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ETA 7d4h

>Harbinger League
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1927546
>ES and Life manifesto
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1899919
>3.0: the Fall of Oriath
https://www.pathofexile.com/oriath
>Offline Build Planner
https://github.com/Openarl/PathOfBuilding/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/8R2HQiuu
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki

Last Thread >>184067357
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My build still does 500k dps
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>Wake up
>https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1927828
Impressive, Chris.
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>charged dash usable with every weapon
That makes it harder for me desu.
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>>184115382
lmao shitter
Mine does 1,1 MIL
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>he didn't pay for currency tab yet
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Sr/firestorm/rf berserker or frost blades raider
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>>184115260
what are the odds Gravicius is back in act 9 or 10
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>>184115594
I bought stash tabs ages ago before currency tab was implemented and now I'm broke.
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the league looks like trash. what have streamers said about it, so i can make up my own opinion?
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>anime
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fuck high templar and fuck oriathian people
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>>184115823
>badly drawn murrishit cartoons
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>>184115709

probably 0
they already replaced him with some random guy in a8
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>>184115823
>cartoons
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>>184074114
>free
>>184078090
>FREE
>>184082576
>free
>>184085409
>FREE
>>184091460
>free
>>184106828
>free
>>184109618
>free
>>184115159
>Free
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>>184115126
Increases and Reductions, not modifiers.
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poe a shit
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PoE's key point has always been complete build diversity and freedom of will

Nowadays if you're picking trickster - you're dot only guy (and the other way around)
A whole assassin class can't be played as an attack based character anymore.
If you're using attack skills - you're now sticked to frenzy charges
If you're using spell skills - you're now going power charges. What about things like crit staff wildstrike slayer as well as many many other builds? i guess everybody can just forget about it
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>Sunder
>Cyclone
>Flicker Strike
What are some more melee NiceBuilds™ for 3.0?
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>>184116479
Ascendancy classes were a mistake

It was retarded to add them
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>>184116479
>A whole assassin class can't be played as an attack based character anymore.
It's even more retarded because the Poison/Bleed nodes are designed for Attacks. It's like they didn't even take a second to think about how the charge changes would affect existing mechanics.
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>>184116495
Wild Strike?
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>Can't get frozen on Alpha's Howl

What do doggos have to do with not being frozen
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>>184116398
based freeposter
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>>184116495
Frost blades
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>We've taken into considerations player feedback over the past years and tried to fix the many areas of the game where power creep made players much more powerful than we intended to
(crickets)

>Also, power and frenzy charges were changed to be more in line with what they should have provided in the first place
OHMAGAD DIS DA WORST CHANGE EVER IVE BEEN PLAYING FOR 7 YEARS AND BOUGHT 20 SUPPORTERS PACKS WHY U DO DIS TO UR GAME GGG I CAN NO LONGER SUPPORT U NOW THAT U BREAK MY FAVORITE BUILD ASKING FOR A FULL REFUND NOW
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>>184116652
Psssh, you can't freeze Anubis boy.
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>be lazy
>always playing totems
>decide I need to step up my game
>do EQ build
>have to self cast enduring cry
>have to be on point with flasks cause melee
>have to care about positioning cause melee
>have to keep life leech going at all times
>have to actually know mechanics and shit
>"Wow surely all this extra effort will result in a stronger build!"
>does less damage than basic bitch AW totems build
>have actually died a few times while I have many totem builds with 0 deaths on them
Why?
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>>184116741
I don't mind the charge changes desu senpaitachi. Fuck those chill/shock ones though.
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>>184116632
>>184116681
but how do you mitigate ele reflect in maps
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>>184116741
Charge changes affect builds and uniques in more than just numbers kind of way. There are things in the game that make absolutely no sense with the new charges, like the entire Assassin ascendancy, Tulfall, Power Siphon and whatever else.

Simply nerfing numbers where they get out of hand is different.
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>>184116652
Wolves lived in the desert so they never got frozen
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be shitter, play shitter builds, die when I try actual builds

"Why?"
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>>184116998
Sibyls/Scion Elemntalist + that new 20% reflect reduction thingy
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>>184116926
Some people simply don't like playing with totems.
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Should have just nerfed the generic charge generation sources desu

shit like PCoC+OoS on half the builds is the problem because there is a huge gain for little investment.

And the 1001 different Frenzy on kill sources need to go too.
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>>184116998
you don't do ele reflect map mod.
Wow, 1 chaos to reroll, too expensive, trash tier build!
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>>184115748
I'm actually sorry to hear that, that sounds shitty
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>>184117030
>poe is super hard guise but i am rly gud OK??
lol
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>>184116398
you are my light in the darkness, freeposter-kun
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>>184117128
>that new 20% reflect reduction thingy
never heard of it, but figures frost blades could possibly utilize some dodge to partially mitigate it unless pathfinder is vastly superior
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>>184117006
>There are things in the game that make absolutely no sense with the new charges, like the entire Assassin ascendancy, Tulfall, Power Siphon and whatever else.
How so?

>Simply nerfing numbers where they get out of hand is different.
Frenzy charges didn't always provide that dumb generic 4% more damage multiplier that applied to EVERYTHING. This change happened back in 2.0, not long before Ascendancy and opened up the shitshow of double-dipping that took 2 years to fix. Many old school players actually decried that change, but new players might not even be aware of the power creep that was always the norm to them.

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Version_2.0.0#General_Balance
>Frenzy Charges now grant 4% Increased Attack Speed and Cast Speed. They also grant 4% more Damage.
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>>184116741
the charge changes fuck build diversity in the ass, make a bunch of uniques worthless, and even ruin some skills.

keep shilling, though. I'm sure you loved the manifesto on the charge changes where they implied we're all too stupid to understand the changes.
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>>184117417
it's a pantheon ability
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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1927828
Is there a more based person alive in the world than Chris? A lesser company like Blizzard who bends to the whims of casuals would have reverted the change on the spot, but GGG sticks to their guns, I can respect that
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>fuck build diversity in the ass
nothing diverse about everybody running some simple charge gen for free more damage
>make a bunch of uniques worthless
tulfall was never worth using
>and even ruin some skills
name 1
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frenzy nerf was needed, but 1 week before 3.0 release is stupid
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this game is a lost cause lmao
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Spreading rot threshold jewel added to PoB for a trickster or occulist blight build when?
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>>184118043
Vaal lightning trap
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Is it possible to make spectral throw hit 3 times?
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>3.0 perfomance is terrible
>bugs and crashes everywhere
>better nerf some shit 1 week before release

just GGG things :^)
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shitcrows sure are crying up a storm over muh dps
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where can i find the charge changes? i'm retarded.
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I dont fucking understand why are people whining about changes in a FREE game.
You get to play this game for FREE and experience all of its content for FREE and you still whine, day and night about what the company, the people who made the game and care about it do with it ?
How fucking ungrateful can you be
Youre not paying for ANYTHING , GGG gives you FREE mtx and FREE stash tabs from races and so on
You have no right to be a little fucking child that cries 24/7 and bites the hand that feeds it
PROVE ME WRONG
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>>184115708
Frost blades will be strong but the chill nerfs will affect if. Frenzy charges won't change it.

SR is getting a lot of changes because of poison nerf and burning damage increase. RF also got nerfs but the support gems for both of these skills got buffed.

Life builds should be a little better off in 3.0 than before.
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>>184117975
did you misread that? they are rolling back the changes. lol.
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Imagine being such a retarded unimaginative little shitter that you can't understand how to build a spellcaster with frenzy charges or an attacker with power charges, it's almost as if builds that combine both charges don't exist, oh wait what is Cast on Crit, what is hybrid Cast when Channeling Bladefall/EK, what are phys wanders, what is Blade Vortex, what are crit mines, what is Discharge, what are Occultists and Assassins, what are any build that I didn't copypaste from some streamer?
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>>184117636
Said that before and got no response. I hope people forgot rather than never knowing that desu.
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>>184118793
You CAN do whatever you want

It'll just be shit

Turns out you're the shitter
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>>184118043
>nothing diverse about everybody running some simple charge gen for free more damage
much more diverse to just make the game blue = spell and green = attack, am I right?
>tulfall was never worth using
what about hegemony's, the new trapping unique, etc
>and even ruin some skills
power siphon, vaal lightning trap, ice bite, discharge
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Why does Reduced Mana Reserved get more effective the more you have of it
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>>184118491
Ok retard
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>>184117636
Yea and before they got 4% more damage mod nobody ever used them

They should have just made it more difficult to to get/keep frenzy charges.
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>>184118043
At least there is no reason to go Crit on the left side of the tree. I just lose 100k DPS because of the change.
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>>184118885
So you admit they're killing viable builds?
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>>184118885
Turns out this is the better solution than doing anything you want and it being Shaper viable.

People ran spellcaster Raiders for fuck's sake. That should be a huge red flag and template build that only works because you cleverly scaled it despite the initial drawbacks. But it worked very well nonetheless because frenzy charges scaled everything. Frenzy charges were always about increased attack and cast speed. Never more damage, just because.
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>because stuff was """"""""mandatory"""""" removing options is actually adding options
t. raizqt and every other retard right now. and these are the people this community listen to. honestly i'm one bad decision from ggg away from quitting this game for real.
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>>184117636
>hurdurr lemme give you some of dat spell dmg multiplier for killing things with a wand attack
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>>184119127
>he didn't quit already
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>>184119103
>Every build running around with all charges
>Diverse
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>>184119103
Yea, king of the meta HERALD BOMBER!

>>184119118
The entire draw of the game is that you can make weird builds

Why shouldn't you be able to make caster raiders?
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Failure. Ambivalence. Death. A final abyss of unending darkness.
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>>184119127
frenzy charges were mandatory retard
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>>184118967
>the new trapping unique
>bonuses when trap is triggered by mobs
"No".
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Thoughts?
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>>184119118
the more buff on frenzy was because before that, no one ever fucking used them. Also, working out spell builds on attack characters and attack builds on spell characters is for a lot of people a major selling point of the game. some people like attacking on witch, some people like a game that isn't just "THE WARRIOR HITS THINGS WITH SWORD, THE MAGE CASTS SPELL, THE THIEF USES BOW"
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Why are people spelling doom for frenzy charges ?
They still have the 4% more damage multiplier for attack skills, thus they remain unchanged for like half the skills in the entire game
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>>184119349

yeah, I don't mind as long as uniques are rebalanced to compensate
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>>184119372
They're killing build diversity which is the whole point of the game
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>>184119249
You CAN make spellcaster Raiders. You CAN make melee Necromancers. You CAN make summoner Champions. The game should never provide you with an easy and obvious way to do so.

Generic more damage multipliers that are available to everyone don't provide the so called build diversity everyone is clamoring about. A Raider should be built around Raider bonuses, which are primarily for attackers. It should not be purely a "frenzy charges and some more neat stuff like ailments immunity so I get both damage and defense" ascendancy.

The idea that you have to sacrifice something sometimes in order to get something good had always been the foundation of build diversity. When something is good for everything, that's not diversity, it's homogenization.
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>>184119118
Why the fuck should caster Raider's be a red flag when caster Marauder's have been a thing since like early beta of the game? The game is supposed to be a build what the fuck ever you want type of game. The new changes restrict quite a bit more what you can do and ascendancies were already a huge step away from the do whatever you want building of the game.
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Legitimate question and not just trying to trigger people.

