/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

$$$ Money pro here, ask me anything.

threadly reminder that /agdg/ thinks your game is a failure and sells modestly if you're under 15k sales

>>183886732
>t. nomoney fag who thinks he's a master memer

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My dream game consists of a Maplestory-like World-pathing system where you get from place to place, in a vanilla/alpha World of Warcraft-esque setting and skill system (think back when they were going to make the game more dark and edgy) with a Starbound/Terraria style deconstructable world that you could decorate, with factions of furry races like WoW's Alliance and Horde, all online.

Where do I start?

Why do you care about other people's financial situations? There are literally people who are rich just because they were born lucky.

That's not a good way to live your meme.

Anyone know what's a good number of Steam wishlists/followers before launch? My game has 600 wishlists + 100 followers atm, releasing in 2 weeks. Would that be enough to recoup the Direct fees for a 10 bucks game?

>>183887036
>600 wishlists
That's maybe 3 buyers

>>183887036
>Pricing your game at $10

You are never going to make it.

That's high-end indie pricing.

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It somewhat works now. A lovely, botched A* algorithm that I think will be better working for this monster type than a well-made one. I like them wandering around instead of going straight to the player.

Bug: The monsters still go through solid tiles sometimes. They used to do more, but I fixed that with a bandaid fix. I'm not entirely sure what's causing it now.

Also, the FPS drops ARE because of some chinks in the code this time, probably because of the bandaid. I'll have to look into it.

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>>183887013
>live your meme.

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>>183886761
I need to sell at least 1750 copies at 5$ each to fund development for 1 year.

Assuming games take about 2-5 years to make, I'll need to sell 3500-8750 copies each game in order to live off of game dev.

>>183887152
>Taking more than a year on a single project

I'm sorry, you were never going to make it, just stick to this as a hobby.

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Threadly reminder that if you deny a fact, it ceases to exist.

Welcome to post-truth /agdg/. Enjoy your stay.

>>183887152
>I need to sell at least 1750 copies at 5$ each to fund development for 1 year.
>Assuming games take about 2-5 years to make
this is all sorts of broken.

>>183887206
Sorry, mobile trash mothers and 8 year olds aren't my target audience.

>>183887013
I don't. I'm just proving people wrong on the internet.

>>183887152
You need to save a little for when you get older through.

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>>183887137
>tfw fatty owned by little princess's screwball trap card

>>183887207
This sadly.

It's fascinating how delusional some people are here.

>>183887253
What's wrong about it?

>>183887262
>implying I'm not just going to kill myself when I become incapable of dev
What's the point of living if you can't do the only thing you love?

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Threadly reminder that if you deny a creep, it ceases to exist.

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Is anybody uses libgdx here? Can somebody give me a example code for how to implement collision to tilemap.

i found this but not really understand anything:

https://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/blob/master/tests/gdx-tests/src/com/badlogic/gdx/tests/superkoalio/SuperKoalio.java

>>183887332
I dunno, see your family grow?

>>183887262
Retirement is a tool used by jews to slave you even further.

The only thing you should invest money in is yourself.

>>183887332
>spending more than one year on a game
>spending 5 years producing a game that can only sell for 5 dollars

>>183887484
>>spending more than one year on a game
Sorry, not everyone wants to produce below mobile shovelware tier meme garbage that nets you $0 on patreon and burns your braincells until you turn into an insufferable namefag cunt.

>There are people IN THIS GENERAL that have spent longer than 3 years on a single project

???????????????

>>183886795
you're missing the point i was making when mentioning the year
these games have been around for a long while and made their way to bundles, which boosted their numbers while not making a whole lot of money, and discounts
there's also the fact that the indie landscape is changing and shifting, hurting the full-price sales even further
since you mentioned the median, here are some articles i found through quick google
http://www.pcgamer.com/median-game-sales-on-steam-are-down-dramatically-steamspy-says/
http://www.develop-online.net/news/average-indie-game-steam-sales-halve-year-on-year/0219745
these articles were written after 2015, so after most of >10k owners /agdg/ games made their debut. to save you the trouble of putting these through the archive, here are some quotes
16th april 2016
>Median indie games sales in April 2015 were 5,400 copies and they dropped to 2,800 in April 2016. But on the other hand the sales for #10 indie game in April 2015 were 104,000 copies and 102,000 in April 2016,” he tweeted. “So the tail become longer as more games get released on Steam, but if your game is one of the top indie titles, you're safe.
if you're the big fish, not much changed, but only like top 5 /agdg/ devs can call themselves that, with only hopoo really being around anymore. you're probably in the tail. the amount of competition you're dealing with increased, having a good game alone won't defend you

>>183887606
oof ow oh ow my gogem

>>183887606
both WtV have SIT have cleared your year of development threshold and both took around 2 months.

