>184307962

Tits are way too big in the picture. Shorte is best forte.
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>>184308631
See? Haven players can't form a coherent argument that isn't namecalling or deflection
It's like they're all underaged
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>>184307962
I want to save this because her muscle looks nice but I don't want to because her panties are visible.
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>>184308726

Don't worry bro, I'm sure everything will be fine and we won't get another month of "SHADOW"verse.
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>>184308484
>There's no way to counterplay around it besides, of course, another haven card
Dirt can also banish her with Price of Magic, idiot.
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>>184308727
Shadow is just hard counter for Dragon. Deal with it.
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>>184308791
fuck your rarity shit, that doesn't matter
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>>184308545
it'll be played again if shadow gets popular enough
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>>184308791
She's still gonna be a 3x in every Haven deck post nerf and you goddamn well know it.
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Time to warm up, shadowbros!
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>>184308834
So is Rune, Roland, Roach, Blood, the deck itself
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>>184308646
Snow white was fully justified, it was insane value and would have destroyed a meta without goblin leader

Ouro was probably unnecessary considering the wholly justified grimnir nerf, but hey free vials
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>>184308892
>>184308868
Stop replying to him, brain damaged inbreds
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>>184308726
>no new ID
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>>184308868
>>184308892
>replying to the avatarfag
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>>184308817
This. They nerfed dragon we should be super happy!!!!
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>>184308745
>That's their official reason
Maybe you should stop being retarded. They gave out an official statement and that was it. No matter what their true intentions are, their official reason was posted by them.
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>>184308646
Replace Ouro by Baph.
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We need more nerfs
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>>184308904
Back to /gbfg/ underaged shitter
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>>184308830
Price of magic is unplayable trash on the level of gingerbread house

Oh but it can also be countered with odin so it's balanced!
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>>184308791
>cards should be allowed to stay untouched because they're shiny and special

are you stupid?
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>>184308905
>Rune, Roland, Roach, Blood
wut
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>>184308791
nigga the nerf was literally "it's fucking nothing" tier and you fucking know it.

Snow White never did anything meaningful and rarely actually survived with that extra 1 health. 99% of the reason she was played was because she enabled ez winged doggo activation while being able to take out a x/3 and that's literally it.
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>>184309000
Gingerbread House is core on Dreadshift, which is tier 0.
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>>184308914
Tfw you never thought Ouro would get nerfed so youve vialed like 4 extras. Cygames i fucking hate you.
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>>184308892
>Snow White is still going to be 3x after nerf
Not when she has to use 2 lives to deal with a 2-drop.
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>>184309038
what is your obsession with this forced meme
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>>184307447
It is, dumb anime poster
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>>184308964
Their true intentions are memes. We hate bad memes.
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>>184309030
>>184309017
>are you stupid?
He is, but so are you for replying to him.
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>>184309000
If the current iteration of mid shadow takes off which uses lurching corpse and attendant then the card will be playable in control dirt again. There's a difference between an unplayable card and a tech card, idiot.
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>>184308484
Only getting one attack after evolve makes no sense though. Then again almost all of those nerfs really feels shoehorned at last minute by incompetent idiots.
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So BurnDirtRune can stop Luna? Can i have a list?
Doesn't matter if it actually doesn't stop Luna, i want to play my old husbando levi again
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>>184309130
keep us updated
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>>184309072
Well now, blood only has option to go UNGA now. So you cant trade it into blood wolf and other 2 drop. i feel like the whole baph nerf is really driving blood into corner deckwise.
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>>184309090
You're big guy. Don't forget to do homework
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>>184309130
>Don't bother. I've already uninstalled and sent a complaint to refund my $80. If not, I'll send my lawyers to fight for it. I don't give a fuck how long, I'm gonna get my money back.

Nice bait. 10/10
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>>184309130
>/lolg/
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>>184309025
All shit on Dragon if played correctly or properly D0 shitter.
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>cygames games is dying
>they think nerfing cards left to right can fix it but in reality there just kicking a dead horse
>>184309130
post your refund if you have the chance
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>>184309130
>haha you guys I'm just pretending xDD
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>>184309176

Nothing can stop Luna now. KMR made sure of it.
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>>184309130
Good riddance you cancerous piece of shit
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>>184309176
the same dirt list ppl have been playing all month
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>>184309210
gotta get those standards up
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>>184309030
>>Snow White never did anything meaningful and rarely actually survived with that extra 1 health.
That's a lie, she used to absolutely cement early board.

You dropped 2/2? Too bad, it's dead.
3/2 as a follow up? Dead as well.
You warded your 2/2 with grimnir? Grimnir is dead and i can still trade with 2/2 and proc dogs this very moment.

Unless you had a very specific hand composition she was an utter bitch to deal with, that extra one hp was utter bullshit in early game.

Now she just procs dogs and doubletrades/trades upwards which is pretty good deal for a 2pp.


Literally the only reason not to plug it into every haven's deck is budget
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>>184309176
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>>184309256
Everyone is eating it up like a good goy.
>whoa bro look at those undeserved nerfs to dragon we can now get extra vials with the prebuilt thanks cygames
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C-c-can blood become honestcraft again now?
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>>184309231
How about this. You pick Dirt Rune, I pick Ramp Dragon. We play 2 games with stream.
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>>184309176
fuck off
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>>184309412
I hope I can play control blood.
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>>184308443
Real image of a dragon player being outplayed by shadow, circa August 2017
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After nerf tier ranking
Tier 1: Blood, Shadow
Tier 2: Rune, Haven
Tier 3: Dragon, Sword, Forest
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>>184309231
>Roland
>shit on Dragon
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>>184309416
I could play Daria just for you gaylord. Fucking retard.
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>>184309436
>killing spawn instead of baphomet
nah, it could be good but cycucks had to fuck everything up
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>>184309256
>>cygames games is dying
???

Just because shadowverse is dying off doesn't mean cygames is doing bad.
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>>184309312
Why doesn't she wear shoes?
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>>184308156
whats the lore behind calling her a dogfucker
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>>184309490
so, dragon swaps places with shadow and that's it
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I'm 500 away from GM and have no net movement after an hour.
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>>184309535
>being buttmad
As expected from underage D0 trash
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>>184309490
>Blood
???
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>>184309514
Drop Frontguard and DON
Magic
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>>184309564
She makes dogs erect.
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>>184309564
Because she enables Heavenly hound i would assume?
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How much could Cygames get away with charging for a Seer's Globe in crystals?
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>>184309205
Dumb ESL shitposter
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>>184309484
delete
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>>184309620
D rank?
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>>184309573
D rank?
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D rank?
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>>184309642
D rank?
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>>184309603
I said that I could not that I'll. Use your head, why would Rune counter Dragon? The answers are all obvious you can even netdeck it somewhere these days.
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>>184309637
thats what I thought but I was told that wasn't the reason why
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>>184309696
>>184309703
>>184309742
>>184309743
uhh
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>>184309361
I havn't played a single match in Woderland yet
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>>184309661
>18 years old kid thinks he's adult
>call other underage
Sure thing EOP.
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>>184309547
gbf is dying too with the neverending reruns, the hardest raid bosses being worthless and no legfest and magfest and also KMR literally burning money away with randomly sponsoring juventus (why) and making expensive horse girl racing game+anime that nobody wanted