How do you feel about poe's design vs diablo's? Diablo seems to take the approach of "let all of the shit be OP, some is just more OP than others", where poe is so focused on limiting players and seems to be slowly reducing the amount of viable builds. As a rare mystical creature who likes both games, I actually feel like I have more freedom in diablo. This, however, is probably just because of the mechanics and ease of re-speccing. Just this last season in Diablo, I was able to get to Gr70 and beyond with multiple builds (which I would argue is the definitive beginning of endgame in gr pushing), but it is way harder to come up with viable builds than poe. Is it just higher skill cap?
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>>184119349
>Frenzy charges are free so everybody uses them
>hmm should we make it harder to get frenzy charges?
>NO MAKE FRENZY CHARGES WORSE!

Does GGG source their devs from leddit, because they seem to share the same retardation
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>>184119507
Thats too bad, I was planning on playing hegemonys era cyclone but I guess ill scrap it now
Nothing we can do about it anyway
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>picking raider or assassin for literally everything is "diversity"

hmmmm
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>>184119565
you said:
>People ran spellcaster Raiders for fuck's sake. That should be a huge red flag

why, why is that a red flag

if you think frenzy charges are to easy to gain for their benefit then the solution should be to make frenzy generation/upkeep harder, not make frenzy (near) useless for any build that isn't an attack build
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>>184119349
kys for that libbit post
Fucking GGG fanboy, just kys
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>>184119710
jokes on you I pick chieftain for everything and hes not getting a nerf anytime soon
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>>184119710
Well yeah if GGG cared at all about build diversity they'd remove ascendancies
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why do people listen to streamers? they only ever play meta builds and will shill the game to the ends of the earth since its their income source
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>mfw ascendant is now a better crit build base than assassin
Quality changes GGG
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>>184119349
Bullshit my redditor friend. Jump off a briedge please
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@184119757
>being this much of a cuck
not even a fucking (you) for you
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>>184119710
>assassin was a good ascendancy

wanna know how I know you're a shitcrow?
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>>184119507
Before
>hurr lets go full charges on every build cause they're just as effective to attacks as they are to spells
Now
>should i get those frenzy charges if their cast and movement speed help my build? or should i drop them in favor of more power charges that will give me more damage? maybe i should spend those points/sockets/whatever into other stuff instead?
There, now you're choices matter.
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How do you explain making a build in the passive tree to someone who has never played before?
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>>184119710
>least played ascendancies in hardcore
hmmm
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>every shitcrow shitter ran assassin, elementalist, inquisitor and raider because they were more damage multpliers stacked upon more more damage multipliers
but
but
but MUH BUILD DIVERSITY
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>>184119846

about fucking time, I can't wait to play Sion again
Sion is adorable!
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The frenzy changes were good and if you think otherwise youre a retard, they were mandatory for every build
The power charge changes and assassin changes were absolutely unnecessary and flat
out retarded as you cant make reasonable crit atk builds now
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>>184119964
Before:
>is the cost of upkeep worth building frenzy charges?

Now
>hurrr frenzy charges are shit so of course they aren't

good changes GGG asslicker
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>>184119846
1.5 base crit for nothing plus other stuff, or 2 base crit for keeping up charges that don't even help attack based builds

hmmmm
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>>184120008
It was out the window as soon as Ascendancy came out. Live with it.
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>>184120123
What cost of upkeep, Jesus Christ.
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>>184120026
Sorry buddy but it turns out you're the retard

No, the better frenzy charge change would be to make them much harder to get but keep their power the same

So there is still incentive to try and get them but you have to actually make some sort of sacrifice

Now people just won't use them

>>184120312
the one I am suggesting being added instead of just nerfing the charge.
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>playing hardcore in 2017

are you THIS pathetic?
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>uptime on frenzy charges was a difficult build decision
Are you quite literally retarded? 12-24% more damage is an insane damage multiplier in a game where people are already shitting millions of dps, there isn't currently a single build save for a summoner that isn't instantly massively improved by frenzies, fucking DoT builds like ED or CA used frenzies because why the fuck not make your DAMAGE OVER TIME deal more damage regardless of any cast/attack speed bonuses?

IF EVERYONE USES SOMETHING HOW IS THAT DIVERSITY
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if they want to improve build diversity, they should remove shitcore
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>>184119964
>at best 2 skill points for 4% cast speed and 2% move speed
Lmao what a choice fucking retard
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>>184120446
I AM SUGGESTING YOU MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT TO GET THE CHARGES

ANON CAN YOU READ?
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>>184119890
walk back to shittit, retardcat
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>1 build can reach 1 million dps
>every other build should suffer from nerfs directed at that build
cool. ggg should run a country.
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>>184120372
>the one I am suggesting being added instead of just nerfing the charge.
Ah ok, my bad then. Yeah they could've gone that way too and i wouldn't mind but to be completely honest i never liked "damage" as part of the frenzy charges, they should've been focused on speed only. But every build having every charge available all the time while getting full bonuses from them sure wasn't "diverse".
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Why did reddit overreact on the Frenzy/power charge changes?
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>>184120774
they're summershits who don't understand the meaning behind the changes and just cry and moan like little babies whenever their build is getting nerfed
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>>184120742
Frenzy charges used to not have the more damage on them and they were almost never used
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>>184116562
fuck you I'm enjoying my 100% leech and 40% more dmg on one node
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>>184120907
I would still use frenzy charges to speed up my shield charge.
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>>184120907
>Blood Rage was almost never used
based newshit
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>Attack Crit minor node 25-30% crit

>Power charge 30% crit, +1 travel node +1 charge duration node

really makes you think
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>>184120560
pathfinder nerf when
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>>184120907
There are many ways to buff something that's not a universally used "MOAR" damage. Make them give a bit more speed, add some leech effect, have them give you evasion/dodge, etc.
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how about this niggers

the first frenzy charge gives 1% more damage
each xth additional frenzy charge gives 1+0.5x% more damage
so 1 frenzy charge gives 1% more damage, 2 frenzy charges gives 1 + 1.5% more damage, 3 gives 1+1.5+2%, etc
this makes it so that raider can still specialize in frenzy charges while reducing their power for builds that don't specialize in getting them so they aren't mandatory
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>>184116495
why not bladeflurry? is it bad? I've been planning to run this BF build I crafted as a starter
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>>184121086
That's Essence, so it already happened.
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DESU they are right with the charge changes. There was no build diversity with them, everybody wanted fucking frenzy charges.
If they are not gonna balance other shit to make up for that then they are fucking stupid
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>>184121021
There was a reason they added it dumbshit
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>>184115748
same :<<<<
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>>184121135
No, cause everyone will still use them for the free damage they give to every build. Fuck it, i'm going with my former suggestion. Keepd endu charge as the defensive one, the power charge as the offensive one and make frenzy a utility one : give them a bit of speed buff still and add an evasion/dodge bonus to them.
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>>184120560
Anyone got these charts for Legacy or Breach?
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>>184112424
Regular Split Arrow has zero AOE coverage problems you horrid little cretin.
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notice how you've yet to find a good player complain about the charges changes?

notice how the vocal minority of reddit is almost entirely comprised of shitters who never reach level 90 in hardcore?
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>>184121951
>playing logoutcore
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>>184121951
As apposed to here, which has about the same composition of shitters who never hit 90 in hardcore but are also autistic ?
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GUYS GUYS GUYS WHAT IF FRENZY CHARGES WERE

5% attack speed
5% cast speed
3% movement speed
5% trap laying speed
5% trap cooldown recovery
per charge?

On top of that you could buff specific things like Raider attack damage per frenzy or modifiers on Uniques. That way they wouldn't be a must have on all builds but would still be good and even better if combined with something that has additional benefits per frenzy.
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>>184118491
What does the Sycophant ascendancy get you, exactly?
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Here is what Mathil, a popular streamer, says about the changes. Now I am not a fan of that softcore scrub or watch streamers, but he apparently tests over 10-15 successful builds in each league, is one of the most famous community members and he doesn't seem to be working with GGG according to his opinion about these changes.
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>>184122417
nice video, upboated and subscribed
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>>184121951
mathil doesnt like them
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>>184122417
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QdbVESdwE0&t=0s

Forgot the link, sorry. I'm so shaken right now i can't even.
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Every day we stray further from God, and in the end there will only be darkness
"Simply fuck GGG" said prophet PT, and now we know he was right all along. Welcome to the Project.
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w-will I finally get rich this league, /poeg/?
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Mathil is a lifetime Assassin shitter and a shitcrow, I said GOOD players
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>>184122560
fuck off
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>>184121951
>altf4core
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>>184122680
Yeah no one will be playing so all the rng will go to you
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>>184122163
how about giving both frenzy charges and power charges +4% more damage, but don't let the damage bonuses stack if you have both.
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>Dunno, was news to me too - I found out when I was going through changing all chills and shocks from non-hits to the new system. I assume the change was made for balance reasons at some point, and the stat description wasn't updated to specify that shock was different - it should have been, but it is now anyway. - MarkGGG on the whole Vinktar's shock shit
Remember, they know better.
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>>184120994
The bonuses Ascendancies give aren't the problem. It's the fact you can only access them as (1) class. It is fundamentally against their idea of "you can do anything as anyone!"
Nobody's ever gone out of their way to make a Duelist Necromancer prior to Ascendancy and that definitely didn't change with the addition of Lab, but the point was you could with a little work and understanding it'd be a pain in the ass to get gems for and that you'd be a bit weaker due to having to travel so far in tree just for Minion nodes.
Ascendancy classes basically says "Unless it's a 2 hour or less race, the only Summoner you should make is a Necromancer which is a Witch base, cause otherwise you're missing out on a ton of benefits."
Which is also a bit skewed since most other builds besides Summoner have a few choices in their Ascendancy, but still.
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>people fuckin everywhere call out GGG on their obvious inability to balance fucking anything and retarded decision
>w-w-we have experts, shut up its only a vocal minority!!!

fuckin hilarious seeing chris try to make a post like this when a shitstorm ensues, the dude just cannot apologize for bad behaviour ever
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>Just woke up and saw all this outrage
If reddit is that mad i'm all for the changes.
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>>184122995
before ascendancies we had a shitton of people bitching that every class feels the same
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>>184122995
>idea of "you can do anything as anyone!"
it's a retarded idea and abandoning it was one of the few things ggg did right
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>Power charges nodes are Notable nodes
>Now Power charge nodes are exactly equal to a minor node
Can't make this shit up
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>>184122995
>you can do anything as anyone!
You can you oblivious shitter.
What is the Essence Drain designed ascendancy? Is it Occultist? Trickster? Scion? Berserker? Raider? Necromancer?
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>power charges give you more damage
>frenzy charges also give you more damage
explain why it should go back to this
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>>184122995
Don't make me roll a caster Champion!
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>>184123315
Trickster, he gets free frenzy and power charges and gets 5% increased dot damage for each charge.
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The changes to charges are right, the lack of balance for items and nodes around it is what's retarded.
If you just say changes to charges are bad only then you are a shitter yourself desu senpai
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only people against nerfing every build in the game are shitnick standard cucks that derp around with mirrored items and dont actually know how too play the game
nerf everything GGG, make the game hard again
destroy me and recreate me in projectpts image
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>Not everyone in this community is a little whiny bitch like the morons on reddit. Unfortunately the community has become more and more stupid over time.

>I for one am very happy with the changes. The power creep was out of control and needed the nerfs.

>Can't wait for the new league and thanks again for all the FREE content.