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>>183887404

>>183886996
>My dream game consists of a Maplestory-like World-pathing system where you get from place to place
God damn, thanks for making me sad.

>>183887754
Then I should make at least triple of what I expect and enjoy myself significantly more by not making utter trash.

>>183887779
>implying we see the world the same
nodevs dont get to see this world

>>183887616
Name a single game that
1) Is good
2) Has at least 2 hours worth of content (aka you still see new stuff 2 hours into the game)
3) is made in less than 3 years.
Bonus: The game sold over 50k

>>183887876
>then I should make at least triple of what I expect
monolith took 5 years right?

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Threadly reminder if you're not making a game, YOU cease to exist

>>183888186
cool animation but where's the game?

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I recorded how I do ascii art.

Sorry for the shitty quality.

>>183887942
Faster than Light was made in 9 months.

>>183887942
Should probably specify a game made by an indie team or solo.
There are plenty of AAA games that would fit this.

>>183887639
Older games had more time to sell it's natural for them to have more sales. It doesn't waiting some time if it pays off eventually

>>183886732
What % of my portfolio should I allocate to Japanese bonds?

>>183888529
I need my sales now, my rent is coming up next month, not in a year when my sales get good.

>>183887980
Monolith made some pretty big mistakes if their plan was to make money. It's too hard (cramped fast paced bullet hell levels with confusingly chaotic bullet patterns), so only a small niche will be able to enjoy it properly. The resolution is also shit, it looks neat as a retro aesthetic at first but it's like looking through a gameboy screen, you just don't see as much/clearly as you should.

>>183888726
in 5 years any game concept can potentially go from fresh to stale.

>>183889063
>What is Owlboy?

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>tfw after 2.5 years on twitter and constant updates you still have less than 200 followers

h-how does this work?

Googem has lost since he has never tried.

Don't be like googem.

>>183889660
post twitter and we'll answer

>>183887942
Every game by looking glass and arkane

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Back to devving game after dicking around with shitty sprites forever. Much funner than drawing

>>183888597
Should or released a years ago then. You only have yourself to blame

>>183889742
>post twitter and we'll bully

I'm onto you anon.
You can't trick me.

>>183889930
>doesn't want to shill his own twitter
this is why you have less than 200 followers after 2.5 years

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AGDG should be renamed to Salt General lmao, goddamn

>>183888369
>Faster than Light was made in 9 months.
it's also kickstarted.
so it's not fair to compare it with others

>>183889995
shilling among developers is breddy useless though.
Unless you are retweeted by someone like notch you'll never leave the circlejerk.

We should add a rule that every post need to be followed with a pic of your game. That should curb shitposting.

>>183890150
>gaining more followers is breddy useless though
this is why you have less than 200 followers after 2.5 years

>>183890150
>shilling (...) is breddy useless though
this is why you have less than 200 followers after 2.5 years

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holy shit
who comes up with this crap

>>183889819
I wish I had a large company to make my games for me.

>>183890159
Start by posting your game along with that
Oh wait

>>183890260
"endless night" is okay, but "you are not the main character" is indeed stale as shit

>>183890091
How does it being Kickstarted affect the development time?

>>183890215
>>183890216
Well i mean it's not like I haven't tried that.
I'd even say it's one of my biggest problems that I can't find actual communities filled with potential players instead of just people who merely take note of development details.

I have threads in several indiedev forums but how many people really read those?
You got like 10 original posters per thread, over a couple of boards.
Even if every second had a twitter account it wouldn't really help much.

In fact, you'd probably end up with exactly the amount of followers that I currently have.

>>183890345
>"endless night" is okay
>make whatever game, then add a dark blue background with a light yellow circle for the moon
WOOOOW

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>>183888258
Why don't you just draw regularly and then use a ascii art generator

Or is there a legal issue in using them for commercial products?

>>183890624
I think it looks more iconic when it's hand crafted. I can't draw anyway.

>>183890548
Ah, I see that you are a brainlet who can't think of anything beyond surface aesthetics.

>>183890548
you can exploit half of the themes like that

>>183890521
If you aren't going to post your twitter than no one can help you.

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>>183890260
>You are not the main character

>>183889859

What's it gonna be about?

Also please provide trigger warnings for the irregular grid thickness on that fence texture.

>>183887013
>born lucky

Imo, this is a bad way of looking at life. You being born isn't some random act, you are part of a line that existed countless thousands of years before you. If you are born rich, it means your line was very successful for whatever reason.

When you think that you just randomly were born to your parents and that you could have just as easily been born a crab or a flea, you're ignoring that your birth was a deliberate action on the part of your parents. You're just looking at your birth from your perspective, not the perspective of those that gave life to you.