KMR a is fucking madman and nobody cant stop him
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>>184309590
Spam games until you get a lucky winstreak. In my last day, I got +0 net gain in 2 hours until I got 2 winstreaks to GM. Gotta flip those coins man.
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>>184309774
D rank?
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Jesus, these nerfs really got the shitposters to come out of the fucking woodwork.
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>>184309805
yes?
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Neutral rune tier1 inc
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>Avatarfag so buttblasted he got banned he is now spamming weak memes on literally everyone in a desperate effort to get (you)s
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>so many failing the newfag check and replying to avatarfagging fuckface
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>>184309847
D rank?
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>>184309536
outside of snake/azazel memes control blood wasn't really running baph anyway. the nerf to baph is interesting because it can tutor you earlier cards now while still contesting their 2/2. the broader tutor might even be better for a pure control variant and allows them flexibility to build a deck that uses the saha package while tutoring out important curve cards to deal with the top cancer decks.
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>>184309785
18 year olds are legally adults in the whole (western) world, not sure what shithole you come from but kys
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>>184309780
you didn't miss much
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>leave the game for long periods of time but return later, like when I sleep or stop playing then come back
>suddenly all my games have perfect curves
>continue playing many many hours later
>draws start becoming more random
Anyone else notice a pattern like this? This happens all the time.
>>
So, is it still worth having Grimnir in your deck as a Haven?
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>>184309790
If they are literally burning money for no reason, they are far from dying.
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>>184309889
>kys
That's why 18 yo kids are cancer.
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>>184309870
You're an avatarfag yourself.
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>>184309484
So is LunaxRowen a real pairing?
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>>184309916
it's only made for people who play the game casually anon
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>>184309916
Yeah, but it happens pretty often to me, even when I play daily. I can start the day with like 5 or 6 win streak, then go onto 10 lose streak. When I lose 3 or 4 times in a row I know it's time to take a break.
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>>184309889
>adults in the whole (western) world
>can't drink alcohol
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>>184309942
>yo
mama
REKT
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>They are never going to nerf cards that'll be in prebuilds!
Sasuga svg, you were wrong yet again
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>>184309967
Rowen would never cheat on his soon-to-be wife Isabelle
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>>184308484
Snow white is fucking dead now though, like, there's zero reason to bother playing her anymore, the only card which got hit with the nerf stick but is still playable is Grimnir because he's still a 10 pp 2/3 ward with conflag stuck on him. Hope you like the return of Mid Shadow cancer in full force now that blood is neutered.
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>>184310024
t. Burger
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>>184309962
I'm not sure you know what the means mr. newfag
lurk moar
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>>184310024
only in freeland
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>>184309256
I'm about to submit another form to Better Business Bureau.

I can't let this slide.
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>>184310089
>lurk moar
I already do, that's how I recognize your shitty filenames everytime.
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>>184310024
America is a shithole, burger
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>>184308604
Mid Shadow.
>>184308607
Control Sword is garbage, always was, always will be. The closest you'll get to control is literally any haven variant.
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>>184310063
And yet they didn't nerf Aegis.
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>>184310131
BTFO
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Is the game saved?
>>
>>184310168
aegis is balanced
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>>184310160
Control Sword was decent against Spawn and Aegis.
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>>184310215
yes
thank you
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>>184310215
If you are a shadownigger, yes.
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>current year
>people still complain about 9 mana do nothing
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Wait a second. Am I too old (26) for this general?
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>>184310081
Nah, now she won't be able to survive trading against higher cost followers, like it should fucking be. She still is a sort of 3/4 for 2pp, a big deal. I feel this is a piercing rune tier of nerf, it deletes the most ridicolous part of the card while still keeping it strong enough to consider running 3x of it.
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>>184310221
>Havencraft decks that use Heavenly Aegis will become too powerful in comparison.
Maybe you should try to tell that to Cygames.
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>>184310308
Nah, no one will bother running her if she dies against the average 2 drop after suicide.
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>>184310131
i'm not gonna spoonfeed you, but that's not how avatarfagging working you retard
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>>184310342
yeah nah we all know cygames is retarded by now
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>>184310248
Why does his face look so stupid
I'm not trying to criticize his genetics, he always seems to have a very fat lower face and big puffy lips like that one Luna picture.
>>
If you still play this game shower urself my mane
>>
>>184310392
Right, I guess it's your special snowflake way of avatarfagging, 400 filter man.
>>
>there are people here who actually doubted KMR
You should be a shamed. After saving GBF, he's saving SV.
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>>184310392
Of course it's cancer. That chibi discord faggot as well.
>>
>>184310308
There's no point in running her over other 2 drops at this point though.

Her whole point was to kill off 2 drops and survive, or to kill off 2/3s and survive. Now she can do neither.
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>>184310398
Shadowlog is rigged too. This is fake >>184306667
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>>184310374
Why would you suicide her onto a 2 drop instead of going face and wait for the enemy to drop his 3 drop to kill it or make him waste resources to kill her off?
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>>184309551

Because swans don't wear shoes. The clothes are just her feathers.
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>>184310462
go google it or something
and stop replying to me with your nonsense you doublenigger
>>
Those nerfs, enjoy shadowverse shadowbabs.
>>
Anyone who complained about Snow White should kill themselves
>>
>>184310392
holy shit what's with all these fucking avatarfagging ESL children?
>>
>>184310609
Cyka blyat to you too, friend.
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>>184309884

Azazel OTK was not a meme and the Bapho nerf killed it.
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>>184308607
>>184310241
Control sword has no draw. If you don't draw a good curve, you'll lose.
>>
>Haven defense squad
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>>184310496
you need to go back
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>>184310624
>avatarfagging
i guess whole shadowverse cast is my avatar then
seriously newfags, stop embarrassing yourselves
Google before posting if you want to fit in so hard
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guys i think forest can at least get t2
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Post 'em. 2 spawns and 2 snows are not shown.
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>>184309490
Lol no. More like

Tier 1: Shadow
Tier 2: Rune, Haven, Blood, Sword , Forest
Pile of feces: Sword
>>
>>184310739
>post the same images all over again
>i-i'm not avatarfagging guise
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>>184310652
are you in love with me?
sorry i already have a gf
>>
>>184310592
Because she doesn't get storm after dying once but rush.
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>>184310739
>renaming all your images so people know exactly when YOU post them
kys
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>>184310739
>that organization
autism
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>>184310739
>https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/filename/Eris4/
Can found all your posts
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>>184310827
what did he mean by this
>>184310887
How dense are you really
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>>184308121
>Vialed my extra Ouro last month
I didn't know they would nerf PREVIOUS expansion cards, fuckers
>>
How does Elana deal against non-control decks? I'm playing Aegis only and sometimes have my ass kicked by Elana so I'm interested in trying it out, but I wonder if it's worth burning some vials.
>>
>>184310723
I don't care if he's your friend or kohai. Came at me bro
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>>184308121
>>184310952
That's why you never vial anything unless you're desperate.
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The spawn nerfs are welcome and all
BUT MUH MEME DECKS
Rip my otk azazel snek deck and JO Dragon deck :(
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>nerf snow white
>she's garbage now
woah...
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>>184310980
>Elana
>I'm interested in trying it out
Elana is AIDS
>>
How many hours until the season ends
Please respond
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>>184311002
Learned my lesson now
>>
Anyone got a budget havencraft deck with bunny?
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>>184310739
i want erika 6, 7 and eris 1 and 2 pls, thank,and the one below ewe6 and forte01
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So, Sneks are literally unplayable right?
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>>184310768
With Cygames regularly nerfing old cards now there's no reason to ever press the liquefy extras button unless you're starting out. I could've kept all those Baphomet's I vialed away.
>>
>alice is still not nerfed
Neutral engine will still be stronk as ever. But it's okay since every class can use it :^)
>>
>>184310847
>she gains rush instead of storm
What did she mean by this? She gains rush now too idiot.
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>>184311054
Garuda Storm
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>>184311109
You can use them for surprise effect.
>>
>>184310825
Where is Dragon?
>>
>>184311054
Fuck off bunnyleader
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>>184311046
You mean if I play it I'll end up dead?
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>>184311128
>He is still complaining about neutral
Git gud already, scrub.
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Leaders when
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>>184311068
just have everything i don't care
https://mega.nz/#!tltmgZIb!CxWroXTn4XhFvFq737Fvk5lErJy8xMAid1f777pps7Q
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I think Baphomet was nerfed way too hard. Spawn obviously should be nerfed into oblivion, but Baphomet was part of many fun decks and I feel sorry now for Blood players.

t. Hagfag
>>
>had 37 starred Big Knuckle Bodyguards
>had 17 starred Scarlet Sabetuers
>had 9 starred March Hare's Teatime
Should I just cash them out now? If they weren't nerfed now they won't be in the future.
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>>184310940
>not organizing your shit
autism
>>184310947
seriously nigger?
Did you already found out you were wrong and now just gasping straws or something?
>>
>>184311286
>baphomet enable even broken shit like 5 damage to face+5 heal spam
But no sorry for Dragon, huh?
>>
>>184311219
>can buff almost all his followers for more than the value they're worth
>implying normal cards can complete with buffed neutrals
KMR please.
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>>184311326
You have no reason to unstar cards from the current set unless they have been nerfed.