>Don't listen to the haters.
Ok, which one of you fuckers wrote that?
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>>184123309
Power charge notable nodes are objectively inferior to minor nodes*
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>>184123682
there are 2 40% crit small nodes too, just below ranger start
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Can I roll cast speed on daggers?

I googled it says no but I can find them on poe.trade?
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>>184123309
Damn, it's too bad we don't have several mechanics that scale with how many power charges you have. Oh wait.
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>>184123809
Essence of Misery
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What's his endgame?
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>>184124052
crashing this game
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>>184124052
making every build an elemental hit build like it was always meant to be
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>>184124032
Shit. I guess I wasted all my orbs on nothing then.

Thanks.
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>The minimum requirement to join our QA team is 1000 hours of PoE experience, and we still turn people with that prerequisite away if they're not good enough at the game.
>only 1k hours
>yfw you could easily be the best "expert" on the QA team
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>>184124052
selling the game off to chinese
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>>184116741
Didn't know being a gaming developers enables people to suck my cock no matter how bald I may be.
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>>184124234
Alk looks like he has native blood
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Will this be good for Oro Flicker? Or should I go Duelist?
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sorry guys i had a list of a builds that did over 1mil dps in 3.0 which i sent to ggg qa dept, most of them used charges, the rest of the builds from the list will be addressed by launch stop doing damage
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>>184124052
Turn the game back into this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_EcQDOUN9Y
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>changes are so nonsensical and dumb that the only reason people can come up for them is that the devs don't play the game
>y-yes we do, muh 1000 hours muh QA
>so why is your game so fucking bad
>w-we just communicated poorly, you're just misunderstanding our genius. remember, we make this game for you
>but we don't like what you're doing with it
>yes you do, we just have to explain it better and you will start having fun


???
??????
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>>184124563
>not pob
lmao
>>
Hierophant now viable lads
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>>184118491
>it's a free game so you MUST enjoy it regardless of whether you enjoy where the dev takes the game

Well if GGG wants to intentionally make the game less enjoyable for me or anyone else, they can enjoy having less people playing the only game they've ever produced. Why the fuck would I want to active sit through a grind slog with builds that don't fulfill my power fantasy or simply aren't fun to me? If I want to work my ass off for something I'll go start my own business venture or work on my career. Not play a fucking kiwi shitfest video game.
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>>184124924
What is pob?
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>tfw someone of my friends has alpha access
>he never got higher than 56 on HC
>his highest character is a 81 Shitcrow
>he started playing in 2012
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>>184125096
something used to identify shitters basing on whether they use it or not
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Is rf chieftain or berserker viable this league?
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>>184125170
rf zerker is the new bandwagon starter
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>>184125096
path of building, basically a set up spreadsheet for theory crafting dps
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This is you.
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>>184125369
>Being a liar
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>>184124563
99 points, 189% life
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>>184125170
>is having 10k+ life viable in a game that loves to one shots ~7k life builds

Yeah, you daft cunt.

good luck gearing early, tho.
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i never did a CoC build and tempted to try it this league

why do i see people with 1 skill linked to it instead of multiple?
i just want to fill my screen with effects and shit on others fps
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>>184125406
>being worthless
https://youtu.be/bcgBYCmblMw
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>>184125616
because mines are laggier than coc
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>>184125616
coc is dead now dumbass
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So which toon is the best in PoE?
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>>184125616
CoC is completely kill
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>>184126167
frost mage
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what's a toon
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>>184125697
the zerker leech works with righteous fire dot?
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roger rabbit
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>>184125535
You need RT/ Wrecking Ball and still no Acrobatics. Also Raider seem lackluster compare to Slayer and Berserker
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>there are people in this thread who don't listen to ASMR while grinding gear in a game
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I listen to SFM porn ASMR while I grind
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>>184126568
>Autonomous sensory meridian response (ASMR) is an experience characterised by a static-like or tingling sensation on the skin
???
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>>184126431
no
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>>184126568
>not immersing yourself into the game with music turned off and ambient sounds and sound effects turned to max
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>>184126541
52% increased accuracy
>needs RT
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Dual Hyaons Firy raider ST

Thoughts?
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Kinda miss PT in times like these
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>>184125369
>>184125697
Is zerker better than chieftain for rf?
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>>184127468
chieftain has life regen, zerker has 40% more damage and lets you regen some health while facetanking a boss with some attack
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I don't think I've ever seen a company make so many shitty changes all at once before. I think the closest I remember being Tribes: Ascend.
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>>184127640
i guess you dont remember 2.0

>>184127170
he doesn't miss us
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protip to chris:
Power: crit multi instead of spell damage
Frenzy: remove more damage, increase cast and attack speed
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I wonder if charged dash works with nu-Ruthless.
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So what are the good parts and bad parts of 3.0

Good
>no more cruel and merciless
>pantheon
>minimap
>harbinger league looks good
>4 of the new support gems are good

Bad
>if boss loot isnt buffed itll be more efficient to skip them with their double hp buff
>charges are kill
>status effects are kill
>every dot except for rf and ed are kill
>7 of the new support gems are dead on arrival
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>>184128237
>pantheon
>good

oh sweet summer child
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>>184128237
>>4 of the new support gems are good
which 4?
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Path of Building is what killed this game.
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>>184128275
its FREE bonuses

>>184128302
chance to bleed, efficacy, brutality and maim
before you ask, chance to bleed is good because it has a flat phys bonus on it, so it works well with facebreaker
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>>184128237
>charges are kill
Fucking babies.
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>>184127468
>>184127601
>>184127601
Zerker is 40% more damage and 25% life heal from warcries

chieftan is easier to build around, more regen + defenses.
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>muh charges
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These "people" need to go on the day of the culling
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>>184125535
Fatal Blade and Master of arena is a bad idea for Oro. You definitely need Destroyer and Wrecking Ball to go with Fireborn. It gonna take you 10+ point for that alone
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>>184128581
both of which are still strictly worse than LL RF, but you need muns to make that work now.
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>>184128684
Don't worry about muslim mass immigration to Europe, we're fine
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>>184128491
>brutality
>good
and chance to bleed doesn't work with facebreakers
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If you still have <~25 stash tabs you're still basically in your free trial phase

Really the game should be considered "Free to play Inconvenienced"
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>>184128491
>>184128889
Ruthless is good now!
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>>184128491
>Brutality
Unless you are using Starforge, no
>chance to bleed
Bleed is dead

Only efficacy and maim are decent but still not enough to compensate for the nerf
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>ssf with 4 tabs
>>
>needing 25 tabs
Spotted the tradecore shitb*rd
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>>184121138
flurry is still good. clear feels like shit sometimes bc of the aoe nerfs but single target is busted
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What a fucking cancerous community.

>pretend to be worried about the casualization of the game, clearspeed meta killing it, hur dur PT was right, true hardcore is the way
>rightful nerfs incoming to keep player power in check
>NO IT WASNT TRUE LOL PLEASE DONT TOUCH MY 80 CHARGES STACKING 10M DPS SHITCROW CRIT BUILD I WAS JUST KIDDING WHAHWHAHWHAH PLEASE GGG NO OH MY GOD I WENT FROM 2SECONDS TO 4SECONDS SHAPER KILL IM NEVER PLAYING GAME

And now those cowards at GGG finally take a stance and start taking action, they are backing up because of you absolute retards.

Disgusting.
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>too poor to buy a few tabs and get organized
Just go play Diablo you baddie lmao
>>
Our balding cuckboy Theuberelite just went online!
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>>184129269
i've got a 100 in a HC league, I don't need to prove myself again
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>>184121951
>Alt + F4/logoutcore
toppest of keks my dude
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184127170
forgot your cat picture
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>>184129767
>he still going
lmao
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I am completely new to the game, and I asked how to get started in general chat and they said I should wait a few days before I start playing. Any reason?
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>>184129767
I honestly dont care either way as I can just find a new game if end up not liking it, but your rabid shilling is distasteful. You may leave.
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>>184128237
>Pantheon
At the cost of 40 HP from Oak. The bulk of the Pantheon is also worthless and there's only one or two good ones outside of RF synergy. Most of the Pantheon deals with stuff nobody has ever had an issue with protecting against.
>Inb4 one of the A9/10 Minor Gods/Kitava if they stick him a globe at the top deals with Reduced Damage Taken from Unique Monsters and is thus an automatic slot-in on almost every build
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PT was right
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post your 3.0 build, charge and shock/chill free edition
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>>184129767
>implying they are the same people
Reddit is the one doing the majority of the complains and they never liked PT cause "he's mean"
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Are there any good melee spectres
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>>184130287
No. I have 2 builds planned: 1 for playing with my girl and 1 for when she's busy. You're not seeing either.
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>mfw bubblewrap boys think endlessly rerolling and grinding out pussy map mods on CuckCore makes them pro at an already casual game genre
It's very amusing.
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>>184130246
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but both posts were referring to Reddit you stupid weeb. And poeg is infested by Reddit so it's the same
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>>184130246
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>>184130468
what build got you the g/f? im alone
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literally deleting this game from my hard disk state drive and there is nothing Chris can do about it

haha fuck you fat bald fucker
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who is this reddit person everyone's talking about
>>
It's only infested by reddit because you're here faggot. kek
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>>184130287
Probably something like this, gonna try Berseker Dark Pact
poeurl.com/bnvK
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>>184130556
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>>184130287
It's the same as before, just with elemental focus
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Ah, but what about Power Siphon!

>yeah what about Power Siphon!!!
>omg Power Siphon did they forget it exist?
>lmao poor wand skill now absurdly destroyed
>look at Power Siphon!!!! looooool
>I just had an original thought I wanted to share with the community: Power Siphon is now completely gutted. Upvote please.

Yes, all of you playing Power Siphon on a daily basis, so sad! Except wait a second:
>Before
Power Siphon uses power charges generation to gain crit and nothing else
>Now
Power Siphon uses power charges generation to gain crit and nothing else

>O MY GOD THOSE RETARDS AT GGG DID THEY FORGET ABOUT POWER SIPHON
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>>184130627
>got you
Believe it or not, /soc/ just being my antisocial, depressed self.
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>>184130723
world renowned cum guzzler, uncontested swallowing champion

Pic related is what breakfast is like for reddit
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>>184130287
srs
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>>184130850
>Nerf a skill that wasn't being used for how crap it is
>This is somehow okay
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>power charges being spell focused and frenzy being attack focused is good
t. d3 shitcrow
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>>184130094
>>
lots of laughs to be had in this funny thread

you guys are the best (Y)
>>
What if they merged Zealots oath, GR and CI, everyone wins
>>
>everyone and their mother wanting frenzy charge is good diverse design
and you call me a d3 shitcrow.

the only problem is the balance of uniques, gems and nodes with the charges. a lot needs to be changed.
>>
Does the beta have character lines already? How does the Marauder react to killing his gods?
>>
now that every good build got cucked.

is an arc berserker with stormcall on t16 bosses now semi respectable ?
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>>184131145
It's stupid only because there's items and nodes specifically designed around frenzy spelling and shit like that. Otherwise it would be 'who cares'.
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>>184131326
>a lot needs to be changed.
and theyve stated no intention to do so, nor have the time.
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>>184131386
>arc berserker with stormcall
What're you doing.
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>>184130670
>hard disk
lol
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>>184131386
yeah, shock those bosses! CoB is great!
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>>184131473
yeah, I agree it was retarded. dont mean to imply otherwise.
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>>184131353
his whole line have been changed throughout the game
the fucker just can't stop talking about kitava
kitava this kitava that kitava do you want a coffee?
nearly worse than scion about men
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>>184124303
its called albanian
>>
>use thing
>thing get updated with a new function I don't need
>throw a fit because I don't need it so now somehow I can't use thing anymore because i'm an entitled crybabby and i should be able to use this new function i have no use for
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only thing that matters for Power Siphon is that KB exists instead and you can run any simple thing for free power charges instead

Shut crows need to stop talking about skills they don't use
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>>184131386
>is an arc berserker with stormcall on t16 bosses now semi respectable ?
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>>184131984
fucking muslims
>>
imagine how few complaints there would be about these changes if shitcrows weren't allowed to voice an opinion
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>>184130287
Scion dual wielding Mark of Doubting Knight. Hybrid defenses.