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>>183890926
Can't you formulate an abstract piece of advice that is applicable for a broad spectrum of underrepresented social media outlets?

Or at least make some funny agdg-typical remark so I feel a bit better?

pls

...pls hlp

>>183891346
its a mobile game isn't it

>>183889660
Your game's art is shit, is the most likely cause.

>>183891491
>its a mobile game isn't it

I may come to /agdg/ begging for advice on how to be popular but I'm not that desperate.

>>183891245
???

>>183890707
Fair enough. Your art seems like it can get its message across

I'm very new to webdev but I'm quite okay with programming, I mainly work with c++ and embedded systems. I'm going to have lots of freetime and I want to tinker with some 3d games of sort, would you recommend an engine, a good library or bare metal openGL?

Also, does anyone use Godot for 3d?

>>183891785
Godot's 3D is pretty lame in the current version but it's getting a complete overhaul in 3.0 so that might be worth checking out.

>>183891785
Godot is good if you don't want high end 3D.
Godot 3.0 has better 3D though.

>>183887407
I use libGDX..
Do you use Box2D and Tiled?

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>tfw you'll never make a game half as good as CDF ghost ship

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>>183885373
Niko was already been created.

>>183892541
>there's only space for one cute animal character

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>>183892738
No one is cuter than Niko.

>>183890548
>he doesn't want the night to last forever
smugluna.jpg

>>183887407
did you have a close look a this part. this part is key.

// perform collision detection & response, on each axis, separately
// if the koala is moving right, check the tiles to the right of it's
// right bounding box edge, otherwise check the ones to the left
Rectangle koalaRect = rectPool.obtain();
koalaRect.set(koala.position.x, koala.position.y, Koala.WIDTH, Koala.HEIGHT);
int startX, startY, endX, endY;
if (koala.velocity.x > 0) {
startX = endX = (int)(koala.position.x + Koala.WIDTH + koala.velocity.x);
} else {
startX = endX = (int)(koala.position.x + koala.velocity.x);
}
startY = (int)(koala.position.y);
endY = (int)(koala.position.y + Koala.HEIGHT);
getTiles(startX, startY, endX, endY, tiles);
koalaRect.x += koala.velocity.x;
for (Rectangle tile : tiles) {
if (koalaRect.overlaps(tile)) {
koala.velocity.x = 0;
break;
}
}
koalaRect.x = koala.position.x;

that's for the x movement, you do the same with the y. i'm too tired to explain it to you tonight but key to pixel perfect collision is the for loop, look it up. study it and how it's applied here.

>>183891154
Historical yakuza in sci fi setting (dungeon crawling w/ paper marioesque combat)

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>it's a 2D sprite platformer with a dash mechanic episode

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>>183893320
>it's a 3D model puzzler with a dash mechanic episode

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>>183892979
posting superior cute

When is the next jam?

I'm making a RPG and don't know how to handle turn order
Give me ideas

>>183893864
"speed", "agility" or "dexterity" attribute

>>183893835
we're working out the code for the fair scheduling of dev duels

>>183893970
Any ETA?

>>183894004
we need more devs to sign up for the duels

>>183893864
At the start of the fight play a mini game, the results is turn order for that fight.

>>183890345
>endless night
What a horrible night to have no game

Anyone have experience with Tiled level editor?
Can I use it for my game and then still sell it?

>>183893864
simultaneous action selection
+multiple turn length executions (for telegraphing)
+prediction reliant reversal moves
+move cancellation costs

>>183893864
Copy Devil Survivor.

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>>183892293
box2d? no i'm not that experienced yet and if you mean tiled map editor yes i am using it right now.

>>183893193
i nail it pic related. it still has some problems. thank you.

>>183893835
Mid September, Theme is Armor

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>>183894718

Who decides themes?

>>183894953
Everyone votes

I hope they have a fidget spinner theme!

>>183894953
everyone votes once and one person votes 30 times

>>183887980
Pretty sure it's been stated by the dev many many times that 4 of those years was learning GM:S and all of its quirks and only the last year or so was actually making the game and it's content.

>>183894718
I hope the games are centered on the armor theme and not simply tangentially referencing it

>>183894953
someone makes a poll and everyone here votes, which explains why we get a lot of shitty themes and a lot of shitposting regarding jams

just gonna say that posting on here periodically ive noticed people trying to copy me over and over lol,

some with my artstyle and others with my game direction

its nice to be emulated in a way.

though its kinda takes away the unique qualities my posts had.

so im done posting visual progress on here. i hope for those of you who took ideas from me succeed but i wont be giving you any more fuel


wondering if i should submit for the next demo day

>>183894953
Anyone willing to make a jam page

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw2qEUwFbGM

Reminder

>>183895212
t. doesn't actually have a game

>>183895212

What projects did you do? Show example.