The cards from the current set will just continue to be targets for nerfing until the new pack comes out, that's how it's always been.
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>>184311363
Dragon deserves it
Sibyl should have gotten nerfed too
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>>184311149
Thanks anon.
>>184311202
Still a poor newfag who spent all his shit on sword. And It's the only legendary I've 2x from opening card packs.
>>
>>184311408
Yeah, bloodnigger. You're the 2nd most broken cheater thing in this game.
>>
>>184311363
Dragon should try to win the game instead of stalling
>>
>>184311286
Even without Neutral Blood and Spawn, Baphomet inevitability would've been broken at some point as more sets came out. His design was too busted.

I do think that they should've stopped at just removing the enhance, but this brings him in line with Dragon Summoner and Maid Leader in functionality which is more or less fair.
>>
>>184311109
Literally all Blood decks but some shitty budget aggro are killed
>>
ungas everywhere
>>
>Dragon gets another nerf
>this retard is still crying about Sibyl every 15 posts
>>
>>184311392
And yet Neutral Haven and Neutral Sword got kciked out of the meta after like 2 weeks of release. Haven, Rune,Dragon, and Shadow don't even use the neutral engine and the only good deck using it right now is Blood.
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>>184311286
I loved Snek. This deck is destroyed because of this stupid nerf. I mean, Baphomet is really stupid when you compare it to other tutors like Dragon Summoner/Maid Leader/Lou. He deserves the nerf, but I'm still mad.
>>
>>184311469
Blood can afford stalling and WINNING. Some other decks too.
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>>184311469
if they did that there going to have another nerf
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>Ouro nerf
the fuck is this shit
fuck you cyfaggots
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idgaf she's beautiful and I am still running 3 of her in my deck.
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>>184310739
>avatarfag is slav
Summer
>>
>>184311363
Post your deck
>>
>>184311445
Immediate deflection as usual from the mature dragon playerbase
>>
>>184311529
You're mad because you're a bab seeking wins free of challenges.
>>
>>184311326
Yea, just like all the previous expansion cards like baphomet, grimnir and ouroboros right? Never vial cards unless you desperately need vials.
>>
>>184306332
>idgaf she's beautiful and I am still running 3 of her in my deck.
Into the trash she goes now, fucking rip
>>
>>184311636
Thats not what avatarfagging is,newfag.
>>
>>184311519
Neutral Sword lasted three days. It was right when the nips posted their neutral blood lists and everyone jumped ship to join the blood bandwagon.
Neutral Lion lasted a bit longer but it turned out they still die to Abyss so they were forced to go back to Aegis teching in their baby Rolands and Iron Maiden.
>>
>>184311623
>>184311648
>>
>>184311649
Deflecting to what? The original subject in discussion,?
>>
>>184311623
She's definitely going to settle as a 3 of in most lists by the end of the month. Being able to kill X/3 on her own or knock out two cards at her cost was way too much. After nerfs she'll still be good.
>>
>>184311685
posting the same folder of ebin anime faces over and over can get you banned for avatarfagging outside of the anime autism hugbox to be honest family
>>
>>184311636
But that's not avatarfagging, that's just autism
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>>184311636
How is that even connected
just stop
>>
>>184311685
go away мaлoлeтний yeбoк
>>
>>184311728
>>184311680
kek
>>
>>184306667
But how do we know it's Aegis prior to T9? A lot of Aegis decks lose on T3-6 if they have a poor hand.
>>
I wish they would have nerfed legendaries during the last dragon nerf instead of murdering poor boy Zell and Lightning Blast. I really liked those cards.
Fuck Saha, Israfil and Bahamut. Those are the cancer cards.
>>
>>184311761
>outside of the anime autism hugbox to be honest family
Bait or newfaggotry.
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>>184311761
>"ebin anime faces"
>literally characters from the game
>still denying he is wrong about avatarfagging
are you this desperate to show your autism or something
>>
>>184311761
How new?
>>
>>184311856
Lightning Blast needed a nerf, not just as a matter of power level but because of the way it warps the meta. It's not teching against shit like Mordecai and Seraph, it just takes them out of the meta without sacrificing any functionality. The card would've limited design space forever.

I do think that killing Zell might've been too much though.
>>
Just stop
>>
Why are there slav subhumans in my general
OUT OUT OUT low energy commie fucks
>>
>discord friends protect each other
>>
>>184311954
Nerf LB but release Spawn right after? I'd call it bullshit.
>>
Could I get a concede? 27037
>>
>>184310768

pretty low payouts, didn't play all that much since losing to braindead spawn, even after outplaying 1st and 2nd spawn, isn't exactly fun.
>>
>>184312020
>literally anything gets posted
>this must be the work of muh discord boogeyman
This off topic shit has got to stop
>>
>>184312118
fuck off discord
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>>184311864
>>184311891
>>184311903
kys weebs
>>
>>184312118
Gee, I wonder who could behind this post?
>>
Necro will be tier 1!
>>
>>184312210
You need to be 18 or older to post here, /v/ermin
>>
>nerf ouroboros because muh late game demonic strike and heal
>doesn't nerf neutral engine so by the time you get ouroboros game is already over
>>
>>184312303
Irony
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What did they mean by this?
>>
>>184312210
So he says in a weeb general in an anime forum.
>>
We can get full value from vialling ouro that was pulled from the prebuilts correct?
>>
>>184312382
>no u
Thanks for proving my point
>>
>>184312404
yes
>>
>>184312314
>sybil
>then play bahamut or grimnir to wipe the board
>or lucifer israfil to continue healing
Wow so hard.
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>>184312303
wew lad
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>>184312102
Thanks magisa
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>oh woops, looks like I hit the wrong button out of habit
>wait no, it's just shadowniggers sinking so low that they're cancering up Unranked now
>>
>>184312389
I will need the source for that anon, please
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>>184311745
After the nerfs no one will use her, count on it.
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>>184312108
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>>184312424
>avatarfagging slav
>not underage
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>GOTTA NERF DRAGON AGAIN!
Holy fuck this game is actually ran by morons.
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So honest it hurts.
>>
Havenbros, how many Themis you keep in your decks?
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>>184312495
Nice memespouting, friend
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>>184312558
this @184312561
is how you avatarfag you newshitter
>>
>>184312561
Kill yourself, Lelouch.
>>
>>184312471
Go and try do that now, tell me how well you get to heal when you're basically dead by the time Sybil can start healing.
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>>184312501
Don't sweat it.
>>
>>184312627
source me right now
>>
I'm so fucking glad about the Ouro nerf if only for the sake of T2.
>>
>>184312389
>So will dragoncraft be good after the patch?
No, Sybil on her own can't carry a shit craft.
>>
>>184312606
>@
As expected
>>
>>184312582
If you run Themis at all you run 3.
>>
>>184312519
You're all so needy. But I guess I can help out.
https://e-hentai.org/g/1008487/eee7642054/

>>184312646
https://e-hentai.org/g/1091817/12e0978cb2/
>>
>>184306501
This

Honestly fuck Spawn. Now I can't play aggro Temptress, snakes, mastema and azazel because of this one dumb ass card
>>
>>184312619
>he doesn't draw all his removal into sybil
gitgud
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I think I got matched against the #1 MP player
>>
Well these nerfs confirmed that Shadowverse is ran by actual retards, At least GBF is saved somehow.
>>
>>184306501
>>184312768
Just build the neutral engine then use baphomet to pull himself or another card of your choosing.
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Don't kid yourselves, dragon and haven would have been over represented in a meta without the current burst damage and aggression. They were already spouting huge winrates against non-cancer decks. They did the right thing.