Definitely assassin, then split between guardian for summoner/support with le conduit and pathfinder for not sucking balls.

I wish I could go gladiator ascendancy, but it's just so shit though
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>>184131638

>going crit as arc, esp in 3.0

im laffin mate
>>
>Everyone copying ZiggyD's frostbolt

Truly he was too good for us
>>
Hmm, considering that Power Charges now give 4% MORE damage, is it viable to go Hierophant+Romiras to be at max PC and EC at all times?

Should be pretty good for totems and labrunning.
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>>184129615
I have 200k on PoB on white mobs just holding it on stage 6. Is that good enough?
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>>184132290
>uses the only viable skill
>EVERYONES COPYING ZIGGYDUST
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>>184132052
the point was exactly that people dont use it already. I dont mind that much that it got thing that dont need like the poster above you is saying. is that power charge crit nerf is indirect nerf to a skill that was already barely used
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>>184130287
vaal summon skellies dark pact
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I hope they nerf srs along with every power skill early on
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RF+dark pact

stack str through the roof so you dont even need VP, get a doon cuebiyari for 1billion dmg

you can thank me later
>>
>This fucking self centered narcissist retard is top ladder

https://clips.twitch.tv
/OutstandingTameSmoothieHumbleLife
>>
How can you be narcissistic when you look like shit
>>
you don't need to look good to mentally ill
>>
Why can Elreon mobs spawn offscreen
Why don't Elreon mobs have the visual aura that strongbox mobs do
>>
Explain to me the point of Assassin in 3.0?
>CI nerfed
>crit nerfed
>poison nerfed
>bleed is better with other ascendancies
>non-cohesive ascendancy branches

Why would I not play anything else at this point? Even a Scion Assassin+Something?
>>
Power only matters relative to everything else. Currently power siphons relative power is low as fuck. This change doesn't make it worse or better. KB could just as easily have power charges up and thus would be just as hurt by this

Power Siphon needs to benefit from massive continuous influx of charges for it to really stand out but it doesn't.
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>>184133247
some ascendancies fall and others rise, get used to it
>>
Honestly I dont see any narcissism from ziz.
he just looks like a faggot
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>>184132845
not seeing amazing synergies except they both scale their damage with life. sacrificing more life as a RF is never a good idea, like it's already a build very weak to degen and shit
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>>184133267
just because KB can get charges as well doesnt mean that it doesnt make it worse. it does make it worse, gives it a nerf in crit chance. KB existing just makes it look bad.
see>>184132689
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>>184133247
>Nerf the Assassin. This was frequently requested.
>This was frequently requested.
>frequently
>requested
This was frequently requested.
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>>184133247
yet assassin still does more damage than any other ascendancy
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I want it to be next friday already
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How to fix the new changes to shock and chill:
>each instance of shock and chill have their own separate duration and can stack with each other
>thresholds rescaled so that the max is reached at 35% of max health dealt to the target in the last 4 seconds
wow that was so hard Chris
>>
>>184130287

I'll just try to become a non-minion witch since I'm a new shitter.
>>
raizqts opinion on charge changes

https://clips.twitch.tv
/HedonisticGlutenFreeEggnogCharlietheUnicorn

ahahahah finally a non idiotic streamer
>is everybody fucking retarded?
/myguy/
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It trully shows you have retarded reddit is, and what's worse - ggg listen/respond to them
They talk shit about "diversity" while EVERY FUCKING CRIT BUILD USE POWER CHARGES, WHERE IS DIVERSITY?
Also every build that have good way to generate frenzy charges use them, so like like half of ascendancies classes
Why are we playing reddit game guys? We came from ggg listening to ProjectPT advices to this
>>
Brand fuggin new to the game, why is there no info in the OP for what to do as a new player? I made a build in the planner, but what do I do? I've just been making my way through the story, I don't even know what League I picked or what mode people play, and there's a lot of Leagues. Which one am I supposed to pick?
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>>184133985
don't choke on chris' cock
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>>184133985
>HedonisticGlutenFreeEggnog
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>>184133410
the synergy is to stack strength, use a rise of phoenix for the resist
they removed double dipping so simple builds like this will be the top
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>>184134101
it's best to just start in standard since the new Major patch is coming next week. when that comes out there will be a proper tutorial in the game. It only took 5 years to add!
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>>184134101
The new league and expansion launches in a week. Maybe use this week as a practice period.

The default league selection right now is still Legacy League, so you will be in that currently.

There are some videos on Youtube for newer players that may interest you, although they may be a little dated the mechanics are still the same.
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>>184134362
>responding to bait
>>
>>184134362
So I should just get used to the game in standard, then play that new mode when it comes out next week?
>>
>>184134101
In the marginal case it's not some reddity copypaste, new League will come August 4th, so you should probably be ready to reroll when it comes. But sure, try the game out. The game is basically do every act then farm for gear. HC leagues are fun, you should try it out.

If you are the kind of faggot that likes to watch tutorials, there's a tutorial by a nigger named engineering eternity on youtube that covers base game mechanics. I wouldn't bother for now. Use that one week to try the game out.
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>>184133985

PAID OPINION! HE DISAGREES WITH ME THEREFORE HE GETS PAID!
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>>184134330
Of course you'll use RotP, but both RF and Dark Pact spamming consume your life so you'll need way more life regen than your usual RF. Look I'm not saying it's not going to work, but I'd sure like to see a PoB build with enough life regen to support Dark Pact.
And a realistic one, not a 50% effect buffed level 25 purity of fire.
Maybe if you go Inquis with the consecrated ground tree, just maybe.
Anyway, good luck
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>>184133985
"opinion"

calling people retarded isn't an opinion

can he express his "opinion" in an intelligible way? fucking ESL monkey
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>>184134553

I'm new too, anon. Honestly just play the game however you want to get a feel of the classes, while you browse the forums for builds.

Autists in this general are too butthurt to help newcomers.
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>>184132392
you should be like 500-700kdps on trash mobs honestly, but 200k is probably fine depending on how far you push your gear in pob
>>
Arguing about power siphon is the distraction from their aimless and hamhanded 'balance' changes they want.
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>>184133985
>gives zero justification as to why he thinks it was ridiculous

didn't know Raizqt was capable of deepthroating Chris full length.
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>>184134921
are you joking
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>>184134919
>>184134553
do what what you want then participate in the new league when it drops. transition to HC ASAP or find another forum to visit.
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Power siphon or not, its time for nerfs
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>>184134919
>Autists in this general are too butthurt to help newcomers.

go to reddit for help then faggot
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>>184134919
>>184134559
Okay thanks. I really like Sword+Shield or Bow based builds, so I'll look for those. I love HC, so I'll do the Sword+Shield approach first to get used to the game's difficulty.
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>>184135078
i would NEVER joke about Path of Building
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>>184135152
Look out, we've got a badass here.
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>>184135152
>he thinks I'm coming here for help

Yesterday was the first and last time I made this mistake. I'd rather cut my own head than have you help me.
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>>184135218
unless there's a change before release, switch to an axe and go duelist sunder. it's hard to fuck up.
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>>184135252
I had like 100k damage when focusing on phys damage, so I switched to ele and managed to squeeze out twice that.
There's no fucking way you can reach 700k dps.
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>>184135393
Have a nice weekend!
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>>184135454
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reminder that shitbird frostblades raider with 2.5k life is nerfed by these changes and thats the only reason reddit cares
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>>184135454
well for one you should have it set to release at 6, but here's a BF build i made (lvl 90)
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>>184135824
To think they are gonna back up on this is so fucking depressing.
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Power charges are useless for a non crit attack build. Likewise, some spellcaster builds don't have much of a use for frenzy charges.

BUT. Every single build benefits from endurance charges, they are too global and a threat to build specialization. In light of these recent new changes, I propose endurance charges can only be generated by characters with at least 10.000 armor (before flasks) and 300 or over strength. That way we can make sure power charges are only for crit spellcasters, frenzy charges are only for attack builds, and endurance charges are only for tank builds.
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>>184136301
fuck off

inb4 GGG does this
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>>184136301
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I hope they change the attack speed starter Shadow nodes to be %life
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>>184135454
>dw build
>using two rare weapons instead of a stat stick
>0 uniques
>0 jewels
>still only 5.5k life

Here. I even checked "Been Savage Hit Recently" & Turned off all Flasks. Just like you did.
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>>184136301
>>184136379
samefag reddit-tier kys
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>>184119349
>Another thing that people can consider is that the good old Aquamarine Flask sounds pretty attractive against bosses now if you can fit it in

Holy fucking shit how can someone be so stupid

Aquamarines got NERFED. 10% SLOW. THAT'S ALL CHILLED GROUND GIVES. Nobody used it before and GGG just made damn sure that even less people will use it now.
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>>184136752
>playing crit builds
>crit BF builds
kys
RT forever
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>>184134919
this is why we hate newshits like you
begone
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>>184136908
>nobody used it before

t. shitcrow glasscannon
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>>184136752
>using two rare weapons instead of a stat stick
no idea what this means
>0 uniques
what uniques do you use?
>>
wow people actually use aquamarine flasks?
what game are you even playing
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>>184136752
fASCINATING
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>>184135454
>RT
>with swords

Swords literally reach 91% accuracy with 0 accuracy on gear. Stop being retarded and play something logical.
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>>184137328
>what uniques do you use?
None, i only use this spreadsheet simulator. Never made past the tutorial I paid for desu.
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>>184137334
this flask gotta be one of the worst things ever done by GGG, what was the purpose even?
to make a base so shitty that you can one day make a OP-OP unique out of it to counteract the shit part?
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>>184137503
>Swords literally reach 91% accuracy with 0 accuracy on gear
hmmmmmmmmm
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>>184137328
Put a Doryani's Catalyst in your off hand. Now you gain 100% increased Elemental Damage, Elemental Leech, global crit chance. and your BF won't attack with it. Much better than just alternating attacks with two rare weapons.
Belt of the Deceiver very strong offensively and defensively, and Lightning Coil to help with Aspect of Carnage.
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>Dot nerf
>ES Nerf
>Aoe nerf
>Fun nerf
>Zana stronk
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>>184137216
I actually use an Aquamarine on some of my melee characters. I had a BoR Duelist that southpawed a Frostbreath (which is underrated as fuck) and Prismatic Eclipse and that shitty 1 alc mace carried me to late yellow maps.