>>183895212
Oh wow! Hideo Kojima is on /agdg/ guys!

>>183895212
sorry lol

>>183895283
>>183895340
>>183895489
Why do you care?

>>183895212
But symphony of the night was such a masterpiece! I'm so sorry!

>>183895540
I guess I was just surprised to discover Kojima wants to be indie now that he's left Konami! Dude is making sure Death Stranding won't be a whodev game

>>183895752
Are you retarded?

>>183895212
is this the thicc jsr niggeravatarfag dude
i don't remember anyone on /agdg/ typing like this
nurotate doesn't reddit space

>>183883729
Cool proportions, bust looks right. Now make Miss no panties do a flip

Just gonna say that posting on here has helped me on my game.

Sometimes with niceposting to help my motivation and sometimes with helpful criticism>

Sometimes I go no (you)s.

But that's okay because just like how I get motivated by seeing progress, I know that my progress posts can help others.

So I will continue to post visual progress on here. I hope we can help each other in making it.


Working hard to get my demo working and I hope to play your demos, too.

>>183895212
Show progress

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>>183895275
Better reminder

https://youtu.be/qPOvePioFF0?t=8m53s

>>183895907
(You)

>>183895212
Most of us wouldn't get anywhere without you whoring yourself out for us. Truly the greater good

>>183895908
No still image of no progress or sky high expectations. In fact, there's no meme image whatsoever so I don't think it's the Mike Ross nodev.

Its likely some nodev shitposter

>>183895212
wiyg

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>>183895540

Because I want to see these magnificent pieces of work that is inspiring everyone! Is that so much to ask? Do I need to beg? Can you not simply post an image so that I can confirm you aren't a whodev?

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>made new twitter for my fan art yesterday
>2 post
>7 followers

>>183895540
I got called out nigga, ball is in fag attack's court now. Time to back up his shitpost

>>183896627
Cool frog, how do I unsubscribe?

>>183894718
Wait what? Wasn't the next theme Mecha? (or was it Tiny?)

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>>183895212
>>183895540
Oh shit, we got a badass over here!

>decide to try ableton's free trial thing
>I'm literally in the cockpit of an alien ship what the fuck is even happening

>>183890260
I can tell I'm not going to be doing LD again.

>>183895212
don't be a pussy post your game or tell us what dev you are so we know what your talking about. if you're going to accuse people of copying then back it up. point to the copying.

>>183896797
Well a mecha is basically a big armor.
Tiny comes after that one if we manage to get it voted at the poll

>>183890260
>Running out of space
>Running out of time
>Limited tools
>Limited visibility
REEEEEE THIS IS NOT CREATIVITY

>>183894718
>>183897137
Do you have any jam pages to back that up?

>>183890260
>Parallel worlds
>Mirror
>Magnetic
>Unconventional movement
Only ones with potential to be honest.

I just imagine the smuggest smirkiest trenchcoat-wearing teenage philosopher whenever I read those LD theme ideas

>flash and paint are dead

F

>>183897737
t. smug smirky fedora-wearing neet

>>183897801
>paint
>dead
they just made it 3D for the VR memes.

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>>183897801
flash is a fantastic tool with many applications. it will never die.

>>183897729
I still think my suggestion "Bouncing Parts" would be way better.

>>183897737
Too much 4chan for you.
In reality it's numales in flannel with glasses and girls with tattoos.

>>183897126
>accuse people of copying

what, these threads are notorious for copyiers

not that theres anything wrong with it. i just dont like the fact that im feuling it for 2-4 people. didnt deserve all these dumb (You)'s but ill save them for a rainy day

>>183896827


you get used to it. watch tutorials

>>183891710
mobile games are good tb2h

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>>183894713
>box2d? no i'm not that experienced yet and if you mean tiled map editor yes i am using it right now.
Well,box2D really helps handling collisions. What I do is create in Tiled a object layer which represents the hitboxes, then I import the objects and create bodies with box2D. Pic related.

>>183897801
>flash player is going to be forced out of browsers by 2020
>html6 comes out
<flash>

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>>183898214

>>183898214
we haven't had any notable straight rip-offs since tender arms bootleg which was almost a year ago
substantiate your claims or fuck off already

>>183898240
yeah I'm not complaining, it's definitely what I was looking for.
Now I'm looking at max too, oh fuck it's fantastic. I think the ableton/max thing together though is extremely pricey. I played with PureData way back when so even though I'm very impressed with max, I'd have a hard time justifying the price.
Looks fun as hell though.

>>183898106
Wrong. Even Adobe was one of the first with a HTML5 editor iirc.