Though they definitely should have touched shadow too since the former two crafts help keep it in check
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>>184312826
Post your own nerfs.
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>>184312779
>His opponent doesn't brick
gitgud
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>>184312314
I really don't understand why they nerfed Ouroboros. Haven, Rune, Forest, and even Dragons themselves have ways to counter it. Only thing I can think of is because of Take 2, yet they're ok with still having Aegis there.....
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please stop replying to autistic newfag and to actual avatarfags
thank you
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>>184312812
I won
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>>184312845
>Nerfing dragon is fine but NOT MY SHADOW!!
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>>184312845
Leave Shadow to me.
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>>184312826
t. dragonchild

Based cygames keeping the kiddie crafts in the playpen
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>>184306501
bapho survives in cat
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>>184312845
Can't wait for another month of dealing with mid shadow's cancerous value grind into eachtar burst bullshit.
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>>184312917
I literally just said that they should have nerfed shadow
Are you actually autistic?
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People who think Dragon nerfs are justified are D3 shitters.
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>>184312928
But shadow didn't get touched at all fampai
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>>184312909
>tove in hand
WOW IMPRESSIVE
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Someone explain to a retard why they nerf 1 aggro deck and 2 control decks.
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>Sibylnigger tears
Based cygames
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>>184312943
Now he can pull himself or BKB (if you run it). Might be worth running 1 or 2, but I have doubts that Cat itself will survive without Tove and Leader.
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>>184312845
>trying into dialog with dragonfags and havenfags
You just can't. Dragoncucks cares only about shadow. 100% winrate against all other decks except shadow? Nerf shadow!
Havenfags are "our shit doesn't stink" faggots
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>SOS is playing fucking Rapunsel in his vengeance deck
i don't know how this guy won so much shit
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>>184309484
source?
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>>184313195
>>184313141

t. shadownigger
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>>184313162
It'll be okay, not top tier definately, but not bad either. It'll be like all the other neutral decks not, not entirely broken unless you perfect curve.
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>>184313243
Literally proving that guy's point
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>>184313219
Hmm, that actually makes sense. Succ is terrible in a Tove/Snow White meta.
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>cerb won the leader contest which means more fanart
this is good
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>>184313219
I dont see any point playing Rapunzel except Sword which full of Storm/Rush followers without spending any evolve point.
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>>184313325
t. shadownigger
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>>184313219
>e-celeb faggotry
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>>184313385
fuck off avatarfag
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>>184313162
I wasn't running bkb before the nerfs either, and if it doesn't pull cat it pulls a tutor so as long as you have mana I don't feel like it's a waste
tove sure is a loss but I feel like without enemy's toves and snow whites you don't need a 2drop that strong (and replacing it with sektor or something brings better lategame value and more neutrals)
leader is a hit, I feel like it's the most relevant nerf to the deck, but what you can do about it, making do without it will lead to an ok deck still
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>>184312728
Based, thanks a lot
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>Not nerfing alice

In before the nuetral engine is still just as powerful as before.
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>>184313336
nah, even tho succ is meh right now, it's still better than Rap just because it can deal face dmg on the same turn
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>>184313385
why do her dogs always look sad or scared
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>all those buttblasted hag players

i play mainly aegis heavy control because of this cancerous meta and even i can agree that this shit is a really powererful deck and snow white + heavenly hounds in few first turns were just simply plain retarded

also saiyng that haven doesn't counter shadowcraft as for today is either stated by d0 players or fucking idiots

on the other hand not nerfing echtar is fucking bullshit in its own right and i agree with that completely
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theyre not nerfing tenko???? this is not fine at all
im not roachshitter who otk from full health reee
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Buy my prebuilt if you want to win. I won't get nerfed, ever. Trust me. Thank you.
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>>184313701
she uses them to pleasure herself
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>>184313796
i wish i was one of them
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>snow white can still trade into almost any 3-drop on top of activating dog
>hags will still bitch because it doesn't have the blatant overkill no-risk 2/3 stats for 2pp
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>>184313219
If you're spamming followers, she's a sticky and since you'll have followers on the board, you can almost always attack with her.
The thing is she's better if you're going first and have board advantage, but worse when going second.
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you're going to play Alicecraft after nerfs, right?
>>184313882
it's just bad in vengeance blood that's all
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>>184306332
Now that Spawn is dead, which deck will be meta?
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I am tempted to craft 2 Oz 2 Levi and 3 Mutagenic Bolt but i am worried i might regret it
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>Also, Bloodcraft is currently alone in its issue of having win rates that are significantly higher when going first than when going second. Some classes and deck types inevitably have an advantage when playing first or second, but game balance is negatively affected if this tendency becomes too pronounced: the outcome of matches can more easily end up becoming a matter of luck.

>I-I-ITS ONLY NEUTRAL BLOOD THAT HAS AN ADVANTAGE GOING FIRST

Yup this game is dead.
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>No feena or alice nerfs, nautrals will remain the same changing leader with carrots
>No change to BKB, still a powercreeped cudgel
>not nerfing eachtar
>nerfing ouro instead of BALANCED sibyl
>straight up kill baph
>snow white is now useless
Amazing
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>>184314053
MidRange Shadow and Dirt Rune
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>>184313824
I'm sorry this is not possible because she is not real
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>>184313756
I would play a less cancerous Shadow deck if Aegis and Seraph didn't exist.
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>>184314143
>>No change to BKB, still a powercreeped cudgel
BKB is powercreeped dragon warrior
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>>184314196
>have to reach 10k ONCE AGAIN because of august rewards
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>>184314206
B-BUT MUH SELF HURT
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>>184314196
>94
Kill yourself.
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>>184314143
>Snow White no longer murder Grimnir for free is now useless
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>were gonna nerf grimnir and goblin leader!
>anyone using the neutral engine just puts in angelic knights, or even repunzels

and the neutral engine keeps on a-rollin'
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>>184314324
Yes?
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>>184314143
Snow white can still trade a 2pp follower for a 3pp follower. I don't see how she's useless.
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>Snow White is now a situational Legendary that only has value trading against 3/3s,3/2s because she is otherwise wasted trading against 2/2s
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>>184314521
>wasted
As a bare minimum no 2/2 can kill her in a single turn.
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>>184314343
Grimnir is still good though. Neutral engine doesn't really even use enhance 10 grimnir in the first place.
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>>184314391
She's worthless because she doesn't leave a body behind.
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Since Ouro is kill I thinking of crafting Jabber. Is he good?
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>Shadow becomes popular again.
Time to remind them of the Banishcaust.
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>>184314659
no, it's a meme card
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>everything is fucked
>except for shadow of course ohohohoh
Fuck you KMR.

How many hours until maintenance?
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>turned ouro into a 8pp demonic strike
>turned snow white into a legendary fighter
>we promised to nerf more than one legendary but instead of nerfing the goblinslut we decided to release these le randem xD nerfs
>thank you
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>>184314324
Well yeah, might as well go back to running Mainyu or something now.
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>>184314521
As opposed to other 2pp drops which already trade equally into other 2pp drops? On top of the dog synergy, anti-2/1 synergy, and stickiness as a follower, she's perfectly fine

There's no reason she should have been able to survive trades in the first place, she cemented board control like crazy, especially compared to what other classes offer for 2pp
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I think it's safe to say the game is going to die thanks to these half assed nerfs.
sasuga KMR
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>>184314719
i wonder how they'll react when they have another week of player loss.
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>>184314649
>2pp that can trade into almost any standard 3/2 or 2/3 body 3pp
>worthless
Go ahead and remove her then.
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>wyrm actually multiplies x2 after evo too
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>>184314796
discord?
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>>184314796
i want to cum on vampys stupid face
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>>184314792
Don't worry, I'm cutting her from all my haven stuff and melting her for vials.
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Fuck this, I'm gonna play a better game that will never need nerfs
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>>184312897
Technically everyone can deal with it by using Odin but nobody uses that anymore. Dragon can't deal with it either because nobody uses Lightning Blast. Ouroboros is the biggest reason Sword struggles against Dragon honestly, along with other midrange decks besides Shadow. Also even if Rune and Forest can deal with it, it's basically 50/50 on whether it gives Rune an advantage, and using Lily hardly gives you an advantage when they'll just play another big dick card you can't deal with.
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>>184314314
I play random crafts on the ladder too. I get bored and like to spice it up instead of autistically spamming one craft for 800+ games
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>>184314970
So you're a bandwagoner?
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>>184314765
>There's no reason she should have been able to survive trades in the first place
Yes there was