I've joined hundreds of mapping parties, but never once have I seen someone else use it
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RIP in piece one punch man
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im gay and really like sucking dick. Is this game for me?
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>>184138476
yes but only if you play HC
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>>184138476
yeah you will fit right in
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>>184138476
ye
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is RT just destined to do 4x less damage than non rt builds?
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>>184138476
Welcome to PoE, anon. Hope you enjoy your stay!
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>>184138060
>attack rate: 0.23
kek
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>>184137886
thanks for the doryanis tip, a good boost in damage there
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>>184138818
RT builds are cheaper and can beat Guardians/Shaper too.
>>
why is homosexuality accepted as the norm and celebrated in so many online games these days?
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>>184138861
>>184138754
>>184138619
>>184138596
Is there are /Poeg/ guild?
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>>184139669
I don't recommend you play with these austismos.
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>>184139669
I recommend you play with these autismos.
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>>184139773
Who do I play with then? I don't want to play with redditors
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>>184139939
We all use reddit here, its the only way to stay up to date with info
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>>184139939
yourself
>>
Any viable beginner builds for the 3.0 update out there? Want to get back into the game but not sure which builds to trust on the forums since it's only beta and a lot of it is theorycrafting.
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>>184139939
Play with me, babe.

>>184140146
Unfortunately true since GGG takes all their damn feedback from reddit and most of the PR team works there exclusively.
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What kind of fucking asshole greenlit this?
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is there a link where every change so far is listed?
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>>184140303
what's your fucking problem. it's fine
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>>184140251
make your own you lazy stupid dumbbell
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is armor completely worthless?
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will today's news post be worse than the last two?
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>>184140362
No.

>>184140683
No.

It's just less effective against the things you most want it to be effective against because the equation is fucking stupid.
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>>184140251
Sunder is a good starter. Alkaizer made one that is viable in HC.
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>>184116652
It's entry level CI helm
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>>184140683
Armor on items is worthless
A granite with some flask effectiveness is 15000, which will basically make you immune to damage for early maps
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>>184140721
the wiki says I need 3000 armor to prevent 75 damage from a 100 damage hit
that looks fucking useless to me.
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>>184140484
>implying
Relics are rare as shit and there's virtually no change to the old version of that. The only difference is that Onyx only rolls 10-16 now instead of 10-20 and since it's the base item that was changed you can't even Blessed Orb it to 17+.
They might as well have changed the flavor text to "fuck you, you just wasted a Relic" just to really rub it in.

inb4
>lolol i found 20+ relics :^)
Well I sure didn't. I had ~18 days played in this league when I found my first and only relic and it turned out to be that metaphorical middlefinger there.
>>
What's the fastest way to unlock Scion? If I unlock Scion in the normal game, will I be able to play it when the new thing releases or will I have to unlock her on the new thing too?
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>>184141112
I found 10 relics and all of them we're shit. Very disappointing and I would have been better off selling them for 50c each.
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>>184141259
>we're shit
true
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>>184141221
You can unlock it now in standard or legacy, and it will still be unlocked for harbinger league
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>>184141221
As long as you've unlocked her once, she's unlocked forever.
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>>184141221
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Scion
>Because of her high learning curve, she's initially unavailable to new players. The player must rescue the Scion, who can be found in the final area of Act 3, just before the fight with the final boss of this act. Killing the boss is not required to free the Scion. This can be done on Normal Difficulty (in any league) to unlock her as an accessible character.
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>>184119349
>le reddit please dont get mad at the developer when they do something stupid :( (thanks for the reddit gold :^))
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>>184140146
disgusting
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>>184141384
>>184141389
Oh okay, so I just pick something easy to blast through the game to get to her.
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>>184141001
You don't give two shits about a 100 damage hit. You care about 5000 damage hits, where to lower that to a manageable value you will need more like 50,000 armour, for 50% damage reduction to 2500 damage.

50,000 armour is quite a lot.
>>
let's just all agree to not even acknowledge the new influx of shitters 3.0 will bring

poeg is an elite general for elite veteran hardcore players
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>>184141883
very ethical post
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>>184141883
Yeah. And let's remember it's a gays-only club. If you don't play HC and suck dick then this general is not for your type.
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>>184141883
this but unironically
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>>184140736
Thanks, checked it out. Apart from Alkaizer's youtube video making me want to kill myself, it looks ok.
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is aleski here? aleski please purge the shitcrows from the /poeg/ guild. it's desperately needed. shitcrows are genetically reddit and thus our enemy, thanks
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>>184142604
Yeah, it's me aleski. I'm too busy blowing guys for sheckles.
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if they nerf berserker I'm going berserk in the GGG hq
>>
there was at least 6 shitbirds in the guild last league, DISGUSTING
those poopigeons could be replaced with elite HC players
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>threshold jewels are now purchasable for 1 alch in Act 5

wtf I love GGG now
>>
Does taunt work on bosses?

I like to play support, making a champion. This is my first character
>>
>logoutcore
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>>184143196
>the guild
lol
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>>184143479
only some
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>hey GGG assassin is too good can you nerf it?
>"okay, done"
>no, stop nerfing things I like
>>
who, exactlty, are you quoting
>>
the collective of r/pathofexile
>>
oh. well, go do more 'research' and come back when we call for you.
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Funny how chris didn't mention poison in his faggy tirade, its fucking clear they didnt test that out at all, it does fuck all.
And he didnt notice the fucking bloated hp numbers either.
Is the game going to go the way of warframe, turning it into a slow slog of an experience ?
We'll see a few weeks into 3.0 i guess...
>>
Lets send mass emails asking to nerf saboteur in 3.0. Based on the manifesto they nerf stuff when enough people request it.
>>
>good players
understands reality is flux, that no man can stand in the same river twice (Heraclitus of Ephesus) and that adapting oneself to change is as necessary a part of life as the change of the seasons
>shitters
why nerf muh build :( (that i didn't even make btw) dun want adapt :((((
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>>184145294
We're still waiting on that millions of DPS with Poison/Bleed without compromising defenses build from 3.0 Wave 3 that Qarl claimed was the reason they had to Nerf Assassin.
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chris is trying to kill poison the way they killed prolif in 2.0

expect poison to come back in 1-2 years
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>>184145413
based
+1
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>>184144630
>Literally no one: "hey GGG assassin is too good can you nerf it?"
>Literally everyone: "Seems pathfinder, raider and especially necromancer are a bit too strong."
>GGG: "Let's nerf assassin and buff necromancer."
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>>184145439
>Qarl
can't believe they let him see the outside world.
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The one thing we can say for sure is that 3.0.0 will be complete trainwreck and disaster
First couple weeks will be fun
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>>184141450
>le bandwagon please i'm outraged so everyone should be outraged like me all the while losing all capacity for reasoning which I never had in the first place anyway so outraged
#poegate
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>>184145778
>fun
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>>184145551
I sent 500 botted emails all from different addresses asking for an assassin nerf LMAO feels good to have the power to nerf stuff myself.
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>https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1927828/

This is the most butthurt and passiv-agressive I've ever seen Chris.
Looks like he finally got triggered.
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nerf SRS when?
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>>184145551
necro wasn't buffed you dimwit
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>>184147408
He's talking about necro-aurabots. Aura AoE was buffed a ton, and blasphemy AoE a little bit.
>>
>casualize the shit out of the game
>shit on the casuals that can't adapt
what did chris mean by this
>>
>>184147196
It's not dominating the races like V.spark/fireball
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>>184147860
?
baron-SRS was like the #2 or #3 spot in the turdmoil race

And he wasted an hour at the beginning too
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>>184147113
it took awhile but we did it lads
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>>184147196
I thought it already got nerfed?
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>>184147938
This is Theuberelite's necro from Turmoil
200k dps with a 20 exalt build, its not exactly great
>>
This is only for the weak
>>
>>184148174
but someone is doing better than him so surely it must be the class and build that's busted and not the shitter himself
>>
>>184115260
THROUGH DETERMINATION THE DREAM CAME oh wait wrong thread
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>>184148174
yeah because it's uberelite
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>>184148174
still clears maps easily
Rampage also buffs that
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>>184148110
That attribute was always there. It's just has text now. It got buffed by the aura radius changes, though it might still be nerfed in this last week.
>>
Cloud connected
>>
Take this life
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>>184143196
>poopigeons
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>>184147113
>put substantial work into each change
>proceeds to nerf shock and chill to a point where they do literally nothing against bosses
lel
>>
Crawl through knives
>>
Is this game p2w?
>>
anyone here?
hello?
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>>184150056
Go fuck yourself.
>>
The split arrow jewel looks fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLkXtXSN5bw
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>>184150138
Hello PT
>>
srs is pretty dogshit for endgame without optimized gear

you can't multiply your listed dps by 20 either because they die too easily to aoe so it's never 20 srs focusing one target
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>>184150274
It multiply my listed dps by 20 on PoB that's what's important
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>>184150171

Jewel looks very nice. The gameplay and constant GULP do not.
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>>184150171
How much better is that compared to the regular Split Arrow? Doesn't seem to do much.
>>
>Arcane surge
put it on your movement skill
nerfed

>now
put it on a curse with blood magic, inc duration curse the ground twice
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>>184150771
how does it feel to never fuck
>>
>>184151047
It's probably worse, certainly is in indoor maps
you can always remove the jewels in that case I guess
wouldn't surprise me if this doesn't get past beta
>>
are trappers gay?
>>
Is Izaro going to get buffed in 3.0 when the uberlab becomes more profitable?
>>
>>184151289
>Blood Magic
It explicitly states it requires you spend Mana, so it won't work with BM.
>>
>kill oak
>"Talk to Lilly"
how the fuck is something like this still in the beta
>>
I've not played the league in a few months, what's the going rate on an uber/shaper carry?
>>
>>184152262
how do i turn off the new help pages
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>>184152262
who cares lol

10 free acts
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>>184152952
post your penis and we can talk
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>>184153556

Doesnt mean jack-shit. its 6 Acts, since previous 4 are still there. Its actualy two new acts - act 5 and act 10. Others are reskins.

Now drink that piss.
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>>184153556
nice frog piss guzzler
>>
>>184153784
ummm no sweetie? Act 1-4 are a bit different as well
>>
>>184151289
>self casting curses
I don't hate myself.
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>>184153994
blait
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>>184154121
how do I cast curses auto
>>
>>184154584
CurseWhileMoving gem
>>
>>184154584
Blasphemy, heralds, corrupted gloves, cwdt...

Anything to avoid pressing another button.
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>>184154584
post your xbox controller and i'll show you where to press it
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>>184124563
Fix that tree please, you are wasting two points on the left and you didnt get lava lash
>>
>>184153994

I dont really think so, darling.
>>
Is there a setting on poe.trade for level 19 gems on the verge of 20?
>>
>>184128643
Is this making fun of people who use carrion crow, or those who don't?
>>
How do I sell exalts for getting my dick sucked? What websites are available for this transaction?
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>>184155879
playerauctions
>>
0

tier

blait
>>
Make America Great Again
>>
will this game be more gay or less gay in 3.0
>>
>>184156014
I bet you make 60k a year, normie.
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Got my first 6-link today with literally 3 jewellers and 2 fusings. And people say this game is hard. Fuckin' casual game for babies.
>>
Please, rate my secret bleed build for 3.0. Thank you.
https://pastebin.com/irdHdame
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>>184156363
10/10
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>>184156363
>6 linking trash
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>>184156423
1/10
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>>184156423
Trash
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Why is Mors literally the biggest fucking inbred trash tier neckbeard in this community?
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>>184156423
>>
>>184156423
I mean maybe it works, but I wouldn't buy a Surrender for 130k dps build.
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>>184156551
how is that trash, you get +20% MORE dmg
>>
>>184156693
if youre going freezing pulse youre going crit
that aint a crit staf
+ you wont freeze bosses
Not in 3.0
>>
>>184156635
idk but pretty sure he's not cos you posting
>>
post deaths, path of building shitters
>>
mors is /myguy/
>>
>>184157052
843, 3 days played

dont ask how
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>>184156674
Suggestions? More damage? Different shield?
Dunno how this new keystone will work. And attack skill... it's so fucking difficult to choose. Reave, lacerate, anything else? Swords are best to almost cap bleed chance (also there will be suffix with bleed chance).
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>>184157232
bleed is trash
give up retard
>>
nice reddit spacing
not reading your blog
>>
>nice reddit spacing

imagine being this insecure you get mad over formatting
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>>184157114
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>>184157303
Have you tested it fucktard? New keystone is live since 24hrs. Blade Flurry will be the best choice I guess.
>>
>>184157232
See
>>184157303
Bleed isn't very good right now. The melee meta in the next league will likely be Phys-to-Ele conversion in order to stack multipliers, so look at Ngahamus Cyclone, Sunder + Hrimsorrow, and things like that.