>>183895212
>>183898214
I wonder what kind of mental state you must be in to come here and shitpost all day and do literally everything anything to get (You)s including this really bad bait.

You're getting (You)s so people can kick dirt on you for being a sadfag with bad bait. And you're savoring it.

>>183898214
There is no game here creatively fueling 2-4 people. You are full of shit.

>>183895212
People are still going to copy you, anon. Unless you delete your dev social media, and never release your game or show it to anybody.

>>183898106
>it will never die.
except when the company that owns it decides to phase it out

>>183895212
Literally everything has been done before. There is bound to be some cross over or similarity.

>>183898670
itl come, i just have to save it for a timely manner before release

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>>183898214
post your game. people want to know what you're talking about and if you think their work is copying. here's who I am. now you.

Man, there really is no reason to be here. Everytime I catch up with a thread I'm reminded that I'm missing nothing.

>>183898713
where would undertale be without its aesthetic artstyle? its nothing fancy, but it has a certain charm thats fading away from some other devs now trying to emulate it

>>183898879
undertale's fame comes from literally every aspect other than its artstyle

>>183898879
It will always happen when a game makes something new or interesting and succed
Think about how many gory fighting games we got after mortal kombat, some of them even got to the point of use digitized graphics too.
Think about how many voxel based games we got after minecraft.

>>183890091
It was essentially finished ehen it kickstarted.

>>183898830
>quality control
what are you expecting from /agdg/?

Reminder that if you believe your ability to dev is somehow hampered by the state of /agdg/ relative to your own standards, then you were a failure a long time before you came here.

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>tfw no one has give you a dev name yet

>>183898830
So you decide to shitpost instead of posting progress?
You must be a great gamedev

>>183899418
nodev

>>183891346
Good art, juicy gameplay mp4s.
If your twitter doesn't have these you're fucked.

>>183898879
>where would undertale be without its aesthetic artstyle
In exactly the same place, since the graphics suck.

>>183899192
>>183899436
If you want to believe I'm a nodev to disregard a fairly innocuous opinion go ahead. Dainty little faggot.

>>183899678
why are you still here

Reminder that when you defend AGDG you defend the scum that inhabits it such as Gogem

>>183899843
>To upset you. Your thread is shit. You are shit. React.
why do I imagine le intense anime opaque glasses with folded hands covering mouth face

>>183899678
>>183899843
Holy shit dude, you're so cool. How do I become as cool as you?

>>183898106
the latest version of flash exports to html5

Reminder that showering will make you feel better.

>>183900836
only online flash player's may die then. flash on the other hand still alive for vector design, art, animation, media composition, game development ect.

>>183900901
a-are you watching me?
I just got out of the shower

>>183899418
wanting a dev name and calling yourself ___dev is a road to failure

>>183899843
one of the edgier shitposts to grace /agdg/ in the newest times

>>183899418
Getting a dev name would be nice and comfy but I'm wondering if it'd be nicer if people remembered your name like Arikado or Theonian.

>>183901763
React.

>>183901830
the source vibes are getting stronger
next you're going to tell us to dance like monkeys, right

>>183901803
arikado is a shitter who started ghosting his collaborators and killed clarent

>>183891346
POST YOUR FUCKING TWITTER ACCOUNT YOU GODDAMN BABY

YOU EITHER EVOLVE IN OUR FIRE OR YOU MELT INTO A GOGEM, ACCEPT YOUR FATE

>>183895212

The day knight dev doomed his game.

>open Paint
>make a (You) sprite for repeatable tiling
>insert into apporopriate folder
>open up RPG Maker MV
>make a dungeon of of (You)s

I think I'm finally gonna make it, guys

@183902393
>no pic
you ain't stealing my valuable (You)s

>>183901420
I just want to feel part of the community ;_;

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i bring the goods
happy "gamedev"

>>183902928
(You) won this time...

>>183886616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzogY5JAkzw

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>Mfw OOP cucks think that just because the biggest companies use it means that it must be good in some way
>Mfw OOP cucks think that just because the smartest people use it means that it must be good in some way
>Mfw OOP cucks think that just because almost every single programmer in the world switched to it from other paradigms when it came means that it was in any way better
>Mfw OOP cucks think that any games are actually made using OOP

I don't get why we even let OOP cucks like Unity and UE4 devs into these generals, don't they know no games are done in those engines because they are OOP?

>Inb4 some Unity cuck doesn't understand that its infact OOP

>>183901905
>triggered
Does it upset you that you can't not react?

>>183903087
React.

>>183903079
yes we know

>>183901905
>>183902056
>>183902121
samefag

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Why does the lighting not affect my weapon in UE4?

>ignore shitty texturing

>mfw someone actually spent time posting about OOP instead of just making a game in non-OOP
Why are nodevs allowed here?