She's 3500 fucking vials
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>Cygames honestly believes it's only blood that has the going first advantage
>WHEN EVERY SINGLE OTHER CLASS IN THE GAME USES THE SAME NEUTRAL ENGINE OUTSIDE OF TOVE

fuck this shit
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>need to win 19 times in 17 hours
Can I do this bros?
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>wake up
>read nerfs
>dragon, haven and blood nerfed
MOOOOOM, GET THE SKELETONS!
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>>184315040
>cards should be allowed to shatter value barriers, cement board control, and break the game because of rarity
You need to be 18 or older to post here
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>>184315040
Kill yourself whale kun.
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>>184315106
>shadow untouched
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>>184314206
BKB doesn't deal 3 dmg
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Are there any control decks left that haven't been touched? I'm not that good at the game so I don't know shit about the meta.
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>>184315253
yeah he doesn't even need the evolve to be useful
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>>184315360
control blo- oh wait
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>>184315360
Dshift hasn't been touched once.
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>going second is so bad you can't even against dshift with heavy aggro
nice game
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>>184314659
Just put Forte back in or some shit
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>>184315005
I play every craft on the ladder except sword because I personally find it boring but that makes me a bandwagoner? Who or what am I even bandwagoning? I just simply like to play games to have fun.
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>>184315431
Isn't that more like a combo deck? I've lost to that stuff a few times when I played aegis haven. I usually lost when I had the board and they just pulled shit out of their ass. I remember once dying with naoise up and 18 hp to 3 fucking dshifts in a row while he started his turn with an empty board.
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>>184315106
I really hope haven doesn't get too popular, I want to play Nep shadow again.
I'm still mad she didn't win the leader poll
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>>184315515
That's how DS works 99% of the time. They just kill you in one turn using DShift.
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>>184313473
>>184308290
>>184312558
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>>184315515
It's a control deck that wins with a combo pay-off. Seraph is almost the exact same thing.
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>>184314792
Anon she can trade even with a 2/2 and die in the process. That's complete fucking shit, the only reason to run her now is for the dogs. And even then I think that arias are much better right now.
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At least we're back to being faster than /hsg/.
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>>184315638
Not for long.
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>4 copies of Alice I can't refund

At least Dirt rune is cheap to make.
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>Haven has 2PP legendary that can attack twice
>still not enough for them
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>>184315638
It'll be dead in a week once everyone realizes the meta doesn't change.

I find it absolutely fucking hilarious that cygames actually believes its only Blood that had an advantage going first, and not EVERYONE.
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>>184315628
>a 2 drop now trades with a 2 drop!!!
>oh the humanity!!!!!!
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>>184315628
Regular 2-drops trade into 2/2s and die in the process as well, snow white can also trade into 3pp followers on top of activating dogs and being an insane tech against 2/1s like blood wolf

That's how it should be. A 2pp 2/3 that also deals 1 bonus follower damage was completely broken
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>>184315705
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What's the chemo to mid shadow?
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>>184315747
Dirt Rune.
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>>184315705
Well the biggest advantage to going first was goblin leader. Now that he's total shit, it'll come closer in line. Teena alone should keep things relatively closer from that point onward.
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YOU SHOULD COME ON MY ADVENTURE!
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>>184315747
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>>184315747
daria and dirtrune
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>>184315747
Dragon or another midshadow
Dirt rune is nice too for keep in check their board to prevent balanced horseman to win the game
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>>184315628
You need to kill yourself, hag
>>
if you replace a mission does it immediately give you another one?
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>>184315746
What part of this meta is going to change nigger?

All they did was nerf spawn. Everyone's still gonna be running the neutral engine because it outclasses every other aggro deck in the game. No alice nerf was a total fucking mistake. Decks that go first and nail a 1-2-3-alice curve are still going to be king. They'll just replace the goblin leaders with Rapunzel or Angelic Warrior.
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>>184315824
yes
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>>184315707
>>184315726
>it's okay for a legendary two drop to be shit
fucking shadowbabs
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>ouroboros
Why the hell are they nerfing a card that was already nerfed.
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>>184315798
I know the parents must've been a pain to model, but they still should've been made from clear plastic.
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>cygames do absolutely everything in their power to make sure shadow is permanently top dog
Why do I even bother
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>find the only forest on ladder
>get wrecked

Wood of brambles is a hell of a drug.

I conceded when he bounced it back to hand
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>All these retards saying Alice was the problem.
>Tell them no it's just goblin leader
>Get laughed at and raged at stupidly.
Feels good to be validated and not a retard.
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>>184315954
It's called SHADOWverse for a reason, anon.
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>>184315901
>shit
>can attack twice
>2PP
>shit
Jesus.
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>>184316018
>can attack twice
>can't even kill a goblin
D0?
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>>184315991
only idol leaders can save this shit heap
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>>184315991
>not a retard
>Game dies because of bad nerfing
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>>184315901
>it's not okay for a 2pp legendary to still have above average utility and value, it NEEDS to completely break the game!
Why not just print a 1pp 2/2 while they're at it, it'll be balanced as long as it's legendary, right?

Good lord, haven players really are literal children
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>>184315830
Rapunzel is shit and whatever Angelic Warrior is is way easier to deal with than Goblin Leader right now. Goblin Leader basically guarantees Alice is buffing something on turn 4 unless you have a lot of removal.
>>
Just a reminder that elves and fairies bathe in water that animals have to drink from so the water always tastes like feet and ass.
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>>184315991
because cygames is infallible and 100% correct every time, right?
you are a fucking retard
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>>184315991
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>>184316039
>can't even kill a goblin
Fairy dragon can't kill anything
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Will grimnir still be played? The 4 damage to all minions is still pretty strong, although I'm not sure if the lack of reach will be good. It's definitely more balanced now, though
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>if it counters aggro shitters it's broken
>the only decks that should be allowed in this meta are neutral aggro decks, everything else should be nerfed
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>>184316039
Oh woe is ye, a card with insane utility has a potential risk of not getting immediate full value if your opponent is only plays 1/2s (the situation of which already favors your tempo)
>>
Hagfags in this thread are disgusting.
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>>184316160
>Oh woe is ye, a card with insane utility
>can trade into a 2 drop and die or trade into a 3 drop and die
>costs 3500 vials
D0?
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>>184316142
Yes. As just a 3 cost 2/3 ward it's already good. You can't use it as a finisher in midrange decks anymore but control decks will still value the board clear.
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>>184316220
>>184316057
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>>184316220
You're really pathetic.
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Ouro nerfs doesn't make sense
Because even without heal, ramp mirrors will still be "who play ouro first" for 20 rounds
devs are idiots
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>legendary 2pp 2/2

defend this shadowbab
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>>184316057
>Why not just print a 1pp 2/2 while they're at it, it'll be balanced as long as it's legendary, right?
Yes?
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>>184316371
its balanced if its shadow
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>>184316220

hag players are the biggest retards in this thread no contest
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>>184316371
it needs shadow so its balanced :(
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>>184316265
Hmmmmm. I don't really have the parts necessary for control sword or control blood, and Aegis has better board clears, so I guess I can go and vial my 6 grimnirs. What other deck archetypes did you have inmind that would still use them?
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>bloodfags don't defend Spawn nerf
>meanwhile havenfags
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>>184316392
>>184316423
This is also a 1pp 2/2. :^)
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>a 2 drop that trades into 3-drops is still not enough for haven players
>a 2 drop that trades into 3-drops and gives +0/2 and ward to dogs is still not enough for haven players
>a 2 drop that trades into 3-drops, gives +0/2 and ward to dogs, and double trades with 2/1s is STILL not enough for haven players
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>>184316452
D0?
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>>184315946
something being molded from clear plastic isn't any harder than molding it from normal plastic i think
t. my mother and uncle own a plastics company
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>>184316515
f-1?
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>>184316452
>you can evolve Snow White
>she doesn't lose her effect for unknown reason
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>>184316452
Name a single 2/1 that will be played after the nerfs.
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>>184316515
good argument, very mature
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>>184316441
MUH
>>
>it's go second against dragon and watch him erase your board with salamander and follow it up with fevor -> sybil -> bahamut - grimnir