Projectiles are much superior to melee builds, so there's that aswell.
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>>184157620
enjoy not having to imagine not realizing what an impact graphic design makes on your life you fucking dropout
>>
Phys->Ele wont be the meta once Chris gets done dragging his dick across your meme builds

/insider/ here:

conversion getting nerfed hard soon
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>>184157782
you weren't complaining about the quality of his formatting, just complaining that it made you insecure because it is used on a website you don't like
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>>184156814
Yeah looking back it was a bad idea to start fusing it. But it only took 2 so the game really saved my ass.
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>>184157947
Chris better not go that far, the fat cunt. I swear they want everybody playing Wanders and Bowers.
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>>184158075
i dont like a lot of websites. i take offense at much of their content, of which graphic design is a factor. take your nihilism to Barnes and Noble
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>>184130824
Terrible Shadow 10% starting nodes, you can grab the Templar area for additional attack speed and area.
>>
>>184158362
>they want
too much credit, sister.
>>
>>184158075
Why would you use reddit spacing outside of fucking reddit, you fucking inbred?
>>
>>184157947
Conversion is now reduced to 20% cap each second.
You can increase this by picking maximum conversion rate nodes in the passive tree,
>>
Post innocent sounding changes that you would believe GGG would actually do and would make Reddit extremely mad.

I'll start:
>Concentrated Effect is now a green gem
>VP only leeches instantly up to the leech cap, further damage is ignored
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>>184130824
Anon youre missing about 150 int for your gems, you cant path through duelist, it has to be Templar/Witch or you give up your neck for an Astramentis
>>
>>184159321
Congratulations, you are the 100 000 000 000 poster of the reddit-post.
>>
>>184159748
Ghost reaver only affects physical damage
>>
>my 8m dps PoB build thats worth <1 ex in legacy still hasnt been touched

easy game desu. Enjoy your nerfs shitcrows
>>
>>184159748
no, go back
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>>184159987
that so many deeps man oh man
>>
ctrl-f: Rdeddit ;29 resoults, niche tread, redtards,
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>>184159587
Stop it, Chris, you've done enough damage.
>>
>>184159987
>using namelock skill
retard
>>
poetards can't match my 6 shael phase blade
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>>184159987
>only 8inch of dps, can girls even feel it?
> not having several feet of dps
>>
imagine having never been top 10 of any hc league

imagine thinking your opinion on balance matters to GGG
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>>184160204
>niche tread
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>>184160448
real funny that one of these these is unimaginable desu
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>>184158925
The build doesnt have many chances to pick up damage and more health nodes take a number of points to get to. 11.2% damage per node isnt that bad for the build, and theres even another 12 flat life a the end of it. It is easily dropped to pick up Revenge of the Hunted though, I might save it for the level 92+ points.
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>>184154863
Which nodes on the left? And between Zerker and Slayer which one do you think is safer?
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The game is shit because GGG doesn't play their own game and balances like complete fucking morons. If they wanted build diversity they should realize that nerfing top builds doesn't increase that in the slightest, it only makes people jump down to the next best thing. If you want people to use and consider multiple builds then make other builds more attractive by buffing them and slightly nerfing instead of gutting builds. In fact gutting and nerfing just reduces overall possible builds in the future because hey the build is now garbage!
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>recognizes that GGG frequently overnerfs stuff
>for some reason think that if they were buffing they would be better at math
?

They would just massively overbuff some skill and it becomes the new top dog rendering all other skills fucking useless
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this game is shit because GGG prioritizes profit above all else
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>>184161623
or they could buff all skills and no one would give a shit that the best skill kills 3 times faster if everyone already kills bosses within a nanosecond

instead we only get one skill that can facetank and kill bosses in a nanosecond most leagues and rest are trash mob clearing tier and you'll still get one-shot tier
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DUDE CONSOLE PORT LMAO

is there anything that proves beyond a doubt that a dev only cares about (potential) profit other than porting a PC game to consoletards?
>hur wer gon waste our resources that could be used to please our loyal fanbase who is proven to give us money to instead try and get into some dudebro retard market
>omg ggg ur so nice take my wifes son pls
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>>184162045
t. PT

go back to your dying channel
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>>184162045
Nope. And vice/versa if they port to PC, technically. The exception to this rule, however, is if the game has been dead on Consoles for a long time or the console itself is dead and they're giving people a way to play it at all.
The consolization of PoE is most evident in the new Skills. They claimed Console version wouldn't negatively impact the PC version, but skills have been increasingly using auto-targeting or methods that allow you to easily hit shit while also hitting harder than older Skills.
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>>184162312
PT is not stupid enough to not understand that companies need money to survive
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one thing about PoE I don't understand is why they never introduced an auto-attack function for melee.

not like attack-move in RTS games or defend where you automatically hit in an area or on your way to a location but sticking to a target like

>click boss/mob
>stick to and hit mob until it dies
think MMO style

instead we have to hold down your attack button if you're melee which is fucking annoying because you have to track the monster/boss as well but ranged can just blindly shoot and whatever
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>>184162692
>tfw no auto attack build
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>>184161623
????
People are reaching lvl 100 in 18 hours of gameplay

There is no such thing as "overnerf"

Stuff needs MASSIVE NERFS across the board

The game should be actually difficult, bosses should require you to farm/grind before you do them, not just autoclear to fucking merciless dried lake only equipping stuff you find.
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>>184163654

or you could make it so you can't autism a 100% set of low level maps to 100 instead of ruining hundreds of potential builds by tweaking xp scaling....maybe...
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>>184163654
>People are reaching lvl 100 in 18 hours of gameplay
you mean dedicated players with that goal in mind of hitting level 100, realistically most players will not hit 100 that fast, there's no reason to affect all players based on the LITERALLY top 1% of players because someone else could do it
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>>184163862
Well certainily from level 90 onwards you should be farming tier 15+ maps

Then they introduce dozens of difficult unique tier 15/16 maps
For level 98-100, you should have to farm a couple different super hard tier 17 maps.
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trickster rf 3.0 y/n
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slayer or berserker cyclone

I get similar DPS on both builds but Berserker ends up with more cause that multiplier ascendancy.

Do I get DAMAGE or LEECH and CULL

hard mode: do I go raider and go fast instead?
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>>184164771
I play Slayer Cyclone every league at some point, it flows better for me and is easier to survive while not paying attention. Who needs damage when Ngamahus Flame is so fucking broken?
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New player here. Is there a particular exile/class that's more newb friendly? Or are there any I should stay away from while I start out?
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>>184164970
>nga

I was planning on using hezmanas for all builds cause I think it's a perfect cyclone weapon, especially if slayer, but redpill me on ngamahus if you want
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no actual reason to play trickster over something else but its not like its bad
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>>184165073
duelist necromancer is THE build
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>>184165073
joke response: stay away from all classes and use the uninstall build

srs response: I recommend marauder because niggerdumb builds fit his character, lack of CI, simple flask setup cause life, easiest life nodes, Resolute Technique removes accuracy check, hell if you're really dumb you can add Blood Magic and ignore
>mana, accuracy, crit
also berserker fits most players because it's literally FREE DAMAGE

Templar requires actual thinking for his Ascendacies to build with as does Shadow

Witch is okay cause you just spam spells but if you go CI or not is a real question you'll ask yourself later.

Scion is shit for newbs
Ranger is shit as well cause no life get rekt
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how are you supposed to make a build around dark pact + skellingtons
i dont really get it
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Better for SSF, Frostblade Raider or Ele Buzzsaw?
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Trickster looks amazing for my blight build
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>>184165094
I actually use Hezmanas as my starter weapon until I can afford Ngamahu and Xophs. You can make the argument that its possible to OOM yourself with cyclone, but once you switch to Ngamahu youre only running Blasphemy+HoF, the extra little bit of mana solves any issues you might run into.

Ngamahu does a good job of making up for Cyclones questionable AoE and the fact that it tends to miss a few mobs when you spin through a pack. Molten Orbs take care of any stragglers and instantly blow up anything that spawns after a mob dies like Soul Conduit or Beyond mobs. It also does an actual fuckton of damage and makes your boss kills about 5 times faster even without the neck.
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frost blades is probably gonna be stronger
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>>184165410
I think DP+Skeletons will end up like the Frostbolt+Vortex idea. DP looks exceptional as a self cast skill though, also a good candidate for a totem build assuming it works properly with it.

Skeleton life is just so god damn terrible and youre giving up 150%+ MORE damage just to cast it on those stupid fucks. CwC Skeletons seems like a pretty awful way of doing it too, usually the 3 support gems add damage to the channeling skill and the skill youre triggering, but with this you give up minion life and DP supports just to make the skill not feel like shit to use.
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>the harbinger league features enemies who speak another language, invade your areas, and try to overrun you with their spawn
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d3.0 is making me want to kuduku
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Vaal skellies with minion life and shit
wither totem obviously
self cast dark pact
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I thought about that build already
you're not original
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>>184166352
Since Vaal Skeletons are counted as a separate entity, chances are that they don't count as regular skeletons for the purpose of Dark Pact.
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>>184152262
it keeps fucking telling me to talk to lilly with every quest update, I'm not even in act 5 yet
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if Vaal skellies dont work then its a fucking gay skill
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>>184166971
It only chains twice and it no longer goes up with gem levels, so Vaal Skeletons was already pointless.
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Why couldn't they give Scion an actual Ascendancy instead of this retard fucking shit.

>you can jump and start from another part of the tree!

Which is counter-intuitive if you want those parts because you'd already be fucking branching towards them and it's a huge waste to take the Ascendancy if you just want the jump. It's also not like there's anything worthwhile most of the time to a build worth jumping for besides keystone nodes like some dumb CI Marauder build or Blood Magic with ES.