>>183903276
[reaction mode engaged]

>>183903086
Not a subtle falseflag but also you shouldn't be butthurt by anti-OOP shitposters enough to falseflag them anyway.

Therefore I deduce this is a double false flag and you are actually parodying yourself. You sick fuck.

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>>183903276
>>183903086
>Mfw some OOP cuck got so triggered he posted about that people shouldn't post but make progress

Oh sweetie

>>183903086
Unity is ECS

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>>183903647
>OOP cuck doesn't even understand what ECS is

See >>183903086 . I predicted it.

>Hurr i have no proof but trust me its ECS i mean it uses objects with associated methods and the engine is OOP but still

Sweetie its time you let the real programmers talk alright?

>>183903647
composition is an OOP technique you dunce

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>>183903647
https://unity3d.com/learn/tutorials/topics/scripting/inheritance

Oh sweetie

Why this general is always so filled with shitposters?

>>183903086
>cucks
>>183903627
>cuck
>sweetie
>>183903834
>cuck
>>183904015
>sweetie

lol what a loser.

>>183904130
because /vg/ has no mods
because discord likes to arrange raids
because narcissistic personality disorder people are attracted to the "prestige" and "money" of gamesdev

>>183903915
ECS is not OOP

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>>183904194
It must really suck having to react every time you are triggered huh sweetie cuck?

>>183904130
One caffeinated frustrated nodev can seem like an army of shitposters.

>>183903086
What the fuck did you just say to me you fucking little nodev son of a bitch whore nodev cuck?

I'll have you know I graduated from MIT with a MASTER's degree in visual basic hacking and I have spent the past 35 years coming up with sophisticated algorithms, so advanced that if used in the right context they could literally obliterate world hunger and cure cancer(except you)

I can write games in 6000 different ways using ANY program language, using ONE hand only on a das keyboard ultimate and it would only take me half a day to produce a selling title, bugfree.

You should be very careful with how you approach strangers in the interweb, anon. Anonymity is only a facade and with a few clicks I'm able to see right through it, only to moments later, re-route all your web requests to midget porn sites. Now that would't look so good on a JOB COMPUTER, NOW WOULD IT?

>>183904262
entities are objects
composition is OOP
ECS is composed objects

>>183904402
ECS is not OOP

>>183903079
>SIT is gone on Steam
>Restricted-RPS is gone on steam

AHAHAHA

>>183904130
I suspect that the majority of them are actually a single shitposter who is even more autistic than googs.
However, I have no evidence for this. It just seems likely.

>>183904261
>because narcissistic personality disorder people
Difficult to indulge without a name, and anyone hungry enough for (You)s to spend all their time here shitposting just for attention is not a narcissist they're just mentally ill and lonely. But most of the time it's a frustrated nodev, sometimes a regular who has been stuck here for years and still has no game(s).

>tfw using Godotoop

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>>183904335
>could literally obliterate world hunger and cure cancer(except you)

>>183904325
lol. . . what. . . a. . . loser.

>>183904548
>godoop

>>183904512
depressiondevs are the worst.
wish they'd quit trying to self-cure with their hobby and shitposting and go sort that shit out.
the tortured genius is a played out trope.

>>183903079
AAAAH, Googum's famous now!

>>183904826
>depressiondevs
Tired of you using that word, it's not a thing. People who are depressed don't dev. The only reason you could shit out your clickable GIFs is because of medication anyway, hypocrite.

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>>183904826
is this the most ironic post ever to be made on agdg?

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>>183904328
Please, anon. I'm caffeinated as hell, and even I am not acting like a complete mongoloid.

Probably because I'm working on something instead of wasting oxygen

>>183904261
>because /vg/ has no mods
Either way most generals I've been in /vg/ are pretty chill. I don't understand why this one is so bad most of the time.

>>183904482
>I suspect that the majority of them are actually a single shitposter who is even more autistic than googs.
Yeah, I've been noticing patters on certain shitposts, wouldn't surprise me that is one guy.

>>183904908
This is really going to help his sales on ste-

oh

>>183904948
If you're making progress the best thing to do is not give a shit about agdg or the state of agdg. Agdg is anti-progress.

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>>183905127
I'm disappointed that this SidAlpha dude is giving Googum what he wants though. This is sad.

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>>183905095
>Either way most generals I've been in /vg/ are pretty chill

>>183905296
I've learned to be okay with gogem getting attention, because it's never going to translate to money and he's never going to have the victory dance in here he wants to. This means we can always reliably piss on him, like dogs who piss on a lamp post. It's good for the community.

>>183905127
get used to saying itchio

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It's something at least. Feels pretty bad knowing I spent a week trying to do this.