Ramp is utterly degenerate
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>>184315628
>>184315901
>snow white can either trade into a 2 drop and be an average 2 drop, or she can trade into a 3 drop worth more her value
>legendaries have to be broken otherwise it's not fair :^)
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>>184316558
>he's stupid enough to go second
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>>184316452
Name one (1) 2/1 follower that sees play which isn't the already nerfed baphomet.
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I wonder if new meta gonna be diverse. Or TOG cancer all over again.
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>>184316558
>it's go second against dragon and watch him erase your board with salamander
Uhhh what
I don't even remember this feeling desu senpai
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>>184316550
>>184316606
Vengeance blood is as good as ever with a slowed down meta
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>>184316452
>a 2 drop that trades into 3-drops is somehow worth being a legendary
holy shit cygames fucked up, blitz lancer should be legendary!
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>>184316645
Good point. I forgot he was a card,
sad that I can't abuse him anymore in CaraBurn due to nerfed bapho
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>>184316608
>Shadow is second best class now and wasn't nerfed
What do you think
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>>184316452
wow what a broken fucking card it can trade into a 2 drop and dies but i guess thats a a lgendary for you huh, wait what ? a 2pp that deal 3 face damage and gain full evo? a 2pp that destroy evolved enemy follower on fanfare? well shit how about a 2pp that literally wins you the game?


so much for a legendary 2pp 2/2 huh?
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>>184316424
I can see everyone that already uses him as just a regular 3 cost mainly still using him but the Enhanced version will be less likely played. Don't know how Dragon will turn out but they'll probably still use both versions of Grimnir commonly because of ramping.
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>>184316704
Haven is the 2nd best class right now, though.
>>
SNOW
WHITE
FUCKS
DOGS
>>
You have 5 seconds to explain why shouldn't hagfags kill themselves
>>
At least I know who cried about roach in TotG meta. Havenfags are really children
>>
QUICK
POST ROOST MEMES
>>
i want to suck on erika's vagina
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>>184316757
Grimnir will just be another board clearer like bahamut

actually better since he'll leave your followers on board too
>>
Nerfs when
>>
LEGENDARY FIGHTER AHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>
>>184316704

>shadow second best class
>when cygames literally says that aegis haven is second deck next to neutral blood

yeah no
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>hagfags always mention shadow and shadowlog
>but completely ignore their own shadowlog stats
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>>184312897
>>184314921
stop reaching like a cygames apologist. it isn't because "it bullies sword too hard." ouro was nerfed for one reason only: it drastically extends the average length of games. cygames wants 8+ cost cards to end the game, but ouroboros doesn't do anything other than give both players 5 more turns, since 4hp isn't hard to deal with but you won't make headway against the demonic strike/last words
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>Baphomet can pull itself
Why has cygames suddenly decided they fucking hate tutors? They couldn't even give it a can't pull itself clause. Dragon summoner is so good right KMR?
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>>184316893
>Actually believing ANYTHING those faggots say

guess it's only blood that has an advantage going first too huh :^)
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>>184316879
I'm still waiting for it
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>shadowniggers are suddenly sucking cyjew cock now that KMR is cementing shadow as his pet class

can they get anymore pathetic? enjoy your dying game i guess shadowbab
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>>184316941

better believing them than buttblasted hag retards with their shadowlog
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>>184316898
adding to that, ouroboros exposes the incompatibility of making ramp balanced while making sure every class has 8-10 mana cards that make the other guy concede within a turn or two.

the only ameliorating this would be if dragon didn't stop at 10mana and had a 13 mana aegis/seraph-like card. obv this has other problems but cygames is fucked either way
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>>184317004
Haven still beats shadow down, arguably moreso since they can run afford to run cudgel instead of teena
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>>184316941
Here we go again
>cygames said Dragon is second deck after midshadow
>Shadowlog is WRONG LMAO
>FALSE DATA LMAO

And now after "Haven" nerfs

>cygames said Haven is second deck after neutral blood
>Cygames are WRONG, Shadowlog is RIGHT
Comedy gold
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>>184317017
>It has statistics, like the fact that my game is dying, that i don't like
>so it doesn't count

i think the only one buttblasted here is you
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>>184316812
>>184316825
>literal non argument

tell me again how a 2 pp 2/2 legendary is supposed to be good, it can trade into a 2 drop and dies so it must be legendary worthy right?
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post music to grind rank to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA0lvfwvqts
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>wake up
>nerf announced
>fucking Ouroboros, snow white and grimnir nerfed
>hector untouched
Fucking kek. This is the best day of my life.
I knew I made the right choice starring this faggot.
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>shadowniggers literally killing shadowverse

its like pottery
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>>184317087
>2pp legendary should be broken
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>>184317191
if a 2pp >gold can be broken cancerous piece of shit card i dont see why not desu
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>>184317191
2pp legendary should be worth crafting

Why use 3500 vials to craft fighter?
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>>184317087
But anon she can trade evenly with grimnir :^)
I'll probably dust haven and go full shafow now. If the head cannot be taken I see no reason to fight it anymore. I'll enjoy my new and balanced 2 drop that can instakill tempo for four shadows
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So what is gonna be better for forest after the nerfs? AE or GURIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMUNIRU?
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>3pp, 4pp, 5pp etc legendary can be broken but not 2pp legendary
really nig my nog
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>concede
>game freezes
Does that shit only happens to me? It doesn't happen everytime though
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Poor havencraft :(
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>mfw redownloading the game
>mfw i feel like a cuck
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>>184317078

if you think their statistics mean anything after the fiasco with totg then you should just kys my man

other than that it is not a mystery that this game is fucking dying and i have never been saying otherwise
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>>184317291
AE for roach decks and SAAAAA for neutral decks.
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>>184317397
I had that happen to me a lot recently. Supposedly it happens more often if you press Quit when the opponent presses end turn, so maybe it's better to just wait and do it.
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>>184317345
So actually you want broken card unironically?
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>>184317424
>their statistics aren't truthful because i don't like them

you're repeating yourself dude
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>>184316537
>F-1
Yes, I'm a pro racer.
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I think this thread made me gay with all the futa posting.
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>>184317424
>if you think their statistics mean anything
my sides
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>>184317502

>reading comprehension

yeah, hag players are just that stupid
their statistics are not shit because i don't like them but because during totg they got them wrong and now cygames you know - people who made the game and have official stats contradict them one more time.
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>>184317424
>kys my man
le funneh nagger rapper
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>2pp bronze fire lizard is much better than snow white
>even angelic snipe is better than snow white
my princess didn't deserve this. kill alice
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>>184317681
So you're saying only Blood has a superior winrate going first.
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>>184317681
wew lad I guess going first isn't actually an advantage unless you're playing neutral blood... cygames have contradicted them after all!
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What should I replace grimnir with in midrange sword? Asking for friend.
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>>184317778
You shouldn't.