They should have given her an actual Ascendancy with more options than other classes with generic stats like
>50% AoE radius ascendancy node
>50% increased duration ascendancy node
>-25% mana reserved node
or stuff like that
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Even if Vaal Skeletons worked, its not like they have more life regular skeletons
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3.0 summon is a fucking channel which makes it slow as shit to use and youre losing 2 links if you go cwc summon skellies

vaal summon is instant and gives you a bunch of fodder right away
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>>184167446
spell totem, skeleton
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>230K dps (600K vs bosses) with 7.5K life
>With less than 1ex in gear
Found my build. Just have to pray that ribbit doesn't discover it and get it destroyed.
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>go arc(tendrils for boss I guess)
>4% base crit

so should you just go non-crit and go elemental focus? I mean, it's not like shock and charges are useful anymore in 3.0
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>>184167208
While she may not be the end-all be-all best, Scion can do alright. The extra 2 points when you pick up a New Start node are very nice too.
95 Spec with Alira reward.
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>>184167446
What will you do for the rest of the map then?
>>184167562
Lets not pretend like casting a totem that then has to cast skeletons before you can cast Dark Pact is better than DP Totems or self cast. Skele totem+DP is summoner tier playstyle/clearspeed.
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>>184167562
I considered that, but since its chaos damage youre going to want to have wither totem set up

getting 2 totems going is not only going to be slow but also a pretty significant investment you could probably spend elsewhere
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>be le me grinding in le poe
>suddenly notice spot on le wall
>it's YUGE centipede

Be sure to follow my blog for more crazy stories
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>>184167985
CRAWLING IN MY SKIN setup will be much more efficient.
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>>184167873
run extra copies of vaal summon skeletons :^)
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How in the fuck didn't I figure this out before?
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So this was datamined then removed from poedb, am I late to the party?
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>>184167208
never post here again

your opinion is retarded and you've clearly no idea how end game works
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>>184167208
I've seen making Ascendant a jewel focused ascendancy talked about a lot and that seems pretty neat. If you just got 8-12 jewel sockets to use however you wanted that might be good and would keep her all purpose.
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>>184168183
It doesn't even affect any full clusters, Anon. You feeling alright?
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Every player that can afford to get 50 exalt rings and amulets doesn't have to worry about the power charge nerfs, but the rest of us do
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>>184168926
>he can't afford gg gear
>he doesnt even RMT
>he isn't sitting on 500k FG
you are a shitcrow
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>>184168891
It affects the very powerful dagger/claw notables and claw crit nodes
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>>184168926
Anyone not using biscos is a literal nigger tier player below even raizqt in skill and intellect.
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>>184168104
subscribed
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Is theuberelite; Dare I say: Our closeted transwoman
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>>184168926
Im pretty fine with trading 20% crit for 4% more spell damage. I dont give a flying fuck about power charges being nerfed for attack based builds, I hated feeling like I had to pick them up. Frenzy charges are still fine for casters too, cast speed isnt bad an attack speed is important for movement skills. But now I dont feel like im required to pick them up somehow or my build is gimped. The only losers in this change are 1/2H Crit Mace and Axe builds, which nobody fucking played. Sword/Dagger/Claw builds can still easily get enough crit and Wand builds wont have 90% crit anymore.
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>>184169812
Why? because she's balding?
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>>184162386
>They claimed Console version wouldn't negatively impact the PC version, but [it's impacting it positively]
Never post here again if you don't know how to properly construct an english sentence.
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>>184169812
>closeted
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>>184161103
>The game is shit because GGG doesn't play their own game and balances like complete fucking morons
>to prove my point, let me know show you how I would balance it like an even worse complete fucking moron by buffing everything everytime
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1-4 gladiator sunder
5-9 ed trickster
0 jefe de guerra ancestral
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>Very big and questionable balance change 1 week before official release
>Everyone except shitters and shills are against it
>Chris claims he has hundreds of PoE experts with 10 years of experience helping with balance

How can I compete with all that experience? Why even hold a beta if they think our opinions aren't worth listening to? This change was being pushed through no matter what, they couldn't give a shit about anyone else opinion, just more PR bullshit to get people to quiet down.
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>>184171350
Beta is for fixing bugs

Live is for beta testing balance changes
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>>184171350
I've played since open beta and have many 100s in HC temp leagues. They denied me for not being a "good enough player". The fact is its a circlejerk and shitters like Nugiyen and Mors are literally part of the balance.
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>have excruciatingly long beta that is 95% similar to live, so much so that it is boring to play
>make massive balance changes ONE WEEK TO RELEASE instead of during the 2 month beta
GGG are fucking retards, this shit is indefensible.
>We want you to test the content with obsolete builds!
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>>184171350
Why would they give a shit about the feedback of a community proven time and again to be made of total retards? Let's just hope they don't back up on that necessary change.

>Everyone except shitters and shills are against it
no, you just label all the people who are against it shitters and shills. this happens because you have a low IQ and can't deal with the fact that other people may have different opinions than you
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>>184161102
You are wasting 2 points with bad pathing
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>>184171786
Nugi is not a shitter!
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proof you're retarded:
>playing standard
>believing PoB justifies a good build
>playing softcore
>watching ANY poe streamer
>giving GGG any money outside of stash tabs
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>>184172516
>giving GGG any money
i gave them money when they made good decisions. They haven't gotten a cent since the addition of Forsaken Masters.
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>>184172342
t. Nugi
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>>184167654
You can save a point at the chaos life nodes
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I hope they make that change.
Would make ayyladex amulet a lot better
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>>184172858
I can't see it. Every path alteration is a net change of 0 points. Inform a blind retard?
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>>184173263
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m8s how would a pure physical berserker with 9000 life+MOM and 180k physical dps(ie not fake dps like chaos/elemental) work out?
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>>184173849
Elemental has pen its more "real dps" than phys you stupid nigger
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>>184173982

>boss has 75% resist
>mobs have strong innate elemental resists
>maps can often roll elemental resists to add to that
>half the time a rare mob also gives elemental resist aura

ok mate tx for the laff, wuz good.
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>>184174367
shaper and guardians have 40% res dumbfuck wise oak + pen gem is always more damage than physical.
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>>184174367
>bosses have capped resists
How do people still believe this?
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>>184174367
Go back to r*ddit right fucking now.
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>>184174524

>give up an entire gem slot to go from doing only 60% damage to actually doing 100% damage
>meanwhile I use a brutality gem and go from 100% damage to 159% damage

it's called mathematics son, you can argue with me all you want but you can't argue with the numbers.
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>>184174367
*goes inquisitor*
Heh...nothing personal kid
*deals 1 million REAL dps per second*
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>>184174668
I like how you ignore the retarded amounts of phys added as chaos that its possible to get as a phys build. Not to mention shit like Taste of Hate on top of all of the other elemental bullshit you can get.

Brutality was dead the second the no chaos damage tag was added, it had potential until then.
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>>184174668
This is bait heres your (You)
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>want to start playing this game again
>apparently there's some big patch coming out and starting now would be pointless

This sucks man
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>>184176779
there's still 3 days left of literally the best league so far
i'd say it makes sense to play right fucking now because in a week poe becomes a different game
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Chris' post about GGG devs having level 100 chars sounds like the navy seal pasta
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>>184177497
Yeah, it would be pretty easy to fit that post into it. I dont have the patience though.
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just replied to that dumb normie that keeps sending me 9gag links
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>>184177497
Too funny.
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00-32 BV Pathfinder
34-66 Barrage Assassin
67-99 Animate Weapon
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>>184181584
I am so sorry. I will send my condolences to your Kiwi wife.
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>with 40 dex in radius bladefall has 2 more waves
>limit 2
Would this make bladefall usable?
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>>184182419
>9 volleys of knives
It'd be fun, that's for sure.
However, you'd need to add a minor % More damage per Volley modifier to offset the 6% Less damage per Volley as well.
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>>184177497

>tfw your design decisions are so bad you need to validate that your design team actually plays the game

3.0 is going to be really bad isnt it?
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>>184177109
legacy is a fucking dumpster trash league, 1050 people got level 100
leaguestones are probably the dumbest thing theyve ever added to this game
the last OK league was essence, since then its been an autism shit fest of shit baby does strand in 30 seconds wow look at him go
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>>184183293
t. Shitcrow whose build can't handle double beyond
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Why do people get so upset about shaped strands when sextanted primordial pools and shores are 10x better and more profitable?
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>>184183935
because the sheep haven't realized the problem is sextants causing mob density to googleplex
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>>184165410
The best way would probably be scaling the base chaos damage with dual Apep's Rage, instead of going all in on minion life. Since the spell costs 0 mana, the main downside of Apep's is negated. Even then self-cast dual Apep's Rage would probably be better.
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>>184183293
>1000 people got to level 100
>this effects you at all
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>>184184510
>Since the spell costs 0 mana
Does it? poedb says otherwise.
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>>184165410
You don't. Anyone using it with minions is retarded. It has a 150% MORE modifier on self use in addition to you having a larger health pool than skeletons. Just get leech and vaal pact.
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>>184134101
look for engineering eternity guide on YouTube
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because more streamers run shaped strands than shaped primordial pools
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Haven't rolled an Occultist or PF yet and want to meme it up before next Friday. Should I do a chaos frostbolt occultist or a poison bow PF?
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>>184184812
You're right, it does. I missed that the first time I looked, or it hadn't been updated with that information. So that option isn't as attractive.

I did notice that it's listed as castable by Null's Inclination though, might be one of the few skills that'd make a Null's Inclination build viable, if you can get a 6 blue socketed Null's.

Socket 5 Dark Pacts and a single Summon Skeletons, and go full Wormblaster build. Kill the worms with the bow, summon a skeleton and cast 5 Dark Pacts for each worm killed.
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>>184185671
Dark Pact isn't a minion skill, why would it be enabled by that?
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>>184185912
It's a minion skill that doesn't scale with minion damage. Like how Detonate Dead and Bear Trap are technically spells, but don't have a spell tag because they don't scale with spell damage.
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Berseker
Righteous Fire
Blight CwC Dark Pact
Blight threshold jewels
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>>184186087
I wouldnt expect DP to work with Nulls, I imagine the skill will have a number of restrictions on it.
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>>184186445
Maybe not for long after someone makes a new iteration of wormblaster, but right now it's listed with the tag "castable_by_nulls_inclination" on PoEDB.
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>>184186345
just use Spell Totem - Inc. Duration - Summon Skeleton - Wither

Skel. totem for trash
Wither totem for bosses
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So would dark pact's 152% more damage make it a strong vessel for flat spell damage bonuses, like added chaos or such?
Doesn't look like it. Probably it's better to rather use multipliers on the already high base.
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>>184186597
I completely overlooked that, nevermind. Does Nulls summon minions where you killed at though? Seems like it would be too small of an AoE since Skele DP is reliant on the chaining to cover an area.
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>>184186707
Added chaos already has low values, probably do less damage than a Added Lightning even without literally all chaos damage on the tree
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>>184134919
go and watch engineering eternity's beginners guide
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>>184186087
Wow, so how many iterations is wormblaster going to be on? I would probably do 4 Dark Pacts and a Void Manipulation or 3 Dark Pacts, Void Manipulation, and Controlled Destruction if not running crit though, because 5 Dark Pacts: 5x
4*1.4: 5.6x
3*1.45*1.4: 6.09x.
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>>184187064
You'd probably also want skellies somewhere in there
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>>184186707
Im expecting it to make the cut just because the alternatives aren't that good.
>>184186991
With VM reducing the damage and the fact that you have no penetration for lightning its likely not going to be worth using.
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>>184187207
That's why I only mentioned 5 gems.
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>>184187064
If it works, it'd be the 5th.
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What is the expected meta for 3.0?