>RRPS is finally gonna get removed from my library
neat

>>183905598
*raises leg on you*
ahhhhh
That's the stuff

>>183905747
nah, they never remove games from people's libraries, it's just permanently hidden on the store

>>183905747
explain how did it get there in the first place

>>183905549
But he doesn't want the money, Anon, just the attention. He's a troll. I mean even when we're not taking his bait we're talking about every time he shits the bed.

>>183905549
The only thing he wants more than money is attention.
While I certainly enjoy seeing what's left of his reputation get dragged through the mud, I'm positive that, on some level, he enjoys it.

Holy fuck gogem slow down with the tweets
https://twitter.com/googumproduce/with_replies

Are you on meth right now? lmao

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>>183905848
Goog posted codes here a couple times. At the time I used anonymize everyone.

>>183905747
the option to remove things from your*** library was there the whole time.
*** "your" does not denote ownership

>>183905848
>such a newfag that he's never seen people get catfished by RRPS keys

>>183906067
>digital-only """dev""'" crying about digital downloads, but only when Valve does them
How low can you go?

Can you guys please shut up about googum? No one cares anymore

>>183905848
Gumgo loves to post RRPS keys and pretend it's keys for a much better game.
I don't think a single person ever legitimately bought that game.

>>183904482
3-4 I reckon. Somehow I doubt one person is able to do vary their quality of shitpost so much. I am seeing patterns however

>>183905970
Whatever game he is working on sounds extremely dull. Gogem does it again.

>>183906281
But Imma making Gogem simulator Pro edition

Don't thinking face me you goddamn cunt.

>>183906314
made enough to fund a narrator and pay []J enough to demotivate him

>>183906598
>googum is making a walking simulator

>>183883729
Tits look right now. Animation is janky though

>>183905906
No, I understand. What he really wants is the piss. The warm urine.

>>183906598
>made enough to
shut
up
stop

just

stop

>>183906756
This is starting to sound like a fetish, anon.

>>183906598
So you're admitting to paying a programmer now after already arguing with agdg like 2 days ago that you don't hire coders.
Finally you can stop pretending. You are slowly becoming a 100% honest sholveware dev, it's a painful process but we're getting there. Your pretentions and stubborn lies are slowly withering away.

So,

Static linking or dynamic linking?

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Why is porndevs the richest of all devs ?

>>183907123
Virgins don't have to throw their money at a significant other so they have money to throw at pretend significant others instead.

>>183907123
People like jerking off.

If someone has a good informational resource for reliably optimizing coding specifically as it applies to gaming, I'd be grateful.

>>183905651
Don't feel bad, anon! Progress is progress. That's looking like something neat already so keep it up!

tell me more about your game

>>183907431
This can help you
http://gameprogrammingpatterns.com/

>>183905651
engine?

gimme a cool 2d platformer mechanic that isn't dashing

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I want to write a roguelike, something like ADOM, in common lisp. Which implementation should I use?

>>183907973
hookshot

>>183907431
What language? Just as general advice you should look into data structures like quadtrees, bounding volume hierarchies and other tree structures for accelerating stuff like collision detection or other kinds of spatially hashed queries. For physics there's a good book called Morgan Kaufmann: Real Time Collision Detection.

Avoid string vs string comparisons, use enums or numerical IDs wherever possible. Use maps (binary trees) when you have a large number of objects to search.

>>183907916
Thanks, I'll check that out

>>183908253
Language is python, and thanks! You've given me a lot to google.

>>183908447
python is slow as fuck man, optimizing python is like trying to put water back into a leaking bucket

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>>183908447
The best optimization you could do is not using python.

>>183907863
>>183907947
Wanted to try making a basic top down shooter for practice. Using Godot because it seemed like babies first engine. End goal is to have a character moving that shoots bullets toward mouse. A basic enemy with pathfinding. A end screen that restarts the game. And maybe a pause menu.

>>183908541
>that much slower than even java

jesus christ

>>183907061
[]J explained this to you already, he got paid as co-dev not a hire.
the narrator voice actor was a hire.
difference is that hires are promised money and get it from work.
as co-dev []J got paid like me, from the very meager profits.

>>183907123
women substitutes

>>183908668
>yeah I paid him but but but
Shut the fuck up trick ass ho

Who is this []J person that gogem has been blaming RRPS on lately? Literally never heard of him and I've been watching the gogem trainwreck for like 2 years.

>>183908656
Memes aside, Java has actually got much faster than what it was.

>>183908668
Are you gonna try out for the Olympic team for mental gymnastics?

>>183906598
>>183908668
Can you show us where this "J" is credited in RRPS or are you just yet again trying to deny that someone was paid to make your game for you?
Either way, someone else made your game for you and you won't admit it - but did you credit him?