Grimnir is pretty much your only board clear outside of alexander and cyclone blade.
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>we nerfed this haven and dragon card because after we nerfed blood we afraid haven and dragon might get a little too strong :(
>meawnhile the cancer deck which caused half of the playerbase to quit the game last expansion was untouched
>the 2 nerfed cards were ((coincidentally)) were the only 2 craft that can go 50/50 with shadow last expansion

cant they get anymore obvious with their favouritism? why do people even believe these retard?losing half your playerbase in one expansion is not enough and now KMR are trying to kill the game for good
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>>184317478
>roach decks
Are those even playable compared to neutral?
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And now Cygames are wrong because Haven is pure!
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>>184317740
>>184317739

i was talking about aegis haven being second best and most played deck in game when some retard posted that shadow is second now you fucking mongoloids
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Snow White is the reason why you DON'T print low-cost legendaries. Low-cost cards can't have interesting text, it's all about the stats they represent in the end. Snow White was as stupid as Tove but wasn't considered as such because she was a legendary.

Hopefully Cygames learned the lesson. If they don't and print another low-cost broken lego, don't fall for the bait. It'll be another Snow White fiasco, a broken card that will print money, and it'll be nerfed in the end.
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>>184317891
keep sucking those KMR cock shadownigger, enjoy your dead game
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>>184317908
were not talking about that you deflecting nigger

were talking about how cygames info is supposedly more accurate than shadowlog and THEY claim that only blood has a superior winrate going first when its clear from both shadowlog AND ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE that that is simply not the fucking case.
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>>184317891
It's funny how during DE when cygames spouted the obvious "all classes are played equally according to our data :^)" lie, shadowniggers foamed at the mouth with rage... now they blindly believe whatever bullshit kikegames types
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Why can't the west have tournament staff that aren't obese neckbeards or trannies
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Did you guys seriously believe that they would nerf Eachtar when their boss clearly stated it's his favourite card?
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day after wonderlands release
>shadow is going to be T0, no meta change
day after wonderlands nerf
>shadow is going to be T0, nerf eachtar
waiting for you fags to be wrong againg
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>>184317997

>were not talking about that you deflecting nigger

but i was you fucking dipshit faggot

here

>184316704
>184316893

not my fault that you bunch of buttblasted hag idiots don't know how to read and entered the discussion about shadowcraft and havencrraft deflecting to muh blood
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>nerf the top 4 classes
>except Shadow
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>Dragon data posted by kikegames = true
>anything about Haven = false because muh chemo!
Disgusting.
>>
reminder we're talking about the same company that said lighting blast arent too strong ;^), we arent trying to promote any particular class this expansion ;^), and completely fails to predict giving roach a guaranteed tutor would fuck up the game. and were responsible for the blatant powercreep each expansion. you were either legit retarded drone or a paid cygames shill to seriously believe anything these nips says
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>>184318206

>>184316704
>>184316893
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>>184318172
>clearly stated it's his favourite card?
proofs?
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>>184318206
What proof is there of haven being the 2nd best class other than cygames' word, which is not reliable as they have repeatedly lied about these things.
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>shadowniggers sucking cygames cock en masse

pathetic desu
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>>184318269
Definitely seems strong.
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>>184318269
That one interview before ToG release. He clearly likes it as a finisher for shadowcraft. He also mentioned the Desert Rider being Dangerous, but that's another topic.
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did anyone even seriously defend these retarded fucking nerfs? why?

>nerfing snow white instead of aegis or tea time
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>>184318279

>lied about these things
>(needed source)

>official statistics from cygames is a lie but shadowlog is true because fuck cygames and mu chemocraft

hag players are really the worst
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>>184318421
>Blood is the only craft that has a serious advantage going first in an expansion based around neutral cards
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>>184318406
nerfs where good, except for ouroboros
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>>184318421
Yes, lied.
Do you believe shadow during DE was played as much as haven?
Do you believe blood during DE won as much as sword?
Do you believen going first is not an advantage unless you are playing neutral blood?
All of these (and more) are blatant lies.
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>>184318470
They also missed Alice and anything to do with Shadow
>>
honestly if anything we learned form all these time that cygames are incompetent as fuck, im not going to trust anything these >mtg pros says until they release their full data in public
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>>184318452

you fucking dipshit hag faggot i already have siad what all this discussion was about so stop deflecting
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>>184318574
>everything cygames says is true
>except for that thing that proves what they're saying is bullshit

kill yourself
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>>184318406
Nerfs are fine, the only problems is they didn't nerf enough.

Nerfs are on monthly basis now so hopefully they'll be fixing the game in a more orderly fashion now.
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>>184318341
>Shadow lacked a strong finisher
>What is nep
>Once nep is out you can't win anymore

I miss the old lightning blast. At least that time dragon can deal with it. Now no class can deal with nep once she is on the board.
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How am i doing?
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>>184318341
Thank You.
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>Grimnir is finally getting nerfed like the cunt deserves
>I vialed my spares 3 weeks ago.

All the nerfs except Ouros are good, Sybil was the one who needed the healing removed, not him.
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>>184318508

>do you believe

so no proof i undestrand

also

>Do you believen going first is not an advantage unless you are playing neutral blood?

i have never said otherwise, all i was trying to say that retard saying that shadowcraft is second class right now because muh shadowlog can put it up his ass to muh blood
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>>184318682
>infinite heal is fine
kys nigger
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>>184318702
>Cygames is telling the truth about haven being the second used craft
>But they're lying about Blood being the only craft that's the best going first

bonafied total fucking retard
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>>184318702

*so stop deflecting to muh blood because the discussion wasn't about it and who goes first
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>>184318638
>what is Lily
>what is snow caprice and mutagenic
Rune counters Nep so hard these days.
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>>184318741
I'd rather have them have a riskier time ramping up rather then safely ramping up and losing out on the infinite heal which doesn't matter that much when they have shit like Bahamut/Israfil/etc.
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>184318702
>so no proof i undestrand
I see you are only interested in shitposting instead of having a discussion. No more (You)s for you.
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59177

pls concede!
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>>184318702
> i cant stop choking on all these Cygames cock holy shit

literally (You) tight now
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>>184318772

>deflecting to muh blood but but going frist when i never said otherwise, all was about shadow statistics

jesus christ what a fucking bunch o stupid cunts
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>>184318741
ouroboros does nothing but drag out the game, exposing shitty decks in the process. the only reason ever to complain about ouro is if your deck sucks (read: is sword or forest).

it was nerfed because it made games last too long, as playing it repeatedly usually means neither player is getting much closer to winning
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>>184318862
thanks grandmaster
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>/svg/ use "official data" to BTFO "muh Dragon" after LB nerf
And now /svg/ hagfags deny "official data"
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I just realized we're going to have to live with Scarlet Shiteater and Big Butt Fighter FOREVER. I want to throw up. I don't care about the Spawn nerf, "evo points don't matter" is now permanently here to stay.
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Thinking of some spicy and inconsistent retarded memes for roost
What if, roost into windmill into ultimate carrot spam into ptp
Up to 10 carrots every turn trading into enemies for board control while generating shadows
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>>184319003
>dragon get's constant healing and removal while playing a huge body as soon as turn 6
>nobody was closer to wining the game
Shut up Dragoncuck.
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>>184318132
>dat weird ass walfrid neet sword deck
>>
Why don't you retards fuck off if you dislike the game so much?
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>>184319003
Only sword sucks against ouro. Forest has lily for transform.
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>>184319064
So blood IS the only craft that has an advantage going first!
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>>184319064
Hagfags want to be the new shadownigger. Why don't you let them?
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>>184318682
The question is do control decks vial him or not. The 2/3 ward for 3 is still good, but those juicy vials...
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>>184319118
>DE again
How about no.
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I can't believe you retards defending a 2 drop that can trade into 3 drops and survive.
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Rita leader when?
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>>184319159
But every class was played and won equally during DE
Cygames said so themselves
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>>184319159
So maybe we can have someone draw the Jew Eris too?
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>>184319096
that means two things
>forest has to put lily in their deck, they don't reallyyyy want to
>ouro has already used his fanfare and maybe even evo traded, he's already done something so i don't mind his being removed
>my 8mana bomb being removed makes my bigger threats scarier
>lily getting natures guidanced means i'm way less likely to ever get combo'd down
i'd say lily does help with dragon matchup, but less than one would think, and running it will screw up your laddering more generally

>>184319092
unganiggers really do talk like children. sad.
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>nerfs come out
>going second still has a shit winrate with the nerfs

i wonder how cyshit will explain this
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>>184319348
They have to nerf BKB Tea time and Tenko.
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>>184319379
>Tenko
>>
Should we all go shadownigger so eachtar gets nerfed?