From what I've seen of the changes it feels like the best builds will be SRS or Inquisitir crit caster
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How's the enemy variety in this game?
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>>184187485
These are just the tip of the iceberg, and from the looks of it 3.0.0 is going to be a major shift away from the clearspeed meta.
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Getting pretty stoked about DP and the new Split Arrow, new stuff that actually appears like it can clear a tier 10+ map fast-ish.
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>>184187485
Self cast is literal dogshit in 3.0, the meta will be sunder, totems, and RF.
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>>184187485
Bow builds got through the nerfs almost unscathed. Only real difference is life instead of ES and probably 2 6L bows and a kaoms instead of 6L bow+6L chest.
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>>184187573
There will never be a shift away from the "clearspeed meta." In ARPGs clearspeed is literally the most important thing.
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>>184187485
Noncrit Berserker Casters
Raider Ele Attack
RF MoM Scorching Ray
Cyclone Slayer
Sunder Glad
Totems
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>>184187612
Why do you think DP can do T10+ fast? I'm not saying it can't but I haven't seen anything outside of the video GGG showed of it.
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>>184186894
Not sure actually. Worst case scenario you have to self-cast the skeletons, or totem skeletons.
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>>184187710
We have their internal version of the skill and the numbers look pretty damn good. Only problem is getting a proper movement skill going, if you selfcast youll need a staff because of Kaoms, which limiting you to the lesser movement skills.

Maybe Charged Dash will be okay, it does work with staves.
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>>184187217
If echo is not needed, maybe you can pull of Iron Will support, such a build may have low %increased from the tree making it okay, especially if you build it like and RF character.

It got a base crit of 5, right? Too bad the assassin sort of died. Crit scaling with the new power charges would be alright, no reflecting chaos.
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>>184187634
>2 6l bows
why 2?
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>>184187710
You're looking at something like 2000 base damage in a large AoE self-cast at 10K life. That's pretty damn easy to scale.
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>>184188063
Single targ+aoe, bows don't have many skills that are do both.
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owell, I got my build by default. Going Queen of the forest raider. Not sure if bow or ele melee though. Gotta go fast
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>>184187696
RF MoM Scorching Ray
How does this work exactly without running out of mana, do you want tocast the Ray of blood magic?
RF chewing at your mana requiers a lot of mana sustain for your mana to not just get stuck at zero in the first place. Please no blue flasks.
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>>184188024
I actually meant to swap Echo for Faster Casting because I really doubt you need or want to cast twice for a pack. IW should give somewhere between 80%-160% increased damage, so its a certainly an option and will likely replace Empower until I have one at level 3.
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Anyone know if overall the DPS is decreased? Or is this just a shuffle of Tier 1 builds?
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>>184188181
10K life would be 1500 base but that's still a lot.
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>>184188342
How much damage does a level 28 Dark Pact do?
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Casting DP at the speed of sound with Pledge of Hands, killing myself in a microsecond after my skellies die is going to feel just that more orgasmic.
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>>184188270
Inquisitor or Ascendant with Trickster/Inquisitor.

You should probably accept that youll need a blue flask handy if you plan on relying on MoM to reduce your damage. All it takes is a big hit to completely fuck over MoM because it basically removes your ability to kill for a second. Vaal Clarity is also viable, I used it way back in the 2.0 beta and I could keep it up permanently while mapping.
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>>184188063
TS/LA for aoe, barrage for single target.
You can always just gem swap but to minmax it you'd have to swap 2 gems each time.

In 2.6 you could easily get away without the barrage if you used TS but 3.0 boss life buffs will probably change that.

>>184188416
The raw numbers have gone down for most builds. But the boss life buffs are what really hits you if you plan to do guardians/shaper/uber atziri.
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why are shitcrows so dumb and bad buds? gitting gud is easy you just be you'reself
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frog picture = post discarded
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>>184188482
438-657 + 700 from health pool with 216% more damage.
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>>184188490
Just another reason why Skele DP is going to be a joke. Get into a shitty situation that kills your skeletons instantly and youve already cast a couple times before you notice
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Asserker ascendant for leech, charges and base crit.
Big fat chaos crits.
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>>184188506
Reminder that Shaper and Guardian life pools have not been buffed on beta, just T1-15 maps and Atziri.
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>>184188673
That's a big base.
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>>184188972
Was atziri really buffed? I still had no issues instantly phasing her and killing vaals before they went under.
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Shaper mini-bosses and shaper shouldn't even have life pools, they should be a pure test of skill
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>>184188972
why do people cry about this shit.

The hardest and most annoying fights I've seen are Act bosses while trying to get maps. Maps aren't a drag at all and most you can blow through. Bosses at least in the past are all about surviving their 1 shot and the insta killing them.


The only change I would get upset about is harder act bosses or something that made leveling to maps slower.
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>go to poe forums
>check the account of people praising ggg for "shaking up the meta" and praising the nerfs
>they're level 80 shitcrows

Every time.
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>>184188673
Damn, that's pretty good. 1138-1357 with an inherent 216% More..
Let's assume you get a shitty 6L Staff with no Spell Damage mod for calculation's sake and that you have no other sources of Damage except Tree.
>1247 average damage
>175% Increased with no Jewels in damage bonuses on tree
>3429
>216 More
That's almost 11K damage per cast at absolute maximum level with only a maxed out Empower support in a +3 Staff.
Realistically, you'd be closer to 8K not including the Spell Damage roll or Jewels. Still, that's pretty good.
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>>184188828
Yeah, that's why I keep thinking you need to build like your intention is to selfcast it, with regen and/or leech.
And just pull the skeletons out when you want to get real fancy.

Unless there is a trick to chaining it more than 2 times for huge damage I'm missing.
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>>184189115
Actually youre right, Atziri was being reported at one point, but its been changed now.
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>>184189232
I have over 4000 hours and my highest level was 64
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>>184189232
They have to keep it fresh though. Even bad changes are better than no changes.
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>>184189319
Yep, the thing is though if youre building for self cast then bringing out the skeletons provides less damage. You lose your massive more multiplier and skeletons have pitiful healthpools, you give up a lot to not sacrifice health and have the skill chain twice.
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Why can't they make corpse names show up like item names

Does xixixi hate summoners
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>>184189753
Some people already prefers to use Spell Totem with Skeletons instead of Decoy.

Only need to 3-link it with Minion Life Support, in case you absolutely feel like staying far away from something, dealing indirect damage.
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>>184190250
I can see it being useful if you have the gem slots. Wearing Kaoms and using stuff like Wither Totem is going to make it a struggle.
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GGG should add daily quests that reward people who use underused skills. Like:

Complete 10 maps with Dominating Blow. Reward: 20 Chaos Orbs.

You would only be able to receive these quests if your current main skill is in the bottom 30% of popularity in your current league. Switching skills would cause you to instantly abandon the quest.
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Dark pact looks like another nova skill hol up ice nova cold to fire consuming dark x2 occulist wow I win
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>>184190519
im think of making a DB Guardian.
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>>184189960
Hold down the A key.
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>>184190519
>current main skill
And what determines what your "main" skill is?
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>>184190519
Go play runescape 3 instead.
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You'll see me as the #1 hc ssf occultist witch come harbinger league, I'm going to make discharge great again
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>>184191001
4-linked or higher
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Is there a better class for totem builds than Templar? And are totems viable for endgame farming and whatnot?
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Grand total of the changes to assassin and power charges for my 3.0 build

-60% crit, +0.5% crit chance, +3 skill points
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>>184191398
>Is there a better class for totem builds than Templar?
this question is nonsensical and quite frankly, borderline retarded post patch 2.2

kys yourself, summershit
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>>184188270
I made one on beta and IT DOESN'T WORK
If someone says it works it's because they didn't get past the few tiers of maps. With investment in mana on the tree you can sustain (barely) a 4K life RF.
Once you reach 5K life, it's over. Your mana degen too fast and there's nothing you can do except standing on consecrated ground.
But guess what, there's no consecrated ground while you are traveling between packs, so Ok if you're doing shore and strand it's probably not that big of a problem: for any other maps it's a fucking CHORE, and you'll take full damage when you reach a pack with 0 mana and it fucking hurts.

tl;dr: Don't do it.
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>>184191342
And if your main skill is in a 3L?
What if your "main" skill is a support gem?
This concept easily falls apart. And 4L+ means it'd count any skill in your boots/glove/helm as a "main" as well. Including auras, movement skills, utility shit, etc.
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>>184192103
Huh? It's not my fault a big update is releasing for a game I've always wanted to give more of a chance to in the summer
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>>184191454
that's nothing senpai
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>>184189232
I'm Eternal and I like the changes; deal with it
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>>184190519
that'd require them to actually play and balance their game
won't happen
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>>184190549
except it scales with life and youre able to build defenses and damage with the same points.
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>>184193274
>pick Blood Magic with Dark Pact
>literally no downside
>free 35% life
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>>184193809
rather have temporal chains blasphemy than 400 life
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>>184192147
The Scion version with the new Arcane surge works pretty well. I do have to use a Foible though.
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>>184193974
>blasphemy
lol
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>>184193974
>400
I changed my build to be at near max life+Hyrbrid life rolls so this is more realistically 900 life or so.

>>184194029
The new +radius on curse levels makes it playable again, and youre playing a nova build so its basically a melee.
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>When you come up with a crazy build but you don't know if GGG will nerf it before the new league
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GIVE ME BACK MY WHISPERING ICEFU GGG
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>>184194363
I know Chris still reads /poeg/ while on the toilet. We should probably avoid discussing our super secret builds and just shitpost for the next 6 days.
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>>184194501
Agreed.
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>>184160383
>not using the superior 6 zod phase blade
Casual.
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>>184194363
I have a meme build meant for farming just atziri to sell atziri flasks to all the sunderers, and it keeps escaping the nerf hammer but im starting to panic.
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I'm starting to really hate Kaom's Heart, why does the most powerful life armour have such a boring drawback?
I can't word it properly.
It just feels so incredibly meeeeh to not have the sockets. Even if it's in a build that gets away with it.
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it should be 750life not 500
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>>184195518
new
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>>184195309
I honestly disagree. 500 base life is an exceptionally strong bonus that honestly balances out with the no sockets issue.
Hell, Kaom's Roots are great too. The drawback on both have a real impact on your build, but provide great bonuses without outright gimping your build with its drawback. God, what were they thinking with that new Summoner Dex-Helm and Ahn's Might.
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>>184195559

that's what they get with their 1000 hour "experts" :^)
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>>184121021
I should point out that bloodrage was used on coe attack builds back when Coe made pain attunement apply to attacks, because bloodrage gave huge aspeed bonuses whilst on LL.
Not specifically for frenzy generation.
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>>184184812
pretty sure it doesn't cost mana
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Any of you folks know a good way to farm sacrifice at dawn/midnight?
Wanting to grab 3 of normal atziri unique drops, only have 1 copy each of those..
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>>184197309
Vaal Maps and run excess Fragments in the Map Device.
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>>184197489
>Vaal Maps
meaning to use a vaal orb on them right?
Don't think I'm quite there yet.
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>>184198095
Yeah. Vaal orb them.
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>Want to make a build using traps
>Remember i'll have to use Shadow

into the trash it goes
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>>184198095
>>184198417

also do it on maps with 3x bosses like Arena
if you roll double boss you have 6 chances at getting a frag
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>>184199293
oh that's good to know, thanks.
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Does PoB have bleed stack functionality yet? Wouldn't mind testing something out with the new shit stone.
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>>184199909
take whatever the bleed is and multiply it by 200%
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>>184199975
my bad, mean take the hit damage and make it 200%
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Baked has 24 level 100's in standard

now what?
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>>184200901
and they all play the exact fucking same

i seriously want to see what happens when vspark and vfireball aren't as effective, he'll probably finally end his meaningless existence
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I want whatever lotion he's putting on his face
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new thread where
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>>184204119
>>184204119

new
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