>>183909115
everything that's ever gone wrong with RRPS is the fault of []J (homph)
you know him, he's the one who keeps posting rats in in orange jumpsuits and retarded jaggy chickens

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Well the idea was a lot better than the execution..

How do I stay a social person but politely ignore friends why they want to waste their time talking about tv shows, movies, and other non-productive things?

>>183909403
>It's not my fault the game I designed is bad and has no community

hate this dudes voice but anyway, extra credits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c06uoVVFZd4

>>183909528
Get better friends

>>183909441
Are you sheepolution ?

>>183909403
I just find it weird how we never heard of someone else programming your games for you and now you act like "[]J" was literally alongside you all along.

You're an idiot.

>>183909595
Fuck you, delete this gay ass shit.

>>183908519
>>183908541

I was aware of this. Yeah, python isn't great for large projects. I'm probably going to end up porting everything over to C++, but I want to have all my data structures and program flow set in stone before that. I haven't done any programming for a few years, getting back into the pool by dipping my toes into the shallow-end that is python hasn't been bad for me either.

Also I'd like to have an example of what the final product will look like if I decide to try to get people to invest in it/work on it with me.

>>183905651
That's the point of gamedev, you're learning, it won't take you a week next time you have to do something similar to this. Good job anon.

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>>183909371
>>183909662
but he was, literally day 1.

>>183909115
>>183909371
>>183909662
it's not just []j gogem hired another coder to make whip the vote

he just conveniently acts like []j was his only hired programmer.
he thinks he's crafty.

what is your budget?
how much are you hoping to make?

>>183909595
KYS

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>>183909651
Maybe
Yes

>>183909441
i wonder who could be behind this ASCII art...

>>183909894
0
0, I do it for fun and learning.

>>183909635
Normies make shit friends.

>>183909864
Good, at least you credited that person for making your game. And what about the whipe the scrote coder you hired? Is he credited?

>>183909986
>0

lol more like your time, time you could've used to get laid

>>183909894
$0
$1

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rate the style and quality of this sprite and animation pls

I'm thinking about using it for my next RPG game.

>>183909934
Thanks for your love2d tutorial dude, it helped me quite a lot.

>>183910036
yeah i credit myself like 4 times in whip the vote.

>>183910117
gimme your paypal I'll give you $1CAD right now

>>183910181
Oh, so you're still lying.

>>183910161
You're welcome. Can you make cool stuff yet?

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>>183907123
>not posting Fenoxo
Poor attempt.

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Trying to merge all of my map's textures into a single atlas (see left) so that I do less texture binding at rendering time. Haven't adjusted the texture coordinates yet, which is why the map looks off.

It would be nice if I could also merge lightmaps, but their final sizes may be too large to store in a single texture. It would be a nice win though, since then I could draw the map in a single call.

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>>183910151
in-game it'll look more like this

>>183910062
But I already have a gf

>>183909528
>disliking kino
>being productive 100% of the time

yeah nah

get a group of friends you can meet with atleast twice a month

trick some girl into giving you pussy and give her almost no free time

im assuming you have a shitty job you have to go back to like the rest of us.

dont make friends there

those faggots will likely waste your time and bore the shit out of you trying to "get drunk" whatever the fuck else they like to do with their shitty time

enjoy yourself and just like make game faggot

>call yourself 1MA
>make it your main schtick
>hire coders on the downlow and never mention it
Just don't.

>>183910151
L-Lewd

>>183910151
Looks decent.

>>183909894
$0
$1000-2000

>>183910319
It looks pretty good and is usable. Maybe move the elbow on his spear arm and fix up the outline by his neck. The hair that moves looks pretty strange as the rest the hair doesn't.

>>183910239
Working on it every day all day.

>>183909864
Fake 1MA
Really Fake 1MA

https://liliputing.com/2017/07/adobe-will-finally-kill-flash-2020.html

FINALLY

also fuck the newgrounds nostalgia fags

>>183909894
$0
$10 000

>>183910231
no evidence?
wheres the screenshot of hundreds of unrelated posts pointing to a vast coder hiring conspiracy?

>>183910757
Whatever you say fake 1MA

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>>183909894
0 Euros
We'll see

Okay, all the chapters past the "state stack" in the "SFML game development" book are just shit and lack context, leaving much to be wondered about how the fuck did this guy implement it.

I seriously consider just ditching this book and just like, make a shit game.

>>183910757
2MA
:^)

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>spent half the year getting decent at programming
>realize I actually need assets
>tfw grinding drawing so I can get better at anatomy so I can get better at 3D so I can actually make decent assets

Sisyphus is real and he's a gamedev.

Thank god I can compose decently and know someone who could compose good stuff.