Inb4 they nerf the wrong card like b&b
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>he still plays shadowverse

wow you guys are cucked as fuck, im playing gwent right now after the shitshow that was Totg
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>>184319348
Nerfs aren't up yet
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>>184319425
how do you use a computer if you're illiterate?
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>>184319419
>gwent
>>
is there some non jewnico jcg restream? I hate that fucking site with a passion
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>>184319379
>Tenko
D0?
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>>184319419
GWENT is too p2w. You can't climb ladder if you don't have a full set of meta deck. I mean you need to have EVERY SINGLE ONE of the card. I played in beta and was enjoying it but uninstalled it once I realised the only way I can climb the ladder is to pay.
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As a nep main, I think Eachtar is fine.
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How about this?
>Character that has full defense (is not damaged) cannot be healed
There. Fixed everything.
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>>184319413
That's what I'm going to do. With 4 snow whites and 2 Spawns I have enough to make eachtar and cerberus. I jave to make some golds for wight and shitsquaser but honestly whatever. I don't give a fuck about cancer anymore.

I really need morde now though. Fuck luna and PAPA MAMA
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Told you guys dragon needs nerfing. If alice was nerfed sibyl would be nerfed as well. The neutral system is mainly a powercreep solution to dragon.
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>>184319637
Why do you need morde if you going to play hector?
Why do you need Cerb and Hector if you're going to play Nep?
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>>184319619
For what purpose retard?
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>>184319637
>throw away your honor and become a shadownigger

Maybe you should throw away your life too.
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>>184319723
Elena.
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>>184319563
Well, Nep shits on him, but saying he's fine because of her is like saying Aegis is fine because of the Kaguya.
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>>184319619
>nerfing elana when it's the weakest haven deck
>>
a lot of people play shadow, do you guys really think they were going to nerf the card that makes the craft stay alive just because you are buthurt about tog? If shadow becomes T0 with a high playrate in the next month we can probably see a nerf. But i doubt it, haven "nerf" solves nothing, blood cat will probably still be good and blood pure still exist with bkb, scarlet, yurius, etc and dragon still has syvil
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>>184319637
Yes. Please. My rune and Nep need more free wins
>>
grimnir nerf is irrelevant, because it nerfs every deck equally, since he was in every single one
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>>184319619
>>184319749
nerf yurius?
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>>184319780
>Weakest haven deck
>With nut draw can win against both control and aggro

I think Aegis shouldn't be nerfed and Elana shouldn't be in the dumpster either. This change only make Elana slightly worse against control and still excellent against aggro. What is there to complain about?
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>>184319749
Why would you want to nerf fucking Elana at this time and age? It has HORRIBLE winrate against almost anything. Fucking retarded D0.
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>>184319773
>Nep shits on him
NOOOO delete this post.
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>>184319867
>If crappy deck gets a godcurve it's OP

k
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>>184319746
Honor doesn't win children's card games though.
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>>184319773
Nep shit's on him IF you manage to stay alive long enough to actually play Kamura and her, although with the current shadow and it's slow early game it's much easier I guess.
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>>184319926
>make a minimal change to a crappy deck

Again what is the problem?
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>>184319890
I'm not even that guy you submaster subhuman.
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>>184319926
>Elana bricks 90% of the time, every time
I wonder where I've heard that before.
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>>184319984
You better to check how WD Nep looks like. It's basically same as Midrange
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>>184320106
I have literally not seen a single Nep deck played in WD.
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>drop phoenix roost
>opponent responds by playing some big follower
>proceed to drop windmill and two hamsas in the same turn
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>>184320145
Not him, but once in a while you see one. Pretty understandable since rune wrecks it.
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>>184320197
Dragon is the dirtiest deck.
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>>184319829
I'd say it hits dragon more, since they could ramp to 10 early and bury you with multiple grimnirs before you could hit 10.

t. dragon memer (it's a good change, by the way)
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>want to play with Falise because she's a cutie
>don't want to whore myself and use the neutral engine
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Neutral rune is pretty much untouched and got rid off blood nicu
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>>184319064
>7 percent
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My wife, Alice, is unnerfable!
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>>184320197
>drop phoenix roost
>die
small correction, fellow rowen
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>>184320106
So where am I supposed to look at that "midrange like Nep" deck at?
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>>184320287
Hamsa is a honest card.
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>>184319829
20% off your total defense is anything but irrelevant.
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>>184320414
Neutral rune is overrated hot trash
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>>184320197
>dragon players play phoenix roost
>proceed to play 4pp seraph and 3 countdown reducer

the good old days...
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>>184320447
Prepare for Neutral Sword being the new cancer. They don't lose a strong 3-drop because they have Cindy.
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>>184320414
Neutral rune is fucking shit
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>>184320414
>Sweet Witch
>Falise
Nice support.
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>>184319998
>downright destroying a bad deck
Haha let's show em shadowbro
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>>184320547
>this is what retards honestly believe

Shadow's going to become tier 1 again.
>>
Are you guys ready for another month of neutral eachtar domination?
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>>184319343
maining forest during all ToTG times and that's not true. lily is very useful against reaper, negating chimera, removing 2 ward from DB (which is the bane of roach) and can go 1-for-2 in many case.
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>>184320645
2 months
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>>184320414
Neutral Rune is actually one of the decks hurting the most from Grimnir nerf.
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>>184306360
>>184306360
>>184306360
migrate here later.
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>>184320464
Satan Cat streamed one
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>>184320623
How is that destroying a deck?
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Okay, now that the nerf is soon to be upon us, will you still use this guy even when he clashes with Alice turn? I think I will still use him since it's still two bodies on a card.
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>>184320547
lmao what is neutral sword gonna do? Drop followers on curve? oooh scary hahahaha
>>
Why would you guys want to nerf Alice though? Isn't it a bit overkill? No other neutralcraft other than Nblood is relevant. Gob Leader and Tove are dead so I doubt blood will still play neutrals when their class cards are now better.
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>>184320813
:^)
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>>184320813
>4PP that just steals games going first if you have some followers on board
>why u want nerf
You are serious, right?
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>>184320874
>He did nothing the first 3 turns and expects to win
die
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>>184320813
All the dragon nerfs have already been overkill. Just a little bit more overkill at this point doesn't matter.
>>
Fuck man i had 5 alice ready to cash in
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>>184320951
>they play 1-drop
>you play 1-drop
>they play 2-drop
>you play 2-drop
>they play grimnir and eat up your 1-drop
>you play a grimnir
>they play alice and push your shit in
What next?
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>>184320874
Alice no longer snowball as hard as before without Gob Leader on 3. If Alice is so good why Shadow just doesn't play Alice with Kektar since their early game is weak without Reaper?
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>>184320702
It was nothing like midrange though.
I was just a regular RoB 2478 Nep with some attendants that ruined it's consistency.
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>>184321136
I don't know. Maybe because they don't have a 2PP 3/3? Hmm? What neutral support card you want to use? Siren's Tear and let them 2-for-1 you? Ded Moroz? More like dead moron.
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Is otk disco dragon legit now? Dragon summoner helps a lot
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>>184321204
That's my point. What class will have 2pp 3/3 after nerf? None. Neutralcraft probably only will see play in Sword and Forest but other classess are better with their own cards.
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>>184319984
I playing Nep for the last few weeks in AA3, and I win literally every game against shadow that runs Eacthar (or whatever his name is). Their early presense is abysmal and easily treatable with tools at hand, and once you Nep/Morde, there is almost nothing they can do. Foul Tempest takes care of any leftovers.
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>>184320197
Man, gotta try this out
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requesting a concede, friends

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>Goblin/Merman
>2/2 neutral follower
>Angelic Warrior
>Alice

There's your new neutral engine.
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